Metro Vancouvers Future Transit Plans

[@StainerTheFirst]

Here's my brain dump about things I've learned over the past couple years about future projects in our region. Please enjoy this video while I go beat Factorio Space Age :)

[@gardenmice2516]

Haha of course you play factorio, I'm stuck in the space exploration mod but once I'm done that I'm getting space age

[@grantfraser5430]

Thanks, I did indeed find that informative.

[@DunDun-e43]

Great vid, last shot coulda be the more modern crs but great vids😊

[@RMTransit]

This is an absolutely superb video, and honestly I'm not sure I even knew that the new Pitt River bridge had those provisions, very cool! Fantastic shots and excellent commentary as well of course! There are also a bunch of provisions on the Canada Line, for the new YVR international terminal station, and for the two new underground stations in Vancouver! For the Port Mann bridge, the weight bearing should be sufficient for SkyTrain - though something higher speed ala the REM going down Highway 1 seems like a natural choice. Regarding the "streetcar" service in Vancouver proper, I do hope if built it is more light rail (see the Stockholm Tvarbanan for inspiration) and less streetcar, and so has a little more separation from traffic and also more capacity - which we certainly need parallel to the Canada Line! For a future "L" line in Surrey, I would not expect flyovers to the Expo Line, given the different demand profile I would doubt the line would be built to support 80M LIM powered SkyTrain (ultimately the Expo Line is already tight on capacity) and even if it did I would expect only a single "out of service" flyover to allow equipment movement because I doubt the Expo Line will be able to handle any additional branching capacity wise. I think more like would be to see another isolated Canada Line style line with smaller trains which would provide plenty of capacity for the run from South Surrey to City Centre and perhaps over to North Langley - connecting to a future Highway 1 Line and the Expo Line on the way. What's critical is that advocates push politicians and planners to continue to provision space for transit in the future, in particular new rail and bus yards are getting harder and harder to build with the shortage of industrial land and building them in low lying areas prone to liquefaction (ala Hamilton TC) seems risky given we want transit to be fully operational even in flood or earthquake scenarios. Perhaps in the future we will see some multi level facilities as in Singapore, and Vienna where you have a bus garage placed on a deck on top of railyards (something else we could be protecting for). Anyways, I've said a lot, but this was an excellent video and I think you should do more in this vain!

[@1224chrisng]

Hi Reece, can this REM-like line share track with Cascadia HSR? I know that MVX proposed a similar idea, and you wrote that it was unviable because their tunnel would need gentle grades, which is expensive. Would a bridge have less onerous requirements? Are there any other constraints that would make track sharing unviable? I know it checks out in terms of dimensions and electricals, but it would be difficult scheduling-wise. (Both Alstom Metropolis and CaHSR/Brightline West trains both have ~1200mm floor heights and are both ~3.2m wide, and the Metropolis can also handle 25kV AC. On the other hand, string diagrams show that high speed difference between trains will incur big frequency punishments, but this can be solved by just slowing the HSR trains down.) Are there any other constraints? Thanks!

[@chadgrant3355]

I was a surveyor on the Pitt, it also has an unused overpass on the west side that was to for the future skytrain as well.

[@Ispendtoomuchtimeontheinternet]

The good news is that the most recent Arbutus streetcar study shows examples of many European tram systems. Hopefully this means that we'll get true LRT instead of an Obama-era style streetcar.

[@RMTransit]

@@1224chrisng Floor heights and electrification are all workable in theory. The main issue is having enough slots and the fact that you can't optimize the right of way cost and service wise for both HSR and something like the REM or HK Tung Chung Line

[@1224chrisng]

@@RMTransit What kind of optimizations would you need for HSR? Thanks!

[@kale7852]

Maple ridge SkyTrain and the obvious planning for it has been acknowledged, I'm huffing up all the hopeium

[@stickynorth]

Make it so! Personally these type of projects should be built in advance of population booms not after. Or at least in coordination with local developers and politicos so that the transit option is always seamless for commuters not a patchwork mess of temporary buses until one day...

[@jacobs1047]

Maple ridge has the lowest fare pay rate anywhere translink serves, it's genuinely sad

[@Meowface.]

don’t hold your breath maple ridge will probably wait as long as langley did for a skytrain extension so.. 30 years ?

[@CanMav]

Maple Ridge might not get the Skytrain as their council has a history of not being forward thinking. It might stop in Pitt Meadows and that's about it.

[@smallstudiodesign]

The north side of the Fraser east of the Pitt River is definitely in need of Skytrain.

[@benwaardenburg]

Thank you so much for this! My partner lives near Willingdon and Hastings and seeing all those possible updates is sooooooo exciting! Knowing that the empty lot is part of a bigger picture is really cool and seeing all the historical stuff as well was so awesome.

[@thespiritsafe]

Great video! the obvious one to really push is the Gondola because the towers and stations can be built and cable strung up in the space of a couple of years and it will save Translink operating costs.

[@StainerTheFirst]

The gondola is going to be a game changer when it comes online. Looks like it's up for funding in the first phase of the 10 plan, so we should hear more about it very soon.

[@thespiritsafe]

@@StainerTheFirst here are some conference slides presented by Translink at a conference about Gondolas and Aerial ropeways. Very interesting read for those following the project. oitaf2024.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/2024-04-17_BMG_RapidTransit-LOW.pdf oitaf2024.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/2024-04-17_BMG-Making-Rapid-Transit-Connection.pdf?fbclid=IwY2xjawHF0_9leHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHdkyD6Ndug0MCj2H3fE4ZlFDz_9VpniCArm18A4ux7CHtpKuFHwhoXgTWg_aem_srV2hfvM8JuBJVas2EkC-g

[@stillinbeta]

I knew about the PoCo tail tracks, but there's so much in here I'd never heard of. Your videos look and sound so professional too, thank you so much for your hard work!

[@rainier0720]

The amount of research you've done for this video is insane. Massively impressed!

[@robertcartwright4374]

Beautiful and informative. It's very reassuring to hear of forethought from our government! Mostly one hears different.

[@StainerTheFirst]

Thankfully there are a lot of career transit planners who think long term instead of 4 year chunks. It's just trying to convince the politicians that these projects are worth it in the long term.

[@AmokCanuck]

This channel is criminally underrated. 1:01 This is the first I've heard about this plan for a new Vancouver OMC, I can't seem to find any information on it. I was under the impression that pocket track was for the eventual rerouting of the expo line allowing the seismically vulnerable terminal Ave test track to be torn down. Pretty convenient timing on this upload, I've been mapping out the future Lower Mainland transit in the past couple weeks, I'll shoot you and email with a link, I'd like to get your thoughts.

[@StainerTheFirst]

OMC 6 is currently in study phase, but I've seen a couple documents referring to it as there. Not sure if it's publicly available yet. If I stop uploading, assuming Translink got me.

[@CaptBurgerson]

Another Stainer Banger

[@Lamefoureyes]

Ahhhhhh this is so cool! I love these future-casting videos.

[@_Ank33_]

I love videos like these

[@stickynorth]

Brilliant and concise with great visuals. What more could one want in a transit video?! I personally wish these extension projects were already funded because most of them are long overdue. If it weren't for a few bad apple leaders dragging their feet on funding the GVRD would probably have accomplished this and a North Shore Skytrain line by now.

[@benrogerstillstone3891]

Amazing shots and commentary! Look forward to your next videos

[@DrekiTech]

Really cool video and I liked the optimistic tone. Sometimes we forget how forward thinking our cities can be when projects are on the scales of years or decades, so it's nice to put all the work into context.

[@StainerTheFirst]

The future looks promising :)

[@jermsp]

Mate these videos are so in depth, well researched, and the footage from each area! Must take a life time to rip around and drone all the stuff you don't have on file! Not sure how you do it, but really enjoy these not only as a form of entertainment and interest, but also, very good guide for home buyers rn. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@StainerTheFirst]

I'll be honest this one took me a while. It was supposed to come out in February, but I got distracted by the streetcar/lrt.

[@jermsp]

@ always love the update videos of the current projects but something crazy cool about looking ahead 25 years

[@davidbruce5377]

I think transit planners should look at the train tunnel that enters at Dawson St area and exits at Burrard inlet to cross to the North Shore. As an added story; in 1988, our friends rented a house on Gilmore in Burnaby and in the basement you could hear the train underneath the home. Further; while cleaning behind the fridge, a letter from the 50's was found stating; The noise you hear periodically is train traffic in a tunnel near your home. So cool!

[@MRMONKEY433]

its an operational tunnel its never gonna be bought

[@muskmelon]

such a joy to watch your video!!! so well made and a lot of informative subjects

[@TheGreaterDiscussions]

So many interesting bits of hidden infrastructure that almost nobody knows about. Not totally sure about the Expo flyover at KGB. I don't think the expo line has the capacity to handle another extension, especially with the likely alignment being from Guildford to Newton, meeting the Expo line in the middle. And thanks for the gondola shoutout!

[@KOZMOGRAFX]

Really fascinating and enlightening. Dang shame these extensions, though pre-planned, happen at a snail's pace... a guy can go from twenty something to post-retirement age waiting for things to take shape!!

[@naturallyherb]

4:14 - re: that construction between Braid and Lougheed - that is actually on the Expo Line, specifically the Production Way branch! Though it's worth mentioning that part of the Expo Line was among the original Millennium Line stations until the system-wide rerouting in October 2016 before Evergreen was opened!

[@StainerTheFirst]

You are absolutely correct, but in my mind that part will always be the Millennium line :)

[@raymondyu412]

They should do something about the 3rd platform at Stadium-Chinatown station.

[@TKomoski]

I live by tail track Brighouse, like your channel keep it up

[@lightlegion_]

Your creativity is fantastic!

[@christophermcdonald1122]

Excellent video. Priority one needs to be the Millennium Line from Arbutus to UBC. This will turbocharge ridership on the Millennium Line. Priority two (could be done at the same time as UBC) is the Millennium line from Coquitlam Central to Port Coquitlam. Easy, cheap extension. Priority three should be the Purple Line to Park Royal. This will bring rapid transit to the North Shore. The bonus is that it brings BCIT onto the SkyTrain network and provides another connection between the Millennium and Expo Lines.

[@StainerTheFirst]

That's what I would expect to happen as well. But we might see KGB jump the queue since Surrey really deserves better transit as well.

[@dominicgunderson]

Great video as always. The B-roll is especially fantastic.

[@markdoldon8852]

I admit i always assumed the King George tailtrack was a last minute change of plans, since i recall the original planning and build for the EXPO line being rushed and pretty controversial. Still remember my first trip on skytrain, leaving King George and getting off at what is now Science World to view the preview for EXPO 86. It seened SUCH a leap ahead for staid old Vancouver.

[@Gravitycrazy]

I work on the Broadway extension, and let me tell you we are still 3-4 years away from even considering opening

[@dwightseufert6491]

Complex project. Unforseen issues/delays pretty much always goes hand in hand with tunnelling, and simpler major infrastructure projects are not always great at being on time anyways, so you throw that in.... yikes.

[@StainerTheFirst]

Also the pandemic and related supply chain issues really messed up a lot of major projects. Can't build if the parts you need are stuck in transport.

[@RyanSadio]

Thank you for the video! Please keep it up!

[@adrianmakca]

Dude this was fascinating, thank you for the hard work

[@JohnSmith-fe1id]

Great video!

[@morbital]

Love this video! I'm fascinated by all the hidden "upgrades" and history present in our local infrastructure. A favourite example of this is the un-used access tunnel and stairs on the northwest corner of Dunsmuir and Beatty for Stadium Station!

[@llcn829]

An east-west line along SE Marine Drive is sorely needed.

[@roberthowell7095]

More direct to YVR from Coquitlam and new west.

[@MidnightVisions]

@7:00 West 1st is the old CP rail down town line. It wasn't built wide for a tram service, it was built wide for freight.

[@StainerTheFirst]

You're right. I should have explained it better by saying that when Olympic village was designed and built, 1st ave was made extra wide to allow for both a tram and car lanes.

[@capt.anthony8169]

Thanks for doing all this. Great presentation!

[@xalium]

Love this video. I had no idea about the streetcar project. Connectivity to SE marine drive and especially River District will be amazing!

[@TheRandCrews]

lost chance decades ago to build the Burrard Street Bridge with an under deck for a streetcar due to low money, could’ve ended up like the Bloor Viaduct in Toronto putting a rapid transit line underneath it. Maybe Arbutus Streetcar north along Burrard underground to downtown? Oh well rip.

[@G0sentrick]

Thanks!

[@StainerTheFirst]

Thank you very much!

[@creeper360bill]

Great video! I love all the drone / in person footage

[@alexrakic]

Could you also consider a future video on the BIRT line and go through the possible alignment from Part Royal to Metrotown. Your drone shots are incredible and add so much perspective. I live in the Tricities area and commute to North Van once a month and it's a massive pain right now, even when I go off-peak hours, brutal. The BIRT can't come fast enough.

[@StainerTheFirst]

Carrying on from your other question as well, yes I will do a full proper video about BIRT as soon as proper information is available. But that will probably be several years from now. I now your pain, I head to the shore weekly and am forced to drive as the transit connection from my house to where I go takes about 2.5 hours.

[@dennis2376]

Thank you and have a great week.

[@alexrakic]

Another incredible video with lots of detail. One thing I've always wondered is how will the elevated alignment work at Brentwood Station when the BIRT line crosses over. Will it go under the current elevated track, over, or somehow turn east and then turn back west to continue down. Elevated interchanges are not common, even the Commercial-Broadway station has unique geography which helps, but right on top of a big intersection, I don't know what the best solution is. Ideas? Are there any good examples from other cities?

[@StainerTheFirst]

Thanks! Looking into it there are no details for what station there will look like, it's all still very much in the exploratory phase. However there is a study being fast tracked on it currently that looks both at short term BRT and the long term ultimate solution. BRT stuff should be out middle of next years, with the full one out by Q2 2026.

[@jiraph52]

While all the provisions Skytrain expansion is great, it's a bit of a shame there isn't more planning from Translink for heavy rail intercity service. Maple Ridge and Langley are so far out that we're looking at 1hr+ travel times to reach downtown Vancouver. I'm not sure Skytrain is the most effective technology with which to serve those communities.

[@TheRandCrews]

technically skytrain is a heavy rail style system just with shorter and narrower vehicles, but i agree does need maybe a bigger version of the Skytrain with full size heavy rail electric commuter trains but also elevated which Metro Vancouver is vary familiar with. Hopefully it ends in Pacific Central being barely used as a station for two intercity services.

[@jiraph52]

@@TheRandCrews Personally I would not call Skytrain heavy rail simply because it is, as you said, so short and narrow. Heavy rail being something similar in size to the West Coast Express. I don't know if elevated is necessary, since it would be possible to utilize the existing CN track from Pacific Central Station through Burnaby. Ideally then over (or under) a new Fraser rail crossing into Surrey and continuing via Hwy 1 median at least to Abbotsford if not Chilliwack.

[@AlphineWolf]

It was probably originally intended for intercity heavy traffic but according to someone who had worked on the system, the issue was stability at high speeds and frequent stops so we ended up with a dumbed down version 😅. 2 versions were unveiled at expo 86. The Canadian version and the Japanese version. Canadian version gave up and just put wheels on the trains to stablize it. Japan on the other hand kept going, trying to research the original project but apparently it still running into the same issues 40 years ago.

[@StainerTheFirst]

The fun fact is that Maple ridge and Langley actually have significantly more ridership between each other. The vast majority of transit users east of the Fraser stay east. So it's not about getting everyone downtown as fast as possible.

[@jiraph52]

@@StainerTheFirst True, the hub and spoke is a bit of an outdated mindset. It is definitely good to get connected to the network even just for short trips like Langley-Surrey or Maple Ridge-Coquitlam, but I think it's a shame that longer-range trips are seemingly an afterthought for Metro Vancouver planners. I do wonder though, the vast majority of *transit* users may stay east of the Fraser, but is that the same for trips in general? To me, the traffic volumes during rush hour on Pitt River bridge and all Fraser crossings suggest otherwise. I'd wager this is only true because transit it not a viable option for many people coming from east of the Fraser since it's currently fairly disconnected from the 'rapid' network. If a trip is 40 mins by car (including sitting in traffic), or 1:20 on transit, it's not going to show as a high ridership route. Maybe once the expansions highlighted in your video come to fruition, the ridership trends will change!

[@chinarailfan]

Nice Video. It looks that there is no possibility of the line from Richmond to Metrotown .

[@statusworldchanger595]

As a visitor, it's unreal how busy marine drive in the north shore/park Royal was, & congested

[@brandonlewis6333]

Great video!!! I also heard rumblings from some fellas who work locally about a potential 2nd station to Poco. Apparently the city of Coquitlam bought land at Westwood where a gas station used to be. Curious if you could confirm that or not!

[@StainerTheFirst]

I can't confirm that, but it would make a lot of sense given how much development is planned for the area. There's a study underway currently for that line, so we should hear something in a year or 2.

[@eurodance]

Really well done!!

[@ramble-uk]

Fantastic video but you missed the oldest and most obvious one - the Burrard Street bridge ever since it was built back in 1932 has had provision for a lower deck to be added. This was intended to serve Vancouver's original streetcar system but was never put into use. In part that was because it would have needed a lifting section at the main span in order to let large commercial vessels pass, and that wasn't deemed a better solution than the old swing-span trestle they were already using. However there is space within the concrete bridge columns for the machinery and counterweights necessary to install it. Surely if it ever comes to pass that will be some sort of record for the most advance-planned transit infrastructure ever built.

[@StainerTheFirst]

Wow, yeah I was unaware of that, super neat plan!

[@ryansarai7899]

Another great video. It’s amazing to see how much greenery we have in all these Urban areas!

[@joelface]

Such a good video. I'd love to see you do a companion video that looks at plans further out, all the way to Abbotsford or Chilliwack.

[@StainerTheFirst]

I do want to do a video about what a regional heavy rail or high speed system would look like. It's just a big project that I need a good amount of time to get right.

[@joelface]

@@StainerTheFirst That is EXACTLY what I would love to see!

[@michaelwatson113]

The tail tracks are signs of forethought. Here in Edmonton, the LRT opened in 1978 with the terminus at the downtown Central station. It worked great to park trains to be ready to go into service. And, yes, the tail track minimized service disruptions when the line was extended.

[@StainerTheFirst]

I was in Edmonton recently and rode the LRT for the first time. I was pleasantly surprised at how well it works! Got to see some of the construction on the Valley Line West project as well, looks very promising.

[@adamconconi792]

Great video, amazing quality videos you put out

[@jakobcoosemans5696]

2:39 you know what else is massive?

[@6jefferson]

A future line north of Central Avenue from Metrotown, is planned to be tunneled down Willingdon, due to the downhill grade.

[@StainerTheFirst]

Source?

[@6jefferson]

@StainerTheFirst I can't retrieve my source at this time.

[@joshking9537]

more details?

[@6jefferson]

@joshking9537 The article I read said there could be an underground station between Kingsway and Grange. The tunnel would emerge before Deer Lake Parkway, as I recall.

[@aarong5996]

Great research, it’ll be awesome when all this is built, too bad It’ll be 30 years but at least the next generation will have an even better transit system.

[@craigjorgensen5055]

I hope that the province takes advantage of the existing right of way land assembly that had been done for the now abandoned plan for the Stormont Mcbride connector to have a through route for regional/high-speed rail to eliminate the tight turn coming off the Fraser river crossing

[@StainerTheFirst]

That's an idea worth looking into. I do want to make a video about HSR in our area and what it could look like as there are several options. But don't expect that video for at least a year, I'm slow.

[@nochancecw]

Got a cool channel here. Keep it up! 👍

[@abcdefghijk8223]

Great video as always! I've always thought they should have a skytrain from marine drive station to new west. It would be faster than light rail, though, if it's fully separated maybe it's not that big a difference.

[@StainerTheFirst]

Yeah it would be almost fully separated, so with timed level crossings it could really zip along.

[@vinnylaw]

that was SO INTERESTING!

[@nhark6]

I'd really like to see the south van rail line converted to transit. Too much focus seems to be put on getting downtown, cross town transit opens up a lot of opportunities. It currently takes me 15-20 minutes to drive from Vancouver to south Burnaby, 40-50 minutes to bike, and 90-120 minutes to bus with no early Saturday morning option.

[@agntdrake]

Hot take: the Arbutus corridor should just get Skytrain instead of a streetcar, and it should be tunneled downtown w/ stations serving the West End.

[@DunDun-e43]

Great vid

[@cduemo]

RE: King George Station A large grade separated switch set should be built just east of the station. There is a BC Hydro right of way right there. A set of tracks going NW to 100 or 104 ave to Guilford and a set going south to Surrey Memorial Hospital, King George Blvd. Newtown etc.

[@koohikoo]

hey that's supposed to say west not east. And also the subtitles say that the Pitt meadow bridge was built in 3 months

[@StainerTheFirst]

Directions are hard :) Fixed the caption for future viewers

[@marcblanchet678]

i have opined since about 92 why the train didnt run down the center of the freeway with parkades and bus depots at each freeway interchange. a modern interurban(the loss of which was a serious detriment to the entire lower mainland) and the train along that route could have a higher speed as its further between stops, straighter, and more flat.

[@ArK047]

One nitpick I have about the reliance on stubs is that we end up having two or three main lines where you can sit for a while, and a bunch of trips across the grain, so to speak, where you have to make several transfers. Imagine making a trip from north Coquitlam to Surrey, having to go under tracks at Lougheed and Columbia. It's pie-in-the-sky but I'd like a proper ring line that would curve from Coquitlam down to Delta rather than spurs that just bridge lines radiating from Waterfront.

[@StainerTheFirst]

As someone who travels through that area, I understand your pain. The good news is that the connection at Columbia will be rebuilt soon, making it slightly less bad.

[@McSnipes.78]

I love your work and you 🫡

[@samuelrobinson5754]

Brown Noser

[@terryleung622]

I think I heard that they are trying to build a sky train to UBC, not sure if that was just a myth.

[@MrDirtpaw]

Great video! Please, no street cars, just build more Skytrain routes or whatever you want to call it the new lines.

[@TheRandCrews]

Arbutus was chosen to be a corridor for the Canada Line to Marine Drive and later to Richmond and YVR. Well it chose Cambie for its straight connection and ability to cut and cover the cost of an underground railway. Arbutus is a winding path along a lot green spaces and suburban homes, would be hard to have an elevated stations and expensive with underground stations with heavy disruption and cost acquisition of nearby properties. A streetcar, rather a modern tramway would suffice with proper m traffic signaling with crossings, easier level accessibility, fitting in with the bike trail way and gardens sprouted beside the ROW. It was a former single track freight line, ample enough space with narrow Light rail vehicles

[@StainerTheFirst]

This, but also I should really start calling in an LRT since that's what it would probably be. It would only run on the street in a few areas, mostly downtown around Waterfront, whereas the rest is in a proper ROW.

[@Mistblown]

7:55 "This line would run from Park Royal on the North Shore WEST to Phibbs Exchange" I think you meant EAST lol

[@StainerTheFirst]

LMAO, ooops, yes it runs east.

[@nimyjewtron8718]

new patch notes sick

[@madflyer1093]

I’d love to see a sky train right down hwy 1 to chilliwack with massive park n rides with all your morning amenities for stations, Tims, starbs, mcds etc etc. have the food chains subsidize it.

[@anicecoldbepis]

But what if instead we built just one more lane bro?

[@StainerTheFirst]

I swear we're gonna fix traffic

[@evileyeball]

I live in Kelowna and have always loved Skytrain whenever I've had the chance to ride it. Last may we took a short trip to Vancouver with my mom and with our 5 year old autistic son who loves every form of transit we've ever exposed him to. I have to say he was rather Meh on sky train compared to me. haha But man did he sure love Sea bus We stayed near Gilmore station and rode from there to Commercial Broadway, then to Main Street-Science world, got off and went to Science world, Got back on to Waterfront, Took Sea bus, then came back and at my suggestion (much to the chagrin of my wife but with agreement of my mom due to time of day) Took expo line to Production way and then changed there to get back to Gilmore. it being afternoon rush hour at the time I believed that trains coming Inward on millennium line would be less busy than those going outward and keeping any seats we had on expo line rather than a transfer at Commercial Broadway would end up in a more pleasant ride even if it did mean slightly longer on the train. I might like to get your thoughts on my line of thinking as a person who uses the system much more than I do.

[@StainerTheFirst]

Seabus is the top tier of our system. Nothing beats a good late night Seabus ride with a mcflurry in hand.

[@evileyeball]

@@StainerTheFirst The thing he has yet to experience that I am excited for him to get to do sooner rather than later is experience the formerly worlds largest Double Ended RoRo Ferries by Taking a C Class Vessel across to see some family on the island. Despite how nice the new costal class are Nothing beats a good old C Class except for maybe Stena Danica II (Queen of Surrey I, Queen of the North) RIP

[@ww3k]

Very interesting! THanks

[@thesupercarvlogger2555]

Great video @StainerTheFirst may I ask you a few questions about the new future of Transit Projects of Metro Vancouver!!!!

[@StainerTheFirst]

Sure thing!

[@jayy256]

They should do a skytrain extension from 22nd Station to Queensborough, all the way to Richmond and Delta. Maybe it can meet up with the Canada Line.

[@ianinvancouverbc]

I beleive there is a pipeline underneath the linear park on Willingdon from the terminal on Burrard Inlet to the airport, that is why the houses have been demolished. If this is true it would be difficult to build a Skytrain style system along there

[@ALuimes]

The "Main" station on a future Hastings line would be a nightmare

[@gordonpi8674]

I hope they are planning connecting Brighouse stn in Richmond with King George stn in Surrey one day

[@Lueeee]

Any idea how they are going to fix the expo line? Looking at the stations it looks like they are built in a way to fit bigger trains probably up to 4x the length, but this would not improve the travel time much. If they make an express train that skips stops then I think we could finally beat the car in travel time, but I don't see space for a third or fourth track anywhere. I would also like to see the expo line go broadway that would make getting to kits and the Canada line from metrotown area way quicker, yes you will be able to do it by switching to the broadway line, but this will always cost you time.

[@StainerTheFirst]

There are no plans to add extra tracks. But the new 5 car mk5 trains are starting to go into service in the next couple months, and they will use the full 80 meter length of the platforms. That combined with decreased headway allows for higher capacity. To be fair the train is already faster than driving most of the time, only very few situations where driving is faster.

[@GWVcr84]

cool video, nothing about Richmond? 11:29 ...hope the owner found their dog!

[@StainerTheFirst]

I'm leaving Richmond for another video as there's lot to talk about. And yes, the owner was working out of a van right there, super friendly dog.

[@armaansingh7452]

It might be a better idea to create a new line to go down to Newton instead to reduce stress on the Expo line. 3 Options down the same direction on the line would be pushing it for sure. Could have this new line then go into Delta and then swing through the farmland to terminate at Richmond Brighouse providing easy airport access from Surrey and forming a train loop around much of Metro Vancouver. Could also split it off to serve Tsawwassen and the nearby Ferry Terminal as well as bring the line North-East from King George to serve that part of Surrey.

[@Marsh_MallowMan]

Do you have a source for the sale of the lot in burnaby at willingdon and hastings? i cannot find an article talking about the sale, only that council was directed to try and buy it.

[@StainerTheFirst]

I don't have a public link, I was informed by a source close to the project.

[@GoomanYT]

When I look at the Portman bridge I don’t see any specific designs choices to add rail to it. I know it was planned for but can anyone explain where on the bridge the rail would go. Thx

[@StainerTheFirst]

From what I've been told it sounds like rail would be added to the inner most lanes at the center of the bridge. Still hoping to see a proper design someday.

[@stevetordoff]

Great video. Did you find anything for the extension of the Canada Line from Richmond Brighouse?

[@StainerTheFirst]

Nothing concrete. It's definitely being monitored and isn't impossible, just not anytime soon from what I've read.

[@AlphineWolf]

Hopefully we can eventually upgrade the skytrain to maglev

[@SpittalGames]

I give this video 10 production way junkyard dogs out of 10.

[@StainerTheFirst]

Thank you for your generous rating

[@dougsrepair1060]

Of all the public interest projects that are on the agendas, public transit projects will make the area more accessible and livable. One area that needs immediate attention is another crossing to the North Shore communities. It would be wonderful if a line could be developed to accommodate a rail link all the way to Whistler ( think Norway) which could ease traffic from the sea to sky highway and the two vehicle crossings to the North Shore. That idea shouldn’t be as difficult to do as much of the track is currently in place once the service has reached the North Shore.

[@generalfive7255]

One thing I'm not sure about is where the platforms at Brentwood would go

[@StainerTheFirst]

Same. Looking forward to more information being released over the next few years about it.

[@xalium]

Is the extension of streetcars project (from Marine Drive station towards New West along SE marine dr) already in some approved phase of this plan or just a speculation?

[@StainerTheFirst]

It's in the long term planning phase, but active steps towards it are in the works. All the studies support it being a great idea, however funding is the main issue. With what few dollars we have to spend on transit, the funding is better used in ways that benefit the most riders, and the tram/lrt isn't that currently.

[@xalium]

@StainerTheFirst thanks for the info! Fingers crossed

[@fj12n3]

Anyone know where that overpass is at 4:55?

[@llcn829]

it’s the bridge at laurel st that goes over west 6th into Charleston park

[@davidbruce5377]

I heard a rumor, to connect Burrard Inlet with False Creek east - with canal similar to San Antonio, Texas

[@tuned.x]

11 Minutes ago is transcendent

[@AlphineWolf]

What are the odds of the ability to convert the existing Canada Line track to Skytrain technology?

[@StainerTheFirst]

Zero chance of it every being changed. While anything is possible for a price, it would never happen.

[@AlphineWolf]

​@@StainerTheFirstjust thinking if it was possible if they ever figure out the stability issue for urban maglev for the skytrain, then is the ability to convert the Canada Line over be a possibility. 😅

[@leopoldleoleo]

Translink is far from perfect, but boy do I wish we had some of that capacity for long term planning here in Montréal. The REM was an attempt to copy some of that sky train magic but the government seems to have learned many of the wrong lessons from the experience

[@newbietuber99966]

WCE could use some improved service times too

[@ivorscruton5121]

Transit expansion in Vancouver moves at a snails pace, hampered by environmental and feasibility studies, along with public opposition, politics and financial issues. Since leaving Canada in 2015 for Thailand, Bangkok has probably built and commissioned more rapid transit than Vancouver has in total. Investment in urban infrastructure in Vancouver seems to be low priority and reactive, rather than projective.

[@desistarrecords]

Your video quality is really good, do you shoot yourself.? Also, where do you get all this info from?

[@StainerTheFirst]

Thanks! I do all the shooting/editing/research. The vast majority of the information is available through public sources, it just takes time to read through everything and connect the dots. Other info comes from talking to sources close to these projects.

[@MRMONKEY433]

The area south of metrotown station and the entire corridor will not be developed due to the infrastructure running underneath the space