That was nerve-wracking!! Balancing been very near crashing and stalling at the same time!! I was on the edge of my seat!
@IMGuapo-dg1hu5 жыл бұрын
Adrian Padilla Vega Gripping it without hands until safe. lol
@mikebelanger41655 жыл бұрын
@BBB H I've had the privilege of 'flying' an ERJ (Embraer 145LR) full-motion simulator in Houston, TX. (I'm only a Student Pilot, never got my pilot's certificate, by the way, but enjoy using the home sims). They're so realistic, you don't really know you're NOT in a real aircraft!
@-DC-5 жыл бұрын
Awesome content everytime 👊
@milesaharrison5 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how much better the A320 is in this sort of scenario. You can pull full back sidestick and not worry about hitting the stall every 3 seconds. Full back will mean maximum climb performance without thinking about it although I'm sure it's more fun to do on the 737 (in the sim!)
@julianbrelsford5 жыл бұрын
I'm just curious, do pilots hear the landing gear extending and retracting in flight? If so, is the sound reproduced for you in the simulator? I know as a passenger on commercial flights (mostly some type of 737, if I recall correctly) I've often been able to hear when the gear are going up / down.
@ZygalStudios2 жыл бұрын
Man that "terrain terrain PULL UP!" warning is terrifying. It's unbelievable how fast that can happen.
@1stDefender6 ай бұрын
Even i i am not an aviator the 'pull up, pull up' gives me gossebumps everytime. it's scary!
@bbwarwick5 жыл бұрын
I’m not a pilot... Why am I addicted to these videos?!
@ApprendreLangues3 жыл бұрын
Same here... no interest in ever being a pilot, but I love Mentour's channel!
@paulasinclair62893 жыл бұрын
I"m no pilot either, never will be, but I love watching these videos!
@mateope103 жыл бұрын
no pilot either, actually afraid of flying, but I do love flying around in simulators, maybe that's why I love mentour's videos
@josephherron76713 жыл бұрын
Me neither. But I have flown before with a friend who has his CFI. One day I'll have my license.
@TheYacu3 жыл бұрын
Same... I haven't even been on a plane for 10 years. But those videos are so fascinating.
@joesterling42995 жыл бұрын
The hills are alive, with the sound of TERRAIN! PULL, UP!
@gorillaau5 жыл бұрын
Caution yodelling... Caution yodelling.
@georgemartin14365 жыл бұрын
LOL!
@jomac8414 жыл бұрын
Joe Sterling oh sweet Jesus lol
@PuFu_Channel4 жыл бұрын
what is that two turning "wheels" on the thrust console??) with white marks)
@georgemartin14364 жыл бұрын
@@PuFu_Channel Trim control. They move the elevator assembly up and down to reduce the pilot's physical burden...basically makes the plane easier to fly...
@donaldcarpenter53283 жыл бұрын
The pilot monitoring's voice pitch went UP and he KNEW he was in a simulator. That's REALISTIC!!!
@john2000l2 жыл бұрын
You did something in the simulator that I truly appreciated. You allowed the simulator to create every condition, and you reacted as though it was a real event. You could tell from the inflection in your voice, and how you were handling the controls. If every pilot treated the simulator as a near life experience, then you have a chance to save yourself, the plane, and your passengers. Extremely well done for you and your co-pilot. You folks both handled the CRM with real professionalism.
@jillcrowe26262 жыл бұрын
I think that may be why fighter pilots made great commercial pilots. Their lives regularly depended on flying while evading other aircraft that were shooting at them.
@raptor747-811 ай бұрын
Every sim session is a near death experience. They are very stressful, full on and your job is on the line. Fail a check twice and you could lose your job. It’s by no way a box ticking exercise. I have known pilots who have suffered severe anxiety getting into a sim, including sweaty palms, tightness of breath and even vomiting. That’s why we call it the torture chamber.
@stefanmodigh78974 жыл бұрын
What you don't want your co-pilot to say: Oh, that's a funny looking cloud with a ski lift on it...
@awayfarer68133 жыл бұрын
Lol! Underrated comment!
@xenowerks70203 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!
@ddichny3 жыл бұрын
There's a Gary Larson "Far Side" cartoon that shows the inside of a cockpit, and one pilot says to the other, "What's a mountain goat doing way up here in a cloud bank?"
@toniownez3 жыл бұрын
Frankie Boyle
@wesleyhurd35743 жыл бұрын
I think that in real life what the first officer said would be terrifying in poor visibility conditions. "That's not the runway, that's a highway." Especially when it is followed by the GPWS terrain warning.
@GoCoyote3 жыл бұрын
I know this is a simulation, but this had me on the edge of my seat. I can see how important it is to respond IMMEDIATELY to the terrain warning. Whew! Hope my heart rate slows down soon.
@MrVenona2 жыл бұрын
More exciting than the last Star Wars movie! And much more entertaining. 😀
@RogerAlan2 жыл бұрын
This is, by a huge margin, my favorite aviation video of all time. Not only are we reminded of proper procedures (per this airline), we are shown the best possible version of crew resource management. I hope that no ATP pilot had anything to learn that they didn’t already understand but for the rest of us we can rest easy knowing the skills and rehearsals that go into each and every flight we board are designed to get us home safely. Kudos, Petar.
@nik0tine5 жыл бұрын
You and Kelsey's videos have inspired me to seriously consider piloting. 30 and had never even thought about it before other than just being a fan of flying and planes in general.
@simonboucher71522 жыл бұрын
My father, a CAE Airplane simulator engineer, worked specifically on a weird issue with GPWS on Swissair flight coming in on Zurich airport. What happened was that when coming into the airport, the 3 sensor on the airplane, while on final approach and crossing the top of the mountain, they disagree and disconnected the autopilot. It was such a recurring issue and it wasn't reproduce in the simulator, so when he was flighing to Zurich for something else, the pilot recognize his name and asked him to fly in to jumpseat to witness the issue.
@pedrops49102 жыл бұрын
Which kind of aircraft ? . Is this still happening? Do you remember which runway it was?
@simonboucher71522 жыл бұрын
@@pedrops4910 Boeing 747-400 I would suppose (it was my father main aircraft) it still does from what I know. But no I don't know which approach/ runway. But it was during the descent.
@lorrewatkins59253 жыл бұрын
I can totally relate to that, one time when I was scuba-diving manny years ago, Me and a friend was diving in the baltic sea at a depth of 29 meeters, and it was pretty dark at those depth's especially in the baltic sea, Unbeknownst to us we were starting to drift, because of a small stream current. However We were absolutely sure that We knew exactly where we was. We were totally wrong ! We had lost our situational awareness that almost cost us our lives ! Looking back on that horrible incident became clear that our brain totally fooled Us in an extremely scary way ! And that goas back to what you said Mentour, about loosing situational awareness, regardles whether one scuba-dives, or flying, the brain acts the same way !
@houseofhobbies96953 жыл бұрын
I’m also a diver. I’ve had this happen to me in a hole. Scared the shit outta me. I had to trust my computer for depth and look at my bubbles to tell which way was up. It was terrifying.
@KarlHamilton2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear you're ok
@sailaab2 жыл бұрын
Lorre thst indeed is as scary and even more dangerous than whst we can imagine. Wondering how your friend and you got out of the situstion safely. May be you and her/him can make a podcast on that
@lorrewatkins59252 жыл бұрын
@@sailaab Yea thats a good idea, I'll have to think about it !
@martinschwaikert54332 жыл бұрын
And there's the confirmation bias. You do not look for things that break your expectations, but only that approves them.
@juliestevens69314 жыл бұрын
That was one of the more exciting/hair-raising videos I have seen. Even knowing it was a simulation, listening to the warnings was nerve-wracking! I can see why you would have to have those maneuvers memorized.
@theoverall-w5j19 күн бұрын
Best video on the channel!! It’s legitimising every single word spoken by You every since the channel has started. I hope many of the viewers notice that you allow the simulator to challenge you. What a goddamn mastery
@johnbailey50115 жыл бұрын
I'm an A&P for one of the big US carriers. I'm in the middle of a 737NG GenFam class. We just talked about this very topic the other day. Super cool to see it from your perspective. We test all that stuff every night (ground prox, stall warning, ect) but now I see what they do first hand. Thanks for the great videos. BTW the right main gear down lock light has a lamp out on the right side. It's the kind of thing a tech notices. :)
@jerseyshoredroneservices2252 жыл бұрын
Hoody eye!
@KCLIBURN-mj9qx8 ай бұрын
Sharp eye, guy!
@frogstamper5 жыл бұрын
Bloody hell that looks stressful, a foggy day you know there is a mountain range out there and then the computer starts calling out "pull up...pull up"....
@BetterCallGatto4 жыл бұрын
search Cat3 landings
@normvargas13143 жыл бұрын
That would be EVA 15 Heavy out of LAX. Pilots were flying below height of mountains going 400 mph and only pulled up in the last few seconds. They were about 3 seconds from crashing into the very tall transmission towers. I still have not seen anyone do a simulation of this incident.
@LemonChieff3 жыл бұрын
Stressful? Lord. I'm just glad I used the lavatory earlier. I nearly shat myself watching.
@BLACKMONGOOSE135 жыл бұрын
That was intense. Watching pros work is inspiring. Thanks Mentour. I love your passion.
@MentourPilot5 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Feel free to help me spread the video to others
@oluwabusayooyegunwa57642 жыл бұрын
@@MentourPilot Hi, I am curious about something, is it not possible to make a rudder turn away from the problematic portion of the terrain? Is it a must pilots continue their current flight path that leads them into the terrain?
@boudewijnj.m.kegels51982 жыл бұрын
@@oluwabusayooyegunwa5764 I also wonder why climbing is preferred to turning away from the mountain. With climbing you loose speed and risk stalling, with turning not so much, i guess.
@CristalianaIvor2 жыл бұрын
@@boudewijnj.m.kegels5198 @oluwabusayooyegunwa5764 people in the comments anwsered this already: 1. in such a situation you will be startled, so it's important to have an automatic reflex trained that is very easy. and going up is easy and safe 2. you could be turning into terrain, also your one wing lowers when you turn - which might hit terrain 3. turning actually looses you tons of speed and causes you to have to lower the nose (at least a bit) which is not what you want when you try to escape a mountain 4. also those things are huge, their turning radius is biiiiiig if you want the good indepth explanation scroll up :D
@deanfowlkes5 жыл бұрын
For all those asking why not turn away from the rising terrain, that should have been done before it became an emergency. Humans have a startle response whether we like it or not. It is sort of like a deer in the head lights. You will lose precious seconds at the beginning of the alarm recognizing there is a problem, evaluating what bad is going to happen, choosing what to do and where to go, and doing it. The only way to combat this is to train into each pilot an automatic reflex. An example of this is if you hear the stall warning, you automatically push the yoke and the throttle forward and equalize the ailerons. Once you are not stalling, level the wings and gain altitude. Pulling up at the best climb performance is the best reflex to train in this scenario. Banking sharply in a steep turn during an emergency would cause the nose of the aircraft to dip down below the horizon into a dive. Pulling back on the yoke during the bank would cause the aircraft to stall. Banking the aircraft during a stall would cause the aircraft to yaw and spin. The result would be a spiraling dive into the ground even if you avoided the mountain or high terrain. Plus, even in VMC, the field of view out of an airliners cockpit is not the best. It is not like a Cessna 172. The only safe direction to go is up.
@cristiana97134 жыл бұрын
Thanks for clearing this up.
@emergencylowmaneuvering73504 жыл бұрын
Nope.. Pulling up is exaggerated in a real emergency. And most will stall the airplane. Turn away from the Gorilla..
@DouglasHodgson3 жыл бұрын
That was my question. Thanks!
@paulmaxwell88513 жыл бұрын
@@emergencylowmaneuvering7350 Did you even watch this video? The correct response to a hard GPWS alarm is to climb as quickly as possible. A sudden turn or bank is NOT correct.
@MrThomassch3 жыл бұрын
Still I am wondering, if turning away would not sometimes be better. The computer could calculate it quickly depending on the current weight and thrust. But ok, if I ever fly myself, it is a single prop, not a multi engine jet (fighter). In 20s I have easily turned 180°, but not climbed even 1000 feet.
@srinitaaigaura2 жыл бұрын
That one moment where the radar altimeter dropped suddenly. It actually showed the flight path into the terrain ahead and you guys were already on the stick shaker.
@notmenotme6144 жыл бұрын
14:30 you can see the mountain top outside the First Officers window.
@felobatirmoheb48844 жыл бұрын
@Bo Jangles well its an Emountain :3
@arcm42102 ай бұрын
holy shit i never saw that that's terrifying.
@mvonsmallhausen32215 жыл бұрын
Quite a thriller this one, loved the action.
@utubewillyman5 жыл бұрын
It appears that they were about to fly into something grey, but were able to pull the stick back just in time to fly into something else that was grey.
@blackmirror56015 жыл бұрын
Bit of a hair-raising experience there. I think about it a lot when passing near the Alps, especially on cloudy days. You can also get pretty intense turbulence coming from the winds passing over the mountain range and that alone is enough to warrant a quick trip to the toilet. Thanks so much for sharing this and keep up the good work!
@RedNightDragon12 жыл бұрын
Nice to have made Lorenzo's acquaintance in this video! I've seen him before several times, but we got the full measure of him here. Great job, the both of you!
@raptor747-811 ай бұрын
I did this in a sim when I was training in the USA. We did it in cloud out of Aspen Colorado. We then did it again but this time when we were conducting the terrain escape procedure the instructor suddenly removed the cloud so it was clear blue skies and we could see how close we actually were to the mountain. That image of the mountain out of my windscreen will forever be ingrained in my brain. Best training session I have ever experienced.
@DrewColeMusic4 жыл бұрын
it's crazy how intense these simulations are! just imagine if it were real!
@FlightX1015 жыл бұрын
For the “Just Bank” team. Remember that under this emergency you may have no idea where the terrain actually is in relation to your aircraft.
@MentourPilot5 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@reinhardulbricht11315 жыл бұрын
Havent we´v been told, that the EGPWS-system combines a global map (heights/depths of all terrain) with the planes position, given in real time by GPS?
@audigex5 жыл бұрын
Reinhard Ulbricht sure... but clearly something has gone wrong with your situational awareness in order to be heading toward a mountain in the first place
@jeffreylebowski49275 жыл бұрын
Thats not entirely true - we know its not behind us and we know its somewhere infront of us, we also know its 20 seconds away - thats enough time to make a 90° turn... - if the terrain was just to the right or left of us, shouldnt the radar have picked it up as behing infront of us earlier? - depending on what the minimum turning radius is, trying to make a 180° turn doesnt seem so unreasonable... just hoping, that the mountain infront has less than a 20° slope is a big gamble and commitment as well... might also help to get a better radar, that warns you 40 seconds ahead of time x)
@redwallet23485 жыл бұрын
90 degree turn in 20 seconds in a 737? Hope the passengers don't mind pulling G's then
@mr.g79685 жыл бұрын
As I use KZbin to dose off, damn that was intense... Gonna go have some coffee to calm down to sleep..
@shevangomis5 жыл бұрын
Mr. G lol😂😂
@CeerCol5 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. Simulator or not that was a very intense experience to watch much less perform. Actually performing that maneuver in flight would require quite a bit of time at altitude to recover your breathing and heart rate I think.
@gracegiles54625 жыл бұрын
Mr. G 🤣
@sunjen115 жыл бұрын
LOL! Same here.
@friendlypiranha7745 жыл бұрын
Mr. G - one of the funniest comments on KZbin😂😂😂
@williamstephens99454 жыл бұрын
Omg, you actually survived the terrible "PULL UP!" death warning.
@the_bottomfragger2 жыл бұрын
Seeing that mountain (Untersberg) every morning, this video was even more fascinating. Never considered how delicate a south approach in low visibility could be, a navigation mistake is huge trouble considering everything in the south is high mountains. On the other hand it's reassuring because it seems you really had to climb up at such a steep angle and still made it, as narrow as it was.
@CathyKitson6 ай бұрын
Even though I was waiting for it, that "Terrain, terrain, PULL UP!" still gave me goose-bumps!
@christophermercado54663 жыл бұрын
Ever since I was 5 I've had a pure love with aviation, and this channel is heaven to me. Thank you so much for doing this Captain.
@collinmc905 жыл бұрын
I could see this being one of those situations where staying calm is very important but probably also very difficult! all the noise. the confusion of not knowing where you are in the clouds. Very interesting!
@rongjianliang38454 жыл бұрын
Great video! The explanation for not retracting landing gear is quite interesting, and such a maneuver might have increased the air drag on some larger airliner. They have landing gear doors closed after the gears are locked and in order to retract the gear those doors have to be opened again which creates larger air drag. I guess this is also one of the reasons why gears stay in place in the terrain escape maneuver.
@MarionBlair3 жыл бұрын
Very knowledgeable pilot with excellent teaching skills and I like the pup, I bet he knows a lot about aviation.
@meldroc4 жыл бұрын
I remember hearing the Airbus version of those warnings when watching Sully (both the movie, and the original flight voice recording) - "OBSTACLE! OBSTACLE! PULL UP! PULL UP!" - Sully buzzed really close to the George Washington Bridge just before he ditched that plane in the Hudson. This is definitely the "Oh god, oh god, we're all gonna die!" maneuver.
@sharoncassell93582 жыл бұрын
Ive watched video on wonder and they often keep you hanging not thoroughly explaining the outcome.
@pilot_ricky5 жыл бұрын
I love your videos! I think that showing a practical example is the best way to explain a specific manouver. Keep going!
@MentourPilot5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@deandanielson80745 жыл бұрын
Wow -- bone chilling to watch and helpful to understand terrain avoidance. I did not realize how safety in commercial flight was made so much safer with the invention and implementation of this technology. Thanks !!! - Dean from Minnesota
@bkailua12244 жыл бұрын
You make nice videos and lots of good info for the young ones getting into flying. Not near as spooky today as before having the terrain map in front of you. Before the map all we had was Woop Woop Pull up! Spooky 30 years ago back when the 767 was the most high tech with a magenta line and a green arc and most of us were flying by steam gages. Cali Columbia got us the terrain map. I have a better map and terrain info on my android phone today then I had in a DC- 10 in 1989 or when i retired in 2012 on the 767.
@The_ZeroLine2 жыл бұрын
Woop Woop! Pull up! Brings shivers.
@allanbober84412 жыл бұрын
I'm afraid of air travely but not since I started watching your videos thanks for the expert analysis I too am addicted
@ToyotaTechnical3 жыл бұрын
14:48 the "oh, those mountains" expression
@lonewolf5238 Жыл бұрын
Wow!! I know this was a simulation, but holy hell! Those constant warnings, stick shaker, trying to climb while not stalling.... left me with an elevated heart rate and a chill up my spine. Mad respect for everyone who has "slipped the surly bonds of Earth".
@muhammadyounosraz56982 жыл бұрын
Excellent demo of confronting high terrain and how to overcome the situation
@diygarygaming4 жыл бұрын
Imagine being a passenger just waking up from your nap, and feel yourself sinking while you hear 14:05 coming from the cockpit.
@chosbach4114 жыл бұрын
Even knowing it was a simulation was terrifying to be honest watching this. It's amazing how much training and composure it must take. Nerves of steel. Makes me feel more comfortable as a passenger.
@MohawkMan704 жыл бұрын
Thank god for pilots like Mentour...but mad props to these co pilots, first officers ect. For those about to fly...We salute you!
@Thunderhead3575 жыл бұрын
Taking off from LAX if they have to fly over the mountains, the planes head west over the ocean then loop round to get hight over distance whilst maintianing the speed required to fly over them due to the close proximity of the terrain. Fascinating stuff! Loving the knowledge you're sharing with us. A great insight
@Nyan_Kitty4 жыл бұрын
Salzburg airport really is something, snuggling between those mountains 😅 Quite interesting to watch during take off and landing as a passenger
@arnoldloudly54233 жыл бұрын
That was fantastic...fascinating to see. Even a tiny bit of panic during the alert and its all over.
@limrc15 жыл бұрын
Thanks for bringing us into and letting us experience what it feels like when you could die and fighting for everyone's lives. Another thing that's not readily obvious is the intense training of CRM or Cockpit Resource Management. Responses were automatic with superb, life saving, instincts with each confirming and validating each other's actions. Thanks for sharing!!!
@speed150mph5 жыл бұрын
15:02, I wasn’t aware that “shit shit shit shit” was a callout for the 737NG. 🤣 kidding, nicely done if a bit hairy there at the end 👍
@adamthepagan96807 ай бұрын
The CVR on almost every accident flight has this callout.
@tullochmacdonald42452 жыл бұрын
This may be an older video but it was still informative. Thank you for sharing your experience and insights into the problems that can be encountered and hopefully overcome. I wish you well in your continued travels.
@sharoncassell93582 жыл бұрын
I flew a simulator for 737 in 1984. It was realistic & just as scary but the technology greatly has upgraded and modernized. Alot more safety features.Glad for improvements.
@NM-lj1iq5 жыл бұрын
I admire pilots so much. You really have to have nerves of steel to do that job. Even the alarm was making me nervous and I'm just watching the video 😂 Safe to say I wont be becoming a pilot any time soon.
@rsmith1555 жыл бұрын
Nun Ya most of the the time being a pilot is a terribly boring job, these kinds of situations are avoided as much as possible
@gcisbani5 жыл бұрын
Wow. Even knowing perfectly that it's a simulation, you feel the urge to take action!
@desertpair25 жыл бұрын
Excellent, as always . . . although, as a non-pilot, I'm not sure I fully comprehended the situation. Man, these simulators are valuable, aren't they?! Keep up the great work.
@marks27313 жыл бұрын
As always, excellent explanation. Always easy to understand someone’s explanation of something when they understand it inside out and back to front.
@gregwochlik92333 жыл бұрын
That was quite intense action! I am a former student pilot (abandoned after 80 hours, no PPL, 2007-2009). I guess that terrain escape has "don't turn" policy, for various reasons. Your previous videos inspired me to pull out the old joystick and fly in Microsoft Flight Simulator X. (I pushed a microlight to 13,000ft before getting bored after a mission. Afterwards, I did a gliding descent to the runway)
@Sy-T0075 жыл бұрын
My God, that was intense. It's best never to get into that situation in the first place. I was on the edge of my seat throughout that...
@IMGuapo-dg1hu5 жыл бұрын
sylatex Without hands i was gripping the edge of my seat.
@eamonnmorris53312 жыл бұрын
Great vid. It brings home a number of previously uncontemplated realities - for instance, how small an actual space the two pilots have to operate in (at least on the simulated aircraft), and how crucial the interplay of crew roles/ responsibilities is to achieving a satisfactory outcome in the circumstances being recreated. Bravo!
@PurityVendetta3 жыл бұрын
Wow, that was an incredibly intense video even though I'm watching two guys in a simulator from the safety of my own sofa. Thanks for taking the time to explain why you didn't raise the gear as I was wondering.
@x--.5 жыл бұрын
What made this demonstration so convincing and effective was the inclusion of such an easily believed task, visually searching for the runway, as the reason for the loss of situational awareness. It really drives home how easily such a scenario could take place. It does make you wonder whether an "Extra Enhanced" terrain warning system will ever be developed that includes instructions on whether making a turn would be appropriate. Turning blind is out of the question but if it included "pull up" and "bank right" or "bank left" that seems like it would help avoid an early landing attempt.
@stephanweinberger4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. And it's easy to mistake some other straight terrain feature or building for a runway. E.g. in the alps we have lots of ski-jumping hills - some of them even illuminated - which might look like a runway in the fog, especially if you're desperately looking for one. Humans are heavily affected by confirmation bias.
@Zapii1123 жыл бұрын
I've been watching many of your videos over the last couple of days and I very much enjoy them! I was surpsied to see the terrain escape over a mountain I've hiked up many times :)
@TheCracker945 жыл бұрын
This was awesome Mentour!! I loved it. Still hard to believe that we can access this amazing content for free on KZbin. Thank you again :)
@rex698324 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fascinating, sir. Even though you are in a simulator you have nerves of steel. Well done, sir.
@neelufisherman5744 жыл бұрын
Air India lost two Aircraft over Mount Blanc One was a Constellation the Other was a 707.Only recently did they find parts of the wreckage.I watch you channel closely and find it so valuable .
@Schismarch3 жыл бұрын
That was definitely intense. I like that the pilot monitoring called bank, too.
@juliehay2 жыл бұрын
yes, that was definitely nerve wracking! it was really lovely at the end to see you playing with one of your dogs, so much fun that the other one wanted some fun too, how lovely, thankyou for that, and an excellent video showing just some of what you pilots have to do.
@1daddyDA5 жыл бұрын
I love what you said at the end. In summary executing the Terrain Escape Manoeuvre doesn’t mean you will avoid the mountain but it ‘gives us the best possible chance.’ Now I’m glad pilots flying my Sons around in Europe and beyond are so well trained and that TEM is available. I’ll never forget another video you made where you said in essence ‘never give up fighting and trying to save you and your passengers’ Keep working the problem even if it looks hopeless. When I was working in a call centre I talked to a customer who was an airline Pilot. He told me of a friend and colleague of his who in a military aircraft encountered a fatal structural failure at altitude. Whet just blew me away was that right to the end the pilot gave a running commentary to ATC on what was happening to his aircraft, what his instruments were reading and what he was doing still trying to recover the aircraft. He said his hope was that would help the Air Accident Investigation Branch. Now that is calm, professional and controlled right to the very end. Love your videos and love following your channel. If you are ever in the Norfolk UK area I would love to meet you as I have been an aviation geek since my very early childhood.
@sharoncassell93582 жыл бұрын
Thar a great man knowung he will die and still looking out for others.
@scriptkiddie4240 Жыл бұрын
Was the military aircraft one that doesn’t have an ejection seat?
@6691ecirbaf3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting indeed. I was wondering why wouldn't EGPWS give the warning, not as a time before terrain, but rather when the manoeuvre is still possible with a safe pitch. In another word, the higher is the obstacle the sooner the warning to allow for a safe escape
@leoinstatenisland3 жыл бұрын
I had the same exact question. Is there a reason?
@ainsleycarrington3 жыл бұрын
It takes too long to process. It is better to memory train "I hear EGPWS numbers, emergency" whereas "maneuver now for avoid terrain" is too much cognitive capacity, when you need to avoid the startle response.
@Sukkulents_3 жыл бұрын
i think it also comes from the fact that the amount of terrain and distance and speed it would have to check to work out something like that would be immense. the egpws already has a lot to take into account even with the fairly narrow field of ‘what’s 40 seconds in front of me’. ideally though, that would be a good goal for future safety features
@EASYTIGER105 жыл бұрын
Plane nearly hits mountain...Petter: "..and this is what happens on a good day" lol
@MentourPilot5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@topquark223 жыл бұрын
Tak Petter, one of the most thrilling videos you have made for us. Have an absolutely fantastic day.
@andyjackson38913 жыл бұрын
...and THIS is why we put our lives in pilots hands. Incredible. Thanks for this explanation/demonstration, Mentour.
@dihydrogenmonoxid13375 жыл бұрын
I really like that you show how everything looks in the sim. Really good explained, eighter👍
@MentourPilot5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! I’m so happy you like it!
@Papershields0015 жыл бұрын
My grand uncle was an instructor in the 40s and died in a CFIT accident. I really hope he never had a chance to be scared, I hope it just happened in an instant.
@flagmichael2 жыл бұрын
It must have been quick enough that he had no time to react meaningfully.
@Papershields0012 жыл бұрын
@@flagmichael it was at night so probably had no idea. He and a student were in a T6 Texan and must’ve hit incredibly hard. The cause of death on his death certificate says “traumatic disintegration.” So I can only assume.
@IwCk5 жыл бұрын
This is an amazing video as usual. Thanks for all the valuable info's you provide in this KZbin channel.
@Vtrontv2 жыл бұрын
What perplexed me is that the gear is down even at stall speed (It creates a lot of drag), but ofcourse you've made it clear why is it so! Didn't know that we have to take it to the edge of the flight envelope for the escape maneuver that's indeed nerve wracking! Thank you for the video!!
@antharro Жыл бұрын
Astonishing stuff, and what a great demonstration of how to handle it; even if I was on the edge of my seat for all of it. Thanks very much for this video, even if it was 4 years ago!
@vividthespis5 жыл бұрын
I have been watching your videos from 2015. The production quality increase has been incredible. Well done sir.
@ThomasGabrielsen5 жыл бұрын
Dette var en veldig bra video med mye interessant informasjon jeg ikke visste fra før. Jeg ante ikke at dere kunne dra så hardt og lenge helt til "the stick shaker" startet. Veldig interessant! PS: Jeg skriver på norsk siden jeg vet du er svensk og det er hyggelig at en fra broder-landet har gjort det så bra som du har. Gratulerer! Du har gjort en strålende jobb og har anbefalt deg for alle mine venner som er interessert i fly. Dette er et engangstilfelle, jeg vil kun kommentere på engelsk i fremtiden. :-)
@TCovey2104 жыл бұрын
Very good, practice terrain escape when I got my rating in a king air 350. It’s a very good way to learn to fly on the edge of performance also... love the mentor pilot and all that you share.
@dtaylor10chuckufarle2 жыл бұрын
You chaps have nerves of steel!
@danttapp44463 жыл бұрын
In several of these videos you have said many times that there is just too much for one person to deal with when things are going wrong. Watching you in the simulater made that much clearer.
@MattThornton873 жыл бұрын
Hell, that was stressful to watch even knowing it was a simulator!! Can't imagine what it would be like for a crew in a real world situation. The training & immediate actions could be the difference between life & death. A great insight thank you 😊
@d_kortman5 жыл бұрын
14:58 "Shit. shit, shit, shit ,shit!!" By mentour was scary to hear. He knew that if this was real, he was hanging onto life by his pinky finger
@flyhigh15005 жыл бұрын
Very very interesting technical content ! Thank you Mentour
@erwinschmidt72653 жыл бұрын
WOW!! Great video!! I'm no pilot as only had 4 lessons. In Wawa Ontario '74 on approach to lake in dense fog, Air Service Owner used engine noise to clear descent. I was in rt seat w/Buddy in back when I shouted "Mountain...THERE", pointing ahead. Pilot said pull back for up & let me know when straight up as need to coax engine. Alive reckoned up, advised Pilot who took control, I advised shear rock face under pontoons, Pilot glanced peeing pants flying up until plane had no more, kicked rudder and dropped down mountain dodging trees & lookin' for airspeed trimming 1 last treetop soaring up into safety of the fog. Pilot radioed Air Service finding owner had abandoned us to take phone call fighting w/wife! When plane handler heard engine noise disappear meaning hadn't cleared last "hill", he tried for Owner's attention but Missus way more important. Owner advised NOW we were clear to settle & land which Pilot did, but still so pissed hit Owner on button, & his head swiveled as tumbled off dock. Pilot indifferent so Plane Handlers jumped in saving Owner's life. Would any of the above be a Terrain Escape Maneuver??
@annanymous039 ай бұрын
Watching this from the safety of my flat, years after it happened and knowing it's a simulation, but my heart rate was through the roof there. Knowing what training you guys go through eases my mind about getting on an aeroplane any time soon. Thank you!
@plasmaburndeath5 жыл бұрын
Great video as always Petter. Thank you for always doing quality content for us.
@buckstarchaser23764 жыл бұрын
I remember that lesson from Air Crash Investigation. One of the more stressful episodes.
@citizenblue5 жыл бұрын
Mentour, how do you react physiologically when performing these maneuvers in a sim? Do you feel that life or death urgency or does knowing it's a simulation negate that? I am aware that pilots revert to their training in these contingencies, thus (hopefully) avoiding panic and poor decisions, but is the adrenaline there? Great video, awesome topic!
@MentourPilot5 жыл бұрын
Well, to a certain extent. Im sure you heard my “shit shit shit” comments when the radar altimeter started going down.. so yes, a bit
@macswanton96223 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the movie "To Have and Have Not" when the charter fisherman gets hooked up to a big fish, and has his hands full! Most enjoyable. Our host makes a good Bogart :o)
@geoben18103 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I would definitely practice that several times. More importantly this illustrates the need to ALWAYS pay attention to your surroundings and your instruments!
@kperkins19825 жыл бұрын
Shew, I know that was a simulation but I was stressed!
@MentourPilot5 жыл бұрын
Yes, it’s a terribly stressful maneuver. Please help the channel by sharing it with your friends, it really helps the channel even if no one uses the link
@idolatrystudios5 жыл бұрын
Dude that was pretty intense. Well done
@aspunky15 жыл бұрын
If this simulation included up and down drafts from terrain winds such as rotors, it would really show how deadly this situation is
@helbent42 жыл бұрын
I am glad he clarified that the speed brake was fully retracted at 18:21. This is because he goes over it at first at 8:26 but kind of swallows the word so it sounds like "lower the speed back" instead of "...speed brake". Further, if you don't know that lowering the speed brake retracts it, this is not very enlightening! Trivia: the expression "balls to the wall" or going as fast as possible refers to pushing the throttle as far forward to the firewall as possible. The "balls" are of course the knobs on top of the throttle.
@BillyKirbyUK Жыл бұрын
I do like the way that you explain these - possibly harrowing - manuevres. In simple terms and always very calm. Thank you for being such a good instructor.
@shehulsuratwala26845 жыл бұрын
How about escaping to the right or left side while pitching up instead of just pitching up and fly straight ahead ? Is it possible?
@danilak18735 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to ask this! Yeah! we need ANSWER!!!! plz
@danilak18735 жыл бұрын
i can assume that you gonna lose lift forces, and maybe mountains can be even higher left or right.... i dont know....
@Bigalinjapan5 жыл бұрын
@@danilak1873I guess stall will be more likely. Need all power for climb.
@tommyvercetti8885 жыл бұрын
a fighter jet can do that but an airliner can't
@gordonlawrence47495 жыл бұрын
You definitely loose lift when banking. Basically you have a sine/cosine situation. Lift is proportional to the cosine of your bank angle and turn force is proportional to the sine of the angle. That will probably make a difference to banking or not in this situation. That said with some pitch up you also have the engines adding a bit to lift. Lift from the engines is proportional to the sine of your angle relative to gravity. That said you are hardly going to have time to get a pocket calculator out to calculate your force vectors in an emergency which is why the procedures are there - to give you the best chance of survival for the minimum cognitive load.
@AshvjeetMusic4 жыл бұрын
Although I know that in real life, situations can be worse than this, the requirement for such a manoeuvre is less likely to happen. Anyways, hats off to the brave people in the cockpit keeping the skies safe for us. Personally, I love such challenges so that is why I would like to become a pilot myself.
@The-Bloke3 жыл бұрын
Damn, you guys knew exactly what was about to happen and it still looked stressful as hell.
@bonbondesel2 жыл бұрын
This video shows very well how quick it can happen. Impressive ! Very good video !
@elainelouve3 жыл бұрын
I've travelled to Innsbruck and Lausanne, so this was both nerve wrecking and soothing at the same time.x)