Meet The MALE CHEETAH | Sebastian Ballesteros

[@benjaminacuna8013]

The irony of Sebastian is that he’s a sexist yet Circe tolerated him and she’s a known misandrist in the comics

[@newguy90]

To be fair, he gives up his beans and frank when he embraces the power of the Cheetah, so "point" Circe I guess.

[@CieJe.Alexander]

Lynda Carter WW: he obviously has little regard for womanhood he must learn respect. 💥

[@DSan-kl2yc]

Sounds like a rom com

[@Facade953]

United by sexism!😅

[@rajamicitrenti1374]

I could go along with Sebastian's sexism corrupting the god if they had gone through some sort of negotiation like "NO, I won't give you my power. You are a dude. I reserve that for women." "Oh, how's that been working out for you?" "Well, the last one lied to me. And they haven't been very good at hunting big game..." "See, that's why it needs to change! Be open to new ideas, and you can find ways to get better results!" It would even play into Sebastian's backstory of cosying up with powerful people for his own benefit.

[@blythebigcatbiologist3657]

I like the idea of both Minerva and Sebastian fighting over the mantle. With Minerva eventually winning but also Sebastian living and trying to fight Wonder Woman without being Heetah and this arch could maybe put some more power into Minerva seeing that Urzkartaga is willing to take her powers away

[@artemiswolf4508]

The plant god is bisexual, Sebastian may be sexist but at least he’s not homophobic

[@DIEGhostfish]

I mean, many plants are effectively Hermaphroditic.

[@Esme097]

Why I never heard about him before? As an Argentian,i feel so honored by the fact that they used actual things that happened in our country for his back story. The impact of the dictator's government is still strong to this days,since hundred of families lost their loved ones and a lot of grandmothers are still looking for their grandchildren and in school we are taught all about it so no one will forget about what happened in honor to the victims. Thank you for covering it!

[@Hogtownboy1]

"we are thought all about". I you know meant "we are taught all about"

[@KarlKristofferJohnsson]

@@Hogtownboy1 If you're gonna correct people on their word choice, you should probably structure your sentence in a way that makes sense.

[@redonyx5428]

Since Cheetah's dont have manes my headcanon is that Sebastian is wearing a lace front 'cause he looks cooler.

[@stevenpage3216]

Wow! Dark African god, Reed Richard hair streaks, AND questionable comic book censorship all combine to give us....Evil Lion-O? Well, the covers were cool!

[@Facade953]

It looks like Lion-O and Cheetara went busy once Thundercats went off the air.😅

[@River-pg1uk]

All of a sudden I think the cheetah god is just salty all the other cheetahs failed to kill Wonder Woman

[@kalebsantos72]

Either that or the ancient Cheetah God just happens to be an incel

[@willsword8100]

this just makes me want to talk about THUNDERCATS.

[@tarmaque]

Or how they were all naked in the pilot, but nobody noticed? (Mmmm... Naked Cheetara...)

[@HandofOmega]

Remember when Ed McGuinness left his incredibly popular run on Superman just to draw the new Thundercats comic from some indie company, just because he loved them as a kid! Which...was not a good move for him.

[@willsword8100]

@@tarmaque i remember that but never questioned it as i was just a kid.

[@willsword8100]

@@HandofOmega sometimes all it takes is a bit of nostalgia to make something crazy.

[@tarmaque]

@@willsword8100 I wasn't exactly a "kid" when _Thundercats_ was new. Early college, actually. I still woke up early to watch it though. My geek is strong.

[@wwbwbgohbc]

So if Sasha every gets a wig with Reed Richard hair streaks, does that mean we're watching a video with evil Sasha?

[@MsDecens]

You fool! We were always watching evil sasha.

[@MatthewDaly]

I'm so impressed with y'all being hung up on the mane. I'm over here still stuck on the crotch. It's just hard to buy machismo from a cat who has been fixed.

[@rc5989]

So many cheetahs! You get a cheetah, you get a cheetah, everyone gets a cheetah!!!

[@gkgk6439]

R C WE ALL GET A CHEETAH!!!

[@arpitpatel2781]

This is not the last cheetah. There is Sergei Minerva from Amalgam Universe (DC + Marvel), Cheetah from Ame-Comi (anime-inspired take on the women of the DCU) & ESTEBAN CARRACUS (CHEETAH from Marvel). There must be other characters too that I don't know.

[@lilysteffenford1719]

@@arpitpatel2781 i wonder if wonder woman is so done with the cheetah mantle since everytime she defeats one, another one pop up and takes the mantle.

[@arpitpatel2781]

@@lilysteffenford1719 Wonder woman taking up the mantle of Cheetah would be interesting. She might also take the mantle of cheetah to boost her powers. Atleast, we got to see Superman as cheetah. Lets ask sasha to do a video on Superman being Cheetah.

[@zxshadowxz]

I kinda like the idea that the more lion-like imagery with Sebastian is a sign that something is *wrong* with him receiving this power. He’s not really supposed to have it, and so it’s having to kind of mutate around him to fit into the slot properly.

[@GenerationWest]

Male Cheetah: The Spotted Lion (ThunderCat from episode 1 of the 80's series lookin' ass)

[@patrickmccarthy6430]

My hypothesis: Phil Jimenez had a poster of Rum Tum Tugger on his wall as a teenager.

[@jaydenturner3475]

a tip : you can watch movies at kaldrostream. Been using them for watching a lot of movies lately.

[@hendrixsergio5474]

@Jayden Turner Yea, been using flixzone} for since november myself :)

[@HandofOmega]

Can we talk about the Red Lion, DCs African super dictator who is basically the evil version of the Black Panther??

[@dlee827]

Also a common British pub name.

[@ThisCharmingMan1984]

D Lee You just beat me to it...well, by two days, but that’s early for me haha.

[@DIEGhostfish]

That's pretty cool actually.

[@Shamazya]

I love how you weren't taking any of it when Sebastian said: "And you were a weak willed woman..."

[@Wolfmansgeneralchannel]

Gonna be honest I wasn’t expecting this guy to exist, mainly because the thought never occurred, but also that’s a hell of a mane he’s got there

[@fromthecheapseats7126]

Ironically, it makes him look like a lion.

[@paultapner2769]

If memory serves, the Phil Jiminez run was supposed to be twelve issues, then got extended to twenty four. So killing Sebastian off was possibly a clearing of the decks to allow the next writer a clean slate. Remember Trevor Barnes? UN diplomat she was getting into a relationship with. And then suddenly they were breaking up because it hadn't worked out between them. I was thinking...why? We never really saw what happened with that relationship in between. And then Trevor got killed off by Walt Simonson in his six issue fill story that followed. I wouldn't mind to see Sebastian again though, because who hadn't been created at the time of his first appearance? El Gaucho, the hero of Argentina from Batman Incorporated by Grant Morrison. So Diana can have Barbara as her arch enemy, and he can have Sebastian. It would be cool.

[@blackrazer22]

I would not mind seeing him again either. There seems a lot more hat could be done with him.

[@ViccVegaa023]

And the real villain of the Jimenez run was Circe. Sebastian and Silver Swan were simply her superpowered stooges. Sort of like an evil Fantastic Four (OK, Reed's family aren't his stooges but sometimes he treats them as if they were) led by a Wizard and not a Scientist.

[@DIEGhostfish]

@@ViccVegaa023 But the Evil Fantastic Four WAS led by a Wizard. THE Wizard at that!

[@mr.honeycomb]

A middle-aged male virgin, who despises those he feels are beneath him, suddenly given more power than he ever should be allowed has now been emboldened to loudly proclaim his misogynist thoughts... It checks out. It's not good, but it doesn't necessarily stand out as coming out of nowhere. However, the constant 'men are better than women' nonsense being included in the Wonder Woman series could feel like it's coming out of nowhere for fans. It definitely doesn't make this character one you want sticking around for long.

[@Painocus]

I mean it's mostly lead-up to Wonder Woman showing him wrong by beating him up.

[@mr.honeycomb]

Exactly! He is deserving of a beatdown, but he is too annoying to be considered as a prolonged antagonist.

[@ExeErdna]

He was set up to die for sure especially by the True Cheetah. It's like yeah we depowered her yet she'll be fine.

[@DSan-kl2yc]

Prejudicial Stereotypes. The virgin thing is headcanon

[@AzLolFun]

Nobody: Sasha: At the time of this recording

[@bacsilva]

She's gotta say that, otherwise if they reuse him in 50 years, it is guaranteed that there will be a comment swearing at her for getting it wrong.

[@MagillanicaLouM]

@@bacsilva Sasha: a tale as old as timr

[@kuma2448]

Is so surreal seeing Wonder Woman thrashing Retiro Station, a station I visited almost weekly before the COVID Lockdown.

[@QueenTJ1991]

When I was a kid and I saw the male version of the villain Cheetah, I had nightmares. He is frighteningly menacing!

[@foxwire52]

"Man kitty". Your thumbnail game is ON POINT, thanks for that :P

[@joshuakelley849]

Man the cheetah rabbit hole goes far. Love the video! I watch every one you make. Also I bought my sister harleen after your video on it and she loves it. Keep up the good work!

[@princemasai472]

OK, that Manimal clip was worth watching. That made my day!!!

[@zachwise476]

The real life backstory was very interesting. I'd like to see a video of a compilation of real life inspired superhero storylines relating to that. Male cheetah definitely had to be a virgin a get married to a God and they said nothing about that! I'd like to think maybe they missed out on a progressive villain idea.

[@DSan-kl2yc]

That's kinda not smart. Aside from that being a retcon to a retcon. No one talked about the other cheetahs sex lives. The whole God thing wasn't even necessary. And even in ancient times you didn't have to be a Virgin to get married.

[@Bolsonaro_em_Haia]

A male Cheetah could be an interesting idea, as could the business tycoon antagonist angle. And his nationality and origin had some potential as well. But it feels like there wasn't much actually done with him at the end. Having a male antagonist in a WW story be a chauvinist is kind of lazy, albeit adequate. Veronica Cale was at hand and sort of made the business angle redundant. And I don't think that we get much of even hints on what Urkaztarga feels about either Sebastian or Barbara. All in all, considerale promise, little actual execution.

[@clutchcake7717]

Agreed.

[@HeadHunter-mv2ht]

Honestly I disliked him.

[@joeywalden9640]

Ahhhh! I see Paul Dini's Dark Night in the background. Such an amazing comic biography!

Honestly to me the most interesting aspect of the character was that he was a fellow Argentinian, and we are rarely represented in american comic books (sidenote: in the comic where we learn his backstory we can see WW fignting alongside an argentinian superhero group called Super Malon who first appeared in the Flash Annual Vol.2 #13). And on that note I really liked your little tangent on argentinian history. Very good research!

[@splashdragon]

love the new wig, also the colour coordinated makeup

[@johnm.withersiv4352]

Once you run out of DC Cheetah cat folk, you should take a look at the short lived Jaguar from Impact Comics--it was a DC imprint that revived mostly Red Circle/Archie Heroes. I loved their work on Legends of S.H.I.E.L.D. and The Web. I was a fan of The Comet. Jaguar was a stand out. The original lineup was longer lived than the later revival attempts from DC and Archie. Please wear cat ears for the Jaguar discussion, just thematically appropriate. :)

[@kingsrefuge]

"I think I need to talk to the manager" ..........ya I think I made the right choice subbing to you. lol

[@bigevil1001]

“Ballesteros was cool because Wonder Woman didn’t have a Lex Luthor like villain like that.” Veronica Cale: “EXCUSE ME!?!”

[@ukiyasenpai]

Veronica Cale happened after this run.

[@gregorywiederecht]

@@ukiyasenpai Correct. She appeared a few years after Ballesteros did....*and* did it better.😆

[@gibranvh]

"He goes to work and does a business" Ah yeah, I'm familiarized with Wall street :P

[@adam-l74]

If you’re not burnt out on Wonder Woman... how about a look at the Silver Swans?

[@jameljenks2584]

Im amused by the idea Minerva used him as the sacrifice. "Here's that punk you thought could replace me. Power. Now.

[@huwmordecai6209]

Sacha, you always look great, but I LOVE this hair! Oh, and these Cheetah vids have been so much fun.

[@christopherfox1813]

The Cheetah train doesn't have to end. Talk your favorite fights or relationships of the Cheetahs and Hetah. 👀

[@bobmathis-friedman6742]

I TITALLY agree with your assessment, Shasha; I suspect that Jiminez was influenced by editorial fiat ("hurry up, Phil...there's no time for layers"), since he's usually more careful than that about his villains. I wouldn't mind Ballesteros returning, although I was playing around with an idea for a male Formicida (THERE'S a deep dive for ya...)

[@DanielBMaximoff]

Always thought that was evil Mufasa.

[@josiesanjose1435]

What’s the longest stretch of time that you’ve kept a single hair style? What’s the shortest?

[@truefanforum3273]

Wonder Woman: You're the Cheetah?! But, you're a man...sort of." Cheetah: "Shut up!". It's not my fault the Comics Code are prudes!"

[@briannalee1998]

Lmao

[@truefanforum3273]

@@briannalee1998 Thank you!

[@martinhanke1670]

should've of gotten him a loincloth.

[@sboinkthelegday3892]

That's just the UNCOMPROMISING POWER OF THE MALE... *cough (... hormone supplements)

[@ariellakahan-harth8831]

All this male-vs-female-host stuff kept making me think of 'Hereditary'. And I would absolutely buy an 'At The Time of This Recording' T-shirt.

[@LoliMaster69227]

Karen haircut? *Shes too powerful to be left alive!*

I was going to say i like the hair, but then i realized that this is the definition of a Karen cut.

[@TarSpartan]

This is the second "Manimal" reference I have encountered today! Keep the commentary coming!

[@ultimate_lance]

When i see him all I'm thinking of is snowball from rick and morty "Where are my testicles summer?"

[@liverusrock6789]

I'm gonna assume Jimenez was reading about Argentinian history while working on the series cuz if not WTF

[@MrSafior]

Or he's Argentinian.

[@liverusrock6789]

@@MrSafior He's american but maybe he has relatives who are? Idk either those or it was the editor's idea.

[@huwmordecai6209]

Or what happened in Argentina is reasonably well known?

[@pedrovallefin8406]

It is? Honest question. I live there (here) and theres no one person that doesnt know about it, but i allways asumed that other countries (USA in particular) outside South America didnt cause through the 70s and 80s dictatures where pretty common all around SA. But is reasonably well known in yours?

[@huwmordecai6209]

I live in the UK and I was aware of this.

[@HandofOmega]

Reminds me of PUMAMAN!! Who has allthe natural abilities that Pumas have, like flight and invulnerability!

[@Mecharnie_Dobbs]

Rhino's list of powers includes 'Enhanced Agility'

[@dlee827]

Have you got a wig with grey hair streaks on the sides? Are you saving it for when you turn evil?

[@marcustaylor7562]

"For Reasons" should also be a shirt - gonna need royalties on these t-shirt ideas

[@Allups]

Reminds me of the 'yeti pimp' from the captain marvel comic.

[@1derb0y]

There have been several WW villains over the years who have been chauvinistic and sometimes blatantly misogynistic: Dr. Psycho, El Guapo, The Duke of Deception, Aegeus, The Chauvinist, etc. It is usually done to portray their misguided thinking or to underscore how "evil" they are. So that aspect of the character didn't bother me. I liked the character OK enough at the time and was genuinely surprised when he was unceremoniously killed off only a few issues later. My biggest gripe about the male Cheetah was his origin: "The Plant-God" Urzkartaga is literally just a tree sitting in a pot of dirt. How do you bargain or "negotiate" with a plant? How did Sebastian acquire Urzkartaga in the first place? None of that is ever explained in any detail.

[@minaverry]

I think you can easily get the upper hand in the negotiation by refusing to water it.

[@1derb0y]

@@minaverry haha! Didn't think of that. 😅

[@zombiekilldemon]

Another amazing video. I wanted to ask if you can do a Milestone video soon. Static, Icon, Rocket, Hardware, and every other amazing far ahead their time character they produced. Then WILDSTORM!

[@Luke-fu5co]

I find his.... Smoothness very disconcerting.... Like... They could have given him a loin cloth? But nope, when you become a Cheetah man, you lose your pee-pee... Was he told of that before the transformation?

[@deadfred821]

It was in the Terms & Conditions; but you know dude didn’t rear the whole thing. He did like most of us; swiped down to the bottom & tapped “accept” like he was racing the clock...🤪

[@hangeloarias7580]

That way he can be the perfect bride of the plant god

[@Luke-fu5co]

@@hangeloarias7580 I hate, but also love this so much 😭😭😭😭😭😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@missa.curtis1633]

Not gonna lie. I'd buy an "At the time of this recording" t-shirt. Or a t-shirt with a salt bottle and a crown over it. What does that say about me?! 🤡

[@markevans150]

"Rahr" 😂😂😂 Love it!

[@mauvem]

I think a gender swapped version of a Hero or Villain is a fun idea, but it depends on how well it's done. This story definitely needed more development.

[@Sunstar808]

You’re on such a run. Go for a part 5. Cheetara.

[@MissBubastis]

Ah, damn, Manimal...I know it shows my age, but it was fun...

[@KierTheScrivener]

I love this. And I want yo read the Lois and Wonderwoman interview. But motivations seemed more than squandered

[@glentalbot9166]

How about a review of the Firestar villain, The Hyena. There is a male and female version as well.

[@marsupius]

Is it wrong that I liked it when she said "strap in..."

[@noahwarner1392]

"I think I need to talk to the manager" 🤣

[@adamkhan1687]

Your hair looks so good!!!!

[@jacobgroetsch7853]

YAY, SEBASTIAN. Love the hair

[@dericprieskorn]

Love the dynamic of a male cheetah/ him becoming the cheetah. Wish he could have been handled better for a longer run. Working on getting in shape to do a cosplay of him as Cheetah once comic cons can happen after this hot mess.

[@WhiteRaven696]

OMG that bob looks so cute! 😍 Yes, Sasha!

[@kingdomcomesuperman3669]

Those grey hair streaks are cursed in comic books, people in comics should invest in hair dye.

[@Blue5Standingby]

Yes KINGDOM COME SUPERMAN

[@AesculapiusPiranha]

LEAVE STEPHEN STRANGE ALONE

[@srstriker6420]

8:22 yeah because this is like Venom and Carnage

[@lb2.0.45]

Oh no Sasha has turned into a Karen 🤣🤣🤣

[@dennismason3740]

I am shaming the writer of that story. I'd hate to be a staff artist. So many obvious possibilities not covered until about 10 years ago when Cheetah made Diana her confessor.

[@doyscherr]

Your review of Cheetah is great. I would like to hear your take in Angle Man

[@Woolybuzz]

That thumbnail........ brilliant

[@gaby132]

Wow I learned so much! I would love to see more of him, he has so much Potential.

[@DarkLordbyNight]

Mantarrah, part man part cheetah part Thundercat 🤣😂 with his Fabio mane, ok Sebastian we see u not 4 long 😂

[@joelsmith5461]

I'd love tp see Sebastian come back but not as a male version of The Cheetah. They could bring him back as a different cat-inspired villain like The Jaguar...or maybe Lion-Mane who was previously an villain that went up against Hawkman and Batwing before the Rebirth universal

[@keanuorange690]

This was my favorite Cheetah history video so far mostly for how messy his story is.

[@craftysean945]

Or they could have gone with a jaguar themed bad guy and left Cheetah alone. Just saying :P

[@kingcheerio8558]

There was an opportunity for a Thundercats joke and I'm so sad it didn't happen

[@saturnianrings3920]

That hair is so cute! I love it.

[@bleukat]

The classism of his back story and his quest for power made sense. The sexism at the end feel like another writer who didn’t do his homework stepped in and thought a dude fighting WW, must be sexist. One note indeed.

[@bleukat]

And he SHOULD of had the cheetah swim cap!

[@AesculapiusPiranha]

Well, if the ritual worked he definitely has some repressed feelings going on...

[@101000102]

Big Video Idea, Discuss what was the “end results” of the biggest comic events for the big two (Marvel/DC). For example; Secret War “end results” (not necessarily a summation) was that Spider-Man got the symbiot, Crisis On Infinite Earth corrected the “too many Earths” problem (for a time), etc.

[@arpitpatel2781]

This is not the last cheetah. There is Sergei Minerva from Amalgam Universe (DC + Marvel), Cheetah from Ame-Comi (anime-inspired take on the women of the DCU) & ESTEBAN CARRACUS (CHEETAH from Marvel). There must be other characters too that I don't know.

[@mattphillips3537]

What makes this cheetah distinct is his first words post transformation were “sorry, this has never happened to me before”.

[@KingD-light]

he looked like a lion with spots. no leave the cheetah as a woman. that means more cat fight fights between her and wonder woman.

[@iceslick16]

I think they should bring Sebastian back, because we need more latino characters to be represented in comics today and he can work really well in today's climate with being a Democratic with dictator tendices..sounds like a lot of democratic mayors in US.

[@arpitpatel2781]

I would like Sebastian back but not as cheetah.

[@lilysteffenford1719]

In today standards only a white man can be a villain and if you make another race as a villain you're going to be branded as racist.

[@dithaingampanmei]

Oh no. The Karen hair cut! Sasha's husband needs our help!

[@zoekelly9949]

I’d like Sebastian to come back but if they do bring him back they need to drop the sexism and just make him married to the god.

[@truefanforum3273]

Actually, I think it works for his type of character. If he already looks down on the working class, why not women. That superior attitude is found in a lot of villains. Plus, seeing his sexist tail getting repeatedly kicked by Wonder Woman would be satisfying.

[@zoekelly9949]

@@truefanforum3273 yeah but it prevents him from being likable and I could see him on the suicide squad or Secret Six if he was less of a sexist.

[@truefanforum3273]

@@zoekelly9949 Eh, I don't really want my villains all that likable. I mean it can work, but it shouldn't be used too much. They are villains after all. And he could still be on those teams and be a sexist. It would add a nice inner conflict and friction you would expect to see in a group of psychoes and crooks. Heck, Guy Gardner and USAgent are colossal jerks and they manage to work with others.

[@JoeEnglandShow]

I couldn't roll my Rs either until I started learning Spanish. The trick I found is to touch your tongue to the roof of your mouth.

[@valeriag.barbosa717]

Hola soy Argentina, y no conocía la historia de Sebastián, tiene una historia de origen muy precisa en cuanto a la historia de mi pais en los setentas, las desapariciones de estudiantes y militantes que secuestraron los militares porque luchaban por la democracia. en fin lo que quiero decir es que le hubieran dado una mas sustanciosa aparición en los comics, no hay representación argentina valiosa de por su papel de villano , es más un relleno . te invito a leer el eternautas una historieta argentina seriada de ciencia ficción creada por el guionista Héctor Germán Oesterheld y el dibujante Francisco Solano López. que justamente lo desaparecieron los militares. gracias por contarme sobre Sebastian Ballesteros. saludos.

[@will2Collett]

So, "DATE NIGHT" is connected with Harley??? 🙏👍💖😁

[@dantooinefreepress4994]

A male Cheetah could play drums for Kiss.

[@olive548]

Have you ever heard about a Comic called A1: Carpe DIEm???

[@Estarfigam]

Kinda conflicted about him, the backstory is great, but the sexism.... He could have had a plan to overthrow Olympus or something and set the Cheetah god as the king. I can see that backstory be in a revamped Juggernaut. A person seeking unlimited power. Wait, that's Dr. Doom to a T. What if Dr. Doom had the power of the Juggernaut?

[@conormitchell309]

Do you have a lot of wigs or just change your hair THAT MUCH. Wondering because I’m only slightly obsessed.

[@coling8992]

Love you and all your videos!

[@st_orlie]

Can you do a tour of your comic collection?

[@MagillanicaLouM]

Also i appreciate the mostly consistent use of kitty in these cheetah thumbnails

[@mr.honeycomb]

By the way, digging the new style!

[@francescorengifo]

I LOVED THE CNC Cheetah National Convention :P