Mexico World Cup 1986 - England vs Argentina. Full time analysis from BBC broadcast

[@strzxgvnuvwvfld3597]

It's interesting watching this very balanced analysis compared to the modern belief that we would've won that game (and probably the World Cup!) if it wasn't for Maradona's handball. Hughes and Venebles both are rightly critical of England's performance. We did very little until Barnes came on, they kept Lineker out of the game and we were lucky not to conceed a third. Even the wonder goal is often put down to an England player not taking him out, but it's pointed out here that Fenwick attempts to do that and Maradona is strong enough to stay on his feet (probably essential to his game in an era where skillful players didn't have the protection they have today).

[@jk5335]

Familiar story for England. Get to the later stages against a big team and suddenly the mentality and approach changes . I've got the full match and some of the Argentina team were average or just good at best. England should have beat them. Diego carried them, didn't realise how good he was until I watched this match in full and saw the level of his supporting cast.

[@kailashpatel1706]

@@jk5335 Sorry I don't agree with that...that was not an average Argentine team, they beat West Germany when Maradona was not playing well or doing very little...England lost against Portugal in the group stage (a game they would have won and swept the group if only Robson had set them up as they had been playing pre tourney)...The right team won...that is the best team and Venables et al all acknowledge that..Why can't we say we had an good WC and played some excellent attacking football which we did once the structure was in place going out to eventual winners..the only player in the England team that should not have played this match was Fenwick who was club defender at best..bringing Barnes and Waddle on later made sense, to have started with them would have meant a repeat of the group stage issues,,,When Waddle was played in the first two matches he just cramped up the space (either you played him on the right with licence to cut in or as a sub)...Possibly Wilkins could have been brought in as a screener for the defence..

[@kailashpatel1706]

Argentina did their homework, policed the flanks..Stevens/Steven never combined and Hodge was negated..That was not Maradona doing that..

[@xpat73]

Fenwick had already been booked for a terrible tackle on Maradona. So he had to be careful.

[@anggungunara]

​@@kailashpatel1706Argentina as a team probably exceeded their potentials in 1986, because on paper, if you take out Maradona, Valdano, and very few other stars, they look very average, compared to many other teams in this world cup, or compared to usual Argentina's star-studded WC squad. And yes, I thought their last WC winning squad looked average too for their standard, but maybe they work best that way, when they bring only few big stars and lots of unproven talents. Their galacticos from mid 1990s to mid 2010s were never that effective.

[@imgoingtocountdownfromthir4580]

Great memories, even though the result wasn't what i was hoping for, very bittersweet as well, i was watching this as a 15 year old with my dad, it was on a Sunday evening about 8-9pm....There was a bit of an argument between my mum and 2 sisters vs myself and my dad, the dispute was who was going to watch the World Cup quarter final or Hart to Hart on the colour TV in the living room or upstairs on a Black and white portable telly....Suffice to say, me and my dad "enjoyed" watching England lose to Argentina in glorious technicolour! 😂😂😂...Both mum and dad are no longer here, but it's a great memory to hang onto.

[@dirkbogarde44]

Nice to hear Emlyn's voice again. Died way too young.

[@tommycanavan8285]

Met him once ...realy nice guy ..RIP Crazyhorse

[@jorgeponce5512]

You mean Emlyn Hughes?

[@WillScarlet1991]

Loved him on A Question of Sport ♥️

[@jorgeponce5512]

@@GordonCaledonia Gordo Culedonna

[@Ruda-n4h]

@@GordonCaledonia I thought he was rather irritating and so did by all accounts some of his England and Liverpool colleagues. He fell out with Tommy Smith big time over the game throwing affair and his attempt to get Smith out of the Liverpool team behind his back.

[@paulc5935]

You have to say how respectful are the panel after the game despite one of the worst decisions in World Cup history

[@2011hwalker]

British pundits are actually very level handed by comparison to the bias commentary you see in other countries.

[@seanq5223]

Totally agree. The melodrama and hysteria that accompanies a bad England performance or if they get knocked out of a tournament is akin to the reaction in the event of a natural disaster on an epic scale. It's totally disproportionate and out of kilter.

[@tarekel-maddah1737]

everyone watching it first time thought he headed it. Only when it was replayed people figured out.

[@jk5335]

@paulc5935 I think they were also very disappointed with England's approach until 2-0 down and that took some of the anger off the handball. A lot of people who talk about this handball now probably don't remember the full game performance or like me, didn't see it live.

[@f5xTPCOgGaCRVaovOuoBc8tAf1x8jj]

One simply had to be, due to the second goal.

[@robnewton3368]

Despite the situation and disappointment, Bobby Robson saw things very clearly and honestly in his assessment.

[@Sandoz-tq7qj]

The entire English team and Bobby Robson bahaved gentleman . Maradona cheated .

[@Ruda-n4h]

@@Sandoz-tq7qj Fenwick spent the entire game fouling Maradona and showed he was way out his depth.

[@markpaulo269]

​@@Ruda-n4hobviously didn't foul him enough

[@GordonCaledonia]

@@markpaulo269 Fouling Maradona was pointless. In 1986 Maradona WAS football, he clowned the world in style, no one will ever perform at that level in a World Cup, only Garrincha in 1962 was on that level, he clowned England in the quarter finals! They look like a pub team in the second half of that match, Garrincha looks like something from the Astral Plane!

[@Ruda-n4h]

@@GordonCaledonia Pele 1970, Johan Cruyff 1974.

[@stewartburns2473]

R.I.P Terry Venables

[@duneideannaer5990]

But to hell withBobby Robson or Emlyn Hughes???

[@baggy79]

Like the comment says RIP TERRY VENABLES​@duneideannaer5990

[@lingolarker9318]

Yes indeed. A still underrated manager. He was fantastic. So unlucky during Euro 96. Sorry but we were the best team in the competition.

[@jsquire5pa]

@@lingolarker9318I think Spain might disagree with you! 😂

[@robk181]

Watch the game again, England did virtually nothing until Barnes came on...

[@Ruda-n4h]

Correct. Argentina imprisoned them with a sweeper and 5 in midfield. Hoddle once again anonymous.

[@PrivateBenjamin-vw8xy]

but still didn't concede enough goals to lose, until cheating occurred. Football is about scoring goals.

[@AbdiqalisMohamud010]

It's crazy how the post match talking points are similar to England's loss to Spain at the 2024 Euros....

[@davidbridges7033]

Maradona was a genius- even tho the goal was handball, the anticipation was insane- he knew the ball was breaking towards Shilton and he knew the only way he could get the ball in the net was to get a hand on it. He then did this in a way that the ref and linesman didn’t pick up on- amazing instinct

[@TheLadoma]

he done it before this

[@stephenmacdonald4443]

I loved when barnes came on. Such positive play and giving diego and co a lot to think about the stretch. On watching the replay years later .i. amazed how slow the game was. Watching live was edge of seats stuff

[@jk5335]

I didn't watch this live, but it interesting that the pundits were obviously unhappy with the handball but were more disappointed with and blamed England's lack of attacking urgency until it was too late. A familiar story!

[@bocjagne2878]

@@jk5335 I totally agree. England didn't start playing until they were two down.

[@southace]

Venables and Hughes showing Maradona the respect he deserves

[@Ruda-n4h]

He didn't deserve any.

[@dlbia9569]

Maradona is a scumbag

[@stavrosavgousti8887]

Maradona was from a different planet. Bobby Robson so gracious in defeat along with Venables and Hughes. I will always wonder what the result would have been if John Barnes played from the start. He was world class and my favourite player of all time.

[@mikeberger4199]

Für mich war absolut unverständlich, daß England in der Vorrunde viel zu wenig machte. Es wäre mehr dringewesen für England!

[@PrivateBenjamin-vw8xy]

Maradona was certainly on a different planet for most of his post footballing career🙂

[@leeturton9254]

Dad didn't take that game well...straight to the boozer we didn't see him for about 2 week 😂

[@drunkensailor112]

😂😂😂😂

[@jackkenefick2696]

Proper way to cope

[@johnpettigrew83]

Thirsty family man!​@@jackkenefick2696

[@jimb9063]

Heh, mine was yelling offside, he wouldn't listen to me saying no but it was handball. Spoilt the joy of seeing one the best goals of all time a bit later.

[@garyhunt8067]

Remember the match like it was yesterday 😮

[@violoncelo1000]

First World Cup that i really followed as a kid. I was 10. Because Portugal was there too, and we also beat England.. Well, we only beat England 😅😅😅 From 82, i just remember some games from Brasil , i was 6

[@mikeberger4199]

​@@violoncelo1000⚽️ Dafür habt ihr gegen Polen und Marokko verloren...

[@dude9038]

That music outro at the end is awesome. A golden timestamp of a wonderful era

[@andystacey2687]

Remember watching this with my brother and dad and mum, I was only nine my brother was 15 and I was drinking Top Deck Shandy 😂 then John Barnes came on who was at Watford at the time and being as my grandfather was a life long fan my mum kept saying he would never have thought a Watford player would be at the World Cup

[@user-li3fr8jl3b]

Sad that your grandad didnt get to see it ❤

[@sico6246]

far superior to top deck limeade and lager

[@kevchesters1194]

Had dinner sitting next to Hughes once. Lovely fella.

[@robertbourke8618]

Was he on the telly

[@jorgeponce5512]

8:49 "...he has Burruchaga to his left, Valdano to his left, and he won't need any of them."

[@Chu-vg2yu]

Hahaha .... the best comment or commentary.

[@dj71162]

They would have easily chopped him down at numerous points but decided not to to avoid getting booked. A bad decision in hindsight.

[@jorgeponce5512]

@@dj71162 So easy even you could have done it.

[@its_rick_james_bich2575]

The skill, the composure on the ball at such a high level was truly mesmerising..he went passed players and offered the ball like they weren’t there..John Barnes…what a legend!👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@lemat8558]

Hughes, miss him, such a great player.

[@Niala8419]

Bunch of gents there. Time has not embarrassed these English football legends.

[@johnmunro4952]

The best and worst goals in world cup history. Amazing.

[@Mantis_Toboggan_MD.]

Correction: The best & second best goals in World Cup history.

[@zumizm1]

Saudi Arabia's goal vs the Belgians greatest imo

[@Ruda-n4h]

@@Mantis_Toboggan_MD. First 'no goal' better than Cruyff v Brazil 1974?

[@theguichardsadventures3720]

Not a tone deaf female tick box in sight! Heaven!

[@mikeberger4199]

​@@zumizm1🙋🏻‍♂️ Du meinst bei der WM 1994?

[@tarekel-maddah1737]

me 6 years old watching that game made me wear a black shorts and a blue t-shirt the whole summer ... I can't remember everything but that I adored Maradona to the bones.

[@OhJonahII]

Thanks for sharing this coverage, wonderful to see it and compare with modern TV analysis. It seems that there's some coverage missing in the clip of analysis of Maradona's second goal, an unfortunate cut. Maybe the tape was damaged? It's a shame because it's obviously the best bit

[@jk5335]

@OhJonahII hi, KZbin blocked a section analysing the 2nd goal. Maybe FIFA have some specific copyright over that goal?? Greedy criminals. But at least they have let play in the outro

[@OhJonahII]

@@jk5335 Thanks for explaining 🙂

[@philipbramley3213]

Diego Armando Maradona… He was the best player ever to grace the greatest game in a time when players were allowed to hack the life out of anyone (I know Pele and Cruyff had the same thing) but he was a level above. Imagine how good he would have been if he had played in this era!!! It was the first World Cup I remember watching and he was Mexico 86!!! On a separate note I wish England had a Bobby Robson in charge of our current squad!! Not the boring 1 dimensional manager Southgate!!! RIP Robbo and Maradona

[@nigelsouthworth5577]

Cruyff changed the game for ever. For me, he is the all time greatest for his skills as a player an coach.

[@chiselcheswick5673]

He was a cheating druggy.. no class.

[@mikeberger4199]

Robson war noch ein Trainertyp! 👍 Solche findet man in der heutigen Generation nicht mehr so oft!

[@myblues528]

That chance Lineker had after his goal was possibly the best bit of defending I've seen and it 2024 now.

[@81chipper89]

You have to watch it a couple of times to realise what happened, it was great defending from the Argentine lad.

[@rosssloman1309]

Des is 43 here. Remarkable.

[@josssmith]

I'm coming up to 42 and he looks old enough here to be my dad

[@GordonCaledonia]

His moustache is also 43 years old here.

[@ChubbyChecker182]

Des is 43, his moustache is 72

[@GordonCaledonia]

@@ChubbyChecker182 Depends on which type of carbon dating techniques are used. Remnants of Archie MacPherson's orange afro were dated at around 120 million years old in 2017. The mind boggles.

[@TimWrightDJ]

@@josssmith Haha, same. I'm just 40 and Des still looks like he could be my dad now, even here!

[@Bootrosgali]

Dont forget Maradona has the ball on a string, sometimes glued to his (always left) foot. That, and timed strength

[@BONDSZE]

Give it up to commentators for showing respect to the Maradona, even though they feel cheated by the handball.

[@Bootrosgali]

I would have loved extra time, WE WOULD HAVE GOT MORE CLASSIC MARADONA MOMENTS!!!

[@pmurpy061]

Hand or no hand how did shilton not get that ball above a 5 foot 5 inch man?

[@javiercortes5232]

It was my first idea when I watched this game at the Aztec Stadium (from my skybox located in that corner). Greetings from Mexico. After that, I saw the greatest goal of the century (I also watched from this same place Pelé and the wonder team against a very tired Italy)

[@dude9038]

He wasn't quick enough, by the time he came to meet the ball he had no chance, Maradona too fast and had an incredible jump, with the hand of god it made it impossible for Shilton

[@kevanmcnay3079]

The England defenders ball watching instead of keeping an eye on the little cheat didn’t help

[@aidtom3503]

Bobby Robson imo is the greatest manager England ever had, seemed to be a very nice man. From irish fan,liverpool fan.

[@DavoBirmingham2]

“It’s like the boxer who waits to get hit on the chin before he fights back… England were too negative early on.” Is this 1986 or 2024? 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@stooni13]

100% thought the same thing. so far in 2024 England have been woeful at 0-0, and actually pretty decent when they are down 0-1. They just need to concede to seemingly get going

[@MB-xq9hu]

Argentina deserved this win, England was lucky to have lost by only one goal. My Germans came close to winning the final with a courageous comeback that England didn't have the heart to accomplish, they instead chose to complain for the past almost 40 years now. Congratulations on their persistence!

[@two4wheels]

Undefeated in Wars though ;)

[@MB-xq9hu]

@@two4wheels Wait what??!! Then what do I celebrate every 4th of July??

[@nigelsouthworth5577]

Maybe England wore them out, have you considered this? But congratulations on your Manschafft, you obviously like to stroke it.

[@MB-ji6qi]

​@@nigelsouthworth5577turns you on the thought? Weirdo!

[@stanmonzon5788]

@@MB-xq9hu that was English in America beating English who came over to fight.

[@saccasantony4040]

What a shame var wasn't around what would emilyn and terry have said if an England had used their hand like diego did ?

[@strzxgvnuvwvfld3597]

Pretty sure Fenwick elbows Maradona in the face early in this game, so we'd have been down to 10 men in the blazing heat. It could've turned out worse than it did

[@thedualtransition6070]

Watching actual real experts do analysis is a joy!

[@TheRealMike1976]

Rather than the "experts" at the Euros🤣

[@ktkee7161]

It's ridiculous how managers never do punditry these days, instead we get people who've never had the guts to do it, or people who tried it for five minutes and were a disaster.

[@paulparker1137]

If VAR was around then the goal probably would still have been given

[@danielcalero3929]

the same for England's goal in the '66 final

[@mattp5305]

‘One of the best goals we have seen in this tournament’ Talk about an understatement, haha

[@MrPaulc222]

When that final whistle blew, I was furious. I got up to go down the pub. As I started walking along the garden path, my next door neighbour's door slammed, and we went to the pub together and got pissed while slagging off Maradona. The only Englishman who did well from that was Steve Hodge.

[@Sweet.G]

His hand was on top of his head,, great goal..

[@seasiderover10]

True for Venables and I thought that too from the first time I saw it, Shilton had an opportunity to knock not just Maradona but Argentina out of the cup and that lack of ruthlessness is the difference at the top. If Schumacher could get away with THAT challenge in the semi in '82, shilton would have got away with clobbering Him.

[@javiercortes5232]

Always a dishonest English appears

[@markygee194]

Hughes’ comments at the end could be used perfectly to sum up Englands performance against Spain.

[@gerardbyrne5563]

Im Irish and Mexico 86 was the first tournament I was old enough to watch but England are the same 30 years on they are to cautious

[@martinodoni8943]

Yeah, what we need is the raw, unfeterred attacking daring of an Ireland national team e.g. TWO goals in five games at Italia 90.

[@JimmyTimmy-wh8dz]

Maradona was like many of us conflicted. The first goal he knows..he knows..so he scores the second one to say look what i can do!

[@zumizm1]

Also you could say the stuffing was knocked out of them that's why he scored the second wasn't better than Saudi Arabia's goal vs the Belgians

[@hussainaftab3515]

RIP Diego Armando Maradona (greatest player ever to play the game of football) & RIP Terry Venables & Emlyn Hughes

[@Anticommunism99]

Not even in top 5

[@NFTinvestments74]

@@Anticommunism99 Don't talk nonsense. No other player has single-handedly won his country a World Cup. The best ever and it's not even close.

[@Anticommunism99]

@@NFTinvestments74 you right single handed like in handball lol

[@NFTinvestments74]

@@Anticommunism99 Lol. What he done at Napoli will never be matched either. They say 1 man doesn't make a team, Maradona was the exception to the rule.

[@NFTinvestments74]

@jamesirvine9493 who?

[@eire3215]

Was that the Aztec stadium?? 100 thousand plus capacity...you wont get atmosphere like that anymore

[@jk5335]

Yep I believe it was Aztecs. I actually watched a match there in 2012?? between club America and Pumas, local derby. It is huge.

[@jorged06]

"Azteca"

[@Revelian1982]

Who would've thought Des Lynam would outlive Bobby Robson, Emlyn Hughes, Terry Venables and Diego Maradona?

[@douglasanderson8636]

Seemed like a goal to us in Scotland..

[@dlamiss]

Was very similar to Hungarys goal this evening

[@anthonyr587]

And now you got done by an Argentine ref against Hungary

[@panscrank]

You wouldn't know what a goal looks like

[@lervish1966]

Weirdo

[@Jackie-ji2sj]

Not surprising. Any goal scored by any team seems like a goal to Scotland as they rarely score any.

[@Matt-ou7tu]

I feel like Des Lynam looked the same age for about 20/30 years.

[@gavinblack450]

Wasn’t he offside as well??

[@adamweishaupt2846]

No he's onside. The ball was played by an England player.

[@THEMathHacker-121]

This game also contained the best defending ever, a goal line clearance by Argentina just as Lineker was about to tap in. No one talks about it but the guy breaks his back to get to it. Unreal. Robson blames Lineker but it was just too good. 5:34

[@valuetraveler2026]

6:19 knocked out by the first really good team in the competition - pretty much every tournament since for England

[@THEMathHacker-121]

In 88 they lost all 3 group games.

[@dude9038]

England did well in Euro 96, had a great team that actually gelled together well, perfect striking partnership between Shearer and Sheringham, with Anderton supporting them and working tirelessly on the right, G Neville the motor behind him, Ince the pillar in midfield supporting Gazza the wizard electrifying defences cutting through them, good solid defense with one of the best gk's in the world, England were unlucky not to beat Germany in the semis, and Germany went on to win the tournament so no shame in that.

[@mikipope5140]

Trust me, will be the same against Spain on Sunday!

[@PrivateBenjamin-vw8xy]

England have had two Euro finals, beat Germany in the last tournament and Holland in this one. So, not really.

[@TheLadoma]

@@PrivateBenjamin-vw8xy got a lucky penalty against Holland

[@simoncaton6181]

which england defender lumps the ball back over his shoulder into the danger area?

[@andrewjoyce9038]

I know what a bellend

[@andrewjoyce9038]

It was steve hodge

[@jiminycrint]

That’s not John Toshack. That’s Emlyn Hughes!

[@HarryHill-vk7iv]

Venables yelling Ballon Dor after Maradona’s second goal went viral afterwards.

[@user-li3fr8jl3b]

Haha

[@haroun1329]

Non-Europeans were not eligible for ballon d’or till 1995

[@josssmith]

The days of not having to suffer women in football.. blissful.

[@cannonfodder6654]

Yes I agree

[@Ruda-n4h]

@@cannonfodder6654Totally.

[@TonySayers]

yup

[@duncanevans5197]

and all white..... no box ticking!

[@SimonFrack]

Have a day off.

[@saulsolomon4396]

Cement legs Shilton was slow and past it in 86 yet he was still a statue in goal in 90.

[@philiptarry702]

Saved the game against Cameroon with three outstanding saves.

[@alfiejackalfiejack5040]

Peter Reid just giving up the chase. Our local opened early that day a sunday i think. The place was a bomb site after the game.

[@TH-b1stard]

People forget how vitriolic Emlyn Hughes was towards Bobby Robson in the press. El Tel was spot on about Shilton being slow off the line. In the end, the handball goal wasn't the only difference because Argentina hit the post later on through Carlos Tapia. Fenwick's international career died after this tournament.

[@Ruda-n4h]

I think Hughes was right - Robson was a poor England manager overall and Fenwick was way out of his depth in Mexico.

[@bernardwadding]

Bit of tension between Des and Terry?

[@Paleodimos]

I don’t know if Maradona was the best player of all time, but he’s definitely in the top 1….

[@MFV86]

Ha Terry Venables some years later would recall Beardsley and even wanted to call Waddle for his first game England against Denmark in 1994 but was injured

[@FedericoDLP]

the thing is, today would VAR find a hand ball AND offside too?

[@tuckwatsellers]

An excellent first goal.

[@stevemcelmy9354]

Can we just acknowledge how Maradona walked past 5 statuesque England players, before punching the ball into the net.

[@Muesli711]

Interesting that the panel highlight Maradona's bravery, irrespective of the cheating, for the first goal - it's one aspect of the goal that had never occurred to me.

[@jonathanmowat8576]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍💯

[@brettriverboat9920]

Steve Hodge with the absolute ridiculous back pass to Shiton

[@davidguiney1746]

His hand was in a totally natural position for someone picking his ear

[@Sandoz-tq7qj]

John Barnes 👍

[@aspursy7826]

And the pain continues.....

[@CraigRees-j2d]

Shilton got about 2 inches off the ground

[@darren2514fv]

The night before the McGuigan fight

[@GordonCaledonia]

McGuigan fought Maradona? Jesus. Who won?

[@CamperVanPersie]

I remember the football was shown at Sunday tea time,and also watching the Barry McGuigan-Steve Cruz fight,but totally forgot it was on a Monday night.

[@GordonCaledonia]

@@CamperVanPersie Yeah, it was a 12PM kick-off in Mexico, so 6PM kick-off in Britain. Which brings up the next World Cup in USA-Mexico-Canada. I wonder what kind of kick-off times we will see? The dates of matches are set, but not the kick-off times... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_FIFA_World_Cup#Group_A Caffeine sales will go through the roof, Persie! Invest NOW!

[@CamperVanPersie]

@@GordonCaledonia Strangely enough,due to the time differences,I have fond memories of both 1986 & 1994,as I believe World Cup football should be played in blazing hot sunshine...and while we are at it,bring back a proper daylight afternoon Final.

[@darren2514fv]

The end had a trailer for the Jack Dempsey film and live coverage of the fight

[@CSI5672]

38 years later and it's the same old problems with England...

[@therealovidox]

WHO was the English player that played that lobbed miss pass to Maradona ?

[@jsquire5pa]

Hodge

[@therealovidox]

@@jsquire5pa so technically assist of the century

[@jackandbuddy2997]

Emlyn...terry...bobby and diego all gone......RIP 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 D10S

[@NealSinclair]

When did this happen ? Never heard an Englishman mention it.....

[@fouaduitgestel]

Remember the titans Tunisian referee Allah ye rahmoe inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raj3jioen 💖🕊🤲🏽 Argentina played with heart and soul. Once we were warriors🇦🇷🇹🇳

[@JimmyTimmy-wh8dz]

Bobby robson was great..said it how he saw it. Argentina were the strongest team in the competition and maradona was at his peak.

[@kevinb9830]

Argentina without Maradona were pretty average.

[@carls-95]

"England played too negative and didn't start playing until they were behind"... Where have I heard that one before 😭

[@JimmyTimmy-wh8dz]

I love how measured people were in 1986. Maradona goal the second one is a great goal sure but calm down.

[@kailashpatel1706]

RIP Treat Williams (The Dempsey Film at end)

[@ComedyDanks]

lol they seem so chilled about it

[@mrporsche4236]

Maradona cheated once or twice. Everybody else cheats on maradona by breaking his legs with every tackle. You do realize thats cheating. No one talks about that. Maradona would score 5 goals a game every game if the opposition didnt cheat. They are the discusting cheaters how dare they

[@MrBimirud]

Funniest thing was the totally opposite Argentina coverage . The Argentina host said (of England and the 'hand of God') "is it wrong to steal from a thief?"

[@Ruda-n4h]

That's not an excuse.

[@TheDaverobinson]

No they dont. He’s dead.

[@112sje]

If anyone wants to get rid of VAR, remember Maradona's first goal !

[@elspencer6334]

Competent on-field officials would have spotted the handball.

[@archileo200]

They don’t like it up em

[@HarveyTwoFaceDent]

If anyone wants to get rid of VAR, remember Dennis Wise’s goal versus Turkey!

[@Ruda-n4h]

@@elspencer6334 I have to agree with Venables, when it first happened I thought he had headed it in.

[@danielcalero3929]

the same for England's goal in the '66 final

[@seanoneill7710]

England were outclassed. Meanwhile, who forgot about the shot that hit the post? 🙋‍♂

[@mikecondy6010]

Maradona, a true voley ball legend!

[@alanlittle3941]

Its Emlyn Hughes not John Toshack

[@FaisalB-no8gc]

What I was suprised , Ref could of reviewed it , Today their would,

[@richbaillie1]

that's not John Toshack

[@fargodavilleitnotd6729]

Englands back line was woeful, I remember this game I was thirteen at the time, I didnt think they was that bad when I first watched it.

[@pearcegreatesteverleftback03]

No excuses of too many matches yet they played more games with smaller squads in those days 🤣🤣

[@annandune]

Argentina were the better team and that second goal was a cracker, but one has to wonder whether he would have found it so easy to score that second if the England team weren't still reeling and stunned from the first. For that reason, I always felt the similar goal he scored against Belgium was more worthy of merit. The second Lineker chance also had a whiff of a foul about it. Perhaps it wasn't and I'm just viewing it all with rose-tinted spectacles. England certainly didn't do much until Barnes came on and, on balance, you'd have to give it to Argentina. But hell, that Hand of God still stings, and it feels wrong they made it to another final four years later when that Argentina team of 1990 was so poor.

[@javiercortes5232]

I watched that game from my skybox at the Azteca Stadium, located in the corner of that goal: 1. Argentina played better the whole game; 2. Shilton allowed a player 28 centimeters shorter to beat him (he should have put his hands in); 3. I still enjoy the sond goal in my memory, when Diego flew into the box and left the rustic English players with childish faces, I thought: this SOB is going to score the goal. On the other hand: Isn't it suspicious that at every international tournament (WC or Euro) the English team is always "magically" placed in the easiest group and with the easiest bracket? And always, to the delight of the world's fans, they are eliminated by the first serious team they face. Greetings from Mexico

[@panscrank]

Do one, spick

[@AC_Milan1899]

Good to see them criticising Shilton for his feeble leap.

[@BazGibb45]

John Toshack? That's Emlyn Hughes.

[@LethalMartialArtist]

Wow didn’t realise players did 360 roulette skills back then I.e maradonna

[@kwikbit]

Can't believe people are STILL going on about this....if Lineker had handled the ball and scored, do you think he'd have done anything different ? No . Of course he wouldn't. All the pundits said that they thought Maradona had headed the ball at the time. It's only with the frame by frame slow-mo that anybody really questioned it. It's not as if England had a goal in a world-cup FINAL given to them, when it clearly wasn't.... 🤷‍♂

[@wonderfullife3108]

"England could have done more", nothing really changes with England in major tournaments, which is why im always surprised when we get made favourites or get over optimistic.

[@clem1300]

I was once more inclined to think that Shilton was not to blame because the scorer cheated. You needed to cut him a lot of slack. But as Venables says it was his ball the whole time. That said Hodge's clearance must be the worst in football history...