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[@stevenhanenburg6231]

"Heaviness" definitely has to do with the scale, key, and tone used. Most of Metallica's songs are in standard tuning

[@stevenhanenburg6231]

...

[@JoshCosta]

Changing the tuning makes the key higher...

[@Thismaninyourdreams]

Not to mention almost every Metallica song is in e minor

[@spencercowan8862]

+Josh Costa Truth be told, it doesn't. It just matters if you're playing within the key's boundaries and in the same scale. (Example: d harmonic minor scale, meaning only F notes would be sharped and the 7th degree of the scale would be raised) That is, if you want a song just in one key and scale.

[@bryceyelle6210]

+ThisMan not to mention metallica isnt that heavy

[@metfan4l]

Heaviness is not exclusive to one tuning, just as the tuning is not exclusive to sounding heavy or not. You can sound heavy as fuck in E standard and you can play soft melodic stuff on a low tuned 7-string. It's the right combination of both that makes things interesting.

[@rush2795]

somebody gets it

[@aric_unhinged]

THANK YOU

[@davidjaramillo5301]

+metfan4l i think something that is important to be heavy is the type of distortion you use... that is a big plus if you use the right combination

[@Tu10Parais]

THANK YOU

[@mandarin7728]

Like Metallica or Rob Scallon.

[@troylandzerep8045]

This actually worked with crazy train for some reason

[@ffta707]

cus he played it wrong

[@palehorseoftheapocalypse4366]

No, he played it right, and this comes from a guitarist who knows how to play the riff.

[@klsactually]

FFTA tuning a song up doesnt mean only tuning your guitar up. You have to substitute frets and chords to match the proper tuning.

[@jagsoul9363]

+Pale Horse of the Apocalypse he played it different than ne ....but it worked

[@Millacks]

i think beast and the harlot did too.

[@Granolie]

Slayer could tune up their guitars to frequencies that only dogs could hear, and they'd still be fucking metal as fuck.

[@chrismaxwell2274]

Not really

[@apdmtv]

It would be better for us.

[@Granolie]

Oh yeah, I forgot metal devolved into who has the slowest breakdowns, lowest tunings and who uses the most vocal filters to sound like they're balrog from lotr

[@earlmichen398]

+Nolan “Granolan” Richardson I am going to make a band set out to be one of the only metal bands that don't rely on down-tuning or breakdowns

[@Granolie]

I don't think I was being an elitist, I didn't say they were better the apotheosis of metal. They're just fuckin metal

[@andrebouwer4647]

*goes into crazy trains solo *breaks all the strings bcuz tuned up

[@flashgaming9668]

I broke my high e while I was tuned up 1 from standard idk how he doesn't break them 3 and a half up

[@fadedanxiety7589]

+FlashGaming thinner string gauge is my bet

[@NastyNelson93]

+FlashGaming good chance he pitch tuned up digitally

[@fadedanxiety7589]

+NelsonOfaGun93 crap you're right....that's most likely.... should have known... what he said

[@andrebouwer4647]

+Faded Anxiety thinner string gauge is all the more reason how its impressive he didnt break a string. Hell I cant even use 9 gauge without popping a few

[@jackpenelope3]

ozzy got turned into van Halen for a second

[@kayDawgTV]

THE GROUT pretty accurate description if you ask me haha

[@dumb371]

i was thinking the same thing lmao Crazy Panama

[@rocketqueen.3161]

Jared has to do this version under the name of “What if Van Halen covered Crazy Train?”

[@SpectreSoundStudios]

Interesting experiment! Kudos for including Breaking the Law!

[@soggyman3852]

Fuck you glen

[@Krzztl]

experiment? you guys have never heard of Vektor have you?

[@Nonon471]

Going to custom order a set of all high E strings now.

[@flix9124]

7 gauge

[@kaitheviking8468]

@@flix9124why not 3? Or 0,05?

[@broseph1076]

Cowboys from Heaven Sane Train Angel and the Harlot Giving Blood Following the Law Blueneck Even Colder The Good Trooper Waking the Angel No Blood and Thunder I tried

[@coolaustinpack]

Beast and the harlot 😂

[@itsFisch]

+Purple Shirted Eye Stabber Harlot is kinda negative still. So maybe Beast and the Harvard?

[@edwardwilliams8087]

+itsFisch Angel and the Virgin

[@broseph1076]

+Edward Williams Damn how didn't I come up of that one silly me

[@jbayley6963]

giving blood is my favourite

[@MarsWien]

Next: If Bring Me The Horizon was metal

[@FairyCRat]

BMTH is metal -_-

[@JaeTrill]

+Fairy Sea Rat Not anymore

[@metalismybusiness1500]

+Fairy Sea Rat Not really.

[@MarsWien]

Fairy Sea Rat Dude, it's a meme, get it? A joke. Bring Me The Horizon isn't that bad, but metalcore is just kinda a hated subgenre. Apologies for my inadequate example of English sentence structure.

[@spicynagaraya564]

+MarsWien hahaha. A bit of mistake. XD and everybody turns to experts. hahaha.

[@lorenzodeiaco8902]

1:57 hahahah he forgot to hit the strings

[@grzesiuo1493]

lol

[@aster965]

Homer Rocks he records the video after he records the audio

[@russelie]

lol

[@mcjunior011]

Slayer became even more scary

[@BlackMaria]

Pussy

[@broderick.8054]

1:56 Jared, you never told us you invented a self strumming guitar.

[@chrisfr2358]

The Mad Ginger he records audio and video separately

[@ricardourrutia4637]

I'm on a mission to capture justin.y Thanks Sherlock

[@DarkPeter]

Ricardo Urrutia wtf 😂😂😂

[@Bedroomrips]

Nooters For scooters he does this but said Manuel Gardner fernandes is fake lol

[@elontremmallester1492]

Yeh he pre records it and then just play the riff raw.

[@jaycejohansen8520]

Finally! Some BFMV! It sounded sick Djared

[@etnesc566]

BFMV?

[@jaycejohansen8520]

+ETN ESC bullet for my Valentine

[@sickcxnt9444]

My fav song from my second fav band! So wet now...

[@henomn3510]

+Jayce Johansen Used to be my warm up song!

[@ciren656]

+Jayce Johansen And the only riff he has played from them is first done by Slayer... Just sayin'

[@Knight-brolaire]

LoG and Pantera are proof that it's the riff itself is what makes the music heavy.

[@trainsanddominoes1]

Is this the opposite of djent? tnejd?

[@oscarquintero2209]

Djen't

[@Drai-man]

Djint

[@randomdude6361]

Dje

[@hybrid4117]

Djain't

[@DoggoWillink]

Vektjent.

[@Lazarus3737]

If anything, it sounds pretty power metal now if you ask me. Or at least maybe a bit more powerful.

[@themetalbutt2598]

The heaviness is in the riff. Proof here

[@sorentrexler3688]

Yep

[@murilogarcia5252]

True

[@gmod8033]

agreed

[@VS0097]

Truth

[@kegstahand]

+themetalbutt Mostly, but Cowboys from Hell tuned up sounds like Fallout Boy. I'm getting that a lot of the heaviness is in the drums and the guitar tone more than the note patterns, because some of these are still quite heavy but some went pop.

[@SamaelVR]

Those are some tight ass strings. Also fuck this tuning

[@trains644]

I think it sounded more inviting but still sounded like metal

[@coltonfrausell9047]

Definitely still heavy. I think Dillinger Escape Plan has already proven that standard tuning can still be heavy as shit.

[@JLujan4492]

+Colton Frausell Opeth as well

[@cameronclemmer5596]

+JBear4492 and megadeth

[@Querymonger]

+Colton Frausell Ensiferum

[@oiman5733]

+Colton Frausell Erm, Skeletonwitch.

[@Xaldin003]

Sylosis anyone? Heaviest band in standard that I know. Winds of Plague also has a few super heavy songs in standard.

[@deadmansvision5926]

Beast at the harlot sounds like asche zu asche by rammstein (:

[@psyniac]

+Dead Man's Vision 2016 Hah! It kind of does.

[@deadmansvision5926]

+psyniac :D

[@danielemascia4382]

oh shit ahahaha

[@skalled5051]

I just listened to that lol true

[@deadmansvision5926]

Tyler Gore :D

[@MoeJama2015]

Would be cool to hear Cannibal Corpse, Death, or Deicide riffs tuned up

[@pruple-tm]

Daniel Covers Music To Hell With God but tuned up XD

[@user-qb2qv3iq1i]

Their first songs were in e standard. You know that, right?

[@liam6298]

Any death metal song tuned up would be weeeeeird

[@BlackMaria]

Death Metal starter pack^

[@devonrascal2808]

No it wouldn't

[@egg3po]

its the drums that make it heavy...

[@cavegoat24]

+Evan Booker I was going to say the exact same.

[@jesslovesgrunge5741]

mhm I agree

[@ROCKSESBWNR]

Evan Booker no its the double pedal man metal wouldn't be metal without double pedals

[@hiro6406]

Evan Booker it only helps. A heavy riff always stays heavy

[@tomlee2262]

Jayce Black don't always need double bass to be metal but it helps with certain songs

[@megasalexandros331]

Dude how do you not break your higher strings tuned up like that? I break my high E if I tune it to an F...

[@gabrieldarien109]

+Callum Cheshire Then how do you do whole step bends?

[@seandunn3360]

+Gabriel Villar half step bends even lol

[@cardenw]

+Callum Cheshire might be worth checking your bridge and headstock to see if anything's causing them to shear off. My high strings used to snap because of my poor stringing technique.

[@LucasAlvesMusic]

+Jared Dines why not just use a capo? lot less dangerous

[@alexm2623]

+Callum Cheshire Height-compensated tuners and light string gauges will save you a lot of trouble when you tune up. Edit: And don't even bother if you have a Gibson-style neck that bends backwards at a 30 degree angle. You need a straight neck.

[@Thedogsbiscuit]

was anyone else irked by the fact he didn't play beast and the harlot right? lol

[@dannyrbk101]

I feel you bro

[@Nethrezar]

+Thedogsbiscuit Forget that, I was irked by how wrong the harmonization in "The Trooper" was.

[@joshl1350]

Me

[@joshl1350]

+Glacionman that whole album got me into a7x

[@roji556]

+Cracked Dagger The harmonization issue may be a side effect of the 3.5 steps up tuning since from what I can tell he did play it note for note.

[@wickedninja8599]

It actually sounded pretty cool!

[@wickedninja8599]

***** It's worth the try. I tend to play 10s - 46 myself.

[@kelbymiller7110]

and you played bullet for my valentine. good choice my friend 👌🏻🤘🏻

[@jayleemichael6663]

1:54 - A chord played without strumming.. skills bro xD

[@Mezurashii5]

Well, if you tune up you should make the bass audible.

[@Chris-ub3jb]

+Mezurashii5 furry owo

[@Mezurashii5]

Eric Birk Secretly, everyone is.

[@EBjeebies1081]

+Mezurashii5 Cringe

[@rljeric]

+Mezurashii5 Agreed.

[@Scriptorification]

+Mezurashii5 He should've done the bass in "The Trooper" in the right key. It sound like Slayer goddammit!

[@markthehammer]

Cowboys from hell would sound awesome even if played with a marimba

[@callecharlesalbert4736]

Waking the demon is the best part

[@jtspider599]

Charles Albert Calle IKR

[@mitchfindergeneral]

The myth is put to rest. You don't have to tune down to be heavy metal.

[@Angel-wo8gv]

+Mitchfynde Nor you need a seat on your bike, BUT IF FUCKING HELPS! xD

[@jamiemacmillan4056]

+Gabriel Knight having a seat on a bike can get in the way. I used to be one of those bmx kids and the only use I had in my seat was when I was eating, drinking or watching a friend

[@PorscheJon]

+Gabriel Knight wow good analogy!

[@mitchfindergeneral]

Gabriel Knight It SOMETIMES helps, yeah. I'll admit, tuning up 3 steps above standard doesn't give you a better heavy metal sound, but yeah. It's the riffs that matter most.

[@Angel-wo8gv]

Jamie MacMillan I don't really see a BMX bike as a "proper bike", but more like a tool to perform amazing tricks. But yeah, i see your point there :)

[@Wickerdrummer]

next vid: if Jd plays doom metal songs at 300% of their bpm, they are still doom?

[@Fluffy2772]

Heaviness is mostly in the tone and execution in my opinion. The same diminished lick can sound jazzy with a clean tone over a diminished chord in a jazz tune or heavy with distortion/overdrive over a distorted rhythm guitar.

[@chester51161]

I think it’s more in the riff itself but also the drums are really important imo

[@Nameless_Wretch]

wow your first breaking benjamin song... wow

[@nikolagochev9]

My reaction was the same

[@USHARDY]

He's a huge fan of Breaking Benjamin

[@Yirsi]

So awesome ^^

[@dpchiko17]

had the same reaction, I had to see it twice to believe it

[@nikolagochev9]

+Kushagra Jain Coooool

[@johnrodrigues2018]

sounds better high like that surprisingly (:

[@murilogarcia5252]

sounds amazing...better...in your opinion

[@ahmadirsyadadli]

John Rodrigues Ikr? I kinda surprisingly like Waking The Demon tuned up

[@Puppacha]

1:55 : the invisible strum chord change without physically changing the chord, only extreme musicians can do this :D :D

[@colesmith3714]

You have no idea how extremely happy I got when So Cold started playing.

[@PhilippeArantesTina]

hey jared, if you really want to prove your point, instead of up tunning "heavy" riffs why don´t you down tunning light/happy riffs? It would be more interesting i guess =)

[@SantomPh]

he did- there's a vid where he tunes popular songs to drop G

[@PhilippeArantesTina]

+SantomPh he did but it wasnt the most happy songs xpp like he plyaed iron man, enter the sandman etc... i would like to see some really pop crap you know xp

[@Angel-wo8gv]

+Philippe Tina This needs to happen.

[@awertyuiop8711]

+Philippe Tina He actually had his guitar tuned even higher than a guitalele lol Of course he should try that!

[@boberson33]

+Philippe Tina Why don't YOU do that yourself.

[@dionr1168]

What string gauge are you using for this? And could you try playing Djent with this tuning, so we can determine whether or not you REALLY need to tune super low to play Djent?

[@larry8030]

+Dion R The Revarend Djared Dines will do this

[@askingstuff]

+Mr Speed reference to the Billy gibbons set?

[@russellbrown4718]

+breadbasketbomb I've never tried the Reverend Willy sets, but 3 1/2 steps? I don't understand how he's not popping strings. More info please. : )

[@russellbrown4718]

Wow... I heard he used 7's but didn't know they would stretch that much. I suspect most sets of 9's would pop the high e at about 2 1/2 (maybe 3) steps. Thanks for the info.

[@DisturbedOneX]

I feel that one of the earlier songs to use that "djent" style could be the beginning of YYZ by Rush. Sounds like the kind of riff you'd hear just not tuned down super low.

[@tetrahedrontri]

I would love to see Blood and Thunder and the Trooper covered fully. Awesome songs on their own, but I like the tuning you used!

[@paulesteves5530]

It's really cool ! I love your videos !

[@joshjacobus4641]

imagine evisceration plauge

[@ijOkErStAr]

10.5 steps above original xD

[@KilianxFire27]

Beg for your wife you can't escape the strife, your cake was sealed today, merguez has spread, you pray for death, evisceration pork

[@williamwulffleff6829]

The riff structure makes the song.

[@SmallDickNinja]

Beautiful work mate!

[@onionmann]

excellent variety of songs bro

[@aaron3423]

well, this really... cheered me UP :D

[@dipperviewelectronics9510]

Lol

[@tysonreesmusic]

+aaronsdfghjkl Get out!

[@SilverTheGuitarist]

Gtfo

[@battmarn]

Crazy train sounds good in any tuning

[@beinmetal]

Those penguins were about to mosh

[@DragonixaHome]

I love your penguin collection

[@citizenparker]

It start sounding like old 8 bit games.

[@claudeman]

That ghost riff in Breaking The Law

[@jackkeaveny2762]

Heaviness is definitely in the riff itself these all sounded great especially Pantera

[@nicholasmaurutto5310]

0:43 the perfection doesn't exi-

[@JSatriani222]

SLAYER! The riffs still sound heavy even tuned up

[@AirshipFury]

Oh sure, the riff still sound metal, but imagine how hard it would be to sing these tunes.

[@hellrazer7681]

great choice of riffs!

[@jc40337]

Thank you so much for playing some Bullet for my Valentine! They're the band that first really got me into metal.

[@AquaHulKMUSIC]

The *Djent Stick* is still the Heaviest thing i've ever heard.

[@JulianWorden]

So tuning 3 1/2 steps up just makes you sound like A Day to Remember? Noted.

[@kieranlewis8716]

I love most of Dines' videos but I am giving this a special like because my favourite band is in this video

[@Rastard12345]

Jared must never stop making good shit!

[@Rillant]

How the hell did your strings not snap under that pressure? 3 1/2 step up? I'm already scared tuning up a whole step...

[@blazfuturama]

He probably used much much lighter strings like a 30 something on the very bottom

[@everyinchtheanimal]

Correct setup, lighter gauge strings and truss rod adjustment. If you setup properly you can pretty much tune however the fuck you like. Provided of course you're not talking down tuning some strings and uptuning others

[@definitelynotgore]

He may just have used a pedal like the drop pedal where you can go up half steps or whole steps, up to an octave up/down.

[@yannimetaxas9839]

+Eddie's Guitars ya, probably the drop tune pedal, from digitech, that fluff reviewed, so who knows, he probably just borrowed it from fluff, or just let fluff reamp the songs

[@user-lw8qy8kj7c]

+kiekoes replace e string with .007 gauge and move every string back one, ie. the .011 string goes in the A string slot, which allows you to tune up to A standard, although the high A string breaks easily

[@heidevolk_le_gueux]

Power metal / Neo-classical metal / Speed metal, are not tuned low.

[@slushthall]

That kind of metal is not what most people would call heavy

[@kellanmeeker]

+Jalal Goblin I love yngwie malmsteen, but he is in no way heavy

[@tomtik101]

+Daniel Samsen Speed metal is a considered one of the extreme metal genres, so I would say it's heavy enough if it's in the same family as thrash and death metal.

[@slushthall]

+tomtik101 Extreme does not equal heavy

[@tomtik101]

It does if you believe.

[@theheavymetalcowboy]

Thanks for including Bullet and Mastodon!! Two of my favourite bands!

[@prosleeper2000]

It's funny how the People who judge your style of playing can't play anything let alone a guitar . Your playing style is awesome , I've been watching your videos for quite a little while and I even watch some of the same ones cause I can never get tired of them . Keep it up man! Your videos are awesome !

[@vatroslavmorbidovic4105]

Yes, you sound more heavy when tuned down.

[@frego16]

+Vatroslav Morbidović It helps to sound more heavy, but the heaviness comes from the riff and not the tuning. This video is trying to show if only tuning down you sound heavy, which is fucking false.

[@MrGreengoblin1967]

+Francisco Fregona agreed some of these still sound brutal i think waking the demon actually sounded better this way

[@berengerchristy6256]

+MrGreengoblin1967 fucking love playing that song

[@godsofdespairity9788]

I agree with you. Waking The Demon by Bullet For My Valentine did sound better tuned up. It's a great concept that let's us know each persons interests.

[@96nikecha]

See, this is really interesting, because I did not think so.

[@mikegager]

none of these sounded that much different

[@Finnvbot]

+mike gager We were watching a different video, apparently.

[@mikegager]

+Finn V. Arthur i guess i dont consider any of those songs heavy in the first place

[@mikebarrett3982]

+mike gager raining blood is not a heavy song?

[@mikegager]

+Mike Barrett do you consider the trooper or crazy train to be heavy? raining blood is probably the heaviest on the list but wouldnt describe it as heavy and dont think jareds version sounds that much different

[@mikebarrett3982]

Raining blood i consider to be very heavy, and im sure most do too. I agree with most of the others not being heavy to begin with, but raining blood played in eflat and then how jared played it, there is a huge difference in sound. Thats my opinion anyway

[@metalcorewannabe7468]

waking the demon 2 tones up is reeeally fuckin good I love it good job Jared😉❤

[@marcogalli9136]

Metalcore Wannabe I prefer the original, but this is good too

[@metalcorewannabe7468]

Sure!!! originals are always better no doubt dude😉 \m/

[@martinulstein9087]

Great experiment. Great video. Thanks.

[@fluffytoaster427]

I was pretty happy to hear Breaking Benjamin lol

[@bigmeowster99]

I wonder how many strings he broke in the making of this video.

[@ZaGamer808]

I liked it...good job dude

[@jeffgurchak6908]

Been watching your videos & what a wonderful take on what you film. How are you not a famous guitarist is beyond me - maybe the penguin stuffed animals 😳

[@uza3]

1:55 He forgot to STRUM!!! LELEL Love the vid Jared!!

[@DrummingMoose]

Still sounds heavy to me

[@TheDekuNinja]

I'd say heaviness comes from all different parts working in tandem to create the sound.

[@michael987s2]

sounds like a ring tone from the early 2000s funny stuff man keep it up

[@brandonmut2432]

God I love that Cowboys From Hell riff.

[@boredboyx8182]

ure such a big fan of penguins.

[@Scmagmafreak]

+BoredBoy X omg, the penguins were my favorite part!

[@jameskimpton4184]

I had no idea what you were talking about. I didn't even notice them until I read this comment. I feel so silly.

[@gerritgeurs6093]

I had to read through the comments to make sure I wasn't repeating someone else's comment. #penguins

[@briantien7146]

nice to see some other bands in your videos, like BMFV, A7X (quite a few now) and even some BB

[@mitchinatr7093]

This worked pretty well for all of them!

[@phantomtearsca]

Imo crazy train sounded slightly funky

[@cavegoat24]

How about an "If BOTDF were killed in a fiery explosion" video?

[@PatTanzi]

Jared I had no idea you were a BFMV fan!! my favorite band for 5 straight years

[@Dmardak]

The fact that Vektor plays tuned half a step up is proof enough

[@osamabinjaco4768]

you should try making a brutal death song in e standard or higher

[@buzzsaw63]

Slayer still sounds heavy as hell

[@TimeLemur6]

This makes me think of older games like California Speed, Doom, etc. Sounds neat!

[@aaronhill2009]

Jared could make these riffs sound heavy on a ukulele. It's all in the technique and Jared has mastered it.

[@MrApocalisse]

still aggressive,but in a different way.

[@thebrownswordsman]

+Goldendroid exactly!!

[@cstubbssubs7746]

+Goldendroid well put XD

[@lucasvillaquiroz]

hey jared! could you make a demo video con how you get your guitar tone? do you use BIAS, axe fx , or what? 😅 cheers!

[@lucasvillaquiroz]

on*

[@jimmyginseng]

To be honest either way I was still bobbing my head so I guess it really doesn't matter. Good vid man

[@tallicaboy100]

still sounds fucking great imo 😀 nice job man!!

[@lyesryes]

1:55 I think a ghost played that chord...

[@sixstringlove8242]

Fucking hell, 3½ steps! Pray tell, how? Was a truss rod adjustment needed? I would almost have to believe that that much tension would change the setup drastically. How many high E strings were broken?

[@maxscardanelli6185]

😂😂😂👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻

[@bdwitt66]

Nah, he just used lighter strings.

[@sixstringlove8242]

bdwitt66 Even still, that is a hell of a tune up.

[@bdwitt66]

+Six String Löve Some of those Billy Gibbons 8-38 gauge strings would handle it real well.

[@blackdogleg]

+Six String Löve it is air guitar man, he is not actually playing in the video. watch at 1:53. Capo or adjusting the octave in the recording...don`t try tuning your guitar up 31/2 steps.. lol

[@roachxyz]

I loved it!

[@crim8374]

sounds awesome