WORST Possible Combination! The Startling Tale of Wizz Air Flight 801

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HOW did the pilots of Wizz Air Flight 801 end up over 1,000 ft below the height of surrounding terrain with no clue they were heading straight towards a mountain?
In today’s video, we’ll break down the string of errors that led to this dire situation and how Wizz Air used this incident to train future pilots on how you should NEVER handle a terrain escape procedure.
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@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 3 күн бұрын
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@kaiperdaens7670
@kaiperdaens7670 3 сағат бұрын
How many hours of flight time do you have accumulated during your career?
@cmdrclassified
@cmdrclassified 3 сағат бұрын
The term is 'GIGO', garbage in, garbage out. Another popular computer term is 'PICNIC'. Problem in chair, not in computer.
@Smartzenegger
@Smartzenegger Сағат бұрын
@@kaiperdaens7670 More than 2.
@papahackman9241
@papahackman9241 Сағат бұрын
Can you please make a video of Allied Air Flight 111 accident in Ghana, west Africa. Would love to hear that story. Love your content and wouldn’t miss it for anything
@Kobby_Sweetboy
@Kobby_Sweetboy Сағат бұрын
@MentourPilot We appreciate the effort of you and your team but please increase your upload, at least once a week
@dominikadamkowski6684
@dominikadamkowski6684 Сағат бұрын
I love the "pull up" jumpscare, it was so well executed and proves the point perfectly. Hats off to whoever came up with this idea.
@crazyshev36
@crazyshev36 2 сағат бұрын
Ah time to get the mentour pilot bingo out: Well.... No. Terrain Terrain, Pull Up! Noooot exactly... Why did this captain do this? We will never know. Now, as a pilot myself... Remember that bit of information we talked about earlier?...Yeah.. If the pilots just looked down at the instruments for one second... Aviate, Navigate then Communicate! Before we get to the end I want to take this opportunity to...
@kasiak1288
@kasiak1288 23 минут бұрын
Remember that. This is gonna become very important soon.
@roccitycrew3887
@roccitycrew3887 21 минут бұрын
And don't forget the famous lip smack then long inhale...
@MatthcaB
@MatthcaB 11 минут бұрын
The aircraft was a beauuuutiful... And that's worth keeping in mind.
@kasiak1288
@kasiak1288 6 минут бұрын
They started to fall behind the aircraft
@kovacsemod
@kovacsemod 3 сағат бұрын
Hats off to the engineers who designed the systems that gave these pilots time to rectify this situation
@mofayer
@mofayer 3 сағат бұрын
That "pull up" jump scare was on point, made me jump. 😅
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 3 сағат бұрын
That was the point!
@trevorross1311
@trevorross1311 Сағат бұрын
It got me too.
@stobiepiel2585
@stobiepiel2585 Сағат бұрын
It got me!
@himbaer
@himbaer 19 минут бұрын
It got me too. The "PULL UP" alone is scary enough, but this was really well timed. And to my shame you kind of announced it and I still fell for it.
@jacktaylorphotos
@jacktaylorphotos 2 сағат бұрын
This was quite an emotional one for me, at the moment that it looked like they were gone, and then the Alpha Floor protection came it and literally saved them. We hear a lot about the Airbus systems in some of the not so positive stories so it was good to hear it shown in such a positive light in this one.
@Greg_P611
@Greg_P611 Сағат бұрын
Why was it emotional for you?
@simon-6963
@simon-6963 Сағат бұрын
At the begining, when I learned it was an empty plane, I felt relieved because, if the story ended in a crash, then only 3 people would die. I must confes that I really thought the plane was going to crash into the mountains after the pilots made so many mistakes, so I felt very happy when the safety feature saved the day! But if you felt "emotional" about an empty plane, then I suggest you don't watch the videos about accidents where hundreds of people lose their lives, otherwise you would feel crushed!
@bzipoli
@bzipoli 54 минут бұрын
the systems are great tbh, apart from i believe one or two cases (AF440 wasnt one). its just pilots being arrogant in general. the truth is more automation means less accidents and thats it.
@minerscale
@minerscale 30 минут бұрын
Man it would've been emotional for me if I didn't already know about the airbus's protection systems, I was thinking 'well sure they're close to a stall but the plane won't let them do it'.
@alexthemess101
@alexthemess101 4 сағат бұрын
This is the earliest I’ve been to a Mentour Pilot video - keep up the good work man! I’ve watched so many videos of yours that I can’t find ones I haven’t seen!
@Arvl.
@Arvl. 3 сағат бұрын
i guess i'll watch this before sleeping XD
@sheldon97sheldon
@sheldon97sheldon 4 сағат бұрын
I never click on a youtubers videos quicker than Mentour Pilot. Always quality content.
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 4 сағат бұрын
Excellent! That’s what I want to hear 💕
@bandamonopuma
@bandamonopuma 4 сағат бұрын
Hey Petter, my father is a retired pilot and i always translate your videos for him, part by part. He loves them! It would be awesome to have a spanish audio track on them, there’s a whole spanish speaking audience that would love the videos. Keep up the good work!
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 4 сағат бұрын
We are looking into creating a Spanish dubbed channel, just for this
@vamsi3
@vamsi3 3 сағат бұрын
​​@@MentourPilotI think KZbin now allows to add multiple audio streams in different languages on the same video. Seen it recently on some other channels!
@Stips93
@Stips93 3 сағат бұрын
@@vamsi3 Maybe so, but it wouldn't monetize the same way; and these video's take an unbelievable amount of effort. People scathe over that, every animation is created by them. I can't imagine the profit lines/going negative are so thin. He needs another revenue stream, and Mr. Beast did it; it's how he exploded. This is the best aviation content on youtube bar none.
@karlospineda371
@karlospineda371 3 сағат бұрын
@@MentourPilotAnd a Catalan version? I could help
@asi411
@asi411 3 сағат бұрын
@@MentourPilotw
@robink.9459
@robink.9459 3 сағат бұрын
I have been binging Mentours videos over the past weeks and I must say the production quality is on an insane level that is unmatched anywhere. Kudos to the whole team involved!
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 3 сағат бұрын
Wow, thank you!
@davehall8584
@davehall8584 Сағат бұрын
This particular video here..i was stunned by the quality!...breathtaking!..it really brings home the visceral nature of the narrative!
@pavle8048
@pavle8048 2 сағат бұрын
Thank you for new video Mentour! Fun fact, yesterday was 38th birthday of Niš airport. It was opened on 12/10/1986 and it is second biggest airport in Serbia.
@KCLIBURN-mj9qx
@KCLIBURN-mj9qx 57 минут бұрын
Another excellent video in which disaster was avoided but it was looking bad. Put this change in your penny jar and keep these outstanding videos coming! Every time I see one of these aviation videos it makes me realize just how on top the pilots have to be at all times and ready to handle anything! Thanks again to your crew and keep up the high production values!
@draganilic4187
@draganilic4187 Сағат бұрын
Regarding Nis airport, 5 -10 years ago, during heavy snow, a Wizz plane tried to land at least 5-6 times. After the last attempt, he left for Budapest. I know because I was following on the flight radar and the runway 29 landing corridor is above my head. A wonderful video that explained to me how complicated Niš airport is!
@damianski6959
@damianski6959 3 сағат бұрын
Its amazing how Peter sounds exactly like the aircraft warning systems when using words like " terrain" or " pull up" etc 😃
@16rightCTL
@16rightCTL Сағат бұрын
This sharing of responsibility in the cockpit is burnt into my mind since an approach in a 172 into Page airport. I was on the Right side responsible for Radio coms and navigation, nothing else . On final approach we came in way to high being not familiar with the airport, even though it has a long long runway. But because we where usually trained on landing on short grass strips, I called out go around and in panic then all off a sudden put the flaps to 0 without announcing it. My friend flying was completely startled, the stall warning came on and we sank singnificantly. Fortunately we recovered and landed safely but ever since I don’t blame the pilots in your examples. All of a sudden everything becomes to speed up and happen super quickly… even in a Cessna 172..
@thrillvilled111
@thrillvilled111 4 сағат бұрын
Never thought to see Wizz Air on the Mentour Pilot Channel! 🤯
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 3 сағат бұрын
I hope you found it interesting
@TheEliera
@TheEliera 3 сағат бұрын
Yeah I fly with wizz sometimes scary stuff
@thrillvilled111
@thrillvilled111 3 сағат бұрын
@@MentourPilot Very interesting and hair raising. Gold content 💛
@thrillvilled111
@thrillvilled111 3 сағат бұрын
@@TheEliera Wow like what?
@unggrabb
@unggrabb 3 сағат бұрын
People, technology, weather - no airline above laws of physics.
@matehavlik4559
@matehavlik4559 3 сағат бұрын
Niš is pronounced "Nish", a bit confusing, sounds like Nice in France. Budapest is BudapeSHt too, but that doesn't matter 🙂
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 3 сағат бұрын
I had a feeling that might be the case
@matehavlik4559
@matehavlik4559 3 сағат бұрын
@@MentourPilot Amazing video though, I remember reading about it back in the day.
@marcellkovacs5452
@marcellkovacs5452 2 сағат бұрын
Even most Hungarians pronounce Budapest with the English S sound when speaking in English, it's perfectly fine.
@rock-bottom2023
@rock-bottom2023 4 сағат бұрын
SpaceX just caught a Starship booster out of midair! AND a new Mentour Pilot Video! What a great way to start a day!
@kaiperdaens7670
@kaiperdaens7670 4 сағат бұрын
Lol here it is 15:05
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 4 сағат бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! And yes, SpaceX are doing some amazing stuff!
@kaiperdaens7670
@kaiperdaens7670 3 сағат бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="545">9:05</a> it is interesting how the egpws is both the one thing pilots never wanna hear but also the thing they never wanna not hear. And passengers especially don't ever wanna hear it during a pa or something.
@Petar1984Nis
@Petar1984Nis 3 сағат бұрын
Thanks for this story! Im originally from Niš, Serbia and I flew numerous times with WizzAir above those mountains. I’m sure that they lernt the lesson! Cheers, Petar
@AVION360
@AVION360 4 сағат бұрын
Oh yeah the famous phrase in Information Technology (IT). GIGO. Garbage In - Garbage Out.
@AaronOfMpls
@AaronOfMpls Сағат бұрын
And it goes way back, too. Charles Babbage (who designed mechanical computers in the mid 19th century) didn't put it quite that simply, but he clearly understood it -- and wondered why others didn't always: "On two occasions I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' ... I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question."
@stephenspackman5573
@stephenspackman5573 Сағат бұрын
@@AaronOfMpls Have you noticed-I'm sure you have-what is happening with “AI” this last year or so? Apparently magical thinking is the default mode of our species.
@wbfaulk
@wbfaulk Сағат бұрын
Yeah, I don't think anyone has ever said "Rubbish In, Rubbish Out" before.
@footnuke
@footnuke 41 минут бұрын
I've heard "shit in, shit out" before. SISO? 😅
@no_name4796
@no_name4796 3 сағат бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="2005">33:25</a> that jumpscared startled me lol
@Marc443
@Marc443 3 сағат бұрын
I flew the A320FAM 15 years and is a fantastic aircraft. Sidestick-handling is brilliant and that the thrustlevers are not moving is no problem. Watch your FMA at all time!
@r0dani3lb
@r0dani3lb 2 сағат бұрын
This story is actually both frightening and reassuring because I also stay close to an airport surrounded by mountains (quite similar landscape to that in Serbia) from which Wizz Air operates. This story actually brought more information about how such landings are done and what systems are helping. Thanks a lot !
@justicemaake684
@justicemaake684 4 сағат бұрын
I commend your research team for a comprehensive research that they're always doing but I'm most impressed by your ability to explain and narrate technical aspects of an airplane that you've got zero experience on especially the Airbus since you're a 737 guy through and through. It can't be an easy task talking about an aircraft you're not rated on and knowing very well that there's thousands of highly experienced pilots on type who follows your page. A job well done in that regard!
@TucsonDancer
@TucsonDancer 4 сағат бұрын
I love a good “get your popcorn” video (i.e. - exciting to watch with no loss of life)! 🍿😎 -Greetings from the Patreon crew
@KingOfTheSkies1
@KingOfTheSkies1 2 сағат бұрын
As a Serbian i gasped when you mentioned Nis and Serbia, thanks!
@krieger3511
@krieger3511 2 сағат бұрын
И одвојио Космет…
@KingOfTheSkies1
@KingOfTheSkies1 2 сағат бұрын
@@krieger3511 boli me dupe
@srbaleks-3371
@srbaleks-3371 2 сағат бұрын
He only used the wrong map of serbia 😶
@balazskoti2603
@balazskoti2603 2 сағат бұрын
Good to hear how well and maturity Wizz Air handled the aftermath of the incident instead of sweeping this under the rug. Greetings from Hungary!
@Bigsky1991
@Bigsky1991 3 сағат бұрын
"Worst possible combination "....is a understatement! After the second bizarre MCP input, I'm clicking everything off, calling ATC, circling back to take a fresh run at it or ask for Vectors.... I applied for Wizz back during the Covid year...guess I dodged a bullet!
@dddaddy
@dddaddy Сағат бұрын
If you only applied to companies with an immaculate record, you'd never have a job.
@ex101jc
@ex101jc 3 сағат бұрын
Airbus. When the plane ends up flying you being the savioir of the day once again. We already had one of those repositioning flights that didn‘t go so well
@swiftboi8077
@swiftboi8077 2 сағат бұрын
This is perfect to watch 1 week before my Wizz flight over the alps😁
@daCubanaqt
@daCubanaqt 2 сағат бұрын
Garbage in, garbage out. Learned that from senior engineers very early on in my career.
@ex59neo53
@ex59neo53 3 сағат бұрын
At first hearing i was thinking "Hey ! Nice is in France ,not Serbia !" ,then i rewinded and watched the video :)
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 3 сағат бұрын
I know.. I could have researched the pronunciation of Niš better
@stevanmarinkovic5756
@stevanmarinkovic5756 2 сағат бұрын
@@MentourPilot When the airport opened for the service a while ago, there were cases of people flying in Nis with Ryan Air or something, expecting to have bought the tickets to Nice. So it happens :)
@AaronOfMpls
@AaronOfMpls Сағат бұрын
​@@stevanmarinkovic5756Like people going to Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada instead of Sydney, New South Wales, Australia -- or vice versa? (Though the difference in distance isn't _quite_ as big. 🙂)
@stevanmarinkovic5756
@stevanmarinkovic5756 Сағат бұрын
@@AaronOfMpls I guess it was more a case of getting Ryanair tickets for 20€ or something, not even checking, then going anyway or something :)
@gin3383
@gin3383 3 сағат бұрын
i really appreciate the startle simulation you gave at the end lol that "pull up!" actually made me jump xD great work as always
@wavemode69
@wavemode69 Сағат бұрын
Another beautiful example of a plane saving itself from a crash, despite its pilots' best efforts to the contrary... Very enlightening video! Keep up the good work.
@SapphireDreamsFlightSimulation
@SapphireDreamsFlightSimulation 4 сағат бұрын
You sir are an inspiration! After I started watching your videos my love for aviation increased tenfolds and I am trying to learn more each day. Thank you🎉
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 4 сағат бұрын
Excellent! That makes me really happy to hear.
@_Cactyss
@_Cactyss 4 сағат бұрын
Have you heard of the incident involving two 737s that were forced to land below minima with almost no fuel in 2013? Would love to see a video on it!
@kaiperdaens7670
@kaiperdaens7670 4 сағат бұрын
Sounds interesting
@dev_mind
@dev_mind 3 сағат бұрын
The Investigation number of this accident is "AO-2013-100". Google it
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 3 сағат бұрын
Oh yes, I’ve heard plenty about that
@volvo09
@volvo09 3 сағат бұрын
Yikes!
@AlbertoRestuccia
@AlbertoRestuccia 2 сағат бұрын
Which ones do you mean? Never heard of them!
@karlelias
@karlelias 51 минут бұрын
Salzburg is a great place to demonstrate the GPWS :D
@EstorilEm
@EstorilEm 2 сағат бұрын
PLEASE do more of the Airbus near-crash incident videos. They’re kinda hard to find because they don’t get any press and the general public doesn’t know/care, but most of them are rather astonishing. There’s one about a plane that basically did exactly what Asiana @ SFO did on approach, I believe alpha floor and speed prot kicked in, they were so far behind the plane they didn’t even react to the warnings and got the plane within like 4kts of a stall (IIRC) before it finally just took over everything and flew them out of it. The interesting thing about that case is that the protections are actually predictive, they know that even if you aren’t stalling YET, if you wait any longer the engine thrust delay won’t allow adequate power to avoid the future stall, and adjusts the override time accordingly. People always compare the number of Boeing crashes to the number of Airbus crashes, but never mention the number of AVOIDED disasters (which was basically a huge design philosophy of the A320 family and later models in the first place.) Again, no one really cares about an “almost” crash, so…
@baronepam
@baronepam Сағат бұрын
I was a passenger on a US flight from Kansas City MO to Pittsburgh PA in the 1980's. The plane suddenly increased power and I felt a climb almost like a take off. It was weird and got weirder when the Pilot apologized over the PA. He said there was another airplane where it wasn't supposed to be. I still feel anxiety and immense gratitude over that. Big Ups for that stuff.
@MikeHarris1984
@MikeHarris1984 3 сағат бұрын
I was on a southwest airlines jet from SFO to PHX once with just me and my director on the entire flight after a conference. It was crazy. The staff was like if you want anything just let us know, we are fully stocked, so you guys can have whatever you want anytime you want! Lol. They had to get the plane to PHX for another flight and not sure how no one else was booked, if only our company travel portal was bringing up this flight and no other systems did or something. But we had a long week of drinking and partying and the restful flight was amazing
@stelios.a
@stelios.a 18 минут бұрын
I watched a couple of days ago the "Rogue Pilots" episode and I can say that the quality and the narative have improved dramatically. Kudos Peter and the team. Great job and great content.
@sebastianv.270
@sebastianv.270 3 сағат бұрын
Hi Petter, despite not being a pilot I enjoy your videos for quite a while now! I work in quality assurance and therefore I especially appreciate your approach to mistakes and how to deal with them! I have a similar mindset that a mistake made should be a lesson learned! Not reporting a mistake is often far more worse than making the mistake.
@ARandom777
@ARandom777 3 сағат бұрын
Another fabulous video Mentour. This incident shows how quickly things can go very wrong if standard operating procedures aren't adhered to and how one mistake can lead to further complications down the road if not rectified early. I also agree with you concerning Airbus thinking of not having linked/force feedback sidesticks and moving thrust levers. Tactile feedback is a valuable thing to have and to not have it in the Airbus limits you to only visual cues, which alone isn't the best, especially when in a very complex situation, even if it's managed quite well in normal operations everyday. And in regards to the dual input warning, with high workload that is either not heard (due to loss of hearing in stress) or cancelled due to stall warning and ground proximity warning activation. While it's easy to criticize Boeing nowadays for their various problems with their latest aircraft in production, at least they got their flight control system absolutely spot on (excluding how MCAS originally was on the 737 MAX).. Force feedback and synchronized controls and self moving throttle is the way to go. I never understood how unlinked and non force feedback sidesticks and non moving thrust levers was an advance in aviation safety. We have seen enough Airbus accidents and incidents to show that's not the case, especially when it comes to the sidestick. Of course dual control is possible in Boeing too (Egypt Air 961 and Air France 11) but I think the Airbus solution is much worse than having synchronized and backdriven controls. All that said, Bravo to Airbus for the ability for the Autothrust system giving full power automatically whenever the airspeed gets too low in normal law. This is something I wish Boeing implemented in their aircraft. That's a great safety system right there.
@tomstravels520
@tomstravels520 3 сағат бұрын
That still doesn't prevent a crash. The Sriwijaya 737 that crashed had one of the thrust levers move back on its own......without the crew noticing
@ARandom777
@ARandom777 2 сағат бұрын
@@tomstravels520 Of course not by itself it'd prevent a crash. I am aware of incidents like the Asiana 777 accident where the levers moved and the crew still screwed the pooch. The purpose is to reduce the possibility of things getting worse with feedback in the controls or aid in resolving matters sooner. If it fails, it fails, but that doesn't mean non feedback controls are the best solution. The mentality should not be "it doesn't matter if an aircraft has all the tactile feedback cause pilots can still crash it despite all the control feedback, therefore we don't need such feedback controls in the Airbus". That isn't the best way of seeing things. Anything that can help aid safety and enhance situational awareness like the airport moving map in the cockpit of modern day aircraft like the A350, feedback controls, Vertical Situation Display etc should be welcomed if it means the chances of an accident happening is decreased.
@LuigiRosa
@LuigiRosa 53 минут бұрын
That's a video that people working outside the flight industry should watch and that exactly the reason why, as an IT professional, I watch Mentour's video and try to learn. Thank you Petter!
@EndeavourSilver
@EndeavourSilver 3 сағат бұрын
These short dramatic intros keep getting me - good job!! And I'm always glad to hear that there were great learnings to improve safety in aviation, makes me really comfortable - especially when no lives are lost during those "lessons" :) Greetings from Discord :D
@DJRobSunset
@DJRobSunset 2 сағат бұрын
Hey Petter, great video as always. Have been watching your videos for years. I just took my first flight ever because I was always really scared. But your videos explaining everything made me feel at ease. I could imagine what was going on during take off and landing. So thank you for all your work.
@EinfachLuap
@EinfachLuap 3 сағат бұрын
Worked for Wizzair and flew to Nis quite a lot, it's a tricky one for sure.
@Woutopia
@Woutopia 3 сағат бұрын
I must be honest, the transition from the risk of flying in mountains to the ad was really smooth, well done!
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 3 сағат бұрын
😅😅
@kerryoxford9232
@kerryoxford9232 2 сағат бұрын
Thank you so much for your videos Peter. They are always explained so well on a lay-person level. 🤓🤗🛩️✈️
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot Сағат бұрын
You are very welcome!
@thisiscait
@thisiscait 3 сағат бұрын
Would be great to see you cover Vnukovo Airlines Flight 2801 if possible! The impact on Pyramiden was massive, I visited ten years ago or so and it's just fascinating.
@jat745
@jat745 3 сағат бұрын
Your videos eased my fears of flying… good job
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 3 сағат бұрын
Excellent, I’m happy to hear that
@mita6010
@mita6010 Сағат бұрын
Best graphics out there in the KZbin universe. Your thorough explanations of these incidents are highly informative. Thank you 😊
@RohitSingh0
@RohitSingh0 6 минут бұрын
One minor correction, as a software engineer/pilot who has worked in aerospace: WGS84 is not a database. It's the system which maps lat/lng/altitude into points into 3D space. In other words, it's a map projection. Other map projections are things like NAD83 (which focuses on North America) and GCJ02 which is basically the same as WGS84 but randomly warped in China for the sake of "national security." Points on one datum will differ slightly from points on another, which is why if you look at Google Maps on the Hong Kong/Shenzen border you'll see crazy stuff like buildings in the ocean. The database that makes EGPWS work is a terrain database. This is something like SRTM (the Shuttle Radar Topography MIssion) which actually tells you the shape of the ground.
@SundanceHelicopterTours
@SundanceHelicopterTours 17 минут бұрын
simply an awesome video! The aviation specific info, your judgement of the crew performance AND the animations are simply outstanding!!! Thank you!
@stevekirk8546
@stevekirk8546 10 минут бұрын
I need to watch this video again - it really is startling how things can spiral out of control so quickly even in a well organised situation. Have to say your videos are superbly produced - the visuals certainly brought home how some of the confusion came about. I follow Ryan Farran (Missionary Bushpilot) who flies single handed in Papua New Guinea with very little technical back up. The striking thing is he briefs himself on every aspect of every flight he makes throughout the flight - he has to, as there is nobody else to help him out and he is very aware that in that terrain there is no room for complaceny. It is surprising that at times some commercial airline pilots, even experienced ones fail to do this. Perhaps the systems they operate under induce carelessness?
@eraaflow
@eraaflow Сағат бұрын
ah yes, just the video I needed to see a week before my booked Wizz Air flight
@leovanderzwan7986
@leovanderzwan7986 Сағат бұрын
My favorite Channel to Watch very informative and perfect to fall a sleep with. You got a calming voice
@asi411
@asi411 4 сағат бұрын
Man Mentour, you are a bloody legend at this, honestly, I hope you reach 10 million soon
@manuelperezruizdiaz9418
@manuelperezruizdiaz9418 Сағат бұрын
Peter how are you doing? Great video as always here it's a clearer example on how safety must be always the priority and follow standards and training procedures no matters the amount of experience you logged as well as the robust crm habits
@marceloanez100
@marceloanez100 3 сағат бұрын
Loved it! Really appreciate the tightened polished storytelling, from that earlier version you shared with us patreons! 👍🏼👍🏼The graphics and animations are so great!
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot Сағат бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@zeus866
@zeus866 Сағат бұрын
Hey @MentourPilot can you and your team make a video about PSA flight 1771 love your vids and that story would be very interesting
@MAJSav-xk7dp
@MAJSav-xk7dp 40 минут бұрын
I know there's a lot wrong with the film Sully but i did like the fact that they highlighted the startle issue, even if they did it by basically making things up re the NTSB investigation. I also love the way you constantly remind people of the way this industry operates: be honest, taking the training and get back on the horse. Its something i try to enforce in my workplace.
@fareedmasood
@fareedmasood 3 сағат бұрын
Dear Petter, always super excited to watch the newest of your episodes. Thanks again for more exciting and well- elaborated information. You and your team's hardwork is highly laudable...❤❤❤😊
@khalid7628
@khalid7628 28 минут бұрын
that jumpscare, for the first time, make me feel what it meant "warning alarms went off" "workloads", "things get escalated fast", In the cockpit. Much respect to pilots more than ever before
@peterloedden9716
@peterloedden9716 32 минут бұрын
Love your new, more detailed graphics to explain the flight procedures.
@michaelhancock1603
@michaelhancock1603 3 сағат бұрын
It never ceases to amaze me how you can so fully explain the intricate details of these accidents. Keep up the good work!
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 3 сағат бұрын
Great to hear that you find it helpful.
@michaelhancock1603
@michaelhancock1603 3 сағат бұрын
@@MentourPilot Back in another life, I was a military UH-60 Instructor Pilot. I was lucky enough to learn early on that accidents/incidents are rarely the cause of 'one thing' that went wrong. Thanks again!
@jeremejev
@jeremejev 2 сағат бұрын
Not associated with the aviation industry, but still a frequent flyer and fan of engineering in general. Dina videos är alltid riktigt informativa, riktigt skönt att se full analys från både ingenjör och humant perspektiv. Kör på!
@kobe211
@kobe211 3 сағат бұрын
Peter, will you ever cover the Germanwings catastrophe? This accident gave me nightmares for months. It was so bad that I developed a fear of flying, even though I was a frequent flier before. It got to the point where I needed help from a psychologist. The therapy helped me get back on a plane, but some fear always remained-until I found your channel! Now, I'm flying and enjoying it like I did before. I think I’m finally ready to hear your take on that catastrophe. Thanks!
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 3 сағат бұрын
That particular accident is very hard to cover for me. I prefer to cover accidents and incidents where there is a learning point.. but that story is just dark. It was a mass-suicide/murder with nothing positive to draw from.
@kobe211
@kobe211 3 сағат бұрын
@@MentourPilot make sense. Thanks for answering and keep up what you are doing. You helping a lot of people!
@volvo09
@volvo09 3 сағат бұрын
​@@MentourPilot I agree with your take on that, there is nothing to learn, it's just gruesome, sad, and frightening.
@asi411
@asi411 3 сағат бұрын
@@MentourPilothow about that bek air 2100 crash? That was surrounded in shady details
@Person01234
@Person01234 3 сағат бұрын
@@MentourPilot I wouldn't say that. The incident resulted in a slew of new rules implemented by airlines, although a lot of those have been rolled back by some now (including germanwings), presumably because they cost more. It's not like we didn't learn anything from it in terms of operations, we are simply ignoring the lessons (I'll leave it up to debate whether ignoring them is justified).
@jshoopes8305
@jshoopes8305 Сағат бұрын
Nice story telling by making it appear as though a fatal mistake was made only to be pulled out by an Airbus Togo lock I've not heard of before. Thanks for a great video and teaching me something new.
@losbopfos5637
@losbopfos5637 55 минут бұрын
My respect for this great example of the startle effect! It got me as intended.
@howdan1985
@howdan1985 6 минут бұрын
Captain Petter, Thank you for yet another absolutely fascinating air incident investigation video. I especially enjoy your European episodes like this one. 5*
@TheSimLord
@TheSimLord 4 сағат бұрын
thank you for your continued work on these aviation incidents which remind us of the complexity of this field
@Yatra-kj3zq
@Yatra-kj3zq 2 сағат бұрын
Thank you for this great informative video. I can't help but understand that even with the most experienced captain, he makes mistakes. Like the captain pulling up on the stick while the first officer is flying, instead of monitoring and telling the first officer to take action. Also during the terrain warning, the captain did not go through the memory items check list and not pay attention to applying the TOGA.
@shawnvenudas142
@shawnvenudas142 4 сағат бұрын
Your videos are super informative! Excellent job! I have learnt a lot about aviation through just your videos.
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 4 сағат бұрын
Glad you like them! My team and k are working hard to provide the best possible content for you guys!
@Aforeafore
@Aforeafore 32 минут бұрын
Congrats on 2M+ subscribers!!! And awesome video, as usual!
@michaelbuckers
@michaelbuckers 3 сағат бұрын
When I took a stab at designing an autopilot (for a computer flight simulation), it only took me until day 2 to implement a GPWS automatic terrain avoidance. It was an extremely simple system - the plane calculates ground clearance 15 seconds ahead and for every 30 feet below threshold it pitches up 1 degree on top of normal autopilot control or manual input. Even something this simple prevents CFIT and rectifies this exact kind of problem where the navpoint altitude is below ground. So I'm a little baffled that something similar didn't exist in real life airplanes. I mean, I can't possibly imagine any scenario in which GPWS alarm shouldn't automatically result in a terrain avoidance maneuver, vs simply warning the pilots about imminent crash and giving them the option to ignore it.
@tomstravels520
@tomstravels520 3 сағат бұрын
This would make landings in places like Paro, Split or Funchal next to impossible where these warnings can go off
@michaelbuckers
@michaelbuckers 2 сағат бұрын
@@tomstravels520 The alarm is suppressed during landing and takeoff. And even during landing and takeoff you're not exactly meant to intersect flight path with solid ground either way. Also I was kinda surprised that something as extremely rudimentary as what I threw together as a hobby in a few days was like 50% of the functionality of the real thing: altitude hold, heading hold, and autothrottle. My toy autopilot also had overspeed protection by pitching up and stall protection by pitching down - and that worked well enough in lieu of vertical speed rate. Funnily enough, the fact that I never implemented toggle for autothrottle was for the best, since it always ensured proper speed during climb or dive.
@tomstravels520
@tomstravels520 2 сағат бұрын
@@michaelbuckers I don't quite know what you're so surprised about as the airbus autopilot does all this. It can even fly a TCAS manoeuvre automatically. The only reason it doesn't autoclimb during terrain alerts is for the exact reason I said, you don't want a spurious warning happening during approach and landing into mountainous terrain. but you still want it to alert you to make sure you're not deviating from the flightpath, not be suppressed
@michaelbuckers
@michaelbuckers Сағат бұрын
@@tomstravels520 That's exactly what I'm surprised about, that a single hobbyist in less than a week can do a lot of the stuff Airbus does in more than a decade. Then again 95% of the work making an autopilot is figuring out edge cases for the given airplane, and the other 95% is calibrating it to the given airplane so it flies smoothly.
@tomstravels520
@tomstravels520 Сағат бұрын
@@michaelbuckers and you tested in on a computer from the last few years more than likely. The A320 uses computers chips from the early 80's.
@Zeesh009
@Zeesh009 10 минут бұрын
Amazing story! So much to learn here. Also respect to the channel creator 👍
@beansontoastxd420
@beansontoastxd420 4 сағат бұрын
It's always a good day when a new Mentour Pilot video releases, one of the very few KZbinrs I actually turn on upload notifications for.
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 4 сағат бұрын
Aww, that makes me very happy to hear!
@florind.5711
@florind.5711 3 сағат бұрын
Same, mister Peter has a way to continuosly keep your attention up during his videos. Alert tone and clean speech , the word "now" inserted in presentations adds and increases even more the attention.
@LorenzoBattilocchi
@LorenzoBattilocchi 3 сағат бұрын
Keep up the fantastic work Petter, as an aspiring pilot joining an academy in May 2025, i feel we can all learn from incidents like this one. Thanks for bringing them up and making them accessible to all enthusiasts!
@amarmams5125
@amarmams5125 2 сағат бұрын
Hello captn. Happy to see U back. One more absolutely wonderful video. From the Flighdeck before my last fly. Hope next video Petter. Fly Safe
@vlastimilmaselnik
@vlastimilmaselnik Сағат бұрын
I like how this channel consistently helps me with never flying ever again in my life. Thanks!
@KristopherNoronha
@KristopherNoronha 41 минут бұрын
After the number of times I've seen it on this channel I think even I can now do a terrain escape maneuvere! Pull up, autopilot off, TOGA thrust!
@invertigoupanddown
@invertigoupanddown 3 сағат бұрын
I really appreciate your video's, i love that you've got a committed team and especially love new videos on a sunday morning while i feink my coffee :)
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 3 сағат бұрын
I hope you enjoyed it!
@naswinger
@naswinger 3 сағат бұрын
WGS 84 is not a database, it's a coordinate system to project a 3d earth onto a 2d map
@bzipoli
@bzipoli Сағат бұрын
it's so weird how suddenly you realise how dependent some pilots are on the AP when stress kicks in. even with more mandatory AP off training on airbuses came around. and how they kinda "well it just works" not studying or understanding whats the phylosophy behind those systems and what they would do maybe it's time to implement APs like in fighter jets (it would just do the terrain manuever by itself in this case), but idk maybe this will make the problem even worst
@jozefsolski2085
@jozefsolski2085 Сағат бұрын
Fantastic video (standard here), excellent material for training (which really happens)!
@fatsacks70
@fatsacks70 3 сағат бұрын
Would love you to make a video of the Air NZ Mt Erebus crash of 1979. It’s an event that still divides opinions to this day.
@oliverlok554
@oliverlok554 2 сағат бұрын
I love the use of the Fenix and the L side stick calibration error haha. I had the same issue. I’ll explain the solution if needed :)
@stephengrimmer35
@stephengrimmer35 Сағат бұрын
It's amazing with almost universal accurate DTMs (digital terrain models) plus GPS that there isn't a cheap independent backup system beyond TCAS that warns if there is terrain ahead within 10 miles on the current heading/descent rate. The AA Colombia flight, AirInter Strassbourg, Crossair Zurich, and near CFITs of BA in Malaysia and AF in Cameroon come to mind.
@tomstravels520
@tomstravels520 Сағат бұрын
10 miles is an exaggeration. Many approaches into mountains airports would have the alarm blaring constantly if that was the case. If AA965 had EGPWS they would have likely avoided crash but they only had basic GPWS
@denverbraughler3948
@denverbraughler3948 3 сағат бұрын
First of all, the a/p should refuse to follow a course into terrain. Secondly, if the a/p is engaged, it should climb as required without having to be disengaged.
@jmp.t28b99
@jmp.t28b99 29 минут бұрын
Good explanation of what went wrong.
@rachmadsuhartono
@rachmadsuhartono 40 минут бұрын
I thought egpws only uses radar-like sensor bounced off terrain
@polarking888
@polarking888 3 сағат бұрын
Could you do a format of videos on the mentour now channel in which you talk about the history of specific aircraft manufacturing companies? Btw great video❤
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 3 сағат бұрын
We recently did a three-part series on Boeing. I've also covered a lot of Airbus' history in a NOW video about the A300, if you want to have a look!
@polarking888
@polarking888 2 сағат бұрын
​@@MentourPilotthanks for answering!❤
@tomriley5790
@tomriley5790 Сағат бұрын
Surprised the pilots didn't declare this as a pan pan/mayday..... I mean you nearly fly into a mountain and are well of track. Despite the loss of situational awareness the aircraft did successfully protect the pilots from stalling and pulled the aircraft away from the ground. Definitely think automatically moving throttles and tactile feedback from the sidestick would be a good idea though! Does show how important briefing the approach, adherence to CRM and good execution of memory items are (espeically with the startle effect - which I think is probably why the terrain escape manouvere was out of the blue.)
@popalexandruradu4702
@popalexandruradu4702 2 сағат бұрын
I was really waiting for a video with Wizzair as I am a frequent customer for them
@rickwhite4137
@rickwhite4137 Сағат бұрын
Congrat with +2 million followers. Well earned. Hopefully it will make 3 million soon.
@daniil9263
@daniil9263 Сағат бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="2006">33:26</a> Dear Editor, this one was genius!
@denverbraughler3948
@denverbraughler3948 4 сағат бұрын
Garbage in, garbage out.
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 4 сағат бұрын
Yes, both versions works
@TheCatLady65
@TheCatLady65 3 сағат бұрын
I read the sci-fi story about gigo many years ago. I can't remember who wrote it though. I'm old 😸
@SarahBoones13thLawyer
@SarahBoones13thLawyer 3 сағат бұрын
@@MentourPilot nope
@arifhossain9751
@arifhossain9751 3 сағат бұрын
@@SarahBoones13thLawyer Ah yes.... just "nope" with no explanation or counter. classic contrarian.
@thrillvilled111
@thrillvilled111 3 сағат бұрын
Reminded me of George Carlin
@Mani_theGoat7
@Mani_theGoat7 4 сағат бұрын
Can you make a video if the Air India Flight in Trichy? It happened yesterday and i would love to see a new video about it!
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 4 сағат бұрын
When a final report is out, we might feature it
@Mani_theGoat7
@Mani_theGoat7 3 сағат бұрын
Thanks mate, huge fan btw! Loved your United Airlines flight 1175 video and the Varig Flight video as well! Your videos are so entertaining! Hope to see your new videos man! ❤
@alternative_causation1970
@alternative_causation1970 3 сағат бұрын
I love it when these super informative videos have happy endings ❤
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 3 сағат бұрын
Me too!
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