MERRY SINSMAS - Helluva Boss Season 2 Episode 12 REACTION - Zamber Reacts

[@tvftw1]

Took me near the end of my first viewing to realize Loona and the other hellhounds celebrate Sinsmas under Gluttony. She's just loading up on snacks while the imps are roughhousing

[@connorredshaw5650]

Yep you are correct as both Moxxie and Millie are both from Wrath.

[@sqxbarto9229]

@@connorredshaw5650 Blitz too originally, I think.

[@MattStMarie-bm5sq]

@@connorredshaw5650 not quite Moxxie is from Greed.

[@MattStMarie-bm5sq]

@@sqxbarto9229 Blitz is from Pride see Western Energy

[@flowerymagion960]

Moxie was born in wrath raised in greed ​@@MattStMarie-bm5sq

[@PupGamer93]

Millie is an assassin. Having a baby would 1. Put her out of commission for 9 months and 2. Make her and her baby a target for those wanting revenge on IMP like Crimson or Stryker. I can understand why she would be upset and worried by it.

[@SilverScribe85]

Others have speculated that along with this, Millie's afraid she might not be able to afford proper care; either for herself, the baby or both of them

[@kawaiiemolga]

True! That's my thoughts exactly! But now they have Stolas as the secretary and Loona showed interest in going into missions, not to mention the interns last episode so it's possible for IMP to get more people to help them with the killings, so it seems like they're setting this up so Millie don't have to go into missions and can focus on her pregnancy. That will sure be interesting to see

[@heatherpayne1995]

Plus she's met her father-in-law. It's not inconceivable that Crimson murders M&M and kidnaps their child.

[@SilverScribe85]

@@heatherpayne1995 Yet ANOTHER scary possibility

[@PupGamer93]

@@heatherpayne1995 100%

[@dr.diamond9868]

"You used to have a smoking wife, a kid, you had it all!!! I hope you didn't give it up, so you and him can get it up" has a whole new meaning after this episode, because Stolas really did give it all up for Blitzø, especially his daughter even if he really didn't want to

[@chrisidornigie]

He took responsibility for his actions. His wife + BIL vendetta/scheme took him away from her yet she’s choosing not to acknowledge that. Mother like daughter…

[@habiba-wp1hn]

I think Millie is worried about how a baby will change her. She lives a high risk lifestyle, and being pregnant or having a kid changes that. She often gets beat up and knocked around, which I suspect is her reason for wanting to try ranged weapons "this time". That way she wouldn't have to be in close where it's more dangerous. This might also make her worried that she'll be letting Moxxie down.

[@ChuramiNakahara]

Plus my thoughts immediately went to all their enemies like striker and Crimson (if he'd even care that is)

[@seeleunit2000]

Pretty much. Imps are on the low on the totem pole in hell, and they don't make much money so a baby would be a financial drain.

[@nziom]

Yeah but i think she's in the wrong for her not to discuss it with Moxxie (which i think it's gonna be intresting conflict later)

[@byrontheusurper6505]

So good

[@AaronTheBaron89]

1:17 he was reaching for his happy pills forgetting he wasn't at home anymore

[@Nightshade_Realm]

I mean, babies are a lot. Even if you love the person, most women aren't exactly jumping for joy at an unplanned pregnancy. That and the fact Millie is an assassin, it makes things even more complicated

[@RedEyesBlackDragon0]

It's also doesn't help that she is scared of how Mixxie will respond. He didn't have a great relationship with his own father.

[@Kingdice940]

9:08 moxie shooting his pregnant wife out the window is so funny when you rewatch this episode

[@mattstorm360]

She dose cartwheel out and got back up just fine.

[@shaneyzamora2525]

Imps must be sturdy.

[@NoDontb3lieve2o]

Its grand yeah, loool😂

[@deondrex18k]

​@@shaneyzamora2525Mainly wraith imps

[@UnluckilyLvcky]

Moxies full on gonna pull his hair off once he finds out

[@delphoxhoopa7289]

Octavia's line where she said, "I'll be okay, but I'll never be the same," hit in all the most painfully relatable ways. Whether you're 8 years old or 18, having your parent walk out on you feels like your entire world is crashing down, even when you know you're better off without them, because they're the only ones you have. While Stolas clearly didn't intend to leave her, his actions gave off the impression that he valued Blitz over her. I have nothing but sympathy for her situation.

[@rainydaze2889]

I’m hoping Octavia becomes a (temporary)villain in season 3. It would give her so much more purpose as a character. And I LOVE your take on Octavia, finally one not blaming her for everything. But yeah and I’m also hoping Blitz is the one who talks to her instead of Stolas or Loona.

[@MysteriousMusician33]

There's probably a good chance it'll be Loona though, since they have the established relationship from the second episode of this season. Then again, Viv is has been really good at writing character interactions this season, so it'll probably be treated right

[@mikathedeer]

YEAAAH

[@MAlanThomasII]

Love everyone (including Blitz) seemingly forgetting what the "I" in "I.M.P." stands for.

[@itsrengokuandghost]

I just realized the luna is from gluttony and she was just chowing down on a bunch of snacks from gluttony. (Her sinsmas act was eating👍)

[@connorredshaw5650]

Whereas Moxxie and Millie's is play fighting as they are both from the Wrath ring.

[@rokkraljkolesa9317]

@@connorredshaw5650 isn't Mox from Greed?

[@connorredshaw5650]

@@rokkraljkolesa9317 Nope in the harvest moon festival episode he said that he was born in Wrath. But in exes and oohs on their way to Crimsons mansion he said he grew up in Greed So in short he was born in Wrath but move to and grew up in Greed.🙂

[@rokkraljkolesa9317]

@@connorredshaw5650 huh, guess I forgot

[@connorredshaw5650]

@@rokkraljkolesa9317 No worries 👍

[@PurpleLugia]

1:26 4:17 Remember, he's used to going for a medical cabinet (or other place you might have pharmaceuticals) first thing in the morning for his anti-depressant pills (previously seen in S2E1). Stolas was about to ask Blitz if he could get some Happy Pills, but seemed to realize that that would cause Blitz to panic and worry about why he needs such pills, so Stolas dropped the request so he wouldn't bother Blitz with that depression bombshell.

[@martinpetkov5288]

I kinda of understand Millie’s situation and reaction. Let’s not forget 2 important things - Millie not only maybe could not afford it but most importantly she is an assassin. Her bloody lifestyle and ambition clash with motherhood, she can’t do her criminal dangerous job WITH HER HUSBAND too since he too puts himself in danger sometimes out of need. Just in the series there have been cases where Millie and Moxie both could have not got out unscathed (they did but still - risky). What if that imp baby loses its parent early on just because of some accident, an assassination gone wrong! Second thing is even more normal and explainable - she is emotionally not ready for this. It will turn her world around in many ways the that journey is taxing on any person (although rewarding 10 times more) so she could simply, not bare so much responsibility and care on her shoulders right now. She wants to focus on herself for example yet she can’t. She has a life to take care off. That is so so important! I think through the help of Moxxie’s reassurance and the other’s kind words, she will find a solution and way to maybe have this child and be ok-ish, but it’s a big change for M&M anyway you cut it. I am sure Blitzo will lend any helping hand no strings attached, his business is booming, he can do some stuff alone without M&M and give Millie and needed maternity leave for example. Moxxie will be happy for sure but firstly concerned for Millie’s emotional distress. Loonie will help however she can I am certain, she already has gone on missions so she fill in sometimes. Interestingly I would like to see (although I doubt Viv will go down that route) for Stolas to lend a hand, aside from the others and Millie’s family. Unlike Moxxie or Blitz, he has experience with hellborn children, he has Octavio, so maybe he as a parent can teach Millie so things on how to deal with it all (ironically he isn’t setting a brilliant example right now but he has before) so maybe Viv will flesh out their dynamic (Millie and Stolas’s) with that? Again, I doubt it, it’s a stretch but an idea nonetheless.

[@seeleunit2000]

Pretty much. She's a trained killer and she's probably not ready for children. She might consider getting ab abortion

[@rokkraljkolesa9317]

the kid would also be an Achilles' Heel for Millie and by extension I.M.P., because someone like Crimson or Stryker could kidnap and/or threaten the kid

[@DemiTrusdale3]

28:00 he sold his life for a thrust. That was the spirit of lust.

[@TheAceOfFire]

"Did you stay miserable for me!?" I mean yes? You've met your mom, right?

[@ammash3000]

Funny thing is I don’t think she *has* met her mother for who she fully is just yet. She probably knows her mother is awful or at the very least unpleasant but she doesn’t know her mother put a hit out on her father and probably doesn’t know she was one of the ones who set up that trial in the first place. I’m guessing later on she will learn just how much work Stolas put in to try and make their marriage a happy one only for her mother to ruin it all on her end

[@miyamiyadorada]

YES! YOU ARE SO FREAKING RIGHT! Finally someone else that is seeing how complex the situation is, both sides are right and wrong at the same time, is a gray situation when everyone is hurting because outside factors and not knowing the full story, and you are so correct that when the time passes Octavia is going to see that maybe just maybe her father & mother especially father have a reason for staying together even if they don't like each other and none of that was her fault, both parents fail her, they aren't put her outside the drama and hurt, Stella doesn't care if Octavia is miserable she's happy that she won and have everything she always wanted, and Stolas failed to communicate Octavia and make her feel sure that SHE WAS HIS PRIORITY. Ahhh so much emotions. Copy and paste cuz I'm lazy and sad 😭 😭 😭: Poor Octavia, now is seeing her mom in a new light, she's basically laughing and enjoying his ex-husband's fate yet at the same time freaking ignoring how that is hurting her own daughter, really? They couldn't just "celebrate" in private? Does Stella really have to do this in front of her obviously suffering child? Poor baby owl! Selfish parent prove there, and people call Stolas the only "selfish" one. I totally get where she's coming from when she rejected her dad, even more after that beautiful heartbreaking song, can we talk about how gorgeous her voice is? It seems that processing emotions while singing is a family thing. She can't trust Stolas that easily again, even though she is trapped with a spoiled brat mother and snobby awful uncle that are seen to care more about being mean bitches, talking sh!t, and erasing any mark of Stolas in the palace, even if she HATES how her mom and uncle are behaving, it was HER dad the one that in her eyes chose someone, A LOVER, instant of her, his daughter. So is obvious her anger is more direct to her dad, who promise that isn't going to leave her? Who promise to never run away? Who promise to always be by her side? It wasn't her Stella it was Stolas, that's why it hurts so much. She doesn't know all the context but for her, in her eyes, her beloved dad was tied to them by obligation, he was miserable, she made him miserable, she was the reason for him to stay in a marriage that he didn't want, it was her fault he was even in pills, since when? Daddy since when you are suffering in silence? Did you or her even want me in the fish place? Did mom even care I'm unhappy? Why you two even gor married? and she feels like a burden and she can't allow him to hurt her more. In her eyes she was abandoned, her father broke his promise of never leaving her behind. And Stolas ohhh Jesus so much ignorance and privilege to unpack and unlearn, mixed with his obviously mental decline is going to explore in the worst way possible. I can't lie, I freaking cry with him when Via closes the door, the one good thing about his horrible empty life and he loses her too and Via is alone too again, poor owl family... I can't wait for a proper conversation because both parties aren't wrong but they need to talk and explain everything. Yet again Via doesn't have any context but she's entitled to her feelings, and unfortunately is acting as many family members when they discover one of them is taking medicine for depression or any mental issues "Are we not enough? Why can we make you happy? Is... Everything my fault?" But isn't her fault, is years of abuse, trauma and being so alone without a support system. No person can be other whole world, isn't healthy, love can't cure a mental illness. I kinda like that they show how complex divorces are, with "cheating" in an unhappy marriage, if we can call it cheating, cuz there's wasn't even love ot care, and how some parents prefer to make their children suffer if that means getting back to their ex, cuz they are selfish like that. Jesus I always hate it that, I have friends that have been children in that situation and they ended up hating their parents for using them as an object of revenge. Like that sinner lady, her ex-husband divorce her and the "he probably cheat on me" was a excuse for her homophobic behavior, like why she waited until Christmas "sacred holiday" to ask for I.M.P business? Yeah that's prettiest and hate to another level, like her husband is happy, her daughters are happy (notice how she said my daughters not our daughters) but she doesn't, all is about her, her ego and her hate to "her ex-husband's lifestyle" Agh how horrible word, how ironic that she have this vibes of huge religious mean lady and yet she ended in hell. I could talk about many things in this episode, possible pregnancy JESUCRISTO AN UNPLANNED BABY?! WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN?, Loona transformation and his new friends I'm so happy for her, blitz&Stolas relationship and their personal development, that vision in the human family ouch my heart, Stolas sinking into depression cuz GOD his eyes in the end screams desperation and "what I'm going to do?". I can't wait yo know what is going to happen.

[@skelegoo]

I've been waiting for your reaction!! Millie is a super independant character - she is dominant in her relationships, and most prominently, her work, as we saw when Blitz convinced her to join I.M.P. Having a baby would absolutely detroy that freedom she holds for herself. With Moxie, he is able to be independant and fight his own battles while supporting her, which is what makes their relationship work so well. But a child? Not only will she have to be extremely careful while pregnant, meaning she is giving up her line of work and losing a source of income for their home (though, would we really think that Blitz wouldn't give maternity leave? She's his best friend!) but afterwords will have to be the gentle one in her relationship, which is completely unfamiliar and unknown for her. With everything we know about her, and where she's at in her life and career, having her sit around and care for a child from now on seems like it would be extremely overwhelming for her. She's hot headed to begin with, bringing a child that absolutely needs patience and nurturing and constant attention? Not her speciality. I think her biggest worry right now is that Moxie isn't going to be alright when she breaks the news she doesn't want to have this child. She asks him if he knows she loves him, which foreshadows a conversation in which the question of her love for him will arise - implying that she thinks he might think she doesn't love him because she doesn't want a kid with him. Moxie would love to dote on a child and be a father, but Millie can't fathom that she could or technically will be a mother.

[@Maswartz226]

Thank you! There's so many reasons that it's honestly baffling people think she cheated or something.

[@PupGamer93]

@@Maswartz226 I'm sorry...HWHAT?! PEOPLE THINK SHE CHEATED?!

[@julianogueira714]

The only way i can see this working is if moxxie was the one taking care of the baby, he is the more caring and soft one, plus imps are show to have lizards traits so i think i can assume the don't need maternal milk, which means after the pregnancy millie wouldn't be obligated to stay out of field so long, they can swictch who takes cares of the baby every few days or so

[@ryleehensell-xv1lr]

True. Honeslty, I think she will be a great mother. But it does take away the freedom she does have with her job and current life. Also, I'm wondering what advice her sister gave to her. Because that advice can change anything. If I was pregnant and didn't know what to do, i would take advice from family. So, it depends on how everyone else reacts to the pregnancy

[@Alue_KittyKode]

@@PupGamer93 YEA. A HUGE portion of people are taking her "you know I love you, right?" Line, and "Didn't he cheat or something?" At the humans house, as guilt of some kind of cheating. I find it hard to believe they'd go that route for her given EVERYTHING we've seen about her character, and generally M&M as a couple

[@zenmastermtl]

Loona was eating the whole time, and her and her friends were dressed as food cause hellhounds are Gluttony-born.

[@toxicghost58]

Not sure if you got the reference, but when Blitzo was in the ice monster's mouth, and he gave Moxxie a high five, it was a callback to Episode 3 "Spring Broken" when drunk Moxxie gave Millie a high five when she was trying to save him from the fish monster.

[@TheCommenterDragon]

As expected, this episode was definitely worth the wait it turned out to be every bit of epic as I thought it would be, but it was emotional too. a truly fitting end to the shows 2nd season! Literally everything that happened in the episode was both exciting and emotional at the same time. And I must say the fight scene in the episode is the most badass one yet! As for the Stolas and Octavia situation. Stolas may think that Octavia may never forgive him but someday she may come to understand why Stolas did the things he did. and Octavia's song instantly became one of my new favorites! I loved the part where Blitz envisioned him, Loona, Stolas and Octavia spending the holidays together! It really shows deep down, Blitz wants to have a family like that with Stolas. Hell, I even consider that moment to be foreshadowing. And I was completely shocked when I saw that Millie was pregnant, but I excited as well. I mean it may strain Moxxie and Millie's relationship especially if Millie keeps it a secret from him, but I'm sure she will tell Moxxie when the time is right. Although. the worst that could possibly happen, is Millie decides to get an abortion and she never tells Moxxie. In fact when you think about it there would actually be more at stake besides Moxxie and Millie's relationship. Like, if they have the baby then they'll probably be forced to quit IMP and get safer jobs. Hell, they might even move to Wrath and raise their kid on Millie's family farm. But for now, that's all just speculation until season 3 which I totally look forward to your reactions of the next season!

[@IsleofJaya]

To Via after she found Stolas' "Happy Pills," she must have felt that all those happy moments with her dad were lies. That he was just putting on a face and pretending. That Stolas never really loved her too, just like he didn't love Stella. With Blitz, Via saw different sides of her father not she had never seen before. He was a different person to her; someone she thought she knew but didn't. And again, he was never like this with Stella. I know someone who no longer loved their partner but didn't divorce because they wanted their children to be raised by both parents. And even though they didn't love each other like they still did they were still friends, but other cases aren't always like this. And when kids notice this or when the parents' divorce ends messy, they start to wonder if it was their fault. Did you stay miserable, just to make me happy? Did I do something to cause this? That child ends up feeling guilty, and they might wish that they never existed.

[@echo_thebatdragon6943]

To be fair, it was an arranged marriage. We don't know what it was like for the majority of it, but we can at least assume that, given his reaction to seeing Stella's portrait as a child, he *never* loved her. But even then, that might only make the situation seem worse from Via's perspective. Because that'd mean that to her (granted she does say "never loved" so this is probably the case), she was even moreso just an obligation. When there's a definitive turning point in a relationship, you can sort of point the finger at someone/something from around that time, but to Via, she *is* that thing. She wouldn't know that Stolas was never really in the relationship before her, she only knows that he wasn't after she was born/hatched.

[@IsleofJaya]

@@echo_thebatdragon6943 nodding

[@byrontheusurper6505]

15:10 The reprise of stolas' lullaby made me SCREAM it's SO GOOD!

[@DemiTrusdale3]

11:49 Stella couldn’t do anything to Stolas. But by keeping him from the person he cared most about, she hurt him every minute of everyday. As we saw at IMP hq. And it was hilarious. Though painful to watch.

[@Gaterman]

Even though Loona was only a side character in this episode, she shined. Finally, she is showing her soft side (especially to Blitz), having fun with her friends/family, and embracing Gluttony with Bee's party style (snacking all day). However, the biggest shock was her feral form, and I wonder where that comes from, like is it something all hounds can do, or maybe she got it from the book, or maybe she is special somehow (part Goetia with the extra eyes). Overall, it's a great episode, and I loved every twist, turn, and reveal ❤.

[@vladdreemurr40]

14:30 not only he chose an imp over her, he chose to DIE for him. And he used antidepressants to stay happy being with her and Stella (I know it's not exactly true, I chose a specific formulation). So understandable, but... well, let's hope she will eventually realise Stolas loves her very much

[@masterripper5409]

I’m so proud of Octavia for standing up to Andrealphus but also shocked and scared to see her standing up to Stolas as she tells him that he sees Blitz more than her.

[@-tiredkitcat-2336]

I heard somewhere that owls can sense when people are pregnant so maybe Stolas knew Millie was pregnant which is why he was so concerned when her and Moxxie were fighting

[@DaZebraffe]

Fun fact: Cold actually can, in fact, make some people throw up. Mainly only if they go out into extreme cold from somewhere comfortably warm, too abruptly. But, yeah.

[@Scardy]

I get Via’s perspective here. She does understand, but that doesn’t mean it hurts any less. She still loves her dad deeply, but that’s what hurts. The idea that you weren’t worth sticking around for twists up in you and the relationship will never be the same. Even if they patch things up, it will not be like it was.

[@lawnmowerdude]

Stolas didn’t make the active decision of protecting blitz‘s life therefore, I’m going to be banished from my house and family for 100 years.

[@seeleunit2000]

​@@lawnmowerdude... He did make the act of decision. Instead of being killed he was exiled for 100 years because he was a Goetia. Blitz would have been killed because he was an imp. That's classism right there.

[@theidiotics2629]

​@@lawnmowerdudestolas chose that

[@ammash3000]

I don’t think Via fully understands just how awful her mother really was to Stolas. She certainly doesn’t seem to know Stella put a hit out on him or that she had a hand in setting up that trial in the first place (there is no way she would have cried into her chest if that were the case). I’m feeling optimistic that she will learn Stolas’ side of the story, and that he didn’t stay in an awful marriage because of her but rather *survived* it because of her.

[@PerfectKirby]

Given the kind of person Millie is and her job, I think she has plenty of reasons to be afraid of having a child

[@Kittynyow113]

My guess is Stella will reveal either unintentionally or intentionally due to smugness and stupidity that she was the one to try and have him killed. And THAT will open Octavia's eyes even more.

[@connorredshaw5650]

23:33 Me and others have a theory in regards to Loona's new badass form. We believe that Loona may be actually related to Marchosia the cruel she wolf goetia demon. I and others really hope that this is true. Also she was such a fucking badass in this episode. Thank god that Blitz didn't have to deal with this version of Loona in Western energy. This episode proved to us that Loona really was trying to hold back from giving her dad any severe injuries because she does love him. And I love that she is continuing to show off her more loving and caring side more consistently since full moon onwards. And to see her come out of her shell at the end of the episode with her hellhound friends Esme and Russ was just so heartwarming to watch. Loona is my favourite character, and i can't wait for what they do with her in both seasons 3&4. 😊

[@PerfectKirby]

Personally I believe the theory that she simply picked it up from Stolas’ grimoire because she was the one who handled it most of the time.

[@Gaterman]

Hmm, I didn't know anyone else actually thought Loona might be part Goetia, I've kinda thought about it for a while now due to her unusual talent for magic and this episode has reinforced my belief, though I assumed she's only part Goetia and part Hellhound. I also loved her character progression as well and I can't wait to see more, and hopefully more of her backstory.

[@connorredshaw5650]

@@Gaterman That's what I think that she's part goetia. But if this is true that's just fucking awesome.

[@Gaterman]

@@connorredshaw5650Ah, sorry, I thought you were implying that she was fully Goetia and that she just looked like a hellhound because of her wolf looking mom, so I'm glad we're on the same page.

[@connorredshaw5650]

@Gaterman I think that her dad may also be a hellhound but obviously lower class

[@shizun_eats_wontons]

I shed so many tears on this. It’s unbelievable. 😭

[@abthedragon4921]

This show in general has been improving its visuals with every episode but Octavia's song especially is animation peak!!

[@byrontheusurper6505]

I love this episode so much, what a ROLLERCOASTER! I think I went through almost every emotion the human brain can process!

[@SirSadness]

Many have come up with logical reasons for Millie to not want a kid, but remember everyone, simply not wanting to have a kid is reason enough.

[@alvaroperez2349]

This has been one hell of a finale.

[@Wolfking99-x4r]

Indeed it was my friend

[@connorredshaw5650]

And we've still got 2 more seasons each with 15 episodes and more shorts still to come. 😊

[@Wolfking99-x4r]

Hell ya

[@justinwang4908]

​@@connorredshaw5650wait helluva boss is gonna have 4 seasons

[@javi8905]

So many folks have been blaming octavia glad someone sees that she isnt wrong at all in how she feels. She literally saw her dad about to be executed on live tv for the person he promised he wouldnt leave her for and she cried over it. Pretty truamatic for a teen id imagine. Her father means the world to her to. He has also failed to show up for her too. Stolas did what he had to but it was a culmination of his choices that backed him into a corner. He isnt wrong for saving blitz but he does owe octavia better behavior as her father

[@tobiasreinhold7642]

20:10 You're actually the first reactor I've found who realised it at this point. I connected the dots at this point aswell, so I was looking to see who else got it there.

[@yesikanarvaez5027]

Well at least Stolas is among real friendly company

[@BrandonJames2016]

A pretty emotional finale honestly like Stolas breaking down bc of Octavia rejecting him was really sad to watch.

[@PugzGaming]

I’m soo excited for baby Imp but… Millie and Moxie have been such a strong couple this entire show. And with their line of work and what we know about Millie I don’t see her wanting to have a child right now. But I can see Moxie being soo excited to be a dad, over protective and not wanting Millie to be, well Millie. So there is this pit in my stomach that could see the baby becoming a huge fight for them, which could result on them taking a break or worse, separating. With potentially Millie wanting to not have the child.

[@julieornelas3787]

Or….I hate to say it, but Millie might lose the baby. This show covers a LOT of heavy themes. I wouldn’t be surprised if they added a miscarriage. 😢

[@Ghost_R4cc00n]

This episode is truly a masterpiece to Christmas special present that we won’t forget till next year with S3 in the development process. But we might be getting some Helluva Shorts while we wait till S3 comes back in action with some crazy episodes, songs, new locations, characters and much more. 😄

[@connorredshaw5650]

Vivziepop explained that there will be a hiatus due to season 3 still being in production. So during this hiatus up to when season 3 starts Vivziepop has confirmed that they'll be releasing multiple shorts in order to full in this large gap. I think it's a fantastic idea on Vivziepop's part because releasing multiple shorts during the hiatus will definitely help the wait for season 3 to be more bareable.

[@Ghost_R4cc00n]

@ thanks for the breaking down as I just give out the simplest version in my opinion 😅 but i appreciate your time to give us context

[@Cutetailsandhelluvabossfan668]

This is awesome the animation is good I was crying it was beautiful

[@ChickenBlox.]

Okay so when Millie shows the pregnancy test in the hallway the door number she is at is the number 661 which is an angel number and means “661, it may be a sign that you are being called to lead with love and compassion. This number is a reminder to put your family and loved ones first, while also pursuing your career goals and passions. Seeing this number repeatedly may also be a sign that you are on the right path and should trust in the universe to guide you towards your goals.” So i think this confirms that she is gonna keep the baby BUT NO ONE NOTICED THIS 😭

[@skelegoo]

Eh, thats only one definition of those numbers, it isn't necessarily the only meaning, if they mean anything at all. Also, it definitely doesn't confirm it - do you think knowing everything we do about her character that she'd *want* to be a mom right now?

[@ChickenBlox.]

@ I mean obviously in season 3 it’s going to go over what Millie and Moxxie want to do with the baby but it could be foreshadowing their decision

[@JH24821]

@@skelegoo Obviously not now, but this may change in the next season.

[@m0thernature730]

As someone who built walls as high as skyscrapers… when someone breaks those walls it’s not a slow process… your entire life revolves around them. You only want to see them smile, hear them laugh, learn everything you can to make life easier for them. Suddenly life isn’t yours… you do everything and anything… blitz has gone 180 and currently that’s important for stolis but it doesn’t stop the self hatred… it doesn’t stop the…. Pain…

[@shadycactus7896]

2:24 Stolas asks "where's your phone?" Implying he used Blitz's phone to call Octavia. However, it shows his contact on the call

[@isiahcook2771]

It does show Stolas's contact, but it also says under it that he's calling from "shitty boyfriend's phone" so it seems like contacts and phones can be separate from each other.

[@AZDfox]

​@@isiahcook2771yeah, Blitzø has no reason to call her himself, so any call from him would almost always be her dad using his phone

[@joemalo5335]

Can we all take a breath, close our eyes and imagine a timeline where Octavia is babysitting for Minnie M&M Aint gonna happen, but it's a damn fine vision

[@Luxking]

Nice vid as always Zamber what you might have also missed is how Octavia her song was somewhat a parralel of the song Stolas would sing to her when she was young (The one in LooLoo Land) with both songs talking about being there for each other and the planets destroying in the background its such a nice attention to detail.

[@feliperuiz7458]

Millie is going to be mooooom!!!! Mox is going to be daaaaad!!!!! And Blitz is going to be uncleee!!!!!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@Cocka2]

While Id love that too you gotta know they might not keep it.

[@mattstorm360]

For Millie i think it's more of the fear and uncertainty. It's an unplanned pregnancy and i get the feeling her and Moxxie never talked about having a kid. Now she's going to be a mother. Moxxie is going to be a dad. That's a massive change in their life. Blitzo, Loona, and Stolas would definitely help but still. Huge change raising a child. She never done anything like that and she's scared.

[@lawnmowerdude]

They don’t have to be anything. They’re in hell. I’m not sure how abortion works there. That will be an interesting dynamic.

[@Astherma]

Honestly, I feel like Millie cheated on Moxxie. She's never said before that Moxxie isn't "demon enough" or anything like that, and I felt like it was really odd that she said "You know I love you, right?" with a look of guilt on her face. On one hand, I really don't want to believe this since it'd be ruining pretty much the greatest, most wholesome relationship in the whole show, but on the other hand, I dunno I feel like there's a really high likelihood this is the case.

[@Renkencen]

You do know revealing you're pregnant is not always a good thing at first right especially when it's not plan? Sure I have no doubt they would make great parent but given their profession, it now means they may have to leave their job sooner than later now? Even then given that imps are lower classes, Millie may not wanted to have a kid in the first place if they only only born to suffer.

[@harmonygray840]

Oh my gosh That Color of highlight on u Is SO PRETTY!! XD

[@verspin]

That was everything I wanted from a finale. The dance at the end almost had me sher a tear. Definitely my top 5 maybe even 3

[@Jarino507]

There could be a lot of reasons Millie is scared of the pregnancy. It could be as simple as she doesn't want a child. I'm glad they portrayed her fear given the state of health care right now.

[@ryangregory2]

I don't know if anyone noticed this but, pay close attention to Octavia's song and when Stolas is at his old palace. Both incidences have returning instrumentals and tones, of the previous songs Stolas sang over the 2 seasons!

[@byrontheusurper6505]

I did not see the pregnant thing coming at all but looking back MAN I love the setup for that!

[@seeleunit2000]

Millie probably doesn't want children. She's an assassin with a dangerous life and she's probably not emotionally ready. Also, the bird really needed to start getting punished for his prior actions. Stolas has been classist condescending and spineless and it shows. He's been too passive and stuck in his own head and it took having to take away his power privilege and money to be able to get him to start to realize just how much of a pompous rich douche he has been

[@emeraldmorgan6644]

I wonder if loona is a descendent of Marchosias a wolf goetia?

[@MickeyCuervo36]

Are Millie and Sallie Mae the oldest of the siblings? I wonder if they ever had to take care of their younger siblings growing up. Millie may have resented having to do that, losing a lot of her independence, even though she loves her family. That might be why she decided to head off on her own for merc jobs in the first place.

[@hjonkhjonksillygoose]

Not everyone is ready for or wants to have kids. I imagine that a young kid would make Millies life much more difficult due to her job and lifestyle

[@Fatalbeast22]

Millie has fought her entire life, shes been a professional assassin for years now and has constantly had to save or be saved by her husband and bestfriend/boss, being pregnant and having a baby would immensely get on the way of that

[@HappyThoughts-HAPPY-THOU-xx3gm]

The only part I’m dreading is blitz has to explain to Stolas WHAT he did to make his sister hate him.

[@camiart_casual]

I can’t see Stolas hating him for that though? He has no traumas linked to that kind of thing specifically that we know about so I don’t see why Stolas would react badly.

[@karmaslyrics]

Probably feels responsible for killing his mother.

[@musicfreakshow5190]

I'm so happy someone agrees. She's not wrong for going off and being angry! She is right. She is wrong. But worse of all, she's hurt. That's what the focus should be.

[@ammash3000]

I believe Milly’s issue with being pregnant is that her relationship with Moxxie right now is as perfect as it can be and having a baby will change that for better or worse. And if their marriage couldn’t possibly get any better… yeah.

[@marinadiaz1762]

I think a lot of us missed this during the first watch. When Stella stops her daughter from answring the call from Stolas and turns to her brother she says "He's finally calling" and Andy says something like "It's taken him this long" but then later we hear Stella saying "he's been trying to call her all month". Via has headphones in and takes them after. So it seems like she didn't actually know and her mother had enough time to continue the doubt Via already had in her father which is what made it easier for Via to not forgive him

[@camiart_casual]

Honestly Blitzø is at his best when he has someone to be gentle with and take care of. We’ve seen this sweet side of him with Loona before but she doesn’t know how to accept it, and until recently he would never have thought Stolas needed it. It sands all of his edges right off and makes him forget his self hatred for a while. It’ll be interesting to see how their dynamic evolves after a while now that the tables are kind of turned and it’s Stolas who exists unwillingly under Blitzø’s mercy for once. Also it’s really cool that you can see Octavia’s side of these issues! So many reactors are sick of her so it’s refreshing to see someone with empathy for the poor girl. I adore Stolas but the truth is that he does keep messing up with her and she’s done forgiving him over and over again. We’ll see if we get more depth out of her next season though!

[@MaiCowboy]

Millie, the reason why she’s probably upset is because this doesn’t seemed planned and she could be freaking out on what to do or if she even wants the baby. A lot of people have these emotions wondering if they wanna take a big step. So sometimes not a lot of people are happy when they find out they’re pregnant.

[@warret8201]

30:10 i think millie is sad because blitz can even afford another bedroom and the boss is mostly richer then the employee so adding a little one can be more expensive and they are assasins her baby would be a target

[@TrackpadProductions]

I think it's more likely that pregnancy and motherhood fundamentally conflict with her self-image. We saw in Ghostf**kers that her entire sense of self-identity revolves around her abilities as an assassin. It's a complication in her life she's not ready for - and that's not even considering the pregnancy itself. Trying to carry to term while being an active assassin will likely result in becoming pregnaren't _very_ quickly 🤷

[@arsenalraven]

Regarding Stolas leaving just before Blitz came back, I just went back and did a quick math that was bugging me, lol. The job took the team ~124 seconds from portal out to portal home (~16:55-18:06) and we cut to Stolas from 16:55-18:06 and watch him after they leave for ~151 seconds. Even assuming we just didn't see every moment of the job and that we immediately cut back to Stolas and Demon Karen bitching literally the instant they left, they should have been back well before Stolas left. I wonder if the actual travel from one plane to the next through a portal takes time. I mean I obviously I know the real reason is narrative, but still, fun. XD

[@DaZebraffe]

Also, some neat details: When explaining Sinsmas to Stolas, Blitzø said that traditionally, one would celebrate with acts of whatever sin they were born under. And, then, we see... -Loona eating for most of the episode, since hellhounds are born in Gluttony. -Blitzø topping the tree with a Mammon hat, because he grew up in Greed. -M&M fighting because Millie was born and raised in Wrath, and though Mox was born in Greed, he considers himself to belong more to Wrath.

[@camiart_casual]

Mox was born in Wrath too, even though he was raised in Greed.

[@andytheunicorn]

What Stolas was asking for in the beginning in the episode were his happy pills, he always had them in the bathroom cabinet

[@Jayan-fz6tj]

12:31 best part 25:31 second best part 23:33 third best part

[@All54321]

Blitz lives in a one bedroom apartment, either his self worth is so low he doesn’t think he deserves a bedroom or he can’t afford more. So for M&M to have a kid, it could be pretty tough. Not to mention their life style, they get into so many life or death situations that having a kid would be… well, not the best situation for them. Millie also would be out of commission for a while, which I don’t know how well she’ll take that- In general it’s a tough situation for them, her hesitation/doubt isn’t that misplaced.

[@randomosity6878]

I mean… Stolas chose not only Blitzo, but expected his decision would lead to his own execution. Stolas did choose Blitzo over his daughter as he was willing to die and leave his daughter behind in order to save Blitzo’s life. I think it’s easy to think, “he chose Blitzo to love and live with”, because Stolas’s sacrifice was treated as a joke when it was revealed he wouldn’t be killed like an imp for the crime, but yeah… his daughter has every right to not forgive him for that choice. He did choose the path that actively meant he would abandon her, abandon life, if it meant Blitzo would be okay.

[@carlosemilianoperez1975]

Millie's frustration with her pregnancy can be due to many things, 1.- she is a murderer, a pregnancy means at best, temporary retirement, at worst, complete retirement 2.- I.M.P has made quite a few enemies, which could make his baby a target 3.- his father-in-law is a gangster who will seek revenge 4.- They don't really have money, although in the previous chapter it was shown that many people are supporting I.M.P, in this we can notice that the economic problems continue, blitzo does not have money, we could see it when he tried to buy clothes for stolas, in addition to that moxxie was probably right and they were too close to bankruptcy

[@dodiswatchbobobo]

I feel like Blitzø’s caregiving with Stolas is based on how he smothers Loona.

[@Wolfking99-x4r]

What an emotional way to ends this season

[@parkersmith8711]

This episode was so fantastic, also I really wish that pop song at the start was longer and just make a standalone version

[@dilazoid21m3]

Octavia is just being lied too because of her mother detail stole his loves her more than anything. His wife just never cared about him

[@samurai2871]

I am just waiting for Octavia to find out that her mother is the one who hired a hitman who tortured and almost killed Stolas.

[@Moonbloom223]

Anyone noticed their mom looked at Sally before the rest a mother's intuition is like spidey sense

[@xmant8842]

Even with how great and emotional all the stolas and octavia stuff was in Sinsmas, the peak of the episode for me was honestly the millie reveal. I was absolutely jaw-dropped! Skip if you havent watched yet. Im so happy for her and moxxie! I honestly hope she doesn't decide to have an abortion. I highly doubt she will, but i do think she's very concerned about if she'd be good raising a child(obviously her and moxxie would be great)

[@eagleeye5189]

The thing about Via is that she genuinely is not wrong. Like, it's not just from HER perspective that Stolas chose Blitz over her; it's just...true. Sure, Stolas was acting on impulse, he saved Blitz without thinking because he loved him, but that doesn't change the fact that he did make the decision to save Blitz and throw away his life. I mean, in the last episode, he genuinely thought he was going to be EXECUTED. He was ready to die for it, ready to leave Octavia completely without him for good. Sure that wasn't what was going to happen anyway, but HE thought it was. It's not even a case of "he didn't mean to choose Blitz", it's a case of "he chose Blitz, and went down expecting to be KILLED for it without any attempt to defend himself. What Octavia sees is her father pretty directly being willing to give up everything, including her, for Blitz. Octavia is correct in distrusting him. He explicitly told her that he wouldn't run away with Blitz and leave her behind, and while that isn't literally what he did, the effects of it are the same. I love that this is such a mature conversation; there aren't any mistakes or misinterpretations, no silly word choices leading to a season-long misunderstanding; Octavia doesn't have the full context, sure, but even if she did, it wouldn't change the facts of what happened. That's what's so beautifully tragic about all of this. There's no "Explain things/reveal the truth and she'll forgive you". The truth is WHY she distrusts him, and he needs to earn it back.

[@Soyjosealberto98]

I love the episode so much Merry Sinsmas to all of yall

[@marcywugo]

Merry Sinsmas

[@BigBWolf90]

The eggs thing actually isn't any form of cannibalism really as long as the eggs aren't owl eggs. There are plenty of birds that will eat another species of bird's eggs example being the secretary bird who has been known to crack open ostrich eggs to get the yolk

[@Sonic-ic4yc]

I couldve sworn that in like the first couple of episodes they decided they didnt want kids

[@jaroslavdzurilla5103]

Owls DO eat eggs according to google, and knowing chickens, I believe it.

[@karlafm24]

Octavia's feelings are valid, but she's a child with only minimal understanding and knowledge of what's really going on in her dad's life. She needs to let him explain, tbfh.

[@OdesseyAchilles-ih5qb]

There’s a joke that goes, “They’re ‘new poor’, we’re ‘old poor’, we know how to survive.” Stolas is “new poor”, he needs to get over his privilege and grow up. I get his trouble started with his own dad selling him off into an arranged marriage, but the failure to educate himself on the VAST differences in the classes is completely on Stolas. There comes a time when you have to take accountability for yourself and your actions and/or inactions.

[@andytheunicorn]

The baby is really holding in like a champ because Millie had been thrown around all episode

[@demonic_myst4503]

“NotHings wrong but why i still feel this eay” what if stolas depression is really clinical depression the chemical inbalance where even i good situations u can still feel horible

[@sandrafunacc1]

Proud of myself for calling the Millie reveal almost immediately, but I think this storyline could really go in a direction most won’t expect..

[@lunaarc23]

Blitz making hot coals, sounded like a horse galloping. Neet litte detail there.

[@murraytianne]

Blitz and Stolas sharing a romantic kiss was literally the best moment in this episode!!!!! 😊😊😊😊😊🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰

[@Fatalbeast22]

Regardless of how fucked up it is, stolas did ultimately choose blitz over octavia, he went and saved blitz knowing full well he would be punished, hell he thought he was gonna be executed meaning he would never see octavia again, so either A he thought about octavia and still chose to (in his mind) die for blitz and leave octavia all alone, or B the thought of octavia never even entered his mind and he was solely focused on blitz.

[@aceaster2657]

I def think their financial situation and her being an assassin are probably her biggest reasons for reacting that way. If you think back, her and Moxxie live in a very run down tiny apartment with broken windows and that was back when they had a "decent" income coming in regularly. Now, they haven't worked a proper job in ages and Blitz likely is still months behind in paying them like Millie mentioned before. If they could barely afford shelter when they were doing well, imagine now. Where will they get the extra cash to be able to house a third person or even space because they likely don't have much to begin with, who will care for the kid while both of them are at work? Millie is one of their strongest fighters as well, having her out of commission would be very dangerous and mean less money for her and Moxxie at a time when they need an increase. And lets not even start on how Moxxie's "family" would react, who knows, maybe Moxxie will feel extra burdened and anxious because he doesn't want to be like his dad.

[@TembaTaiga]

Many reasons why someone would not want a new kid. She might not be willing to part with the kind of life she already has.

[@johnbowersox738]

This show is the worst for giving you hope that things can work out and then ripping out your heart while kicking you in the groin.