Why You NEED Timecode to Make Filmmaking Easier

[@vocaldjiane]

Good video, explains it well. Annoying, disturbing and distracting background music.

[@dthreatt]

Great background music

[@vocaldjiane]

@@dthreatt sorry, didn't know you're the composer. Yeah, it's really awesome. I was just 😃

[@NewYorkerPEACE]

Best breakdown on workflow and overall tutorial.

[@Brian-Hansen]

Timecode is indeed an improvement that I should have implemented long before I actually did. It rocks. Do it!

[@AlejandroMaagno]

This is what I’ve been needing all along. 🙏🙏🙏

[@PjPerez]

Totally de-mystified this for me. Then again, having tools like Tentacle Sync streamlines timecode syncing both from a hardware and software perspective than more cumbersome methods. Thanks for another great vid!

[@sophiebrown8530]

This was the most helpful video I’ve seen on this! Thank you for making it so simple! I got a bit confused between green and red mode, but now it makes sense!

[@WoolyJumper5]

Got the Deity set and can’t wait to see how it improves workflow, omg what a relief..

[@garyclement5527]

Beautiful. I can't wait to get mine. B&H out right now, but I will get it. This definitely have me sold.

[@MrCJHamill]

You have done a great service to the audio / visual community! Timecode for the win!

[@leelove7126]

Nice job of explaining the Tentacle Sync devices and how they work. Thanks

[@rty1955]

haha I was editing 2" videotape using a grease pencil and a razor blade, Then i used Timecode on a EECO editor, then CMX, ALL LINEAR ANALOG editing. The first non linear i used was the CMX-600 system. What I could now do on my laptop, used to take over a million dollars worth of equipment.

[@harlemwoodstudios]

Excellent instructional video on using timecode with Tentacle devices!

[@WWPTV]

Man, I thought I knew a lot. Now I am thinking about Timecode. I am using two Canon G50 4K cameras and Sling Studio one wired and one wireless using a camera link. Mysteriously they sync up. Other team members are using Yolobox Pro and we are constantly talking audio, syncing, device powering off and software auto-switching to a non-prefered audio source, etc. So this helps t=me to have a idea how to sync. I am assuming you can use audio to input Timecode into Tentacle Sync. What if I don't want to record timecode on a prime camera, and use that as the master audio track? So now I have more research to do so I don't sound unprepared when I suggest this solution.

[@EdwardKilner]

Subscribed, you earned it with the block diagram. Finally, somebody gets it. let's see if the rest of the video is as good.

[@simonleonp]

I appreciate the solid making of this video!

[@keremaksoy77]

Thank you for this great video but how you can mix the background music like this. 16 minutes a crazy high volume music.

[@yesayasonice]

Thank you for this video, it really simplified timecode for me

[@BrennanMartin]

Thanks for giving out this information, a lot of other videos about timecode are really not great. I'm looking to buy an f6 to go with my gh6, which I think you don't need the tentacle for. So we'll see how that works!

[@TheFlyingDutchMan8K]

very interesting thanks ! subscribed . . . so from the Sony A7III with cable in to tentacle Sync E and go wireless to Sound Devices MixPre-3 II ? sorry i'm new in this kind of stuff ;) ( only one tentacle need ? for one camera setup ) thank you

[@Mike0193Azul]

Wow awesome video those tentacle syncs look amazing I need them 🐙

[@spec-productions5733]

Thanks for your effort and explanations. I echo the comments of others that the music was annoying. That said, great job and it's still completely relevant in 2022. If you still have the source edit, would be nice if you could re-up without the music and link to it (maybe even cross-link and ask viewers to comment on which version they prefer more).

[@SetterStudios]

I appreciate an actually helpful comment about the music, if I can find the edit I totally will do this. Everyone else has just been complaining and not offering a solution. If KZbin offered video replacement I would have ages ago but I don’t want to loose the views on this existing one and you idea might work well.

[@paulmiller6336]

Great video. Thank you. I just wondered if anyone had experienced tentacle syncs laying timecode as audio onto both of a DSLR’s camera audio tracks? I’ve had this problem which means there is no longer any onboard camera mic audio on one of the tracks which isn’t very helpful…it’s nice to have at least one camera audio track as a dialogue track just in case the timecode audio track doesn’t work for any reason…anyone else experienced this problem?

[@OUCGN]

wow that was extremely helpful.Thank you!

[@gustavosantoromusic]

Excellent video, thank you so much for the great explanation!

[@powerflex500]

I have 6 of those. Very important for workflow and syncing in post,.

[@barbographer]

Ty for this I was about to spend money on the deity interview kit, this seems way more practical and guaranteed

[@ynegra0481]

Dude! best tutorial so far, thank you.

[@barisbeger]

you can do the same process if you have a pair of wireless microphone like sennheiser evolution.you can send the time code with transmitter and take the time code with receiver you need a couple of mini jack to bnc cable for transmitter and receiver thats all

[@bsetter]

Very clever and a pretty great idea. You may experience micro delay though as there is sometimes micro second of latency with the wireless transmission especially on some digital wireless systems.

[@p-r-i-v-a-t-e]

thank you for clear explanation and no bs video.

[@timsmusic7349]

Super cool instructions. Thanks so much dude. You been a great help. 👍👍

[@javierhasbani3057]

Thanks for sharing your knowledge and your time.

[@AndrewLXiong]

Awesome video...just learn something today about time code. Thanks

[@DEVUNK88]

so in short every peice of footage and audio is all recording off the same clock, so the NLE will import all the footage and audio in order or will put footage from multiple cameras synced with eachother, so nobody's lips will be moving without the audio being behind, and you can switch to differnet camera angles of the same shot without worrying about it being to early or late on the timline

[@darrengeorge8506]

So let me get this str8. If a device can receive the timecode - jammed to it once and then unplug the tentacle and the device will continue keeping the time code? So if I have a device that can maintain timecode like a C300 or a Zoom, once I jam that timecode and unplug it, the timecode will stay in sync? So if I'm understanding correctly, that would mean that if I had three C300s and one tentacle, I could jam the timecode to all three of the cameras? Which means I would only need one tentacle in this usage scenario?

[@andreasjunga5642]

Thank you very much, your Video is extremely helpful!

[@brianlynch3627]

Great video. Do you know if these work with the Canon XA line of cameras?

[@Firstmanphotography]

Awesome video dude....thanks. I've been syncing with audio for years and it's painful.

[@EricVelarde]

Not sure if anyone caught this but at 7:39 when you paused the video to see that all the Tentacles were in sync, Yellow is one frame off. Is 1 frame not a problem or how would you rectify it?

[@johnnysimes5082]

I saw that too. Seems like they are not in sync. Close, but not in sync.

[@Razertw]

Could be sensor readout?

[@jeremyalameda5061]

Yeah, I had to scroll through the comments to make sure someone else caught that as well and I wasn't going crazy.

[@EricVelarde]

@@jeremyalameda5061 Maybe WE are crazy 😜

[@irfanqureshi1983]

Thank you For explaining Sir... Sound Device 664 and camera Sony fs7 mark ii how to Sync with Tantacle

[@karan111987]

Excellent explanation. Would this multi tentacle sync setup be work with zoom H5 recorder? Thanks

[@jacobyu5050]

This is awesome, I got a question, how do you sync with the audio track?

[@f2f.photography]

Outstanding video! Thank you.

[@Frank_Seven_Lee]

Man great video. I was thinking about flying my fx6.

[@benjaminjameswaller]

cool. these look good. I see that the Zoom recorder generates timecode and you could use it as the master clock (source) and use Tentacle Sync as the slave, would there be an advantage of doing timecode with your recording generating it? I guess it might just be a matter of which one is better at keeping an accurate time.

[@powerflex500]

I have 2 Zoom F8's. Why didn't you use the Time Code from the Zoom as your Master Clock and jam sync the Tentacle sync boxes as slaves?

[@bodyspiritu4787]

Amazing explanation...you deserve a lot more subs..

[@aSimpleChat]

Very helpful! I am soooo new to this after relying on FCP X’s sync audio feature. If you have more clear instruction for newcomers such as me for learning this “sauce”, I’ll watch! Curious…can the device timecode with the iPhone’s video? I use FiLMicPro and was hoping it will work. Thank you for any advice!

[@cruisingforone]

So far I have found Rec app

[@jasoniscx4]

Great info. This video inspired me to pick one up. Thanks! Great video.

[@SetterStudios]

Thanks

[@billdeng8558]

what if you need the audio jack for an on-camera mic? how do you record sound while the tentacle sync is plugged in?

[@carsonmcmaster]

What happens if you have to do a battery change and the camera turns off. Could you then turn the camera back on and resume recoding and not have any issues syncing, as long as the tentacle device was still on?

[@GarretGrayCamera]

Great explanation. Let's say I have an FS5 that shows up to a shoot and needs sync. If I carry my own one of these and get sync from the recorder, what would the post department have to do as far as getting the tentacle software? Can it be downloaded for free if you haven't purchased the actual device?

[@bsetter]

It's either adding audio timecode to devices without timecode sync input OR its adding timecode directly to devices with timecode sync. So all your post department needs is the ability to sync timecode or embedded audio timecode. Most software can do that.

[@GarretGrayCamera]

@@bsetter Thanks for getting back to me. That's great to know I can use this this to embed the timecode and hand off the footage and they can sync my stuff to their audio. Probably a little grumble from the editor as it'll take an extra step or two. That'll help out alot. What a great little gadget.

[@ok4240]

best explanation ever, thanks a lot !!

[@jeremyalameda5061]

I usually shoot with 1 camera but up to 5 microphones. Not all 5 people are always in the frame at the same time, some people walk off to other areas of the location and I then track them down where they are at and chat a bit on camera. Do you know if this device would help me sync all the audio that is recorded seperatately and internally in their tascam lav mic recorders? Their audio doesn't go directly into camera. Thanks for any feedback you may have.

[@climber950]

At 7:41 when you freeze framed, 1 of the 2 were 1 frame out of sync already. 2 were 08 and the other 09.

[@smilebriansmith]

Bro....bro!!!! 😁 that’s all I have to say! Thank you!!! Man you explained that PERFECTLY!

[@familymusic1771]

How do you use a 3.5 mic when time code cable is using up the port? A splitter? Thanks for help

[@topdazzle]

You wouldn't - your audio instead comes from your audio recorder and external mics - the timecode syncs all of this up for you with your video. If you're plugging a mic directly into the camera (using single-system audio) then you don't need timecode as there's nothing to sync up.

[@Superjeanmarc]

This is AMAZING.. Would you mind to do a video picking up where you left it and show it works when you create your multitrack videos in FCPX using this XML file you exported? Also, other question, can you have different frame rates? Or should you treat b-roll that has been shot say at 50p, separately?

[@bjarnenilsson80]

Hold on yellow is one frane out, what hapoened did tht sync screw op or ar we dealing with click drift

[@SonnyLMugambi]

You've saved me so much time in future work. Thank you. Subscribed!

[@SonDialer]

If you move the zoom out the way, much cleaner surface to demonstrate a rather complex process

[@BuddyQuaid]

Awesome awesome video.

[@greatbellaphotography7682]

did you noticed that your yellow tentacle is out of sync by a frame? on min 7:42, any way, great video!

[@AlanVillatorooficial]

Fantastic video!! Thank you so much.

[@seunghoonchung3150]

if sync device using left channel of audio channel, is the camera still recording right channel when camera filming? if not. is there any y cable or solution I can use time code on the left and right channel recording through camera mic? Thank you.

[@gastontrussi]

Super Duper Easy to follow! thanks!

[@raph_the_guitarist7940]

Thanks for a great informative video! I am new to shooting/recording video. I really want to purchase this product, however, I have a couple of questions. 1. On 8:23 - 8:25 of your video does that sound remain throughout the entire recording session as the tentacle sync writes timecode to your left channel of the camera? 2. Or does that sound only happens when you initially connect the the tentacle sync through the mini jack and to your microphone input of your camera? Thanks!

[@Phllm]

I can't speak on the quality of the zoom but if you ever use a sound devices or other more pro brands, always make your recorder as master. the crystal in these recorders is much more reliable and your sound person has the ability to monitor and dictate the master value when troubleshooting drift.

[@Hangs4Fun]

yes, very true, the oscillators and crystals are pretty good quality. Though, that being said, 1 frame off in 24 hours, is pretty freaking amazing in my book.

[@radcowley]

Say I’m tracking into Pro Tools instead of the zoom recorder. Could I in theory get an additional tentacle sync, a mini to xlr cable, and track analog into a channel in PT? If pro tools is just tracking it as a waveform, how can I decipher the time data in post. What’s the best way to utilize timecode and track audio in pro tools?

[@SetterStudios]

In theory yes, you’re exactly right. You’d need to load the timecode track from your protools session into tentacle sync studio to sync with your camera angles. Import that multi cam into Adobe premiere. Then once that’s done master your audio in pro tools without changing the length of the audio recording. Export that mastered audio from protools and replace the audio track in premiere (the timecode track) with the new mastered music.

[@RolandChytra]

awsome thx! But what if I change the framerate during a day of shooting on one of the cameras for example: Synced framerate to the cameras and fieldrecorder 50p - change to 120p for some slowmo. Does the timecode stay when I go back to "normal/synced" framerate or do I have to sync all devices again? Further, if I load the footage to post: The clip with the 120 frames would need more "space" to the other clips (Cam 2 & fieldrecorder)

[@SetterStudios]

Timecode is frame rate dependent. So you would need to change your timecode frame rate to match. You *may* be able to do this with BMPCC button that switches to high frame rate but leaves the project frame rate at 23.98. You would want to test before you commit to this plan.

[@wierdpocket]

If you're using a TC to jam devices throughout the day and it goes OFF after a couple of hours (like you mentioned around 10:00) does the timecode persist, or does it reset?

[@bsetter]

amndemo the tentacle sync has like 30hours of battery life but if you are jamming timecode from a tentacle sync only temporarily to a device that is not continually connected your tentacle sync. When that camera or device powers off (say dead camera battery) you may have to res jam timecode again after powering back up. Again only if your tentacle syncs is not continuously connected (ie using one tentacle sync for multiple devices).

[@wpkambiancesounds]

@@bsetter Great info Brandon, thank you.

[@shapecleveland7365]

Can I ask why you didn't sync them all over wireless? Like from the app? Thank for your making this this was very helpful.

[@user-nu8bf3bf9m]

Is the tentacle software compatible with davinci?

[@EugenioTrainer]

Great video, Do you know if is possible to genlock two cameras? without genlock output but with timecode in Maybe with and an external generator or an external recorder such a Shogun 7? Thanks

[@SetterStudios]

Genlock is different from timecode. But the Atomos Sumo 19 No longer requires genlock for the multi cam view features

[@nightmusic1974]

Excellent explanation, couldnt hope more useful infos about these Tentacle syncs devices! Well, maybe I didnt fully got one thing: When pluging the 'Master' Tentacle device into an the Zoom recorder, should we let it plugged all along, (and have a dedicated device for it) or just pluging/unpluging is enough for the recorder to 'shoot' the timecode sync, even without Tentacle further connected to it? That seems to be what you did in the video, but i must admit i dont get how it's supposed to work that way then.

[@SetterStudios]

Yes leave it plugged in for the zoom. Some cameras can temporarily receive the signal and keep running the same timecode until the camera powers down

[@nightmusic1974]

Setter Studios thank for confirming this, now i got it.Very useful piece of gear!

[@NavesNiche]

that's a really really good video! thank you.

[@propylaeen]

So timecode does not use an extra audio channel on your sound recorder?

[@eight7sixjoe]

can you use the tentacle sync with like drones, and drone remote controller screen, pocket 2, action 4 etc?

[@adambobroy7682]

what lens is that?

[@jonnydelgato]

Great video, thanks a mill. Music is a bit on the loud side, but bearable.

[@josevera8555]

wow, this is great, thanks for the insight.

[@mathewlee4174]

Great video. Super helpful. But what if one camera is switching between different frame rates i.e. going from 25 fps to 50 fps and back to 25 fps. Will the different cameras stay in sync or do you have to jam sync again all the different cameras?

[@massivefilmco]

They will sync up to a certain frame rate defined in the specs as long as the project time rate stays the same.

[@sobolevskys]

and maximum amount of units work in same time is.... ? second question: what will happen if battery of tentacle gonna die ? what wbout audio of gh5 ?

[@stevenkralovec]

Awesome video! Super helpful! At 7:40 not all of them are accurate to the exact frame. Is that just a glitch?

[@Emeskovp]

Can you use this with Edius Pro 7 editing software?

[@AlexPetrov108]

Great video, thanks! I wonder how long those devices stay in sync and how often you need to sync them up? And what about that Zoom recorder? Does it get off sync after a few hours, given it’s all offline

[@MikeHudsontek]

Is it possible to sync two Sony A7iii together for shooting a 2 camera setup? I don't quite get why we have to use these extra devices when cameras have BT/Wifi

[@TVideoupload]

Good question, does it ?

[@Kuliginvitalik]

Why i should use tentacle whe i can use 3.5 jack for this, i can’t understand

[@familymusic1771]

Is this compatible with Davinci resolve 18?

[@Hangs4Fun]

Just added the new Atomx Sync to my Atomos Ninja V. Atomos recently purchased TCS (the maker of the UltraSync One and Blue devices and the ones who engineered this Atomx component to plug into your Ninja V recorder. It does RF and Bluetooth, but has no BNC or other connection options. So curious, if you know if the Sync E devices can join the bluetooth network that the Ninja V's Atomx Sync creates when it is master? Or what would be the technique to getting Ninja V Sync devices TC onto a Tentacle Sync E device. I ask, because my alternative is to purchase the Atomos UltraSync One at $280 each, PLUS they don't give you cables any more like TCS used to, so I would have to be a $40 Din to BNC cable so I could Jam my Zoom F4 and a $62 Din to 3.5mm cable to do LTC to my backup camera (without a Ninja V). Then, I would also have to buy a $150 license to use LTC Convert, since Premiere still doesn't sync LTC files. So, really it would be $280 + $40 + $62 + $150 or $532 for one UltraSync One solution. Surely there is a way to jam TC from the Atomos Sync to a Tentacle Sync E? The camera that will be attached to the Ninja V will be a A7SIII and my backup camera is a Sony A9. Thanks in advance :-)

[@KingStivan]

hello, can i just buy one and just plug it in when i start recodering on the cam and then take it out and do that to the next cam ? i know i`ll have to keep suncing everytime a cam stops recording and all. so it is possible ?

[@heaps.]

Good, clear explanation, thanks

[@uniqueneferu9878]

great video! you explained it well thankyou

[@SetterStudios]

Thanks

[@grinns007]

Great video, was wondering if you would still turn down the camera audio in the settings like when attaching a video mic? Would that affect the time code since it uses sound to generate?

[@SetterStudios]

You can be not all the way down

[@geoffheith]

This is the best video of Tentacle that I've seen. SOOOOO question then based on what I saw here. I have : RED Dragon, Black Magic Pocket and Zoom 4 ... so based on this I just need ONE tentacle sync to sync them all up with the BNC cable right?

[@bsetter]

Geoff Heith well thanks for your kind words. In theory yes you are correct however the BM may reset timecode if you power down the camera, so you’d have to resync after that. Generally a good rule of thumb is to double check timecode is still in sync if you power off your cameras if your timecode isn’t always attached.

[@Hangs4Fun]

@@bsetter Just added the new Atomx Sync to my Atomos Ninja V. Atomos recently purchased TCS (the maker of the UltraSync One and Blue devices and the ones who engineered this Atomx component to plug into your Ninja V recorder. It does RF and Bluetooth, but has no BNC or other connection options. So curious, if you know if the Sync E devices can join the bluetooth network that the Ninja V's Atomx Sync creates when it is master? Or what would be the technique to getting Ninja V Sync devices TC onto a Tentacle Sync E device. I ask, because my alternative is to purchase the Atomos UltraSync One at $280 each, PLUS they don't give you cables any more like TCS used to, so I would have to be a $40 Din to BNC cable so I could Jam my Zoom F4 and a $62 Din to 3.5mm cable to do LTC to my backup camera (without a Ninja V). Then, I would also have to buy a $150 license to use LTC Convert, since Premiere still doesn't sync LTC files. So, really it would be $280 + $40 + $62 + $150 or $532 for one UltraSync One solution. Surely there is a way to jam TC from the Atomos Sync to a Tentacle Sync E? The camera that will be attached to the Ninja V will be a A7SIII and my backup camera is a Sony A9. Thanks in advance :-)

[@andrewfordpics]

Excellent video and info, ThankYou...

[@Gdenariwoo]

Do I need this if I use Pluraleyes?

[@YuqingGuo]

Thanks , this video is super helpful !!!!

[@CLDProductions]

How do you handle timecode with multiple takes. Say your doing a music video with a band and they are playing along to some music. how do you get the time code to sync with a music track so every time you play the track the time code will be the same for each take.

[@SetterStudios]

That’s a really good question! There is no way to line up 3 takes of the song to match using timecode. Timecode is continually running forward in time allowing you to sync all cameras and audio sources. You would still want to use timecode to do that part but you would want to feed a click track audio source to the band and your audio recorder so the song takes can be synced to each other forcing the band to play each take exactly in time one to the next. You would need to use a click track synced with the musicians to do that.

[@benbadenhorst2423]

Great video!

[@hal-zeitlin]

Can you sync timecode in Premiere without their app