Medium & Large ALICE pack, Review and setup by Brent0331

[@Brent0331]

**Here's a few links to good deals on Sportsman’s guide on ALICE related gear:** **USE COUPON CODE: SH2140 for FREE SHIPPING on orders over $49. Expires 9/30/19** TWO 1 quart canteens with covers: bit.ly/2yZMxjF TWO 2 quart canteens with covers & GP straps: bit.ly/2z2x16O SAW pouch (Great General purpose pouch): bit.ly/2PSyPdO THREE ALICE Small arms pouches (hold 3 mags each): bit.ly/2OX4wCl TWO ALICE IFAK pouches w/ boxes: bit.ly/2MlFPx8 USGI folding E-tool w/ cover: bit.ly/2O2PXuL Just the ALICE E-tool cover: bit.ly/2OdFsFd TWO Rubberized water proofing bags (WP bag): bit.ly/2Mgq3nb ONE used but cheaper WP bag: bit.ly/2H7VlIM ONE Current issue small WP bag (fits good in ALICE pack exterior pouches): bit.ly/2yYXouc FOUR (same as above) of the smaller WP bags: bit.ly/2Z7Rz8q SIX ALICE cargo straps (for strapping gear onto the frame itself): bit.ly/2OSnlWX TEN USGI general purpose straps (for 2 QT canteen): bit.ly/2HalwhV MOLLE Sustainment pouch in Multicam Attach to the side of your ALICE pack: bit.ly/2z3aOVW ISO mat: bit.ly/2Z5Tn1J USGI sleeping bag compression bag: bit.ly/2z14nCR ALICE belt: bit.ly/2Hmn48T M65 field jack liner: bit.ly/2QeITxZ Jerry can: bit.ly/2OWzH0s Spout for the Jerry can: bit.ly/2P0sf4k 300 Ft of 550 Cord: bit.ly/2KLADj2 12x12 USGI Nylon netting (good for ghillie suits): bit.ly/2KWfCSx **Guys, Primary Arms is hooking up my subscribers! If you want to get FREE shipping and a free gift such as a FREE or discounted (depending on which scope) scope mount for the variable scopes, or a free anti-reflection device for the prisms optics, just follow the links I have posted below on the scope of your choice. YOU MUST follow these links or you will not get the free or discounted mount/anti-reflection device and free shipping from the standard Primary Arms website.** PA CYCLOPS 1X PRISM (BLACK): bit.ly/2BREKZn PA CYCLOPS 1X PRISM (COYOTE/FDE): bit.ly/2BRfhiX PA Advanced Micro Dot w/ push button: bit.ly/2LX39Nd PA Advanced Micro Dot w/ rotary knob bit.ly/2CjTCjr PA Micro dot (Budget red dot) bit.ly/2xPK6j2 Holosun HS503G RDS W/ ACSS bit.ly/2r7gCd3 PA 3X Magnifier bit.ly/2r3XAV2 GG&G flip to side magnifier mount: bit.ly/2EN5uv3 PA 1-6X24 FFP ACSS RAPTOR 5.56 / 5.45 / .308 BLACK bit.ly/2jW0V4O PA-1-6X24 FFP ACSS RAPTOR 5.56 / 5.45 / .308 WOLF GRAY bit.ly/2IidvtX PA 1-6 FFP ACSS RAPTOR 7.62x39 / 300 Blk out bit.ly/2IIAnC5 PA 1-8 PLATINUM FFP RAPTOR 5.56 bit.ly/2zqXYBo PA 3X Compact Prsim Scope ACSS 5.56 GEN II (Black) bit.ly/2OzAQqA PA 3X Compact Prism Scope ACSS 5.56 GEN II (Coyote) bit.ly/2OAEekN PA 3X Compact Prism Scope ACSS 7.62x39/300 Blkout GEN II (Black) bit.ly/2KdtaXD PA 3X Compact Prism Scope ACSS 7.62x39/300 Blkout GEN II (Coyote) bit.ly/2n3AgVv PA 1-8X Scope with Patented ACSS 5.56 / 5.45 / .308 Reticle bit.ly/2SPbNob PA 1-6X24mm SFP Riflescope with Patented ACSS 5.56 / 5.45 / .308 Reticle Gen III bit.ly/2BD73bB PA 1-6X24mm SFP Riflescope Gen III with K.I.S.S. Reticle bit.ly/2SUbxEo PA 1-6X24mm SFP Riflescope with Patented ACSS 22LR Reticle bit.ly/2N8fj7P PA 1-6X24mm SFP scope w/ACSS 300BLK/ 7.62X39 Reticle bit.ly/2N6Qut9 PA 1-6X24mm SFP Riflescope Gen III with Patented ACSS 22LR Reticle bit.ly/2N8fj7P Trijicon ACOG TA31 4x32 Scope with RED Dual Illumination ACSS Reticle TA31-R-ACSS bit.ly/2EQIMhg Trijicon ACOG TA31 4X32 Scope with RED Dual Illuminated ACSS AURORA RECTICE bit.ly/2T6uZuz Trijicon ACOG TA31 4X32 Scope with GREEN Dual Illuminated ACSS AURORA RECTICE bit.ly/2FRTmIQ Trijicon TA44 ACOG 1.5X16S TALL BASE (GREEN ACSS reticle) bit.ly/2DkC72H Trijicon TA44 ACOG 1.5X16S TALL BASE (RED ACSS reticle) bit.ly/2rdEu1O Trijicon TA44 ACOG 1.5X16S SHORT BASE (GREEN ACSS reticle) bit.ly/2EQge7G Trijicon TA44 ACOG 1.5X16S SHORT BASE (RED ACSS reticle) bit.ly/2FMdLMO Camouflage painting stencils: PA Tiger Stripe Stencil: bit.ly/2Dqzafa PA Multi Terrain pattern stencil: bit.ly/2Izaxkt PA Flecktarn stencil: bit.ly/2DwfMxb PA Digital camouflage stencil: bit.ly/2W0PvOP Great DEAL on Palmetto State Armory lowers to complete this build on a budget! (PLUS, going thru these listed PSA links supports my channel!) M4 style lower for $130 shipped: Black: bit.ly/2F5FRDU OD Green: bit.ly/2IbtcRY Coyote/FDE: bit.ly/2IGuPpV Full size M16A2/A4 style lower ($200): bit.ly/2F5HaCO BIG THANKS to Dimitri and Primary Arms for making this all possible! Also don’t forget to check out and subscribe to Bruce’s channel: kzbin.info/door/wfzznRRdLUHwKiMTND49Jg Also check out my buddy John who is the owner of UW Gear and his KZbin channel at Alpha Charlie concepts: kzbin.info

[@jodywatkins9467]

Hey Brent, I can't seem to find good any OD green web gear for one shepherd, do you know any were I can find some that Isn't to pricey? still have 1 year before I can go tho. Thanks for that and thank you for your service!!!

[@Brent0331]

@@jodywatkins9467 Thanks brother, look at the links I posted you can get a whole alice set for around 40 bucks. bit.ly/2MhYH07

[@StallionOutdoor]

Hey! Good Video, thx Brent! :) What about the FILBE and it's Assault pack as seen in the beginning of the video? Greetings Chris

[@bwana3006]

Brent0331 so in your Professional opinion would you recommend the medium over the large or vice versa

[@jhajararequizo571]

Sir how much the us jungle pack, from Philippines here sir

[@andrewjohnston4127]

I first bought a medium ALICE pack back in 1990 from a surplus store,used it in basic training ( british army ) as we were still using the old 58 pattern webbing along with the totally useless large pack. We were encouraged to buy our own rucksacks and was glad I got one. I used it for years and picked up a frame for it in a PX store in Germany. It went on 3 tours of Bosnia and a tour of kosovo with me and never let me down. 29 years later and I still have it 😊 built to last in my opinion

[@Brent0331]

Awesome story brother, thanks for sharing!

[@joedixon5513]

I tried the PLCE Bergen your army issued, nice ruck but I wound up going back to ALICE myself. Yes they are built to last.

[@andrewjohnston4127]

@@scotiushobius I have both, the large was used for lugging the majority of my kit but day to day I used the medium. It carried everything I needed no problem. The large is good but when it's full it just sits there,like a giant green lump. Get a medium. For the large I'd look at something else ( I went back to using my issue PLCE one)

[@ronaldrobertson2332]

"Alice, you're the greatest!" --Ralph Cramdon

[@themischeifguide]

Oh wow they were still using the old large packs, I wouldn't have guessed they were hanging around. I have 5 of them in my collection never used one though.

[@earthboundmisfit637]

Just get some flex seal spray at Lowe’s or De Pot and spray the in side of the lid to re water proof it did it on mine and works well.

[@Brent0331]

Nice, I'm going to try this out. Thanks for commenting.

[@SurvivalTheory]

Awesome. Do you have an idea how long it will last under normal conditions?

[@finkamain1621]

NOW THAT'S A LOT OF DAMAGE

[@Crusader1097]

That's not a bad idea....hmm

[@zornhed100]

PHIL SWIFT HERE....... We cut this pack in half and put it back together with flex seal :)

[@jayneubauer3401]

Recon Marine from the 80's. We would adjust which ruck we used based on length of mission. Typically we used the medium without the frame, but the large was the most common one we used. They jumped well, carried everything we needed with room left to spare (sometimes....). From 91-2010 I was in the Army Light Infantry, and used my gear from the Marines without fail. Well done and Semper Fi.

[@roryconall645]

The irony is the newest pack for the Corps, the FILBE, has been failing recently. Since folks are beating the war-with-Russia drums again, the Corps has been doing a lot more arctic training in Norway and Alaska, and the plastic frames are snapping in the cold. Supposedly they are bringing out a reinforced version. Wonder how many grunts are just going to use the old LG ALICE? Something a lot of people don't know is that the side pockets on the ALICE packs were tunneled like that to carry your cross country skis for arctic warfare use. Another complaint about the packs is they don't carry heavy weight as well as the new packs. But folks forget that these were designed when grunts mostly walked into combat. THey were supposed to be used along with belt gear, which is where all your heavy stuff, like ammo, grenades, e-tool, canteen, etc were carried, not in the pack. If one wants a milsurp hiking pack, then there is no better than the ILBE, as it's literally an Arc'Teryx Bora 80 hiking pack in MARPAT. Of course, the corps ditched it because it was horrific when wearing armor, making it a crappy combat pack.

[@Brent0331]

Ha yup, spot on comment.

[@WilliamJones-pl2hx]

Wonder how many Grunts will just buy the commercial Alice frames from Tactailor and others and modify their FILBE to fit it?

[@petesheppard1709]

The newer frames were intended to flex with the wearer's movement, to enhance comfort. Of course, flex means fatigue and plastic generally does not like cold.

[@mattalvarez548]

When I joined the Corps, all we had was the alice pack, and i loved it. Eventually, it was replaced with the molle pack which i used in Iraq. I’ve recently re-enlisted after a 9-year break(army this time; too old to go back to the marines) and i use a filbe pack with alice frame and it’s holding up pretty well. I don’t care much for the UCP gear they issue us. As a matter of fact, i buy most of my gear i use in the field.

[@gruntgearreview6490]

Current 0311 here- A lot of dudes use the Alice frame and straps with the new FILBE packs. Personally I use an Alice frame with Tac Tailor straps. I feel that it sits better with body armor vs the new plastic frames. There really isn't any modding to do to the pack IOT use the Alice frame. I just throw in some zip ties to tighten things up here and there and it works great for me.

[@dam1041960]

You are one squared a way marine 0331! You know sh!+ front and back old school and new school. I can see the love of country, corps and men under your charge. Thank you again.

[@Brent0331]

Thanks brother, Semper Fi!

[@jaredwiggins539]

@@Brent0331 if I were 2 get an ALICE (All-Purpose Lightweight Individual Carrying Equipment) Pack I'd rather go with the more Medium Sized 1 since those lighter than the Large Sized!

[@jaredwiggins539]

@@Brent0331 how much of a day bag is Medium ALICE Pack?

[@username689496]

Former Army Officer here...Best damn detailed ALICE system review i have found on KZbin...Thank you.

[@Brent0331]

Thanks for watching and commenting brother.

[@CoolestDude38NC]

Old Eagle Scout here. I have used a lot of backpacks. ALICE packs, civilian internal frame mountaineering packs, external frame backpacks, ultralight backpacks. I first used medium sized ALICE packs in the early eighties. Where I think ALICE packs really shine is when you are going off trail and off road foot travel. Like long distance backpacking off trail using land navigation techniques like compass and large scale topo maps. ALICE packs also really shine when you are humping in extremely rugged terrain where you need to maintain a lower center of gravity to maintain balance...so you can scramble over rocks, logs, etc. Low center of gravity equals safer movement and less chance of ankle sprains, knee injuries. ALICE packs are also just plain bomb proof. If I was going to travel exclusively on trails or roads on the other hand, Id choose a civilian external frame backpack with a big comfortable hio belt where your center of gravity is going to be high.

[@renaissancemarinetv3536]

this video is THE best guide for ALICE packs i have seen.

[@Brent0331]

Thanks brother!

[@JWMR1951]

Great Instructional Video. I'm 68 yrs old and to this day I carry my Large Alice Pack. I have it set up for bug out, bug in, or just as a get home bag. It goes with me anytime and every time I'm in my vehicle. If I need to hump it, it's there for me with all the gear I need to survive for quite sometime. And yes that includes a weapon with plenty of ammo. Again that was a great video.

[@Brent0331]

Thanks brother, I appreciate it. Thanks for commenting and sharing.

[@christopherlarsen7788]

That's the most comprehensive video I've ever seen on the ALICE rucksack. Really appreciated that you included the versatility of the ALICE frame to hump ammo, water, rations, and fuel. There are some impressive rucksacks issued and/or on the market, but I'm not convinced they are as strong, durable, or as versatile as the ALICE medium and large rucksack with frame. Plus, there are so many ways to upgrade and improve this battle proven system! Personally, I have two "Hellcat M-ALICE" by Tactical Tailor with the improved tube frame...but at its very core, it's still nothing but an ALICE rucksack. Brilliant.

[@Brent0331]

Thanks brother, I've been wanting to do this video for a long time. As stupid as it sounds I was actually waiting for ONE clip of me putting a snow pack cover on a alice pack in the snow. I did the one in the desert so I thought it would be cool to have a clip of putting on each cover in its different environment. Problem is it hasn't snowed here in like 3 years! I decided to give up on my snow hopes and just film. Ha

[@CtrlAltRetreat]

@@Brent0331 When mother nature decides not to help, there's not much you can do about it. Thanks for doing this vid though, it convinced me to pick one up. It looks a lot more breathable than the current pack, especially with the frame. My problem with my current pack is how hot my back gets when hiking, it looks like the frame makes it so it only contacts your back at the padding. Is that the case? If so, that's exactly what I'm looking for. How much of a difference in balance and weight is there between medium and large?

[@Brent0331]

@@CtrlAltRetreat There's definitely a "pocket" in between the pad and the top of the pack on your back. I think this is ideal for accommodating gear like a camelbak. The large ALICE is quiet a bit bigger, however its not really that much "heavier" per say. These packs are made out of a tough nylon material that is very light unlike the modern day cordura packs today. These are combat packs though, if weight is the biggest selling point for you you can get a ridiculously light civilian pack that is guaranteed to not hurt a squire if you drop it on it. Those type of packs wont last the rigors of humping and bushwhacking through heavily wooded though.

[@CtrlAltRetreat]

@@Brent0331 Thanks for the response Brent. Everything you've said really reinforces that i should give it a try. I've seen some of those ultralight packs and they make me worry about holes in my pocket book as much as in the pack material if it snags on nearby branches. The pack board is a big deal for me. I always find floppy packs feel much heavier than they are. A pack that i can tighten down onto a frame so and can carry a camel bak sounds fantastic. I think it's worth a shot and a pack frame and shelf is something that would make carrying a Jerry can a few miles a bit less unpleasant. Lord knows i wouldn't want to do that again. Better to have and not need though.

[@farmerwayne1404]

@@CtrlAltRetreat Hey Bud. I have an UL pack called Jam II by Golite. It had cost me around $100 at the time. Its a great framless pack. Has held enough food and h2o plus all of my gear including a bear canister for up to 9 days on the JMT. I usually carry for a 3-5 day trip under 25 lbs. I recently put together an ALICE pack and its a totally a different bird. Much tougher and built with combat in mind. More flexible for all sorts of needs. Plus if you need to use the Jam , at 22 oz you can put it in the Alice pack for urban dress. Best of luck!!

[@sebastianmendez3606]

Current 11B. Right now I've been using a medium alice commo ruck with the longer woodland straps for the field and its awesome. Ive personally found it to be way more comfortable and versatile than the OCP medium ruck. The waist belt doesn't get used because its pretty much pointless. A lot of people don't realize the outer pockets have pass throughs behind them.

[@user-wl1fi2ku9q]

The opening is very funny. I'm a Japanese U.S. Army fan. Learning about the invasion of Grenada. The LC-1 bag is very cool! Thanks for the helpful video !!! Sorry my bad english.

[@Rageingmeatbal]

I love all things Alice. Pistol belt and y suspenders. I use the medium LC2 as my war bag in LE. It’s perfect it won’t allow me to carry to much bullshit like other dudes. Extra clothing essentials in a ranger roll, food, water, meds boorets (bullets), and the most important neck pillow!! Love you Alice!!

[@theonereborn9299]

The only time in my life that im excited to hear "military grade"

[@thatsthewayitgoes9]

ALICE pack tends to hang way back and load weight shifts low. Not conducive to high tight weight center of gravity. You get way more tired and tired quicker with these - especially the ALICE large, than you do with good civilian packs. But they ARE versatile.

[@dongrider9040]

Best Alice vid I have seen. You took time to talk to me and not to talk over me. That made me more comfortable learning about the pack. I have one of each. My military person passed before we could, or he could teach his Pepaw how to use the pack. Now I have the stuff but no place to learn. This was a great help. Thanks.

[@Brent0331]

Awesome brother, I'm glad I could help. Thanks for watching and commenting.

[@devo1785]

I always bring too much crap if I have the large ALICE. Medium is a great pack with tons of room. The frame is also great in hot weather for encouraging air flow over your back.

[@Loonyy22]

The best review and information I have seen period on these rucks. Thanks for taking the time to put this together. Superb.

[@Loonyy22]

Just uploaded a video to secure QR straps on an LC2. Would be interested to hear your thoughts. see my content.

[@christinamoneyhan5688]

Best description and how to information I have ever found on these packs. Thank you.

[@Brent0331]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@eddierodriguez7250]

Brent because of your video I went out and got me an Alice pack and frame and put them together. Took it out on a hike on my vacation to Colorado Springs. I love it! Would you be able to do a video showing what you what pack and how you pack it? Thanks for your vidz and thank you for serving your country! Also thanks for continuing to serve us with you great content. God bless

[@timbumgarner1207]

I spent 25 years on the US Marine Corps and still swear by this pack and still own one. Never had one break from the Artics of Norway and Alaska to the deserts .

[@Brent0331]

👊🦅🌎⚓

[@scottlin7876]

great info. i never did use the alice frame. didn't realize there was alice 1 and alice 2 generations. never realized the top lid had velcro for a hidden compartment. a buddy got an alice cover and used it as a spare tire cover for his jeep. looked pretty cool.

[@traviswolf]

Great, comprehensive video. I just completed my first 'tactical 5K' carrying 75lbs and I made a big mistake attempting that without a frame. I wanted to learn more about ALICE packs and this video covered everything in detail. Thank you!

[@Brent0331]

Thanks brother

[@reddevilparatrooper]

The best infantry pack in the US Military. I love the large ALICE.

[@crumply5959]

reddevilparatrooper if only if they had these in world war 2

[@reddevilparatrooper]

@@crumply5959 The US Marines came something close to it. It was called the M1941 Pack System. It was exclusively issued to the Marines during WWII till mid Vietnam. The Marines got smart when the M1967 and later ALICE came about. Use Army shit and save money.

[@FlippyHambone]

BEST 'Alice' video on youtube. Semper Fi!

[@Brent0331]

Thanks brother

[@LandseerNorth]

Marine from 77 to 97. Thanks for taking me back Marine! S/F.

[@iridiumscribe4915]

Picked up an Alice pack at my local thrift shop for $20 dated 1991 in M81 and it's in fairly decent condition. The straps on mine were custom made with pads from 1945. I ended up removing these and grabbing some NOS straps from the surplus shop, makes a world of difference for me. Since buying this I've been adding what I daily use. Added a first aid kit pouch with insert and recently picked up some 550 cord to make a top handle and some buckles to open the lid of the pack more efficiently. Planning to add male buckles to the top and bottom of the pack so I can carry my IIFS Pack to carry extra equipment and such. Eventually I'm looking to get the frame but for my basic needs, it's not a huge necessity. I appreciate the information you shared about this pack and the ideas you have given me to improve upon my own pack.

[@bartwalker474]

VERY USEFUL VIDEO!! You presented everything very well. I could have used all this info about 5 or 6 years ago when I was trying to decide on buying an ALICE pack or a civilian made backpack. I went with the medium ALICE and have NEVER regretted buying it. I use it for day hikes and overnighters. I have used it when I travel. You should see some of the looks I get when I walk in a hotel with my ALICE pack on my back and loaded up and compressed down. You forgot to show the modification people make where they sew a strap around the very top of the ALICE frame to make a drag handle or top handle. I am glad you like them so well. I am right there with you. It's the best bit of gear I have ever purchased. Thanks for sharing the video. Rock on Brother. Thanks for your service in the USMC too.

[@Brent0331]

Thanks for watching and commenting brother.

[@jonmnelson]

This is the best review of the ALICE pack I’ve seen. Very well done. Thanks!

[@w.o.v.1033]

Thanks Brent he did real good attention to detail. Appreciate the tutor Torio grandma that’s what I plan on going with Alice all the way.

[@ceclay1]

I appreciate your video! After watching I am more knowledgeable about both my Large and Medium packs. From your video I learned that the shoulder straps were on the wrong side. It feels better now. I appreciate your knowledge and instruction style. 😊

[@timharris3203]

The best Alice pack information I've seen on KZbin. I got a medium and large pack I've had for years put away in my SHTF gear and now I know how to put them together if there off the frames.

[@corybarker392]

At first glance the A.L.I.C.E. pack was just my back pack..thanks to u sir now I know how to utilize my medium and large packs I'm mobilized in the most effective and efficient manner. .. OOHRA!!

[@canadianoutdoorsurvival]

Easily the best and most comprehensive video about the ALICE system on KZbin! Thank you I learned quite a bit. Especially liked the tip about how to mount the 2 Quart Canteen and run the strap for compression! Great job Brent!

[@Brent0331]

Thanks brother.

[@1Splat]

Gotta love the simplicity of it all. Alice. Solid.

[@docback63]

I believe Natick Labs was already working on the LC-1 prototypes as early as 1969-70, and they envisioned having a Small, Medium and Large LC-1 pack, but they finally decided to get rid of the Small and went with the Medium and Large. One question I had for a long time, and nobody could ever really give me a solid answer on was "Who got the Mediums and who got the Larges?" A guy I know who graduated from the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, and entered the Army in 1972 told me that the Mediums were intended for "Heavy" Infantry, i.e. Mechanized Infantry, and the Large Alice packs were meant for "Light" Infantry, such as Airborne, Ranger, Special Forces, etc...to date this is the best answer for this question i have gotten, no one else could ever seemingly explain it. Thanks for this great review, i love my ALICE packs man, luckily living near Ft. Bragg, NC there are some really good places to take them to get mods done.

[@Brent0331]

Interesting

[@BadMoonRising92]

I love the ALICE. I’ve been in the Army for 10 years, on jump status for 9 straight years. A lot of guys still use these when we jump combat equipment. I have both the medium and large.

[@kara5518]

* I see that we think the same with you utilising the utility belt around the entire backpack. * I did the same with a modern MOLLE rucksack and i needed additional side pockets, yet i did not wanted to buy MOLLE pockets for that. * Yet i had plenty of vintage, soviet / eastern block gas mask pouches, that matched the olive drab colour of the main backpack, so i fixated / secured them on the side, with their waist belts going around the entire backpack. * I also appreciate all of your videos. You did a terrific job with all of them! * Your execution and dedication to them is impeccable. * Thank you for your effort!

[@Brent0331]

Thanks for watching and adding your experience brother.

[@cpd833]

This is the best video on the Alice Pack system.

[@Brent0331]

Thanks

[@brnrecluse2946]

EXCELLENT VIDEO. This was the most comprehensive alice pack video I've seen yet. Great job Brent!

[@Brent0331]

Thanks brother

[@josephdanmathis1876]

Alice is my favorite pack to date. I have many backpacks and rucksacks and it's always my go-to!

[@JohnDoe-pv2iu]

Hey Partner, you did an excellent job on this video! I normally don't care for videos this long but this one is info, not somebody spouting garbage. I do mix the older and newer material. I love the molle sustainment pouches and usually add at least one. Perfect size to pack about 4 mres in. One point I would like to add, I like to use heavy duty zip ties in place of Alice clips. I've had Alice clips come loose on me and if the gear is something you always carry the same way, there's no need for the quick detach clip. You also save a little weight, not a lot but the best way to save 5 pounds is find a couple dozen places to loose a few ounces. Great video! Take Care and be safe, John

[@Brent0331]

Thanks brother

[@ms.annthrope415]

Still have my ALICE pack from 1980. Used them for every travel need insread of luggage. Just toss it into the car or bus, tough, lightweight, and voluminous. Used it for 20 years to store my change out clothes to go from my office to accompany the narc raids. Packed a pair of jeans and BDU pants and BDU shirt, some dark t shirts, pair of surplus army boots, spare socks.

[@garyashford]

Your videos are the best online anywhere! Thanks for being so Comprehensive and thorough.

[@NYHCx845]

Right before I got out in 2012, my unit was prepping for future deployments to Afghanistan. Weapons Platoon came up with a way to carry 4-5 M72 LAWs using the ALICE frame and shelf.

[@emoryfindley8702]

Great video. My three tour Vietnam Vet Plt. Sgt. taught us use 55O cord instead of the belt on the kidney pad - A weave / knot pattern- Much more cushion on your lower back. We were not allowed to use kidney belts. You could not drop your pack quick enough. I was an RTO and was screwed on that ability anyway. My stuff was all LC - 1 apparently. I go on hunts in my native Georgia that last five days usually by myself. I still carry my ALICE pack (lg)

[@holtbrent]

I appreciate videos like this so much. Not just the gear review, but showing us some old tips and tricks that younger guys might not think of. I'd love to see some videos teaching older soldier skills that some younger troops might not be learning today.

[@paul7754]

BEST ALICE pack video ever! Run down and tips by a Marine who wore one! Great job Brent! I'm 4 years late to comment but I've been watching some ALICE pack videos and yours ROCKS! I just ordered a 'like new' woodland camo medium ruck with the woodland LC-2 enhanced shoulder straps. I'm looking at ALICE pack frames - market's changed since 2020 but I'll find one in good shape. Definitely getting a shelf for it too.

[@bigboyfrank6292]

Hey there brother! I’m a first timer hiker/camper myself and subscriber I just bought myself my first Alice pack and I’m not in the service but I do gladly support all our military servicemen and women past,present and future since my uncle served in the Korean War as a medic. I was watching your video on the Alice pack on proper installation of the straps and my straps was installed incorrect so thank you for the video and for your service! Can’t wait for the next video this is Big Boy Frank from Texas Peace out ✌️

[@Brent0331]

Thanks brother, glad you enjoyed.

[@kingharryannis]

Military surplus pants {trousers] backpacks[rucksacks] ,sleeping bags are cheaper ,tougher and better designed than the fancy civilian stuff.

[@heavyguns]

Best pack ever made for long humps, I remember around 2001 when we (usmc) went to that first molle system it was killing us on long crew served weapon humps. Damn good video brother. Semper Fi.

[@LordDestruction]

Okay, I've had the Large pack for many years now, bought it off a friend who got himself a "real" rucksack. I only go on 2-3 day trips but still manage to pack insane amounts of seemingly useless gear and something always felt a bit off. Today I found out two things: 1 - I never had an idea that the top flap was openable and 2 - the carrying straps were on the wrong way. I'm a chubby staff sergeant and the straps always were hell bent trying to cut my sides in half. Now I kind of want to find out if switching the straps give a better performance lugging shit across Finnish forests. Also need to stitch the center pouch back together as it gave up some time ago. But thank you Brent for this very informational video, much appreciated.

[@ricksspringfield45]

Outstanding Marine...I have been using the LC-1 for 15 yrs, showed me some unknown uses for mine, Thank You...and Thank You for your service to our country. SUBBED!

[@Brent0331]

Appreciate it brother, welcome aboard.

[@MartinRodriguez-ox7vh]

Like Brent 0331, I Too Am A Big Fan Of The USGI ALICE Medium And Large Rucksacks.

[@wildghostoutlaw1595]

I used an ALICE frame for hauling my radio gear. It's a multi purpose setup for anything including hunting trips. Thanks Brent for this amazing and valuable upload. This is the system I'm most familiar with. I use that entrenching tool and pouch as well to this day. Sometimes I can't find clips for a good price though. In my opinion, this is probably one of your best videos.

[@Brent0331]

Thanks brother, I appreciate that.

[@jamescrowe7892]

The ALICE system is great for accessorizing. Was introduced to it when I joined my state's National Guard after leaving the Navy. Acquired my own medium and large packs with frames for hiking and camping. Even got a couple new ideas from your video. Thanks and Bravo Zulu.

[@TheDesertRat31]

I have a large LC1 that has the LC2 type buckles. I wonder if that's a late LC1. Pretty sure it wasn't modified. We lost a guy downrange and it was his from Bragg CIF. I tried to turn it in, but they wouldn't take it when I was turning in mine. They write off a soldiers gear when they are killed or if it's medical related, so there is no longer anything on the books to be turned in. At the time, I didn't want the gear since I didn't need any extra stuff to store. But I'm glad I kept it. When my unit got the new molle packs (I was in 2000-2004), I just left it in the box. I already had my alice pack set up like I wanted it, and they are virtually indestructible, as you say. I still use it for rucking and I've used it on several camping/hiking trips. No, they are all Gucci like the stuff from REI, and it's probably not what you want to do a through-hike, but I've had tons of stuff in it and beat the crap out if it, as many others have as well. I was in the airborne and had an opportunity to do some test jumps for a new chute SF was adopting (the SF10) from the forest service (FS14). I had to put about 150+# in it to achieve a total weight of 300# for the combat equipment jumps. They had to validate the performance with heavy loads, or something like that. The good old Alice pack worked like a champ.

[@Sammydx1]

I been using a med Alice pack/frame since 1996. It's never let me down

[@unnamed6629]

issued a medium ALICE during my survival course with the Royal Canadian Air Cadets. Gotta say, they really are used everywhere and by everyone, even kids in my case! Mine was probably on it's tenth owner but that didn't matter, I was able to jerry rig the frame to the actual pack with a excessive amount of cordage, and also luckily everything's modular so I was able to replace my shoulder strap and my waist strap with ease

[@zman5387]

Used Alice gear back in the 70s and 80s in the field when I was in the Air Force. Alice gear is nuke proof and tough as hell. Own a medium and large pack now and are great for backpacking.

[@kerryprance3767]

I used an ALICE frame with cargo shelf ( back in the 1980's) to pack a Bison Seismograph and it's 200+ ft of cables and geophones. for hundreds of miles up mountains & through swamps. The load was 100lbs ++. ( 1 weigh 155). It never broke. Wish I could say the same for my back. I still love the ALICE packs and I have two today & i'm pushing 70 yrs.

[@gijoker1150]

So many packs have come and gone, but the ones that always remains with me are my ALICE packs. Like you said, tried and true and you'd be a lucky man to find yourself a woman this dependable and faithful!! Lol!!😅 If anyone is interested, I have a Mystery Ranch pack and the NICE frame works INCREDIBLY well with my ALICE packs! Carries extremely well! Just an FYI...Thanks for a great and informative video, for your time and effort and of course your service. Semper Fi!

[@Brent0331]

Thanks for commenting brother, S/F.

[@tacospicemafia6]

Really informative. Just got a frame for my hand me down medium OD ALICE pack. big help

[@petesheppard1709]

Memory time: I attended Marine Corps OCS through the Platoon Leader's Class Program in the '70s. During my first increment in '75, I was issued WWII-era 782 gear and M14 rifle. The pack was straight out of 'Sands of Iwo Jima' with the shelter half and blanket formed in a horseshoe around the pack. While small, it rode high up on the shoulders and was a joy to march in, since it was so well balanced. In '77, I was issued then-new ALICE gear, including the medium pack. The plastic Fastex buckles were also brand new, and I seriously wondered how well they would last. One thing we were strongly advised to do was to ensure the turnbuckle that held the kidney pad on was TIGHT, because if it came loose, the metal frame would start grinding into our backs. Because the pack rode low, it could be torment on the shoulders, as the weight would pivot on the hip belt and pull on the shoulders. Being instructed to pack the shelter half and blanket in the bottom didn't help either. We also broke down our web gear and route marched with the belt inside the pack and canteens/E-tool strapped to the outside. How would it be rigged to wear over a combat harness? I have a large ALICE and it is indeed a wonder to use--especially when properly loaded.

[@Brent0331]

Thanks for watching and commenting Devil Dog! For me the kidney pad sits perfectly above my butt pack and two canteens so its never interfered with my combat load. That's one of the pluses I give to the old Alice frame, although its not as padded as the newer stuff, I dont think anything fits better with an actual combat load on. In this case less (padding) is more.

[@henrywardell4635]

Thank you Brent0331 for your service. Great Kit - Great Video

[@rippersix293]

Great video! Like you, I’m a big fan of the ALICE packs and the entire ALICE system for that matter. Tough, reliable, inexpensive and easy to find replacement parts for. What more could a budget minded warrior ask for! Keep up with the great videos! ⚓️🇺🇸

[@Bob-eo3gf]

I'm a product of my times 11b back in the 90's, I love the large alice pack have no interest in giving it up for anything else.(If it works for me I stick with it!)

[@jaelonmagat7808]

I agree. Half my platoon took the plastic frames off our ilbe’s and put on an Alice frame. Great channel

[@paulbarrett3361]

Thanks fir the video, I've just received my first Alice pack,large. after watching your video im going to like the extra space.

[@johnbelmore1178]

I've got a lc-2 large Alice pack and I love it...I use it for bushcraft

[@marodriguezsr]

This has got to be one of the best if not the best video I have seen on the ALICE systems. I personally love my medium & large ALICE packs which I have modified the shoulder & kidney pads on both. I have Maxpedition, Red Rock, Snug Pack, Out Door Research, LA Police Gear & then some packs. When we go on extensive outings the pack I ALWAYS choose is one of my ALICE packs. Take care & thanks for sharing the video/info with us. - Marco

[@Moondog66602]

Tactical tailor straps are a must. Most important upgrade.

[@Smashycrashy]

I have a Spec Ops ALICE aftermarket pack and surplus frame that I acquired and I just wanted to spend 2 minutes to ensure the straps were right. But as soon as I saw you had a full video I spent the 37 minutes to come up to speed. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

[@CobraMarineRaider]

Glad to see her review on your channel. Nothing beats the Old School.

[@Brent0331]

Thanks brother.

[@JuanRodriguez-my8mm]

Outstanding presentation on ALICE. Last presentation i heard on ALICE was in boot camp. Thanks for sharing your updates to be used with this pack.

[@Brent0331]

Thanks for watching

[@marshalltravis3217]

I have a medium Alice pack for my EDC. I had the metal clips replaced with plastic clips and the cover pouch sewn shut with a zipper across the top horizontally. Love Alice

[@zaynevanday142]

As my unit was Paratroopers our Alice’s were heavily Modified two 10 litre pockets were sewn on both sides of the pack and a claymore pouch sewn on the packs opening flap and all pouch fasteners replaced with plastic fastex clips and everyone had after market pack straps and waist belt

[@jonlouis2582]

Very comprehensive review. These bags were off my radar until recently, now I have two, but I didn't even know half of what you cover in this video. Thanks bud!

[@Brent0331]

Thanks for watching.

[@jeffreyhill3960]

THE Expert for Alice...thanks. Awesome.

[@whomagoose6897]

Used both LC-1 and LC-2. I liked the LC-2 style buckles better. When that spring in the LC-1 got rusty it was hard to use. The straps sometimes started to fray on the ends making it hard to put through the spring buckle. Still have the LC-2 style large after 25+ years. Only that waterproof coating has peeled off. Also, I tied a homemade strap with a section of foam glued on the strap. This strap is tied on the top of the frame. You can get four points of contact to carry the load. Two shoulder straps, one waist belt, and the head strap that goes around your forehead. Not very tactical, but, load distribution is 4-ways instead of three ways. Carried a large ALICE all over Fort Campbell. My stuff and parts to the M-29, 81-mm mortar. Never failed. One thing about the ALICE packs is never dry these rucksacks in a drier. A washing machine is ok, but, let it air dry. The pad on the upper section on the pack shrinks in the hot dryer so you won't be able to insert the frame in the padded part. Learned never use hot dryers the hard way. Had a week of "special duties" for the First Sergeant. Never waxed so many floors in my life. No dryers! Machine wash ok, drip dry only.

[@Brent0331]

Ha, nice story brother. Thanks for watching and sharing.

[@whomagoose6897]

Found an antenna bag for the PRC-77 radio. Enough room for a small folding saw, a small pickaxe, and some fero rods. I call it a pioneer kit.

[@jeremy8715]

I got issued that in 2007 (LC2, medium size), National Guard = budget friendly.

[@feuerjager6]

Thanks for this video Brent, I got my own Large ALICE pack a few months ago but have been having trouble finding the ideal setup. This is a very comprehensive video, good work.

[@Brent0331]

Appreciate it brother.

[@MarkAnderson-ym6xx]

Brent, I've always been passively interested in your videos, they're instructive, informative, and even almost documentary-style. But this video sold me on the utility of the framed Alice pack, I'm shopping now for my first one, thanks!

[@Brent0331]

Thanks for watching and commenting brother.

[@stephenmitchell3569]

Large was issue to us in 1980 Army 3rd SF. Dust off some memories, Thank You.

[@LFTDoffroad]

We used ALICEs in boot camp and the quick release on mine would never stay connected. You know how DIs are, I had to hump through all of our field training holding on to my shoulder strap so as to keep it on my back, LOL. Every time I'd let go of it to do something, there goes my pack. Oh well, good times still. Builds Character, right? Great video, thanks for sharing. Oorah!!

[@Brent0331]

Lol classic! That's brother.

[@codyandbarbarakillingswort5546]

Thanks brother. USMC 86 to 90. 3rd mardiv camp schwab and NTA

[@andrewblackmore3150]

Just picked a LC2 up and thank god for this video cause I had no idea it was so versatile or how to set it up

[@Steve-ns2hb]

Amazing vid brother..you are a fantastic instructor. Best on you tube. I am not formet military, but my son is a former multiple tour marine who saw heavy combat in Afghanistan..was on numrrous missions in enemy territory. He swares by the Alice pack. Much preferred it over the ILBEs for comfort and ability to customize. He would agree with you on everything you said in this vid. You and he are much alike...I can alway spot a Marine.

[@marley4142]

I subscribed 36 hours ago and have watched 3 videos, I have learned more here than in years of similar videos. BTW my ALICE packs were set up wrong, not anymore thank you!

[@hamletthaus3046]

I was lucky enough to join the USMC in June 1998 and have the LC-2 issued through boot and about a year into the FMF. In mid/late 1999 we received the POS MOLLE system. ALICE was a leftover blessing from the Nam era having equipment that worked albeit not ergonomic but was pretty much indestructible from the fragile MOLLE. THE DoD done the military a HUGE disservice by giving govt contracts to affiliated companies to fix what is not broken. Combat packs are not hiking packs vice versus.

[@brucecamparmament3728]

Fantastic video. The Medium Alice is one of my favorite, most versatile packs as well.

[@Brent0331]

Agreed!

[@nomadmarauder-dw9re]

For assault pack mode on the Alice 2.😢 The frame mounting straps will still mate up to the bars on sides of the pack. Works, if you want it. For using with the frame, 550 cord through the same web bar will hold it tight. Or get an Alice mini, which is a solution in search of a problem.

[@adelarsen9776]

This is a brilliant video. Thank you. I have a number of these packs in medium and large and they are just the best. Thanks for the tip about Zip tying on everything for security and also for the water bottle pack strap installation - very good. I've never been in the armed services but I have travelled much with a medium ALICE and for me it's a real piece of kit. It's reliable and strong. I believe that the ALICE pack is the best ever created. So versatile.

[@ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869]

I like mine. I replaced the waist belt with a load carrier belt that makes it ride on my hips better and I keep a couple East German AK-47 MAG POUCHES. The ALICE pack straps are pretty good but I like to throw a couple of stitches in that quick release. I've broken plenty because I put them on my Stürmgepack and my Swiss Army rucksack.

[@AlphaCharlieConcepts]

Good stuff as always my brother. Brings back memories. 👍🏻👊🏻💪🏻

[@Brent0331]

Thanks man

[@Jaxon1776]

I purchased an unissued medium alice pack for cheap that was in great condition. The only problem was it smelled like vomit because the polyurethane coating as it begins to break down gives off an offsetting odor. I aired it out on my back porch for a couple of week and that did help, but the odor was still there. After reading about the problem on some forums I followed the advice and soaked it in Odoban and ran it through the gentle cycle and air dried it. Now it's significantly better.

[@crabyman3555]

I got one for 40 euros from a friend, and I must say its the most comfortable pack I have carried around. Dont know why, but it just feels nice on your back even when compared to more modern backpacks (I have a decent large civilian tourist pack as well).

[@Brent0331]

Awesome brother, thanks for sharing.

[@torsten4757]

Hi Brent, l have both, the Large and the Medium ALICE Pack. Like each. Because l am an civilian my needs may differ, but it´s fun and endless options to modify these Packs for Camping and Hiking. l also got lucky to have enough ALICE Gear like Canteens and so on, and a lot of MOLLE ll stuff as well. Here in Germany is a big Market for US Surplus Gear. l like that stuff and l am well equiped :-) Thank´s for your great and informative videos, l like that. Best regards from Germany, Torsten

[@Brent0331]

Awesome brother, thanks for watching and commenting.

[@thisistheway3406]

Thank you Brent you sharing your knowledge is much appreciated.

[@Brent0331]

My pleasure!