Megalithic constructions in Thrace - Bulgaria

[@mattcavana]

Another fascinating video, thank you! I'll have to visit Bulgaria to see these places in person!

[@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall]

Thank you. I think it's well worth a visit. Even if (dirty secret) I could not visit those sites myself. But I am now convinced I should and hope to have done a good job about them.

[@brockg6194]

Very interesting, thanks for sharing.

[@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall]

Thank you!

[@SuperRobinjames]

Thanks

[@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall]

thank you!

[@ArnoWalter]

Nice and you're right. Trying to understand their motivation and rational to build like that, make's it even stranger to comprehend.

[@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall]

yes, it is! I spend so much time (too much obviously) trying to imagine what was going on in the head on the cyclopean builders and all I can get to, being very scientific, is: cuckoo-nuts.

[@ArnoWalter]

@@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall Yeah, the facts are weird. #1 Obviously they could #2 They deliberatley decided against an easier approach The conclusion? Either mortar and smaller stones wasn't easier for them or they had another reason we don't know. I believe in the overall principle that they only went crazy after the base necessities had been met. Like we today, 90% is infrastructure and housing and only 10% is cultural/spiritual.

[@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall]

@@ArnoWalter You are right on the money. I can't think of a way to put this on video, especially because is a complex answer (or no answer at all). The facts are: They went mad in stone carving doing absurd efforts. Why? God knows. Here's a couple of hypothesis (next comment)

[@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall]

1)It was easy - Don't think so. The energy expenditure would be similar for any approach, and I have not seen signs they had access to illimited energy. Some dark chemical knowledge could help with carving, making stone surface softer, but not very much and only for a specific type of rock. And these cultures tend to use different types of stones, meaning they would have to have several recipes for the solvent. I think it was hard work, as hard as it looks to the naked eye.

[@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall]

2)Free time - sure, they were prosperous, there was immense excess of labor. Feeding was not a problem, neither time. When I see saying pyramids being built in 20 years I have to roll my eyes, because they never take into consideration the amount of free time left after providing for basic necessities. Aristocrats are 1 to 100 because they do not work and someone has to. Having 20.000 stonemasons implies 1 or 2.000.000 working the fields. So, not only the builders were properous, they took forever to build that stuff, each cyclopean hill fort would have take decades of effort for the small city/village they serve.

[@atanasstoilov421]

First european, and possibly worlds civilization 🤍💚❤️

[@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall]

Amazing stuff.

[@gruboniell4189]

Sorry, I don’t if I’m sending 2 posts each time I post. My phone does that sometimes

[@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall]

No worries. I'll check that and try to fix it, but, it looks like youtube is controlling the issue somehow.

[@PatriceBoivin]

Interesting as usual, thank you. If we can identify who these pre-Mycenaean cyclopean builders were, I would be curious to see if they gave the Mycenaeans ideas for their myths -- Pan, Hermes, Hecate, Demeter, Persephone (but no Hades yet, at least not in Linear B?). Really old gods.

[@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall]

I'm not good with mythology, so can't really be sure. But here's some thoughts: - Linear B is in Minoan and in the palaces of Mycenean, I don't thing the Cyclopean builders would use writing. - Hercules is fighting the gods/beast of the underworld associated with the old religion. I have a feeling Hercules was fighting the gods of the cyclopean builders. - once followed a trail of the "mother earth" and fertility cults, but it got me nowhere and was packed with feminazi ideology. - the guys with the Phyrgian hat are valid candidates to old gods. Just as the Sybils and Cybelle.

[@nixter888]

The opposite, The Greek Minyans did that! The Minyas were a prehistoric Greek nation that lived in Boeotia and indeed in Orchomenos of Boeotia as opposed to Orchomenos of Thessaly,and they were great engineerswe also know when the first spread of the Minyans took place. The 6th and 5th millennium BC.

[@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall]

@@nixter888 well, I guess we are talking different things: -Myneans are cyclopean builders, from Boeotia, without writing. -But Minoans are non-cyclopean builders that came up with Linear A and B, and also their capital Knossos is built with mortar. I think Myneans are either another name or a special type of Pelasgians. Thus, proper cyclopean builders. Whilst Minoans were just another competing group, not part of the big-stone-culture. Did I understood you correctly?

[@MrAwesomeBikerDude]

Just a thought, how far did the ice-age ice get to? Did it cover the empty quarters? If the polygonal walls where built during ice-age, then none would be found where the ice was back then. I don't know but is there any polygonal masonry structures that where built on areas previously covered by ice?

[@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall]

It's a good idea, and it might be the case, but I think it is not. Here's a closer look at the empty quarter: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3-Vd6isYp57sNk The distance to the border cyclopean sites is just too small. There are cyclopean walls in Thessaly (out of the quarter) and not in Macedonia (in the quarter) and both areas would have the same ice coverage during the Ice Age. So, don't think climate was a factor. Still a good idea and I might be wrong.

[@gruboniell4189]

Cernavodă These ppl possibly brought Indo-Anatolian to Anatolia. Also name in Turkish is Boğazköy which sounds like “pelasgoi”. They came in 4000-3000 bc preceding many known Anatolian Bronze Age cultures Is there polygonal works to the high north?

[@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall]

Next video is it! Keep posted in the channel and we will get to that soon enough, more or less in a week, or two. Still on the research/writing phase, so let's leave it open for now.

[@CosmicNomad93]

awesome video man. Just wanted to comment and see are you familiar with Bruce Cathie? You might find his research interesting. Cheers

[@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall]

Thank you! Never heard of him, after a quick look online is he the former pilot and alien hunter?

[@CosmicNomad93]

@@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall yes but he also talks about the Earth's magnetic energy grid and mapping it. I thought it might overlap with areas of your research, I could be wrong though

[@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall]

@@CosmicNomad93 It is interesting for sure, thanks. Just checking had the right person. Bookmarked a bunch of stuff to review later.

[@slawomirpagas3651]

Do you know anyone taking tours around Bulgaria to see such places??

[@slawomirpagas3651]

I ma wrongly compiled my question. Do you know anyone that can show me Polygonal work in Plovdiv or in other place in Bulgaria????? I move to Plvdiv 2 years ago but I would never guess Cyclopean residues in Plovdiv.

[@seti5142]

you dont consider they could pour types of concrete?

[@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall]

Not really, I don't think concrete/geopolymer/newstone is a feasible alternative for any site with more than a handful of very weird stones, because of this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4GviXqYa7ile80

[@seti5142]

@@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall doesnt really make sense

[@williamolivadoti3867]

Polygonal walls are anti earthquake constructions . You can check the ancient earthquake activity in that region. Even a Third grader can figure this one out

[@williamolivadoti3867]

That's why polygonal walls are still standing and everything around it else has collapsed . Simple empirical deduction.

[@wiburgestrum7552]

Only partly true. They are in addition anti-fluvial on hill tops and on hill tops with steep slopes. But you can't find them all over earthquake sensitive etc. locations. Also later walls - where there have been cyclopian / polygonal walls before - are very often non-cyclopian. So the third grader needs to do some more research.

[@williamolivadoti3867]

I concur. Thank you!

[@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall]

@wilburgestrum7552 said it well. And there is a lot more. like: - why stop building? - why stop using mortar? -why not in North America or Southeast Asia -Why not in the Cyclopean Empty Quarter -Why go through all that extra work -If it resists much more, to water and earthquakes, does it mean they are older? -How did the really complex walls like in Alaca Hoyuk were made? etc.

[@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall]

@williamlivadoti3867 sorry I think you are coming late into the party. There's a lot more to polygonal than the earthquake resistance, I suggest you check other videos in the channel.

[@lilianalevren766]

1. I don’ t get it. What is the connection between the dolmen in Caucasus and Bulgaria? I suppose the builders moved from C to B, but there are no dolmens or poligonal walls in Romania. … and witch connection du you find to the eventual flooding of the Black Sea? There are dolmens even as far as in Sweden, Hagadösen, btw. They say 3500 bc. I don’t see any connection, yet. … and Malta megalithic structures almost the same age. That concerning building culture. Everything is puzzling! 2. Intressting to follow you. Thank you! 3. … and what a funny name: Murus Dacicus! Dacian wall south of Donau?!

[@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall]

1) Sorry if it isn't clear. Was just throwing wild ideas, let me try and be more clear. -The dolmens are strangely similar. -There are none in Romania, so the connection from Caucasus-Thrace would be via the black sea. -Back 4 or 5 thousand years crossing the black sea straight (not via the coast) would be complex -unless the sea was empty, like it was in 6.000BC. -there are dolmens dated 7.000BC in western europe. So, crazy idea, the people building those dolmens were linked by land. Land that now is under the sea. This is a wild idea, but it is less wild than say that the dolmens were built by the thracian. Because the Thracian were an advanced classical culture.

[@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall]

2. Thank you!

[@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall]

3. Yes, as a little ring of "biggus diccus" to it. Will start working on the next video tomorrow (I hope) will be ready within a week or two (I hope) in the meantime hope you enjoy some other videos of the channel.

[@lilianalevren766]

⁠@@One-eyedgiantbuildingwallAh! You mean before the Black Sea flood ca 5600 bc … I get it. Interesting!

[@lilianalevren766]

@@One-eyedgiantbuildingwallSure!

[@CZOV]

Plovdiv is probably work of Hercules when he was passing by on his way to Macedonia. As the rest of the stone works are attributed to gods or demi-gods.

[@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall]

I'm not advancing on the project of doing a video about Hercules, but my first impression is the opposite, he is sort of a cyclops slayer. Fighting the old-ways and old-religion. Do you have any info otherwise? It would help me not to wander in the wrong path.

[@gruboniell4189]

The doleman works are very well done. Very clean and very old!!! Maybe the dolemans were the first’s works before seeing giant walls and replicated them in the doleman way(one stone at a time). 🤷

[@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall]

well, yes. There are dolmens in western Europe dated 7.000BC By that time the Black sea might be empty, thus, the Caucasus could reach Thrace by foot.

[@gruboniell4189]

@ that’s true!!

[@sergeyt2947]

Softening tech applied all over the world explains it all.

[@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall]

mmm, I am not convinced by those techniques in Europe. The energy cost and the variety of stones and the amount of poorly fitted walls make me think otherwisd. Like this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4GviXqYa7ile80

[@sergeyt2947]

@@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall thing is - we know nothing about energy cost.

[@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall]

​@@sergeyt2947 Well the basic energy to re-do the chemical bonds in rock is always massive, despite on how it is sourced (be it in volcanos as nature does it or in oil furnaces as we do today). The superficial softening of the stones, what the Inca sources call Red-clay is much less energy demanding and could be done but only for millimeters of fine-tuning, not as a replacement of the carving/polishing. Considering the essential physics/chemistry of the process, I'd say it's only viable for extreme cases, a couple of stones very well carved, not for full sized buildings or walls.

[@sergeyt2947]

@ Again, we know nothing about how that was done and what technology was used. What we do know is that today we do not have it. I think with that tech it was very easy for them to do all those feats. To lift huge blocks, to manipulate shapes and forms, to place and adjust them. Maybe they had machines for that and that was not done manually. Guesses, guesses, we ll never know the answer.

[@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall]

@@sergeyt2947 True, what I'm implying is that the chemical bonds within the materials are the same and known. Whatever the particular technique, they would need to harvest massive energy to create "artificial stone" at scale. That leaves two options: -some "out-of-earth" technology -very limited use of the technology to only a handful of stones. So far, I'm in the second field of thinking.

[@Mephistopholies]

F*cking wow!

[@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall]

Thank you! Happy you liked it. Maybe you haven't seen this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3-Vd6isYp57sNk

[@gruboniell4189]

Cyclopes; one dimension- when making walls they only looked at the face. They dress it flat. 3d vision gives you a set up where before you start the stones are already level/square. B) they couldn’t conceive angles & therefore only saw the world as curves and archs as seen by the stars. They were the centre of the measure rather then putting the datum onto the space they working on. Deep

[@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall]

naaa :)

[@gruboniell4189]

@ 🤣

[@gruboniell4189]

@ my intuition and initial thought was “cyclopes” was monists. But then a pagan called the cyclopes “circular thinking, thier mind can’t get out of their own loop of logic”.

[@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall]

@@gruboniell4189 I resent all those imperialistic attempts at shaming the cyclops. Sure, the castrated gods and the snake bites and the phyrgian hats are weird, but what if those are just fabricated by the upcoming "civilized" forces?

[@gruboniell4189]

@ fair enough. Seems like the Kura-araxes was the crew that dislodged to original inhabitants of Turkey. The kura-araxes became the Hittites(apparently). These ppl were associated with Medea, Medusa and the Amazonian women.

[@clareryan3843]

Those dolmans that look like the Caucasian dolmans also look very similar to Dolmans in parts of India that I saw in Praveen Mohan’s channel - small with round holes cut for doorways. Crazy really🤔 Also it does appear as if Dolmans have been built pretty much everywhere on Earth - but not in New Zealand, and not in Australia which is also weird 🤔 there is Cyclopean stonework on the pacific islands and in SE Asia. The Kaimanawa wall in New Zealand is pretty controversial- MIGHT be cyclopean, but more probably natural formation given there is nothing else cyclopean anywhere else

[@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall]

I guess someone should start a channel just for dolmens, they deserve a @ twoeyedgiantbuildingdolmens! It is a biiig mystery, literaly. The spread of the dolmens from Portugal to Korea (and not to other continents. Now, we are told they are unrelated, and that a slab is a simple idea (that much I agree). But the Caucasus/Bulgaria dolmens are more similar than that, they do have the hole doors, and the size, and the antechambers, and the stone facades, and the size (they are actually rather small. The ones in India are nice, but beyond the hole they seem a bit different to me. being made with slabs of sedimentary rock that does not need carving. Still, it's a really by mystery and no one pays attention. I even had trouble finding proper footage for them. And it is silly that people say the dolmens in Bulgaria are "thracian". The Thracians build the "valley of the kings" tombs, they were an advanced culture in 4BC.

[@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall]

I have looked (in videos) at the wall in New Zealand and right now my feeling it is a natural accident. Maybe I'm wrong, but that was what I concluded (by looking at videos...)

[@DataBeingCollected]

Great video, interesting to see some of the other construction in context. Do you have any coastal middle eastern examples of Cyclopean walls by any chance? Especially along the western Red Sea coast up to Syria. The reason I am asking, I have a very speculative theory I want to share about the Solluba. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solluba. Here is what I think as of now. The Solluba are an important connection to all of this. I agree with the anthropologists who believe they are related to the Selappayu in Akkadian records. Today, a forgotten remnant/descendants of whatever existed in the past, with all the other branches of the “family” moving on to other things all over the Mediterranean/Europe/Eurasian Steppe. The Solluba are sort of the weird anthropological time capsule that stuck to the original ways that never left Arabia. I think that they are behind the Arabic traditions about non-Arabs origins of Yathrib, now known as Medina. From Arabic tradition, directly translated from the Arabic into English with the aid of google: “It was settled by the tribe of Abel by Yathrib, which was named after him, and found in it fertile land, trees and water until the Amaliq came and inhabited after them and the malqans of Noah's descendants came out of Babylon and settled between Tihama and Mecca and stayed in it until the time of their king Samida.” Amaliq specifically meaning the Amalekites in the Hebrew tradition. Traditional Arabic viewpoints also specifically associate “The Amaliq” with “giants”, and also a branch of the Hyksos and Amorites. I believe the story of Zarqa al Yamama (mythical blue eye’d seeress of pre-Islamic tradition. The “Arabic” version of the Trojan War Cassandra.) is also connected. I think the Solluba are connected with the Natufians, and some far earlier branch of them was part of what happened at Gobekli Tepe and the surrounding Tepes. Why? This is weak evidence, but the importance of the desert kites used to hunt large numbers of gazelle around those sites. There is a living tradition of this in Arabia, though now mostly forgotten, and it is with the Solluba. The purpose of the Gobekli Tepe desert kites have to consider the identical traditional practice of the Solluba. Some academics believe that the Natufians were important for the sites in and around Gobekli Tepe. There is also material evidence that suggests that the Natufians also lived in North Africa. We have the Egyptian records of the Libu, also known for wearing animal skins such as deer or gazelle. It’s possible in my mind that the Libu in North Africa and their earlier ancestors lived this similar gazelle focused hunter-gatherer lifestyle based on the circumstantial evidence. It has always struck me that the Egyptian depictions of the Libyans had a distinctive “Celtic” flair, and I don’t think that should be dismissed personally. Another important piece of evidence to consider. IF the solluba are a last living remnant of this Paleolithic lifestyle, then the odds are pretty good their ancestors were the ones who domesticated donkeys first (for which they are famous for with the Bedouin, the white Solluba Donkey), or were the first group to bring domesticated donkeys out of Africa at the very least. I think this needs to be taken into context of the Syrian Kunga, a donkey hybrid. A prestige equid around 3000 BC before horses in the Kingdom of Ebla used as royal gifts. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunga_(equid) Naturally, the Palace at Qatna in Syria around 2000 BC also needs to be considered, for its large hordes of Baltic Amber. Qatna was inhabited by different peoples, most importantly the Amorites(Arabic “Amaliq”?), who established the kingdom, followed by the Arameans; Hurrians became part of the society in the 15th century BC and influenced Qatna's written language. The city's art is distinctive and shows signs of contact with different surrounding regions. The artifacts of Qatna show high-quality workmanship. The city's religion was complex and based on many cults in which ancestor worship played an important role. Qatna's location in the middle of the Near East trade networks helped it achieve wealth and prosperity; it traded with regions as far away as the Baltic and Afghanistan. And this gets to my next part. Istria in Croatia, land of the Liburnians. The primary known sea terminus for the Baltic amber road into the Mediterranean. Just one of probably a number of routes that I believe were being used earlier with the salt trade, which saw Amber reach Qatna in Syria around 2000 BC out of the Baltics. When taken in context of the age of the obsidian sea trade out of Sardinia in the Neolithic (much much earlier), I don’t think it is far fetched to assume seaborne methods were also used to trade amber out of Istria to places as far away as Syria by sea. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber_Road I believe, or speculate rather, that these Liburnians were associated with the Libu in North Africa, and pre-date the later Greeks who do write about the Libu, (as well as the Egyptians). I think it is also worth noting the lands adjacent to Istria, the lands of the Boii, Bohemia. The oldest Jewish sources refer to Bohemia as "Ereẓ Kena'an,”, or “Kena’an” or “Caanan”.

[@DataBeingCollected]

Finally, Even if there is not much Cyclopean masonry in the Arabic region I was asking about, I do think that what your video here goes over about adjacent dry stone traditions (such as the dry stone beehive construction, which stretches from Arabia in Oman and the UAE, and all across the Mediterranean to Sardinia) might be able to be understood as different cultural expressions of these more “Solluba/Natufian/Libu” type individuals.

[@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall]

well well well. I know nothing about everything that you commented on, so will not help significantly. I do have a list of cyclopean sites: maps.app.goo.gl/SyfwJGR58xa3yUei9 and it includes a bunch of middle eastern sites. Although most of them are what I think of being "phoenician style" the huge squarish blocks. Yet, there is one site (that I know of) called: Horvat Tefen, Israel, that has pretty much a "european" cyclopean wall. Beyond that, I haven't studied the region at all, so at a loss to comment. But did took a lot of notes for further research

[@DataBeingCollected]

@@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall Thank you for that! And yes, it is a lot to throw at you at once. I apologize. This is the first place where I finally decided to write it all out. I decided it’s just better to sound crazy, as long as I admit that it’s just speculation and open to change with new information. It’s an ongoing study on my end!

[@wiburgestrum7552]

@@DataBeingCollected I do know of two location which might be interesting for you: Al-Dschubail in Lebanon near the coast and Tall-Bazi in Syria. None near the Red See. And I don't know of any connection to the Solluba tribe.

[@DataBeingCollected]

@@wiburgestrum7552 Thank you, I will check it out. Yeah, no sites will be directly connected with the Solluba I am sure. it is just a theory/speculation on my part that in the distant past, some “relatives” branched off and went and did other things, while the ancestors of the Solluba just maintained the old paleo-lithic hunter-gatherer ways the entire time. I appreciate it though!

[@gruboniell4189]

The stone cut tombs; are for use of only 1-3 nights. The death & resurrection was an initiation into the secret mysteries. Christian’s took this way of life in the early days but the mystery was re-hidden by Rome and now only seen as glypses in art

[@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall]

Mmm. Not sure, it makes sense for the case of 1 or 2 (like in Tatul) but not for the cases with 4 or 5 (Pantelleria, Heysham) even less for Moreira de Rei that has like 100. I'd say exposing the dead body could be a temporary idea for "soul releasing" but not to resurrection. My bet in those sites is for relics. bones. not for fresh bodies. Also they might have more than one usage/motivation.

[@ralphstern2845]

You are mistaken in believing that cyclopean masonry all occurred in the same time period around the world.

[@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall]

You are mistaken, I did not say that.

[@ralphstern2845]

@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall several comments led me to this conclusion

[@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall]

@@ralphstern2845 you are wrong in your conclusion. I made videos about Japan and Bolivia and Australia go check what I say about the dating of those sites.

[@gruboniell4189]

Eagle rock reminds me of the papua new Guinea cliff graves. Mixed with the Zoroastrian(birds pick the bones) and Prometheus narrative on the minds of that Man then I’m not suprised to find evidence to suggest the “myths” have gory truths to them.

[@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall]

I have just worthless info about that Eagle Rock, but it is so amazing I had to include in the video, even if had nothing to say about it. 1) No grave goods were found in the site. The niches are quite small and not deep, I would say hard to use as a deposit for anything. 2) It is close by to the other big sites (Tatul and Perperikon) in the same mountain range, bordering Greece and south of Plovdiv. 3) Has nothing to do with the other sites in terms of decorative style. Crazy as the other carvings are, the Eagle Rock looks like a special type of madness on it's own style and plan. 4) It is called Thracian because academics are ridiculous, no archeological studies have been done and tbh, I don't think there is nothing to study, just empty holes.

[@gruboniell4189]

Bosphorus straight would have been the Phosphorus straight. That’s luciphorous (Luciphora) also known as Prometheus.

[@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall]

that's an interesting source for the name. Had no idea about it. The Thracian-Link is not for Bosphorus, is for Byzantium. Apparently, Byzantium is a Thracian word at source and the first inhabitants of the place were Thracian.

[@gruboniell4189]

@ seems like OG Roman’s were Thracian decent and only built mud huts until they made a temple for the Great Mother

[@nixter888]

The ancient Greek name Bosphorus is analyzed as vous (ox) + poros (passage), referring to Io from Greek mythology who was transformed into a cow and condemned to wander the earth until she crossed the Bosphorus, where she met Prometheus.

[@gruboniell4189]

@ that’s the goddess, the daughter of the devil. Eawa. The phorus is light as well, porus isn’t Phorus. Prometheus brought light(phorus) the tech he brought was then taken through the Bosphorus straight bringing the dawn to the world. That tech was purple dye, and biochemistry of life and death. The great mystery

[@Albert-o4b4d]

You mention many constructions around the world that could have connections to the cyclopean style but what about Cappadocia ?, who knows if that elaborate job does not belong to the same civilization way before all the various Tepes and other classical sites? They claim Cappadocia was carved after Christianity I say BS, that really doesn't make a lot of sense.

[@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall]

What you mean about Cappadocia? I understand is a large area with many different things in there. Is it the cave-houses?

[@Albert-o4b4d]

@@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall yes, Cappadocia could also be a place built in that era of history, not only caves and underground but the whole contour is s carved, could even be way before the cyclopeans and later on recycled and inhabited by refugees and other people hiding from prosecution .

[@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall]

​@@Albert-o4b4d Oh for sure. Those cave cities are just amazing and you might be onto something. Although, I never did made that link because the technique is not the same (cyclopean vs caves) meaning, building the caves cities was extensive stonework and those people were devoted to it. The same could be said from cyclopean walls, but it is a totally different skill and plan. So although both require an absurd dedication, I think they are going in different ways. Then there is another big difference, whereas the city caves are hidden underground, cyclopean walls are up the hill, where everyone can see them. That how I got to think the sanctuaries rock cut, in Bulgaria are related to the cyclopean walls. Both (walls and sanctuary) are up the hill and very visible. They were making a statement, to be seen from a far, quite unlike the city caves that remained hidden for thousands of years.

[@Albert-o4b4d]

@@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall you could be correct in all your assumptions, from what I have seen Cappadocia could be hundreds of thousands years old from an earlier civilization all together, maybe even in times when the earth was different covered by more oceans, they say gobekli tepe was covered or buried on purpose but maybe floods covered it through time, same with the pyramids in Bulgaria which may be related to the pyramid network going from Egypt to Peru and even Mexico and North America. Even the Mayan pyramids from hundreds of years ago today are being discovered covered by dirt looking like mounds. But definitely for me the elevated stone masonry and carving from Egypt was created not by Egyptians but by a civilization probably tenths of thousands of years earlier, that is why there is not a single picture or carving or mention or description of pyramids or temples in all Egypt and how were they made that's strange. The only problem is that the narrative of history and archaeology is owned by the national geographic, which itself are owned by the UN which is owned by the free masons who are the emissaries of the illuminate, who seem to be the rightful owners of this planet, I hope you are not confused :)

[@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall]

@@Albert-o4b4d I see you, and I really wish you were correct. I have full sympathy for all the (let's call them) fringe theories, I just wish them to be true, and also have an endless disdain for authorities and other thought police types. Still, the evidence (fabricated or not) is on the "mainstream" side, plus some of the alternative theories are likely extreme. So, in my videos I try to offer a "richer perspective". Pointing out plot holes or interesting (I think) perspectives, without engaging in any definitive side. You may call me out for ending up in no-man's land. And you'll be right, but that's just what feels right for me. I ended up in this channel after a couple of disappointing visits, to Machu Picchu and Easter Island where the local guides manage to disappoint me, actively dismissing what they didn't know to appear knowledgeable. I then decided to go looking for what made these sites special and here I am.