“We Can’t Control the ENGINES!” The Nightmare of Cathay flight 780

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#Accidents happen for a variety of reasons but in almost every case, the root cause can be traced back to something very benign, a small mistake that someone made, sometimes weeks or even months before the accident. In this video about Cathay flight 780, this will be shown in a very clear light.
I hope you will enjoy this story, my team and I have worked hard on getting all the details explained as well as we possibly could!
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Below you will find the links to videos and sources used in this episode.
SOURCES
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Final Report:
www.cad.gov.hk/reports/2%20Fi...
Fuel Hydrant: aviationpros.com
www.aviationpros.com/gse/fuel...
Airbus Fuel: Airbus KZbin
www.youtube.com/@airbus/videos
Polaris Award: Business Wire
www.businesswire.com/news/hom...
Diapers: Pampers KZbin
• What Are Diapers Made ...
CHAPTERS
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00:00 - Intro
00:38 - Fuel
04:18 - Leaving Indonesia
06:13 - The Day Before
09:16 - Uplifting Fuel
13:23 - Getting Underway
17:20 - Strange Engine Readings
19:59 - Help From The Ground
23:20 - Not Good!
25:31 - Further Diagnosis
27:41 - From Bad To Worse
31:03 - Even More Issues
34:42 - Hard Impact
38:47 - The Aftermath
40:37 - Heroes All

[@MentourPilot]

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[@lukixzy6782]

Hello

[@kenanaltaf1575]

Great Vid ! btw could you do garuda indonesia flight 421 next ?? It's an amazing story, simply the sully of asia

[@abdelkadermehiz9407]

Hi there

[@abdelkadermehiz9407]

I'm on that group of 737 virtual training

[@stephaniefitzpatrick3912]

Lots of people have had terrible experiences with this company and the "therapists" that are supposed to help. The idea is great as mental health support needs to be more accessible but I strongly encourage you to do your own research as they don't seem like they are an ethical business.

[@catsfan2937]

All your videos are great, but the stories that end in "everybody survived amd the pilots later received medals for outstanding airmanship" are by far my favourite. Hearing about competent professionals dealing with these emergencies makes me feel much safer in the air!

[@werk62]

Same. I highly prefer the stories that do not end in tragedy. For me though, I've never been scared of flying, in fact I love it. I just don't like hearing about people dying.

[@TitaniumTurbine]

@@werk62 That’s fair, I’ll add that those tragedies, the ones where any passengers perished, are the most important for those in the aviation industry to learn from. In this day and age, it is unforgivable for a known defect to result in another tragedy and having history repeat itself. Considering that the last fatal domestic aviation incident in the US was in 2009 (not counting the international Asiana Airlines Flight 214 in 2013), I’d say that we’re doing a damn good job with this. I feel that we have done right by the combined thousands of people that perished in aviation incidents from the 50s to the 00s. Last year, Eastern Airlines Flight 401 finally got a memorial marker in Miami 50 years later. Now, it should never have taken that long to erect a memorial, but it shows that even after half a century, we do NOT forget the rocky past of aviation.

[@A-Milkdromeda-Laniakea-Hominid]

I rather enjoy the "What the hell were they thinking, oh, they weren't, they were stroking big egos" type of story. Much to learn from them, and the best rules came from those accidents. Sometimes not even an accident, one of my favorites is the two guys who overflew for an hour and landed to police with breathalyzers 😄

[@lonemaus562]

I may sound fucked up and horrible , but I like the stories where some people die.. I’m a pos sorry l know but it makes the story better and I like learning it more when there’s some sort of death.. if not no one really learns from mistakes and such

[@A-Milkdromeda-Laniakea-Hominid]

@@lonemaus562 You're not a pos. It's human nature, tragedy and high stakes (and the growth that comes from it) is part of life. People like stories of loss as long as something good comes from it. Titanic wasn't a huge hit because 1000 men women and children drowned, and it changed the world with every passenger requiring a seat in a lifeboat after that event. If everyone had been scooped from the water the story wouldn't have endured for a century.

[@jimseevers]

I think an incident episode in the reverse of your normal script could be a great way of showing what it feels like to be a pilot dealing with something completely unexpected. Meaning, begin with a description of what the pilot experienced without the context you normally provide. Afterwards, you fill the audience in on what was actually going on as you do so well. It would really serve to highlight how stressful and fast thinking issues are within the cockpit.

[@MentourPilot]

That’s a great idea

[@Bulldogg6404]

As someone who enjoys a good puzzle and mystery, I like this idea also!

[@ChintanPandya01]

I second this idea!

[@wondrinminstrel]

I really do believe that this would be the best approach.

[@Kenionatus]

​@@MentourPilotEspecially in situations with critical moments taking below one or two minutes, you could go through it in (close to) real time as the intro.

[@anonymous_jug]

I remember on my first flight, I was an unaccompanied minor, flying from Atlanta to Minneapolis. It already started great, because the captain gathered all the unaccompanied minors up before the flight and told us that he wanted us to be safe on the flight, so he wanted us right where all of the crew could monitor and help us out if we needed it, right at the front of the plane. I started having a panic attack because of some very small turbulence, and Austin, the flight attendant sat with me and explained in coherent detail, how the plane was made to withstand quite a bit of jostling around. Maybe he saw the Dr. Who TARDIS backpack stuffed with Percy Jackson books and sketchbooks and figured I was just as autistic as he is, but it really helped calm me down. He basically turned turbulence into a game for me to listen for what was bumping around instead of an absolute terror for me. It absolutely delights me to hear when flight personnel are awarded for their work. Because not all heroes wear capes, but these ones definitely fly.

[@megan530]

“Not all heroes wear capes but these ones definitely fly” - I love that - so true!! Especially in this story!

[@cobalt-6D]

If there's one thing I've learned from these videos, it's that the difference between a violent crash and a rough landing is almost always going to come down to the skills and decision making of the crew, not the technical problems that they're experiencing.

[@katjones4840]

….dang. Your right. 😮

[@FDXFilms]

I dont wanna be that guy but JAL 123...

[@cobalt-6D]

@@FDXFilms almost always, but not quite. Believe me, I know

[@Antagon666]

Yeah right, try landing a plane if a wing falls off 😂

[@FDXFilms]

@@Antagon666 A fighter pilot actually did that once, I saw it somewhere although I don't exactly remember where..

[@Republic3D]

The crew pretty much performed better than textbook, since the faults they were dealing with weren't even in the manuals. Awesome airmanship!

[@PanduPoluan]

Indeed! And every "improvisation" they did, was really 'inspired'.

[@robrob9050]

Nja, maybe they should climb and circle above airport, use all fuel, do dead stick landing and avoid all this unnecessary drama?

[@gaoxiaen1]

@@robrob9050When they might lose their only engine at any time? I think they did a fine job.

[@kadrikarakoc807]

@@robrob9050 so how can you guarantee the engine which refuses to reduce thrust won't go runaway and explode?

[@robrob9050]

@@kadrikarakoc807 have no clue, but forcing a/c to land is not nice way to land

[@christinegarrett7257]

Watching these videos has made me think about a flight that I was on in the mid-90s. As we were speeding down the runway to take off, the plane was shaking, similar to how a puddle jumper shakes in bad turbulence, and there were a high pitched metallic sound. I was worried because it just wasn't right. As we were about to get airborne (I could feel the beginning of the shift), the pilot slammed on the brakes and announced that there was a warning light on one of the instruments. He wasn't sure if it was serious or not but wanted to get it checked out. We went back to the gate and were there for a couple of hours. Most of the passengers groaned and complained. Some said that they'd never fly that airline again. For all I know, taking off could've been the final slice of Swiss cheese and, by aborting, the pilot stopped a disaster from happening. For his efforts, he got a lot of compaints. Seriously, I'd rather have a pilot who is more concerned about keeping the passengers and crew alive than getting them to their destination on time!

[@echo_soldier]

This is why "get-there-itis" is an issue. Pilots get put under so much pressure to just get the plane to the destination on time. Good judgement call from that pilot. The best case is that it was nothing, but the worst case is a serious issue. I'd want my pilot doing the same

[@Zombiesfromjupiter]

i wouldve sushed all my co-passengers honestly!! would you rather be two hours late or possibly have a serious emergency in the air?? smh, some people. 🙄 reminds me of ppl who go to the ER with non-serious issues and then whine about the wait time because more serious patients are seen first...

[@heat1235]

@@Zombiesfromjupiter but but but, i have to work tomorrow, i cant have a runny nose at work!!

[@tomriley5790]

Absolutely I'd much rather the pilot er on the side of safety.

[@aesaphyr]

I will honestly never understand passengers like that! I've been on flights where we boarded only to be told there are technical problems that need to be checked out first, and every single time there are people complaining about how it's unacceptable and they will fly a different airline next time. What would they prefer, to take off in a plane that then crashes??

[@a24396]

This was some of the best airmanship I've seen. At no point did they make a bad decision or miss a chance to try and solve their problem(s). I hope every crew behaves this way in the face of an incident because they definitely saved everyone with their skill and professionalism. Thanks for posting!

[@Korpenko]

There are still some things to say.. They rushed into an unprepared landing without assessing other possibilities. They didn't discuss the braking and stopping. Did they anticipate that the runway was long enough ? If they had landed on a runway that were too short (and when rushing at 230kt on the runway the landing distance varies how ? Especially with an engine that has remaining thrust.. It has to be thought about) the consequences could have been catastrophic. I would have discussed maneuvering the aircraft to reduce speed, while staying in range of the field if the engine would shut down. And/or to shut down the engine at a suitable time, for example at 300ft final to allow to reduce speed to a normal range.

[@jordank195]

@@Korpenko I think you're mistaken in thinking it is possible to manoeuvre the aircraft to kill speed while remaining in range to ditch if engine 1 died. The pilots would need to undergo a missed approach, and climb whilst heading in the opposite direction before attempting to loop back around to attempt to re-land. If engine 1 dies in the climb, they're screwed - they would not have enough speed or height to turn around whilst coasting. If engine 1 dies during the turn, they could still be screwed for similar reasons. But more importantly, and I quote the CAA report verbatim, "At that stage, there was no time for the flight crew to consider other strategy nor procedure to cope with such emergency situation. The flight crew concentrated on flying the aircraft for a safe landing." The pilots did an exemplary job. End of story.

[@janitorrio]

I'm not knowledgeable when it comes to aviation, but why did they not consider shutting their engine off and gliding down after they can confirm they have enough height to glide safely? Wouldn't it be safer?

[@mechaishida7588]

@@janitorrio I think this is covered at 28:55 - it appears they would have fallen short in a glide, with the engines both in idle.

[@DutchObserver]

@@mechaishida7588 Yes, that was initially. But at some time they would have been close enough, right? I've been wondering about that too.

[@pacigisto]

This was my first video where everybody survived, and I overjoyed when the plane started slowing on the runway. When competent pilots still can't manage to overcome their circumstances, it really breaks my heart. It was so relieving that this crew was successful.

[@lorenzocelata4107]

Production quality on this videos is getting incredibly high. Bravo to all the people involved, great work.

[@MentourPilot]

Glad you think so! I will pass that on to the team

[@marcellkovacs5452]

Agreed, the animations and the editing are top class

[@yegfreethinker]

Indeed very nice and smooth CGI and the textures are outstanding.

[@richdaley9982]

Very well done! I smiled a little when the animation showed the captain and FO looking at each other and nodding. That is such a nice detail.

[@SdH76zhEU]

@@richdaley9982 Arent the animations done wiith MS Flight Sim or some other flight sim.? However, they are very professional Videos and great expertise explanation! He's such a gentle guy, lucky scholars wich are instructed under him!

[@Uldihaa]

What impressed me most is how the captain and first officer were able to not just follow their checklists, but think outside of them. That's what I call nerves of steel.

[@CaptainRon1913]

There was no checklist to follow for this situation. They had no choice

[@kkmdew09]

It’s a sign of real airmanship.

[@thewhitefalcon8539]

Yes, I think this separates the good pilots from the great pilots. I remember one incident where a plane had a messed up ADIRU on the captain's side, but the computer diagnosed the fault as a different system, that used ADIRU data, but the captain's instruments were also messed up. The autopilot also did something bad because it was using the faulty data. A good pilot follows the checklist for whatever fault was a displayed, but a really great pilot, with excellent systems knowledge, might have realized the autopilot used the same data as his flight displays, and switched to the FO's autopilot only, or even thought to switch to the backup ADIRU.

[@mandowarrior123]

I'm not sure its nerves, it genuinely sounds FUN. Not the high chance of death part but the flying part. Surely pilots still have that little bit of thrill there i'm sure. Perhaps I'm mad, but once that runway was in sight it's just all skill. No more checklists. I don't think it's time for philosophical panic, but the time for passion.

[@Uldihaa]

@@mandowarrior123 You do comprehend that the only reason they survived this is because that one engine came back up, right?

[@richpolecat6527]

The bravery and skill of the crew is phenomenal. To attempt an approach at that speed was nothing short of heroic, and to actually execute the landing was something miraculous. This was the perfect ending, but not what I was expecting, as I feared for the worst. What an absolutely great episode, and with a happy ending. Thank you!

[@dannyb3663]

It always makes me beam when I hear about pilots who handle things this well. They saved 100s of lives.

[@rambysophistry1220]

"Everyone survived and the crew got medals." I really like it when accident stories conclude with that as a sufficient summary. Fantastic airmanship and superb use of skill and knowledge to take a dangerous situation and have everyone arrive as safely as reasonably achievable. And a well told story, thank you very much for the education and entertainment. Fantastic video as always.

[@Censeo]

I agree. The pilots made the right decisions serveral times and that is why no one died.

[@speakertomeat]

I always look for hints at the beginning, to know whether they survived or not so I can steel myself up. In this case the giveaway was the comments about the pilot noticing the fuel test being done, as this must've been in the pilot's report post accident.

[@catalepticdru]

Absolutely agree! Those medals were very well deserved. The pilots were both conscientious and professional.

[@bertram-raven]

Does anyone know if left engine and aircraft got a "boo boo, there there" sticking plaster? After all, it did hold together after a lot of abuse!

[@harryparsons2750]

@@speakertomeatsteel up? What does that even mean

[@elishmuel1976]

The system designs of the fuel truck, fuel pumps and Fuel Metering Unit were fascinating!

[@MentourPilot]

Glad you liked it!

[@justcommenting4981]

Well animated too.

[@chexlemeneux8790]

Almost anything with a diesel engine will have a similar setup. Since jet fuel is so similar to diesel it has the same issues. Particularly water and bacteria , the use of biodiesel has made bacteria growth alot worse . I saw something about Bio aviation fuel and I was a curious what measures they implemented to overcome bacteria growth. We run different / extra fuel filters and accelerated maintenence intervals for engines owned by companies that we know use biofuels.

[@JBotAlan]

There was another incident Petter covered where the maintenance folks mixed WAY too much antimicrobial stuff into the fuel and it caused major issues there too...just thought of this seeing your comment.

[@erubus5756]

@mentourpilot Only issue is that the fuel carts do not suck up the fuel from the hydrants. The underground fuel systems are fully pressurized already, the carts just open the valve, filter and moderate the flow into the aircraft. - retired CYYZ fueler

[@CarinaCoffee]

I flew Cathay Pacific FRA-HKG just a few months later. Best flight I've ever been on. There is a reason Cathay has such a good reputation. On my flight back one year later we were dealing with typhoons, but I felt safe with this airline, knowing how well versed they are with those weather conditions. Big probs for the pilots of this flight out of Indonesia!

[@roninsurvivor4640]

As a former Air Force mechanic these stories are thrilling and punctuates the dangers pilots and crew face on each flight. When that engine hit the runway I was sure there would be hot brakes!

[@katykross]

Thank you Petter, because of you I managed to overcome my crippling fear of flying and I just returned safely home to Sydney after a trip to Ireland. Again, thank you

[@MentourPilot]

That’s awesome to hear! I hope you had a nice flight

[@Zombiesfromjupiter]

great job!! hope you enjoyed your vacation ^^

[@goldenageofdinosaurs7192]

This is so awesome to hear! Congratulations, Katy🙂

[@katykross]

@@MentourPilot it was excellent. I even managed to sleep for a while. My crew were fantastic (BA) we had a bit of turbulence on way back (Equator I think) I didn’t like that few minutes but I didn’t freak out because of what I have watched on here . TY

[@RCShufty]

Once you fly enough the turbulence starts becoming more fun than scary (especially when you learn more about how safe commercial aviation is).

[@noeldinelli]

it's crazy how a flight that was going perfectly and without issues turned out to be a near disaster. The crew did an amazing job

[@TheExileFox]

It reminds me of the "Toyota stuck gas pedal" problem

[@Michael-db4sn]

The crew said not today and executed brilliantly. Stellar performance by utmost professionals

[@RyanBlackhawke]

As someone who was a nervous flier every since a colleague died in the Alaska 261 crash, these detailed stories about airplane mishaps where everyone survived because of the technology or pilots and cabin crews just reinforce my new attitude of being able to be relatively calm during a flight.

[@maxcsw5809]

I love videos like this. I have no idea why, but it honestly made me cry at 35:25, hearing you build up just how many issues there were, just how many problems they were having, the alarms and warnings blaring in the cockpit, and those two heroes just carried on, laser focused on their objectives, did not let anything phase them. Humans can be pretty fucking awesome when they want to be. Maybe it makes me emotional because I know deep down there's no way I could ever manage to do something so truly incredible.

[@RavenMobile]

I got tears in my eyes near the end of this, both from the pilots stoicism, and from thinking deeply about what it must have been like for the crew and people onboard knowing something weird is going on, but not knowing exactly what. I can't imagine how nervous people must have been seeing one of the crew looking out the windows at the engines! That's gonna freak out most people.

[@p_booth_fan]

The levels of engineering associated the brakes and wheels on aircraft is seriously under appreciated I feel. Double the landing speed and still stops over 300m from the end of the runway. Impressive.

[@999Tidus]

and that with barely even one engine on reverse thrust. Really goes to show that having such high tolerance in engineering does come into play in certain scenarios.

[@greggoog7559]

They did catch fire though 😄

[@philhawley1219]

@@greggoog7559 Only after the plane had stopped and the fire engines were on the scene. That shows the brakes were up to the job.

[@jaroslavsevcik3421]

@@greggoog7559 while you are flying fire is a serious threat for you. But once you have landed, fire is suddenly not that big threat. 😊

[@johanssonb]

@@greggoog7559 There simply is no way they wouldn't under such an extreme braking event. Just search "aircraft brake test" and see; the temperatures they reach in a situation like that are mindblowing.

[@kamya7104]

My only wish in life is to board a plane captained by the legend, Mentour Pilot himself.

[@MentourPilot]

You never know when it happens! 💕✈️

[@kamya7104]

@@MentourPilot oh my god thank-you for the reply sir. And yes!

[@Jjengering]

Youll need to catch a ryanair flight, operating from girona.

[@alisonlilley3039]

Trouble is…I’d want to be up on the flight deck, hearing him explain everything….as if he needs that on a busy day 😂😂 (apart from the fact us ‘civvies’ can’t go there). But at least I’d know I was so VERY safe ❤😊

[@alisonlilley3039]

As an after thought…Petter’s videos really are fantastic - the logical story telling interspersed with the tech info needed, the digital work continues to excel, and his enthusiasm and positivity is infectious. I loved the few times we got to meet his lovely wife - thank you for sharing your life with us 😊

[@TheWarThunderEnjoyer]

Previously I had never know about fuel contamination but now after only 40 minutes I have learn so much in such a fun way.Keep up the work Peter.

[@beckyb8753]

This is by far one of my favourite videos! The pilots of this flight were outstanding. In the face of everything so much could have gone wrong yet they were calm, collected and professional throughout. Just incredible. I am so glad to hear they were rewarded for their efforts!

[@Packbat]

This is, without a question, the best coverage of this accident I could find. Even for a non-pilot like myself, you covered the full course of events with clarity and detail - I was on the edge of my seat. Thank you all for the hard work!

[@GardenGuy1943]

I agree. My condolences to the families.

[@wooshbait36]

​@@GardenGuy1943Thanks for spoilers

[@GardenGuy1943]

@@wooshbait36 no one makes it.

[@FLPhotoCatcher]

"Spoiler alert, spoiler alert! Don't look down! Pull up, pull up!

[@HouseholdDog]

My legs are cramped from pushing on that brake.

[@lukasgraesslin]

I already mentioned it a while ago (I'm not commenting often) but the production value of these videos has become crazy good. Especially all the effort that goes into those flight simulator filmed scenes must be insane. Reiterate the flight in the simulator (with having the right airplane, livery, scenery in place), recording all the scenes numerous times from all the different angles, having the correct states and messages on the PFD, ND, ECAM for the cockpit scenes, etc and everything in that really cinematic look. Not to distract of course from all the effort that goes into researching and writing the script as well. Kudos!

[@thewhitefalcon8539]

I liked the slight camera shake whenever the plane zooms by it outside.

[@stefantatic4836]

Awesome comment. To add, as a long time fan, I'd totally love one "how it's made" episode. 😊 Keep up the great work!

[@simonbrunner3062]

The scripts alone have gotten so good at building suspense and telling a captivating story! I really noticed that on one of the recent videos, about an incident where the accident sequence was started by the FO touching a wrong button or lever with his wristwatch. I don't even remember exactly what button it was, but I do remember that in the beginning of the story, Petter had included an innocuous scene where the FO checked the time on his nice and heavy expensive wristwatch during the pre-flight preparations. In screenwriting, that is known as "Chekov's gun" - an object that is introduced early on in an inconspicious way and returns much later to become highly relevant to the story (think of weapons or gadgets that are shown early in an action movie and then get used by the hero in the climax for a winning blow against the villain). It is often used by screenwriters to foreshadow later events in the movie early on, or to make sure that when a device is used to disrupt the course of the movie (e.g. to turn the tide in the climactic battle), it doesn't feel like it comes out of nowhere and the audience doesn't feel cheated. It's remarkable that Petter uses screenwriting techniques like this these days.

[@Kunfucious577]

Yeah it really has. I have a few KZbinrs I’ve followed from the beginning and it’s crazy how much better they get. It’s good to see it. Not that it matters but I get proud of them.

[@berrodude]

It's likely a single flight recording with multiple camera options and a screen cap. Sort of like racing game replays. Not to take anything away from it. It's still brilliant and well executed..

[@Iesous27]

Jeez, considering no one had any idea what the heck was going on and they managed to land (mildly safely) is a testament to the great training and professionalism of these pilots. Damn well deserved of those medals.

[@yeswellnomaybe]

What a great story, told with such detail and great visuals. As an engineer, I have huge respect for professional pilots and how they span their situational abilities to execute so predictably and reliably under life & death situations through to having a pretty technical understanding of the machines they operate which are closer to my own domain.

[@philipwhiuk]

You gotta credit the layered safety systems that were left - the flaps 2 relief position working correctly to allow for max drag, the APU, the RAT, the wheels surviving impact at twice the rated speed, the engine cowl surviving contact with the tarmac. Plus the long runway and the firefighters of the airport of course.

[@juliac280]

I got into your videos about a year and a half ago, it was a few months before my father passed away at the age of 87. He was a Lt Col in the Korean Air Force. He was the most disciplined, meticulous, and honest man i have ever known. I wish i could've shared your videos with him, as he would've thoroughly enjoyed them! He is a hero to me, much like these pilots were heroes on this flight!! ❤️

[@MentourPilot]

Sorry for your loss, he sounds like a great man.

[@juliac280]

@@MentourPilot Thank you! Your videos help very much!!

[@dtaylor10chuckufarle]

May God bless both of you.

[@F_Tim1961]

Pilots get to be Old by not being Bold but rather instead meticulous. 🙂 Tim Fidler former glider and light plane jock. NzL

[@Habu12]

I worked next to the RKAF for almost a year. All great men and women. I’m sure your father was great guy! I thank him for his service!

[@jackem8922]

Masterful story-telling at its best. I was on the edge of my seat for the whole of the clip! The explanation of the background to the issue, the realistic clips from MSFS 2020 interspersed at just the right moments, the presentation of symptoms in the chronological order that the crew experienced them, with 'sidebar' explanations of the various mechanical systems all make for a highly compelling video. Superb work.

[@pauleff3312]

Unquestionable this guy is a fantastic storyteller - he should be on the BBC doing voiceovers

[@One_over_the_eight]

​@@pauleff3312Mentour Pilot should stay exactly doing what he does best as no-one should be subjected to the BBC's tripe. Their narrative would change the story completely. You'd end up with two non-white, lesbian pilots with five adopted children from Africa on a mercy flight to Gatwick to attend Brighton's gay pride. No thanks.

[@pauleff3312]

@@One_over_the_eight lol

[@Warsign01]

Just WOW, those pilots were top shelf. It's amazing how some people are able to maintain under this kind of pressure.

[@idahoairplanes1235]

By far your best work. I’m a retired GE Aviation Executive and this root cause analysis is deep and meaningful. The crew were pros, the root cause obscure and confounded. You elevated crew knowledge of systems and airmanship as the savior of hundreds of souls. It’s a case study in how think critically and act meaningfully.

[@dtrjones]

I'm not sure an enthusiast KZbinr has done any root cause analysis here. What he has done is provide an excellent articulated reprisal of events based on documented evidence and his own understanding in the field. Any attempt at analysis on the KZbinr part without having direct access to equipment, personal etc would have been speculation and highly likely would have resulted in miss-information.

[@kevinoshea9125]

Tree sap?

[@cannaroe1213]

@@dtrjones woulda got more views though

[@malcolmwhite6588]

@@dtrjones He’s not an enthusiast KZbinr he is an ATPL - a professional pilot and a flight instructor with an airline

[@dtrjones]

Yes @@malcolmwhite6588 exactly the point I'm making. Root cause analysis can only be done by the CAA investigative teams or equivilent. The role this guy has is journalistic - using public domain articles and inside industry knowledge, that's completely different to root cause analysis, sorry it's symantics but important distinction.. Please don't think I'm taking anything away from the video which waa superb and inside industry knowledge and thorough research gave fantastic context.

[@dannybell926]

Im glad to hear that the pilots were recognized and awarded for their unwavering decisive actions and professionalism to get this flight safely on the ground.

[@saxrulez]

I can't imagine the frustration of trying to maintain energy with no engines to ending up with an engine stuck at 74% N1. Great job by the pilots and great complete story telling @MentourPilot

[@rudi9403]

I have been watching Air Crash Investigations since my early teens in the beginning of 2010's. Last year's season was the first I completely skipped because of how different the accidents are explained. Your breakdown of Air France 447 fundamentally changed they way I understood that accident. Thank you for your contributions and helping people of all backgrounds understand avaition a bit more.

[@MentourPilot]

That’s so nice to hear! Thank you for being here and supporting the channel!

[@freeculture]

I also stopped watching those after a couple of captain youtubers got it here much better. Ironically i don't have cable or tv anything so i watched those using youtube in the past, but not anymore. I rather get the case explained here instead, less drama and goes to the point very well explained. TV is obsolete.

[@warden330]

I actually came to these from a different direction, from reading accident investigation reports because of the careful and detached way in which they analyse what happened and the lessons to be learnt. But they cannot match the explanation and illustrations which this channel offers.

[@mityaboy4639]

What i like about this story is that the crew kept communicating and remained focused on the problem without artificially increasing stress by injecting their fear into the conversation. And that they kept the cabin crew also informed and ready. which means the pilots had capacity to think about the job of the rest of the crew rather than being all consumed by the workload they were under. especially when they figured out that they cant even glide to the airport (before engine one decided to rejoin)

[@simon1italy]

It is always so satisfying to hear that a crew acted professionally through the entire problem and managed to save everyone

[@CarinaCoffee]

Petter's narration is always keeping me on the edge of my seat, but the added visual simulation takes this to another level. When the captain applied manual breaks and the entire cabin simulation shuddered, well that was like I was right there with the flight crew. It reminded me of the emergency breaking we had to do in driving school, where you have to come to a complete stop from 40 or 50 km/h.

[@craigroberson8757]

The Captain of this flight did an incredible job in this flight. Both pilots worked together along with cabin crew keeping the passengers calm. The interviews with the pilots following the flight and recognition was of gratitude but saw it as nothing more than any pilot would do. Great team work from start to finish.

[@raven4k998]

we can't control the engines is like a moment

[@srednivashtar5432]

A crew of highly skilled, able and true professionals. The passengers of Cathy Pacific 780 were lucky the gods of crew rostering were smiling on them that day.

[@NicolaW72]

Indeed.

[@MeppyMan]

When you see the actual footage of the landing with the details provided in this video, it's even more amazing. The bounce could have gone badly. They did an incredible job. Also shows how incredibly robust these aircraft are, even landing at double the normal speed like that.

[@KristianRobertsen]

The pilot and first mate nodding to empty seats had me rolling.

[@allanwrobel6607]

You're a great story teller, a rare talent. Retired just three months back and find myselg bingwatching this channel.

[@NeverlandSystemZor]

That this crew landed safely is an AMAZING accomplishment and testament to how great their training was. Absolutely STELLAR work to save their passengers.

[@aserta]

The airplane too. The landing video from the runway is online, it's nuts. They slammed that Airbus like it was a hot pancake.

[@maearcher4721]

Also testament to their proffesionality. Sometimes training isn't enough.

[@ianhinson2829]

Australian pilots. That figures. 😁

[@malcolmwhite6588]

@@ianhinson2829 Aussies are pretty chill and that’s coming from a New Zealander we are now on as being a pretty relaxed people and the Aussies make us look frantic LOL takes a lot of stress out and Australian

[@si_vis_amari_ama]

@@ianhinson2829 Thank you RAAF and ? Qantas.

[@Indiskret1]

To me, this is the best and most emotional episode you've done so far, and that in itself is the highest possible praise. Perfect narration and what real life heroes the pilots Malcolm and David turned out to be! If I were the passenger on this plane, I would've sent them birthday presents for the rest of my life. I was anxious, feeling deep fear, crying and cheering them on and then laughing with tears in my eyes when the Airbus finally came to a full stop. One of the most emotionally exhausting 42 minutes in my life. No need for movie channels when we have KZbin with Mentour Pilot. Thanks again Petter for all work you put into this channel, we are truly spoilt.

[@MentourPilot]

Awesome! I am so happy you liked it and thank you for your support!

[@frequencywatchers]

Go Go, Go Deeper Then Anyone Else@@MentourPilot

[@wooshbait36]

Relax kids, they are not heroes, they are just pilots that push a few buttons. Nowadays even riding a bike is harder than an airplane.

[@VulcanicYT]

@@wooshbait36bro😂 I wanna see you fly a Cessna before you even come close to hating on airbus pilots. Imagine being responsible over 310 lives. That’s as many kg fat you got if you can’t even ride a bike😂😂

[@shellderp]

@@wooshbait36 you are a joke

[@StevieJayGamez]

They also received: The Hugh Gordon-Burge Memorial Award: “The Honourable Company of Air Pilots incorporating Air Navigators Oct 2014 Awarded to a member or members of a crew whose outstanding behaviour and action contributed to the saving of their aircraft or passengers.” Outstanding work gentlemen.

[@PuddingXXL]

The biggest difference to shows like Mayday is that you also showcase crisis situations that were solved without harm done. Brings a great deal of trust to the passengers especially those struggling with flight phobia. Knowing that pilots can save even the most dire situation instills an lmaost blussfully ignorant attitude towards flying which I greatly appreciate as a passenger ^^

[@Whitefireclubbi]

Pilots are another breed of Humans. These videos are always bringing up some tears because i cant get how professional and precise these guys and girls are even under this pressure. One little mistake and all of the 322 people were gone

[@docvolt5214]

I'm an industrial automation engineer, these videos help me remember that nothing is impossible.. Nothing bad that's it.. Gotta consider the impossible too... Jesus christ that filter SAP thing is insane

[@LordOfSweden]

Engineers you're the real MVP:s

[@davidelliott5843]

Never assume everything necessary has been done before your job gets started. A few pre start checks often show up gaps or issues.

[@tareginda]

Omgosh I start tearing up at landing. Seriously in awe at each crew actions and to stay calm at such stressful environment. Thank you for such informative storytelling and animation.

[@davepirtle9790]

I saw in another comment the saying "think critically and act meanfully". Wow thats a perfect way to describe the best way to troubleshoot. These videos are super high quality and always have me on the edge of . my seat! Well done Mentaur pilot!

[@LovesGrilling]

These pilots are ABSOLUTE HEROES. I HAVE CHILLS AT THE PILOTS PERFORMANCE. Incredible decisionmaking. Edit. I wrote that before the end scene where you mentioned they received the award. They deserve it!

[@SteveDawgNZ]

It's hard to explain, but I get an intense wave of positive emotions when I heard about a whole team of professionals excelling in their roles and working together. It's so strong I get close to crying. I got that several times through this video when you described the two pilots working the problem together, and the communications between the flight & cabin crews and the flight crew & ATC.

[@anna_in_aotearoa3166]

Agreed!! It's like they're demonstrating the platonic ideal of what professionalism and cooperation is. Inspirational and aspirational for us in our own endeavors, whatever those may be!

[@nosalis]

amazing to see such a professional crew handling a terrifying situation , well done! and great video - as always!

[@infinitymemez3731]

this has to be one of the most detailed accounts of an aviation incident i’ve watched on youtube, i love it! i’ll definitely be watching more of your videos

[@foreverkurome]

Hi owner of Mentour Pilot. Hopefully you see this message but it isn't a problem if you do not. Thought it made sense to remind you of the type of positive impacts your channel has. We are currently in Spain, this is the first time my mother has ever been to another country. As I understand it she was terrified of the thought of flying. I started watching your channel like mid way through final year of university and liked to talk to my parents about the videos, specifically those looking at the various systems on board an aircraft. As a result of those videos my mother is now completely comfortable with flying. So my thanks to you and your channel for providing me that content in an easily understandable format. It allowed me to explain to her how safe an aircraft actually is thanks to these systems and what about those systems makes it that safe. This is one of the reasons why you have the subscriber count you do. May that count continue to grow for years to come. 😎

[@marlonsukura530]

As an aspiring pilot, this guy is a true mentor. Bro, you are a beast.

[@Jolle187]

This was an amazing watch. I had not heard of this incident and had no clue about the outcome. When the second engine failed I was so engaged my heart was racing like I was watching a blockbuster thriller. Excellent storytelling! Bravo!

[@frankdepellette]

Good grief. How well handled by the Captain and the cabin crew.

[@charlottelanvin7095]

Every time I have flown Cathay I have been impressed by the crews' professionalism and the service. Some of the planes are ageing, but I have always had full confidence in the people. Great airline!

[@davidbrayshaw3529]

I had the great honour of sitting in the right hand seat of a Captain Scott Thomson's personal light aircraft, several years ago. He was a Cathay 777 captain at the time. Despite not being a pilot myself, I've had a bit of experience in light aircraft, enough at least to know how utterly professional that Scott was at the controls of his own aircraft. And that was only with three on board. He left absolutely nothing to chance. Despite my lack of qualification, at every point of the flight he had me confirm instrument readings, bearings, landing gear status etc. And he had a plan A, B, C, E and E, for every eventuality, which he vocalised prior to take off. To top it off, he performed the most stunning cross wind landing on a very short unsealed runway. A true consummate professional. If that's the sort of pilot that Cathay employs, I can assure you that you are in very good hands.

[@TJ-bd5iq]

Wow I can’t believe this made me tear up. Just that feeling of fulfillment to know you’ve commanded a damaged aircraft and saved people’s lives.

[@oneflyguy1949]

This crew was amazing and kept their cool under a extremely stressful situation

[@tombell7455]

I am no pilot nor have any knowledge of aircraft design or operations, but you explained everything perfectly in layman's terms. Thank you very much. You truly kept me glued to my seat the entire video. I'm glad to hear there were no serious injuries.

[@jonhu4127]

That entire crew were heroes that day. Even though the flight crew probably didn't receive the same accolades, their jobs had to have been equally difficult. Great job by the pilots working through the stress and by the cabin crew to get everyone off the plane alive with minimal injuries. Gotta love hearing that this incident ended with everyone walking away, new procedures from lessons learned, and recognition for the gentlemen in the cockpit that day

[@miked51]

What an incredible event! These pilots basically became test pilots for a never before seen situation. They just rewrote the manual and brought about new safety measures while protecting 300 people and getting the plane down safely. Just incredible airmanship.

[@CaptainRon1913]

The pilots didn't re-write anything. Airbus engineers did

[@Gun-AK47-Gun]

I just discovered you on KZbin today and few videos in and I’m hooked. I shared your KZbin channel with my brother and he tells me “I watch him on my tablet every night “ lol

[@perrottarober]

I just found this channel, never had an interest in this genre and now I'm freaking hooked haha. Been binge watching all your old stuff. You're very talented in breaking things down so that lay persons can understand what you're talking about without dumbing it down so much its no longer consumable. But I will say these videos most definitely have me questioning if I'll ever fly again.

[@zfs06]

I've become a big fan of this unique channel recently. Just prepared my dose of afternoon coffee; perfect timing for this new episode. Thanks Petter for your dedication and hard work. All the best.

[@MentourPilot]

Thank you for your support and kind words! Enjoy your coffee

[@redyau_]

I have enormous respect for the people who investigate and put together these final reports. You mention often that after smaller fault indications the root cause is not found - but much later, somehow someone puts it together. It's easy to take the truth for granted, but somebody actually had to find out about it, and that's no small feat!

[@aaronseet2738]

That's why I like series like National Geographic *Air Crash Investigation* ; the narrative is told from the _investigators' perspective_ , how they use their intellect and experience to drive their thought process to infer from what little (or rarely hefty) clues left behind to unravel the mysteries and causes.

[@maxb.5905]

This must have been one of the most stressful videos that I've ever watched. Great narration and god was I relieved when I heard that everyone was alright considering this situation. Cudos to those pilots!

[@steve66oh]

BRAVO to the pilots and flight crew! And, thank you, @MentourPilot for a story with a happy ending!

[@Purplexity-ww8nb]

I hope everyone can appreciate the superior production value of your videos. Well done, sir.

[@MentourPilot]

Glad you like them! 💕

[@basta118]

Now this is a real thriller! I'm talking about filming, plot development, narration, visual effects and, of course, the technical background. I especially liked how weather information is highlighted with green as Petter pronounce it! This is a truly masterpiece! Way to go, Mentour Pilot Team! 👏👏👏

[@chrisdanmorris88]

I’ve always enjoyed watching Air Crash Investigation (Mayday) but your videos are a step above. No needless meandering or narrative for narrative’s sake - just the pure facts with way more technical insights. Absolutely fantastic

[@patrolpilot3756]

Pilots life. Years of boredom punctuated by moments of terror. These pilots did an amazing job.

[@maudessen573]

The high level explanation of the fuel delivery system on this Airbus is incredibly helpful. Thank you for your attention to detail. This was fascinating as well as horrifying.

[@MentourPilot]

Glad it was helpful! This is how we try to differentiate ourselves from other accident channels

[@maudessen573]

@@MentourPilot Success!

[@imdawolfman2698]

Regular applause for the pilots. Around 1999 I developed a relationship with A Bulgarian woman and flew pretty regularly from SFO. The last leg of the flight was from some random EU city where I would fly Balkan Airlines, if I could. I loved it, they served the rich Bulgarian red wine and native foods, it was like extending my time in that lovely country. It was also the last airline to allow smoking and there was an ashtray at each seat. I don't remember the type of plane, but it was an old Russian one, and it felt a little shaky, especially on approach and landing. Everyone would sit up straight and grip the arm rests until the plane settled into its roll on the runway, then everyone would applaud the pilots for a wonderful safe landing. I loved this quaint, spontaneous and heartfelt appreciation for the pilots.

[@MrTmm97]

Listening to you say they were landing at twice the usual speed and describing that whole landing sequence gave me anxiety honestly like none of your videos ever had. I’m super glad the plane was able to make it down safely and no one was seriously hurt. This truly was a miracle and the crew did amazing under insanely stressful conditions. Pushing the landing knowing how fast they were going took some serious commitment. The airport personnel and fire personnel did great too… for them to be ready and following the plane down the runway just after it landed being ready for the fire was great to hear. Amazing video as usual!

[@jasonmaennling9326]

I totally agree.

[@bertchiu9265]

Indeed that was an INTENSE landing at those speeds … surprised the plane didn’t break in half when slamming into the runway that hard!!

[@maxverschuren6858]

Yeah well the fire brigade could've started cooling the brakes precautionary a well, before the fire broke out. But other than that, well done.

[@suryannandan4375]

The way he explained and the graphics was ultimate.... I literally got goosebumps

[@mssixty3426]

​@@maxverschuren6858 I've seen a video that explains the reasoning behind not cooling the brakes down is because it can cause the brake assembly to shatter, which is more hazardous, as the flying metal shards can rupture the fuel tanks - leading to an explosive situation. Sorry, I don't remember if it was on one of Pettar's channels or one other one I watch.

[@Evelynlouise089]

What a team! I’ve only just started watching your videos and this is the 1st one I’ve watched where everyone survived. I was on the edge of my seat thinking it was all going to be over any minute. So happy everyone survived. I swear watching your videos gives me the same feeling of watching a blockbuster thriller!

[@joequinal]

Wonderful story telling, Petter! Glad they got the bird down in a safe and professional manner.

[@TazerXI]

Seeing the professional nature of the pilots in these situations is always impressive to see, and a true inspiration for dealing with situations under stress. Especially when your situations changes from having no engines, to having one that won't calm down. Truly a sight to behold

[@Zombiesfromjupiter]

absolutely!! they went from one problem to the next with what seems like nerves of steel. truly commendable to get a nearly out of control plane on the ground with only some damage to the brakes!

[@ShenLong991]

tbf. I may get overwhelmed by the situation and the many error messages where i try to connect some dots at how it may come together and what may be the cause. So... i rather stay in the cabin than becoming a pilot. What i thought, i may do at some time.

[@rolfdenver]

The professionalism of your videos is outstanding. I’m not a pilot but am subscribing … and recommending your channel to my pilot friends. You’re doing a great public service. Thank you!

[@ivanblakely903]

excellent telling of the story and the reasons. made me think of the QF32 situation and the captain's decision to not evacuate even when the brakes were white hot and fuel was leaking from the wing, while the fire services held back because an engine was still running full power. Ultimately that was the right decision and saved any passenger injuries.

[@MikeRees]

This incident actually helped me choose Cathay Pacific when I was first looking to travel to Asia. When even a novel incident can't best a well trained crew, it really helps to put passengers at ease.

[@hyg07]

Yeah but both the capt and first officer no longer works for thar company😂😂😂

[@stwartic4296]

This episode was so good. It's the type of episode that relieves the fear of flying more. From the professionalism of the cabin crew, and the stellar expertise of the pilots, to the amazing design of plane to try and avert disaster as much as possible. It's all just breathtaking. Once again, thank you Mentour pilot for another amazing episode! I've actually fell in love with aviation just from watching this channel.

[@thewhitefalcon8539]

I think most of them are like this. As a new flyer you're afraid the plane will just explode, or fall out of the sky, and what's that bad sounding noise around the wings (it's the flap mechanism on certain planes). Then you learn planes don't explode or fall out of the sky.

[@FlyingNerd2010]

Beautiful airmanship by the crew. It is very impressive that they kept their cool even through the dual engine stall and overspeed.

[@handyvickers]

Brilliant production, probably your best so far.. And with just enough technical detail to make it easy to understand; not too much detail which could turn off many viewers. Hats off, Petter! Keep it coming, we love it!

[@FirstLast-yh5vc]

Hats off to the pilots! That was an insanely difficult situation, but they handled it perfectly.

[@brianwest2775]

It's so very good to hear a story where the crew do an outstanding job.

[@mso2802]

This is one of the best episodes of Mentour Pilot I've ever watched - the technical details are superb AS ALWAYS! The cherry on the proverbial cake is the happy ending - a disastrous scenario excellently managed by the 2 Pilots (and the crew). Great one!!

[@GraemePayne1967Marine]

Thanks! As a non-aviator but having been around aviation all my life, this type of content facinates me. Add that to my work on quality assurance and your content is a winner for me.

[@MentourPilot]

Thank you so much! That means a lot to hear!

[@rmadridista369]

Damn I always wanted to know what actually was going on with this flight since I've seen it many time on the Smithsonian channel. He is really reading my mind of which accident/incident to explain. Thanks for all your works Petter👍

[@MentourPilot]

Thank you! We do what little mind-reading we can 😂 I hope you will enjoy it!

[@pablorubio8287]

mentour along with green dot are the best channels for air accidents & incidents

[@victoriaz14]

disaster breakdown is really great as well!

[@pablorubio8287]

@@victoriaz14 yep!

[@pyrolegend1703]

​@@MentourPilothey man, can you do a video on adam air 574, I really love your videos and I would love to hear your take on this infamous flight

[@ExMachina70]

i love just how valuable the first officer can be in these types of situations giving his own expert opinion on possible ways to either alleviate or solve the problem.

[@hyzenthlay7151]

Excellent crew, very professional, keeping calm at all times and working the problem as a team. This is how all crews should be.

[@FeatheredWingz]

Wow, that could have ended on a more tragic note. It's good to hear that the pilots were formally recognized for how well they managed the emergency. That cabin crew sounds top-notch too!

[@josephabbey7948]

I cheered loudly when you said the aircraft came to a stop. Literally had to leave what I was doing to comment. That was some damn good flying from the pilots. I admire their professionalism

[@user-rc9jf8ng2k]

Probably would have called the MADAY when the two errors that appeared preceding an engine stall on the second engine were shown to be happening to your only other engine, not when both engines stalled.

[@VegaTheLyra]

This is one of my favourite crash breakdowns of yours! Props to everyone who worked on this video!

[@ulf5738]

The landing was a tense moment even for me just watching it in a virtual playback. Fantastic performance of the crew. Great work by the channel team 😊

[@fahadahmad8408]

the animation of the landing part gave me goosebumps, the angles and the special effects were just amazing