Mega Man ZX In-Depth Review - Failed Metroidvania or Hidden Gem?

A Mega Man Metroidvania sounds like a match made in heaven. But, some people love it, some people hate it. Is it the next Super Metroid? Is it the next Symphony of the Night? Could it even be the next X7? Let's find out how Inti Creates's debut Metroidvania fares.
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[@DandyDNA]

This game is 15 years old now, insane.

[@GameboyFanatic]

The game is months younger than me heh, and it is one of my favorites

[@VioletaVolnutt]

@DandyDNA do you have a business email? Or any other way to get in contact. If that's okay I would really like to talk to you in private

[@venny1689]

The fact that Model X isn't in Megaman's final smash bothered me since smash 4. He's my favorite design wise

[@DannyWhitemusic]

Venice Miles X is in megamans final smash. I just had to double check but he’s there, it’s SUPER quick though

[@venny1689]

@@DannyWhitemusic X is, but Model X isn't, nor ZX for that matter

[@DannyWhitemusic]

Venice Miles OH. I read that wrong that was my fault , I’ll just hold this L real quick

[@zenkaiangel977]

Model x is x, they're not different characters

[@Zak-bv4qm]

@@zenkaiangel977 They could've done Zx Tho

[@legendaryoutcast4440]

MEGAMAN ZX IS RELEASING ON MODERN CONSOLES ON JAN 21, 2020

[@Daigon95]

till it got delayed a month to Feb 25th *feelsbadman*

[@JsReviews]

Now I wish I played this game more as Aile, I tuned out of Vent’s playthrough really fast. Haven’t seen the full video yet, but nice work!

[@MrSupersonic2012]

Playing through both versions is pretty rewarding for me since you can fully unlock Model X for a full playthrough. So much fun to play the Classic X playstyle.

[@guiteshima]

@@MrSupersonic2012 I mean...You can technically use only the buster with ZX. You don't get the double shot but it's pretty close.

[@MrSupersonic2012]

@@guiteshima You're not wrong that the ZX buster is similar, but that double shot as Model X changes up the playstyle. Completely wrecks bosses so much quicker because of the lack of invincibility after the first shot.

[@cypher838]

The problem with vent's playthrough was that it focused too much on backstory from zero 4 and all the interesting stuff happened in another game. Aile's playthrough fleshes out the current world, even to the point of giving serpent more depth. I assume that vent is a typical x story, where as aile feels more like a zero game.

[@Nickyx68]

J!!! The mega man man

[@VioletaVolnutt]

This is the best ZX video from the entire youtube. You were fair, honest, and did a fantastic job, you said everything needed to be said. Thank you so much for making this video

[@VioletaVolnutt]

@Shin Shaman Nah, it's one of the best 2D action plataforms that exist

[@GameboyFanatic]

@Shin Shaman Says the guy with the pfp of a character who got killed because Mysterio made Wolverine think he was fighting Bullseye

[@OmegaJX]

I got ZX when it released, i absolutely loved it and i still have my 13 year old cartridge.

[@elementmanexe8389]

There are a few things I want to correct you on 1) obtaining the second part of the biometal gives the second level charge shot 2) model PH's overdrive let's his dash pass through bullets and enemies

[@kenjihirata6834]

46:16 my favorite track. it truly gives that "this is the end" vibe and sends chills down your spine.

[@train4292]

Great video. You really should review MegaMan ZX advent soon. Would be really interested in seeing your thoughts on that

[@yutarosora8789]

Um yeah im still here in 2020. Patienly waiting for your next zx advent review. Your video have alot of potential dude. Keep it up!

[@patricklatham3897]

The Ode to Joy bit was a gloriously hilarious touch. 10 outta 10.

[@TechBlade9000]

Who wouldn't enjoy fuckable robots?

[@thestickopia4619]

4:18 Ok I haven’t had a laugh like that in a while

[@TheCrescentKnight]

Here's one easy explanation as to why Giro never told Vent he was a member of the Guardians: Because in Vent's story he wasn't. I consider both Vent and Aile's stories to be in separate timelines where events played out differently. In Aile's story Giro was a member of the Guardians assigned to protect Aile because they knew that survivors of Maverick Raids had the potential to be Mega Men and was partnered with Model Z since before the game began. In Vent's story Giro was only working for the guardians and they where transporting both Model Z and Model X (Model X stored in Vent's motorcycle and Z stored in Giro's), when Vent merged with Model X, Giro merged with Model Z. There was no mention of any link between Maverick Raids and Mega Men. In Aile's story Giro took on more of a Father figure to her, while in Vent's he was more like a Mentor and even rival. It's clear that the intention of the two campaigns was to split information gleamed between the two characters. In Vent's story you learn more about Prairie and the events between Zero and ZX, in Aile's story you learn more about Giro and the nature of BioMetals.

[@DandyDNA]

Well, they're different characters so it makes sense that Giro has a different relationship with each. What always made the most sense to me was that Aile and Vent are twins raised by Giro, and each story is about which one of them is chosen for the Biometal job

[@TheCrescentKnight]

@@DandyDNA Except that in neither Vent or Aile's story is the other mentioned or even appeared. In fact dialogue suggests that with Giro's death that Vent/Aile are all alone with no family or family like figures in their life. If either of them existed in the other's campaign you'd think their first order of business after all this went down is to check on their only sibling. All evidence to me suggests that in each character exists solely in their own timeline.

[@thestickopia4619]

The zero and zx games are not only my favorite mega man games but some of my favorite games in general. And ya, mega man zero and vent/aile should’ve been in mega man’s final smash

[@sephatu]

That collage of sountracks you made serves this phenomenal game justice. As for the rest of the review, it's fantastic.

[@Nathan-rb3qp]

This was actually the first Mega Man game I've ever played.

[@DandyDNA]

I just noticed that there were some rendering issues in this video, leading to some short stretches of black screens. :(

[@burncrowsp]

Wow, this reserves more attention. Great video, pal! Good to see some ZX content!

[@sorawild33]

ZX I think is a very good game. It's just the side content is laughably bad and the map design showed this game was very clearly the teams first attempt at a metriodvania cause its not very well designed. ZX Advent pretty much fixes most of these issues

[@miwestraveler3986]

I think you just didn't understand Vent's story. His relationship with Giro isn't toxic at all, Giro is just more direct with Vent than with Aile. He knows that Vent can take his jabs, and it's a sign they know each other well. Vent calls Giro with an honorific title ("sempai" in the original, which was translated into "boss", which does kinda lose its meaning) which shows respect. The reason why he didn't tell Vent about everything isn't stated (and I think it's really only to spread info between the two routes) but it's probably because he wants Vent to be involved as little as possible, as he's reckless and his motivations come from anger.

[@DandyDNA]

What does he want Aile to be involved for lol

[@miwestraveler3986]

@@DandyDNA It's more like he doesn't mind Aile being involved because he's less worried about what she could do wrong. As I said, he knows Vent is reckless, and he (Vent) was pretty open about his hatred of Slither inc and Serpent before even knowing they're evil. No wonder Giro would think things would go wrong.

[@Lavie_Azure]

"Way better than any of the X games" I like this guy

[@LEXICON-DEVIL]

This must be a typo

[@Lavie_Azure]

@@LEXICON-DEVIL Hopefully it's not

[@ZoniferConundrum]

@@Lavie_Azure I love him too seriously the ZX series is amazing

[@meisterband8603]

@@ZoniferConundrum but better x4 was like realy good

[@amso7169]

@Shin Shaman *High iq comment

[@quantumwaves447]

Nice video bro! Edit: This video is actually the real hidden gem!

[@timtanium7074]

I'd love a ZX Advent review

[@lunarman16]

The intro by itself earned a sub. Keep up the good work

[@jamiefun4me2]

Bruh I didnt know you could do that to those Enemies 21:29 I been playing this game since it came out years ago 😂😂

[@DandyDNA]

This game has such great attention to detail

[@legendaryoutcast4440]

"Human sized mecha" xD

[@Consolous]

ZX is definitely underrated but it was great. A hidden gem for sure

[@barrybend7189]

If one Megaman game that deserves an anime is ZX.

[@SeuZangelo]

I'd like an animated series that goes through the whole timeline.

[@AVPboy6754]

It would nice to have every series of the games running by parts, like in Jojo's: - Megaman = Phantom Blood - Megaman X = Battle Tendency - Megaman Z = Stardust Crusaders - Megaman ZX = Diamond is Unbreakable And so on...

[@Shuttergun1]

It was supposed too but it was canceled

[@KeyleeTamirian]

@@AVPboy6754 Strange comparison... Mashin Hero Wataru would be a better comparison, as it's about a kid who travels a level-based mountain and fights sub-bosses and bosses.

[@VioletaVolnutt]

2 years? Damn And it's still the best MMZX video on the internet

[@ag2731]

Great review!

[@Dillman502]

I just picked this game up after I happened to stumble onto it in a gamestop while looking for used 3ds games! Always wanted to give it a try but MM X2 kicked my ass as a young kid so I wasn't eager to go through that again. Honestly I'm pretty happy it's still underrated, because the physical carts aren't the most pricey or rare, as of this typing, even it's sequel Advent can be ordered through gamestop as of this week! Anyone reading this now who wants a physical copy, there's still hope!

[@DandyDNA]

You found it at GameStop in 2021? 😳

[@Dillman502]

@@DandyDNA That's exactly what I was asking myself until the moment I had the cartridge in my hands 🤣, and here I thought I was super lucky for finding a handful of worthwhile 3ds games in the 3 or 4 stores I visited! From what I've seen their prices are pretty much in line with the overall secondhand market, too (I paid $20 USD for ZX, the cartridge only). Kind of makes me wish they had a bigger focus on retro software (it hurts to call the DS retro but it came out 17 years ago 😭).

[@TheLuconic]

So Aile is best girl. Got it.

[@Lavie_Azure]

By the way Overdrive gives Model P a Shadow Dash

[@gabrielhenriquesilva2014]

This is the best review !!! Really good ! Now i really want play it again 😂 .

[@ragewireloki6213]

I have to make a confession. I played model HX more than model ZX. Mostly because I kept on forgetting to switch to model ZX and when I do I most of the time need to do a platforming segment and wha oh model HX is that platforming model.

[@FantasyJared]

Howdy mate, awesome video! Here are some of my thoughts. Wow, I never realized Vent's story was that weak. I switched to Aile for my first playthrough after not digging his story that much. I agree with your opinion on the implementation of the Biometals, though I think Model HX is fine. The jumping slash and Overdrive swipes do a hell of a lot of damage, though for bosses I typically went with Model X instead. I didn't use Model ZX much because if I wanted to use the Z-Saber, I'd just use Model HX and for using the Buster, I went with X. This is just the way I played though, as I totally didn't catch how great Model ZX was overall thanks to my starting out with keeping Model X (someone completed the game before I bought it with both Vent and Aile). I'll keep this into mind for next time. Random inquiry, but what is your opinion on Model ZX's saber charge shot? I didn't see/hear you comment on it or use it much. Another comment I have, but around 29:50, you mentioned the objective best order for the bosses in MMX1, and I actually disagree. My order is Chill Penguin, Storm Eagle, Flame Mammoth, Spark Mandrill, Armored Armadillo, Launch Octopus, Boomer Kuwanger, and Sting Chameleon. The bosses are easier this way and Fire Wave/Storm Tornado are weapons far too useful to not have throughout 80% of the game, but hey, that's just me. Also, any update on the ZX Advent video? I'd love to see that eventually, if all possible! Overall, this is the best review of ZX that I've seen on the internet. All of your criticisms are fair and make sense, but you also make it clear what the game does right. If you want my stance on ZX, I hardly differ from your views at all, aside from Model H being better than you let on. But I'll digress there. Subscribed for the effort that went into this, and I'm stoked for the ZX Advent review!

[@DandyDNA]

I'm not a fan of Model ZX's charge attack, it is a lot more efficient to just use the rolling slash. My ZX Advent video will come out when I feel like it I guess, lol. Even this video came out nearly a year after I recorded the footage. If I'm not lazy then hopefully June or July. Thanks for the comment btw, very insightful :D Glad you enjoyed the video!

[@steb2261]

This video needs more views I loved megaman zx advent its my childhood game and i'm excited to play megaman zx with the z/zx legacy collection

[@ascended00hybrid58]

I'm not sure how you didn't get much use out of Model Fx with changing directions of projectiles. For my playthrough, I had one hand set to be straight while the other go at a more diagonal direction (straight, up, straight) in order to get enemies that were in awkward positions that Model Zx couldn't reach easily. It was also useful for some bosses to hit a bit higher than usual if I wanted that Level 4 Victory.

[@DandyDNA]

Instead of pausing the game to adjust Ur bullet pattern you could just move your character to another region of space

[@kevinfreire1]

great video

[@KeyleeTamirian]

*sigh* if you can't find area K, then just do another mission that happens in the area you know about. Just freely roam the world and if you see a new area, check if there's any missions for that. Thus i completely destroyed the criticism most people do for this game. It's one of the best Metroidvanias and i played it a long time ago and don't remember much, i remember being annoyed at the map... but now i play it again and i really enjoy it with my mature and experienced map.

[@DandyDNA]

It's a gamble whenever you accept a mission and start exploring the map

[@KeyleeTamirian]

@@DandyDNA I do apologize for sounding angry. I actually enjoy exploring, and playing Metroidvania without relying on a map is an unique experience.

[@darkshifter3656]

I wonder your thoughts on Advent

[@Alianger]

Good stuff! Go to 16:10 if you want to skip the story part

[@ariano1561]

yeo you hit it right not the head I am a zx fan hoping to see a positive take I almost teared up hearing green grass gradation

[@mendlez2306]

Alright, im playing Aile's campaing and then coming back to finish this video.

[@rogercruz1547]

The end of the video reminded me of a metallica song... fade to black

[@cronical246]

I consider Aile as Canon Especially when Advent comes around. It just makes more sense/ more interesting with Aile and Grey being the protags.

[@SolofChaos]

ZX Is a great game until you try to do any of the side content. Like they did a great job at the story, the animations and for the most part the the gameplay, but all extra content was either absolute trash or was designed so frustratingly impossible no one wants to do it nor should they out of spite against the devs. (E.g: the 2 sub tanks in the later part of the game, and side quests)

[@uandresbrito5685]

I had no problem with the regular sidequests. Some were repetitive, but that was usually compensated by the story we were working for. Totally agree with the last 2 Sub Tanks

[@cypher838]

You only ever need 2 sub tanks. Area k subtank and the side quest subtank are horrible.

[@8bitdragonfist350]

The z and ZX collection bois btw ZX is a grate game

[@dominosnostradamus2415]

Best two games in series

[@devonstephenson930]

Love this game to death. Love playing as Vent.

[@heroicgangster9981]

Model Z: Giro's soul is now within you Aile: I'll make Serpent pay for this! Vent: LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@p00pdragon]

I feel like no one does the combo for Hx. It’s a little weird compared to how zx can combo with one button but it is pretty cool still and does give him move variety.

[@Nathan-rb3qp]

The subtank in Area K is pure torture.

[@Akabalthy]

29:54 I do Chill Penguin, Storm Eagle, Flame Mammoth, Chill Penguin Revisit, Boomer Kuwanger, Spark Mandrill, Armored Armadillo, Launch Octopus, Sting Chameleon.

[@SPOODURMAN]

Megaman 4 had the best robot master designs of any classic gane

[@CRAgamer]

Honestly the shitty map could have been fixed slightly if they just did what metroid zero mission did with the chozos. Everytime you select a level. A beacon should have shown up where you need to go on the map, and it's left up to you to figure out how to get there. It could have salvaged that map a little.

[@cheezeebutter452]

29:40 well actually you can take a route that is harder but is faster at collecting everything with very few backtracking to stages. Just for those who want a challenge and to be rewarded for said challenge.

[@marquinhoescobar]

I think the best example would be. It would be more of a double soul than a pound of drink. A pound of drink, a pound of drink. A pound of powers will know this meant to anyone in the past my past. That's what I asked for well. Double soul so directly act with director uses the power of another one over there guy.

[@raphaelol]

This game/s are underrated your channel is too

[@DannyWhitemusic]

God I can’t FUCKING wait to finally play this on the switch. I don’t play emulators so I’m soooooo excited to have a chance to play these

[@barrybend7189]

I dropped my play through to 10 hours.

[@KeyleeTamirian]

You people do realize that one of this game NPCs says "It's better to accept missions near the area". So you should not accept a mission before finding a location! Just travel around the world, you see a new area, check if there's any mission for this area, accept it and go. So the reason Metroidvania aspect failed not because of "where the fuck do i go" but because people did it in a wrong way.

[@DandyDNA]

Wouldn't it be better to be able to go to an area and immediately get started with a mission instead of backtracking to a transserver

[@KeyleeTamirian]

@@DandyDNA I dunno. I enjoy exploring nowadays. And i play one mission per session, so it doesn't feel boring. I guess i just prefer to play slow pace if fast pace is annoying.

[@ecks4657]

Good video. I think the team at Inti wanted to make something different and chose a girl as the protagonist, but not wanting to alienate the audience, decided to have both. It's clear that way more care went into Aile/Grey over Vent/Ashe. If this wasn't clear enough in ZX, ZXA confirms it, as Grey's story makes much more sense than Ashe. Edited on case you haven't played ZXA yet.

[@alluringming]

i really enjoyed z and zx series, i only wish it was made for the consoles rather than the handhelds. Still waiting on zx sequal, i though z and zx series and thought was interesting.

[@patricklatham3897]

Or Sailor Moon. Or Digimon frontier. Or that Aussie Duelist's deck in the Season 4(aka terrible filler) Orichalcos arc of Yu-Gi-Oh.

[@lunariansoup9635]

for a game that technically lets you play as fucking OMEGA, im surprised its so underrated

[@guiteshima]

I think it would be more fair if you used the versions of the songs that play in the DS, not the remastered tracks. Of course the remastered versions sound amazing and i'm not saying that the ones in the DS suck, but we need to compare the game's soundtrack to other titles on the DS. And i know you've addressed that in the video, but man you should have shown HOW much these songs survived the compression rate by showing both the remastered and compressed versions.

[@hotrod0331]

I’m starting to get some blade runner vibes from mega man zx

[@TheAnimatedGamer]

People mocked the legends games? Thought people loved them

[@Rihcterwilker]

They're awesome games, and those who play it usually get to love them. But i guess outsiders think of them as "the unfinished pre-3d pseudo-rpg games", which is a shame.

[@Kilwede1]

....... lol. yo bro, try this, do the ice dude, aim the buster straight up. go into overdrive, and watch how horribly destroyed the bosses end up. Easiest level 4 victories thanks to that buster customization. for model P, if you tap on the exclamation mark you will shoot shurikens directly at them, guaranteed hits, and at least in zx advent it works on cloaked enemies as well. in this one best used for enemies hidden in the dark.

[@DandyDNA]

When is any of this more efficient than model zx's rolling slash tho

[@Kilwede1]

@@DandyDNA when on those bosses specifically you want a 5 sec lvl 4 victory? Rolling slash is great n all but it doesn't even compare in these circumstances, and model p's enemy shot is a guaranteed hit, no risk in darkness. It is a utility skill for a reason

[@bigdaddynasty69]

4:22 im fucking dying hahaha

[@internetmeta]

Great video, I loved mega men legends. Halo 5 is still shit.

[@guiteshima]

I know the level design is good and all...But can we all agree that area K-5 has the most a-hole design for that vertical part?

[@DandyDNA]

still a better subtank than the nurse sidequest

[@guiteshima]

True, the enemy placement still triggers me though. *Those harpoons are devious*

[@guiteshima]

Oh and also the Disk that you can find. I didn't even know there was a subtank there prior to watching some videos...I think my completionist senses are going to tell me to go through that area (I went through the rising lava but didn't know the thing that takes you across the opening can't take you back so i just went through the lower path)

[@rogercruz1547]

5:40 interspecies reviewers

[@isauldron4337]

Advent when?

[@afelias]

It looks like you used the All-Biometal cheat for this footage (ngl being able to use Ox in the main story is fun and all, plus not doing the Vent+Aile to get perma Model X) and that's how you messed up on not knowing/remembering the 2nd-fragment Biometals granting you the second special move. And that's not a small thing. Hx' hurricane attack is one of the most broken things in the whole game.

[@KeyleeTamirian]

I personally enjoy map in this game. It encourages (...Okay, forces) player to personally remember the location outline instead of relying on the map every second. This map is more like a diagram, and i enjoy it, because it gives me enough information to make me know where i am exactly. Basically, you criticize the map just because you look at it the wrong way. You people are too much used to Metroid-style map which turns Metroidvania into a cakewalk where you look at the map every minute. I am glad that this game made an original map style which is more unique than typical Metroid-style map. Plus it's three-dimensional, which makes it less flat than most 2D Metroidvanias.

[@Rihcterwilker]

If the map doesn't show you where the entrances and exits are located, it does not serves it purpose as it should. I can defend this game in every other aspect, but the map is just downright bad.

[@KeyleeTamirian]

@@Rihcterwilker Oh my god, locations are easy to navigate enough that players can locate entrances on their own. They can't afford some simple memorizing? To me this map is useful enough. As it's just a map that shows area connections. Map should show entrances and exists? Oh nice, what else? All the secrets must be shown on the map then? To complitely eradicate player's ability to play on their own instead of depending on map. I say that in-game maps in Metroidvanias are basically semi-casual features.

[@Rihcterwilker]

@@KeyleeTamirian what secrets are there for you to find? It still is a megaman game, you get abilities from bosses, not from itens on the map. And it is a confusing mess. Area H is connected to area A, area F can only be accessed from area B. I just loaded my save to look at it, and there's no sense or order in anything. It's just a chore to find a place you haven't been yet because it is just trial and error, there's no way to find an area by following some kind of direction. I remember looking for area H the first time, thinking it would be close to area G, but no, i need to get all the way back to area A, the very first area, and go through a door with nothing indicating that it would lead to area H. Again, pure trial and error.

[@KeyleeTamirian]

@@Rihcterwilker They are called Areas A, B, C, and so on because of the order you take them on. First area is Area A. Next two areas you have missions in are Areas B and C. And then you get a mission in Area D. Next four missions are in Area E, F, G, and H. It's a wrong assumption that Area H should be close to Area G. Once i got the Yellow Card Key, i checked all first areas to find entrances to new Areas. That's when i found Area H near area A. Alphabetic letters are just names of Areas. You are not supposed to think that they must be in Alphabetic order. I do not use online or printed complete maps, i find areas on my own pretty much easily. If you can't find an area, then just don't look for it! Just explore every corner to see if you can find anything new with a new biometal or keycard. It is fun for me to walk through the areas and see something new. Maybe it's because i play Mega Man ZX by One Boss Mission Per Play Session, maybe that's why it doesn't make me angry. Just because the map doesn't uses casual Super Metroid map style, or that the map requires THINKING doesn't mean that it's bad. I mean, why the heck did you assume that Area H is close to area G, if entrance to Area E is near Area C? Your problem is that you play it like a normal Mega Man game. "I will just breeze through the game, as the only reason to play Mega Man games is to defeat bosses and finish the game" It's not the game where you must focus on finishing, you must PLAY IT, not beating it! There's a difference between PLAYING the game and TRYING TO BEAT the game. When you try to beat it, you focus on finishing the game too much, so every obstacle makes you annoyed. Instead, you should focus on playing it, and getting gameovers and hard obstacles would not make you angry this way, as it will just the part of the game. "Oh, i lost, i guess i can do better next time". I see how you western people play videogames... every time a mob hits your character or you die, you always swear like "You bastard!", getting angry at the mob that got you a gameover... it is clear you don't play games for enjoyment, but rather for the idea of "Challenge" and if you can't complete the "Challenge" you get angry. Instead, you should think "Oh well, i failed the challenge, better luck to me next time". Always be positive about videogames. If you get angry at videogames, then why do you even play them?! Either don't play them, or just change your approach. Treat every gameover like a lesson, take tips from what you could do wrong. When i die at something in a videogame, i think and analyze on what i did wrong, instead of acting like an ape and screaming "You bastard, you killed me!" without even thinking why did it happen. If course he did kill you, because it's an enemy! Instead you should just change your approach and adapt! Most of you gamers are just angry apes who get angry at videogames. Unlike you, i can play hardcore games and not get angry at losing. Instead, i treat every fail as a lesson. But from what i see in western media, you westeners treat "learning" as something bad and you main characters always treat learning as something boring and you praise lazyness. No wonder that i treat myself as some kind of greater being! Or else how can i explain the gap between our intellect?! I really wish for all people to be equally as smart to me, but everywhere i go i see idiots! It's the idiots fault for making me so self-praising!!!

[@Rihcterwilker]

@@KeyleeTamirian that's some rick and morty talk right there. "You need to have high iq to be able to play megaman zx" lol. Such an intellectual, but prefer to be blind to how badly designed a map for a game is. ZX advent just fixes everything wrong about the ZX map, and it is not your regular metroidvania one. It's basically the developers saying "we learned that the map didn't work, so here, have a new one".

[@LEXICON-DEVIL]

Man I thought I would be able to switch back n forth on the fly between X and Zero. How disappointing. Especially when you are able to do that with the other characters.

[@thundagathejolteon4076]

Beat Vent and Aile's campaigns on normal/hard difficulty then start a new game with either on normal. You'll have Model X even after you get ZX. At this point, beat Omega and get Model O. Now you have X and Zero.

[@The_Vible]

If only they fixed the open world map. Seriously.

[@No-sr5fb]

You had me at fuckable robots

[@haidar1128]

15:45

[@dominosnostradamus2415]

Gem

[@juronpilo6109]

why are you using charge attacks on the bosses with the other biometals when you should be using overdrive? if the enemy is weak to the element the biometals use!

[@DandyDNA]

Overdrive is too OP, doesn't make the game fun

[@ffiiggyy]

@@DandyDNA I never used Overdrive since I was using a touch screen playing ZX.

[@kirbaran2039]

Megaman zx just goes zee axy (whatever does that mean) being a metroidvania instead of a genuine platformer

[@aliesterus1.023]

Kamen Rider. You're thinking about Kamen Rider.

[@aliesterus1.023]

45:07 And then Capcom retconned the split timeline in the Megaman series into one singular timeline. Including Legends. Fantastic, amirite? Our one win in Z4 turned out to have not mattered!

[@yourfavouritefood1210]

"Dark souls" of capcom

[@Jackattack359]

Ghosts N Goblins?

[@professortrickroom3777]

9:32 So that's why Aile made the cut to X DiVE instead of Vent...

[@PeteZahjutt]

ZX being Leagues above any of the x games? HahahahahhahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH *gets out and slams door as hard as humanly possible”

[@DandyDNA]

"Sigma is back for the Xth time heehee"

[@novaimperator1526]

SECOND! wait.... First?

[@DandyDNA]

Vote in the Strawpoll and you get to be honourary first :)

[@thundagathejolteon4076]

Local man mad about a Metroidvania playing like a Metroidvania

[@DandyDNA]

Bro I literally said it failed to be a Metroidvania

[@thundagathejolteon4076]

@@DandyDNA It plays exactly like any other Metroidvania. The genre as a whole suffers from most of the problems you stated.

[@DandyDNA]

@@thundagathejolteon4076 with all due respect, if you think Super Metroid's genius design is as unintuitive as Mega Man ZX's, then you as the player are the bottleneck, not the genre.

[@thundagathejolteon4076]

@@DandyDNA Genius design? Like taking off the leash and leaving you with next to no guidance? ZX isn't perfect, but it definitely tells you where to go and what to do very clearly. The map is trash, but the game certainly has other ways, such as NPC's, to tell you where to go to get to certain areas. Super Metroid's map is certainly far superior in that aspect. So long as you have the weapons or means to backtrack, getting from place to place is remarkably easy. However, none of the early Metroid games, aside from Metroid 2, give you a clear enough goal to keep playing. You get bored and turn the game off. Megaman ZX is the best of both worlds, and that comes with the flaws of being both a Megaman game and a Metroidvania. You get cool powers and forms like in Megaman, but all of them are situational like in a Metroidvania. Items in Megaman were always a bitch to get, same for most Metroidvanias. The point is, this is a Metroidvania, and your complaining about A, trivial things, and B, things that are typical in Metroidvanias.

[@DandyDNA]

@@thundagathejolteon4076 wdym next to no guidance in Super Metroid? If you don't know how to wall jump or infinitely bomb jump then the game is literally linear. In Super Metroid you also don't have to march through Area A 10 times to beat the game

[@androgamerzx389]

You forget MMBN 4.. THAT'S NOT UNDERATED

[@recentlydeleted]

It seems to me like you just have a bad interpretation of the dialogue. You took it as a way that most other people didn't

[@DandyDNA]

How did most people take it?

[@meramek5623]

If he took it differently than most people, how does that make his bad?

[@anandapeaceoutside8576]

Why did capcom use the GBA???? PS1 WAS PERFECT That was the mistake

[@DandyDNA]

Huh

[@anandapeaceoutside8576]

@@DandyDNA About graphics... X4,X5,X6 >>> megaman zero or ZX

[@DandyDNA]

You asking why Capcom released MMZ for the GBA instead of PS1?

[@Matthew_Murray]

It's almost a rule that in any game if there is an option the female character always ends up being the best choice

[@DandyDNA]

Not so much for the sequel imo

[@isauldron4337]

Aile gets knocked back farther than vent in combat though Vent rules

[@raywiidsi0633]

Aile story is mediocre

[@orangelimesky]

The whole vent vs aile dialogue thing explains the dumpster fire taking place in Capcom at the time. They probably hired extreme feminist misandrists that hated men and it shows in the game. No wonder it wasn't as popular as the rest of the series. They couldn't even decide on a protagonist let alone carry a massive franchise that is MegaMan. And most likely they're gone now and Capcom is starting to come to their Senses that gender discrimination, is just not good for business. Also personally why I hated this game was cos it was released and the name zx is so misleading. I thought it continued from MegaMan zero but was severely disappointed that neither x nor zero make a proper appearance in this. And it's story had nothing to do with classic MegaMan or the rivalry between wily and light or about reploids. It was a generic chosen one anime teenager story. Blergh.

[@DandyDNA]

what

[@orangelimesky]

@@DandyDNA Flew right over your head huh...

[@DandyDNA]

@@orangelimesky I think it's more likely that Aile was designed first - and then later a male character was added - than Vent's script being bad on purpose to spite men. Never mind that Giro is a man and isn't written poorly in Aile's campaign

[@orangelimesky]

@@DandyDNA Oh c'mon man. You're really reaching there. Okay - say what you say is right - why even bother 'adding' a male character? Also about Giro. Yeah. He's definitely a man. A sweet gentleman to the female character. But a douchebag to the male character. What we call a simp. Zx was a trashy storyline that had nothing to do with the megaman games of past. It was just a generic mary sue game, but had to pander to the rest of the gamers in the name of diversity but wanted to encourage players to play as Aile - hence intentionally making Vent's plot very vague, generic and just bad dialogues. Nevermind the fact that the zx games were literally the final entry for many MANY years.

[@DandyDNA]

@@orangelimesky Vent was meant to be a disobedient prick, so of course Giro will scold him. If you think ZX has nothing to do with the rest of the series you're insane! Anyway you're probably 14 and just got done watching a Ben Shapiro compilation, and maybe he epically OWNS liberals with FACTS and LOGIC but Mega Man ZX is not one of the libs

[@Sukaiba69]

Besides the amount of times I sidetracked and found an area I could do nothing because 'haha no boss door/transerver 4 u' making me not care about the exploration I'm honestly shocked how, having a pseudo-interconnected world, this game SOMEHOW manages to have less collectibles (No, nobody cares about the disks) than X's linear, confined stages Like, imagine if you could get ammo tanks (Considering Overdrive it would have been PERFECT) Actually find usable items instead of making them all only obtainable through quests Maybe even find Mods for the Biometals to change some aspects of their gameplay (Like say, Hx gets a second air boost, Lx getting a slide, Px getting a wall cling/wall run, etc)