Metal Gear Solid 2 Lies

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Dan Rennie

Dan Rennie

Күн бұрын

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@mrdanrennie
@mrdanrennie Жыл бұрын
Full video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWacpWx-i812qs0
@BumpyHumpyDumpy
@BumpyHumpyDumpy Жыл бұрын
The key thing was the Tanker level being released on a Demo Disc for (I believe) PlayStation Magazine. So everyone that played the demo prior to release expected a full Solid Snake game. At the end of the day, I think it actually worked but it’s hard to introduce a new protagonist when you have such a…Solid one.
@ProGamingProphecy
@ProGamingProphecy Жыл бұрын
Lol Snake uses frequency 141.80 to deceive Raiden pretending to be someone he is not, just like Master Miller in MGS1 141.80.
@PWBS-yc6xi
@PWBS-yc6xi Жыл бұрын
Damn I never realized that
@HalfCracker4life
@HalfCracker4life Жыл бұрын
​@@PWBS-yc6xiI'm gonna have to break out the PS2 & play it again. I never realized that 😮
@PWBS-yc6xi
@PWBS-yc6xi Жыл бұрын
@@HalfCracker4life yeah I recently got the master collection and played it again that way. I still can’t believe how amazing these games are
@HalfCracker4life
@HalfCracker4life Жыл бұрын
@@PWBS-yc6xi a lot of interesting quotes from said games can be applied to life.
@noex100
@noex100 4 ай бұрын
Guess who uses that frequency in MGS3? LOL
@hyperbison
@hyperbison Жыл бұрын
Crazy enough, I was never mad that it was switched to Raiden. I was happy to be playing metal gear.
@computermun
@computermun Жыл бұрын
🙂
@Gwyndolin.Godefroy
@Gwyndolin.Godefroy Жыл бұрын
First time i played, i hated that i wasnt Snake after the intro. But hearing Rose and Raiden talk made me fall in love with the game. Also, do any of you know what day it is today?
@mrjkstark
@mrjkstark Жыл бұрын
It’s important. Try to remember.
@danielspalding8435
@danielspalding8435 Жыл бұрын
April 21st
@cainb4059
@cainb4059 Жыл бұрын
I found it funny that Raiden's real name is Jack, so we have another Jack and Rose, though no Titanic involved with these two lol
@Mario2980
@Mario2980 Жыл бұрын
​@@cainb4059Arsenal Gear will have to do for now!
@JoeZUGOOLA
@JoeZUGOOLA Жыл бұрын
Thise conversations were so god damn annoying. I have to speed skip then now ⏩⏩
@PurpleJell-O
@PurpleJell-O Жыл бұрын
I remember everyone hated him. Until MGS4. Then people were pissed they were playing as Old Snake and not the cool cyborg ninja.
@c-red4637
@c-red4637 Жыл бұрын
yeah kojima was trolling big time. hey we'll give you solid snake back! but he's old as crap, ha!
@ms.pirate
@ms.pirate Жыл бұрын
Sounds like double standards 😂 at least we got metal gear rising. Unfortunately, metal gear rising was too short 😔
@ms.pirate
@ms.pirate Жыл бұрын
​@@c-red4637 I heard from a documentary about metal gear solid, is that after mgs2, kojima got bored of solid snake and wanted to work on big boss. Everyone kept asking for solid snake again, and made mgs4. The game we see solid snake for the last time
@curiousfox4463
@curiousfox4463 Жыл бұрын
Hideo Kojima regretted making Solid Snake old.
@GRIMxREAFER
@GRIMxREAFER Жыл бұрын
I sure as hell wasn't. 😌 Team Snake for me.
@Rezetro
@Rezetro Жыл бұрын
Mgs2 is a masterpiece. So ahead of everything in 2001. The only other two games that come close also came out that same year. Final fantasy X and Silent Hill 2. Can't wait to play them again in the master collection.
@packlesswolf1
@packlesswolf1 Жыл бұрын
No it's not. 2 is the worst of the 4 games. 3 is a Masterpiece. 1 is almost a masterpiece and 4 is great. 2 is a massive letdown.
@christiansanchez4913
@christiansanchez4913 Жыл бұрын
And melee
@hipsriqbts3461
@hipsriqbts3461 Жыл бұрын
@@packlesswolf1 Nah i still prefer 2 over 3 and 4 but it's just my opinion
@AshPatterson
@AshPatterson Жыл бұрын
@@packlesswolf1trash opinion 2 is way better than 4 which is convoluted mess of a game.
@JackCrossSama
@JackCrossSama Жыл бұрын
3 is the best one
@brianbailey904
@brianbailey904 Жыл бұрын
It’s really funny listening to Raiden’s briefing in the beginning. What you’re told has so little bearing on what will actually happen.
@mrdanrennie
@mrdanrennie Жыл бұрын
Your mission is to rescue the president (the main antagonist kills him) and to stop Solid Snake (it’s not Solid Snake)
@We_Are_Borg_478
@We_Are_Borg_478 Жыл бұрын
​@@mrdanrennie Raiden, turn the game off right now.
@loco_logic
@loco_logic Жыл бұрын
​@@mrdanrennie plus, the 30 billion dollar ransom didn't even exist. It was just made it up to further incentivize Raiden on his mission. That lie wasn't even necessary, the A.I. is just petty lol
@Jameslawz
@Jameslawz Жыл бұрын
The plot twists in MGS2 was PHENOMINAL writing and worthy of a Hollywood script. The risk to play as the rookie Raiden whilst everyone else was in the loop showed how we knew NOTHING about this MGS universe like we thought we did in the previous game. This game was heavily underrated by fans at the time but as time heals, people begin to realise the importance this game had in the overall franchise, it is pivotal to the story narratives.
@juresaiyan
@juresaiyan Жыл бұрын
It's waaay beyond a Hollywood script
@brunoactis1104
@brunoactis1104 Жыл бұрын
​@@juresaiyanYeah, Hollywood never stood for quality, but for money.
@harleypaynter5848
@harleypaynter5848 Жыл бұрын
I was kinda upset that I didn't play as snake the whole game so afterwards, to get my fix, I played thru all the snake VR missions lol
@DrSlick
@DrSlick Жыл бұрын
I remember renting the game and being mad that I wasn’t Snake but also understanding that eventually new characters would come into play. Turns out Raiden was one of the greatest characters ever written.
@atutahi
@atutahi Жыл бұрын
It’s unbelievable how deeply thought out the player and character parallels are in mgs2. Every feeling you have toward Raiden and his situation is exactly as he feels toward himself. You’re pissed he isn’t snake? Guess what so is he, he is fully expecting to BE Snake, everyone told him he’d be snake, everyone expects him to be snake and when he finally gets his chance, the rug is pulled and he’s not snake. He’s just himself, and so are you. Both you and he need to realise you can’t go back and be someone else in this situation because if you want to survive you need to reconcile who you are and what you alone are meant for. Even if it means samurai sword battles against the president in an octopus suit and potentially allowing the Illuminati to control the world.
@saudude2174
@saudude2174 Жыл бұрын
i might be one of the few people that never felt disappointed that i'm not playing Snake in the plant part. I was dumbfounded and surprised, but I enjoyed every second of it. It felt fresh and being able to interact with Snake as a side character was extremely cool. Raiden fighting with Solidus and Snake dropping him stinger ammo was a treat I'll never forget. Codec conversations went from Snake being an oblivious pawn in MGS1, to the man who has most of the answers and guides your own character through MGS2 was an outstanding move by Kojima.
@sasuke.7251
@sasuke.7251 4 ай бұрын
My first mgs game was mgs2 it's still my favorite to this day and I must have completed it more than 30x. I actually loved playing as raiden and I got to appreciate the legendary solid snake later on as I got older
@Supdude3
@Supdude3 Жыл бұрын
As a kid, I was focused on enjoying the play style of Raiden. I liked his Punch Punch Kick Kick, his cartwheel, his acrobatic backward flip to rail hanging. He felt like a fun upgrade to Snake gameplay wise.
@badasstoad9419
@badasstoad9419 Жыл бұрын
I miss when Raiden was a human person and not known as the cyborg ninja.
@Vnix
@Vnix Жыл бұрын
Dude playing as Raiden was the biggest bait and switch that ever happened to me.
@Sinraiser
@Sinraiser Жыл бұрын
The beauty of this is that you feel that you are co-op with a legend and in the final shooting scene it's pure adrenaline rush. no need to question the artist's masterpiece.
@Paragon._.
@Paragon._. Жыл бұрын
It would be pretty funny if Konami decided to do some small amount of misinformation when promoting a MGS2 remake like the release date
@christiansantiago3007
@christiansantiago3007 Жыл бұрын
I think 2 was honestly one of the best games ever. The tanker mission with Snake kinda helped with the dissapointment. It felt as cool as MGS1 did when i first played it even with Raiden. Still shocked to find out Otacon has apparently always had rizz but its fatal
@birdquest8695
@birdquest8695 4 ай бұрын
I went into MGS2 knowing about Raiden being the main character, and I thought “let me give this character a chance” and I ended up liking him more than Snake.
@Chlorate299
@Chlorate299 Жыл бұрын
I remember playing the demo disc which was most of the tanker chapter, then being *very* confused when I got the full game and it started with the Plant.
@Farfigschiter.
@Farfigschiter. Жыл бұрын
I only played the PS3 version since I'm a young un and I never really cared that I played as Raiden, I had no prior knowledge to any game before mgs4
@sicskillz12
@sicskillz12 Жыл бұрын
When I was a kid I didn’t really think about it I just enjoyed the story and was excited to see a new character in the world that wasnt just a cutscene or a codec call
@jiggycalzone8585
@jiggycalzone8585 Жыл бұрын
"What? So you could say "arsenal gear!?" And then i launch into a 10 minute monologue with its own dedicated midway cutscene?"
@bizzaro1988
@bizzaro1988 Жыл бұрын
This game is a masterpiece
@AguyNamed_Shade
@AguyNamed_Shade Жыл бұрын
Really the only thing I don’t like about mgs2 is that this is the best solid snake design and you don’t get to see it that much
@BBQTree
@BBQTree Жыл бұрын
Recently played the game for the first time on OG hardware, I was confused but I honestly thought it was awesome. Calling Raiden “snake” for about 10 minutes into his intro and then suddenly he’s “Raiden” or “Jack”, very disorienting but so good at creating depth to a character so quickly.
@radicant7283
@radicant7283 Жыл бұрын
I must be the only person in the world who read the manuals that came with games. It tells you Raiden is a rookie FOXHOUND agent and pretty sure it implies you'll play as him in the controls section.
@Sephiroth08150
@Sephiroth08150 Жыл бұрын
I actually didn't mind playing as Raiden that much. Sure, he is not Snake, but he doesn't play any differently. I also noticed that, up until Arsenal Gear, every little victory doesn't stick (Vamp isn't dead, the Harrier destroyed reveal the MEtal Gear, sniping Vamp is still pointless because Emma still dies)... up until he gets an item that separates him from Snake, the HF Blade. And after that, things start looking up.
@SamuelHill-d9f
@SamuelHill-d9f Жыл бұрын
He grew on me, at first i was so mad but after you play it a few times and snake comes to the rescue, because you know hes snake before raiden it made it awesome
@blacksparrow15
@blacksparrow15 Жыл бұрын
I played the first MGS when I was way too young and never beat it but I played MGS2 when I was older and beat it so I didn’t have that frustration of being mislead and missing Snake too much,
@GrandSupremeDaddyo
@GrandSupremeDaddyo Жыл бұрын
In the beginning the game asks you if you played MGS1 under the guise of setting the difficulty for you, but what it is actually doing is checking if you're familiar with the story. If you aren't, the game starts on the Big Shell and you have no idea who this Pliskin guy is.
@Liquid278
@Liquid278 Жыл бұрын
Not playing as Snake was the whole point of MGS2, yeah sure I was mad at first but then I realised WHY we was playing as Raiden which then made me appreciate Raiden more, whilst also empowering my faith in Hideo and his team even more
@thegamingking2823
@thegamingking2823 Жыл бұрын
Playing as Raiden was the right call since it helped expanded the world and that final sequence was creepy and weird and I don’t think it would have had the same effect if you were snake
@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan
@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan Жыл бұрын
I didn't play it until HD collection because reviews said you weren't playing as Snake
@Ouroboros_609
@Ouroboros_609 Жыл бұрын
I never saw it that way, even before playing it when I was little. Like I got it but never really took a step back to see the big picture. It's like living the story rather than expecting the plot, overall MGS2 is one of my favorite games.
@benrussell5070
@benrussell5070 Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the demo was just the tanker area, further cementing the deception as, just like with mgs1, I got dozens of hours out of the demo before full release. (Side note, finally playing on after recuing the "DARPA chief" in mgs1 was pure, memorable bliss.)
@st.haborym
@st.haborym Жыл бұрын
I remember my buddy being super pissed that you didn't get to play as Snake in this game, lol.
@thesupersonicstig
@thesupersonicstig Жыл бұрын
You don't feel ready for this, and neither does Raiden.
@RatedRLoquender
@RatedRLoquender Жыл бұрын
Basically The Last of Us 2 marketing but in 2000, that´s why I love both these games, completely unexpected story.
@hunterwinters3739
@hunterwinters3739 Жыл бұрын
It made me want to rush through the game so I could hopefully play as Snake again lol
@magicD53
@magicD53 Жыл бұрын
Were you disappointed?
@Sirjesterx
@Sirjesterx Жыл бұрын
Same but I got over it before the end. And surprisingly I never bothered with the snake missions
@lMobiuscidl
@lMobiuscidl 6 ай бұрын
People hated Raiden because he was closer to them than Snake (the ideal hero).
@shrimpyeah
@shrimpyeah 8 ай бұрын
I really wish I could've played mgs2 without knowing anything about it
@andrewblancheiii4464
@andrewblancheiii4464 Жыл бұрын
I bought MGS2 Substance because I thought you played Snake disguised as Plisken. The VR missions were nice though.
@mrdanrennie
@mrdanrennie Жыл бұрын
Snake Tales were deff oddly advertised
@JayJay-nr2gk
@JayJay-nr2gk Жыл бұрын
I like raiden to as much as solid snake and don't forget he becomes a cyborg later on
@Warionator
@Warionator Жыл бұрын
By far my fevorite game, everything about it is 10/10 for me. Awesome story, music, gameplay, andI love Raiden
@tiandalton1922
@tiandalton1922 11 ай бұрын
Tbh.. when this came out.. I loved the idea to have a different character.
@Jamesfckoffscammers
@Jamesfckoffscammers Жыл бұрын
Yup, I remember my first time playing MGS2 thinking "uh, did Solid Snake actually die at the end of the Tanker Level?", but then realizing Solid Snake was still alive "um, so am I gonna play as him again? If so, when?" ...get to the end of the game "dammit." MGS4 comes out "oh snap, Raidens a bad ass" (moral of story, you start off disappointed, but then Raiden grows on you... "How dare you become cool!" 🤣).
@TheRealQuenny
@TheRealQuenny Жыл бұрын
I swear Kojima is a legit genius
@mattwithat
@mattwithat 6 ай бұрын
You know me better than myself.
@ryzekiv7147
@ryzekiv7147 Жыл бұрын
“Why was I the last person to know any of this?!” -Raiden “Woah, he is just like me, for real tho…” -the player, finally “Now you’re getting it…!” -Kojima
@rorydirks8549
@rorydirks8549 Жыл бұрын
Im old. 37. I played mgs2 when it came out when i was 16. Then the ps3 hd collection came out and i thought the same thing. The disconnection from solid snake is comparable to playing as this new kid who has no idea whats going on.
@seanfrance3182
@seanfrance3182 Жыл бұрын
I actually didn’t play MGS1 before I played MGS2 but I was still pissed when the switch came after the tanker lol
@King-ci8sk
@King-ci8sk Жыл бұрын
Are people really still talking about how upsetting it was to play as raiden instead of snake as if the entire idea itself wasn't a major theme of the game plot.
@playerplus5917
@playerplus5917 Жыл бұрын
Weird how I expected the complete opposite. I was so excited when I could finally play mgs2 after I beat the first one, since I really liked Rising. I was confused when I played as Snake at first because I hadn’t watched any trailers (The only thing I knew was that Raiden was the main character)
@kamikaze4172
@kamikaze4172 Жыл бұрын
Your frustration with not playing Snake 20 years ago is probably on par with Raiden's frustration of not knowing wtf is going on
@AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL
@AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL Жыл бұрын
Yeah such a good way of making your question all the truth.
@TZ_
@TZ_ Жыл бұрын
I never looked at it that way…
@PCProphecy
@PCProphecy Жыл бұрын
Raiden was told so many lies, he thought he was a Mortal Kombat character by MGS4, "I am now Lightning" Lol Raiden & Lightning... where have I heard that before 😂
@ezrawyvern6795
@ezrawyvern6795 10 ай бұрын
Honestly, I never hated Raiden. Even as a teenager I thought the amount of hate he received was well-blown out of proportion. It's funny that the people Kojima spoke the most to paid the least amount of attention.
@QuattroBajeena
@QuattroBajeena Жыл бұрын
Would be nice if they made a snake version of this game. So we get to play as solid snake story side aswell.
@xn9333
@xn9333 Жыл бұрын
Raidens hair nedded to be more crazy and expressive for his situation and it seemed too moppy and calmingly indifferent, look at the concept art if you think im wrong
@MrRaccoon-
@MrRaccoon- Жыл бұрын
Snake beater is the best trophy
@BlackWat3rGTR
@BlackWat3rGTR Жыл бұрын
Whoever sees this, you should watch "The most profound moment in gaming history", it's about this game and the future that Kojima saw coming.
@Baguenaudeur
@Baguenaudeur Жыл бұрын
"None of the reviews mentioned you'd be playing Raiden" Bro you obviously weren't there in 2001. Every video game magazine went nuts on this.
@mrdanrennie
@mrdanrennie Жыл бұрын
Prove it 😜 I looked at archives of reviews prior to the games launch date and saw a lot of reviews being very careful about spoilers
@Redmist-se7ld
@Redmist-se7ld Жыл бұрын
I love this game and mgs1&3&4
@jrmizzgaminglounge
@jrmizzgaminglounge Жыл бұрын
That was the whole point! Love this game ❤
@davidreeding9176
@davidreeding9176 Жыл бұрын
No, you were upset that you werent playing snake. I think raiden is cool as heck 😎.
@philliplumpkin6369
@philliplumpkin6369 Жыл бұрын
Well mgs2 was the first mg game i played so i really enjoyed it but i did always hate the way Raiden held is gun compared to snake cause snake holds it low away from his chest Raiden fuckin has his hands tucked into his chest and the gun held so high on his chest lol but i always did love his cart wheel jump
@rjhick1
@rjhick1 Жыл бұрын
Honestly as a kid I hated this game so much because of it. Got trolled so hard after the Tanker mission. Im like bruh who tf is this random Raiden dude 😂 Now after playing it, its honestly creepy how much of the storyline is relevant today considering how early this game came out. Even comparing to MGS4 the storyline is still more relevant.
@The_Humble_Hurricane
@The_Humble_Hurricane Жыл бұрын
There was no lie told.......not telling someone something isn't a lie😒🤦🏿 Snake simply told facts🤷🏿‍♂️💯
@femboyscotty23
@femboyscotty23 Жыл бұрын
We definitely should've been able to play as snake way more than we did but i still liked raiden alot. And i liked him again in mgs4. Hes a dope character imo. People are allowed to hate him, i just never understood why he was so hated he wasn't THAT bad lol.
@KBXband
@KBXband Жыл бұрын
Kinda wish the snake tales involved playing the plant chapter from beginning to when he dives after ocelot
@ChangedMyNameFinally69
@ChangedMyNameFinally69 Жыл бұрын
Kinda sucks people only started liking him after he became a generic badass ninja type
@femboyscotty23
@femboyscotty23 Жыл бұрын
@@KBXband yeah that would've been cool as shit
@femboyscotty23
@femboyscotty23 Жыл бұрын
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 I agree. Mgs 2 Raiden is my favorite. He's got the best codec calls lol 🤣 my favorite is when you call rose and she ask what your doing in the women's bathroom looking for peter and he says you never know he's gone aaawooollll annnnd 🤣
@ChangedMyNameFinally69
@ChangedMyNameFinally69 Жыл бұрын
@@femboyscotty23 The games had so much detail. Also you're kinda hot ngl
@franzmovi
@franzmovi Жыл бұрын
Nobody asked, nor the fans nor the journalists. People just got hyped on that demo and that trailer.
@Jay_G94
@Jay_G94 Жыл бұрын
In 2000s everyone I know said Raiden was gay!! We all wanted to play with Snake more.
@kayakadimsoy
@kayakadimsoy Жыл бұрын
I played MGS1 and MGS3 many times. But I only played MGS2 once. I never wanted to replay it. I guess it’s because of Raiden.
@c-red4637
@c-red4637 Жыл бұрын
lol throughout the entire game, all I wanted to do was play as snake. raiden didn't become a likable character until he became cyborg imo.
@BazookaTooth707
@BazookaTooth707 Жыл бұрын
I personally don't like Raider's character design or his voice. I would've much rather played as Snake the whole time.
@arsenaltengu01
@arsenaltengu01 Жыл бұрын
Even better is; Solid Snake is a liar too. Plisskin is part of the simulation. Everyone who told Raiden the truth dies
@jrddoubleu514
@jrddoubleu514 Жыл бұрын
Kojima is a master troll. Death Stranding is his Mona Lisa. Playing Death Stranding is like being in a toxic relationship where you're being abused but you can't help but stay and see it through.
@samtilden4452
@samtilden4452 Жыл бұрын
God I love death stranding. Didn’t realize I was supposed to play online😂 but lemme tell ya how rewarding it is beating that game solo
@B3llyk0
@B3llyk0 Жыл бұрын
​@@samtilden4452tbh people kinda made a big deal out of death stranding being a walking simulator. It made me think twice before buying the game, but when i finally did it turned out it was fun. Like creating your routes, climbing though steep mountains, building bridges, making your own paths is great. Seems people didn't pass the 2 hour mark of the game
@samtilden4452
@samtilden4452 Жыл бұрын
@@B3llyk0 well when his magnum opus is the largest video game series storyline every written, and adored by millions, sufficed yo say people had expectations. But, I can say I absolutely loved the game, it’s arguably one of my all time top 3
@PCProphecy
@PCProphecy Жыл бұрын
​@B3llyk0 It was a motorcycle simulator for me, which was fun and refreshing. I even learned how to navigate in BB territories without triggering them in the motorcycle.
@naturalmystic5098
@naturalmystic5098 Жыл бұрын
Nah. It was cool playing snake on the boat, then raiden.
@dantecry125
@dantecry125 Жыл бұрын
I freakin love MGS2 I definitely enjoyed raiden's story LOL his past and Solidus!
@JayJay-nr2gk
@JayJay-nr2gk Жыл бұрын
It's sad John cygan who voiced solidus snake passed away
@Liquid278
@Liquid278 Жыл бұрын
@@JayJay-nr2gknow I am hurt 😢
@geocooley7282
@geocooley7282 Жыл бұрын
I actually never got connected with Raiden.
@mrdanrennie
@mrdanrennie Жыл бұрын
Try playing again (:
@geocooley7282
@geocooley7282 Жыл бұрын
@@mrdanrennie I’ve beaten it a dozen times. I never connected. I found him very whiney. Even in Patriots when they tried to make him more badass. I never bought into him
@mrdanrennie
@mrdanrennie Жыл бұрын
I think it’s pretty cool that the game sets you up to be unexpectedly playing as Raiden (see full vid for more in-depth explanation)- but Raiden himself at the end rejects the player when he throws your name away on the dog tags. So wether you end up sympathizing with him or not, he still ultimately rejects your expectations on him.
@geocooley7282
@geocooley7282 Жыл бұрын
@@mrdanrennie I mean I was downright pissed when playing MGS2 when you get a fantastic opening with Snake on the bridge , smoking , rain , his dive and then all the sneaking around taking pictures and then suddenly “he’s dead” and suddenly playing as a dork.
@yukiterumi5756
@yukiterumi5756 Жыл бұрын
Mgs2 was my first so honestly im kinda the inverse of this with 3 and 4. (Still love d naked tho)
@cmac8722
@cmac8722 Жыл бұрын
Regardless of the character you play as it's still a great game.
@papavergil6784
@papavergil6784 8 ай бұрын
Still a good game though. A lot of people really liked Raiden in Revengeance.
@ofidiotabagista5259
@ofidiotabagista5259 Жыл бұрын
Frankly, I was frustrated because of the stupid superhero-like bosses in this game, not because of Raiden or the lies.
@mrdanrennie
@mrdanrennie Жыл бұрын
If these bosses were superhero like, I’d hate to hear what you think of the bosses in MGS1, MGS3, MGS4, MGR: Rising…
@ofidiotabagista5259
@ofidiotabagista5259 Жыл бұрын
@@mrdanrennie All games after MGS2 have superhero-like bosses and I was also disappointed with those games, especially MGS3. Rising was disappointing because of the humor, but it's not really a Kojima game AFAIK. MGS1 has revolverman, sniperwoman, tankman, chopperman, gatlingman, cyborgman. All over the top, but nothing supernatural. Psycho Mantis has ESP, which fits with the overall sci-fi setting. Fighting him surely is the weirdest part of the game, but it's not enough to break the immersion.
@0DTEVIXCALLS
@0DTEVIXCALLS Жыл бұрын
​​@@ofidiotabagista5259 Revolverman can bounce bullets like billiards, tankman/gatlingman survives multiple direct explosives, chopperman TAKES DOWN TWO F16s WITH A HIND-D AND SURVIVES CRASHING, cyborgman is literally an immortal cyborg ninja with stealth technology, and I can't believe you tried to handwave a literal psychic detective terrorist as "fitting the sci-fi theme" My friend MGS isn't "Sci-fi" it's Speculative Fiction with Supernatural Elements.
@ofidiotabagista5259
@ofidiotabagista5259 Жыл бұрын
@@0DTEVIXCALLS ESP has always been inside the Sci-Fi range, even if in its fringes. The other points are over-the-top, I agree, but there's no ghosts, photosynthetic old people, human/gekko hybrids, naked women breathing through their skin, vampires, astronauts who turn into flaming skulls, etc. Surviving lethal wounds and healing instantly is within usual videogame suspension of disbelief(as well as the guards' dumb AI and low memory). Nobody wants a hardcore stealth simulator. "My friend MGS isn't "Sci-fi" it's Speculative Fiction with Supernatural Elements." It surely is, but it didn't use to be. I'm forced to resort to the theory that everything after MGS1(including Twin Snakes) is a VR simulation.
@michaelmercedes5118
@michaelmercedes5118 Жыл бұрын
Indeed 🌹
@320speed
@320speed Жыл бұрын
Honestly, Raiden is Great! Especially in MGS4.
@La-hora-del-terror
@La-hora-del-terror Жыл бұрын
I don't like him in 4, at the end of MGS2 he was supposed to left all the war thing out...but here he is again after 5 years, in war again. When i was a kid in my first time in MGS4 i like see him again, now as an adult i don't like his participation in MGS4, he should be with Rose in his house with his son, not in a battlefield. I won't complain about seeing his face again because i like it...but it makes me sad seeing in that awful shape.
@bradread612
@bradread612 Жыл бұрын
I love this game this a dope classic and Raiden was dope
@ShadowTetsuo9999
@ShadowTetsuo9999 Жыл бұрын
Raiden made 2 my least favorite metal gear.
@reelfishstories
@reelfishstories Жыл бұрын
I didn’t like playing as an effeminate male
@Francisco-dx7hj
@Francisco-dx7hj Жыл бұрын
Then you play threw the whole game and the game was a lie. Was the first game a lie as well you can't trust anything. There is a vr diamond in in the corner of the metal gear while playing as snake in the beginning.
@erikdrummingod
@erikdrummingod Жыл бұрын
20 year old complaint. Grow up
@packlesswolf1
@packlesswolf1 Жыл бұрын
MGS2 is a massive letdown. We want to play as snake not some whiney Weeb.
@sakarinieminen3205
@sakarinieminen3205 2 ай бұрын
Connected to Raiden? Raiden is like the girlfriend in ny teenage years that I had zero connection. She is just pretty with an annoying voice but cause youre virgin you dont care yet
@mrdanrennie
@mrdanrennie 2 ай бұрын
@@sakarinieminen3205 Raiden is actually perfect foil to solid snake for the story Kojima wanted to tell
@sakarinieminen3205
@sakarinieminen3205 2 ай бұрын
@mrdanrennie maybe for the story he wanted to tell. It still doesnt mean that its the story anyone wanted to hear
@mrdanrennie
@mrdanrennie 2 ай бұрын
@@sakarinieminen3205 lol it’s okay to say you don’t like it, but we’re not gonna pretend it’s not a universally loved and respected game, essentially as time has passed.
@sakarinieminen3205
@sakarinieminen3205 2 ай бұрын
@@mrdanrennie psychology works in mysterious ways. Some people forcefully attach themselves because they are fan of the series and they have to like everything about it. I love the franchise but I'm safe to say that mgs 2, 4 and 5 suck ass. Storytelling, gameplay, mechanics. Its shit, and everyone knows it
@mrdanrennie
@mrdanrennie 2 ай бұрын
@@sakarinieminen3205bro you really just wrote “everyone is wrong but me” like just say you aren’t a fan, don’t speak for the entire fan base.
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