Media Promotes Laughable Defense of AOC

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The media touts the idea that Democrat lawmaker Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez knows more about Democracy than Republicans. Ben Shapiro explains why that is ridiculous.
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[@MyFaithfulSword]

The Daily Wire Ben. What do you say when people say that trump is making lots of money off the presidency by taking golf days at his own resorts? Can you explain it to me please

[@rfishrfish4242]

A TRUMP WIN IN 2O2O IS A WIN FOR ALL OF US,A

[@BigTravUSA]

Love that Christopher Hitchens quote. "Facts don't care about your feelings".

[@chrisj9700]

Hi Ben. You didn’t address AOC’s point that votes are wasted under the electoral college thanks to the winner takes all system. As you’re a Californian, wouldn’t you agree your vote would be more valuable if electoral college votes were distributed proportionately like in Maine and Nebraska?

[@kjfrank4253]

Isn't this the guy who thinks the civil war was a national apology for slavery?

[@Notsram77]

Suddenly, I'm very much in favor of giving California back to Mexico.

[@thewhitematstudio]

If socialism happens in lifetime I’m definitely headed to Mexico

[@tylerneill6884]

Yea, but isnt Shapiro there?

[@destroygaryfunky7053]

@@thewhitematstudio As an American now living almost ten years abroad,....the only thing I really miss about the states is really good pizza ,.........I wish I felt different,........

[@HighDefinitionVideo]

No, let’s take California back from the leftist

[@juniorgod321]

what have the Mexicans ever done to you?

[@thewhitematstudio]

She doesn’t understand socialism much less Democracy

[@davidmeloche3563]

You could have stopped at "she doesn't understand"...

[@TheCasualSubculturist]

Jon Snow knows more than her...and he knows nothing.

[@Matthew_Klepadlo]

The White Mat Studio She fell asleep during history class.

[@kjeldlarsen912]

She don't understand ANYTHING

[@owlblocksdavid4955]

Democracy is where the people hold the power in government. It's that simple. We *are* a democracy. We aren't a pure democracy. We aren't meant to be the most democratic. But we are a democracy.

[@rockinrobby19]

True Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what’s for dinner.

[@TheJgraves21]

Benjamin Franklin?

[@christiansimmons7354]

@@TheJgraves21 it's been credited to him, but I believe that's a misconception

[@TheJgraves21]

@@christiansimmons7354 Good to know thanks

[@williamdavis3819]

As the silent majority we could vote CA and NY are exempt from voting😎

[@chrisj9700]

America is a representative democracy because it elects representatives to govern on their behalf. Democracy and republicanism work together

[@JazI62733]

I wonder if AOC thought at first the electoral college was an actual college with a campus 🤣

[@MrAzboGaming]

American Patriot she still does

[@MrAzboGaming]

American Patriot she thinks it’s a group of old white guys sitting around in a room smoking cigars deciding how they can make people more racist.

[@denniskarnes8680]

You know she did.

[@coypu2005]

American Patriot She should quit her job and go back to eating corn through a fence 🌽 🌽

[@voodootrucker1896]

🧟AOC also says that the Capital of California is "C"...

[@justinm2697]

And wonders at the common toaster.....the bread goes in, a few minutes later toast pops out......but where does the bread go?

[@jerrymarasco8878]

Justin M lol

[@sterlingarcher8441]

I have a excuse for her .. she was dropped on her head as a child.. often...

[@SkylanderDragon]

You know to much.

[@sterlingarcher857]

would explain the ugliness too. nice name btw

[@realname2158]

.......on purpose too......

[@Loganva]

She's not ugly, her non-uglyness is the only thing she's got going for her lol

[@wizzenberry]

Nah man, just low iq

[@selectiveeye4370]

Replace 'democracy' with 'aristocracy' and things become very clear. The entire idea of a democracy isn't an idea. It's an in-your-face dupe

[@davidgalloway5598]

AOC, should focus on the feelings of the people who are in her District, because she has a very low popularity among her constituents. I'm feeling pretty sure that AOC will not be reelected to Congress.

[@tstewart5038]

Yay!!!

[@johnnierichardson1771]

David Galloway I’m praying for this and that she’ll disappear.

[@tstewart5038]

@Vincent Cuttolo AOC has a 21% favorability rating, just 11% believe she has their best interest in mind, 13% would vote to re-elect her. 51% have an unfavorable view of her, 33% are ready to vote against her. She's toast.

[@Foxtucky]

Good luck with your future career AOC I'll have a vanilla latte with no whip please

[@tstewart5038]

Would you really trust her to prepare food/drink for you?

[@Foxtucky]

@The eyes of Argus You watch a little too much CNN look at her polling stats then come talk to me. And it doesn't take a genius to see the Democrats are destroying this country there whole party is in shambles they are all fighting each other it's one of the best things to watch on t.v Dems eating the own

[@dylanmoncus3230]

If progressives were really serious about a popular vote, then why aren't top Democratic Candidates campaigning in California or New York? There is clearly no substance in the argument if action cannot be followed. I love it how we are now discussing this subject as we are nearing a presidential election - good luck.

[@seefore5409]

Trade California to Mexico for the border wall. Win win.

[@Jediwhoever1]

Kakarot we could trade it for Greenland

[@Jediwhoever1]

Kakarot we could trade it for Greenland

[@BRBallin1]

Hell no. California is extremely valuable. SF Bay Area and LA are powerhouses.

[@pennypay1]

And there are SOME relatively sane people who live here. We were involuntary transplants at a young age, so we put down career and marriage roots of our own here. We don't get involved in the New Age woo, the emulating of superficial celebrities, or the shrill P.C. language or chaotic women's marches. Some of us are social conservatives.

[@Jediwhoever1]

pennypay1 do you realize that was a joke

[@ironwarmonger]

I though AOC did suggest getting rid of the Senate?

[@justinm2697]

I'm not so sure about that. She was asking for a pay increase.

[@ryanseward2760]

I love how the founding fathers wrote the Constitution over 200 years ago and they are still smarter than most of the people in the government and with much better foresight with very little information directly available to them.

[@christophermckeon9030]

The actual reality of the electoral college is not that it protects the minority from majority oppression, but that in the USA system it is the STATES that elect the president, NOT the people. We have 50 sovereign states and each one casts a vote (# of votes based on population) for president. That is the proper representative way to elect a national executive. Popular vote would be literally a tyranny of a minority of STATES while at the same time a tyranny of a majority of PEOPLE. Both the founders sought to avoid.

[@rubberchickenwings769]

She would always screw up my order at the bar too....

[@brianschwatka3655]

One of the numerous bad things to come out of 1913 was the 17th Amendment. One of the best descriptions of what our founders created with the Constitution was a contract. That contract was with three groups. The People, the Federal Government and the States. The House is the people's representative to the Federal Government. The Senate was the State's representative. When the Senate went to direct election the State's part of the contract was thrown out.

[@dancingkitty11]

PLEASE DON'T GIVE HER IDEAS!!!

[@BRockIITWi]

Crenshaw supports red flag laws. Lost all respect for him

[@Menaceblue3]

You would've thought Big Boss would be against it, but nope...

[@johnstreet7656]

Ben makes the point I ALWAYS bring up about the moral equivalence of the Electoral College and the US Senate. This should be brought up LOUDLY every time the EC question comes up.

[@stephenjanusas2587]

Finally someone said it!! We live in a republic!

[@hmsdemolition8588]

I STIIL SAY THAT MY PET ROCK IS SMARTER THAN OCCASIONAL COTEX

[@MichaelGordonFinance]

It is sad that anyone takes AOC seriously.

[@aaronpangallo3340]

Benjamin Franklin said that Democracy is liken to two wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for dinner.

[@BigTravUSA]

Love that Christopher Hitchens quote. "Facts don't care about your feelings".

[@Ngaemond]

Getting rid of the electoral college means we should also get rid of the Senate. Lately I have noticed that critics of the electoral college are beginning to acknowledge this and say "yup, we should".

[@jamesharazda5027]

That's the wrong kind of helmet for AOC in the thumbnail.

[@larryrich327]

Dang Ben I love you man I can have the crappiest day and two minutes of listening to you and I'm all smiles , I'm so glad you're on our side 🇺🇸🇮🇱

[@eytang8543]

Ben is a boss and his wife is a doctor

[@trevermarco9206]

How do you know his wife is a doctor

[@trevermarco9206]

Wait never mind I just watched a second video and he mentioned it

[@trevermarco9206]

And again in the third video I watch from him

[@oldtimergaming9514]

@@trevermarco9206 Really, I have watch about 100 of his videos and I have never seen...wait, no, there it is.

[@Cx10110100]

No Taxation without representation!

[@user-pg9fv7su8q]

God bless you Ben, and God bless America. We need God as a nation more and more as time goes on.

[@NYvermin]

I hate that I still have to wait another year till her term ends for me to vote her tf out.

[@theallseeingmaster]

James Madison is spinning in his grave from the power of AOC's massive intellect.

[@TiesOfZip]

I couldn't care less how much she "understands democracy"... we're not a democracy. We are a constitutional representative republic. Theres a reason for that, and the founding fathers hit the nail on the head.

[@kamieaston3016]

I used to think the US was a Democracy, when I was nine...

[@joewarren9945]

She thinks that Socialism is a caring and inclusive ideology. Russia China Venezuela Cuba North Korea Very Inclusive and caring

[@sleddingman1447]

The only good use for the NYT is to line a bird cage.

[@igorcossack8117]

Pure democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.

[@strawman9246]

Don't tempt her. She will want to get rid of anything that doesn't agree with her and play the victim while she does it.

[@ultrapurple111]

Promoting AOC??? The Rotten Tomatoes of the political sphere.

[@wattatank9418]

If she truly believed what she says. She would forfeit at least 40% of her paycheck and give it back to the government.

[@jennakhivkapratt8751]

Neal Boortz describes democracy as mob rule and a lynch mob. Further, he gives the example: 49 people want to tie Bob to a tree; Bob doesn't want to be tied to a tree. In a democracy Bob gets tied to a tree.

[@grifballa]

Why stop at the electoral college? Let's get rid of the Senate too. There are nearly 80 times as many senators per person in Wyoming than in California.

[@grifballa]

Welp, I just got to the part where Ben just said exactly that...

[@jamesharback1760]

Maybe we should also go back to the original concept of Senators not beimg directly elected by each state's population.

[@pctotty]

Direct election of Senate was one of the worst things that was ever imposed upon the people.

[@jxxnrxxi2160]

MABA (Make Alexandria Bartender Again)

[@austin3789]

Ever since the 17th Amendment the senate makes less sense.

[@whatisantilogic138]

The fact that a heart surgeon and a homeless person both have an equal vote is already foolish.

[@mlt3258]

HELL YES BEN!!!!!

[@nicholasgerard8810]

Then run for president please Ben in four years after the wall gets finished!

[@rev.jonathanwint6038]

he did not Miss it he Ignored it..

[@billiondollardan]

I've read zero federalist papers

[@hmgsai5]

She doesn’t even know how to use a garbage disposal. What makes anybody think she knows anything about politics!😂😂

[@rileyhebert2189]

Guinness world records largest conservative podcast... can this be a thing

[@jonnygianni]

This is why we shouldn't be reading opinion pieces

[@peggyford3801]

We need the electoral college

[@natelarson1273]

we should have a national popular vote at the state level too, and on every bill passed, and while we are at it, get rid of the court system, lets just make that popular vote.

[@madcelt1792]

Does he moonlight as an auctioneer?

[@pizzafrenzyman]

We can always trade California for Greenland.

[@jeffragar3493]

Not even Denmark is dumb enough to take that deal.

[@texasscout3744]

The plan was to write 65 essays, the work divided even among the three men In the end they wrote 85 essays over then span of 6 months.

[@jameskelley9737]

I can hear my mom now. "If everyone in California jumped off a bridge does that mean you would too?"

[@brianeromenok4501]

Can someone ask AOC if she knows what bicameral legislation is.... she will probably confuse it with a sticky sweet treat

[@laurahuston2187]

Facts don't care about feelings.

[@ClumsyVash]

Lol I love when ben stays on stuff like this and away from war

[@richardunderwood9232]

45% of the population shouldn't be allowed to boss around 55% of the population.

[@js1642]

The Founding Fathers warned about the "tyranny of the majority" and built into the Constitution safeguards against it, notably the Bill of Rights, the electoral college, the Supreme Court (members chosen by the President and confirmed by the Senate), and a bicameral legislature. Keep in mind, the Senate was originally chosen by the state legislatures. It wasn't until 1912 and the passage of the 17th amendment which allowed for popular election of Senators.

[@erikstrohl286]

AOC logic....... Why go across the street when you can go across the hall.

[@forestmcneir3325]

The Senate used to represent the governments of the states. Senators were elected by state legislatures. The House was the House of the People. Senate was the House of the States, giving state governments a check against federal government power as well as preventing more populous states from running roughshod over states with lower population. Direct election of senators was a terrible idea. It diminished the power of the states to check overarching power of the federal government.

[@pieshka4509]

We need a popular vote system! That's why remainers in the UK aren't screaming for a revote because they weren't the popular option.

[@bertspivey3214]

He called Jemelle Bouie a "he"? This is fun. This is a fun time.

[@TheFarCobra]

Could be worse, you could live in a country where the leader is as clueless as AOC ... Like Canada.

[@mlvcustomsllc5395]

Yo Ben, I've had to subscribe to you 3 times now! WTF

[@PaxChristi7]

Laughable defense and a Notre Dame helmet in the thumbnail...seems about right

[@mort2123]

My mom told me when I was a kid dont make fun of people with mental disabilities, aoc ate lead paint when she was a kid

[@istvanpraha]

Omg I love the picture

[@ineedmondayoff]

If the founding fathers wanted a true democracy then why did they establish the electoral college? SMH 🤦‍♂️

[@fredfarquar6709]

I guess you never read the Federalist Papers, huh?

[@ineedmondayoff]

How does your statement answer the proposed question?

[@ineedmondayoff]

Rory Mulligan Right. That’s why I said a True Democracy as in a pure/direct democracy where people directly initiate policies and or directives.

[@fredfarquar6709]

ineedmondayoff Fair enough. The founding fathers debated vigorously about the type of country they wanted. They wanted to try to insure that the government would never be able to become tyrannical in its actions, yet were well aware that a true democracy was subject to its own tyranny, the tyranny of the majority, which can pass ANY law it wants, no matter how unjust(as one other commenter said, two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner). They knew that urban centers would have the greatest populations, and would dominate elections in a simple popular vote. This was the reason for the electoral college: so that states with dense populations would not be able to unilaterally determine who is elected president. This is the same reason there are two bodies in the legislature branch: the House (based solely on population of states) and the Senate (EQUAL representation of each state). If they had not made the electoral college, New York, California, and a couple other states would always determine who was to be president, and people living in ALL the other states would have no say in it. This is why the Democrats are trying to get rid of it, because they pretty much control those high population states (and are also running them into the toilet!). Our governor (Colorado, Democrat) has joined with a bunch of other Democrat governors to try to MANDATE that the electoral college members vote, not on the results of the STATE vote, but on the results of the entire country's overall vote, thus effectively eliminating the electoral college and making the individual votes in our state and most other states meaningless. For example: In a pure democracy, the majority, if they felt like it, could vote that anyone NOT having the majority view be arrested and executed! So, no, the founding fathers did NOT agree on having a pure democracy. The Federalist Papers show the many debates on this and a lot of other subjects concerning the making of a country.

[@ineedmondayoff]

By your statement "it's a representative democracy rather than direct democracy, still a democracy", you agree there are variations in the forms of democracy. I also understand there are variations in the forms i.e. pure/ direct/ true/ representative. But, since you want to argue semantics and purposely miss my point, there are reasons why the founding fathers instituted the electoral college to elect the President instead of using the popular vote. The main one being that the more populous states don't get to over power or out vote the less populous states. Since the U.S is comprised of sovereign states (not people) that make up the nation each state gets a more equal voice with the electoral college format. Lastly, and I'm sure you will want to argue about it but the U.S is a constitutional republic not a representative one. Each state has equal powers, no one has more than the other and that's the whole point.

[@Sturmgeschutz2]

"If you think about politics in an intellectual way, you are likely to be on the left... but once you started thinking, if you think a bit harder and longer, you'll make it back to where you would have been if you have never thought at all." Sir Rodger Scruton.

[@synthiaseven9342]

Hanging are comeing

[@marlonmoncrieffe0728]

We live in a federal republic AND a representative (a.k.a. indirect) democracy. I am one of the few conservatives who is against the Electoral College. I would rather have a popular vote BUT with an instant run-off vote and NOT First Past the Post vote like we have.

[@carolarnold9916]

Succinct and informative Ben. 👍✌❤🇺🇸

[@ericwall3526]

She's made the people of her district look like fools.

[@drippinglass]

AOC is only interesting at 1:45AM... last call... 8 beers and 4 shots later.

[@nashf5925]

Keep doing what you're doing AOC. You're making the smart people look even smarter, lol

[@JoeCnNd]

Dont put her in a Notre dame helmet please.

[@papiparsons9045]

How many times is "democracy" in the constitution?

[@bromandude1]

The dam has broken and they’re trying to scoop up the water with colliders

[@gusmc2220]

if you don't pay income tax you shouldn't be allowed to vote imo, people who don't pay the bills shouldn't be allowed to decide on how the money is spent.

[@SeanVplayer]

We Definitely and for sure should not be granting the right to vote to those who sneak into the country like a thief in the night. And it is Insane to think someone making bad decisions in their personal lives, such as felons, should be allowed to vote where the welfare of the general population is concerned. “Look round the habitable world, how few Know their own good, or, knowing it, pursue!” John Dryden.

[@Sir.VicsMasher]

Get rid of the Electoral College? Only if we institute voter ID laws. j/k getting rid of the EC is non-negotiable.

[@user-qo7nt7cz9f]

The media and AOC are very clever in modifying the techniques, tactics and procedure used in “The basic principles of war propaganda (Principes élémentaires de propagande de guerre) a monograph by Anne Morelli published in 2001”. She is attacking the weak link- knowledge of a younger generation that has not studied the subjects you pointed out.

[@jrosa7319]

Has the brilliant AOC said anything about her own Democrat party policy of super delegates to decide the nomination for President?

[@techjunkie758]

Would anyone else pay to watch a Michael Knowles/Ben Shapiro vs AOC debate?

[@andreamiller3578]

That wouldn't be a debate. It would be a slaughter.

[@jobckts682]

children really like her fairytales.

[@oiocha5706]

I am the Senate!

[@thomasgryboski8978]

I feel like a large part of the origins of this popular vote movement stem from the lack of knowledge as to how the number of electoral votes are assigned to each state. It’s the same number as the seats each state gets in legislature (house + senate)

[@zachwitters3293]

"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." Why do we call ourselves a democracy? I'm pretty sure JFK was the last president to refer to us as a Republic.

[@CornerTalker]

If the Electoral College goes, why shouldn't the Senate? Why should Wyoming get to send the same # of senators as California?

[@hibachifordinner8945]

How much do I save on life insurance next time with the new promo code?

[@casualobserver2380]

Democracy is me deciding what's best for everyone so just like get over it. -AOC sometime in the near future

[@rradtke815ify]

Hmmm... I thought the oath of office said to uphold the constitution... Just a thought AOC! Oops I'm sorry you don't know what uphold means...look it up!