The CULT of Superstar Doctors

[@MedlifeCrisis]

Thanks for watching this more in-depth video. I think it's an important topic. If you want to help me make more videos like this then subscribing, sharing, liking all that jazz is hugely appreciated. But if you want to get something for yourself too and really support the channel, visit curiositystream.com/medlife and use the code 'medlife' to get a year of CuriosityStream AND Nebula for under $15. If you don't think that's a good deal, maybe you do need a head transplant after all. Cheers all!

[@baryl]

Thanks for the video!

[@mfaizsyahmi]

Off topic but can you please get all your Nebula buddies to agree to not say BS stuff like "if we release this video on YT it will certainly get demonetized and you'll certainly never going to see it" because that is false and disingenuous. It's like those BS VPN ad reads. Just be frank and say you guys are putting this and that behind a paywall. Period.

[@liam_hurlburt]

why no link to Henrik Widegren's ballad? kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKWoYWh3Z9R8q8k

[@iseriver3982]

You're a stuffy old traditionalist.

[@mariepindstruplinde1671]

Nebula is where I see many of my KZbin creators first. Then I watch here on KZbin as well to be able to comment on the videos 😁

[@Sybil_Detard]

To be fair, both corpses retained the same control over their bodies as they had prior to the head transplants.

[@jelalathelone7249]

Lmao

[@thisisyourusernameondrugs9373]

Great success!

[@richardsmith5803]

@@thisisyourusernameondrugs9373 please tell me you are quoting Borat 🤣

[@thisisyourusernameondrugs9373]

@@richardsmith5803yep haha

[@BaDazai]

@@thisisyourusernameondrugs9373 p

[@hippiemuslim]

A few years ago there was an Italian man who performed plastic surgery in Romania. The female patients started complaining that their breasts were a mess after surgery. His colleagues only started speaking out after it was uncovered that his diploma was fake and he only graduated eighth grade.

[@mariaGreenDay4ever]

oh my god it sounds scary that the other doctors did not catch him

[@elias_xp95]

The butcher of titikaka

[@susanhodges9447]

@bina nocht You called me?

[@PinkNintendoDuo87]

Was it Matteo Politi (aka Matthew Mode)?

[@hippiemuslim]

@@PinkNintendoDuo87 Yup

[@taiefmiah]

It's very upsetting to hear what happened to the whistleblowers at the Karolinska institute and the fact that they still are suffering from it seems like a significant injustice

[@weareallbornmad410]

I'm so disturbed by that. I wonder where they are in life now, how they are managing

[@RICDirector]

As do the charges only of 'aggravated assault'...should be egligent homicide at the VERY least.

[@RICDirector]

Argh! Negligent homicide. Curses be upon this phone!

[@michaelb1761]

@@RICDirector my thoughts exactly. When he said "aggravated assault", I wondered why it wasn't 2nd degree murder or at least manslaughter.

[@NadDew]

I'm really sympathy with those whistleblowers but what concerns me more is they'll be in people mind as an example to shut your mouth and mind your own business or else.... I truly hope it's not done on purpose.

[@michaelhutchings8599]

Organ Transplant without the word Ciclosporin makes me nervous. I Survived a Bone Marrow Transplant for Myelodysplastic Syndrome (2013), and the importance of Ciclosporin was stressed every Monday, Wednesday and Friday check up. "Have you been taking your Ciclosporin?" was almost always the first question asked. Which of course I did. 350mg a day. Over six months it was reduced until I didn't need it. Nine years in remission now. Thank God for the people who found/invented that medicine. Incredible people.

[@Cbd_7ohm]

I'm glad it worked out for you. Organ transplants sound scary.

[@michaelhutchings8599]

@@Cbd_7ohm Thank you so much. Very blessed to have had a great team of Doctor's at the Royal Melbourne Hospital. Prof. Jeff Szer, Prof. David Ritchie (Two doctor's that are exceptional in the field of transplantation), Dr. Fleming and the countless nurses that kept me alive and well.

[@2sdd]

this is acutally amazing you can live witohut it now. i worked in tx hospital for 2 years and i think i never met patient who could let immunosuppressants go.

[@michaelhutchings8599]

@@2sdd Yeah it is a blessing. Never had GVHD ONCE! I had an allogeneic transplant as well. Two of my brothers were as near to a perfect match as you can get. My older brother volunteered. I had my hickman insertion on the second of April and left Melbourne in the clear on the second of August. By October /November my haematologist had pulled me off all my ciclosporin I still had somac and antifungals and something Forte it had culuvic acid in it? I think it was an pneumonia medication? Not sure how to spell it. But it was a pretty quick ween of ciclosporin. It's been 9 years and I haven't had to take any BMT meds at all. But the PTSD, MDD and Panic Disorder I developed because it was a hard battle. A lot of people think it's over after 100 days. But the mental toll it takes, its a heavy weight. It's hard to keep going but I'm here smiling. I love my life as hard as its been at times! 😊

[@McFwoupson]

A friend of mine too ciclosporin for a bone marrow transplant. He forgot to take it for a little while and developed shingles. First thing his doc asked when he got shingles was if he was consistently taking the ciclo.

[@SomeoneBeginingWithI]

There should be some kind of protection for whistle-blowers in these situations. Doctors who choose to go out of their way to expose the lies should get less punishment for whatever involvement they initially had. If we punish the whistle-blowers the same as if they hadn't done the public service of exposing the lies, that means there's a disincentive to coming clean and people are more likely to collude. Anyone who is in a position to be a whistle-blower probably had some involvement in the lie because otherwise they wouldn't know enough to be able to prove it false.

[@timhuester7721]

The EU actually passed the EU whistleblower directive about a year ago to adress these kinds of problems. Mostly in context of business and governement. Sadly the influence of the industry lobby weakened the final draft siginificantly.

[@nopahrefa4466]

They did get less punishment though, they are arguing that they should get none. They didn't get reported to the police for the crime of sharing confidential information, they didn't get reported to the police for their involvement in the research or the surgeries, they are not held responsible for their parts in the deaths, they merely got a "scientific malpractice" tag from the university, complete with a "junior members and mitigating circumstances" note. I'm not sure it counts as retaliatory to note that they DID indeed partake in pretty severe scientific malpractice for 4 years before owning up to it, prompted by unrelated parties filing for irregularities. They weren't even the first people to bring up the irregularities, which to me seems more like trying to avoid going down with the ship than having suddenly acquired a conscience.

[@SineEyed]

The problem inherent to exposing lies becomes apparent when objective truth is being disputed. Is it true that men who put on lipstick can become pregnant? Is it true that lockdowns were effective, masks prevent transmission, and mRNA vaccines prevent death? Does it really only take three licks to get to the center of a delicious TootsieRoll tootsie pop? We're told those things are true. And there is incredible social pressure to affirm them as such. But are they true? Society needs to have a discussion to work out so that everybody is in agreement on what it means for something to be "true"..

[@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721]

It seems that injustice in the medical field is an issue that affects doctors as much as it affects patients.

[@octogonSmuggler]

There are "technically" protections in place in the U.S., and there have been several law suits regarding whistleblowing that went to the supreme court over here, but this happened in Sweden, so...

[@highestqualitypigiron]

My friend is a neurosurgeon and I asked him about head transplantation and he said it was currently impossible due to a number of factors. You cannot grow neurons fast enough to allow connections between the spinal chord or brain stem or wherever he planned to cut to in order the engraftment to occur. The patient would likely die of being intubated for too long way before even the most basic biological processes could be controlled by the new brain. Furthermore it's difficult to tell if structural differences between the donor and recipient would actually allow for the right signals to be sent to the right areas of the body. Even if you somehow got everything to heal and connect within 24 hours the patient would most likely be completely paralysed

[@Gillsing]

I imagine that in order to transplant anything neurological, we would first need to create some kind of interface that would allow us to connect our neurological pathways to a machine which could then connect to a new body part. Perhaps such an interface would have to be installed during early development in the womb, so it becomes part of the body.

[@trevortammen2341]

@@Gillsing but then that would also require the cutting off of a fetuses head for reattatchment so the device would be in between

[@aamirsuhail7271]

This. When I first followed the story, I was bewildered by how they were gonna have functional neurons/axons, and came at a dead stop at PEG, I was fucking laughing even as i was unsure if maybe it was me who was too skeptical.

[@Merlin3189]

Don't listen to the nay-sayers. We'd never make any progress if we took their attitude. Just because they can't do something doesn't mean you can't.

[@Cbd_7ohm]

@@trevortammen2341 lol

[@MsAvly]

Love the shoutout to Henrik Widegren! I was a student at Karolinska while the scandal unraveled, which was… interesting. Especially worthy of note was how, when the word got out that Karolinska was considering recruiting Macchiarini, some of his former collaborators reached out to the university to basically say “don’t do it, mate”. Not that anyone listened…

[@SomeoneBeginingWithI]

For a class suggestion: how to read and interpret academic papers in medicine, particularly the way the statistics are presented. Even as a biology student who is familiar with reading scientific papers, the statistics in medicine are presented differently to what I have been taught how to interpret. Since there are so many people now trying to "do their own research", it might be beneficial to provide some tools so people are at less risk of wildly misinterpreting the papers they're trying to read.

[@inkompetenzkompensationsko4188]

Yes! I am tired of facebook mom groups citing pubmed publicarions about plants when discussing their childrens medical (non) treatment 😂🙄

[@rdizzy1]

The easiest thing for people to learn regarding this is the difference between causation and correlation, considering most studies are regarding some type of correlation between X and Y, rather than definitive causation between X and Y, and the main people that need to learn this is the journalists that write news stories regarding these studies.

[@SomeoneBeginingWithI]

@@rdizzy1 That's not really what I meant. There are already lots of people on the interent explaining corellation is not causation because it is very simple to explain, it doesn't really need a whole video course. What I meant was how the results section is formatted in a medical paper. In biology, we use P values. The P value is the probability that the results you got happened by chance. If the P value is very low, we consider the results to be statistically significant, which means that they are very unlikely to have just happened randomly, so they are probably real. Usually a P value of less than 0.05 is considered statistically significant, but in some contexts you would use a lower P value like 0.01 or 0.005 if you want to be extra sure you're not wrong. When you are reading a scientific paper, you don't get any explanation on what a P value is or what they mean. It is assumed that everyone reading the paper already knows how to interpret P values. You just get a table of data, and one of the columns is labelled P and it has numbers in it. In medicine, they usually do not use P values. The statistics are presented differently, using different abbreviations that non-medical scientists are not taught how to interpret. Learning about statistical significance and confidence intervals and sample sizes (very large samples are sometimes worse actually) is a complicated enough topic to be worth making a whole course about.

[@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721]

Seconded. Scientific literacy is as important of a skill as science itself.

[@stefancahyono9220]

As someone who graduated from med school, I’m confused by this. Are you saying that academic papers in the field of medicine *don’t* use the usual statistical tools? Because I definitely remember learning about p-value, 95% Confidence Interval, all that statistical goodies (however faintly they remain in memory, if at all). And in fact, a point we studied early on is about critical appraisal of literature and a part of that is about paying attention to 95%CI and P-values, because that’s how we can figure out if the sampling is good, if the results are applicable outside of the study environment, and all that stuff.

[@neurotransmissions]

I heard that "Jesus M.D." will be airing on Fox starring Hugh Laurie playing Sherlock Holmes with long hair and a beard. He walks around the hospital like he's the son of god and berates people who don't believe in miracles. And instead of saying, "It's never lupus", he says "It's never Satan" because let's be real, Satan has better things to do than make people sick.

[@MedlifeCrisis]

And lo the acetaminophen became Vicodin and thusly he healed the sick

[@lameduck3105]

@@MedlifeCrisis Bullocks. People with insight know that the only medication that helps you get well is benzodiazepines. And loads and loads of it. Really, where can I get more? Edit: I'm not kidding. Where can I get more? Do you know a guy who sells on the Dark Web or something? I'll buy anything as long as it is a benzodiazepine. Can I email you to get a name, address or website you can hook me up with? I'm really desperate.

[@gupadre8255]

@@MedlifeCrisis hi 🥺

[@paineoftheworld]

Reach out... Touch cure... Your own personal medical Jesus.

[@docouchi7929]

In Brazil there is the character claiming he is a surgeon from god (although he isn’t a physician) millions of people go to see him, he is called João de Deus

[@kavjay]

I was working at the UCLH at the time of the BBC documentary series came out and I was horrified about the actions of Paolo Macchiarini. But what horrified me the most is the support that my colleagues showed him (I can name names if you like), often saying "well, every surgeon has a secret graveyard" or "well, those people would've died regardless". I'm very deeply saddened by the level of human cruelty

[@rdizzy1]

It is very likely that the second statement is true, many of those people would have died regardless. Just like the guy that received the animal heart, he ended up dying, but he would be dead anyway.

[@kavjay]

@@rdizzy1 many people who gone under a tracheostomy survive for years. However, most Macchiarini's patients died in a matter of few months. Do you understand that? Do you see the distinction? This is why it so important to keep your comments to yourself, if you are less knowledgeable about a subject. I suggest you watch the 3 part BBB documentary series about Macchiarini, "Fatal Experiment: The Downfall of a SuperSurgeon"

[@christinfranklin1333]

The secret graveyard comment is truly terrifying

[@kavjay]

@@christinfranklin1333, right? These are the people we trust our lives with

[@vacafuega]

Waaaahhhh. I absolutely believe you and also, just argh. This does nothing to help my phobia of institutional medicine 😐

[@cuber3603]

We need to talk about this "Dr who" guy, I'm not even sure he has a medical licence

[@JamesDecker7]

But he is SO fun to watch! Long live the WAR doctor!

[@darthplagueis13]

Maybe he's got a PhD in a different field?

[@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721]

He's not a doctor, but he is The Doctor.

[@0rbeez]

I’ve heard he changes his name and appearance regularly, he must be on the run from the law!

[@thegoodgunner]

EEEExterminate!@@@

[@AlexDanielCPhT]

I've been a radiology transcriptionist since 2002, and I've always been turned off by celebrity scientists because the more time they spend on TV, the less time they're spending doing scientific fieldwork. None of the radiologists I work under are the least bit famous, but I'll trust them over TV quacks any day, because my radiologists don't mind specifying if something is known or merely suspected, and they don't mind saying if a particular issue is beyond a radiologist's professional scope of knowledge.

[@asmrtpop2676]

I’m a vet tech and yes, my favourite doctors to work for/with are also my first choices when my own pets need health and the major thing they all have in common is being able to admit when a medical issue is beyond their scope and getting me good referrals OR using their own time to call other doctors they know who specialize in other fields and getting their opinion. I’ve definitely worked with plenty of vets who would rather just make up or infer what’s going on instead of just admit they don’t have the knowledge or experience in this area and go from there. It’s such a difference.

[@SongwritingDeconstructed]

@@asmrtpop2676 the best doctors are the ones who aren't afraid to say they don't know what's going on, will order investigations, make referrals, and not rule anything out for spurious reasons. My partner has had a delay in treatment for a rare cancer bc one specialist ruled it out essentially saying 'you're far too young for this'. Turns out they were wrong. Sometimes hoofbeats ARE zebras!

[@lucaalbertorizzo4114]

As an Italian scientist myself, I have only one thing to add to this video: no need to use olives in the analogy, Italy is also one of top producers of apples 😁 much more seriously, thanks a lot for your great videos!

[@chriswalford4161]

…and an apple a day……

[@FailedOrbits]

How to forget metodo di bella

[@BrunoNeureiter]

Eccezionale

[@Friek555]

​@@chucklebutt4470 This is a nitpick, but Almaty (or Alma Ata), the biggest city of Kazakhstan, isn't the capital. But the capital's name is also interesting: Its name was changed 4 times in 60 years: From Akmolinsk to Zelinograd (1961) to Aqmola (1992) to Astana (1998) to Nur-Sultan (2019). This newest name is the first name of Kazakhstan's ex-dictator Nursultan Nazarbayev.

[@TheLakabanzaichrg]

I though Germany was it

[@cannibalvegetableyt]

You would not *believe* some of the goofy shit I went through with FaMoUs DoCtOrS I was *forced* to see in my personal injury lawsuit. I even suffered through an endoscopy procedure without medication (it failed as I was on a lot of drugs) and I overheard the doctor say she wanted to go ahead because it was Friday and she wanted to go home. She was covering for my doctor and obviously did not care. I coughed through the entire procedure and felt the instrument take a biopsy. They knew I was awake, I was staring at them.. they just kept telling me to close my eyes. I couldn't speak as I had the guard down my throat. I still have nightmares.

[@augustoof13]

Jesus christ, that sounds like a nightmare.

[@wlodek7422]

Endoscopy without medication? That literally fails our exams in poland, insane that somebody did that

[@HobertMallow]

This Italian academic thanks you for the final words. One thing that is worth mentioning is that the pressure is even higher in the Italian academic system, with people who really don't deserve their positions being put there because they know the right people, poor pay (unless you are a rockstar), poor turnover and very limited opportunity for young researchers. I am of course not justifying what these crooks are doing, but I think that these are all factors that will encourage unscrupulous people to take shortcuts if they can. For the record, I am not an MD (as my wife likes to put it, I am a doctor of the non-useful kind). My perception however is that what I said about Italy holds true in medicine as well as in other fields. Finally, I love your more in depth videos :)

[@liammhodonohue]

I couldn't help paint, in my mind's eye, the image of Francesco Schettino onto this character. The Costa Concordia Captain also had quite a dramatic fall from grace. Literal showboating to impress his old boss, girlfriend he was trying to woo. Nepotism aside, what else drives this? I work alongside some Italian scientist colleagues who escaped to UK. I suspected much the same for many years, plus the Western affliction of too many graduates chasing too few jobs🤷‍♂️ I escaped research and work in diagnostics. I struggled to justify dedicating an unknown number of years for such an insecure job.

[@HobertMallow]

@@liammhodonohue I am not sure I am qualified to answer that completely but I will give it a shot. I think it partially has deep historical and cultural roots: Romans had "clientes", which literally translates to clients but is more about people people in the network of someone powerful and exchanging favors with them. This to be honest is just human nature and you see it everywhere, but Italian colleges have more of a tradition on it. Aside from that there is little to absolutely no funding from research from the Italian government (my PhD was entirely funded by European union money). This means that compared to other countries where people have access to both, Italian researchers have less resources. And I am not even going to compare to R1 institutions in the US, where I am at now and where you get resources that most Italian colleges can only dream of. I do take some pride in the fact that despite all of this there's a lot of Italian researchers that are very competitive. We are the MacGyvers of research 😂.

[@Cin9999]

@@liammhodonohue An insecure job in diagnostics?

[@liammhodonohue]

@@HobertMallow I like the MacGyver comparison👍 maverick, tinkering with simple techniques. In scientific papers I often see the keyword "elegant" used. Too often the rate limiting factor is not enough funding. However, too much funding can also be a problem! Was it Bill Gates or Warren Buffet who said on passing wealth to children - they will have enough money to do anything, not so much they do nothing.

[@HobertMallow]

@@liammhodonohue you know I have seen that in some US PhD students actually. Interesting stuff, I am sure people wiser than me have looked into it.

[@lohphat]

Imagine the spine being a bundle of 1800 pairs of telephone wires each broken down into sub bundles of 25 pairs bound together to make up the 1800 total count. Now cut it. Now your job is to re-splice each pair correctly with no mistakes as doing so will route signals to a different destination than was originally intended. Now multiply that task by a few ten thousands. There’s no “magic sauce” which can locate, align, and splice those severed nerve cells which were originally grown during gestation of the patient while a fetus. They elongated as the fetus grew, through being born, and throughout puberty until they reached their final length. The bundle of the spine was created during gestation. Its complexity is as old as the patient. This is why spinal injuries are so serious and life-changing as those long nerve cells don’t grow back.

[@whocares269]

This was beautifully explained, do you teach?

[@lohphat]

@@whocares269 Thanks but not really. I'm a tech consultant and have to explain complex subjects in ways that are accessible to people's common experiences.

[@HALLish-jl5mo]

I don’t think you necessarily need to line everything up to the correct wire. If you where to do this with actual wires you could wire everything, test what wire did what, and then program everything accordingly. (I don’t necessarily recommend wiring like this, it’s a good way to get certain types of problems, but it’s fairly common). With consciously controlled body parts, and several years of therapy, I think the same thing could apply. Yes, you might have your left elbow wired up to your right big toe, but you’ve learned to walk once, you can relearn. The problem is everything that isn’t consciously controlled, because you can’t relearn that.

[@eerielconstantine5051]

Beautifully explained ❤

[@alepvl8951]

Exactly. If it was so easy to reattach axons and repair neurons, there wouldn't be so many people with spinal injuries, unable to walk or even use their hands (paraplegic/tetraplegic)

[@GeorgeDolbier]

I loved your "I'm not a racist Some of my best friends are italian medical researchers" (please take this with all the harmless sarcasm it is intended)

[@MedlifeCrisis]

lol it does sound like that doesn't it

[@mikieswart]

“i’m not racist! i _love_ the olive garden!”

[@RillianGrant]

@@MedlifeCrisis ... and I like mario

[@bigchinkid9052]

@@RillianGrant mama mia that's racist

[@geekdivaherself]

@@bigchinkid9052 No, no, no. You missed a comma, etc.: Mama mia, thas a-racist!

[@deponentfutures]

Shoot, I was going to go forward with my groundbreaking research on surgically implanting a synthetic head covered in cardiac stem cells on a corpse, but I think I should reconsider

[@ballboys835]

Cultish behavior is inevitable for any issue that fascinates a lot of people. The head of whatever movement ends up POWER OVERWHELMING and going nuts, even if it may have started off innocent. Or is just a delusional cesspool from beginning to end like these cases. Except us, because we're immune to that kind of groupthink. All hail Dr. M. Crisis.

[@_the_]

Dr. M. Crisis is our truth!

[@paulgoogol2652]

Yes, I look down to the followers of Putin, Musk and Trump because they don't deliver such puns without looking like clowns.

[@narsimhas1360]

@@paulgoogol2652 lol Musk has done more for the world than anyone alive today

[@therabbithat]

There are people who accidentally create cults but it's not something a regular person does accidentally. it comes out of a habit of creating a particular type of dynamic. If you are destined to go on to create a cult, your family or your marriage is already a cult, for example. You can also do it purposefully by learning about undue influence. "how to manipulate people" is a very common search term but "how to protect yourself from being manipulated (and other variants of this sentence)" is not, we need to change that.

[@dstinnettmusic]

Except Mr. Rogers

[@pingpong2978]

The fact that we elevated Sigmund Freud to superstar status, should be enough proof that maybe we shouldn't idolise doctors

[@alunoodalmheiri7028]

Why? 😮

[@Rodoet001]

@@alunoodalmheiri7028 Because for all the things Sigmund did to push the science of psychology, for all the breakthroughs he's enabled, for all of his fascinating discoveries and studies, he was one of the earliest in the field of psychology, and as someone who's studied the field, you can tell. Much of his theses and theories are products of his time as well as often showing strong signs of bias, and even he has stated that despite how sure he is, he might not be right. And as the field developed, it became more and more clear how limited his view had been and just how much more complicated and complex the human mind is. We shouldn't outright dismiss him, sure, nor should we ignore all he did for the field simply because he was early. But elevating him to idol status or anything of the sort ends up perpatuating incomplete and old ideas and science, rather than learning, building, and refining the field.

[@FluffyCloudsandCats]

@@alunoodalmheiri7028 Freud said we all wanna bang our parents

[@natk4017]

@@alunoodalmheiri7028 Bro his entire theory was that little girls wanted to mate with their dad's but their mom is in the way of that so they're forced to go marry an outside mate because secretly all women wish they had a penis 💀💀💀 dude was a psycho

[@longdongmc.johnson]

@Rodoet001 not to mention he was quite fucked in the head.

[@None-Trick_Pony]

I was surprised that the guy survived 2½ years with their Fisher Pryce-brand trachea. That seems like a long time!

[@You_work_tomorrow]

Well he is a talented surgeon, that’s what makes it so confusing, he would’ve had an amazing life with his skills already but couldn’t help himself

[@Farimira]

That makes me wonder if it was actually an implant not a transplant

[@xxportalxx.]

@@Farimira it was an implant, coated in stem cells, or do you mean if it was actually a transplant?

[@xxportalxx.]

@@You_work_tomorrow as he said in the vid there's a pretty good chance he was psychopathic and a pathological liar, he may literally not have been able to stop himself (or even realize that he should).

[@Farimira]

@@xxportalxx. that would make more sense, thanks for clarifying. When I watched the video it sounded like they were talking about a plastic trachea (ridiculous surely?), instead of a plastic air way stent (with pointless stem cells added on).

[@PotatoSoup40]

Update: After receiving a suspended sentence from Solna district court shortly after the publication of this video, the case went to the court of appeals. In June of this year they found Macchiarini guilty of 3 cases of aggravated assault, and he was sentenced to 2 years and 6 months in prison which he is now likely serving out.

[@kg-Whatthehelliseventhat]

Thank q 4 the update 😊😊😊

[@lucasgerbasi1084]

Such a well-spoken and insightful physician. You make what is so hard to do, look very easy. I aspire to hold the ability to communicate so well one day as a future physician.

[@rowannadon7668]

This guy’s scripts are on another level. The pacing, delivery, etc are very engaging too

[@vampirebottom]

This kind of video hits close. I'm not comfortable getting into specifics from fear of backlash, but there's a Superstar Doctor who's positioned himself as a top specialist and his "research center" as a destination facility in diagnosing and treating my disease to the point where he's listed on several disease society and charity websites as a trusted physician and local doctors actively refer their patients to him. But he's incredibly suspicious in that he not only diagnoses virtually every new patient based on initial physical exam and/or reported symptoms, but he recommends the most unorthodox and invasive treatment methods (including bowel resections) regardless of symptom presentation/severity of the disease degeneration. He's extremely divisive in our community: his patients who believe him love him and credit him as a savior and are fiercely combatative against his critics. But genuinely: he's a horrific monster taking advantage of an undeserved niche and subjecting vulnerable people to being needlessly butchered.

[@griffy9639]

....i think i might know who you're referring to, and it's possible i was victimized by him personally lmao. my life is now ruined because of it so if it is the same guy there's that

[@margodphd]

That's... that's horrifying. To prey on suffering people is the lowest one can stoop :/

[@bobrobert533]

Would love a video explaining the whole top 10 of retracted papers

[@starlight8554]

The one thing I’ve realised in medical school is that there are all sorts of people who set out to become doctors. I can see quite a few of my peers who are doing this because they hope to make as much money as possible, ethics be damned. No one human being should be revered without any sort of critical thinking.

[@benjones1717]

A person can be a pathological liar without being a psychopath, which should be our first assumption, even if people suffer by their actions. Selfish reckless dangerous etc, isn't the same as fearless.

[@medicalchalupa9928]

"The Ballad of Super star Surgeon Paolo Macchiarini" was wonderful to listen to. Henrik Widegren is a genius. Some would even call him a superstar...? lmao

[@maikeliebtkuchen7706]

Finally someone talks about this rediculous claims about Head transplant. In 2015 I was in my first year of medical school and was just learning about the very limited regeneration potential of damaged nerve cells and the complexity of neurophysiology, and was like wtf, this can't be true 😂

[@oliveryt7168]

But as a noob in this field how would you think your newly acquired knowledge could prove you right?

[@maikeliebtkuchen7706]

@@oliveryt7168 well, I logically deduced that by what my Professors had thought me, this could not be possible, so I was very irritated.

[@0ddSavant]

I really enjoy your content. Even at your snarkiest, you always seem to genuinely come from a place of compassion. You don’t ever punch down & I applaud you for that. I also like your reluctance to opine on new and complex situations immediately. You seem to operate from the perspective that a considered and nuanced position takes time to cultivate, and that cultivation is probably not best served while in the public eye [or reduced to a 12 word sound bite]. I don’t mean to damn you with faint praise. I truly appreciate how, before you offer your opinion, you take the time to inform and vet your opinion.

[@aarondavis8943]

Incompetent and incurious journalists are a big part of this problem. They are meant to be vetting these people, especially the ones who make extraordinary claims. Also, I subbed on the basis of watching 20 minutes of this video. Truly superb content.

[@LinusBerglund]

I actually watched the first documentary that started the controversy (I think). They interviewed Macchiarini, and even though they prime you to more or less know he was a lying deceitful man, he was so charismatic that the gut feeling was that he was a decent guy. Quite scary.

[@CarolynThomas-HeartSisters]

Bravo, Dr. Rohin Frances! The three compelling stories work so well at brilliantly illustrating your points about superstar doctor/grifters. I couldn't help but recall the scandal of another superstar charmer, Dr. Mark Midei, a former interventional cardiologist in Maryland who became the poster boy for implanting medically unnecessary coronary stents - until he got caught. He had been telling many of his patients that they needed stents to open up coronary blockages in the 90% range, while a subsequent independent review of their records showed actual blockages closer to 10% or less (stents, as you know, are not typically even considered for blockages under 70%) Midei has since been relieved of his license to practice medicine after federal charges of healthcare fraud. He also faced over 80 medical malpractice lawsuits (yet he subsequently decided to file a $60 million defamation lawsuit against his employer, St. Joseph's Hospital in Towson, because they'd sent embarrassing notices of his firing to 369 of his affected patients, thus tarnishing his stellar reputation. It's astonishing to consider the puzzling way these charming superstar docs still manage get away with their crimes (except maybe for Louisiana's Dr. Mehmood Patel, another stent-happy cardiologist convicted and sentenced to 10 years in federal prison). The Baltimore Sun, which covered Midei's federal fraud investigation for over a year, reported in 2011 that one elderly patient, when told that her coronary blockage had actually been a barely detectable 10%, and that her cardiologist had lied to her about a 90% blockage, replied: "I don't care what you say! Dr. Midei SAVED MY LIFE!" Loved this fascinating - and entertaining (if you're not the doc being skewered) cautionary tale.

[@ThatGamerBlue]

Sorry Rohin but we're gonna have to sue you for the emotional distress of subjecting us to James Corden

[@MedlifeCrisis]

I am genuinely sorry haha. But it truly represented the peak of the Fauci religion. Wtf was that song and dance?! Jesus wept

[@gupadre8255]

@@MedlifeCrisis hi 👋

[@rat_thrower5604]

It genuinely make me feel ill

[@fahadfaisal7855]

Count me in the 'Class-action'...still in recovery!

[@elvingearmasterirma7241]

Antisocial personality disorder sufferers do tend to go into medical/law fields. Mainly due to the power it gives them over others. And its challenging enough they dont get bored. (One of the symptoms is a constant need for stimulation) But the lack of empathy, morals, their ego and arrogance, etc It can result in malpractice and in this video's case, this super start thingy.

[@NickanM]

Several reports actually points out that anti social personality disorder can be a positive trait when it comes to doctors; The huge ego makes them to hate to loose, and it includes loosing a patient. Instead they get a boost to their ego. If they don't cross the line like a few do.

[@elvingearmasterirma7241]

@@NickanM I mean that is the helpful side. Doctors, nurses, veterinarians. Just dont expect bedside manners.

[@NickanM]

@@elvingearmasterirma7241 True. But Macciarini is a monster. And a murderer in my eyes.

[@elvingearmasterirma7241]

@@NickanM Oh straight up. I give both middle fingers to him and I hope he rots in jail

[@MadNumForce]

Oh man. As a French, the pandemic has been a very tough time. Not only was there Didier Raoult, but also Christian Peronne, Alexandra Henrion-Claude, and even Nobel Prize winner Luc Montagnier who is now completely delirious. They all got invited in the media for months and treated as respectable authorities, even though Raoult had claimed COVID wouldn't be anymore dangerous than foot scooters, that there wouldn't be a second wave, and that lockdown was entirely ineffective. When the incompetent media finally lent an ear to whistleblowers, it was already too late, the charlatans had gained huge popular traction. And now we are still plagued with Raoultians still preaching the unfaillibility of their glorious prophet. Just a few days ago he claimed epidemic models for disease spread weren't science, but defended astrology as giving better answers than epidemiologic models.

[@iseriver3982]

That sucks.

[@AslanW]

Holy hell that sounds like a complete and utter nightmare.. I don't even know what to say.

[@weareallbornmad410]

I don't understand. Why would they do that?

[@aussieevonne7857]

Yikes! That's bad. By the way, I'm curious: what are foot scooters? You mean like motorised bikes?

[@iseriver3982]

@@weareallbornmad410 humans are stupid.

[@ericbosken3114]

This reminds me of an old joke: Internists know everything and do nothing. Surgeons know nothing and do everything. Pathologists know everything and do everything, but too late.

[@zwerko]

It's difficult to convince people that they've been scammed if their salaries depend on not knowing. That's exactly what happened at the Karolinska Institutet and why it took so long to admit that Macchiarini was a fraudster and to kick him out.

[@ExperimentIV]

speaking swedish sucks because then i see people write “the karolinska institutet” which means The The Karolinska Institute. use Karolinska Institutet or The Karolinska Institute it’s Weird otherwise

[@ExperimentIV]

i realise that saying anything about this is a fool’s errand so you don’t have to take it seriously lmao i just wanted to say it

[@ExperimentIV]

@Vergilius Brutus jag är inte ens svensk utan kanadensisk! jag började lära mig svenska när jag var yngre för att jag hade ett jättejobbigt liv och var helt galen (jag var en tonåring, förstås). det kanske kan vara varför det känns så konstigt när jag ser “the karolinska institutet” i nån mening på youtube. also, sorry, i’m really rusty.

[@RICDirector]

It isn't, actually...some do appreciate knowing the proper way to reference the institution. Thanks!

[@ExperimentIV]

@Vergilius Brutus instead of learning quenya, i learned finnish in university. close enough, right?

[@JustOneAsbesto]

This video was very hard for me to watch. I have personally been mistreated by several doctors. But it very much needed to be said. Thank you, Rohin.

[@bazoo513]

I knew of none of these. The most disheartening is the role Karolinska had in this. How are we going to trust their Nobel selections ever more?

[@Malleonardone]

Even worse: some of the people who were culpable, like Anders Hamsten, were highly involved in the Nobel Committee.

[@maganashaker167]

Noble prizes have pretty much lost all their prestige, you can award them to anyone these days

[@thedolcetto81]

I guess that after the Nobel peace prize to Obama we shouldn't be too surprised

[@Malleonardone]

@@thedolcetto81 The committees are separate for each prizes... but the Peace Prize has been a joke for a long time. At least since Vietnam. Not saying that the Physiology/Medicine committee aren't awful. After all, they did give one for lobotomy....

[@ulwur]

@@Malleonardone and the "Swedish Academy" who awards the price in literature practically self imploded because of a rape scandal.

[@sean..L]

The fact that the people who spoke up about the fraud were punished is another reason why fame-chasers are allowed to continue on making unsubstantiated claims. When the truth isn’t treated with respect liars will scam their way to the top unchecked.

[@ThisisBarris]

Only one cult I follow and that’s Rohinism

[@MedlifeCrisis]

The officially accepted term is Rohinduism, my child.

[@veganchocolates7344]

@@MedlifeCrisis Any specific dietary restrictions to be aware of?

[@ThisisBarris]

@@MedlifeCrisis pardon me father

[@AdityaPuranik1]

@@veganchocolates7344 If you have heart problems then don’t chug 12 cans of Monster.

[@jano1574]

@@veganchocolates7344as any cardiologist would tell you, a mediterranean diet has its benefits. but please, do as I say, don't do as I do.

[@sharpphilip]

Dr. Francis, I’d most like to hear your advice on how a layperson can be medically literate and a properly-skeptic self-advocate without, you know, blithely citing a Tweet at one’s doctor or falling for hyped wellness nonsense. If you fancy a go at this with Difficulty set to 8 on the Neo•Geo scale, direct your thoughts specifically at patients in suboptimal healthcare environments-like here in the US, for example.

[@wholefoodplantbasedmama5398]

Oh what a valid question. I am finishing my graduate diploma in lifestyle medicine and was a nurse for five years before switching to other studies. While I have a background in medicine, the number of so called specialists in health and wellness is overwhelming. `many doctors are not trained in nutrition and few have healthy lifestyles themselves so their advice is basically useless because it is not grounded in evidence. I would love to hear this chaps ideas on a comparison between the Wellness industry (IMHO full of scammers) and `lifestyle medicine practitioners who are board certified.

[@margodphd]

I think you just can't forego scientific literacy. Learning the basics of high school science - especially biology, chemistry and physics - from sources like khan academy, crash course, many wonderful KZbin channels. Learning is extremely rewarding and can be fun. My mom was sceptical, being retired, but she really caught on. Learn,be curious, question everything.

[@Tomas-ml9nv]

I could not help but burst out laughing when you recalled Paolo Macchiarinis' wedding guests. Vladimir Putin , Barack Obama, Bill and Hillary Clinton , THE POPE , Nicholas Sarkozy and RUSSELL CROWE 😂😂 Fantastic video. I had wondered what had happened to Sergio canavero , I remember hearing of him years ago.

[@mirzaahmed6589]

At first I thought the love parallelogram included Macchiarini, Putin, the Pope, and Russell Crowe.

[@klaranilsson8967]

This was so well done! A bliss to see aspects in this I haven't thought of before. I do wonder what your thoughts are on the charisma or charm of these people! I think it plays a part in why this got this far, at least with Macchiarini, that I vaguely remember someone testified to.. I see the story as a manifestation of the human desire for a leader that is charming but determined, the strong man. He showed no doubt, no remorse. And that is by many the signs of a good leader, while it is quite the opposite. So I think you are absolutely right, this will happen again.

[@mackieincsouthsea]

Watched a few of Doctor Mike recently and thought of you sighing at the high production value and largely obvious guidance 😂

[@liriodendronlasianthus]

I used to enjoy him until boat-gate. He put his "apology" on his second channel and frankly, didn't even apologize.

[@hydranes]

@@liriodendronlasianthus do you mind elaborating? I watch one of his videos every so often, but not often enough to know of any drama.

[@_the_]

@@hydranes He had a party on a boat without any mask on during the midst of the pandemic last summer. And he oviously hung out around a lot of girls without much clothes whose sole purpose seemed to be appealing, but that's a different thing for itself. It was that he didn't follow the covid rules as a doctor, which seems hyporcitical

[@ballboys835]

@@hydranes In Nov 2020 I think, he was seen on a party boat celebrating his birthday maskless with around 12 people aboard. At that time, lockdown was happening, and CDC guidelines were to have 8 or fewer people on a boat at any given time with masks on. Definitely would be considered excessive now, but the hypocrisy of parroting the CDC and at the same time being on this party boat was a big rub for people. I was one of the many who got pretty salty about this issue, but frankly there's been worse hypocrisy throughout the pandemic by more important people.

[@liriodendronlasianthus]

@@ballboys835 I'm better off watching Rohin. Yes, Dr Mike didn't kill anyone but his apology video really hit the nail in the coffin for me. I would rather not give him my subscription/view and he'll be fine without a few views anyway.

[@Kim_Miller]

Congratulations on Nebula reaching half a million subs. I joined it when you first started up and it's good to see it growing. And the irony of this video and Nebula's half million people is that today the US reached one million covid deaths, sadly many of them because of the 'celebrity doctor' falsehoods.

[@tanya5322]

I was thinking much the same thing.

[@muaries12]

I remember the first 3d printed sternum printed to exactly match the patient during the operation and it blew my mind. But its bone replacemet. A small step forward. But a plastic traquea? Dear Lord

[@adammcinnes5615]

It's not as crazy as it sounds as we do use plastics like PCL to make scaffolds in tissue engineering research (and plastic had been used to successfully make scaffolds). The trachea scaffolds though were inconsistent in the types of plastic being used and were also incapable of being attached to a blood supply. There are so many problems with what he did.

[@picahudsoniaunflocked5426]

That "dream" wedding sounds terrifying + deeply unpleasant to me.

[@comradegarrett1202]

Very few people on KZbin have communicated an understanding of science and evidence based medicine as good as yours. Sometimes the extreme fervor that people pour into "science enthusiasm" can be nearly as dangerous as the anti-science conspiracy types.

[@alwaysclassical3564]

I would say.. at this point the science enthusiasm is worse as it often gets pushed and amplified by the media and more official channels that spread a veneer of respectability. Meanwhile 'anti vax' along with actual genuine taboo breaking topics gets pushed into the fringes. The question we should ask is why certain topics seems to get rhe adoration and attention such as the cases he describes here and others (whatever their actual validity) are immediately ignored or vilified.

[@comradegarrett1202]

@@alwaysclassical3564 well, I think the answer as to why antivax ideology is vilified is pretty obvious - it's just straight up a bad idea and that's patently obvious to anyone with the faintest idea of how vaccines work. Now, why unscientific sham-science gains popularity - including antivax ideas, by the way - I think is a deeper matter of appealing to institutions and ideological frameworks that people already trust and subscribe to. If you already distrust the government (even for legitimate reasons), antivax ideas would slot into that distrust neatly, and you might believe it on its face without bothering to read the evidence in favor of vaccine efficacy (e.g. the results of clinical trials, the marked reduction in severe disease rates after mass vaccination, etc). conversely if you already put a lot of stock into the scientific process as the way to ensure a better future (even because of its real, demonstrable benefits) you might be much more likely to believe outlandish and futuristic claims on their face if they seem "scientific" enough, without bothering to read or examine the evidence or proposed mechanism. false beliefs, imo, tend to operate similarly, no matter their source.

[@lsmmoore1]

If the self-driving car hype is any indication, THIS. Especially considering that AIs are not smart enough to continue to identify the objects in a living room correctly when you add an elephant to it. An interface like that isn't smart enough to drive you. No matter how useful a self-driving car would be for accessibility, or how it would allow someone like me to read on a driving commute. Because that isn't any good if the technology doesn't work outside the most sterile and controlled conditions (and perhaps not even then because unpredictable factors can end up there too). Seriously, if some of the new things coming out are any indication, we are probably literally closer to developing an IRL analogue of elven rope of the kind made in Lothlórien which Galadriel gifts to Frodo and Sam than we are to making self-driving cars.

[@syasyaishavingfun]

@@lsmmoore1 as long as anything can reduce cost it will be used. All logistics companies are salivating on self driving cars.

[@lsmmoore1]

@@syasyaishavingfun And of course them using those will be a disaster - they aren't ready yet. Right now, they aren't even really ready enough for corner-cutting companies to use them.

[@sinephase]

I was taught in highschool this happened with Newton and his theory of light (and many other things, I'm sure) and his arguments against Christiaan Huygens. People just assumed Newton was correct because of his popularity and it hurt the careers of the people he argued against using bad data and poor experimentation. I think it's set us back and continues to do so, although far less so now than it did. I think it's both an artifact of the past and a human trait and the answer has been the same; rigorous scientific theory and proof.

[@nivekakninblarg8076]

Newton: I invented gravity.

[@eliscanfield3913]

I was hanging out at a stitch-and-gab one time when (after I'd mentioned my spouse's blindness) this woman started to regale me with what her husband (supposedly an ophthalmologist) was doing with stem cells. He was supposedly curing everything from autism to strokes to glaucoma. smh. Added on top? This is a university town with a medical school & 3 big hospital systems. Her husband's office was miles away from any of them so he clearly was doing his so-called research on his own in some burb's business zone

[@PeterJavi]

> supposedly an ophthalmologist Sure, I believe this. > He was supposedly curing everything from autism to strokes to glaucoma Wait a second. Now I'm not a medical professional, but that is psychology, neurosurgery and ophthalmology. Two out of these three things is not like the other for an ophthalmologist.

[@rdizzy1]

There is TONS of pseudoscience going around involving stem cells, it is the new homeopathy. Tons of illegal clinics around getting shut down all the time for their ridiculous medical claims, very rampant in Mexico and various other areas of central and south america too.

[@eliscanfield3913]

@@PeterJavi That's why I say "supposedly." It *is* possible that he's an md gone bad, of course, but the "cures" contain more bs than a cow pasture.

[@ettinakitten5047]

We can't even figure the exact mechanism or mechanisms for autism in the brain, no way are we able to cure it with stem cells. (Also, curing autism is a *lot* more controversial and ethically questionable than a lot of people realize, and can easily end up sounding more like "destroying a person to replace them with someone else who looks like them and shares their memories but isn't really them anymore". But that's another matter.)

[@eliscanfield3913]

@@ettinakitten5047 no arguments from _me_. I don't think there's any real stem cell work on DH's variety of blindness, either. God, that woman was a trip.

[@jimbob8949]

“Their own Personal Jesus MD”, excellently thought out play on words.

[@Jules_Pew]

I think most of the problem is the press reporting thing way before it's actually practical. Came to to that conclusion over eating liver while pregnant. Pre first pregnancy - good, during first pregnancy bad, second good, third bad. The press doesn't care about worrying people, just headlines.

[@christinfranklin1333]

, that's just like how every other year they changed the way your baby should sleep one year the back has bigger chance of causing sids then next thing you know it's the other way around

[@lenitaa7938]

This likely stems from the extreme pressure the medical scientists and professors are held under to PRODUCE NEW Research findings on a regular basis! Otherwise, they get no Grants nor educational Chairs, etc! That is why we need to read such media publications carefully! Often the claims are stated as hypothetical and ‘maybe’! Unfortunately, the public sees these as ‘facts’ and that’s the media’s fault for presenting them as such and constant all-over-the-media flooding with these hypothetical research findings! Repeated often enough, and people take it as gospel truth! The Doctors repeat these findings, also, I presume, due to pressure of being held liable later if they do not!

[@bananatassium7009]

the details in this video really remind me of Jan Hendrik Schon, another complete researcher fraud that had a very interesting video series made by the KZbin channel BobbyBroccoli - it's quite interesting to see the how pervasive this problem is within academia

[@Queenmania2007]

Great video, enjoy the longer format. Well presented and with some bangers of jokes in there too. Keep the content coming!

[@olli3b3ar27]

‘He claimed to be an on call global team of doctors who responded to VIP emergencies, which i know isn’t true cos i haven’t seen him at any of our meetings’ , still haven’t stopped laughing at this one and it’s been a few minutes. Have you ever considered being a comedian cos there’s some seriously well written jokes in your videos.

[@davidmay135]

New background looking like my grandmother’s curtains

[@MedlifeCrisis]

That's kind of because they literally are. Still in search of a regular place to film!

[@RICDirector]

Well, if you come to California, you can film in my barn....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@JT29501]

One of your best videos yet! Very funny and well presented. If that is your new editor doing their job, then keep paying them!

[@gingeridot]

Oh yes, the way academia is structured and incentivizes this really should be the topic of another video, I'd love to watch it! And tbqh, this didn't even feel like a 25+ minute video, it could have gone on, at least for me 😂👍🏻

[@liammhodonohue]

I still can't believe these guys think they can get away with it. I still struggle to understand what William Summerlin was thinking when painting mice to fake successful transplantation.

[@ragnkja]

@@liammhodonohue Wait, what? Painting mice?

[@gingeridot]

@@liammhodonohue same... but wait, painting mice?!

[@eerielconstantine5051]

Omg don’t even get me started. I worked at a university lab for almost three years and went through low pay, doing the work of 10 people according to the 10 people doing the same work I was in our rival lab, having to work two hours just to pay for a day of parking (cuz I made 11.50$ but it was 13$ to park), not getting a raise the whole time bc the university didn’t think ‘students were interested in growing’ (wtf), the insane corruption in peer review journals (someone on the panel didn’t like my boss and so postponed, sent back, and ignored our lab’s submission til we finally got it published), and didn’t communicate with me when work was finishing but they didn’t want to pay unemployment so they kept me on doing the same stuff even though the data was literally not being used, the website I used to work stopped working for two months and when I asked for updates from the guy in charge of the website he said he’d let me know when it was back up, but I had to pay rent and was paid hourly only when I worked so I had already gotten another job for back up some months prior that paid better, so I decided to resign. Good riddance and never again, I’ll stick to the private sector. I forgot to add that on top of all this I had a two hour round trip commute 🫠

[@Slippindisc]

The people that go around claiming to “trust science” genuinely don’t seem to understand the scientific method.

[@LightPink]

If a homie wants to watch a similar story about scientific fraud in physics my boy Bobby Broccoli made a great three part series about Jan Hendrix Schön.

[@Foolish188]

Excellent series.

[@adityapathak5761]

Now Bobby Broccoli is quite the catchy name

[@Scubadooper]

Reminds of the tale of the three Chinese brothers who were doctors: The eldest was known throughout the land as an extraordinary doctor who could heal almost anyone, The middle brother was know throughout their home region The youngest wasn't know outside of his village Both of the older brothers said their younger sibling was the best doctor, because people in his village didn't get sick.

[@davidashmore3929]

Excellent video Rohin. I am looking forward to the next Tom Scott video, I joined the Jackson 5 reunion tour, it wasn't what I expected.

[@X-boomer]

Maybe you do some heart surgery video tutorials. I’d watch those. There used to be a program on cable TV called “Operation” (I think) that was just a surgeon perform a notably challenging surgical procedure while talking the viewer through it. It was absolutely fascinating.

[@bazoo513]

"If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is" - that's exactly what I thought when reading on metformin, then freshly prescribed for my just discovered mild type II diabetes. Well, it this rare occasion, it pretty much lived up to the hype.

[@patrickb4620]

Metformin despite the intestinal problems might be the only true wonder drug around.

[@Tartar]

@@patrickb4620 You could claim that for any of the 479 medications of the WHO List of Essential Medicines. Things like Aspirin, Paracetamol and Penicillin might not be as sexy as stem cells of genetic engineering, but it's the types of medicines that have the most impact on our day-to-day life.

[@bazoo513]

@@patrickb4620 Yup. I even developed mild intestinal problems, as promised! :o)

[@RICDirector]

Lactic acidosis was too un-fun for me and i went straight to insulin....

[@hollanderson]

@@Tartar Yeah, exactly. Imodium has improved my quality of life so incredibly much since a doctor recommended it once, and it's just an over the counter cheap med.

[@yorkieandthechihuahua]

Funnily enough, when I think of superstar doctors I think of You, Doctor Mike, Mama Doctor Jones, Doctor Hope etc... I might be skewed since I'm a youtuber not a tv watcher. I also tend to approach the information you give as "this is what I've heard from a doctor who seems to be reliable, if new evidence comes forward reassess." Not that I'm best equipped to reassess of course.

[@Fireclaws10]

The difference is these youtube doctors are generally trying to educate rather than pushing bullshit.

[@DeadInside-ct6dl]

Dr Hope is cool cause he takes the time to explain certain concepts.

[@yorkieandthechihuahua]

@@Fireclaws10 Very true. And I still approach them with an element of questioning, which I think is healthy.

[@virtualdotshelf]

great video, although i'd recommend steering clear of using 'psychopathy' and 'sociopathy' as diagnoses considering they're conditions that are on very shaky ground and terms not well liked by most psychiatrists and people w/ personality disorders.

[@ImMigrant98086]

FYI Rohin, there was a longevity ad on this video telling me to "damage my cells less and heal them more to live long"

[@theanonymouscommenter976]

"you wanna live? Just don't die."

[@CK28989]

I couldn't even focus on anything you said about the head transplant because I was transfixed trying to think about who the potential "patient" would be for such a procedure.

[@unintentionallydramatic]

Ladies and gentlemen, please let me sing Let me tell a story so hideous and grim It is just as crooked as a tortellini It is about the surgeon Paolo Macchiarini It was in Stockholm, Sweden, 2010 A surgeon was recruited by enterprising men They celebrated with Champagne and Martini Hooray! We got the superstar Paolo Macchiarini He wanted to facilitate the patients' respiration With advanced medical regeneration He thought outside the box and anything goes So he planted stem cells on a garden hose But some people were somewhat skeptical What if the new trachea did not stick at all? But no one likes a naysaying genie So they cheered and bowed to Paolo Macchiarini The next year in Stockholm, opening night The OR was packed, everybody wanted a bite But Paolo loved animals, protocol be cursed So he tried the operation on humans first In fancy papers he described his victory And soon he operated patient 2 and 3 But he forgot to mention something very odd How the first patient was coughing up blood

[@liam_hurlburt]

Original video from Henrik Widegren: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKWoYWh3Z9R8q8k

[@ragnkja]

To the tune of “Balladen om herr Fredrik Åkare och den söta fröken Cecilia Lind”

[@RICDirector]

m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/hoPCioBsha6ig8U another version (backing rythym etc) from Dr Weidegren

[@christinfranklin1333]

That was actually very catchy LOL

[@sunte91]

Henrik is a funny guy, had him lecture/entertain before Christmas a couple of years ago (Lund University) People should check out his music 🎶

[@susmitislam1910]

"... a full recovery" Was low-key hoping for a chubbyemu cameo here

[@CAThompson]

...He thought.

[@jonathanshiff562]

My life was ruined by a superstar doctor. His name is Dr Lenke from NYC. I had a 54 degree curve in my spine which means I had minor kyphosis. He performed a 13 level fusion on my spine. My torso in now immobile. I am depressed and do not leave my house.

[@Yu-hx5jo]

Absolutely horrible !! My condolences

[@retinapeg1846]

Let's start the medlife crisis cult. We shall adenosine ourselves to transend into the post cardioverted world.

[@JamesDecker7]

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[@mikieswart]

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[@brongulus2617]

"Because I've never seen him at any of our meetings" Now that's the sense of humor I come here for

[@paolacarmichael611]

Im autistic so I thought "there are secret meetings for these things???" "Is he allowed to talk about these secret meetings so publicly???"

[@EarthworksAudio]

A fascinating deep-dive, well done! Plus you sound great with your ICON Pro :)

[@gupadre8255]

Ohhhhh you make the mic!!!!!!!

[@alkane2561]

As someone who dropped out of med school I have too much fun watching your videos

[@0deepak]

Cough Cough Dr Mike partying without a mask during the pandemic.

[@liriodendronlasianthus]

This! That "apology" video was garbage.

[@stephangg000]

Hello! loved this video. I was a physics undergrad entering medschool this cycle. Allot of this reminds me of Jan Hëndrik Schol in the world of physics. There's an excellent video on the subject by "broly broccoli". For those interested in the super star phenomenon but in another field, I HIGHLY suggest it. Cheers and once again great video!

[@solus5635]

Henrik Widegren is our national treasure

[@RICDirector]

Nowhere near well enough known, either. Hope this video helps; he is such an awesome humorist! Any time I am depressed, I review his presentation on fractures in the elderly...so tongue in cheek and utterly hysterical.

[@aleckingsnorth3392]

Great commentary. Very thoughtful.

[@amarug]

A weird observation, but all these docs, including Canavero were Italian originally. Also in Zurich Switzerland, there was a scandal recently about one of the worlds most prestigious chairs in heart surgery, and the doctor was also Italian. I have researched the past ten years with mostly Italian people and I find them some of the most integer, smart, creative, hard-working and overall great colleagues you could wish for. It's just weird observation here....

[@passerby4507]

I can see the headlines: fraudulent behaviour in Homo sapiens linked to regular consumption of pasta and pizza

[@FranciT98]

As an Italian, I'm disappointed but not all that surprised. There's a side of Italy that very much celebrates that spirit of fraud, arrogance and debauchery that seems to be the root cause behind these doctors' actions. The irony of this is that these people feed off of the genuine hard work that goes into building the good reputation we have in research and science.

[@Dinkleberg2845]

Catholic mysticism runs deep in Italy. Supposed miracle healers such as Padre Pio are still revered today.

[@zeideerskine3462]

It really started with Christiaan Barnard, though, and he was a Dutchman from South Africa or Afrikaaner if you will.

[@amarug]

@@FranciT98 Thank you for your insights. As I said, personally, I have only witnessed the opposite - and I have worked with many many Italians.

[@DamienDrake2389]

Anyone who says they are amazing should raise red flags. People who are genuine let their work do the talking and don't embellish their own reputation. This entire story is absolutely crazy! The fact that he hasn't been prosecuted for medical negligence, manslaughter, committing medical fraud and tampering with medical evidence is just crazy to me! To try to convict him of assault is really setting the bar low! And after his sentence, he still has his license!?!?! He should have his license revoked and should be spending the rest of his life behind bars! Have any of his surgeries been successful in the past? He's a pathalogical liar, narcissistic manipulator and as fake as they come. There should be a separate governing body to monitor the medical industry because they are clearly as capable of conducting internal investigations as the police are!

[@arkoprovo1996]

Thank You. This needed saying, though, would you also talk on this topic, about India? Because I don't think there's any shortage of celebrity doctors, and more so, in the public mind - which is also why homeopathy is so prevalent, especially in Kolkata.

[@Mukawakadoodoo]

Even allopathic doctors are trash

[@antlerman7644]

The scan centre of the world. That doesn't suprise me one but sadly. It's a shame scams and fruads are ruining the reputation of your beautiful country.

[@HomoSapien-z5q]

I watched the documentary on Swedish television about Paulo Maccarini and what he did to his patients was simply heartbreaking One of Maccarini's patients was accually relatively healthy. She was a young mother from Russia who agreed to getting a plastic trachea becasuse she was told she'd be able to sing to her son She didn't make it.

[@33333ELISA]

That's f.. up

[@apexxxx10]

*Il Dottore where is the super narcissist, surgeon today? Is he locked up somewhere in Sweden? Greetings from sunny tropical Thailand Johnny BikeSanooK!*

[@HomoSapien-z5q]

@@apexxxx10 He was sentenced to prison in may and won't be able to practice medicine once he gets out. To quote him after the trial "I have lost everything"

[@ginnyjollykidd]

Louisville, Kentucky? I am very sorry to hear that such a medical scientist fell into the world of fraud when we can boast of the second successful (truly!) full hand reattachment in the world. (France beat us to the first one.) Our city boasts an excellent medical community and medical school. Please do not judge us on one bad apple.

[@mauthful]

"we struggle to turn our battleships around" - what a lovely turn (ha!) of phrase!

[@nopahrefa4466]

I'm always a bit conflicted about the whistleblower/retaliation situation - like, no argument karolinska should have investigated when the report came to them, but they are ALSO not wrong to be like hey, how did you get access to confidential patient records, that is a crime there is no free-for-all access to medical records, unless you have my consent or are very specifically my treating health care professional, you should not be in my records. Or, if part of research, file with the ethics board to get the data, same as anyone else. But on the third hand, I'm thankful they did find him and stopped his killing patients for fame and being A Big Name In Medicine, and getting raw data out of fraudulent labs is Difficult (tm)

[@mayaenglish5424]

I don't know how it is in other countries but in America I think we _Theoretically_ are supposed to have protection for whistleblowers for that exact reason. Because it's probably not going to be legal to get information to the necessary people. But stopping a Murderer vs violating HIPPA... I think I'll violate HIPPA lol sorry. It's absolutely ridiculous to punish people for doing the right thing just because they broke the law to get there. That's a recipe for letting bad people get away with Murder, literally. (And worse.) Obviously it's a case by case basis and you have to evaluate if the laws they broke were necessary to getting the truth to the right place, and that they didn't take any extra liberties, but come on, people are in an impossible situation if they can't break confidentiality if they learn something criminal without going to jail themselves. Are we just supposed to expect people to martyr themselves for us? Because what are laws if not a great communal effort to enact the greatest good possible? (Obviously it's not perfect I don't feel like getting into that particular debate right now lol just go with it.) So not all laws are 100% applicable 100% of the time. Mitigating circumstances exist, or should, in my opinion. There are levels of wrong from Jaywalking to Arson and the morality behind the enforcement of each law punishing one is different depending on the reason behind the infraction. Which is why those "If this than that" types of laws are so important. (I'm very clearly not a lawyer lol.) We have different categories of killing for a reason even if the result is the same, from murder to manslaughter etc., because intent and circumstance matters. That follows with everything else surely?

[@nopahrefa4466]

@@mayaenglish5424 I mean, absolutely, I'm conflicted because I believe strongly in privacy protections, but _also_ believe strongly in like, not murdering people. But the specifics of this case is that the whistleblowers a) didn't file their report until 2 other unrelated parties had flagged for irregularities, which seems more like a trying to avoid sinking with the ship thing than a sudden case of a conscience, and b) they didn't get reported to the police, they are not held liable for their role in the research or the surgeries even though they were involved, THEY are not currently on trial for vållande av kroppsskada or manslaughter or assault, because they are whistleblowers and thus protected. They did get a 'junior members with mitigating circumstances' tag on their malpractice citation. I don't think it's retaliatory to be like "hey, you DID do scientific malpractice for 4 years before reporting this" does the malpractice not count because you own up to it or someone else did it worse? Karolinska fucked up, both the hospital and the school, fucked up so hard, and are culpable. Macchiarini, I hope, will be convicted. But I'm just saying, in this story _no one_ involved is coming out smelling of roses.

[@mayaenglish5424]

@@nopahrefa4466 Ah, well that's different and I don't know enough about the case specifics to debate what should happen to those people. But yeah if they are doing it to try to dodge liability for their own actions, there's a bit of ambiguity there. Judging peoples intentions is sometimes quite difficult. It is a question for me of, what did you know and when and how long did you wait once you found out? Because even smart people can be fooled by things for a while, there could be falsified data, etc, so you never know what's really in someone's heart. As I'm unfamiliar with the case other than the generalities, like I said, Your point a) seems to me that it would only be relevant to their decision if they knew about it before hand in relation to fleeing a sinking ship. Could very well be. Or they could have seen that and gone, "oh shit", then looked into it and blown the whistle once they realized the truth, or They could have been ignorant of the previous flagged irregularities and found things later, etc. No idea. Again, I'd have to look into the matter to make any statement that wasn't utter speculation lol. My comment was more about the institution of whistleblowing in general.

[@Dodgerzden]

I thought everyone knew that head transplants are not necessary. All you need is a decapitated head and a snow globe full of water to animate it. Hasn't anyone seen Futurama? Nixon is still not a crook.

[@gabrielbialik2599]

Why did you steal my grandmas curtains? (great video btw)

[@LockandKeyHyena]

your channel is incredible!! very good delivery and interesting stuff! instant sub

[@gentlemandemon]

as somebody who's worked in regenerative medicine and stem cells, it's so strange watching the things that people will accept uncritically. I'm not exempt from this, but I can see it happening so clearly in real time because of the things I've studied. it's a shame because there's good work being done, but it's niche and technical advancement. People want big solutions though, so they latch onto theory without factoring in the actual state of the science at present.

[@peggedyourdad9560]

Oh wow, that's really interesting. What kind of stuff have you actually helped work on?

[@gentlemandemon]

@@peggedyourdad9560 I did some stuff looking at a mechanism mesenchymal cells use to heal kidney injuries based on some promising data showed they could do it in rat models. I've done some other stuff, but that's a big one I did.

[@peggedyourdad9560]

@@gentlemandemon That does sound huge, I'm sure it will take a while for human trials (if there will be any), but that's still really cool. What are some of the smaller projects you've been a part of if you don't mind sharing?

[@gentlemandemon]

@@peggedyourdad9560 it was definitely interesting, but I'm cutting out some detail for brevity. it really was a niche study. I've bounced around academicabs for years, so it would be a lot to spell out lol

[@peggedyourdad9560]

@@gentlemandemon Oh, ok then.

[@realleon2328]

I would love a book about the historical great man doctors, I can only imagine that there are dozens of super interesting personalities and stories under that umbrella. It would be an extremely compelling nonfiction read.

[@joshuaferrara9125]

well that was a great watch. On another note the Doctor singing the song has some serious chops at playing and singing! Kudos to both Doctors. The internet thanks you for your service. P.S as some of Italian heritage I am outraged by the correct use of the word "Spaghetto". Stay in your lane mate

[@apexxxx10]

*Il Dottore where is the super narcissist, surgeon today? Is he locked up somewhere in Sweden? Greetings from sunny tropical Thailand Johnny BikeSanooK!*

[@yugioh395]

Why is the ballad an absolute banger? 🔥

[@benny_lemon5123]

20 seconds in and im beside myself with excitement to learn what a love parallelogram is 👍

[@petermarksteiner7754]

The cook, the thief, his wife, and her lover. Or, the journalist, the doctor, his wife, and his mistress.

[@tactileslut]

More sides than a triangle.

[@Т1000-м1и]

As you said that knowing less makes scams easier to spot, I must as well say that 18:38 sounds like a part of one

[@zicada7661]

The Jackson 5 analogy was excellent 👌