NYCTA/MTA Bus: 2008-10 Daimler AG Orion 07.501 Next Generation HEV Review

Kal-El finally returns to review New York City Transit's 3rd fleet fleet of Orion VII hybrid which happens to be the sole fleet of Next Generation hybrids as well as the 2nd fleet of new buses for MTA Bus Company.
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[@thatcanadianbusfoamer8989]

6:32 man, that take-off sounds so nice!

[@Kipling45]

I also really love the Orion NG's and OG's. I love the sound it makes and how its shaped.

[@AutomotiveTaurus]

Thank you so much for featuring me, finally ! And no hatred for these NGs ??? What a trick ! And since these are my favorite Orion VIIs since I was a kid, these can make a legend to being one of nice designed MTA buses. And these are now seen to be the most diversed, since it was ordered in over 800 in quantity. I didn't even expect them to replace that much of the RTS' back in the day, and over 800 of them they ordered are a waste of money and resulted them into budget cuts. At least, these buses have more comfort to being in the MTA. And not a single model of these can ever catch on fire. Anyways, happy holidays and happy new year 2022.

[@BrIaNMeRcY1022]

The Next Gen Orion VII order called for 850 buses. They retired the 1990-1991, 1993-1994 TMC RTS's as well as the 1993-1995 Orion V's. When the order was finished, Castleton Depot ended up with the most at 111 buses (3965-4019, 4245-4278 [Spectrums], and 4431-4452. The depot with the fewest was Yukon at 48 (4092-4139).

[@dodge1515]

@@BrIaNMeRcY1022 You remember when they gave us a second #3960? The first one was an engineering bus IIRC.

[@BrIaNMeRcY1022]

@@dodge1515 I remember but thanks for reminding me about it. Considering 3960 is the lowest numbered Lithium-Ion Next Gen.

[@dodge1515]

@@BrIaNMeRcY1022 Slightly off topic, but do you know how many of the 1990-91 TMC RTS 06's #8000-8396 were repowered? I could never find an exact amount. I just always assumed around 350 of them were.

[@BrIaNMeRcY1022]

@@dodge1515 I'll do some digging when I have the time.

[@V1N_X3NT]

Yessir, Kal-El! Amazing review of the Orion VII Next Gens!

[@xn60fantho]

Great review! This makes me learn more details about the Orion VII NGs out of New York City Transit. Keep it up!

[@mtanyctfan8100]

HELL YEAH MY NUMBER 1 FAVORITE BUSES🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@stillnitro]

Yessir love your reviews man keep up the good content 👑👑

[@joshmasterproductions9066]

Good Review! I first rode these buses on the Q50,Q49,Q72 and saw them on the Q58

[@sethmtanyct]

Hey, great job on the review, man! I didn't really like these buses either at first, but they grew on me overtime as well. Of course I will still always prefer the old gens, but it's always good to have alternatives I guess. The only reason I still kind of like these buses is due to the bassy HVAC and moaning sound when the bus stops, stays still, and that very loud ENGINE FAN when the bus accelerates really fast. That loud ENGINE/Transmission fan is one of the few reasons I still somewhat enjoy these buses.

[@MagicMike-rd8mz]

What's up Bro. Now thats' a excellent Bus review on the Orion VII Next Gen . 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥At first I really like them But I did'nt have no choice but to ride on them .The Orion VII Next-Gen are reliable Bus during bad weather when most Buses can't go on the road Like the Artic's Buses. At the of day love them or hate them as long they get me from point A to point B. I'll ride them.

[@dev_nyc23]

Great Review Kal-El, I Like The Next Gens Before But I Only Like The 2008 And 2010 Models Because Of The 2009 Models Being To Common. I Also Saw Some People Watching This During The R32 Retirement Trip.

[@Sevvy_staxkz]

This review was definitely one that we needed. You always hated the NGs but I never knew why. Amazing review 10/10

[@kalelc1996]

They slowly grew on me. When I was younger I hated them but within the past years I started having a little respect for them even though I prefer the Old Gens

[@Sevvy_staxkz]

@@kalelc1996 I was the exact same way as a child. I hated the NGs b/c of you and Knuckles. They slowly grew on me starting from 2020. P.S: The 2008 units in MJQ also had the SBS Scheme and were the first units to get them, including 3800. They were used on the M34/A-SBS until the LFSAs took over. Then, were unwrapped eventually.

[@kalelc1996]

@@Sevvy_staxkz they grew on me within the past 3 years

[@sethmtanyct]

@@kalelc1996 They also grew on me a bit overtime since I'm forced to take them almost every other day since I don't live too far from some of the Flatbush routes. lol

[@AutomotiveTaurus]

This was me, when I hated RTS' since I was 10, until I was 15

[@idontfeelsafe9998]

when i first got on the next gens they were the bomb i still like these buses and in my hearts i will still have them.

[@RDotRailfanner2007]

Nice Job Man on The Review!

[@nyctmtakid8358]

Awesome video man! This is one of my childhood buses. I can’t imagine New York City without the Next Gens.

[@kalelc1996]

Hey man thank you very much I appreciate it and honestly I mean when it comes to the NGs... for me it's a hit and miss and honestly I feel the same way about the old gens. Now the absence of the RTSs really changed NYC. Been in my opinion since they've been gone it kind of feels like something is missing. I mean I was born in 1996 so....

[@equanjonesthetransitfanner]

Nice review

[@R.A.-X65]

Solid 😎

[@Moyaiville_Productions]

Thank you so much for this well needed review. I have equally liked the Next Gens and Old Gens for years but don't hate me for this but I prefer Next Gens over Old Gens, just being honest.

[@jimmymakmta]

That's your preference, nice post, I love transit buses my favorite bus was the LF Flyer and the new Excelcier coach, thanks again

[@mtafannerbus2719]

Yo my video of the nova LFS hybrid is in the video : D

[@Sylveonkpopnyct]

Q16 DEBUTED LETS GO

[@Ihonestlydek]

Yeah these sound cool and look cool, but the og hybrids easily beat these for many reasons: 1. They sound way better 2. More classier 3. You can hear the ogs have more diesel-ish sound, the 1st gen having the best diesel electric sound

[@savionmjallyeiither42luvr]

This was great

[@RA197972]

My first time on the next gen was on the B47. At first, I thought the back was funky, but they grew on me. I also seen them in Toronto's TTC in 2009. It's a shame that they are retiring soon. I will miss the design and the smooth take off, of course depending on the driver.

[@jaydottt_transitfanner]

15:39 THATS MY VID THX

[@jimmymakmta]

Yes those were some fast and smooth buses I drove out of MTV, I miss them

[@KSAPCreator]

The "UGH, LaGuardia Depot" never gets old

[@DARKNIGHT-525]

I’m getting an mta bus toy for Christmas

[@kalelc1996]

Cool!

[@Guest_4640]

Cool, i usally see 4491-9 and in the 4500's

[@Transit_and_Gaming]

I had this memory one time I was going to coney island but instead I had to use a shuttle bus to go there and I saw a 2009 next Gen hybrids and I think it was the train route N shuttle to coney island

[@NeilQVLGA6455]

Yessir Kal-El! As much as I don’t like the NGs, I still tuned in! As we all know the NGs are slowing starting to leave the MTA, by the time I am writing this comment(12/26) the NGs that have retired are 3871, 3899, 3909, 3968, 3971, 3973-3974, 3989, 4109, 4135, 4138, 4331, 4369, 4372, 4424, 4436, 4515, 4538, 4542, 4556, 4560-4561, 4564 and 4568. I actually kind of will be missing these by a little bit ima be honest with you once they are gone. Over here in NICE, all of our 1700s which is the 2008-2009 Orion VII NG CNGs are all officially retired, not only were these the 2nd last ex-Long Island buses to survive under NICE but they were also the last buses in Nassau County to feature the push tape stop requests! This is something very unexpected that happened in like October of this year, 3 ex-Yukon SBS NGs from Manhattanville were unexpectedly transferred to Queens, 4263 and 4265 were transferred to Queens Village depot and 4248 was transferred to believe it or not... JFK depot! I actually rode 4265 twice under Queens Village on the Q46.

[@kalelc1996]

Thnx

[@NeilQVLGA6455]

@@kalelc1996 your welcome!

[@NeilQVLGA6455]

@@kalelc1996 you could have used my clip of 4265, but it is what it is!

[@dodge1515]

I seriously thought that #1700-1839 were going to get a shout out as those were a side order of these buses.

[@kalelc1996]

@@dodge1515 I thought they were separate all this time

[@savionmjallyeiither42luvr]

Yessir

[@ThaMastTransit_MSDWolf8420]

One of 2009 Next Generation #3792 was hit as Ridgewood Term bound Q58 bus on June 2017.

[@dodge1515]

There is no such bus as #3792. Last incarnation was a 1984 GMC RTS 04.

[@Sylveonkpopnyct]

@@dodge1515 she meant 3992

[@dodge1515]

@@Sylveonkpopnyct You mean #3972?

[@yoelkranczer580]

Now they sound like the old gens oh boy

[@JaeDevs]

I kinda like the buses but i remember u calling them

[@r160fan7]

Are you gonna review the Orion VII NG CNG's formerly from MTA Long Island Bus, then moved to NICE?

[@kalelc1996]

Not too familiar with Long Island Bus or NICE Bus

[@aymanuadamu4766]

Sounds like the bee-line xde60

[@maxwish9471]

The noise is a problem. In 2021, I said “When will these go away?”.

[@dodge1515]

You forgot to mention what buses these replaced.

[@transitgamerjayjay3704]

Yessir!!🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@Guest_4640]

On the Q 69, 100 ect

[@mxr572]

engineered and made in Canada.

[@Ihonestlydek]

Werent these also sent to eastchester depot?

[@kalelc1996]

Some were later on

[@andydiaz697]

Kal-El, what bus are you going to be reviewing next ?

[@kalelc1996]

I'm planning on doing a mini-review on the 3Gs

[@andydiaz697]

@@kalelc1996 Oh, because I am desperately waiting for the MCI 102-DLW3SS Review !!

[@crownking3752]

@@kalelc1996 o us a favor i know your busy but please do more reviews and have us not wait months or years fro one to come out still waiting on the new flyer d45HF viking review. cant wait for your next reviews hopefully soon.

[@NeilQVLGA6455]

@@crownking3752 I’m excited for those reviews too, he will be doing the MCI-102 DLW3SS review first I believe

[@crownking3752]

@@NeilQVLGA6455 ok can't wait in one of his videos when he tells us his upcoming reviews a while back he had the new flyer vikings in there still waiting on that

[@zMurderification]

Only good thing about driving these is that they pick up. The mirrors suck and the kneeler is in the worst possible area. Can’t forget banging your left knee, they need to retire these.

[@nah_144]

These buses were the face of the MTA. Now they starting to not be mundane. These will be gone soon.

[@Wbishop1995]

Are they going to retire

[@kalelc1996]

They're in the midst of it

[@CanalJasonJo27823]

3:03

[@DannyLok2812]

Hey Kal-El how come you call the next Gens shitcans?

[@kalelc1996]

It was a joke from when I was younger

[@DannyLok2812]

@@kalelc1996 oh I though it was a hate towards them

[@kalelc1996]

@@DannyLok2812 nah I kinda disliked them in the beginning when they were new but they gradually grew on me

[@DannyLok2812]

@@kalelc1996 yeah but I had the same reaction as you when I first saw them

[@DannyLok2812]

I mean they had the white back but oh well there nothing we can do, but the only this we can do is enjoy them