Inside the college admissions process Parenting TODAYshow com

[@JulietteVeronica1201]

“Why should we treat a musician differently then how we treat an athlete?” THANK YOU!!!!!

[@priyeeshofonie9615]

Yesss

[@jollyholly2851]

Than

[@keepingcool7510]

For top schools and ivies musicians are more important than athletes. For an athlete you have to be the very best, while a musician just have a rare instrument or a common instrument and win a few awards and that’s better. I’ve seen a Cello player get into Columbia (she didn’t even play competitions that much) and Bassoon player get into Harvard (he did a few competition).

[@emperorqianlong6579]

Than* comparative

[@jakemartinez8889]

Athletes bring $$$ to schools. It’s like if a parent made a donation from their heart.

[@crystalgrose]

I think high schools should start preparing students for this process the first year they come in - not wait until they are juniors and seniors soon to graduate. Students need to understand the college process so they can prepare themselves to be competitive as soon as possible. College is a very selective place.

[@annmaeri1591]

Crystal Grose that's exactly what I think but I'm only in middle school

[@keziahb.5485]

As a senior who is freaking out about college admissions, I really have to agree.

[@zackmcfellers7103]

thats moronic. not everyone belongs in college. just work your hardest, figure out who you are, and figure it out from there. if college is the right thing, go for it. if not, then follow a different passion. no need to strategize around the admissions game as a freshman.

[@katiemorgan8788]

Crystal Grose agree, if i knew this then i wouldnt of slacked freshman year

[@arielle3692]

100% AGREE

[@arthurutnehmer]

This worries me, especially the guy who is unsure and impulsively raising his hand.

[@financehardo7537]

These are the ppl that got denied when they were young

[@andernaugle8962]

Watching this as a high school senior currently waiting for my first acceptance letter freaks me out.

[@stephenowususerbeh]

Lol....everything will be fine

[@ftiermemes7436]

Good luck

[@kohlcooke8789]

Don't worry, I'm sure you'll be fine

[@thenomad9963]

Same feeling here. I'm both extremely excited and anxious!

[@andernaugle8962]

Sherry Judith yes I did!

[@ganeshgajavelli1487]

This is crazy. what the heck is this? I can't believe it's so subjective. Like somebody might be having a bad day and just decide that they want to deny everybody. How can they judge everybody on where they're from? Yeah he's in a metropolitan area, he should have more extracurriculars. What is that? should?!?! And teachers have such huge effect on your grades. I've gotten crap grades throughout last year's math class but got a 5 on the AP. How do you explain that? So weird.

[@kohlcooke8789]

Yeah, it's annoying. I feel like if every student in a class is doing badly then colleges should recognize that it's probably the teachers fault.

[@ganeshgajavelli1487]

Chloe LIN I suppose that’s the case, but the fact that each admissions officer has such an equal weight in addition to each person having so much bias makes it only marginally more comforting. Maybe what needs to be done is take the implicit biases from people out of the equation by using a Neural Network trained on a datatset of all acceptances/rejections along with their Median income or some other success-measurement to determine whether someone's subjective "fit" for the school really lead to success later in life. Using a model like that to then predict how likely a student will succeed if accepted given their accolades would maybe bring some more objectivity and reasoning to the system based on the ever elusive "fit" that these admissions directors profess about. Honestly I'm just messing around (at least in my experience Neural Nets are a bit overhyped) but seriosuly it's frustrating that kids every day have what it takes and can't capitalize on that due to some arbitrary decisions made by these seemingly random people.

[@fish-fy5sh]

that sucks. you just have to become so great that they can't reject you, like you have to have a "wow factor" like winning a science olympiad medal

[@ordoni7878]

Yeah GPA is a fucked measurement, even at my school there are teachers that give 100s and teachers that give 80s for the same courses so if I get teachers who just generally give lower grades I'm fucked by luck

[@anthonym4205]

This is really upsetting me tbh. It’s based off of their own feelings towards the person, even if their credentials are superb

[@trailermashproductions3437]

Yeah but grades dont mean everything.

[@MeMe-po1ze]

@@trailermashproductions3437 It’s still dumb. They need to adopt a meritocracy type of admissions system.

[@blaykebridge8315]

there isn’t really another wya to do it it’s all about the opinion but they make it a group to even it out and you haven the opinions of lots of people

[@TheYay1995]

its like hiring process. I don't care if you are at the top of your class..if you are an asshole/unteachable, I still don't want to hire you. So admission are done holistically where actually you should NOT be upset about... they are not disqualifying you on a single thing AND there are multiple brains and hearts in the room each making a case for you so you are given the best chances possible.

[@Rain2H0]

They shouldn't be allowed to look at other people's decisions, it influences them to raise their hands. (Notice how one looks around and gets this question in their heads, is it right to put my hand up?) and they should also be able to back up why they want them to be admitted, wait listed, etc. . C'mon man, we're paying good money for the application fee!

[@jaidenshahan7578]

I agree with your point but this college doesn't charge an application fee. They have almost 2 billion dollars thanks to Bill Gates & give out auto full rides to middle class Iowans.

[@ivi122]

AdrenalineNerd I agree. They should literally write down their decision and then compare with everyone else, that way they don’t get influenced by the amount of hands up...

[@juliuspugh3057]

I've never been more afraid of the college admissions process until now. This absurd how admissions officers treat candidates. you can simply be denied or accepted by rolling dice. This is unfair, subjective, scrutinizing and ridiculous. I wish every senior(I am a senior) the best in this game of Russian roulette.

[@fish-fy5sh]

just be so perfect that they can't reject you

[@clawdz.7879]

delilah some colleges actually may reject you because you have a perfect application lmao

[@danyala.1659]

@@clawdz.7879 Some colleges do this to protect their yield. If you're the "perfect applicant", it's likely you won't attend an average university.

[@mattiabinnoto8620]

@@clawdz.7879 lmao that's actually true. Schools want to admit students with a high chance of enrollment. If a student applies to uni A with a 50% acceptance rate, but admissions in uni A knows that his application will likely be accepted by a school with a 20% admit rate, so they'll waitlist or deny him for another student who has a high chance of attending.

[@jamesbedukodjograham5508]

This is becoming like Russian Roulette Just do the best that you can.

[@thecraftykingdomking7029]

5:42 “HoPeFUlLy tHiS cALmS SomE kIds DOwN” This only made me more stressed

[@njuyygerf2453]

Thanks alot Cornell University for accepting me. Just got accepted while seeing the video.

[@adrinothnagle]

njuyyg erf congratulations!!!!

[@christeenie]

njuyyg erf can you share your stats? SAT, ACT, GPA, APs, extracurriculars? I understand if you don’t feel comfortable sharing your stats but it would be greatly appreciated!

[@lukejackson9100]

I find out today, congratulations from the future

[@trailermashproductions3437]

@@christeenie fuck off, peoples grades are not any of your business

[@rcoverc]

Trailer Mashup Production chill dude, he’s not forcing the guy to say anything. he’s just curious. imo it was a reasonable way to ask

[@abigailr.7487]

My heart started racing 😭praying to god I get into the school right for me😩😌💜💜

[@web-unlocked]

did you get in?

[@kevinzeng5849]

This tried to make students or older adults less stressed out about the subject, but as a high school senior right now, this just only stresses me more about college admission decisions.

[@TheYay1995]

Keep in mind, each university's process is not the same... the way they are rolling over this is a little inorganized and anxiety provoking. At most schools there is a single-couple officer who read your app from front to back and either recommend or not recommend for admit. Then they all get together and decide on the top ones. So what they are showing here is towards the end of the process where apps have all been read already.

[@ivi122]

I would absolutely love that job of college admission. I find it fascinating!!!!!

[@FukitoSan]

Those people are usually professors, in case you do not know.

[@mariannezhou5636]

“don’t go overboard and feel like you have to take 5 advanced placement courses a year” me: *nervous laughter*

[@antikay5234]

they want you to be qualified and be at the top of your class, but when you try to impress you they go an say stuff like this 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@gabrielle_sn9200]

🤡

[@janyia3388]

Bruh literally what I been doing, 6 college classes each year😅

[@sportingdirector1]

I took 7 my junior year

[@blissfulmountain]

Thanks god I'm only watching this now that I'm in college. If I watched it while applying I'd freak out

[@tannercheck218]

I’m glad I watched this after I already got accepted to a couple schools. This would have scared me shitless if I saw this earlier.

[@user-jp7hu3jh4e]

I’m scared shitless. I find out in a week😟

[@DavidDuMusic]

It's no longer even 15 minutes. It's 15 seconds for a computer, then probably another five minutes for a real person after the computer decides the student has made the first cut.

[@libelulaocre500]

Dave White That’s how I know I didn’t get in University of Florida. 1200 SAT? Garbage

[@michellesong5190]

this made me scare

[@sweetangel7531]

Kpop fan !

[@michellesong5190]

HELLO FAM

[@johannesmohner8695]

Yeah and my girl does that job , so as ma parents. Pistol , where are you. Alexa , play Alan Jackson : he stopped lovin her todaaaayyyy"

[@nessax5136]

I GOT IN!!! THANK YOU GRINNELL

[@artisteye2283]

Me too LOL!

[@redthroatedloon]

maybe this is controversial, but i would LOVE to see my application being discussed, it would be so interesting (coming from a high school senior waiting for my decisions…)

[@drcola143]

Once you get accepted into a college and you started taking classes there, you can ask to see your admissions file and see what they discussed about you.

[@Kazakhandproud]

This terrifies me. Can’t wait to be rejected 🤭😭

[@emmahoner1308]

Nick G same😭

[@janyia3388]

So what college you go to now?🤣

[@drowsy_mouse8406]

these people are psychotic

[@swegkilla2015]

They can’t take everyone

[@kalzaitoun6310]

They should create a class for admissions to college

[@v.1802]

Tina is nice.

[@reneehuang8428]

Long live the Tinas in the world

[@shauryapandya1662]

they should never use that song in this context...

[@divyyy4358]

lololol Best part is the kid waving hysterically behind the screen from 4:05 to 4:16 hahahaha

[@JustAnotherLokiStan]

Lmao ikr

[@JustAnotherLokiStan]

Also aren't you that guy on Quora who got into Upenn?

[@michaelcrotty2632]

gotta love the social network theme music in the background

[@kaeyynn]

This just worries me and I’m not even writing up my college applications yet.

[@sportingdirector1]

Keep in mind that if you get rejected, that doesn't mean you're unqualified. Just not perceived as a fit. Don't worry, you'll go to a college, get a job, and have a good life. Just don't forget your work ethic and what you stand for.

[@robertofritze1907]

crap shoot

[@maroonhorizon1693]

"don't take 5 aps" uhhhhhh uhhhh

[@kedaariyer4887]

Lmao that's literally half of my friends this year, I know two people who are taking 6 ap's out of 7 classes which is absurd

[@sae2424]

I’m taking 7😬

[@davideyaliscool]

lmao taking 4 sophomore year

[@memphisgrizzlies3398]

yall in these comments are weird im taking 1 and im on track to go into some good schools

[@_daily_dose_of_me_7915]

Michael Conley Jr. how are we weird

[@AbelCade]

Gambling admissions is not okay!!

[@ellasteciuk3353]

Elite colleges like Grinnell have so many high-qualified applicants that it is impossible to have an objective admissions criteria. Princeton, for example, stated a few years ago that 80% of applicants were considered “well-qualified” (which, for an applicant from a standard public school, would be an unweighted GPA of 3.8 or higher and an SAT Score of 1400 or higher) but they can only offer admission to 6% of them, as there are a limited number of spots in each class.

[@sampledigger9955]

So Cornell does this for the 50,000 applications they receive? Crazy...

[@Andrew-jw2qs]

It is indeed insane

[@bpxl53yewz29]

No, not every college uses committees and when they are used, it is usually for applicants they are unsure of. For big schools it will only be 1 reader most likely spending 4-5 min on your application.

[@timron9521]

Tbh I’d be happy if just one person said that they wanted to admit me

[@emilybeatriz7951]

I don't have any extra circular activity and I wish I can re-do my essy! I alreas sent it though

[@jean-baptistesay6941]

EmilyBeatriz lmao

[@mychemicaldirection]

EmilyBeatriz sucks to be you

[@rinnychan8]

EmilyBeatriz Yikes, that is kind of bad :/ Let’s hope everything else in your application looks good though?

[@timethiustheally32]

@@paulshin4649 Sacrifice lol

[@abelincolnparth]

The vast majority of college level material could be put on a database of lectures, books, quizzes and exams could be proctored at public libraries or high schools in the evening. The advantage of a classroom is the momentum of covering the material, that can be recreated by zoom like technology. This could be done for free. No more of this exclusion of opportunities, it is oppression.

[@MatteoSimeone22]

With tens of thousands of applications today it’s impossible for them to make proper decisions.

[@ct8377]

"The process is highly subjective" -And how is that fair? I just hope I get into my dream school

[@artisteye2283]

I graduated from Grinnell College, I would love to see a video of my admission review.

[@victorvegons9046]

Holy F, would you stop the lousy background music, so i can heart the discussion?

[@ckeducation2010]

Students and parents are so misinformed on how the college admissions process really works. This gives you a glimpse, but just scratches the surface. Please get informed and learn the truth.

[@steventcheouafei174]

I didn't take any high level classes freshman year... Is this bad?

[@hybridcannon]

Steven Tcheouafei No, it’s fine as long as you take them next few years. And it’s not mandatory to take any the first year or any year.

[@mychemicaldirection]

Yes

[@steventcheouafei174]

@@mychemicaldirection how?

[@rinnychan8]

Not really- my school actually PROHIBITS first year students from most honors and AP classes unless you have made accommodations with the headmasters. Coming from that kind of perspective, it doesn’t REALLY matter if you take advanced classes at all or not, esp. for first years, but if you want better chances at really good colleges, I would take maybe one or two higher-leveled courses at your strongest subjects in the later years. Idk, it really isn’t the end of the world if you didn’t, and the most important thing is to do what’s best to your level, because happiness > stress and misery.

[@rayanrahmani9838]

they don’t care that much about freshman grades, as long as you’re improving and taking harder classes each year afterwards

[@ericchengtv3506]

The used music from The Social Network ayyy

[@bpxl53yewz29]

This was 7 yrs ago when the number of applicants wasn’t so huge as it is today. Top schools now get over 110,000 applications and they only spend 4-5 minutes on each application. It’s too subjective. And when they have to decide between 2 candidates, they will go with the student who can pay full or near full tuition. Sad it is all about money.

[@artisteye2283]

Not necessarily, I got a full scholarship and I did not have all straight A's. Grinnell is need blind.

[@Kumbaya4]

Why does it feel like they're determining life or death for the student. lol

[@kimjungun2770]

Yes i plan on suicide if I don’t get into a top 15 uni.

[@nunyabusiness3938]

@@kimjungun2770 hey idk if you’re joking or not but please don’t consider suicide. College is just a tiny point in ones life and there is so much more to accomplish after college. In the end, we will all end up in the same place and someone from a lesser known uni can work alongside someone from Harvard. Your acheivement is not determined by ur education only

[@kimjungun2770]

@@nunyabusiness3938 well that is true but how would you get a higher income in an average university? I was always taught that getting into one of the ivy leagues, would mean a high income, a better job, and a better life.

[@nunyabusiness3938]

@@kimjungun2770 In terms of job applications, there is far more to be taken account for besides the school one attends. Your additional skills, extra courses you’ve taken, people you’ve worked with, even things like how confident you appear during an interview are can determine if you make it into a high paying job. Also, keep in mind that while getting in an ivy leagues is a good accomplishment, there is a lot of competition in the student body which can make it hard to stand out in job applications. Therefore, even if you attend an average school, if you take extra courses, spend time on extracurriculars and hobbies, and gain some job experience, even if its the smallest job, that will allow you to gain a high paying job in the future.

[@rinnychan8]

Ngl as someone who just applied this year I’m fucking horrified if this is how all colleges are :/

[@lazzybeatz]

Rolling admission is based on first come first serve even with low grade they can accept u

[@crescent7718]

3:45 lol the little kid waving

[@jamesbedukodjograham5508]

In Ghana and the rest of West Africa we have the Baccalaureat and the WASSCE system of education. We even apply to US Colleges to understand some matters.

[@bascal133]

The Facebook music makes everything better

[@Clxffzy]

Who else waved back at the girl...

[@mablevins08]

Why aren't the applications run through a computer algorithm instead of this highly subjective and unreasonable process?

[@ellasteciuk3353]

Elite colleges like Grinnell have so many high-qualified applicants that it is impossible to have an objective admissions criteria. Princeton, for example, stated a few years ago that 80% of applicants were considered “well-qualified” (which, for an applicant from a standard public school, would be an unweighted GPA of 3.8 or higher and an SAT Score of 1400 or higher) but they can only offer admission to 6% of them, as there are a limited number of spots in each class.

[@averyweasel]

holy cow i didn't know Hillary Clinton was a news reporter

[@lordchold2316]

1:09 so being a poc helps ur chances quite a bit

[@yohanekipandula5197]

This is so great

[@meemon7580]

But if you lie in your essay?

[@nightraider0075]

Shah Riar1121 they dont know, you'll have a guarenteed spot if you say your muslim immigrant facing discrimination

[@teatea663]

My coskills teacher says that you can lie it's not like they know everything about you.. You could be a nerd who watches anime but they'll never know.

[@itsharris2345]

nightraider007 LoL. I kinda fit that description, although I was born here and I’m not discriminated against.

[@aaronestrera2241]

You could lie but again it prolly will do more harm than good. You need evidence in your papers

[@amine2432]

@@nightraider0075 you really said :clown: They call your counselor if they realize something is up. They also know your parent's name and stuff.

[@MintTheGoat17]

oh i’m so screwed

[@YAYHQ]

Thank you to NYU for accepting me and not being racist lol

[@mgg5577]

I think all american public/private high school They should train them at their early grade Like 7th grade and be ready before they reach their college admission

[@Yeoknow]

The editor is a film student using social network music lmfao 😭

[@jinxg7188]

I got waitlisted at Grinnell

[@jrods724]

Insane people stressing and killing themselves for the honor to pay 80K a year to attend university.

[@ellasteciuk3353]

As a student who attends one of these elite colleges, the main benefit of attending these schools is not the education; it is the networking. It is much harder for certain industries (particularly the high-paying ones, such as consulting and investment banking) to get the internships you need to break into the industry after graduation if you do not attend one of these schools, and it is also much harder to get into certain graduate programs if you do not attend one of these schools. Medical schools and law schools are exceptions, as you can definitely get into a top medical school or law school by doing really well at a state flagship university. However, for many Ph.D. programs (including the area in which I intend to get my Ph.D.), you almost need to attend a top undergraduate institution to get a Ph.D. One MIT Professor in my field even went as far as to say that your connections and prestige of the undergrad institution you attended (which often go hand in hand) are so important, that GPA is more of a “secondary factor” in admission. Out of roughly 200-250 students in the top 10 Ph.D. programs in my field each year, there will usually only be 5 who did not attend elite undergraduate institutions. Also, prestige is typically the most important factor in choosing a Ph.D. program, because the more prestigious the institution you get your Ph.D. from, the more likely you are to obtain a tenure-track professorship (which is the goal of most Ph.D. candidates).

[@jamesbedukodjograham5508]

Compared to Year 2000 the College Admissios system is now corrupted. SAT Scores can be controlled and grades are sometimes within ones power. The only decider Is the Essay that one writes or the personal statement, Good grades are important but not everything. So how are foreign students evaluated by US Colleges. This Grinnell College Admissions Process Is really biased and unfair. Wits are what drives them plus money. The good side the SAT is a great equalizer like the A Levels of the UK.

[@jessicadu6103]

An incoming junior already got nervous 😬

[@bevvy.bee9]

knowledge is power, don't forget that

[@imanipatrice9492]

Just submitted my applications😬

[@shlokmalpani3157]

u gott in??? and wheree?

[@higgs_boson2231]

Why the fuck are they so giddy about denying? Do they think this is a game?

[@daimkaotgoo1107]

the never mention about the recommendation letter. everyone fakes their rec letter.

[@iFreeThink]

I do data entry. :[

[@l.n.9462]

ARE ALL COLLEGES LIKE THIS

[@kantovagrant3194]

Only in the US.

[@pirouz8042]

bruh I thought this was going to be satire

[@larissaperez5161]

LMAO

[@crynouxtehgawd4899]

To be honest all colleges really want to know is are you going to be somebody in the future that will make us look good. I am 13 and when I apply to my colleges next year I am going to tell it how it is and let them know I know what they are thinking. Doing this makes them realize that you actually know how this stuff goes and works and you have the same mentally as them. Giving you a better chance to get accepted in my opinion but I could be wrong. I highly doubt the process really goes like this but aye. Believe want you to believe want. And also just be you in your essays or whatever unless you are a loser lol.

[@Baconator1368]

Why would you apply to college if your 13. You don't do that until you're like 16 or 17.

[@Rach30sectomars]

Crynoux TeH GawD Yeah but it makes you seem formulaic. It makes you seen that you have no personality. You have to show who you are. I'm almost done with my replies from uni and I got into a lot of universities that I'm actually way below the average SAT yet they accepted me. My extracurriculars and essays, in my opinion, are what saved me. I think they truly reflect who I am, not what a college wants to see. The only problem is that if you're not passionate about anything then it's going to be difficult. Yeah and why are you applying when you're 13-14 lol. Don't bother. Just work on your grades and extracurrics now

[@viktoriyat6131]

Crynoux TeH GawD unless it's a top university like the ivies or caltech/MIT... they look for people who would not only survive the immense workload but be able to thrive at such a demanding school

[@itsharris2345]

Baconator1368 I believe he means Year 13, which is the final year of compulsory education in many countries.

[@notjin2109]

Baconator1368 early admission

[@tinhinnh]

never heard of Grinnell 😂

[@Jeffh206]

I’m always curious how often schools talk to high school talk to their students about community college options. I think Mia college is a great option especially if you didn’t do so well academically in high school give me a college could be that opportunity to kind of make up for that and you get that AA degree you can transfer to a four-year university. In some cases you don’t even have to penis you’re a degree. If you just wanna do a year of college and just do really well academically, you don’t earn 30 or 40 credit that will sometimes get you into a university. Economically can you give me a call just a great way to go. Also, give me a call just can increase your chances of getting into the college that Steve generally difficult to get into a straight out of high school.

[@sukantasaha5678]

5:12 xD

[@prskyguy]

Thank God for Affirmative action.

[@pyadav8563]

I am a high school freshmen really scared don't know what to do

[@larissaperez5161]

me too :(

[@Samir-rd8xp]

you don’t need to worry, you have a lot of time

[@Samir-rd8xp]

@@larissaperez5161 u don’t have to worry this early

[@cindymx02]

Honestly, save the time and do a lottery. Get it over with. You heard it kids, do your best and relax, its really not up to you. Dont kill yourselves, not worth it.

[@anthonyamaya5030]

I’m scared now smh 🤦‍♂️

[@Ruben-yi1bc]

Lol this Just made hate colegges even more

[@miah2782]

Not gonna lie I got triggered when they said why should we treat a musician different than an athlete. Bitch do u know how much work athletes have to put in in time and physical effort?!!??????!!!!!

[@ellasteciuk3353]

…Are you suggesting musicians do not have to put in a lot of time and effort?

[@eo4295]

Do you know how much work MUSICIANS have to put in time and physical effort?? Please do not judge if you’re clueless.

[@tyasian]

I’m scared-

[@tyasian]

I got accepted 😅

[@samghoubrial3809]

Can you say YALE

[@erinrenzi3610]

this is honestly so disgusting lol

[@samghoubrial3809]

any applicant with an ACT 30 or better would not even consider this school ...Grinelle college is joke

[@jdelgado837]

at the very least, they didnt seem professional at all

[@jigglypuff7_5280]

I will just work lol 😂

[@esi5021]

This is scary lol

[@lettersandpoims]

This is getting scary

[@benv7933]

This is scary and stupid

[@ArnoldSommerfeld]

How sad. 6 mediocrities judging students who are, intellectually, far superior to any of them.

[@michaelstabin9299]

I pooped

[@isomorphism__9154]

absolutely disgusting..

[@Pcarnevaaa]

Scam af

[@iFreeThink]

I didn't know an Asian female could walk around.