MEP 802A MEP 803A Remote Start Kit

[@TheAkstewie]

Your a great dude to deal with! Very knowledgeable guy right here!!!

[@xlandscaper]

Excellent video. Love everything about these gen sets . Took the guesswork out of it. I've been eyeballing it for a while

[@robertclemson7874]

Have not decded on purchasing your kit but it looks to be the best as in layout and completeness. Your video really explains the system well.

[@kurtklopp4172]

If you have any questions about the kit just let me know.

[@kurtklopp4172]

Glance you enjoyed it. I also have the same system available for the MEP-831A now and one for the MEP-804A by the end of the year.

[@danlibby6810]

Looks fantastic. Can the controller connect to my existing wifi router so it is not necessary change wifi connection in order to access it over the network? Or can it be connected to router via cat5? I would like it to be available on my existing subnet, and also generator is too far for wifi signal from inside my house, but I do have a remote wifi router near the gen.

[@kurtklopp4172]

Dan, There is not Cat5 connectivity to the Controller. However I could easily change the Controllers firmware to have it connect up to your WiFi router near your generator. I'd just need to change the firmware and add your remote routers SSID & Password prior to shipping one to you.

[@danlibby6810]

Thanks Kurt. I just realized this is only for 802a/803a. Do you by any chance make one for mep-002a or plan to? I've seen another board, but it doesn't have all the fancy wifi stuff that yours does.

[@kurtklopp4172]

@@danlibby6810 Dan, At the moment I do not have plans to develop one for the -002/-003's at this time. Working on other new products for the MEP's at the present time. Other products already available are a MEP-831A Remote Start, MEP-831A Battery Chargers, MEP-831A Replacement Governor Controllers. Products in development is a MEP-804A/B Remote Start & a Governor Controller to support MEP-831A PMA & Inverter replacements.

[@Johnny0005]

@@kurtklopp4172 This is excellent. I would like to get one programmed to log onto my existing Wi-Fi so that I can then use my phone or tablet anywhere in my house to connect to the generator app. Where is the best place to get this from you, with ordering it with my Wi-Fi credentials sent to you? Thank you!

[@kurtklopp4172]

@@Johnny0005 The controller is now available in WiFi Station Mode or Access Point mode. To order goto the Steel Soldiers forum Classifieds Section Parts for Sale topic. Search Remote Start.

[@jaimem3466]

Would be awsome if you would add a lan port. That way i could leave it connected. Btw, where can one buy it?

[@kurtklopp4172]

They are available on ebay.

[@josephpuchel6497]

Hey Kurt excellent tutorial video. Which generator do you have thank you

[@kurtklopp4172]

Joseph, The one in the video is an MEP-802A. I also have MEP-831A's and make a kit for the 831A too.

[@clark4283]

Does this work on the mep-805b?

[@kurtklopp4172]

Nothing available yet for the 805B

[@tylergcharron1]

@@kurtklopp4172 Are you currently working on a kit for the 805B and if so, how soon can they be available for purchase?

[@kurtklopp4172]

@@tylergcharron1 Nothing for the 805's. Not a product I plan on developing at this point.

[@jhbrown53]

What auto transfer switches will work with your auto start kit ? Does this have a 12v out to control the transfer switch?

[@kurtklopp4172]

Jeff, The Remote Start kit has a "2-wire" interface that can be connected to a toggle switch, solar charge controller or "Smart ATS". It just needs one of those items to make a contact closure between the 2 wires on my interface to tell the generator to start. Smart ATS's have controllers in them that have a relay that it can close and open to tell a generator to start & stop. Less expensive "Dumb" ATS's don't have that feature. The system does not have a 12 volt DC output on it. However... I do produce an ATS support board that works in conjunction with my Remote Start system to interface to an ATS smart or dumb. It does have a 12 volt DC power supply on it. It also monitors the utility voltage and detects when there is a power outtage to start and stop the generator. The ATS support board also has several relays to control a dumb ATS such as a Generac RSXW100A3, RXSC100A3, RXSW150A3, RSXW200A3, RXSC200A3 transfer switches. The relays handle transfer switch operation as well and powering the SACM in the Generac ATS's. Kurt

[@jhbrown53]

@@kurtklopp4172 Thanks for the quick reply. I should have just messaged thru Ebay. I am a general contractor & typically do all my own electric so have decent electrical knowledge.I put in 2 complete Kohler gensets about 7-8 years ago but did not pay much attention to the exact start sequence. The Kohler 200 amp ATS I installed if I remember right did have two low low voltage wires as a trigger since I used 14/2 instead of a hour round trip to HD . I just picked up 3 Mep 802 & 803 generators for me and my family so plan on getting them set up fully automatic. Do most of the ATS like the Kohler & generac provide the 2 wire signal required. Do you have a ATS you prefer. Thanks Jeff

[@kurtklopp4172]

@@jhbrown53 Jeff, Make sure the MEP generators you picked up have the "Fuse Mod" installed in them. It's a fuse and fuse holder just to the left to the A1 Voltage regulator behind the gauge panel. If they don't I have kits available on ebay. Different manufacturers of AT's offer various Smart & Dumb ATS's. There is a wide variety of makes and models out there. Normally it would the more expensive ATS's that have a smart controller in them that monitor utility power and that have a means of signaling a generator to start. The less expensive ATS's like the Generac model I mentioned earlier and others are just a Transfer switch and do not monitor utility power and have no mechanism to signal a generator to start. They rely on something external to do that work. The ATS card I mentioned is essentially the smarts needed to monitor utility power, start and stop the generator and cause the ATS to switch between power sources. I'm very familiar with the Generac model I mentioned. I have one here that was used to develop the ATS control board.

[@jhbrown53]

@@kurtklopp4172 Hey Kurt, Sorry for flip flopping between here & the bay. Thanks again for all the info & taking a ton of time to design this controller. I would like to get in touch via email to cut out the middle man if that would be ok with you. I will most likely be doing several of these & will be easier dealing with you directly. I have tried to put my email in the comments twice, once pretty sneaky but were deleted. Just let me know if you would be interested or would prefer to just go thru the bay.

[@farmingsmallkubota1783]

could this be used with an interlock kit or only with a Automatic transfer kit

[@kurtklopp4172]

The 2-Wire Remote Start feature can be used with anything that has a basic contact closure to signal the generator start and stop. It can be something like an ATS or something as simple as an ON/OFF toggle switch. If using a toggle switch when the switch is ON the controller will start up the generator. When the toggle switch is switched to OFF the controller will shut down the generator. If you are using a manual interlock on your panel you could mount a toggle switch near it. Flip the toggle switch, wait for the generator start and then manually flip the interlock to use the generator power. Versions of this system now also support the MEP-804A, MEP-804B, MEP-805A & MEP-806A.

[@richardbuehler9275]

Modbus or MQTT acCess? Is It available so I can incorporate it into my SCADA system?

[@kurtklopp4172]

There isn't any MQTT or Modbus for accessing the data. The system was designed to work in off grid settings.

[@GD-ds5rm]

What is the cost and how do I purchase this modification?

[@kurtklopp4172]

I offer the Remote Start kits on ebay for the 802A, 803A, 804A, 804B, 805A, 806A and MEP-1030. www.ebay.com/itm/185539237162

[@kurtklopp4172]

Click on "See Other Items" to view all the various MEP systems and parts that I have available!

[@sh839c]

Are us mep-003A owners out of luck for these kits?.

[@kurtklopp4172]

At the moment yes. I may create a version for the -002A & -003A in the future.

[@homesteadfromscratch]

Very nice. Will this work on a 3kw MEP-701A?

[@kurtklopp4172]

No. This unit is designed to interface specifically with 802 thru 804 gen sets electrical systems. Unfortunately few use the 701 or it's cousin so I haven't developed a unit tailored to it.

[@MegaBadwolf]

Kurt, does the software work with an Apple iPhone?

[@kurtklopp4172]

Yes it does. Will work with most any WiFi enabled device with a browser. Remote Start kits available on ebay for the 802, 803, 804, 805A & 806A.

[@MegaBadwolf]

@@kurtklopp4172 thanks for such a speedy reply. I am certainly now going to go ahead with purchasing an 803A and remote start kit - do you have any recommendations about Automatic Transfer Switch?

[@kurtklopp4172]

@@MegaBadwolf I believe the Asco Transfer switch's support 2-wire generator Start/Stop. The Transfer switch needs to have a set of contacts that close to tell the generator to start and open when the generator should shut down.

[@kurtklopp4172]

There is no "app" needed on the phone, laptop or tablet. Only a browser is needed.

[@kurtklopp4172]

On request they can be configured to run in WiFi "Station" mode. In Station mode they connect to you homes WiFi router and can be accessed by any device on your home network.

[@wcpresley]

How can I purchase this product? Thanks

[@kurtklopp4172]

You can go to www.steelsoldiers.com/forums/parts-for-sale.126/?starter_id=35224 For ordering info.

[@baylinkdashyt]

I have one question -- and it may be immaterial, but... -- You mention early in the video that having the kit installed doesn't override front-panel control. But what if you've started it remotely, and the front-panel master switch is in Stop? How would you then stop it?

[@kurtklopp4172]

What was meant is that the generator can still be started and stopped using the front panel controls just as if the Remote Start kit isn't installed. To explain the Remote Start kit operates in "parallel" with the front panel controls. If the set was started via the from panel switch control can then be passed to the Remote Start system. Once control is passed to the Remote Start system the front panel switch can be set to STOP and the set will continue to run under control of the Remote Start. The opposite is true too. If the set is started via the Remote Start control can be passed to the front panel START/STOP switch. Once done the front panel switch can be used to shut the generator down. There is a feature in the web browser control to perform the passing of control back and forth between the Remote Start system and the front panel controls.

[@tomwragg8620]

Can this be used when in 120/208 3phase configuration?

[@kurtklopp4172]

Tom, Yes, It can be use in 120/208 3 phase configuration. The current wire harness has 4 wires (unlike 2 shown in the picture) that go to K8 so it can detect the current in each of the three legs. Kurt