Meet the whistleblower who exposed alleged EU 'fraud'｜Brexit Tales

[@paulbuswell6566]

He's a brave man. He has my respect. So the EU has investigated itself, and found itself not guilty.....There's a shock.

[@a.n.l.aantineoliberalismas4504]

Well it has but not acted upon it

[@Isochest]

Respect to him but screw the EU and the criminals that inhabit it's hierarchy

[@alfredttarski4521]

@@Isochest its

[@steffenscheibler5849]

The EU didn't investigate itself. That statement is the same as saying 'The UK investigated itself' when in-fact a country court somewhere in the UK investigated allegations of fraud within it's jurisdiction. In some vague way, it is true, but lets be honest...not really. Wildly inaccurate generalisations are never helpful and often actively misleading. I wonder where such brazen statements have been very often (mis-) used in recent times...? Oh...yeah... Br...it. As to the story - it was followed with great interest in many countries and a great deal of resentment was generated by what was going on. And in particular about how this was handled and the gentleman in question was treated, even after numerous findings (in his favour no less!). He got a lot of respect from a lot of people while this was an active news-story.

[@johnbinnie5697]

Where there is money there is fraud and embezzlement. In almost every organization to varying extents. Look at Boris and Mogg and then there's Lords and Monarchs that take in plain sight. The way of the world.

[@ilidiocarmona4827]

all corruption must be exposed and taken to a court of justice....corruption is a enemy of democracy.....thank you sir for your bravery and honesty.

[@landlord5552]

Yes thank you sir! BUT no need to be naive', and pretend that the world is perfect..much work to do..

[@sirhumphreyappleby8399]

Corruption inevitably follows democracy

[@MrGusta650]

The thing that called "democracy" nowadays is a plutocracy so corruption is inevitable. True democracy was born in ancient Greece and died there

[@DigiWongaDude]

Corruption... Do you fully understand what it is? Do you understand entropy? Do you understand how every system eventually fails (gets corrupted). Corruption (it can be a difficult concept to absorb) is natural. No? Don't believe me? Do you understand entropy? Order towards chaos. Not the other way around.

[@charliespider7598]

"They" can avoid justice. Thats precisely what has been happening with the georgiou/elstat/eurostat scandal, the *FRAUD* ( *_please_* let them sue me for libel!!!) that economically destroyed greece beyond repair

[@psikogeek]

"exposed alleged EU 'fraud'" is worded to suggest that there is no fraud.

[@sibience]

Yes this whole story is weird. Why word it like that, it implies that the guy has zero evidence for his claim.

[@tomasbarrett7517]

It is alleged because it has not been proven in a court of law, the headline is corect.

[@CBfrmcardiff]

@@tomasbarrett7517 No, "alleged" is enough to suggest it hasn't been proven. Putting inverted commas around "fraud" suggests that what is being discussed is not, in fact, necessarily fraud, even if true.

[@CBfrmcardiff]

@Trolly McTrollface ok! I'll almost concede, but not entirely. The EU investigation doesn't regard it as 'fraud', the former EU official says it was only "incompetence and unprofessionalism", but is there any doubt that personnel with the EU are being accused of fraud? It's the nature of the accusation itself that matters, when concerning the construction of that sentence.

[@Dextrius]

I can see the technicalities, but you only get those after watching the video. But it does give you a sense of pre-judgement before.

[@Francisco_CS]

Europe needs more like him!!! Brave man!

[@paulsmith-xe4dq]

150 million each year to relocate for one month. just that one fact should be enough for anyone to see why we, the British people, want away from the EU project. Don't get me wrong we like Europe and the people of Europe, its just the political project that stinks.

[@anorthedge4422]

The EU doesn't cost you very much, so why the moans? The EU could be organised a bit better, but it's quite cost effective, compared to the British government.

[@colmivers]

The 50 year 'project' 😂

[@20quid]

Speak for yourself. As far as this British person is concerned it is Brexit that is the political project and it has already waged untold harm upon this once great nation.

[@todaysfreelancer9052]

If that's the case you should definitely look at your own parliament. Maybe you might want to pull out of the UK

[@paulsmith-xe4dq]

It costs the UK 8.9 Billion every year. If you think this is not better spent in the UK, on hospitals, Schools, Roads, Social services then maybe you should move to Germany or France.

[@bethsmith9830]

Brave man

[@kaba_me]

Brave and greedy... He has his nice pension, but he wants more.

[@brianchester4218]

Surprised he is still alive JUST SAYING

[@maxmagnus777]

@@kaba_me He deserves more. It is only just that he gets what anybody else would get in his position.

[@kaba_me]

​@@maxmagnus777 He does not deserve more just for being a whistleblower. The EU does have an effective Anti-Fraud Office, where people can report fraud safely. File a report and leak it to the press if necessary... That's all there is to it. No need to take personal risks.

[@bigpete4227]

We used to have the lords, the commons and local authorities. Now we have two houses in Europe, two houses in London, regional assemblies and then local authorities. I wonder why we’re broke?

[@ThePp12345678]

It also deliberately makes it hard to keep up with who is putting what rules regulations and Laws in. They all blame each other so unless people have the time to look into all places, then they'll never know the truth. All part of their plan to keep the people confused whilst they all increase taxes and costs!

[@bigpete4227]

Welsh73&77 I always thought that it backfired a bit on them. Whenever an mp was asked to change anything, he always answered with “we can’t because of Eu rules”. We got to the point where it was the standard answer wether true or not. That must of influenced people’s thinking during the referendum.

[@MegaTrueTalk]

Hopefully 29th March Cash Machine Closed!!!

[@joseph_wei]

You have a point there, all the EU structures are extra. And EU budget is about 1% of GDP of all EU nations, that is similar to what most EU nations spent on defence. Not to mention all EU countries have to spend extra to comply with all EU laws and rules.

[@stevenobinator2229]

BAHAHAHA, GREAT COMMENT

[@bjarnetungland4544]

His defence is "it was not fraud. It was endemic and systemic incompetent and professional misconduct"

[@Briselance]

"It was endemic and systemic incompetent and professional misconduct" That is still fraud.

[@elizabethanthony3916]

Just like our lot fiddling their expenses, it wasn't a crime, or deceitful, it was a " mistake" ! Most common people who made this mistake would end up in jail!

[@hughjohns9110]

Sounds like he was complicit.

[@Diabolo0011]

It's bad. Sadly, happens in every country, every government and every organisation. Nothing new.

[@matthiase3287]

@gx240 Read how the EU works. Wich of the 7 EU institutions do you have a problem with? Lets list them: The parliament has it, obviously. The Europen council is just the Heads of governments of the EU members. They are obviously democratic, aswell. The other concil consists of ministers from every government of EU members. Ministers are usually viewed as accountable. The Comission is appointed by the heads of governments and approved by the EU parliament. So they are accountable, too. The EU court of justice. Yeah courts are usually not voted on. Is that what you have a problem with? The European Central Bank is somewhat independent, though they are reporting to parliament and parliament is consultet on personal appointments The Europan court of Auitors is again somewhat independent, though they are appointe by the council, which is undoutably accountable so there is at least that. So? Which institution is the problem? Or is it the imaginary one?

[@originalbadboy32]

@gx240.. Well there is.. But as Robert says in the video.. You can't fix the system if you are not in it anymore.. I mean seriously the most unaccountable person on the planet (trump) is still being investigated.. Whilst Aaron Banks and all the evidence handed to the NSA is sitting on a shelf somewhere.. What a sorry state the western world has become..

[@Diabolo0011]

@@plainenglish1774 no one said to forget it. Thank you for your pointless opinion Btw, i bet the UK politicians do it as well, so cut your brexit bs.

[@David_Lloyd-Jones]

Anonymous Diabolo, Would you go for "many places, some of the time" maybe? Your broad-brush universal condemnation may tell us your emotions correctly, but it's certainly a lie about the real world. The problem is, your spreading your sour cynical feelings to the whole world is a downer, a slow poison of the whole atmosphere. Couldn't you maybe take up stamp-collecting or meditation, and give the rest of us a break?

[@MegaTrueTalk]

Hopefully 29th March Cash Machine Closed!!!

[@rollosinternet1853]

It happens everywhere, including the UK. ALL needs to be exposed and dealt with.

[@solanumtinkr8280]

When Cameron went to the EU about corruption and how public money was being spent (the time of the UK MPs Duck House outrage), it was laughed off by EU officials as being perfectly fine to claim money for anything they want. They were said to be frankly baffled of the UK public baying for blood.

[@brianevans2819]

Cameron did his very best to con the treasury out of £50million during the Pandemic for his Australian con man friend Lex Luther or what ever his name is?

[@82pichon]

EU MEPs expenses a complete disgrace made worse by the fact that they recently voted NOT to have to declare where ANY of the average €4500 a month they claim goes.

[@paulsmith-xe4dq]

another reason to come out of the EU then.

[@shadebug]

That sounds more like wages than expenses? Do you want them to reveal what they do with their salary?

[@blameyourself4489]

@@paulsmith-xe4dq But it seems Farage has no problem taking that money ... And now he wants to get reelected as MEP. Did you ever think about that?

[@rogerbennett9641]

@@blameyourself4489 Do you think he's after redundancy money.

[@victoreassis]

@@shadebug If it's not really a salary, then yes.

[@TheFelltimber]

They are politicians....its not uncommon. UK MPs have had their noses in the troughs too. Its wrong and should be punished but this was quite ugly with the threats. Sounds like the EU leadership needs a clean sweep. A spill and fill.

[@TheFelltimber]

@name 123 yep! My point is that for many this news story reaffirms their need to leave because the EU is corrupt and therefore their enemy. Giving context and reminding that its people rather than institutions that are normally corrupt.

[@xyzzdoe3674]

@@TheFelltimber He also left in 2010 and we are 2019, so different leadership now. There are still people putting through bad expenses, but they seem to be getting caught now - to wit Le Pen and her driver.

[@rogerbennett9641]

@@xyzzdoe3674 The EU is unreformable because it's a bureaucrats dream, the very fact that they all pack up and move back and forth every 2 weeks is something Spike Milligan would love.

[@PanglossDr]

You really believe it is more corrupt than the UK?

[@rogerbennett9641]

@@PanglossDr How could it not be? Nobody pays and everybody pays except the tax free salary earners and those living on expenses.

[@joeking1019]

who needs a salary when you can live like a king on expenses?

[@user-wickedflower]

Joe King Robert does apparently

[@Markdmarque]

Happens in UK too

[@thepianoman1010]

@@Markdmarque What does? The fraud or nothing being done about it? Yes, fraud happens in every country but in the UK for example, the fraudsters are put in front of a criminal court and are sometimes jailed. _"Denis MacShane (Labour) was jailed for six months on 23 December 2013 for expenses fraud, after admitting submitting 19 fake receipts amounting to £12,900, making him the fifth MP to get a prison sentence as a result of the scandal."_ There was also a member of the House of Lords jailed for expenses fraud, Lord Taylor. All I see here is the high probability of fraud going on in the EU and with nothing being done about it! Just denial!

[@Markdmarque]

@@thepianoman1010 on occasions they are arrested but most of the time OUR own rulers are not held to account. In EU they are held to account for their actions. Even Farage was caught fiddling expenses. You lot are delusional thinking it is only EU ...Look across the Atlantic at USA where corruption is endemic and corporations buy senators with financial bribes...Get real and take off your rose tinted specs

[@thepianoman1010]

​@@Markdmarque Firstly, let me deal with a couple of things you say which are incorrect. You have said, _"You lot are delusional thinking it is only EU"_ Why would you say that? Why do you feel the need to invent stuff? Nobody has said, anywhere in this thread, that fiddling expenses for personal gain only occurs in the EU, quite the opposite! I spent a while giving an account where 5 MPs and a Lord were jailed in England for fiddling expenses for personal gain ... yet you come out with this! You make no sense at all ... try visiting 'specsavers' and read all of the post you are responding to. Next, you say, _"on occasions they are arrested but most of the time OUR own rulers are not held to account."_ It's no good making a claim without providing evidence for it. Who are these MPs or Lords within our political system, who have escaped prosecution for fiddling expenses? You must know, surely. Then you imply that Nigel Farage "fiddled expenses" for personal gain. I don't believe he is that stupid. The EU docked around £35k from his wages to cover what he had wrongly claimed for a UKIP employee's wages. Apparently somebody who is a party member is not allowed to be classified as an employee. Do you see this as a deliberate attempt to line his pockets? Or, like me do you see these claimed expenses as being put through the UKIP books as a paid wage or salary?

[@teardrop-in-a-fishbowl]

Lobbyism is a much, much bigger problem in Brussels and at home. It costs the taxpayers tens of billions annually. Certainly must be cleaned up, no question! But the title of the video promises more than he gives.Hmm .... what conclusion?

[@rogerbennett9641]

Conclusion? he's a small man in a huge organisation of people largely accountable to one another by the rules they decide together, this is the tip of a very large iceberg. One mans fraud is anothers receipt of EU funds for local projects.

[@andrewnorris5415]

Some organisations are much more corrupt as a whole than others. The way the EU handles expenses is a bad sign, it's bad. If this level of fiddling expenses happened in almost any company - people would be fired. EU supporters say, "ah well it happens everywhere". Not like this is doesn't. This is across the board wide scale expenses fiddling. If anyone at any of the companies I worked for fiddled £500 expenses for a non-existent meeting. And to let them get away with tip-exing train tickets. Come on. Nobody cares, it's not their money, they all help themselves to get away with it, this is clearly a culture of corruption. And note: the EU has also distributed billions of OUR (UK) money - to corrupt governments in former Soviet bloc countries where it has gone to the mafia there. Any journos trying to report on it are assassinated.

[@mo1912]

stealing tax payers money not fraud ?

[@rubix4195]

Well, it's not stealing when it's re-distribution...

[@paulies5407]

What an indictment of the EU and the way it's governed. We're getting out at the right time.

[@CaminoAir]

I'm Irish. The Conservative Party governments for the last 12 years have absolutely thrashed the UK's standards for politicians and parliamentary affairs. Here in Ireland, we used to say that if our political misconduct and fraud happened in the UK, then the politician(s) would have to resign. This has now more or less completely reversed. We are aghast at what we are seeing being swept under the carpet and brazened out in the UK. It is a safe assumption that politicians in any country or region need to be properly monitored and regulated. I remember Tony Blair (on first becoming PM) stating that an end to 'Tory corruption and sleaze' had occurred. I wasn't surprised that it was only a matter of weeks before the first Labour MP was revealed to have been involved in corruption.

[@MrTompahallam]

@@CaminoAir All politicians in every country are fraudulent. Whether its: Tories, Labour, the EU, the USA or whatever. Its been like this since Greco-Roman times... thats why I invest no virtue in arguing whether the EU frauds are more virtuous than our own frauds. The only time politicians have ever acted in public interest is when their hand has been forced and it'll be like this to the end of time. No to say there aren't good honest politicians, but put quite simply the reason most now enter politics is not to do good but to merely enrich oneself.

[@vicjones3992]

Van Buitenen got even worse treatment after exposing the Cresson affair The whole EU edifice is rotten to the core and the sooner it is dismantled the better

[@gulagga371]

That why westminster do not want Brexit. Simply can not lose freebies. Remember, when not re elected they have a job in Brussels.

[@MegaTrueTalk]

Hopefully 29th March Cash Machine Closed!!!

[@gulagga371]

@@MegaTrueTalk Really hope so.

[@ItsDeffoScott]

Westminster don't want Brexit because its a shot to the head. Even the pro Brexit impact studies look negative. So when these MPs pull the trigger they have to deal with deluded fools like you who say they didn't do Brexit right and you have less money overall. As politicians they have to take the blame as they can't blame the idiotic electorate like yourself. It's why Cameron quit. Brexit is a poisoned chalice as we are seeing now.

[@themk4982]

Chris EU officials themselves have said that in the mid-to-long-term Brexit won't have any effect and seeing as they are clearly going to be bias they have an enormous incentive to say otherwise, which coupled with the simple fact that the EU is isolationist and makes up a decreasing share of the world economy would imply that after a few years the UK will be better having left than they would've been otherwise.

[@Sherudons]

Worst thing about such rampant corruption is that it will never get punished, it's so vast by the time anyone gets around to THAT stack of papers the defendants will have died and three generations would have passed.

[@paulinesingleton556]

I shared this and wish I hadn't when he said the UK must stay in the EU, after all the corruption, is he insane

[@clivehorridge]

Pauline Singleton No worries, you got away with it 🤣 🇷🇴🇬🇧

[@vkgiotis]

I'm not British, and the truth must be said; I do admire how common you can find ethical British people. Good on you Robert McCoy.

[@20quid]

This sort of stuff is still going on in the UK House of Lords.

[@elizabethtaylor9321]

20quid The slumber room for the old codgers .

[@fka_the_body1542]

Thank you👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@thepianoman1010]

@@steelydanlover1972 Says who? Of course Brexiters care about the parasitic House of Lords and how useless it is. What has you say, _"Yeah, and Brexiteers don't seem to care if at all about that. Hmm...."_ ? You are clutching at straws for some strange reason .. explain your "logic"!

[@thepianoman1010]

@@steelydanlover1972 Really? ... when was that and who said exactly what about "strengthening" the powers of the HOL? All I can find is this from July 2015 .... "The Green party’s leader, Natalie Bennett, and Ukip’s only MP, Douglas Carswell, have called for their parties to be given more peers in the House of Lords in the dissolution honours list, in recognition of the share of the vote they achieved at the general election. Despite winning 16% of the total vote between them at the general election, the Greens and Ukip - which each have one MP - make up four of the 557 party-affiliated peers in the House of Lords. One is former Green party deputy mayor of London, Jenny Jones, and the other three defected from the Conservative party to Ukip in January 2007. “There’s no doubt that the House of Lords is in desperate need of a radical overhaul, but until the upper chamber is elected it should at least see appointment according to national vote share,” said Bennett, who added that “no matter how deeply we disagree with Ukip’s politics, they should also be far better represented in the House of Lords”. Guardian Today: the headlines, the analysis, the debate - sent direct to you Read more “If the Lords is to retain legitimacy, then it has to have at least a pretence of some sort of proportionality,” said Carswell, the MP for Clacton. “The total number of people who voted Green or Ukip in the general election is greater than the total number of people who voted Liberal Democrat by a long chalk and yet there is a vast number of Lib Dem peers.”

[@thepianoman1010]

​Peter Crean - Peadar Ó Croidheáin Well, you've had a couple of days to think about my question. Any chance of a reply? You claim something yet now you go all sheepish when asked to justify it. It's no good spouting nonsense and then ignoring people who challenge you. That only shows you as a halfw*t. This was my post, (so we get the whole picture.) Says who? Of course Brexiters care about the parasitic House of Lords and how useless it is. What has you say, "Yeah, and Brexiteers don't seem to care if at all about that. Hmm...." ? You are clutching at straws for some strange reason .. explain your "logic"! You also posted, "One of the proposals that was at one time put forward by UKIP was to strengthen the powers of the House of Lords." I asked you to clarify and explain this claim too ... to back it up. Try to justify both claims.

[@whymustisignin4this]

A good and brave man - I hope he is recognised as a whistleblower by the Committee.

[@browncoat1949]

He hates Brexit why? His fat EU pension!

[@flycrashrepairrepeat6225]

The sooner we are out of this swamp the better... Who will be next? that's the question. Bye Bye EU and good riddance. Anti EU - NOT Anti European..

[@kennyfenny4754]

Unbelievable, After all the corruption, fraud, harassment and wasting of UK tax money he witnessed first hand he is still fanatical on the E.U state which is always going to fail.

[@stud105]

The swamp is festering.

[@AmnaKitchen]

That,s a brave step to expose any one fraud.

[@koreyleigh2733]

AS IS EXPOSING CHILDREN WHO ARE RAPPED AND MURDERED BY PAEDOPHILES ALL RELIGIONS/RACE CREED OR COLOUR????. AKA TOMMY ROBINSON???. UKIP THE ONLY WAY.

[@davidlee8838]

I couldn't believe that bias channel 4 would make something like this. True to form in the last 30 seconds he says me must stay in. Still biased

[@BenEichhorn]

Have no fear dear sir. Once the clean Brexit has been completed, the ministry of truth will be set up to prevent such scandalous lies.

[@mo1912]

yes but he has had mental health issues

[@rhyfelaherwfilwrol6732]

I guess you would have preferred it if had lied in those last thirty seconds, and said that the UK should leave the organisation he had worked for and tirelessly sort to reform all these years, that's what a Brexiteer would have done of course.

[@davidlee8838]

@@rhyfelaherwfilwrol6732 my point is channel 4 endlessly put pro remain features on the news with not one point being made for the leave side of the argument. When they do there reporter ridicules them. Notice when he said we should stay no reporter challenged him after he said it

[@rhyfelaherwfilwrol6732]

@@davidlee8838 Well we had 8 minuets of corruption in the EU, that is a leaver side to the argument isn't it? And it was important I think to establish the whistle blower's view on the EU at the end, it discounts the possibility that the corruption allegations were simply made to discredit the EU. Consider it like this, Channel 4 put out "features" as you call them, about the UK leaving the EU. But it turns out there is no good reason for the UK to leave the EU, therefore all the "features" lead viewers to the only sensible conclusion that leaving the EU is bad for Britain. But it seems you feel this is deliberate bias, you think they should make up stuff and lie to present a more 'balanced view' and present a false picture. Why not just do the sensible thing and change your view to fit with the facts, rather than trying to get the facts to fit your beliefs?

[@VivaLaPol]

Hey, just because Brexit is a joke doesn’t mean that this low level corruption isn’t happening and shouldn’t be stamped out.

[@billgiles3261]

Hooray, we are out of it.

[@stevepetty7009]

He exposes EU corruption (expenses fiddles) and struggles as a result. But still thinks Brexit is a bad idea. Just like Michael Gove's experts!

[@sup3rbird]

I'll say one word; pension.

[@stevepetty7009]

@@sup3rbird Yes exactly. The answer to EU ills is put them right. Not leave. That is just self harm of a huge scale compared with fiddled pensions and other financial mismanagement.

[@Briselance]

Doing things together, as European States, having some kind of union is not a bad idea per se. It is its current form that is bad.

[@vernonalexis1077]

@@sup3rbird true but uk fiddle there expense as well then got the so called golden handshake good bye an then reposted they are all the same

[@black__bread]

As every experienced HR professional will tell you, if you want someone senior out a big organisation without a pay off just look into their expenses This does seem hardcore tho, good job he didn't look into payments to Sicilian farmers, Bulgarian local authorities etc., there again, it's an estimated 3bn vs a budget > 160bn p.a.

[@JazzFunkNobby1964]

Only 3 billion? Ah that's ok then!

[@DigiWongaDude]

Retired in 2010 ("with a substantial EU pension"), and is looking for compensation for lost wages. He wants more money from the EU. His last sentence says reveals: "We must stay in, we MUST stay in - you don't throw the baby out with the bath water." But, we voted to leave in a democratic referendum - what's his incentive to remain based upon?

[@dimfre4kske67]

Probably his understanding of what the EU actually does for its citizens which they don't go into in this report.

[@DigiWongaDude]

@@dimfre4kske67 a relatively delicate and informed response. However, respectfully, what the collective does for the greater good is disgustingly poor. We were sold a lie. At some point, regardless, enough is enough.

[@jonnyhonda]

Yea if we leave then he will def loose his compensation claim lol

[@dimfre4kske67]

@@jonnyhonda He won't. The EU will continue to pay him and recuperate the money owed from the UK through international arbitration and eventual punitive tariffs.

[@Serfdomftw]

@@dimfre4kske67 How can they seek to gain money from Punative tariffs if we dont export anything to them? What exactly are they taxing?

[@PeterGriffin-lh6wp]

Another reason for Brexit.

[@Vraca]

Each member of EU Parliament receives apart of the salary additional money for assistants. I know personally one conservative member who hired a chef, a driver and personal bodyguard and appointed them only on paper as assistants- this is something that has been going on for years, but the EU authorities turn blind eye and everything continues. Not to mention the livelong pension of 5000 EUR monthly....all tax payers money.

[@butzee]

Never had their accounts properly audited!! Glad we're leaving!!

[@rebornsmith7542]

The only reason they ran this story is because he's still pro-EU.

[@keithdavies1395]

Corruption? In the EU? Surely not!

[@iandamianluciferwilson7385]

Thank goodness we are out of it.

[@navpreetsingh8156]

Cheating on expenses 20 years ago! Wow weee, while our MPs claimed second homes

[@JazzFunkNobby1964]

He's talking about MEP's expenses fraud. What about the billions of Euros frauds that the woman MEP referred to.????

[@downswingplayer9712]

I stole a pen out of work once but it was only a Bic biro.

[@sup3rbird]

The B̶r̶i̶t̶i̶s̶h̶ ̶S̶S̶ police will be at your door at 4am to "interview" you about your terrible, racist and bigoted hate crime. Pack a bag.

[@downswingplayer9712]

I specifically stole a black pen as not to be labeled racist. Will that hold up in a kangaroo court.

[@twil2212]

They have never managed to balance their books. billions have gone unaccounted for. Money magically disappears

[@TheEx3rgj]

Why do you think Neil Kinnock got his wife and son employed in the European Parliament, in fact they nicknamed Kinnock Goldman Sachs.

[@bendynotydneb]

I found it astounding how far people go to curb any criticism towards the E.U! "But, but, but other countries are just as bad" Where is the accountability?! E.U do as they please and get away with it. 0 transparency for an institution that governs over Europe.

[@hansgruber788]

I love how remainers are defending this in the comments

[@gug1970]

Mark Thomas showed all this in the 90s. The EU is rotten to the core.

[@marcus2432]

Ch4 did that whole piece just for the message at the end...... stay in! What a joke ch4 really is.

[@kevansimister3967]

As I have said before the EU is basically corrupt ( jobs for the lads ) we have seen this with the way they have treated the UK they are scared to death off the competition the UK will bring

[@akbarallardfreichmann2938]

So right fight corruption within the EU. And hands off Venezuela.

[@B50Stevie]

I am just gobsmacked that he maintains that we should stay in the EU, after all he has been through, sheer madness, I can only assume it’s because he receives a very nice pension from them.

[@JackJones-gt9vp]

I'm glad we left.

[@zarathustra498]

Here in Italy they recently convicted a public employee for aggravated fraud because he didn't pass his badge when he went out to bring everyone in the office coffee from the neighboring coffeeshop. Despite being absent for only few minutes and him leaving was approved by his boss he now has penal record banning him from most work, accessing credit, visa for travel etc. In the meantime MPs are absent for weeks and nobody bats an eye, great!

[@elizabethhoare44]

GOD BLESS YOU ROBERT McCOY, I HOPE THE POWERS TO BE DONT TREAT YOU THE SAME AS POOR MELANIE SHAW.

[@novit5798]

The basic annual salary for an MP from 1 April 2018 is £77,379. MPs also receive expenses to cover the costs of running an office, employing staff, having somewhere to live in London or their constituency, and travelling between Parliament and their constituency. The House of Commons provides a cash limited sum per year for the provision of postage paid envelopes and House of Commons stationery to all Members; this sum is in addition to any costs that may be reimbursed under the IPSA expenses scheme. In the Commons, some MPs are paid more because of the special jobs they hold. For example, the Speaker and the Chairs of Committees receive an extra salary. Most MPs who are also ministers in the Government are paid an extra ministerial salary.

[@trevordaviesable]

Does the EU encourage fraud? Does it say maximise your expenses? Are the expenses too generous compared to those taken by UK MPs? Fraud generally is commited by single persons finding loopholes in a system. Not the UK gov or the EU gov unless I can be told of purpousful fraud with proof.

[@chris_thornborrow]

How sad. You lose faith in politicians every day now.

[@ernstvonrichthofen]

It will certainly stop when Europe's populations say stop and dissolves the EU gangster club. Brixit + Denxit asap. as a start !!!

[@kenmackenzie9385]

Is there a government anywhere on the planet that isn't on the make. Nope can't think of one.

[@markhughes7927]

This chap is a head-against-brick-wall banger! He has taken on an immeasurably greater power than himself to confront solo - and after it has steam-rollered him he thinks all should continue as normal.

[@martinheath5947]

A man out of work and out of pocket but still clinging to the EU gravy train (for his generous pension) telling us all we have to stay in. Just like the rest, telling us what to do despite knowing the whole thing has been a racket for decades. Hypocrite. Thanks Ch4.

[@phoenix11994466]

*_Robert McCoy: "You're joking?" ..."No, no, the E.U must survive, if the E.U breaks up, there goes my E.U pension."_* 👀🙏💰😜

[@sniffmatip3865]

Jesus!! Poor guy has "Strasbourg syndrome".....

[@Thorpean]

Robert McCoy deserves a knighthood for exposing the EU ("The Gravy Train").

[@arcadealchemist]

and people wonder why we British hate the EU

[@porter4216]

Channel 4 critical of the EU, must be worried about the TV Tax being scrapped.

[@JazzFunkNobby1964]

All the corrupt MEPs getting away with it.

[@elizdonovan5650]

Whistleblowers always, always, always suffer. No matter who claims expenses, vouchers for amounts claimed should always be solidly backed up by receipts. Is there any other area within EU accounting system where receipts are not produced before paying out EU funds? If not, why not? ☘️🌝🌲

[@waynebrittain372]

Of course he wants to stay in an institution that has shafted him good and proper..the old pension would be right down the drain otherwise.

[@bonononchev634]

Politicians feathering their own bed? I'm shocked, I tell you, SHOCKED! For some reason, however, those same politicians kicked British one's metaphorical butts in the recent negotiations over Brexit. Which are no less corrupt. Maybe stick with the corrupt competent ones, instead of the corrupt incompetent ones?

[@landlord5552]

Russian speks...of fraud

[@bonononchev634]

@@landlord5552, FYI in my country it is a great offence to be called russian, as is literally everywhere in Eastern Europe.

[@TheSpiritOfTheTimes]

@@landlord5552 Typical English arrogance and ignorance. A good example why we are happy you are leaving tbh, to the average English buffoon there are about three countries on the continent and everything east of the Elbe is Russia.

[@teresawatts4181]

@@TheSpiritOfTheTimes what a load of twaddle

[@jay71512]

Kicked our butts pmsl weve 40bn here and the eu will be insolvent without it! Even juncker has admitted germany and france will have to pay it if britain dont or the eu will collapse lol! Italy is failing spain is failing greece has already gone! Theres nothing arrogant about stating the obvious which is the eu is just a mafia like racket of thugs who are lining their own pockets! The sooner the uk gets out the better cause we dont want to be in there when it falls!

[@Relisysification]

The EU doctor needing to be the only medical opinion is awful, as a wrestling fan the Daniel Bryan story of fighting to get the 3 dozen doctors opinions accepted over 1 doctors opinion comes to mind. Such a shame for Robert, and Sir Bore stating that it isn't fraud doesn't change how whistle blowers should be treated with confidence and dignity

[@kennethmaley2443]

Sir bore will not say any thing bad about the EU he has to think about his large EU pension.

[@Relisysification]

@@kennethmaley2443 the thing is he doesn't even need to say anything extricably bad, all he needs to do is say "the cases would have been protected under whistleblower regulations if raised today, it is only fair to back date that right and treat it as investigated and resolved" Then it would be up to a dispute whether the behaviour against a whistleblower was unfair, and give the man some closure and an apology at the least

[@justicewarrior9187]

Hahahahahahahaha 😂 😂 🤣 They earn tens of thousands per month to don't do absolutely anything!!

[@elizabethanthony3916]

And still satisfied, greedy, self entitled bar stewards!

[@grousetheghoul2754]

So after everything they did, he still sides with the EU. Baffling is a good word here.

[@MrMwhiting]

And they wonder why we want out. Sign the UK open petition for a no deal Brexit 354,844 MBGA

[@normankinnaird8314]

also what about the 88.8 billion that went missing and not a cop in sight

[@rufanuf1]

Is this a "token" report from C4? I note the lack of intertest from most of the usual commentors on C4s posts on KZbin. Ahhhh just saw the punchline at 8mins 15 seconds. Ridiculous.

[@rufanuf1]

@Johnny Caruthers Thanks Johnny...sometimes I think its just me. its nice to know others can see thru the nonsense and just how bias some mainstream media outlets have become. Regardless of the economic impact I really do hope the UK shows the EU how democracy is suppose to work. And who knows with pressure now growing across Europe, maybe the EU will scaled down, or better still scrapped altogether and replaced with a simple trading commitee.

[@bingbong7912]

It doesn't matter if it's "just 15 seconds at the end" I can be talking normally to you and then punch you in the face you wouldn't exactly just ignore it

[@rufanuf1]

@Peanuts Your the daft one. This about the only video about the EU I have seen C4 even try and remotely dress up as being anti EU. Only to put the little "twist in" right at the end. so the score remains EU 100 - Independance - 0

[@kossfan]

@@rufanuf1 Also the subtle message they are making is “don’t worry about the negative things you may hear or be told about the EU, it is still on the whole a good thing” and judging by some of the comments here, Channel 4’s ploy seems to be working on some.

[@rufanuf1]

@@kossfan I find it amazing just how vulnerable the "educated" are to being bullshitted too! I'm glad Im not one of those University goers who grew up with all those signs around them saying "funded by the EU" when in fact it was funded with the UKs own money!

[@edmonddillien7126]

there is a French reportage in which they expose the Friday morning routine of the politicians when they come to the bureau where they sign for presence with there suitcase on the hand and then they leave for home knowing they are paid for that day in parlement, and they have never altered there habits for as far as i know.

[@pentuprager6225]

The Brussels Business; watch it.

[@barrymitchell6444]

Totally on his side until the end of the video. If he's exposed all of that, but still thinks the UK should be an EU member paying for it, he's lost my sympathy and can take a running jump.

[@AGP335]

They mentioned at the start of the video various scandals of UK MPs doing the same thing with our taxpayer money, so it isn't a problem unique to the EU. Plus, even if there are corrupt officials, the tens of millions they may steal is nothing in comparison to the hundreds of billions the EU contributed to the UK economy (and tens of billions gained by the budget as a result). Sure, EU members pay a price to be in it, but they're essentially paying a little to make a ton back in return, and no Brexiteer has ever been intelligent or honest enough to admit it.

[@barrymitchell6444]

@@AGP335 I didn't vote on Brexit.

[@stevenpickford8922]

Remember when neil Kinnock was on eu commission and what he did to whistle blowers, he is a lord now of course feeding from the trough he once despised. But that's labour for you,

[@gaelicd8328]

I love the title “alleged” 👻

[@baconcrusader7476]

And they wonder why the UK wants to leave!!

[@emil6966]

Wow this man just discovered new America😂😂😂😂 it's normal in every country

[@purplerabbit7190]

Confirmed we all new politicians are criminals.

[@misterlinux9290]

But what if an European government misspending Is cheaper than 26 misspending countries UHHH?

[@Morbius1963]

So, its not a matter of honesty it's a matter of degree, right?

[@misterlinux9290]

@@Morbius1963 the "fraud" already happened and in theory were resolved, so yeah, fortunately we are talking about misspending and not corruption, the Eu should be the only one allowed to overpay their functionaries , not multinationals or single nations. #thatsthedream

[@nigelmartin2254]

Anyone remembering Martha Andreason? She was the top accountant of the European Union. She tried to ensure German accounting software was used across the whole of the European Union. The European Union had already bought this software to cut fraud. She realised she was being systematically thwarted in introducing this software. Consequently, she decided to record who said what, where and when. The day came when she was relieved of her duties. She wrote up her notes in a short booklet "Brussels Laid Bare". She was then elected as a Member of the European Union Parliament for the British Conservative Party. After five years, she had enough and retired out of the limelight. I hope she is enjoying her anonymous - wherever she is. Thank you Martha Andreason! We remember you and hope you are enjoying the privacy that you have chosen for yourself.

[@TontosVotanPaSocialistas]

Lier! We should leave, we must leave we have to leave!

[@Nickzenchi]

If this man still wants to stay in the EU after all he has been through then i don't feel sorry for him at all.. In fact GOOD... You stay in the EU and let it continue..

[@WCFactBreak]

Hhaahah, this is literally happening in every single international company, this is nothing unusual. I do not say this is moral at all, but those expenses are absolute peanuts compared to other major fraughts that happen in UK for example (just ask the people, who voted for Braxit without even knowing what it is, because some people promised him unicorns :))

[@petergordon4525]

This is what makes it a problem, we have all watched debates held in the EU parliament and various EU discussion groups and remarked on how many empty seats and how few people are there! But now we know that a huge number of EU politicians have signed in for the meetings and have then immediately gone home or back to their hotels after claiming their daily allowance. I watched a programme exposing these people, they were filmed checking in and then leaving soon after, when confronted they all denied it off course. Fraud is one thing, but the fact that these Eurocrats do NOT have to account for for their expenses ( Junker claimed £27000 in two months alone ) is something else, remember this is all public money they are spending, your money, which could be better spent on public services in your country. It is NOT ok to say all big business does it so it's alright, if your happy with that then you obviously earn your money far too easily. This is why this bloated, undemocratic, unaccountable outdated organisation deserves to fail!

[@markussavicus6695]

Not on their priority list. ITS ON THE VOTERS PRIORITY LIST, and they still wonder why the UK voted to leave.

[@tony2707]

I wonder if his hefty EU Pension will be covered for him when we leave the EU.

[@GETJUSTICE4U]

"Out of work out of pocket, but still in love with Europe" Well of course, sane people do not bite the hand that feeds them. Did he not end up with a very generous pension?

[@gatthom1]

In Australia Whistle Blowers get 5 YEARS Jail !!

[@alankenworthy9722]

I recall Neil Kinnock promising he would sort out this corruption, but he did nothing, which makes him part of it as far as I am concerned. Then he came back and eagerly accepted a seat in the Lords, an institution he had spent his whole political life denouncing and demanding its reform or abolition.No doubt he need that money to add to his generous pension (and his wife's).

[@Johnnyfive55]

All ye Brits justifying your Brexit. This is an expenses scandal The house of commons and lords' scandal was 5 year after this?

[@IsThisAvailable550]

I was on his side... All the way up to 8:04 He just blew his own cause clean out of the window. Complete waste of time.

[@trevorjohnson4927]

When is the EU countries going to pay Britain it's share of the EU budget which stands at 80 trillion euros or what ever it is over the next five years or so Greece will take a lot more maybe five times as much than its ever put in and with Italy banks that have been propped up for almost two hundred years. I can see no payment to us in the near future. As this budget dwindles down and more money is used to propped up the eurozone. In which we should get 3 or less trillion euros and we got the parts of Europe we own you know Strasbourg, Brussels everywhere there is a building is part of Britain we paid for it and we shouldn't give it up so lightly. So I don't want to find and that we've left the buildings and they've moved in has squatters. Be more demanding, ask for it back right now.

[@watsonater]

Of course he wants to stay in. He has a EU pension