Medieval Instant Legolas VS Traditional Longbow / Warbow

  Рет қаралды 231,535

Shadiversity

Shadiversity

Күн бұрын

Пікірлер: 2 400
@tods_workshop
@tods_workshop 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Shad, great stuff and glad you got the hang of it; like everything it takes a bit of getting used to, but you did a great job. The magazine spring set up could be made to swivel out of the way (good idea) and that would make a speed clip easy; that is why I think the loading could be much faster than either of us achieved. The draw length on my IL is about 30'5" and I would guess you usually draw to around 28 or 29" if you are a tall guy, so the extra weight you feel is probably exactly that. The great thing about the IL is that it is the 'gift that keeps giving' because you are having to address your thoughts all over again as the weights go up. It is quite simply an intriguing device. Anyway on to the distance tests! Bring it on.
@shadiversity
@shadiversity 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Tod! I have to say your medieval legolas is an incredible beast, it held up tremendously. You truly are a master craftsman. Yes you might be on to something about the draw length there and I totally agree that reload could be improved with practice and maybe even a tweak or two. Ha ha, awesome to see you excited for the distance tests, I am too, can't wait ^_^
@shadowmaster9279
@shadowmaster9279 4 жыл бұрын
Myb try making a clip for the arrows so you just put in a stack of 4 at once into the magazine? I hope I did a good job conveying my idea being a non native english speaker!
@sopadebronha
@sopadebronha 4 жыл бұрын
I think that having shorter arrows/bolts would make realoading much easier.
@TheScarvig
@TheScarvig 4 жыл бұрын
wouldn't it be possible to build the whole thing in a way that you can essentially push out the whole sliding part to the front or maybe the back (if you ditch the holding handle) so that you can "hotswap" in the entire sliding part fully loaded? that way on a defensive position use one could empty one sled, pull it off, grab a new one from a stack and continue shooting. this would require multiple sleds that fit each other, which would be difficult with medieval tools, but could it work from a theoretical point?
@DrTheRich
@DrTheRich 4 жыл бұрын
@@shadiversity also maybe try without the handle on the front, I feel it might increase the drawing time. You don't need it when speed shooting anyway
@aurex8937
@aurex8937 4 жыл бұрын
So, are you telling me you won't be skateboarding down your battlements while shooting arrows?
@michaelhoy4249
@michaelhoy4249 4 жыл бұрын
Obviously you can only do that on a shield not a skateboard :)
@taklampan650
@taklampan650 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelhoy4249 Exactly!
@TheThingInMySink
@TheThingInMySink 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelhoy4249 Shieldboarding then
@thatHARVguy
@thatHARVguy 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheThingInMySink Anthony Hawke approves.
@IrishCarney
@IrishCarney 3 жыл бұрын
What about running along elephants or barrels bouncing along in rapids?
@RoyMcLellan
@RoyMcLellan 4 жыл бұрын
I love how your true Aussie comes out when you're horsing around with your brothers. The façade of professionalism drops for a moment, your accent gets thicker, and we get to see "fun Shad". I love that guy. We need to see more of him.
@insane_troll
@insane_troll 4 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about, he doesn't have an accent, he's Australian. It is really quite remarkable, everyone in the world has accents except for Australians.
@ididathink5295
@ididathink5295 4 жыл бұрын
Insane Troll everyone has accents including Australian’s you don’t hear it when you are Australian
@Negniwret
@Negniwret 4 жыл бұрын
@@ididathink5295 That's the joke
@Maric18
@Maric18 4 жыл бұрын
@@ididathink5295 Its almost as if a statment by someone named insane troll that is highly questionable might or might not be a joke/troll post
@Nightenstaff
@Nightenstaff 4 жыл бұрын
What about castle defense with the Instant Legolas? Archer on the wall, shoot until empty, hand the bow off for an assistant (perfect use of a child or teen who doesn't have the strength to pull back the bow and is protected by the wall) to reload while being handed a full bow.
@Boomchacle
@Boomchacle 4 жыл бұрын
sounds like the way they could do it with crossbows but faster
@TheOneMastodon
@TheOneMastodon 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@kekero540
@kekero540 4 жыл бұрын
Mounted crank operated dual fully automatic longbow turrets.
@bastionaudio
@bastionaudio 4 жыл бұрын
Shoot stripper clips and throw empty clip for reload by child assistant
@Cribbo
@Cribbo 4 жыл бұрын
This makes me fear human inventiveness, time to study time travel!
@AngryDuck79
@AngryDuck79 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like this clearly demonstrates the whole bow vs crossbow thing. A skilled archer can dominate a crossbowman in range and accuracy but it requires ages of training and practice, whereas any shlub in a gambeson can pick up a crossbow and be moderately effective. When fielding large numbers of poorly trained troops, the legolas would be the weapon of choice. For individual specialists, the bow would be preferable. Edit: And of course I commented before finishing the video because at 22:45 you say exactly this.
@angquangnguyenthac2833
@angquangnguyenthac2833 4 жыл бұрын
@sgt dornan you probably doing a big 4 volley and then reload. Which would overwhelm the traditional Archer and getting faster result. This is kinda cool honestly.
@angquangnguyenthac2833
@angquangnguyenthac2833 4 жыл бұрын
@C. Caner Telimenli That's the job of the blacksmith, not the soldiers. Also, they can make big boy crossbow, then they can made this
@seriousmaran9414
@seriousmaran9414 4 жыл бұрын
In England bow practice was a legal requirement so most men would be adequately trained. Early on, before Agincourt, steel armour was relatively rare compared with wrought iron. Once steel became widespread in use the bow became irrelevant and was replaced with guns. That said the battlefield at Agincourt greatly favoured the English with soft terrain that quickly became a morass mixed with previously shot arrows. Exhaustion seems to have been a major factor. The French had some crossbowmen who were completely outmached and forced to withdraw. The same area was fought over during WW1 and again favoured defense over attack.
@angquangnguyenthac2833
@angquangnguyenthac2833 4 жыл бұрын
@C. Caner Telimenli and? Maintenance isn't a hard job most of the time for decently skilled blacksmith. And you probably not gonna use this shit often with that much intensity, since war isn't constant. It's kinda like a repeating crossbow, which is actually pretty cool. Of course, a repeating crossbow is much harder to make, while this thing can be mass produced and being way cruder than those without fucking with the functions, since a fleching usually was made by duck feathers, not solid wood. It's just something that can probably be used in the middle ages IF people actually think about it.
@angquangnguyenthac2833
@angquangnguyenthac2833 4 жыл бұрын
@C. Caner Telimenli they did in fact give every peasant Archer a crossbow. Of course, highly trained Archer would use a big boy long war bow instead. But that's because a long bow has far greater combat potential than a crossbow. That said, this thing is probably having somewhat of the same performance cieling. So there's that.
@Wukong330
@Wukong330 4 жыл бұрын
The instant legolas would be good if treated like a musket. Have a reloader behind the archer and have 2 legolas to swap for constant rate of fire
@benjaminholcomb9478
@benjaminholcomb9478 4 жыл бұрын
They did similar things with crossbows
@thak777
@thak777 4 жыл бұрын
That was exactly my thought. You can't exactly have someone else reload a traditional bow for you.
@jetstreamlynn3156
@jetstreamlynn3156 4 жыл бұрын
@@thak777 I'm fairly certain that with those asian rapid fire crossbows they had that. One could also create magazines for this.
@Wukong330
@Wukong330 4 жыл бұрын
@Bill Whittaker true. It would definitely be expensive technically speaking. That's why you would stagger them with typical bowmen. So one legolas archer then 2 bowmen, rinse and repeat. That would disperse the constant rain of fire to cover a wider area.
@freefrag1910
@freefrag1910 4 жыл бұрын
yea, have a little boy reload the things and ez win
@RainMakeR_Workshop
@RainMakeR_Workshop 4 жыл бұрын
I think Brookland instead of Brooklyn works. There is a Brooklands here in the UK. But no Brookland that I know of. But you need to plant a woodland and call it Shadwood Forest lol. Build a bandit camp for your Merrry Men. You can host renaissance fairs right by it.
@RainMakeR_Workshop
@RainMakeR_Workshop 4 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm... Now I'm curious what a "historically accurate" bandit camp would look like lol.
@tods_workshop
@tods_workshop 4 жыл бұрын
Shadwood forest is genius
@RainMakeR_Workshop
@RainMakeR_Workshop 4 жыл бұрын
@@tods_workshop I think it'd be cool. Lets just hope Shad agrees. Nice work on the Medieval Instant Legolas btw.
@OstapKomaryanskyy
@OstapKomaryanskyy 4 жыл бұрын
With the audio quality I totally heard that as Brooklyn. I think, there would be some confusion regardless.
@wutmagna7222
@wutmagna7222 4 жыл бұрын
Or if he simply planted a lot of trees in one corner of the property and let that be Shadwood Forest. Then, durring the festival, there can be actual bandit raids on the castles by the Merry Men from their camp.
@daeger2471
@daeger2471 4 жыл бұрын
"Ayyy, I'm WALKIN' here!" - a Brookland peasant
@justskip4595
@justskip4595 4 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Finland. Yeah I hear that Brooklyn is one of the worst places in USA here. No hate, that's just news here. At least it would make sense if place of conflict is surrounded by castles. :D
@whoahanant
@whoahanant 4 жыл бұрын
@@justskip4595 I'm unsure if Brooklyn is the worst city here, I know many of our major cities in the US have a few issues. Like Detroit was pretty bad for a long time and a few others may have outshined it by now. I think Brooklyn is just viewed as a very hardy type of city in general, it may just be because of the accent though. I don't know what city is currently the top worst city anymore. XD Edit: Anchorage has the highest crime rate but St. Louis was named most deadliest.
@Squeeble00
@Squeeble00 4 жыл бұрын
@@whoahanant detroit is still bad. I live like 30 minutes away from it
@All4Grogg
@All4Grogg 4 жыл бұрын
​@@whoahanant Brooklyn is a burrow of NYC and NYC is one of the safest US cities per capita overall.
@justskip4595
@justskip4595 4 жыл бұрын
@@whoahanant I thought I said one of the worst, not the worst. But yeah here in the north we get limited amounts of news and the name of that place keeps on popping up more than most others when it comes to negative news. I have no idea about the accent from there because I speak non european language as my first language so distinguishing the accents is like hearing a difference between letters w and v which I can not do.
@Judgement_Kazzy
@Judgement_Kazzy 4 жыл бұрын
Shad's kids, trying to sound tough: "I grew up on the streets of Brookland"
@djaydeved
@djaydeved 4 жыл бұрын
eh they should be well adversed in midevil combat of all kinds
@decafcoffee7492
@decafcoffee7492 4 жыл бұрын
@@djaydeved I'm really sorry to be that person, but *medieval
@Stettafire
@Stettafire 4 жыл бұрын
@@decafcoffee7492 I think the commenter was trying to make a joke based on OPs joke :) Bookland and midevil:P
@Xarcht
@Xarcht 2 жыл бұрын
I think his kids, all the neighbors kids too, would be proficient in most hand powered weapons. School fights? Maybe one sided thumpings.
@sevenproxies4255
@sevenproxies4255 4 жыл бұрын
Reloading an instant legolas is a matter of training though. Same as with most firearms. A professional musketeer was able to reload far quicker than a novice. And even in modern militaries, there's a huge difference between just regular reloads and "tactical" reloads. If you spent some time practicing on realoding the instant legolas, I think you'd be able to squeeze more shots per minute out of it.
@havtor007
@havtor007 4 жыл бұрын
Well yes and no. You would get faster but in a combat situation, you have a lot of stress on you so there is a very good chance that the reload would be slower then what the person is capable of doing on the training field. (this also obv apply to the bow normally but there are ways to minimize this on a bow) You can not really compare it to reloading in modern-day as loading individual bullets is not really done on the battlefield if you can avoid it.
@sevenproxies4255
@sevenproxies4255 4 жыл бұрын
@@havtor007 No but reloading magazines is. Doing it quickly requires practice and a suitable chestrig. And once you've got it down, you exchange magazines lightning quick.
@havtor007
@havtor007 4 жыл бұрын
@@sevenproxies4255 You can not compare loading a magazine to loading arrows. the loading of arrows is closer to loading individual bullets. (the whole Instant legolas is the magazine) That is the problem i have with what you are saying here you think loading magazines need to be practised now try loading every single bullet by itself in a stressful situation without anything bad happening and slowing you down. A lot of bullets will fall to the ground not used as we can see when people started to use leveraction guns. And the ammunition is at a premium that is also something you need to know arrows are not cheap objects by themselves you do not want to waste it if you can avoid it. Please note i am saying closer to as both are not really the same.
@PiousSlayer
@PiousSlayer 4 жыл бұрын
@@havtor007 With this system you could theoretically develop a clip for fast reloading. There isn't a reason why one wouldn't work. It'd have to be custom made for it and a person could carry multiple stripper clips, like Shad mentions in the video. You could quickly and easily reload using clips quickly with training. It would be just like loading a magazine.
@havtor007
@havtor007 4 жыл бұрын
@@PiousSlayer Yes you can make a clip for it. That is 100% irrelevant for this though. That is NOT THE SAME THING as loading the instant legolas as how it is now that is also a technology development if created at that time. It is also bulk and mass added somewhere on the archer. Do people Really not understand that loading a Magazine into a rifle is not the same as loading the magazine in the first place? And even the loading of a magazine into the rifle requires practise to be done fast in stress-related situations. What is shown with this model of instant legolas before the thing is modified to take a stripper clip, you can make the loading faster in training but because of all the moving parts and fiddliness, it most likely will be Slower In REAL stress situations then what you can do on the training field. And you can not compare magazine into the weapon the same as putting the arrows into the instant legolas as that is closer to putting the bullets into the magazine in the first place. Remember that would require the people to not only invent and create the instant legolas but also invent the concept of a stripper clip and also invent it for this very specific application, is it possible yes but you could also make a magazine on a crossbow (as was invented) It is expensive hard to make require the invention of many different things just to make it work
@AresLeviathan
@AresLeviathan 4 жыл бұрын
Love Shad's face when he realizes he's named it Brooklyn.
@cgamejewels
@cgamejewels 4 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@AresLeviathan
@AresLeviathan 4 жыл бұрын
@mxt mxt Well its spelled Brooklyn. Maybe there's a small town named Brookland but Brooklyn is the big one.
@AresLeviathan
@AresLeviathan 4 жыл бұрын
@mxt mxt ....theres a Brookland in just about every state. At least 3 I'm sure. Nobody visits Brookland, USA unless they live there. The one everyone's heard of is Brooklyn. Basically, no one cares about any Brookland. In any state.
@ReimervdHoek
@ReimervdHoek 4 жыл бұрын
@@AresLeviathan But brooklyn is part of new york city right? Not a city itself
@AresLeviathan
@AresLeviathan 4 жыл бұрын
@@ReimervdHoek Well....you know you're right. Its a bourough but it was its own city in 1800. And its larger than most cities in the US. So it's practically a city. Certainly larger than Brookland....anywhere USA. But (sigh) yeaaaaah.
@DragonfameDracas
@DragonfameDracas 4 жыл бұрын
It's also important to remember Shad that you are a rank amateur with a Legolas bow, while you have experience with a traditional one, so even as a barely trained rookie you are matching rate of fire with a more experienced bowman, and this is before we even start getting to more refined/later versions of the legolas with electable preloaded cartridges
@carso1500
@carso1500 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah thats exactly what i through, he is an experienced archer, but an inexperienced archer with a railbow (i just think it sound cooler than instant Legolas), i can imagine with training you can develop techniques to quick reload and quick fire that would allow you to destroy a regular archer Also another advantage of the railbow is that you can start with arrows in the chamber, shoot, recharge, shoot, i guess you can shoot faster than a regular archer if you account a preloaded railbow So basically Shad should practice with the railbow and see if he can become faster with practice
@miles3101
@miles3101 4 жыл бұрын
@@carso1500 I think I remember the dude from the slingshot channel saying he thought about adding magazines, but the added weight was a big turnoff. So I think a middle ground could be achieved if you went for something like a speedloader designed specifically for the IL. Something that can hold bolts (same as the magazine) still ready to reload easily, that doesn't weight a lot but is constructed only to stabilize the bolts as a group to quicken reload, and then, something that can be just tossed once the reload is finished. I think by using something of this sort you could achieve way, WAY faster reloads, something like 3-6s with practice. Although obviously the highest concern would be translating it to the old technology. In my imagination, this kind of stripper clip would have a relativey firm skeleton consisting of one wood upper piece, 4 pieces of wood protruding from the first one in a way that stops bolts from falling (but allows them to be pushed through in a sort of \ / shape, the friction helping keeping them inside the "clip") that have a small protrution each to prevent them from going inside the magazine and minimize fumbling, and then a third piece that extends along the way of the first one, right below it, with an angle slightly higher than 180º that is connected to both ends of the bold body, and that has a small protrution for a thumb (or maybe even more) used to push the arrows into the magazine. You would want to recover them later, so it wouldn't be very effective on the move, but it would increase the rate of fire from a defensive force dramatically, given their ability to reload safer, the chances of them having a better way to store them, and a virtually no obstacle to recover them.
@carso1500
@carso1500 4 жыл бұрын
@@miles3101 i think theres actually a design that uses something similar to this, it's a insta legolini 3d printed that had a speedloader and if i'm not mistaken it worked pretty well, of course the dificulty would see if it can be made with just wood and medieval technology
@uiomancannot7931
@uiomancannot7931 4 жыл бұрын
As somebody mentioned on Tod's channel, It seems like the SIL would be a great ambush weapon, a group of people hiding and dumping arrows in a target and leaving, like an Assassination or mugging, instead of a conventional weapon.
@fatheragnostus
@fatheragnostus 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect weapon for taking someone down who's running or riding away. If you miss you can keep shooting in quick succession. Also really good for mugging because you can threaten them with the bow drawn without tiring.
@gormauslander
@gormauslander 4 жыл бұрын
@@fatheragnostus you definitely have a reflex advantage over someone who hasn't drawn a weapon. You can pull the trigger faster than someone can flip out a dagger
@xidarian
@xidarian 4 жыл бұрын
I think they'd work well with mounted archers. If well trained they could engage quickly, fire about 80% of their arrows then quickly disengage and reload farther away from the enemy then repeat.
@233Deadman
@233Deadman 4 жыл бұрын
possibly also a force multiplier for if you ahve a relatively small number of archers. Set them up for a fire by rank style: front rank fires, takes a knee to reload, second rank fires, kneels to reload, third rank fires, starts to reload, first rank stands and fires again.
@Cygnus888
@Cygnus888 4 жыл бұрын
@@233Deadman That would be the best I think, two rows would be too little, since reloading takes longer than firing.
@espneindanke9172
@espneindanke9172 4 жыл бұрын
Regarding the name of the property: *I would call the first castle "Shadsburg".* Historically, every town with "..burg" at the end has its name from the respective castle. So, *if you call the castle "Shadsburg"* at some point *"Shadsburg" will also serve as the name for the whole property.* It would be a natural process and "historically accurate"... or at least plausible.
@nunyabidniz2868
@nunyabidniz2868 4 жыл бұрын
"Shadsburg" would be a hamlet in the Germanies. "Shadwick" would be a castle or fortified town in Jollye Aulde... ;-)
@espneindanke9172
@espneindanke9172 4 жыл бұрын
@@nunyabidniz2868 "Shadwick"... later on "Shadwick Castle" (for the first Castle)... I like that :)
@buzzkrieger3913
@buzzkrieger3913 4 жыл бұрын
As I've worked for a while in Weybridge, by first thought was 'why's he named it after a racetrack?'
@petermenzies9193
@petermenzies9193 4 жыл бұрын
Brooksburg
@groundloss
@groundloss 4 жыл бұрын
@@nunyabidniz2868 I dont know about this "Shadsburg" and couldnt find one by search engine. But I could find "Schadeburg" - literaly this would be Pityburg (or Pittsburgh? :p )
@mikkohernborg5291
@mikkohernborg5291 4 жыл бұрын
Props for putting the IL through the ringer with a (reasonably) unbiased mindset, showing its flaws and not only its advantages. Also really cool seeing your other brother, he seems like a swell guy!
@respecthalo2963
@respecthalo2963 4 жыл бұрын
Brooklyn, like the U.S city? Shad: DAMNIT!!!!! I DIED 😂
@Nixeen
@Nixeen 4 жыл бұрын
I still think he should keep the name as Brookland. Its got a great story behind it now. :)
@aquasnippy
@aquasnippy 4 жыл бұрын
It’s not even a city too lol
@DeeSnow97
@DeeSnow97 4 жыл бұрын
maybe Shad is actually from the medieval period, could explain why he forgot Brooklyn existed
@PhilBagels
@PhilBagels 4 жыл бұрын
IIRC, the name "Brooklyn" comes from "broken land". So "Brookland" meaning "land of Brooks" would be etymologically different. Maybe something other than "land" at the end, like Brooksville or Brooksburg. How about Brooksburough? How about "Rookland" because of the castles.
@Bobis32
@Bobis32 4 жыл бұрын
@@PhilBagels I was thinking brooksburough
@MikefromTexas1
@MikefromTexas1 4 жыл бұрын
Not that you looked old before, but you seem younger and more youthful now. It's nice to see.
@mircea_ciobanu
@mircea_ciobanu 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah something about the full beard, and slightly differently styled hair really really makes him look younger.
@nroke1684
@nroke1684 4 жыл бұрын
EpIc gAmEr and the lost weight and cooler armor.
@PyrusFlameborn
@PyrusFlameborn 4 жыл бұрын
@@nroke1684 and on top of that he is a lot more energetic and doesn't get tired constantly which also makes him appear more youthfull.
@runswithphantoms
@runswithphantoms 4 жыл бұрын
Shad leveled up!
@VentedHalo
@VentedHalo 4 жыл бұрын
Here's an fun idea for the land name: Brook End. Two reasons: 1: Similar to Bag End, would give you an excuse to build your hobbit hole. 2: Bit of a play on Bookend, which is perfect since you're now an established author. :D
@generaltron
@generaltron 4 жыл бұрын
Ay thats an idea. Lol nice
@mattrickard3716
@mattrickard3716 4 жыл бұрын
Brooks End sounds cool too though. "Shadsdreiburgen" or "Brooksdreiburgen" for a more Germanic touch perhaps? Brooksvale could also be a contender.
@varuug
@varuug 4 жыл бұрын
Shadland.
@varuug
@varuug 4 жыл бұрын
@@mattrickard3716 Brooksvale is the little village by the lake.
@bokkenwielderful
@bokkenwielderful 4 жыл бұрын
I have four brothers, that extra big smile you have when working with family, resonates deeply with me.
@zaqzilla1
@zaqzilla1 4 жыл бұрын
Read up on the Siege of Plevna. You're idea of switching between single shot to repeating is exactly what the Ottomans did. You're relieving the late 19th & early 20th century of infantry arms through a medieval lens. You should try to get in touch with a WWI enthusiast. It would be great to have a video where you compare the Instant Legolas to early bolt actions. Every time you made a point I was going, "That's just like WWI!".
@CapitanCarter
@CapitanCarter 4 жыл бұрын
Its not bolt guns you're comparing, its magazine systems. literally the same when talking about single loading rifles and tube magazine rifles (whether lever action, pump action or bolt action). The huge difference was the advent of clips (Strip clips or en-bloc clips) which increased the over all rate of fire as you can load multiple rounds at once.
@IrishCarney
@IrishCarney 3 жыл бұрын
@@CapitanCarter Right, look at final battle in the movie Zulu where they showing what it was like to have to load one round at a time (even though sometimes the extras had anachronistic rifles that could take clips).
@shadfacts6465
@shadfacts6465 4 жыл бұрын
Shad Fact: Shad has a magical belt gifted to him by the Celestials for some help he gave them. They call it the Belt of Kuiper, and it grants him unlimited amounts of water, and any mineral he could want for forging weapons.
@sgt.wolfenstein0818
@sgt.wolfenstein0818 4 жыл бұрын
That's nice. The only thing I got from the Celestials was bird flu.
@Zeranon
@Zeranon 4 жыл бұрын
@@sgt.wolfenstein0818 :DD
@marcz2903
@marcz2903 4 жыл бұрын
That's fascinating, but what about dragons?
@themanthemyth4522
@themanthemyth4522 4 жыл бұрын
Seems legit
@flupsdarups3897
@flupsdarups3897 4 жыл бұрын
you named your channel shad facts just so you can leave these comments? you madman!!! haha
@kayodesalandy
@kayodesalandy 4 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of one sibling living like a medieval period fellow, and the other is a coder. Parents must be mighty confused lmao
@biggusy4249
@biggusy4249 4 жыл бұрын
3rd brother is an artist
@rulerofthewild7747
@rulerofthewild7747 4 жыл бұрын
I’m the 69th like
@kayodesalandy
@kayodesalandy 4 жыл бұрын
@@rulerofthewild7747 thank you for your service
@rassar7178
@rassar7178 4 жыл бұрын
I am the ninety sixth
@kayodesalandy
@kayodesalandy 4 жыл бұрын
@@biggusy4249 it turned out I was subscribed to his brother Jazza I had no clue lmao
@tiltedep6034
@tiltedep6034 4 жыл бұрын
Brotherly love "dO yA LikE tHe SmeLl In TheRe?"
@tiltedep6034
@tiltedep6034 4 жыл бұрын
Wow cool glad. I made ya laugh. If I made you laugh that is.
@francesbadger3401
@francesbadger3401 4 жыл бұрын
Medieval gangsters held their crossbow sideways, cause it's cool.
@KoboldIV
@KoboldIV 4 жыл бұрын
*bolt falls out*
@I_Crit_My_Pants
@I_Crit_My_Pants 4 жыл бұрын
@Alexandre for the bolt to fall out? You realize the vast majority of crossbows have no bolt retention on the top right?... That's literally where you load the bolt so there can be no bolt retention.
@jenniferschmitzer299
@jenniferschmitzer299 4 жыл бұрын
Manwitha Machinegun is this where a gal thinks about using bits of a car to help?
@timwatz2948
@timwatz2948 4 жыл бұрын
They be doin drive bys from there Horses.
@lukeskywalker8543
@lukeskywalker8543 4 жыл бұрын
No, they just invented crossbows
@MrMartinSchou
@MrMartinSchou 4 жыл бұрын
14:50 There are a couple of things to keep in mind with reloading. 1) Practice will make it a LOT faster (as will clips or magazines) 2) You can have a you boy load a second bow for you while you're shooting, allowing your reloads to be a few seconds instead. Spend one full day practising your reloading, and I'm sure you'll have it down to two very smooth motions including loading all four arrows at once. You already went form 13 seconds to 8 in the first 15 minutes of the video, and even without a clip or magazine, I would expect you to be able to get it down to four seconds. Your "compiled" time shows 7 seconds to fire four bolts. Add in the 4 seconds reload time, and that's 11 seconds total per "reload+empty". Start with 4 in the "chamber", so your reload spots would happen at 7 seconds, 18 seconds, 29, 40 and 51 for a total of 5 reloads+empty plus the original 4 bolts. Now you're up to 24 bolts per minute.
@Sporek
@Sporek 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly!👍
@kdemetter
@kdemetter 4 жыл бұрын
"I'm a programmer. It always works for me, but as soon as I give it to someone else..." Software Engineer here. I know exactly how that feels. Shad would make a good test engineer.
@LarryGarfieldCrell
@LarryGarfieldCrell 4 жыл бұрын
I'm still of the mind this is an ambush weapon. 50 men with 5 shots each, in hiding. Enemy group comes by. Wait for the right moment, then all 50 unload all at once. That's 250 kill shots in under 10 seconds. Then either run or switch to melee weapons to charge in and finish them off. In hit-and-run skirmishes, that would be devistating. You could wipe out a third to a half of a particular unit in a matter of seconds, then disappear. The reload speed doesn't come into play, but you can now take on a much larger force and whittle them down dramatically.
@seanangelo7950
@seanangelo7950 4 жыл бұрын
Stripper clips of arrows like bolt actions could dramatically increase reload rate, but that idea is very good
@henrypaleveda7760
@henrypaleveda7760 4 жыл бұрын
orckish mischief!
@MarkkuS
@MarkkuS 4 жыл бұрын
Also when shooting at a charging enemy, the rate of fire really matters.
@UnreasonableOpinions
@UnreasonableOpinions 4 жыл бұрын
A weapon that is heavier, bulkier, harder to conceal, and far more prone to jamming from getting dirt or plants stuck in it is not a weapon I'd like to bring to ambush. Especially considering that the weapon's main advantages come from making non-soldiers loose like decent soldiers, and the skilled veterans best suited to ambush parties are neither of those things. It's a very fun toy, but most of the clear advantages of the weapon are undone by the logistical difficulties inherent. It makes it more fun to play 'what if' games on the internet as a result, but the only scenarios I've seen here where it offers enough advantage to be worth the effort of making them are very niche.
@erikaushamburg8279
@erikaushamburg8279 4 жыл бұрын
Yep thats what I think too. Battles were fought for hours. No man has the muscle to shoot for hours with that kind of firing rate with the normal warbow draw weight from 120 pounds
@dragons_advocate
@dragons_advocate 4 жыл бұрын
It's official: Shad now owns Brooklyn! Don bless
@ericv00
@ericv00 4 жыл бұрын
May Joel never soil its glory.
@Leotheleprachaun
@Leotheleprachaun 4 жыл бұрын
@@ericv00 Fat Geralt stands guard. Will be the fight of the century.
@claudiussmith8798
@claudiussmith8798 4 жыл бұрын
I thought the shadlands😂
@LightningNC
@LightningNC 4 жыл бұрын
Since the reload time seems to be the main issue limiting the SIL, I'm reminded of what people used to do with slow-reloading muskets and rifles: volley fire. You have rows of shooters -- you could do it with two rows, but you'd probably want three or more. The first row shoots off all of its ammunition, and then steps back. The next row steps forward and takes their place, while the row that just shot reloads. And you just keep cycling through the rows.
@scottwerner279
@scottwerner279 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, the reload is almost as long as the firing phase, you would really only need two to three lines
@rmsgrey
@rmsgrey 4 жыл бұрын
For calculating the fire rate, you have three possible measures: There's the burst-fire rate - based on how long it takes to fire through an entire clip, and not bother about reloading, which looks to be very roughly 30 per minute (assuming you can shoot through a clip of 4 in 8 seconds). There's the sustained-fire rate - based on how long it takes to fire and reload a full clip - around 14 per minute - which ignores questions of ammunition supply and fatigue. And then there's the one I can't think of a good term for - the fire-rate over a limited period (or with a limited ammunition supply) which is about 16 shots over a minute, but would drop the longer the time (or the more arrows) to closer to the sustained-fire rate as the advantage of starting loaded becomes less and less of a factor. In an actual engagement (ignoring fatigue and ammo supply) the first minute might see 16 shots fired, but subsequent minutes would average 14 shots each. So over 5 minutes you might fire 72 arrows while the experienced archer next to you without the IL fires 80 (or 90 at 18 per minute), but beyond that point, firstly, you have to ask about your ammo supply (100 arrows is already a lot to carry), and secondly fatigue becomes a factor pretty quickly too. Even getting to 5 minutes of sustained rapid fire is a testament to fitness.
@palarious
@palarious 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's a good tactical perspective. There's a huge advantage in the IL if you're starting with it loaded as the first 5-8 shots are so much more rapid. From a prepared position, with box mags or even just spare IL's, you can maintain continuous fire with an assistant, even switching out for relief. Firing on the go is where this becomes the least effective, both in weight and in rate of fire in a prolonged engagement.
@scottskene8387
@scottskene8387 4 жыл бұрын
Shad's proud sincerity killed me; " I shall call my enchanted land by a name that will fully embody its magnificence. I shall call it 'Brooklyn'." XD
@Fraus2610
@Fraus2610 4 жыл бұрын
the Brooklyn/Brookland thing just got me dead laughing my ass off.
@Broockle
@Broockle 4 жыл бұрын
The BrookRealm
@TerminusTartaros
@TerminusTartaros 4 жыл бұрын
3 Instances I think the instant Legolas would have great advantages: Ambush situations in which you try overpower an army or take out as many as possible and retreat. Shooting from behind cover on a Castle down at enemy archers or soldiers who try to bring siege weapons or ladders close to the walls. shooting on horseback. In some kind of hit and run maneuver.
@picollojr9009
@picollojr9009 4 жыл бұрын
Fire cover: Laying down firepower to harass enemy lines to soften them up, to counter the reload, put a countermarch rank of 3 or more archers
@a.s.239
@a.s.239 4 жыл бұрын
Not sure how useful horseback would be. You get, at most, 6 shots, and reloading would be more difficult. So you either get one run at the target (which means you're probably moving fast, losing accuracy, and likely making you less effective, especially as any follow up charge is basically voided by the reload time) or you reserve your bolts, which means you don't need the rapid shot capability, which means you don't need the IL. That said, I could see an ambush situation working very well. I'd bet with some co-ordination and training you'd make a dozen men feel like many more.
@TheNeilBlack
@TheNeilBlack 4 жыл бұрын
@@a.s.239 On Horseback you would close in, fire your 4-6 shots, then fall back to reload. Your goal is to fire a bunch of shots in a very short period then fall back out of the enemy's range. IL is great for a quick burst fire like that.
@Nibleswick
@Nibleswick 4 жыл бұрын
There was a type of shield that crossbow men would carry that had stakes on the bottom so that they could stick it in the ground and take cover behind it as they reloaded. I expect Silbow men would do the same.
@TheNeilBlack
@TheNeilBlack 4 жыл бұрын
@@Nibleswick A pavise. It would be very useful for IL bowmen.
@benholroyd5221
@benholroyd5221 4 жыл бұрын
Asha looks like hes trying to rock the latest hipster fashion. Lumberjack shirts? so passe, this season its gambeson
@MuraCasardis
@MuraCasardis 4 жыл бұрын
CHADiversity rocking that brigandine again
@LarryGarfieldCrell
@LarryGarfieldCrell 4 жыл бұрын
Shad: "... It's my brother." Me: "Oh crap, it's another family episode." Was not disappointed. :-)
@joshuaizly5502
@joshuaizly5502 4 жыл бұрын
Not going to lie, I was expecting Jazza until he said not the one you're thinking of. Never heard of this brother until now
@giand2155
@giand2155 4 жыл бұрын
What a fun video. The chemistry and clear fun being had is infectious and a joy to watch. It’s always wonderful seeing people loving what they’re doing.
@TheSilverOrn
@TheSilverOrn 4 жыл бұрын
Avengers: We are the biggest crossover in history Shad, Jörg, and Tod: HOLD OUR DRINKING HORNS, YOU RAPSCALLIONS!
@friedlemons5201
@friedlemons5201 4 жыл бұрын
Now we just need Skall, Metatron, and Lindybeige to join the fray
@benjamindupaix6425
@benjamindupaix6425 4 жыл бұрын
And you know that nux will want to be in there at some point. Worlds will collide
@andregon4366
@andregon4366 4 жыл бұрын
69 likes. Nice
@ShadowAraun
@ShadowAraun 4 жыл бұрын
@@benjamindupaix6425 "I made history youtubers dub scenes from "historical" anime"
@Haran400
@Haran400 4 жыл бұрын
@@friedlemons5201 That would be awesome.
@leifcian4288
@leifcian4288 4 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't replace the standard bow, there would probably be specialist units for ambush, skirmish and shock maneuvers when flanking perhaps or covering if your battle lines starting to get to thin. Seems like it would be more advantageous at critical moments, more medium to close range.
@MadMagzB
@MadMagzB 4 жыл бұрын
Shad, you're adorable with your medieval passion. You get so focused you forget well known cities in our era.
@goosegirl941
@goosegirl941 4 жыл бұрын
Shad I just want to let you know you’re enthusiasm and joy are so infectious, your videos just brighten up my day to no end 💕
@benjamindupaix6425
@benjamindupaix6425 4 жыл бұрын
I love the hilarious rapport that shad has with his brother. It's so typical for a good family to have such a good relationship even later in life.
@Interceptor
@Interceptor 4 жыл бұрын
How about dropping the B and naming it Rooklyn/Rookland? (The rook is chess' "castle", after all.) 🤣
@peakeythebard1454
@peakeythebard1454 4 жыл бұрын
You might be joking but thats actually good
@Interceptor
@Interceptor 4 жыл бұрын
@@peakeythebard1454 At least half joking, but it *could* work, depending on how serious or punny name Shad wants. 😉
@109Rage
@109Rage 4 жыл бұрын
That's actually what I thought he said on first hearing. xD
@darak1455
@darak1455 4 жыл бұрын
@@Interceptor I literally was thinking that lol
@XBullitt16X
@XBullitt16X 4 жыл бұрын
I thought thats what he called it initially, thats what it sounded like haha.
@ancient_1415
@ancient_1415 4 жыл бұрын
Is nobody going to congratulate shad on being so close to 1 million subs. Way to go shad👍
@thewhiteknight9923
@thewhiteknight9923 4 жыл бұрын
You know, it's so wonderful to see siblings get along like these two. I'm glad you and your siblings aren't at one another's throats Shad☺️☺️☺️
@annualleopard3063
@annualleopard3063 4 жыл бұрын
U cant fool me I know your just holding a crossbow sideways
@hourhour103
@hourhour103 4 жыл бұрын
Annual Leopard Holy Shit lmao
@samulisiirala
@samulisiirala 4 жыл бұрын
That’s how they hold ’em in Brooklyn!
@thatHARVguy
@thatHARVguy 4 жыл бұрын
@@samulisiirala Gangsta style. Yo!
@kyomademon453
@kyomademon453 4 жыл бұрын
Nobles and their extravagant toys -every medieval peasant ever
@redhulk5542
@redhulk5542 4 жыл бұрын
Love your energy Shad. You are a different man then you were what 8 months ago pre surgery. Keep it up mate
@LadyBirdieBop
@LadyBirdieBop 4 жыл бұрын
The moment when he realizes... “You mean like New York?” What about Shadlund?
@Ciperilla
@Ciperilla 4 жыл бұрын
Idea for how the Legolas would be practical: - Use a Lighter bow - Increase the capacity (6-8 or more if possible) The intention being that you load it beforehand, unload a quick arrow storm, take cover/run away to reload. That makes it ideal for skirmishing, ambushes, countering charges, siege defense/offense (ladder rushes, etc). The lighter bow is to reduce weight and size, allow extra ammo capacity, and also allow less trained people to use it. Maybe even dragoon style formations? Ride to a good spot, dismount, arrow storm, re-mount, ride away.
@jackvos8047
@jackvos8047 4 жыл бұрын
From the sounds of the video you'd probably wanna do something about the bolts too. Lighten those up a bit too if you're going for a lighter bow.
@AngDavies
@AngDavies 4 жыл бұрын
another: not spending all arrows in a clip avoiding that tricky first arrow, and allowing you to go straight to loading them in all at once. Like in a gas operated gun where you have to spend time cycling the action manually if you spend all the bullets vs leaving one in the chamber. easier to keep track of than a handgun, just fut fut fut, reload 3, fut fut fut, reload 3, etc, he took like ~5 second to load that first one vs ~8 for the remaining 3.
@IrishCarney
@IrishCarney 3 жыл бұрын
Thing is, an ordinary bow would be lighter, if you're trying to save weight. And these demonstrations seem to show that you can let off an arrow storm with a regular bow just about as quickly
@carlwilliams9642
@carlwilliams9642 4 жыл бұрын
Shad: "I've got a great original name for my land. Brooklyn!" Every American: "ummm"
@ARandomCustodian
@ARandomCustodian 4 жыл бұрын
I live in Brooklyn. Let’s Go
@birubu
@birubu 4 жыл бұрын
New... Brooklyn?
@NukeMarine
@NukeMarine 4 жыл бұрын
It's Brookland! Completely different, I swear guys!
@galois6569
@galois6569 4 жыл бұрын
Not just Americans. I think most people in the world have heard of Brooklyn.
@Dino01__
@Dino01__ 4 жыл бұрын
Well, Brooklyn was named Breuckelen before the Americans bought the New Netherlands. Breukelen is a town in the Netherlands. Not very original in itself.
@pluepaste6341
@pluepaste6341 4 жыл бұрын
LET ME SHOW YOU ITS FEATURES
@BlueLegion
@BlueLegion 4 жыл бұрын
*Maniacal laughter*
@sealo97
@sealo97 4 жыл бұрын
Loved seeing shad really enjoying himself with his brother really made me smile and I laughed my head of at ‘brookland’ 🤣
@fischkopp1234
@fischkopp1234 4 жыл бұрын
The crossbow was often referred to as a weapon of city and wall defence, due to its longer reload time and shorter range, but higher penetrating power. The SIL would be good as a tool to shoot a first salvo of arrows in a short time in huge numbers, but if you're a bowman or crossbowman on a battlefield, you're already in the wrong place when you have to shoot as many arrows as fast as possible, because that indicates that you're too close to the enemy and you're most likely not as heavily armoured and armed as them, and not as well trained and experienced in melee combat. I think the SIL would be good to accompany the crossboy in city and wall defence and to help weaker people shoot stronger bows, but its use on the open battlefield is uncertain.
@buzzkrieger3913
@buzzkrieger3913 4 жыл бұрын
Bowmen weren't out of place on the battlefield nor necessarily unfamiliar with melee. The outlier English doctrine was to use archers on the flanks to funnel enemies into the men-at-arms and then encircle as appropriate.
@matthiuskoenig3378
@matthiuskoenig3378 4 жыл бұрын
not all crossbows had a shorter range only lighter crossbows, medium-range crossbows had similar range and heavier crossbows had longer range [in terms of max range]. aditionally they had corresponding penetrating power, a crossbow with a similar range to a longbow will have a similar penetrating power. AND crossbows were easier to aim and thus had greater accurate shooting range (what is needed during a siege), which combined with being more compact and the ability to wait for someone to pop into your 'sights' is the reason all european armies used crossbows in sieges (that and children can reload them) they were not however just city and wall defense, they were used extensively in field battles, more extensively than longbows, and in many armies more extensively than any other type of non-noble soldiers.
@buzzkrieger3913
@buzzkrieger3913 4 жыл бұрын
@@matthiuskoenig3378 no crossbows did not have anywhere near equivalency in range to longbow with goatsfoot, stirrup, or cranaquin cocking mechanisms. Crechy showed even the famed Genoese double armed full crank crossbows handled by experienced troops had neither the range nor the RoF. They faired no better over the next 50 years of battles, it went so badly the French attempted to switch to longbows until the two states stopped fighting. Secondary issues withe crossbows involve their difficulty in dealing with inclement weather and greater maintenance logistics equating to about 12%.5 of the fighting force compared to a bow company. Crossbows simply have a lower entry level skill and training requirement, this doesn't equate to _better_ when in the hands of silled and trained users. Sure, in a SIEGE you can have bigger, less portable crossbows you didn't get in the field and inclemency can be mitigated, but children wouldn't be reloading them; those cranks take quite a lot of effort. The greater use in European battles didn't arise from it being a better weapon platform, it arose because very few battlefield archers were trained outside of the Kingdom of England and different doctrines were employed. The SIL only needs to match range with a Genoese crank crossbow, puncture soft armour and its secured it's place on the battlefield. It can even do those movie volleys. The results from the testing so far show the next round definitely needs to in comparison to crossbows as the metalworking skill needed is noticably lower.
@MonkeyJedi99
@MonkeyJedi99 4 жыл бұрын
I commented this point on Tod's video where Joe was shooting, but I posit that the 90 degree rotation of the hand is a large part of what makes the draw 'feel' heavier to someone who is used to having the hand in the same line as the string. Your brother and Jeorg help demonstrate this in that they are not training to draw the string normally, so the muscle memory is not working against them.
@codymccormick7317
@codymccormick7317 4 жыл бұрын
They say when an instant legolas is fired, there's a huge booming laugh in the distance, and if you hold it up to your ear you can faintly hear "Let me show you it's features!"
@ZLemons
@ZLemons 4 жыл бұрын
I was a little confused at first. "I'm gonna invite my brother" ah. Jazza!, oh? Not Jazza? Huh? Is that the guy who made it? No? Thats his other brother? What?!
@Boom__6678
@Boom__6678 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@ShurikenSean
@ShurikenSean 4 жыл бұрын
"what makes you so special?" Captain America: "nothing, I'm just a kid from brooklyn."
@NwoDispatcher
@NwoDispatcher 4 жыл бұрын
impossible ... he's too white
@zoyo8903
@zoyo8903 4 жыл бұрын
When the video started, my first reaction was "Holy shit he's lost a lot of weight!" Glad to see you taking care of yourself in these times, Shad! Way to go, you look good!
@miguelsuarez-solis5027
@miguelsuarez-solis5027 4 жыл бұрын
My biggest criticism of the this device is that the draw handle is horizontal instead of vertical... If it were vertical, it would be much much closer to how an archer is used to drawing a bow in terms of hand position and muscles used
@sethbettwieser
@sethbettwieser 4 жыл бұрын
I think that Joe made the comment that it's less stressful on your hand to hold it sideways that far back.
@miguelsuarez-solis5027
@miguelsuarez-solis5027 4 жыл бұрын
@@sethbettwieser maybe but I remember Todd saying that it changes entirely how to pull the bow back because you're using a totally different set of muscles
@anlize3422
@anlize3422 4 жыл бұрын
Shad, I said something on Tod's video that might address your idea on "who and when" top use the IL. Instead of being used like a "normal" bow, how about trying to think of it like the matchlock rifles(Segoku Jidai reference to the way Oda Nobunaga used the rifles against the Takeda cavalry)? You place a row or archers firing these, when they empty it out, a new row of archers with the IL moves forward to shoot, the first row falls back to reload, the second row shoots til empty, fall back, a third row moves forward and so on. Until the first row is reloaded and can move forward again to shoot. I know this might sound overly complicated, but I was thinking on the point that Jeorg made about logistics and how to force the logistic side to suit the weapon. That way, you can have massive suppressive fire without the "need" to reload. Granted, if you have a clip of bolts it kills the idea but that would add another layer of complexity. Just my 2 cents.
@idontwanttoputmyname403
@idontwanttoputmyname403 4 жыл бұрын
Volley fire like you're talking about was a pretty widespread technique, it's certainly plausible.
@boygenius538_8
@boygenius538_8 4 жыл бұрын
This was done with muskets
@mabo2469
@mabo2469 4 жыл бұрын
@@boygenius538_8 why not why IL
@havtor007
@havtor007 4 жыл бұрын
If people started to do this, people would revert back to guerrilla tactics faster or you would see armour to defend against that when moving forward. Remember the reason why that tactic worked with muskets is that people were not generally using much armour anymore. So it would depend on when you are thinking about this and also where and what the people fighting it has access to of things. Remember armour and weapon is a package deal, not just one becomes important and the others fall to the side.
@ImperialGuard322nd
@ImperialGuard322nd 4 жыл бұрын
@@havtor007 well, that all depends on how well the IL can even penetrate armour. The reason armour fell out of use was specifically because the muskets were so much better than bows and crossbows at punching through armour and taking down horses. That actually may be something that Shad may want to test.
@crozraven
@crozraven 4 жыл бұрын
Shad just keep breaking stuffs that he got sent over. I guess it's kinda indeed a genuine foolproof test 😂 lol
@jorikrouwenhorst7220
@jorikrouwenhorst7220 4 жыл бұрын
*Shad’s neighbour looks through hole in fence* *Sees instant Legolas and nearly chokes on drink* *drops to floor and starts crawling to the backdoor* *Wife looks at him confused* Neighbour: Get back inside and close the doors and windows, he has that thing again”.
@pRahvi0
@pRahvi0 4 жыл бұрын
@nickyiil This is getting out of hand. Now there are two of them!!
@ae7262
@ae7262 4 жыл бұрын
Completely unrelated but you're looking slimmer Shad! Running Brooklyn has been doing you well
@musikSkool
@musikSkool 4 жыл бұрын
I could see it working for a few strongmen of the group to have helpers refilling multiple machines. A couple dozen of these big guys could defend a key location on the battlefield, like taking out cavalry that get too close, holding a bridge, standing in the middle of the road so the incoming army has to go through the mud to advance. Maybe even firing 2 or 3 smaller arrows with each shot at invaders trying to take a castle.
@bl4cksp1d3r
@bl4cksp1d3r 4 жыл бұрын
Brookland lol. That was a gold moment when you realised it sounds so close to Brooklyn :D
@extra4003
@extra4003 4 жыл бұрын
Is it only me or does shad look slimmer and even more energetic now?? I'm glad to see that he's doing good 👍🏽
@gonesnake2337
@gonesnake2337 4 жыл бұрын
It's not just you. I noticed it right away.
@jtbwilliams
@jtbwilliams 4 жыл бұрын
Not been this early before...; I guess you could say the notification was INSTANT...
@connorsproles9239
@connorsproles9239 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of people have noted that this would be good for ambushes, mounted archers, or siege defense, but I also think it has another use. That is gaining fire superiority over another group of archers. Assume you could train your IL archers to have the same accuracy as a normal one, you crush enemies during the opening salvo. Because you can essentially do a mag dump you could kill a lot of enemy archers before they have fired most of their ammo. Meaning that even if the long reload makes the rate of fire even up on paper, the rate of fire for the whole unit would be far higher. A normal archer unit would have a consistent damage out put, while an SL team would do large bursts of fire. Meaning, that the other team's rate of fire would drop all at once due to casualties. Because the initial salvo would give the IL a clear advantage, it is possible (at least in my mind) that in a battle of two groups of equal size the IL team would win. Also, I think that you could operate this weapon with modern~ish tactics. Remember, humans fight in groups, not alone. If an IL team developed tactics similar to a squad equipped with m1 Grands from ww2 then they could have near continuous fire; the second guy waits for the first to shoot 1 arrow before shooting, the 3rd guy 2, the 4th guy 3 and so on. As long as your squad has more men than arrows in the IL (or however long it takes to reload) then you could continuously fire. Anyway just my two cents. I am exited to see the Joerg bow become a real thing. I've watched this project from Joerg's first video, and to see it become a mainstream thing is awesome! Can't wait to see future video, see ya later!
@miyama8936
@miyama8936 4 жыл бұрын
They could also do reloads like for crossbow men, one shoots and two others reload, hand a loaded one and take the empty one, while the third is already half way loaded. That way they could double their firepower, bc servants were very easy to get and the reloading isn't really complicated.
@andreasbuder4417
@andreasbuder4417 4 жыл бұрын
Nevermind, I replied to the wrong comment.
@jackvos8047
@jackvos8047 4 жыл бұрын
Wonder how easy/hard it would be to draw this while mounted.
@miyama8936
@miyama8936 4 жыл бұрын
@@jackvos8047 If it is mounted, then it would be very easy to draw, bc you can pull with both arms and lean back to keep it at the ready, or you could even make an a little bit more complex mechanism that keeps the bow fully drawn like a crossbow, but at this piont you could just use a crossbow.
@kac7857
@kac7857 4 жыл бұрын
Soldier: The enemies are about to storm the throneroom. Doors crack, bunch of soldiers runs through it, battle cries on their mouths Guy with instant legolas that showed up out of nowhere: Supresing FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIREEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!
@kingrichardiii6280
@kingrichardiii6280 4 жыл бұрын
I just love how proud shad was in naming his land Brooklyn only to find out about Brooklyn in New York City.
@eeeeee3972
@eeeeee3972 4 жыл бұрын
I don't need sleep, I need answers
@riesenfliegefly7139
@riesenfliegefly7139 4 жыл бұрын
So late over there ? I had the video released at 3pm
@eeeeee3972
@eeeeee3972 4 жыл бұрын
@@riesenfliegefly7139 it's around 7 in the morning, haven't slept yet
@riesenfliegefly7139
@riesenfliegefly7139 4 жыл бұрын
@@eeeeee3972 oof
@ryanlorenzo5003
@ryanlorenzo5003 4 жыл бұрын
I don't need sleep, I need sleep.
@leone.6190
@leone.6190 4 жыл бұрын
​@@riesenfliegefly7139 Tja, wir leben halt quasi auf der anderen Seite der Welt. :D Dir ein Schönes (Bei der Hitze einigermaßen erträgliches) Wochenende.
@twistedpivoter2695
@twistedpivoter2695 4 жыл бұрын
"this is the stress test phase" *Laughs in forged in fire*
@VoidedEmptiness
@VoidedEmptiness 4 жыл бұрын
I would like Shad to revisit the god of war axe carrying hook, he should have done this with the carrying hook for the axe to be on a harness rather than a single strap, since the strap tends to shift the hook around his body, it would have been better if the hook was attached to a harness so it would be more secure and to the body. For the axe to be held more securely, it would have been better if the hook went a little up, like it has the ends of the hook bended up so it could allow for the axe wielded to jump without the axe having an easier time of falling out of the hook. I think a design such as that would have been more viable than what he had originally designed.
@ShadowWolfTJC
@ShadowWolfTJC 4 жыл бұрын
So many episodes on the Instant Legolas have been made by you, JoergSprave, and Tod's Workshop that perhaps someone ought to organize them all into a playlist in chronological order to help viewers keep track of where in time each of these videos were, along with how all the discussion about this "invention" has evolved over time.
@sayx
@sayx 4 жыл бұрын
You could hunt dozens of plates of spaghetti bolognese with that thing...
@hylianro
@hylianro 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@cosmoreverb3943
@cosmoreverb3943 4 жыл бұрын
But what if I wanted shepards pie?
@bowmanc.7439
@bowmanc.7439 4 жыл бұрын
josh327 Easy. You lure a shepherd in with ewe, kill him, and make the pie.
@mrkisawesome7669
@mrkisawesome7669 4 жыл бұрын
Lorenzo Panza It is a joke from a podcast Shad has been on called EFAP.
@lordforce5546
@lordforce5546 4 жыл бұрын
As a kid I liked bows, and when I was playing I always shot on the right side without anyone telling me what side I should shoot on, it just felt more natural to child me
@AethyrPrime
@AethyrPrime 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget squires for bowman. If an archer was handing off his spent bow to be reloaded, then...
@dracohunter117
@dracohunter117 4 жыл бұрын
I freaking love shad, that Brookland but was my favorite thing I’ve seen all week. XD
@Blizz3112
@Blizz3112 4 жыл бұрын
We need more content as this on KZbin... good fun with no politics involved...
@BobTheLost
@BobTheLost 4 жыл бұрын
I see the Instant Legolas being used in 3 general areas: 1) mounted archery to ride in and burst, then pull back and reload, 2) environments with cover (urban/buildings, fortifications, maybe forests, maybe with pavise kinda shields), 3) guerrilla warfare or in ambushes so you can use fewer people to burst large amounts of bolts/arrows. Also if this were being used in formations, you could easily divide the shooters up into 2 or 3 waves to keep part of the formation always firing. Alternatively, have 1 person reloading and 1 person shooting. Probably most of the strategies for crossbow or musket combat would likely be applicable to the IL. Honestly, training and slight modifications can probably bring the IL usage in line with normal longbow use for overall speed, but the thing that would worry me about something like this is the maintenance to keep them firing. You know a peasant/common soldier is likely to do something to damage the trigger or spring mechanisms and won't have the know how to do a field repair to keep it firing. Sure they can take off the IL to just use the bow, but if they are carrying special/shorter bolts meant for the IL, they might not have any normal arrows to fire.
@SpeargrassForge
@SpeargrassForge 4 жыл бұрын
Anti seige weapon. Imagine being upon the walls, you have the crenel's as cover and more than one "IL archer" especially as the attacking force attempts to breach or climb the walls, that burst or speed could be advantageous.
@BobTheLost
@BobTheLost 4 жыл бұрын
@@SpeargrassForge That basically falls under environments with cover, where you'd have something to duck behind between firings to reload. With pavise shields or similar, it could also work as a siege weapon to lay down suppressing fire as ladders, siege towers, battering ram or whatever else you are going to use to breach fortifications in an assault gets closer to said fortifications. Though that application depends on the fortifications being assaulted, as things like machicolations could negate the effectiveness of suppressing fire to a large degree.
@matthewjarocki6089
@matthewjarocki6089 4 жыл бұрын
The thing about reloading is any fool can do it. So in a siege you can have a skilled archer shooting and an arrow boy reloading. Or if someone thinks about how to make a clip easy to load. The real issue is fatigue. How many times can a skilled archer go through a clip of bolts before his arm gives out?
@BobTheLost
@BobTheLost 4 жыл бұрын
@@matthewjarocki6089 While fatigue would be an issue for long term combat, due to potential ammo consumption, I see the IL being mostly a burst weapon being used during critical periods of combat: initial strikes, covering fire as your troops do something that might be crucial to your victory (i.e. suppressing the enemy as they climb ladders) or similar. Also, if you replace the arrow boy with a soldier who is also trained to use the IL, you can potentially get more clips of bolts out of the duo: after X clips, they switch, or if the first guy reaches a certain fatigue level they switch. On the whole, I'd still be worried about the maintenance aspect, because you know that if they drop it at that one special angle onto the ground, they'll somehow manage to break the trigger or drop it into mud and somehow mess the spring or something up and will either be lacking parts or know-how to fix it, or won't realize they gotta knock the mud out of it for it to work.
@christophercunningham3679
@christophercunningham3679 4 жыл бұрын
I am liking this line of though. Think front line infantry with a little training. A row of IL at the front with the next few rows reloading, Mow down the charging troupes with a hail of short range fast fire. If the charge does not break just before contact the IL line moves to the back row as reinforcements or drops IL and raises a shield wall to take the hit.
@overlordbloodscorn568
@overlordbloodscorn568 4 жыл бұрын
First he showed the land... Now he shows the range weapon... He's going to siege castles!! I knew it XD
@MrKOLCOO
@MrKOLCOO 4 жыл бұрын
I am still waiting for the dragon slaying.
@overlordbloodscorn568
@overlordbloodscorn568 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed 😂 but tbh I think that if shad has build his castles and rents it to a reanactment or life action roleplay community he can get alot of ppl on his land that live in midievel style and fights and so he can get money for his castles and have his shadiversian people under his banner and maybe give his brother the other castle and you would have 2 brothers to fight for 😂🏰🏰
@xadielplasencia3674
@xadielplasencia3674 4 жыл бұрын
Was that ever a question?
@josephburchanowski4636
@josephburchanowski4636 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrKOLCOO Ah yes, the age old question. "But what about Dragons?!"
@MrKOLCOO
@MrKOLCOO 4 жыл бұрын
@@josephburchanowski4636 Jarl Shad, there was dragon spotted near Brooklyn...
@RainMakeR_Workshop
@RainMakeR_Workshop 4 жыл бұрын
Huh... Didn't know there was a third brother. WHERE IS HIS KZbin CHANNEL??? lol
@serp0unce
@serp0unce 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't he say he had like 20 siblings?
@RainMakeR_Workshop
@RainMakeR_Workshop 4 жыл бұрын
@@serp0unce and if so, they ALL need a channel lol.
@yuritrasimaco5201
@yuritrasimaco5201 4 жыл бұрын
@@serp0unce poor shadmama so
@PaletoB
@PaletoB 4 жыл бұрын
@@serp0unce Good, he needs warriors (and servants) in all his castles. 😂 And then they can have a civil war for who should be king.
@nresiti
@nresiti 4 жыл бұрын
@@yuritrasimaco5201 is Shadman his brother too? XD
@traviscecil3903
@traviscecil3903 4 жыл бұрын
When you reload, can you take a knee and rest the bow, on it's side with loading port up, across your forward knee? Might help keep the set stable and less prone to move on you as you load. Also.....Brookshire.
@DocNo27
@DocNo27 4 жыл бұрын
"We shall use my larger scales" Sorry, had a giggle when you were talking about the scales. Love the video series!
@shanedonovan1245
@shanedonovan1245 4 жыл бұрын
"medieval engineahs were wicked smaht" -Tour guide at the Brookland castles probably.
@SharmClucas
@SharmClucas 4 жыл бұрын
In my head while reading that, the brooklyn and australian accents combined and it sounds really strange.
@lamia197
@lamia197 4 жыл бұрын
Shad did you show your brother the machicolations? It is very important.
@sgtreznov6525
@sgtreznov6525 4 жыл бұрын
That moment when legolas gets his hands on an instant legolas. "Im super legolas."
@septegram
@septegram 4 жыл бұрын
Legolas^2
@Doomcharger
@Doomcharger 4 жыл бұрын
Okay but what about Legolas firing an instant legolas that fires an instant legolas?
@TheKennethfilm
@TheKennethfilm 4 жыл бұрын
To go even further beyond.
@sgtreznov6525
@sgtreznov6525 4 жыл бұрын
@@Doomcharger ascendant legolas
@PHKJ
@PHKJ 4 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that the instant legolas loading system wasn't designed for maximum speed and I'm sure a rework could reduce the reload time.
@lostmarimo
@lostmarimo 4 жыл бұрын
In my mind it's starting to look more and more like something a guard would use. If you have 5 arrows in the mag and you are just standing there then maybe it is better than a bow that you have to manual load the first arrow before becoming a threat. If someone is approaching you could even draw the bow and hold it with ease with the handle thus having a threat against the person approaching while you try to figure out if they are the enemy or not. Or waiting in ambush for someones carriage where you need to quickly take out some guards.
@williamnield7133
@williamnield7133 4 жыл бұрын
i love the instant legalos and the maker
@vuxigeck5281
@vuxigeck5281 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, yes, the instant Legolas. Truly the pinnacle of medieval technology.
@deplorablemecoptera3024
@deplorablemecoptera3024 4 жыл бұрын
I've got a great name I just came up with "Australia" you see it comes from the Latin for southern, and the property is south of where I am right now.
@snubby1231
@snubby1231 4 жыл бұрын
Holy cow man, I've watched your videos periodically over the last few years, the last video I saw you were talking about getting surgery (or something like that) and coming back now you look freaking great man, you look so healthy and happy. Whatever it was must have worked out!! Great work!
@Maxakari
@Maxakari 4 жыл бұрын
This video with your brother helping was fun, and having another person made the tests more informative I think. Especially because it let the legolas be tested by someone who wasn't as into archery and stuff as most of the people in these kinds of test videos we see. This could actually let us see him get better with practice, which might give some insight on how much practice would improve using the instant legolas with someone who maybe doesn't have bow training, and would use an instant legolas rather than a normal bow.
@joshuasymington5609
@joshuasymington5609 4 жыл бұрын
It makes me laugh that my phone is telling me that this was posted 6 mins ago and then the comments were from 10 mins ago
@Nesymafdet
@Nesymafdet 4 жыл бұрын
That’s because the video was unlisted lol
@theMindwalker
@theMindwalker 4 жыл бұрын
I'd imagine if they did have the instant version in the earlier days--going into battle, or carrying it around, I'd think it would already be loaded. Like a gun. Going into battle you don't load rounds in, nor do you load rounds in on patrol...or on guard. You'd have to deal with guys who have 5 shots ready as oppose to 1. Personally (for whatever it's worth) to test accurately, I'd fire off the initial volley, load, and fire again. I would think that would be one of the benefits--having 5 arrows ready to go without having to load. And, you know how in the movies where they have archers just holding the bow, arrow pulled back as the antagonist and protagonist banter? They could actually hold the arrow in place for a long time, unlike in reality where the strain would become increasingly difficult...
@mastersystem322
@mastersystem322 4 жыл бұрын
I just took my thing off the charger and as soon as I turned it on, I get the notification and instant click.
@lazilexi
@lazilexi 4 жыл бұрын
The Brooks family is expanding before our eyes. First Jazza, then Shad, now Asher (? I didn't hear it very well). Can't wait for bring your daughter to work day where we will find out he has a full brood of childeren!
@Captain_Hapton
@Captain_Hapton 4 жыл бұрын
What do you get when you take a non-machine washable gambison, an outdoor setting, and an Australian summer? A very good laugh from an older brother.
Something VERY STRANGE about this 120lb LONGBOW
25:18
Shadiversity
Рет қаралды 183 М.
Secrets of the Medieval Longbow / Warbow: MEDIEVAL MISCONCEPTIONS
27:40
How To Choose Mac N Cheese Date Night.. 🧀
00:58
Jojo Sim
Рет қаралды 101 МЛН
СКОЛЬКО ПАЛЬЦЕВ ТУТ?
00:16
Masomka
Рет қаралды 3,6 МЛН
Instant Legolas assist challenge - RESULTS!
14:32
Tod's Workshop
Рет қаралды 130 М.
How many weapons could an adventurer really carry? Feat: Kyle Hill
29:14
Roman Plumbata - In the hands of a Pro Thrower!
11:29
Tod's Workshop
Рет қаралды 578 М.
Historian & Armor Expert Reacts to Total War: Warhammer 3
25:21
PROOF! Perfect ARROW flight with the IMPOSSIBLE DRAW!!
32:42
Shadiversity
Рет қаралды 124 М.
Shut up now, critics! Medieval Instant Legolas.
29:04
JoergSprave
Рет қаралды 412 М.
Why didn't medieval people wear SWORDS on their BACK?
45:36
Shadiversity
Рет қаралды 470 М.