Carl Schmitt: Understanding Liberalism (Concept of the Political)

[@TuxedoTalk]

I'm an anarchist and oddly completely agree with him about people and politics. People are inherently tribal and violent, its exactly why I don't support the existence of a state. Its the ultimate force multiplier of that destructive human nature.

[@PaulJosephKrause]

You wouldn’t be the first to take this view!

[@TuxedoTalk]

@@PaulJosephKrause I didn't expect to get your attention with that comment. You're channel is a hidden intellectual jem. You just put out the difference thinkers ideas without bias for or against. Well done

[@Tom-qz8xw]

this view is exceptionally naive, how would you be competitive geopolitically and militarily

[@TuxedoTalk]

@@Tom-qz8xw Do you think either of us will convert the other in a KZbin comment section?

[@Tom-qz8xw]

@@TuxedoTalk haha likely not

[@WiseNationalSocialism]

Thank you. Very interesting.

[@christofeles63]

Excellent presentation. You have filled a real void on KZbin. Your next summaries will be : After Virtue, MacIntyre; Natural Right and History, Strauss; Die Rolle der Erotik in der Männlichen Gesellschaft, Hans Blüher; On Authority, Hanna Arendt; On the Jewish Question, Karl Marx

[@lsobrien]

Great lecture.

[@seamusobrien2675]

Terrific, clearly explains Schmitt without the usual value judgements that cloud understanding with compulsory and automatic disapproval. Unrepentant Nazi he may of been but at least he did not strangle his wife in a psychotic rage. So everyone has a good side. QED.

[@seamusobrien2675]

Social Anarchist/Marxist political philosopher Louis Althusser on 16.11.1980@@zww1019 . He held the antisis of Schmitts approach to political philosophy.

[@anonymous666951]

I believe that would be a reference to the Marxist Louis Althusser.@@zww1019

[@franbatista9062]

You’ve been lied about the WWII

[@doodoo4981]

@@zww1019Maybe he’s talking about Louis Althusser? He was an influential left wing intellectual who ended up strangling his wife to death (he had bipolar schizophrenia).

[@ealdorman5053]

excellent breakdown thanks for the lesson

[@adi2k88]

Reminds me somewhat of Mussolini / Gentile. I wonder if you could dissect their philosophies, too.

[@pink_kino]

it should cause Carl Schmitt was a Fascist aswell

[@paulboggess1330]

​@@pink_kinoAh the word that really just means something someone dislikes.

[@stephen1340c]

I suppose scapegoating ethnic, racial, religious, and cultural minorities as well as joining a political party that favored such a thing is better than being a liberal, classical or modern.

[@TekKskakwmkwm111]

If you read Schmitt, his work raises a curious question: why did Schmitt join arms with the NS? Ultimately, it seems like Schmitt was a careerist. The banality of evil has been beaten to death by millions of films, books, etc. so I won’t belabor that point here. Just remember that you and me are not too far away from being just like Schmitt. For instance, I’ve worked at companies in consequential roles. Arguably, I’ve made the world a worse place. Finding a way out isn’t easy, but I’m working on that. You aren’t wrong to call Schmitt out. Just don’t forget your own folly in the process.

[@samyar]

he based,,,his theory on the basis that one desires to to loose life over the interest of his/her tribe. In this view, self indulgent is such a bad thing. The CRITICAL ERROR he makes is that the TRIBE and its attitude (to be in conflict) is not why humans have joined the tribe...in the state of nature, one would have joined a tribe to increase their chances of getting food, and not being eaten while sleep...basically the tribe only increases the chances of survival of its members...this means, to an individual..the tribe is not natural either...survival is.. and in this, SELF indulgent is the reason why humans decided on creating states...once life is gone, one would be uninterested on human affairs, as a wooden table to the state of a jungle...every single rule, every single state, every single politcal movement or idea stops well before self indulgent ( as a expansion of desire to survive or live the longest and the best)...being alive for any one person, and the odds of it, is far remote from even winning the lottery...it's an unbelievable gift to be alive...you would do anything to have that continued before it is shut for eternity and nothing further to be shown...in this, there is no reason for anyone to give in to any particular collective, if by doing that it decreases your chances of survival....in short self indulgent is actually a far more important and natural virtue to a human than tribalism.

[@copperking5235]

Excellent summary. We’ll done.

[@Claude_the_Reaper]

All this critique of liberalism is like fine wine. But really, what is the true political doctrine?

[@roberttg3767]

Vitality, Nietzsche

[@aristocraticrebel]

@@roberttg3767 This.

[@petereiso5415]

"Concept of the political" Political what? Political is an adjective, it modifies a noun. What noun are you applying it to ? Political something, political what ?

[@kanyefuck7018]

Adjectives still need a concept behind them to have any meaning.

[@petereiso5415]

@@kanyefuck7018 Yes, but they modify a noun don't they? Without knowing that noun it has has even less meaning.

[@kanyefuck7018]

@@petereiso5415 the application of a political lens to every issue. Have you read Schmitt?

[@petereiso5415]

@@kanyefuck7018 No, but I do know the language.

[@kanyefuck7018]

@@petereiso5415 Read Schmitt on politicisation (and de-politicisation) and you may be able to get over this odd pedantry. When he speaks about 'the political' it has a very specific meaning and concept.