Melee moments that DEBUNK TIERLISTS

[@TheBasileman]

That Duck vs Hbox set is so bittersweet because on one hand it was amazing to see Samus do so well, but on the other hand, I don’t think Samus will ever get that close to winning anything ever

[@powerowl2120]

Yeah, it's tough because duck was like the last high level samus. Who knows how long it'll be before we see the rise of someone fully committed to the character. There is that one up and commer but I can't remember his name. They're nasty tho

[@KH-nova]

​@@Singleparentof20000yap god over here

[@KH-nova]

Wont be long before u see a samus in top 10 she has strong attacks and strong projectiles best recovery in the game like wtf more can u ask for

[@daisuke4bleach]

Yah I've always been a strong believer that she will return but that's also cuz she's my favorite so I'm a bit biased, but I firmly believe she has one of the most versatile tool sets and tho a lot of it can be mitigated or has no viable use at the moment, maybe one day it can be optimized better

[@deformedcat7682]

I'll give it some time. There are some top level Samus mains currently but they don't go to much. Morsecode beat Jmook and Cody last year. We also have swooper and wevans still. Wevans had one of the craziest online brackets for a Samus last year.

[@Thierce]

3:30 "sold to the forward air in the back" is such a great comms moment

[@DavidisOwnage]

Fun fact, Stark was actually present at the Duck vs Hbox set and took notes for this very video while eating a burger from burgers priest and looking handsome

[@StarkDoes]

SPEAK FOR YOURSELF GOOD LOOKIN' IT WAS A TEAM EFFORT

[@antomeister606]

No flatbread though...

[@onlookerofthings6029]

"A skilled Roy can beat any Fox" is becoming more and more visible

[@dad4436]

Great video! A couple recent (tho online) examples i like are Akir beating Hbox with DK and Warriorknight beating Fishbait with Bowser

[@StarkDoes]

I totally forgot about the hype Akir hbox sets! Also, Smash Papi had some cool bowser gameplay against medz at smash factor but nothing flashy enough that I wanted to highlight.

[@meemameemer5015]

This is accurate now that Cody lost to BING's DK and MorseCode's Samus at GOML

[@Blackmamba-ce3nb]

Never realized Spanish commentary was so hype

[@KH-nova]

I always hated melee commentary but that was fun

[@KalebSDay]

Some of the best commentary I can remember in recent years. The Australian stream was great too.

[@youtuberobbedmeofmyname]

Mexico LOVES smash

[@ldubs5884]

Hes the leader of the bunch!

[@tammid8423]

You know him well

[@Dave_Chrome]

He's finally back

[@ldubs5884]

Performing for you

[@tammid8423]

If you know the words

[@hiyaa_q]

You can join in too!

[@seanmakesthings]

LETS GO DK! That Aklo comeback was insane! More niche videos about the melee community!

[@StarkDoes]

Thank you so much!!! I couldn't agree more about DK and the aklo comeback

[@seanmakesthings]

@@StarkDoes If you ever need some funny monkey moments for your videos lmk, I got some clips :D

[@ThirtyfourEC]

That Mango vs Cody GOML 11 clip looks like TAS.

[@StarkDoes]

​@@LlnsteadTAS linked in the description ;)

[@ItsMeChair1]

I have no idea if this is sarcastic or if you guys legitimately don’t know there’s only been 10 GOMLs

[@Chronas264]

3 months later and we have one of the most craziest moments that debunk tierlists. junebugs donkeykong top three at supernova

[@momo_11o9]

let's go weed lesbian lmao

[@rosheafan]

let's go weed lesbian

[@Lvl31Gardevoir]

let's go weed lesbian lmao

[@Miyamoto_Jim]

Bro still wants girls but can’t get one so he becomes one kekw

[@arnoldj.samson5795]

@@Miyamoto_Jimsounds like most anime fans online having female pfps

[@Thierce]

@@Miyamoto_Jim transphobes gtfo

[@Base_Bass_Forte]

As long as Melee lives.... so will the terminator.... i'l be back. (JASON - M2K.)

[@isuckatnames6033]

I saw Aklo vs Wevans live It was the most hilarious set all day

[@teafollet5361]

I love Melee's Link so much! It's so hard not to root for him

[@mittsampson]

this was awesome i wholly enjoyed this

[@StarkDoes]

Thank you so much, that makes me so happy to hear!!!

[@bigtoblerone8446]

I love Aklo's and Savestate's Link! 💚💚

[@AndresGomez-rx6cj]

The year is 20XX now we have turbo Yoshi beating the top tier DK

[@susejtsirhc4202]

No one uses any of these low tiers so no one knows the match up if anyone gets good with them. That's the same reason why someone was able to get fang to work.

[@smoceany9478]

matchup knowledge is very important, for someone who plays G&W, they know every part of the G&W fox matchup very well, but for a fox, even a fox whos "learned the matchup", they dont know more than the G&W

[@GTSkillfulTurkey]

I love this channel and Stark

[@elibonham4388]

Damn that first clip was cold with Hbox was cold

[@leon9021]

Matchup experience > Character tier

[@bradyexe3238]

That thumbnail age wonderfully

[@StarkDoes]

My prophecies are a gift and a curse

[@pedrohdalla]

Aklo confirms to me that an young link can win a major

[@LargeMikel]

But he plays link, not young link.

[@pedrohdalla]

​@@LargeMikelThough he played both

[@LargeMikel]

@@pedrohdalla nope. He only plays fox and link.

[@ayrtonpavot3096]

Junebug is biology's strongest warrior

[@bucketfullabiscuits7865]

What do you mean by that?

[@rosieeeeeeeeeeeee]

@@bucketfullabiscuits7865i’m assuming generic transphobic garbage, not worth anyone’s time

[@lynk172]

DK

[@ayrtonpavot3096]

@@bucketfullabiscuits7865 check out his biggest wins

[@icenovice]

it's unbelievable how low pichu's up and down throws launch, even if it is fox being thrown

[@rarebeeph1783]

One thing to keep in mind: If your character has a 25-75 matchup, then (using standard Elo math, not sure what rating system is used in melee) you should expect an even fight if you're 200 elo points better than your opponent

[@StarkDoes]

I don't know what is being cooked here ‼️🍳

[@rarebeeph1783]

@@StarkDoes Basically saying that the skill difference between a top 10 player and a top 500 player very well might already be enough to consistently overcome a bad matchup

[@hardnewstakenharder]

Donkey Kong just beat Cody lol

[@takane3651]

3 months later and we had DK get 3rd at a major

[@frankimaserati1395]

What about that time leffen was getting bodied by that dk player till he switched to shiek

[@StarkDoes]

That was ringler at mainstage! I had it on my mind to include, but I was happier including some solid and more recent games against Zain!

[@HuskyBanana6]

Rocket mentioned :0

[@Techstrobe]

man showed the fake buffed pichu lol

[@StarkDoes]

I'm not sure if you're just making a joke about how good Codeman is or if you're serious LOL

[@markmenchu3724]

Eddy is my hero

[@robbiesrevelations3096]

These moments don't debunk anything. Melee tier lists are usually based on how many options a character can do in any situation, matchups, and results. It's not just one. It's all 3. Also, how exactly do we know that these moments weren't taken out of context? Now, does that mean that tier lists should be taken as law? No, but they still don't lose all merit

[@StarkDoes]

Very important to let you know that you're coming off as really weird in this comment. You've read too much into a title that acts as a segue to the real topic, and is clearly hyperbole And instead you've taken the mantle as a gatekeeper of tierlists, demanding context and criteria be followed as if your perspective is law I usually ignore responding at length but I think this could be a good learning experience so I'm sending it your way!

[@robbiesrevelations3096]

@@StarkDoes that's not gatekeeping in the slightest. It could be taking the title too seriously, but not gatekeeping

[@StarkDoes]

@robbiesrevelations3096 I'm just explaining how your comment makes you come off, it's not a negotiation or a debate :)! I promise that if you listened to the video, you'd understand the connection between content and title and you may not feel the need to grandstand on the topic of tierlists I appreciate sharing your thoughts dude!

[@robbiesrevelations3096]

@StarkDoes I mean I could have missed part of the beginning perhaps

[@kaichu9446]

Tbh I'm on Robbie's side, a lot of people don't know a thing about melee and might already think like it's fox only(or anything similar), it's just big click bait for people that don't know better.

[@burnerffx]

i got clickbaited lol

[@StarkDoes]

Happens to the best of us

[@DublinSeafoodInc]

good

[@alexanderespinoza]

Fuck yeah

[@KH-nova]

I love how the lowest level players are the most passionate about tier lists😂

[@StarkDoes]

Such examples including... Zain, hungrybox, and Leffen?

[@KH-nova]

@@StarkDoes lets be real who is actually more concerned with a tier list top or bottom level players

[@KH-nova]

@@StarkDoes sure they make videos when they lose and salty or when chat tries to force them to discuss it but its really not an important conversation

[@KH-nova]

And my comment wasnt a shot at you if thats what youre thinkin😂

[@StarkDoes]

@MRRAGERNIH I'm silver in ranked netplay, this hit too close to home 😤✊️

[@crinklybones]

MEWTWO IS TOP TIER RAAAAGH

[@radaf4429]

Why did there need to be such a long intro for what is essentially a gr smash video

[@StarkDoes]

You are no fun LOL

[@ewwitscullen9132]

Leffen is seriously the most insufferable smash player. Imagine putting Jigglypuff at the top of the list cause you lost ☠️☠️

[@Miyamoto_Jim]

Wow didn’t know _real_ girls played this game *at all!* till seeing some of these clips 😝 that’s so awesome *Edit, nvm there was like 1 (maybe) -BUT STILL! Better than 0

[@feelsokayman5656]

the commentary 10/10