Memphis turning down the Pac-12 is a MISTAKE | Gary Parrish Show

[@Kalesh444]

As a WSU fan, I knew travel wouldn’t be ideal but it felt like something special was being created. Sad it hasn’t worked out so far

[@clottadams5028]

I was hoping to start having a home and home with schools I actually knew, not Rice, UAB, and UNC Charlotte. I'm done.

[@GR-bn3xj]

I think most memphis fans wanted to be in the conference. The problem is, The pac can't expect memphis to join a conference for less money, esp a G6 conference. It's a shame. It's not going to work out right now, because it would be a great conference

[@edgarramos3015]

I think we were looking to build an East Coast Pod to help with travel.

[@waltercole5024]

​@BuffaloPros Money is the key if Memphis, Tulane, UTSA South Florida are going to take all their athletic sports teams men and women to Idaho,Oregon, Washington, California it better be a substantial amount of money over the coming years. Remember the G5 is only going to get 1 school out of 5 or 6 conferences. As fans we have dream Scenario about realignment ,but we have to remember these are institutions and businesses. Memphis would be stupid to leave the AAC to go PAC12 without a tv contract or revenue answers. I know the fans think Memphis deserves P4 status. But they are not going to get there in the New PAC12, they're be just another G5 school trying to get that 1 spot in the playoffs.

[@jamiethornton6101]

I think the problem was the exit fees. I'm not sure why they didn't tell Memphis/Tulane just come one year later in 2027, when they could leave for 10M. If the PAC is willing to pay 2.5M, that means Memphis would only have to pay 7.5 M. Memphis isn't getting in the Big 12 or ACC as it is now. If they got in the ACC, the top 10 schools will have left for other conferences. It would be worse than the new PAC.

[@aztecSD88]

Aztec fan here was looking forward to memphis joining the pac 12. Maybe down the road

[@mannym5883]

As an Oregon state fan, was really looking forward to matchups with the tigers and Tulane. It was a chance for all us programs to punch back together. It is a leap of faith for us pac 12 too, it’s always a risk. Best of luck to Memphis.

[@bullyear1973]

As a Memphis fan, I'm pissed that we didn't join the Pac!

[@russ.thebuss]

As a Boise State fan, I was really hoping to have Memphis in the league

[@Jbrown4439]

Agreed!!!

[@arcostonian]

Ditto ditto... would be great games

[@GR-bn3xj]

Same. But the money didn't work out. It would have been a very fun conference to be in. Maybe one day we can make it happen

[@ManeManStan]

If the Mountain West dissolves or the Pac-12 wins and keeps the MW exit fee money, suddenly the AAC 4 are more affordable. A tweet saying we're committed to the AAC means nothing.

[@jansonroberts2616]

@@BuffaloPros Agreed. There will be a treasure chest of exit fee money that the MW can use to rebuild just like the PAC is doing.

[@bobbyhernandez928]

Fresno State fan here. Was so disappointed that this deal did not work out. Kind of feel like ABC/ESPN had something to do with it. My son lives in your area and we would’ve had some great tailgating parties with y’all. Still hoping someday it’ll happen.

[@GR-bn3xj]

@@bobbyhernandez928 someone else pointed out the exit fees go down substantially after 2027, so maybe it can happen then

[@DayOneRob]

Couldn’t agree more, hopefully those 4 AAC schools will reconsider their decision and come back to the drawing board with the PAC.

[@kyleloney4191]

Honestly, if you look at the joint statement the AAC schools had, it was nearly word for word what the remaining Pac 12 members said after UCLA and SC bounced.

[@phays10]

So it means nothing.

[@DayOneRob]

@@phays10 it means the 4 AAC schools need to get out of the AAC for greener pastures.

[@phays10]

@@DayOneRob I don't understand what you mean.

[@marcpena266]

@@kyleloney4191I was just thinking that. You get the Pac12 with a firm media deal in hand and people will start flipping real quick.

[@davidethompson1271]

He's right. Memphis took the security blanket of the guaranteed $9mil and no exit fees. The new Pac12 has five teams in the Massey FB index top 60. The AAC has one. Memphis. The New PAC has 6 Teams in the Massey Basketball top 80. The AAC has one. Memphis.

[@CheapMobileGeek]

the PAC has no tv deal in place. The AACs is good thru 2032. The PAC does not have tv markets that will get them the kind of money they need to succeed in NIL either. That league is going to implode, or schools will be forced to drop down to FCS.

[@heetcrusher2880]

@@CheapMobileGeek Really think you need to look again. PAC-12 will sign a tv deal once we go enough teams. There are two marketing firms that deal with this for the entire country encore and navigate. These two companies set up all the tv deals and can show what the numbers will look like. Everything that has been reported 12-18 mil per team. If you don't believe what Navigate or Encore tell you well you are not a player at all.

[@waltercole5024]

@CheapMobileGeek True 👍 UNLV has turned down the PAC12, and now MWC is expanding by inviting Texas St, and soon to invite UTEP,NIU,Toledo ,maybe New Mexico St. They have a media deal and structure, I'm sure those CUSA schools will leave, and the MAC schools will probably join too. Memphis and the other AAC schools would be stupid to leave what they have for this fantasy of the PAC12. The only reason they restarted the league is because nobody wants Washington St or Oregon State they have to survive . They have no other options, but G5 schools start a G5 Super League, but it seems now that it has backfired on them

[@twinstalkitup]

Preach! Holding out on a prayer reflects what Memphis has been doing. Always the bridesmaid and never the bride.

[@ShaneStruthers-ur3cu]

As a Fresno state fan I was looking forward to being in the same conference as Memphis, but after this I have no respect for them. They would seriously rather play FAU and Charlotte than some of the better G5 programs like Fresno State and Boise State

[@JustAMan400]

As a Memphis Fan i was excited to see a really tuff football and basketball conference ,Pac12 would have been a good time. I know all those teams been watching sports for years. I dont know why they didn't take would have been exciting.

[@aztecforlife7360]

Also, as an Aztec alumnus and long time San Diego resident I get where you are coming from and you are absolutely correct. The decision Memphis made was small time. Seen a lot of that in San Diego and from SDSU over the years. Fortunately that has changed over the last decade. You can't sit back in a bad situation and wait for someone to fix it for you. Scared money don't make no money. Let's go!!!!!

[@BallCDO]

SMU betting on themselves and won

[@legoforbeginners6950]

This really sucks. Not only would it have given the PAC the needed number of schools, it would have added legitimacy and time zones. As a Coug, all the wind went out of my sales with the news. Praying on Gonzaga now.

[@CheapMobileGeek]

the PAC tried to get a bunch of strong teams together, with no tv deal. Memphis and other AAC schools get $8 million per year. Its the best tv deal in the G5. Memphis and other schools aren't going to give that up to jump into a situation with no guaranteed money.

[@mrwonderfulone]

@@CheapMobileGeek Yea it is a chicken and egg situation unfortunately but no risk no reward.

[@spencergreen8020]

Fresno fan I was excited to play Memphis. My hope is that the pac keeps your number and you can join later because I think we would still welcome you with open arms

[@rockerfarm6445]

Gotta say I'm a Bit disappointed AS a Wazzu fan, but I also like Utah State, our previous pickup from Utah turned out quite nice

[@tilu3303]

I love your point about the on-campus football stadium. Oregon State and WAZZU have been consistently upgrading their on-campus facilities for decades and that's one of the ways they attract student-athletes who likely would not be attracted there otherwise. Power conference level facilities end up paying for themselves by what they attract.

[@dgart7434]

The door was only closed on 2026 due to the high exit fees. 2027 or 2028 are still on the table IF the PAC can get to 8 and present a good TV deal.

[@simonhitt5791]

The PAC has to be at 8 before the 2026 season starts, another invitation may not come. Bit of a gamble either way, hold out hope that the ACC comes calling and stay in your security blanket, or take the leap into a new conference that top to bottom is deeper and stronger than where you are and potentially lessen your chances to run the table but be fairly well assured of that CFP spot if you win the league. I'm a BSU fan and I was hoping you guys would join, oh well.

[@clottadams5028]

As a Memphis fan (former) just tear the Liberty Bowl down and quit football. Be done with it. We obviously don't have people in the places that direct things that care. I'm never going to another football game again. We really blew it this time. I hate this program. Nothing but heartache.

[@tiptoe38]

It’s bad but not that bad.Tulane and USF was on board with this decision.

[@kenrickcam]

Memphis is the only team that had a shot of winning pac12, usf would be competing for top half, Tulane would be trying to stay off the bottom.

[@shotwelj]

All of my life I've been a Memphis Tigers fan(over 4 decades). This decision has sucked the fandom out of me! I've tried for decades to view the positives about the university and the city, in general. But after being overlooked time and time again--this city, when the ball's in its court/destiny's in its own hand, will make the wrong decision. This city hosted 2 Mike Tyson fights and a Roy Jones Jr fight in a 3 year window and didn't capitalize(Zero major fights in 20 years since); Olympics considered Memphis as a host city and asked for a bid(Mayor at the time refused to offer bid); losing out on Major companies relocation(into/out of the city); never acquiring gambling/casinos(I know that's a state thing but the city never really tried to get that changed); etc. The university missing out on realignment for over 30 years(SEC, Big East, Big 12, ACC) after it was part of the first conference(Metro) to propose a superconference. Now after gaining ownership of the Liberty Bowl Stadium and pouring millions into a renovation, they turned down an opportunity to join a conference of universities with the same goal. A hot girl/guy asks you out and you reply, "No thanks! I'm waiting on that group of hotter girls/guys to say yes to my repeated asking for a date." Geez!

[@JasonE1972]

If I were a P4, I’d never add these schools now. If they can’t bet on themselves now, how would I expect them to further build themselves in my league.

[@aztecforlife7360]

unfortunately, I think you may have a point. Naw, they'll forget about this five years from now won't they?

[@richardreed6249]

As a West Coast fan, I've never had a chance to watch your channel. Damn, I wish I had somebody like you over here calling out our universities for stupid decisions

[@t-fuelernienotoriousmisfit7449]

LETS GO AZTECS !!! Agree with pretty much everything you had to say.🚀💯💫 It would have been a super interesting league with you guys also in it, but maybe in the future.

[@CatsClaw44]

The AAC's exit fee is a carryover from the old Big East when it was a power conference (BCS).

[@ethanrobinson3288]

Did Houston/cincy/ucf pay it?

[@MattBuild4]

When Miami and West Virginia left the Big East ceased being a legitimate power conference. They were a joke compared to the MWC....

[@mrwonderfulone]

@@ethanrobinson3288 There is still the article online where teh negotiated 17-18mil each.

[@Sam2sham]

​@@ethanrobinson3288yes

[@phays10]

I was shocked. WSU fan here. I was looking forward to you guys being over here. Fucking sucks. Wanted you guys to come on over. Maybe it cam be worked out later. Who knows. Damn shame.

[@kevinsullivan3824]

Region doesn't matter anymore. Simply better sports in the pac12. Memphis duh

[@charleswebsterjr.6350]

It does if your not getting power 4 money, anything less than 25 million to even 20 million is not worth it.

[@kevinsullivan3824]

They not getting it now lil money they will lose our in the long run

[@tremoore9831]

​@@charleswebsterjr.6350100% correct. Most just feel rejected and are lasing out emotionally. They want Memphis to get G5 money while having P4 travel expenses for ALL sports.

[@offtilt]

@@charleswebsterjr.6350 that's what i've been saying. the pac couldn't get a tv deal with the pacific northwest teams and the la schools still in the conference. yeah join the pac and have fun watching memphis kick off on dog shit production on apple tv at 11:30pm

[@xfacta334]

@@offtilt the Pac couldn't get a TV deal then because they wanted B1G/SEC money. This Pac isn't looking for that, they're looking to grab the right members to secure something between G5 money & ACC money....which isn't hard to achieve.

[@Michael-od8cb]

What a great show!

[@kick-face3558]

As a Houston fan I feel bad for Memphis …

[@clottadams5028]

Oh, I'm sure. Nice way to rub it in, Coug.

[@derekwarr8567]

Yeah, I bet you do

[@htvlogs80]

Once the PAC12 gets a 15M media deal, Memphis will regret it. Memphis is banking on FSU and Clemson leaving so they can get the ACC invite.

[@OneManArmy1Dm]

Fresno st fan here ☹️ I really wanted to play Memphis.. we could have build something especial….

[@dennistan7769]

As an alum of the U of M, I'm officially uncommitted to the University. Putting my money and focus on pro sports now.

[@gregvogel9859]

The other thing I think Memphis is missing out on too holding out for the ACC or Big 12 invite is that every school in the PAC 12 is in the same situation. They’re all auditioning for the next round of invites and is the AAC or the PAC 12 the best place to audition? What if the Big 12 adds 2 from the pac 12 and the ACC adds 2. And Memphis gets passed again. When the PAC 12 comes back in 5 years to invite Memphis it won’t be as strong and the Merry go round may have stopped for even longer.

[@GR-bn3xj]

The problem is we would owe a buy out to the AAC and then a buy out to the PAC of we got an invite. I think the leaders think why have 2 buyouts when it's not a significant upgrade. Only time will tell of this was a smart decision or not

[@SurfCityBill]

Boise State fan disappointed Memphis will not be joining the Pac.

[@Josh1888USU]

Come on Memphis! We all want you over here. It would be one badass basketball conference!

[@paulcleary8692]

Boise State fan here who lives in the South and went to the BSU v Memphis game last year. Memphis fans were great to us and the city was a great place to go for the weekend. Lot's to see and do. REALLY wanted y'all to join. BTW, we deserved to lose that game. Boy did we make some stupid mistakes. We got our ship righted later last season though

[@tilu3303]

Any conference with a footprint on both sides of the country is going to get a superior media rights deal. I hope as the new PAC builds out it will be able to get some eastern block teams to see the futuristic vision they're aiming for.

[@joeguerra8435]

This is so hard to stomach. Memphis. You truly deserved better than to be permanently relegated to AAC dominance, but, not afforded a platform in a rebuilding nationwide football conference.

[@derekwarr8567]

We don't even dominate the AAC

[@loon1994]

If the pac-12 essentially locks the 5th playoff spot without hiccups, then they are on par with the ACC and big 12 in so far as only 1 playoff spot per conference. Which at that point, we either accept that the pac-12 is a power conference, or we can stop pretending the ACC or Big 12 are still power conferences

[@mathewblood5113]

It was just announced that the PAC 12 is suing the Mountain West Conference to get out of or reduce the ‘poaching penalty’ fees. Part of the reason why those 4 AAC schools declined the PAC 12 was because of that $25 million dollar exit fee. I suspect if the PAC 12 wins their suit, they’ll go back to Memphis, UTSA, and Tulane to make a better offer.

[@vladdkristmanov3057]

Boise State fan here. I live in Indiana. I would gladly drive 9 hrs (I've driven farther) to watch a game in Memphis. Hopefully Memphis will reconsider because the future is brighter in the PAC.

[@aztecforlife7360]

Aztec fan here to say I was looking forward to having Memphis in the PAC. Dissappointed in their decision. Maybe they'll reconsider down the line?

[@CWashburn80]

Boise State fan here. Bummed about Memphis, but lets not act like this new pac with Memphis and tulane wouldnt be a stronger conference than the ACC in a lot of years. The ACC every year seems to have 1.5 good teams. Wouldve been a badass conference if you guys joined

[@HawaiianBro808]

The worst thing that could've happened is that you're getting sued for $100 million because of the incompetence of PAC-12.

[@rdtechusa]

As an Aztec fan, I have to say you all are incredible! While the Pac-12 may no longer be a power conference, it will undoubtedly be the best among those outside the top four. No doubt about it!

[@MemphisTigersOnRivals]

I agree with you Gary.

[@canderia]

If they don't get into the ACC in the next 5 years this is disgusting. If they do they'll be considered geniuses

[@xfacta334]

The ACC won't be around long enough for anybody else to join it.

[@derekwarr8567]

Prepare to be disgusted

[@jonm4501]

The dollars just don't add up to make this move now. Maybe down the road. ALSO, IMO playing half your games in the Pacific Time Zone is devaluing in and of itself.

[@stephenbird5472]

The only conclusion I can come to is that the leadership at Memphis did not believe that they could compete in the Pacific Division. The combination of travel and higher level competition could have been too much for them.

[@jwigginson]

RC Johnson would be proud 🎉

[@derekwarr8567]

By Golly, we did it!

[@maccleezy801]

Memphis slept on the CBB part. UNLV, Gonzaga, USU, SDSU all consistent tournament teams the last few years. Memphis hurt themselves imo even in football Boise St vs Memphis? OSU, Wazzu? Would have been pretty nice to see.

[@j.thompson9345]

I agree with you guys. If Memphis had did something about these issues early on, maybe they would already be in the ACC or Big 12. 🤷‍♂️

[@DustinTJ1]

Memphis might come back after the PAC gets a media deal. Don’t count them out and the rest of the AAC schools yet

[@PDXRAIN24]

Beavs fan here, thought Memphis should of took the risk. Would of benefited all parties in the long run. Sad day. Keep pressuring your school!

[@bradparnell614]

I'm old enough to remember Memphis State and Cincinnati leaving the metro to form the Great Midwest Conference. That broke up the great rivalries both schools had with Louisville. I remember Cincy and Memphis fans acting like they were moving up past Louisville. Then we all got back together when we formed C-USA. Then Cincy and UofL moved on to the Big East leaving Memphis behind. After the Big East split we all got back one more time in this new AAC thing. Fortunately for UofL it was just a one year stay before moving to the ACC which we've been in now for a decade. Looks like Cincy has moved on to the Big 12. I don't even know who else besides Memphis who is in the AAC now. Ultimately I'd trade Cal, Stanford, and SMU, who are in their first year in the ACC, for Cincy, West Virginia, and Memphis, but old rivalries and geography just don't seem to mean anything anymore.

[@willemcenter8649]

I feel like maybe ranked teams isn’t the relevant thing so much as overall money. Behind fees and travel it cuts down from hypothetical tv deals and they didn’t see enough to make the jump. Memphis is in just as good of a spot to make the playoff as they would in the pac-12 and likely has the money working out better

[@jansonroberts2616]

It’s definitely not worth it to take a leap of faith for a media deal that may only pay 3 million more per year for these East coast schools to go out west to play sports. The travel expenses are estimated at between 3.5 to 6 million per year. That wouldn’t be a leap of faith. It would be negligence from those east coast University presidents. This podcast seems to be more of a hate podcast against the AAC than a realistic discussion or informative podcast.

[@kendonshirley6697]

The PAC would've been so much better with Memphis. I was looking forward to that. I hope we can get you guys in the future with an appropriately attractive deal to make it worth your while.

[@johnnymason2460]

This is why I think that the University of Memphis has no idea what it is doing. They obviously don't care about winning championships or pleasing the fans. The Power conferences and the Group of 5 conferences need to separate immediately.

[@wi54725]

Definitely, Oregon State and Washington State plus the MWC teams that have agreed to join do not make the Pac-7 a major conference. It doesn't make the Pac-7 enough better than the AAC as a Group of 5 league much longer road trips for Memphis. The media package is going to be limited. But, there is a potentially better option. A new Metro Conference needs to return with both football and basketball. Go with large cities with media revenue potential. Memphis, Tulane, Rice, UTSA, Tulsa, UAB, South Florida, and Florida Atlantic would be a better 8-team league than the AAC overall and not too far behind the Pac-7, with the media potential to get a nice contract and potentially pass the Pac-7. You could add some non-football playing members like Marquette, Creighton, Xavier, and Saint Louis, and add four more large metro areas.

[@bradymoon1889]

My dream scenario was 1. Oregon St 2. Washington St 3. Boise St 4. San Diego St 5. Fresno St 6. Colorado St 7. Utah St 8. UNLV 9. New Mexico 10. Memphis Basketball Only 11. Gonzaga 12. Saint Maries

[@bullyear1973]

Saint Mary's

[@12knight1]

Just because they said no now doesn’t mean anything. All the original pac12 teams said that and look at where we are now.

[@ThaDLoShow901]

We’re going to have a newly renovated stadium for rice & Charlotte. I was disappointed in this decision because I’m convinced we’ll never get into another conference. Yes it was a lateral move but it was a beneficial lateral move. But the pac12 would’ve been a better conference. That 2.5 could’ve came up to 10 and that would’ve been more appealing to make the jump. This conference is on its last leg because there is nobody else to add that adds value to this conference. They definitely killed a lot of my confidence in the school. Then on top of that losing to navy killed your season and now you have to win every game and hope another school falls off. If not we’ll have 10 wins playing in the Birmingham bowl.

[@Kong-kg6ij]

They didn't offer to pay the buyout, USF, and Tulane didn't take it either. You might as well have said the MW is the best league because that's what the Pac12 is now.

[@runningriot6399]

I’m not a Memphis fan. Just an ex pac 12 guy here but I would say the only argument for staying put is Memphis is for sure one of the next group of 5 teams to get a power 4 invite imo so maybe it doesn’t make sense to pay 25 million in exit fees if you’re gonna have to do that in a few years anyways to get to a power conference?

[@chrisbravo8579]

Do you know how long they have been waiting for that invite?

[@runningriot6399]

@@chrisbravo8579 yeah I’m sure but there were a bunch of no power schools ahead of them. The pickings are getting slimmer.

[@bullyear1973]

They have been waiting for over 100 yrs and will have to wait another 100 yrs!

[@RandomIdeas-24.7]

What about the "no" is a way to work down the buy out? I thought I heard the pac12 had another grace year before having go get to 8.

[@killuhcam27]

Yes it is disapointing, it's a lose lose for both Memphis and the new PAC 12 since as of now they are just MW 2.0. I'm still holding on to hope that the PAC 12 gets to 8 with UNLV, gets a TV deal with an expansion clause like the Big 12 has, and adds Memphis with some combination of Tulane, UTSA or USF

[@heetcrusher2880]

Maybe once the dust has settled with this fight over poach fees PAC-12 will take another look and help more than 10% to make this happen. Because league with SDU, Gonzaga, USU and Memphis top tier conference for basketball.

[@borisyan386]

In ten years , the new teams that entered 22:42 the new PAC1-2 will be better than any existent teams from AAC. I am a fans from PAC12 and I felt for Memphis and Tulane's fans.

[@cfb1923]

Memphis did the right thing because it would have made as much sense as calford joining the ACC. You know the whole student-athlete thing?

[@bluebobbyking]

It is COMPLETELY moronic to turn this opportunity down. I imagine it will look even dumber as the days and weeks go by.

[@ArchAngeLs777Gaming]

This doesn’t mean never though right? Maybe they wait out the current media deal. By the time it expires in 2031-2032, everything with the ACC, etc will have played out. The PAc12 will have been in existence a few years too

[@WinstonCSU]

If Colorado State can figure out how to build an on-campus stadium, Memphis should be able to! There was little space on campus, but they made it happen. Enjoy the AAC, Memphis! Go Rans!

[@RandyHarder-w3g]

A stupid and short-sighted move by MEM. We never have a university president that cares about sports. Now we have to question why this AD was hired, it wasn't for his common sense. If I had to guess he has big bonus for getting MEM in power five and was not willing to give up on a payday. I am also sure it was to protect Penny from real competition. No matter, the fans should boycott the games until he is fired or promoted out. The PAC however pull a crap move by only offering MEM 2.5 million on the buyout, so they share some of the blame.

[@scooberz2015]

Ya i agree, strongly. There are plenty of reasons to NOT join PAC12. Nobody can deny that. However, its this simple. By joining the PAC, your consolodsting the best of the G5 into one conference. Does this make you a "power conference"? Technically i dont know, but your ESSENTIALLY becoming the 5th power conference due to the CFB format. I lot of folks would call joining the PAC a short sighted desperation move. Its not. This decision is short - sighted. I cant get over peoples lack of vision. This isnt the old PAC. We know geogrpahy is silly in CFB. We know that its the ACC or Big XII in a perfect world. But you have the oppurtunity to essentially force your way into being the fifth power conference. WHAT WE COULD HAVE HAD •Boise St •Colorado St •Fresno St •Memphis •Oregon St •San Diego St •South Florida •Tulane •UNLV •Utah St •UTSA •Washington St Power or whatever, that league is getting the G5 playoff spot 9 / 10 years. Thats HUGE. ALSO COULD BE CONSIDERED IF GOING BEYOND 12 •Texas St (Texas state school) •North Texas (Texas!) •Temple (Philly) •East Carolina (One of thr best G5 fanbases and the Carolina market) •UConn (Brand) •Wyoming (Zero TV market, very solid fanbase and following) No Air Force. Mad respect for that program, but Service Academies have a low ceiling that continues to fall. Damn shame. Im assuming the doors 95% closed by i still have my fingers crossed.

[@JasonE1972]

The P2 doesn’t even want the 3rd and 4th, much less add another. But they made a mistake. Beating the PAC teams would make you much more of a P4 candidate than beating Charlotte, FAU, etc.

[@richardbarry4663]

I think that Memphis, UTSA, Tulane and USF made the right decision not to come to the PAC12. While disappointing, I don't blame them and think they made a common sense decision. A $27 million buy out, travel across country, and an uncertain media contract does not sound ideal to me. Sounds like the heads of those schools have a lot more common sense and cares more for their student athletes than some of the Traitor 10 leadership.

[@EricBurns-d4o]

How? The AAC have the best group of 5 tv deal and the pac doesn’t have a tv deal and I seriously doubt if they can get a billion dollar tv contract

[@supermariotravels7225]

Memphis can’t get right no big 12 or acc lol I hope it don’t bite them in the butt in the long run..

[@MrJara1018]

Perhaps the exit fee from the American was too steep

[@yellowmartian]

I wish the big 12 added memphis for all sports, dropped Houston football but kept their other sports, and added gonzaga for all sports they have.

[@georgestepanoff8213]

Fresno State fan here. Memphis, do you believe in second chances? Lol no loyalty in college sports these days. Upgrade when you can!

[@tremoore9831]

The Pac12 will ALWAYS take Memphis. Memphis is in the position of power. They need to see what the fallout of the ACC will be before they make any drastic decisions. It makes no sense to commit to an unknown G5 outcome when the potential of an ACC invite is possible. I think the other teams are mad because that's not a potential option for them. I'm sure those Westcoast schools don't care about Memphis & USF's travel cost of their 19 different intercollegiate sports. That'll be their problem to deal with huh? They should just be happy to be associated with the new Pac12... right?

[@xfacta334]

The ACC window has closed. They should've pushed for that last summer like SMU did. Take the Pac invite or get left behind are the only options now.

[@tremoore9831]

@@xfacta334 I haven't heard of any deal between Clemson, FSU, & the ACC. Just a desperate party leaking information. And when they leave, either within the next 2 years or around 2030 (6 years) the ACC will need to replace them.

[@offtilt]

idk, the way i look at it is that the pac couldn't get a tv deal with oregon, washington, and the la schools still in the conference so why do we believe that it's such a good move(competition is absolutely better no doubt). you can talk all you wwant about how it's a better conference for competition, and it is. i just can't help but feel like in 5-10 years everyone in the new pac are looking to jump ship cause the money isn't there. the pac revival to me just feels like nothing more than a facade of "see we're still around." at the end of the day money rules, and maybe they do get a good deal, but right now financially staying where you have guaranteed money coming in. just feels like this whole realignment thing has got to come to a head soon, and by that i mean schools are going to realize they messed up and can't afford to send their water polo team from la to new jersey, or san diego to memphis and vice versa. realignment is going to squeeze the olympic sports dry.

[@offtilt]

also hot take. we let navy's qb run for 5 billion yards against us we are exactly where we are supposed to be.

[@aaronbrown9156]

They did have a deal for 30 million per year until one of the presidents convinced the other presidents that they were worth 50million each

[@MattBuild4]

The deal that Oregon, Washington, USC and UCLA turned down was for $25 million guaranteed a year, bro thats 3X PLUS what you make a year (in the old AAC deal)....... How delusional do you have to be to act like thats what Memphis is worth now? I cannot wait to see how youre gonna try to justify that AAC members are still worth $9M a year with what that conference has today. Maybe Memphis alone and maybe thats the play and just pray the ACC doesnt completely implode once 2030 comes around.

[@SteinSays]

This tripe does not warrant a response. 😂 How about doing a little homework, before you pop off...good Lord.😅

[@SteinSays]

​@@offtiltExactly, Memphis can toil in that podunk league...right where they believe they belong (apparently).

[@mikefredd3390]

Sounds like a bad deal for everybody.

[@mikeygoda]

The appeal of the new PAC is vastly overstated in this video... just relax. Memphis should try scheduling better OOC games. They’ll be fine.

[@Mozenator]

Did Memphis get some sweetheart deal to stick around? If they're only getting an equal share of media $$$... Why stay? What's the motivation?

[@gijakob]

The money must've not been right. The PAC-12 might not be able to offer the money that the American currently pays Memphis.

[@darrenanderson5551]

The Pac12 needs to add 4 more teams...UNLV, MEMPHIS, TULANE & USF, This would be a solid Conference for now, and then we could hope the ACC FALLS apart, If ACC falls apart the leftover schools may want to merge with the Pac 12 thats how you most likely get Stanford & Cal back in the new Pac12 to stay. The left over schools, BC, Syracuse, Pitt, VT, NC State, Wake Forest, GT, SMU. You would need to rename conferences to a all inclusive name, that has nothing to do with Pac12 or ACC. WEST Division SDSU BSU FSU CSU OSU WSU STAN CAL SMU UNLV EAST Division BC SYRACUSE PITT NC State GT Wake Forest VT, Add these 3 from AAC MEMPHIS TULANE USF THE CONFERENCE now has name recognition, and now can possibly become a Power 4 Conference! Need to start talking about this possibility!

[@tremoore9831]

By these comments, I can't tell most people don't handle rejection well.

[@JasonE1972]

Plus, you’re relegated to ESPN+. Further, the other previous AAC defectors are paying their $17MM over like 10 years. Was SOO bummed when they didn’t join. The P4 will not forget that they were 4th at best before the others left. You may be #1 now but it would be better being #1 over Boise and SDSU. 🙄

[@George-Kliavkoff4Big12]

Memphis, please come to the Big 12.

[@nicholasjohnson3278]

Memphis being 32 is insane lmao

[@We-need-Abe]

Still hoping for Big 12 invite to balance east teams

[@frictionhitch]

The PAC has only a 5 year grant of rights! It is meant to be a 5 year showcase for the P4. Memphis will join by Friday.

[@DocSkirv]

We still want Memphis in the PAC. Get over here!

[@frictionhitch]

The PAc will pay more for Memphis this week and then offer USF and Tulane nothing. They will have to pay their own way.

[@frankpitman3431]

Sacramento State wants to get into the PAC-12 bad and raised $35 million in two days thanks to Alumni and other donors. They want to raise $50+ million for a new stadium and NIL.

[@frankpitman3431]

By the way Sacramento State is not even an FBS school, it’s FCS and they still raised that money in two days.

[@brlybseballplayer34]

Im pretty sure these schools in the AAC will go down as the worst decision in sports you watch

[@davidwiedeman2152]

Just like playing poker…. You can lose all your chips anteing yourself out of the game or you can throw your chips in and start playing poker. You don’t win if you don’t play.

[@crobinson41121]

The deal they were offered was low cause pax 12 is broke

[@David-ck3zm]

Memphis is making the mistake Boise made when they returned to the MW instead of Joining the AAC. Boise is still a good program but not as good as they were before that decision.

[@MattBuild4]

To be fair that wasnt the deal Boise State made. Boise State rejected the Big East contract out of fears that the Big East would collapse and invalidate their contract, which is pretty much what ended up happing to the Big East. Hindsight being 20-20 they should have gone with it because the Big East remnant became the AAC and they negotiated for a better deal than the MWC had, but 2012-2014 Big East/AAC were very scary times....