Unlocking the Secrets of Stealth to Build a Stealth Fighter

Today we build the ultimate stealth fighter in flyout!
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[@messier82ac]

34 minutes long and this is the abridged version... Maybe I ramble a bit lmfao

[@GamingGremlin21]

F35 AnD Yf23 HaD a BaBy

[@UrsinePuppet976]

It's good ramble, you talk about aviation and how and why you do things and what makes them important. The content you make is incredible, keep it up. Your awesome mate👍

[@The_spac3gam3r]

Gif us the long version

[@isaacm1929]

Rambling about personal interests? That is literally the fun part!

[@paulkepshire5056]

@messier82ac Maybe you're doing just fine and imposter syndrome is rearing its ugly head? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@John-qv5ux]

Stealth is cringe, my fighters will amplify their radar cross section with luneberg reflectors to create a return so big it blinds the radar.

[@ildaromar1798]

legitimately not a bad idea

[@CarterDauer]

Won’t that blind your radar too

[@legosrcool3420]

@@CarterDauerso what we got eyes

[@John-qv5ux]

@@CarterDauer Radar is cringe. Embrace IRST.

[@alicorn3924]

in all seriousness, could this actually work though? edit: now that I think about it, this is basically just jamming

[@syborgcat3830]

12:44 Jimmy is staring into my soul

[@messier82ac]

He knows what you did...

[@ChristopherGriffin-ee2ol]

​@@messier82ac *AND THE DEVIL KNOWS WHO YOU ARE!*

[@lisahiebert-penner1191]

@@messier82acit was an accident it wasn’t my fault

[@MartianLeo_T]

@@lisahiebert-penner1191*it was your fault*

[@Urssaff]

12:11 The cube! World's best stealth jet fighter

[@0rion5212]

USS Nimitz would agree 😂

[@professionaldesk]

Before time began, there was... The Cube.

[@Ilikespacee]

I saw you edit it

[@botstowo]

This video will be super handy! I just tried making a stealth fighter based on the Su-57. It had a terrible stealth rating which is... accurate...

[@messier82ac]

Hide yo compressors!

[@John-qv5ux]

Sounds like a perfect replica of the real Su-57.

[@G-Cole-01]

...so you made an Su-57.

[@tetronaut88]

Hi cool gas mask guy!!!

[@WildmanTrading]

Seems accurate.

[@me_dum]

Get this man a job at Skunkworks

[@stinbray1120]

not if i get there first

[@MeAndMyFriendBovineTapeworm]

Huh, so that's why he's taking a break.

[@guigui70051]

The stealth rate of the cube going from 0.01 to 30156 really made me laugh 😂 We need W or M shaped wings if we want a high rating

[@danielmansoor8175]

Awesome! Would be really cool to see you tackle helicopters in future projects as well. Maybe a modern AH-56?

[@samh.6788]

22:12 Us maintainers hate you too! (lmao great vid)

[@TheRealGamada]

Hands down one of the best videos you made to date. The intro is solid gold, the blueprints and explanations are pristine, the explanations are clear and understandable. Not to mention the little cinematic (quite splendid imho) and how RAD the aircraft looks and performs. 9 out of 11, I loved it.

[@WSlopeAggie]

It tickled your towers eh

[@TheRealGamada]

@@WSlopeAggie It indeed tickled.

[@luminary69revision2]

you say the landing gear section is boring there may not be much of anything to talk about there, but honestly I find it pretty interesting watching you set up the landing gear housing mostly because I'm utterly hopeless at it myself xddddddddddd

[@messier82ac]

Lol I cut like 10 minutes of stuff out of the video to keep it under 40 minutes unfortunately

[@saltyradiation706]

@@messier82ac Why did you want to keep it under 40 minutes?

[@neurofiedyamato8763]

@@messier82ac I think the people that play/watch stuff related to this game and willing to hear you talk about the engineering behind a stealth aircraft... probably wouldn't mind hearing all the other little details even if it's an hour long lol.

[@thinhnguyenduy4099]

From what I’ve seen, 5th gen fighters tend ro have excellent AoA characteristics, even the the F-35 it doesn’t have tvc or the canard configuration like the SU-37 (except the delta canard config), it could perform some insane AoA, even some post stall maneuver.

[@WSlopeAggie]

Well yeah, most stealth fighters have absolutely massive control surfaces

[@thinhnguyenduy4099]

@@WSlopeAggie bigger control surfaces have better control authority, you can move them less to control the aircraft, so it means less impact on the fighter’s rcs. Advancement in fly-by-wire tech allows for even more unstable aerodynamic design, fighters can fly and maneuver at even higher AoA and lower speed without canards or tvc

[@blockyboy1263]

Also because they have some of the most powerful engines ever out in a fighter jet inside.

[@RogueBeatsARG]

2 things this game needs, Multiplayer, PVP and War Thunder like controls mode, i bet would be so fun to play

[@garretbernard8174]

F22, YF23, and F35 combined. A beautiful aircraft

[@aesthetic3355]

I very much apreciate both the picture of bo and the family guy funny moments playlist, really keeps the pilot company on those longer missions.

[@spacy256]

WoW iT LooKs LiKe A f35 anD a YF23 HaD the HoT Steamy Sekks!!!1!! 😮

[@messier82ac]

Lol

[@FishNamedWall]

What the Kentucky Fried F-16 Fighting Falcon Fuck did i just read

[@the_air_ocelot]

Is this an opportunity for r34 artists? Seems like an untapped market

[@theskipper1136]

Spacy, what the fuck

[@kingsnakke6888]

Oh gods, you didn't have to expose yourself as a member of NonCredibleDefense, kamerad....

[@AsdAsd-zi4uw]

26:26 Leaked Ace Combat 8 pre-alpha gameplay footage???

[@somedudethatripsplanetinha4221]

This time set in the downright batshit insane nation of Wellow in the Strangereal universe, you play as Scarlet 2, pilot of an experimental aircraft. Tasked with testing the aircraft and demarcating its abilities at first, you eventually are presented with a massive crisis in the Arctic Circle, your ticket to going down (pun intended) in history as one of the great Aces of Strangereal.

[@Dennyboyo]

Great scenario playing near the end there, very ace combat-ish but orange like wingman

[@stinbray1120]

finally someone who also know about the angry red guy who wants to "protect" the people he nuked twice. in all seriousness my favorite quote comes from skill issued red man "monarch... when you hear the thunder... when the storm comes for you... remember me"'

[@bmouch1018]

22:31 great Messier. You just added a brand new maintenance school and a whole list of qualifications just for the one launch system of one aircraft.

[@loco4loco]

2:39 hull “a northern fishing town” was the first northern and last city to be bombed in the UK during the war and was bombed quite often and heavily tho we were spared V1/2 attacks for the most part

[@SRK_223]

The most underrated aviation related channel! Such commitment and attention to detail! 🤘🔥 love your videos man keep it up!

[@axar_pl]

0:00 - Intro 3:39 - Introduction of LF-27 Longsword 7:01 - Building 26:21 - Cinematic 28:49 - Summary

[@judet2992]

The LF-27 looks like a YF-23 and an F-35 had a baby. I like it!

[@stinbray1120]

true

[@awsddesafghjb3718]

man i love this mans yap sessions

[@AfterOblivion]

I haven't even watched it yet but i already can tell its gonna be great! thanks messier!

[@RandomInterwebs]

I remember seeing some of the wip shots on discord, and man does it look even better completed. Fantastic work on this

[@adense1075]

Messier we would love a longer version of your videos ! (Maybe on another channel, or a playlist of them) Amazing aircraft as always

[@stinbray1120]

i second this

[@ivanstepanov6301]

If Sukhoi had Lockheed-level budget and engineering for the Su-75.

[@nailujgilroy501]

Messier thank you so much for your content I praise you and your creations

[@messier82ac]

Glad you like them!

[@xxxm981]

Yes, please make a video indepth explaining modern combat plane jet engines. And maybe some of the early ones as well

[@RogueBeatsARG]

Plane looks Beautiful!

[@owenschulz9504]

That family guy and temple runners probably comes in handy during those long endurance missions

[@S1su]

They should somehow store stealth jets in the space in a vacuum so they wouldnt need as much maintenance. And the when it needs to be used get a pilot in there from the soace or something and just launch it back to earth. But if a pilot was in space in 0 gravity, going instantly to 8Gs wouldn’t be good. Unless the astronaut was in a soinning satellite that had 1G in it

[@LtPulsar]

That's a very... creative idea. It however, would most likely complicate things far more than you anticipate. For one, space requires radiation hardening, cosmic radiation in space is not only harmful to living creatures, but also sensitive electronics such as are found in avionics and guidance systems. Secondly, re-entry is massively taxing on an airframe, requiring expensive, heavy and maintenance-demanding heat shielding, which is likely incompatible with the RAM coating used to make the aircraft less visible to stealth. Not to mention that anything that just underwent re-entry would stick out like a sore thumb on infra-red sensors, being extremely hot. Plus, the logistical issues of actually getting planes, pilots, replacement parts and ordnance up to orbit are prohibitive in the extreme. We can barely get enough tonnage to orbit to do simple research right now, let alone station and staff an entire airbase. All that said, the idea sounds awesome in concept, dropping a plane out of orbit to ruin someone's day. It definitely satisfies the rule of cool.

[@authenticNL2]

A plane made of chocolate would absorb all microwave and even radar waves too!

[@Aedeus]

.... I wanted to create all my dream planes in Flyout, but Messier just did the work for me... but 100x better. Thanks

[@FundyTheAstronaut]

Messier82.. WONDERFUL TO SEE HOW FAR YOU HAVE GONE.

[@AlteryxGaming]

A very interesting design for a multi-roll stealth plane! However, I am curious why you chose the less stealthly diverter style inlets as opposed to the divertless “bulge” system used by the F-35.

[@messier82ac]

The "Bulge" In the F-35 is known as a diverterless supersonic inlet. They vastly improve intake volume at low speeds and high AoA over an intake with a diverter but aren't inherently "more stealthy" than any other stealth intake. (For example, the F-35 has a -30 frontal dBsM while the F-22, with diverters, has -40). While I wanted to do one, it would just end up looking even MORE like an F-35, which I was already getting complaints about, so I decided not to.

[@RafaelRodrigues-jq6uc]

dude this plane looks so cool so clean bro

[@colchronic]

The govt in 2 weeks: It's crazy how messier 82 committed unliving by two gunshot wounds to the back of his head

[@bobbobson-dk6jl]

rlly interesting and cool design, i find it funny how to deploy countermeasures u have to increase ur radar cross section 😂

[@Ajuzu6]

Even with all of the "incoherent rambling" I always manage to learn something about aviation from your channel. And I'm an aviation enthusiast I research aviation all the time

[@davidandre8029]

It looks a bit like the Su 75 and they will probably both stay as as a dream, not enough money to produce them 😅. Anyway great video as always! (a 35 minutes video is not boring when it is entertaining)

[@nullanonsonemmenoiocosascr6676]

Amazing design, glad the paper i sent you was useful for something, the plane looks great

[@irritatorgoner1087]

Peak has returned with another masterpiece 🎉 Still waiting the curtiss xp-71 😅

[@DFX2KX]

That is a GLORIOUSLY slick looking bird. I'm impressed.

[@themanwholooks3606]

First of all, your videos are getting better and better, second, your craft is Gorgeous, I myself playing Juno New Origins on mobile since my pc died, minding about buying a new one just for Flyout!

[@JayGatsby-b8w]

I am deeply disappointed that the temple run footage was not included in the cockpit. You will be hearing from my legal team about this.

[@energonow]

i think lockheed martin skunk works wants you

[@oneshotReker]

Maybe you could try to make a stealth tilt rotor aircraft to supply the LF27 or give fire support for it, like how lazerlink works on most aircraft doing CAS or SEAD, that would be really cool. The tiltrotor would also be a multirole as it could get outfitted with weaponry, while maybe having somewhat of a cargo bay for ammunition or supplies. OR maybe I'm just biased towards the Osprey and would love to see your opinion on this lol

[@mr.mcmorbid]

Hey! I'm a maintainer! GA but still,, this is why I hate engineers! I knew y'all had it out for us! Awesome build and vid tho keep it coming.👍

[@benjaminwiese2994]

12:56 so can this can technically be a feature in the game

[@fjandro9646]

Great video, I really enjoyed as usual. You could make a series of "Building the best 1Gen fighter, 2Gen, 3Gen... 6Gen"

[@alg2990]

Doesn't this plane looks like the future European fighter, the FCAS ? If the FCAS is that efficient and that stealthy, it's gonna compete the F35 ❤

[@jocax188723]

TLDR: Messier builds a Checkmate (but better)

[@Tipsyweeb]

Messier really just made me want to invest in the defence industry, god dam it

[@dthree4496]

So well produced. Fucking diabolical Work

[@yakirfrankoveig8094]

What stops countries from covering their skys in radar beams using ground based and possibly satelites and have only rader detectors therfore you can use it more like eyes rather than ears meaning whatever the shape you will be able to see all of its cross section

[@mistyLmistake]

I somehow like this plane so much more then actual combat planes out there if I knew how, I would put it into wart hunter

[@ChristopherGriffin-ee2ol]

"For example, let's (uhm) rotate this cube." *accidentally creates the worlds best stealth fighter*

[@damongraham1398]

I'm curious what a B-1 with a YF-23 tail section RCS would be and look like?

[@rb2b-ld7sw]

This shares a lot of traits with the shadow sabre, like the all moving stabilizer and the wing shape.

[@Scrunkly_blorbo]

"combat has been a part of history longer than history itself" goes hard asf

[@alb9229]

Guy : How I Built a Stealth Fighter That's INVISIBLE on Radar . L-band radar : Sorry cheaf nobody told me you were supposed to be invisible .

[@egoalter1276]

Meter wavelength radar does detect low observable craft at long range, yes, thoigh still reduced, but it has positional accuracy utterly insufficient for direct engagement. You can vector fighters on it via GCI, but they will still need their own tracks on short wavelength radar or IRST to be able to engage.

[@alb9229]

@@egoalter1276 That is why on S-125 fire control is provided by the SNR-125 radar which functions in I/D bands and which visibly has enough tracking resolution to take down the F-117 ( one shot down one damaged ) . But i digress the joke was about the supposed stealth '' invisibility'' to radar which is just a myth , it all depends on the radiation aspect and the means of detection employed.

[@egoalter1276]

@@alb9229 Incorrect. Neva has the same same wavelength search radar as Dvina and Volkhov, P15 and P18, and these can detect low observable planes depending on altitude 30-150km out. Its tracking complex is the SNR125, which is an SNR75 turned 45 degrees, and uses the same 3cm wavelength as SNR75, and has no beneficial detection characteristic against low observable aircraft. The dm wavelength UV12 antenna is a radio trasciever for command guidance of the rocket, not a radar antenna. Its detection range against the nighthawk is estimated at 9km, just barely sufficient to allow for a kinematically possible shootdown. The way the battery in Serbia managed it is by observing the ingress rout of the F117 over multiple days, and deploying the battery with dormant radar right in its path, only radiating once the plane had no chance to notch the shot. What Neva was designed for, and what it is extremely good at is picking out returns from ground clutter and noise jamming. It does this by diagonally ofset mechanically scanning pulsedoppler radars for the guidance, with five separate beams, four of which aim to bracket the target aiming for lowest return signal. This last feature may aid it against targets with returns closer to background noise level, but it also has nothing to do with its radar's vawelength.

[@i3865]

Can you try to build a twin engine(one above another, like English lighning have) plane with separating drone (like Lockheed M-21).

[@gunstick711anims9]

“easier than you think” Lockheed Martin would like to know your location

[@Wayan.el.sanchez]

I was about to desing my first stealth plane in flyout, this comes in handy

[@LéonardTerret]

i love it, it made me think of an su-75

[@NeurodivergentSuperiority]

would look better with a bubble dome cockpit, but i still LOVE this design!

[@OzymandiasMC]

love this build and the video! reminds me of a slightly less sexy f22 or a more sexy yf23 lol

[@justcarcrazy]

22:16 Every AME's thoughts about every design engineer ever!

[@Splomf]

Send this to Lockheed Martin and ask them to take a basic look at its design. I'd like to see that they think of it as it comes from a hobby aircraft designer.

[@isaacteo4063]

That is basically Lockheed Martin and Northop Grumman had a baby

[@amorosogombe9650]

Looks perfectly credible.

[@alphaomega154]

you only need stealth because of LIMITATIONS. due to you cant go fast enough, and strong enough. it apply in anything in life. for example, if you are in a "spacecraft, that can be ignoring the gravity force, you could blitz into the space from the ground in a mere seconds. and go anywhere in the world in less than a minute. in and out of target area in seconds. get into target area in a blitz drop your payload or whatever stuff you have, and then blitz away in seconds. you dont need stealth at that state. even if you make huge blips in radars, nobody can do anything about you.

[@topphatt1312]

When he started talking about the Germans trying to bomb Britain I was terrified he’d start talking about the Dornier flying wing and call it the father of stealth technology or some bullshit.

[@stinbray1120]

was that the 4.5 gen fighter from couple vids ago also why did the front bay have to rotate couldn't you have put a hydraulic piston that lowers so it launches straight

[@jimbainianmonkey182]

Beautifully edited, bravo 👏

[@toastwitheggs0]

LF-27 would be a fighter aircraft armed with a laser...Cool name though

[@Pineapplr_]

thanks for this guide! It will be of great use to me!

[@kandd2591]

Good to know we got temple run and family guy clips included with it along with a picture of your cat

[@zimozim]

Amazing video man, keep it up!

[@Wraith_Of_The_Shadows]

incredible aircraft you made and incredible video! me myslef im working on as aircraft but it's based more on DSB-LK design. as of yet top speed is about 4.7 mach with turbofans i think? has a low bypass and currently has bit stability issue in the mode it would fly in at high speeds in reality but that feature isn't ingame yet so it's not a priority:D i wish you good luck and fun

[@ahmedmohamed-ku2xr]

this is such a beauty, i wish i could ever make planes as well as you.

[@Unkn0wnRxbxl]

Looks exactly like the f35 lookalike from GTA V

[@Not_RandomNoob52]

Next year later title: How I join Lockheed Martin and develop Stealth Fighter for USAF

[@SophisticatedFrog69]

If you put a turbine in your missles and make a custom input and key bimd to activate the engine you can make 6 km capable missles

[@Juan-f4x8i]

its very funny how that man is talking like if he was selling these to some military to buy them lol

[@biddinge8898]

I cant wait for you to make s varisble wing stealth sircraft.

[@gengisbohx_]

isn't having a 360 degree radar like flashing a light at night ? radar waves are detectables no ?

[@wolfpack4292]

absolutely interested in a turbine mechanics video. seriously.

[@user-pk3eo6pq6m]

10:15 about here happened a small misunderstanding. the circle In theory is the perfect stealth shape because looking straight ahead it perfectly splits the radar wave into obscurity. but if its just a bit off it wont work. the opposite works with the triangle pretty much. if hit head on the dot then it will reflect straight back to you but rest of the angles ends up just reflecting the beam away from the radar.

[@user-pk3eo6pq6m]

after a 2 hour break I watched the rest and like 24:04 I am assuming you are joking but like. no that can't be done it compromises the stealthiness. in a plane like F-22 the "camo" is just the paint crisping up over time. and roundels and such is left for lead aircrafts. but you can most likely change the material's component's a little bit to give a slightly different color and to help break up some radar waves into smaller individual waves.

[@safeish57]

loved that cinematic

[@kaiperdaens7670]

Me: That is called the F25 or F32. If you know you know.

[@JulianPanebianco-zp1li]

Looks like a 3D model I made on tinker cad I while back called the F-8 blizzard

[@OnyxIdol]

gorgeous plane

[@admiralrng6506]

you should rename this vid to "how to get a job at Lockheed"

[@rb2b-ld7sw]

It looks like the yca-01 Phoenix with the air intakes and v-tail.

[@rb2b-ld7sw]

the 6 gen ai command craft

[@MichaelStanton-e8i]

M82 never cease to amaze

[@mischievousone3421]

that Lf 27 looking a lot like the raiju in gta5 which is an amalgamation of the f22 and f35 and several earlier aircraft. kinda doubt you came up with that idea yourself

[@Aviator224]

Bro that intro goes hard