Pally: *Surrounded by the enemy team right at their wall*. Also Pally: "This seems like a great time to leave the safety of the giant robot."
@nicolasvillasecaali76624 ай бұрын
i literally screamed "DON'T!" when he said that
@Flummer024 ай бұрын
For some reason yelling NOOOO didn’t stop him
@rasmustapper99944 ай бұрын
It was torture to watch XD like had had nice stacks, why play risky at that point !? AND i think he kinda misses the point in Q Build and lvl 1, its not about the dmg you get while doing quest, its the reward, plus the % dmg vs 2 AND lvl 20 upgrade, just the extra bit of burst you get to allready burst heavy keal that makes the lvl 1 quest good ! Like yes, i know the value is based on the situation and team comp, but it really has its place ! I have had some really good top dmg games w full Q build
@rasmustapper99944 ай бұрын
AND the placement att 12.30 XD like you gotta play SUPER safe untill 20 stacks, he was just standing in the open, full knowing stich had hook and the eating ultimate, even backed by valla, oh well, was a fun vid anyway
@rasmustapper99944 ай бұрын
AND AND the 200 + extra dmg is kinda a bad way of thinking, its more like + 600 extra dmg w the two time Q and % dmg
@jazsabar23214 ай бұрын
We will not rest until Pally completes Convection's quest.
@jdbolick4 ай бұрын
Never ever get in the robot if you have a quest that resets on death. The enemy team will always dive the robot occupants as soon as it expires.
@CliffSturgeon4 ай бұрын
Also you can't stack while in it.
@Teleios15014 ай бұрын
he shouldnt have been in there in the first place. hows he gonna complete his quest if he cant flamestrike
@GregArnott4 ай бұрын
This build was worth it for Pally's laughter & merriment from the match!
@bryanhalsey68434 ай бұрын
"Let's count up by 5 till we don't."
@mnunez16184 ай бұрын
LOL. Why... why... why, did you get out of the giant Mech? Followed by that rage. Pally, you make me laugh. Love your channel :D
@dismissedend42764 ай бұрын
yeah, that was an incredibly rookie mistake. He should've just walked back to the towers and got out. Part of me feels like it was done on purpose
@deafdanny62994 ай бұрын
@@dismissedend4276 How dorky are you? You think pally is a child and petty enough too die in his game to try and prove a point, when his words about the build were plenty to explain why it is bad?
@LodvarDude4 ай бұрын
@@deafdanny6299 Yes. I AM that dorky. I suspect we all are.
@MrMonkeybr4 ай бұрын
11:42 Minion: Get down Mr. President!
@MH-hu5pi4 ай бұрын
Pally: constantly ridicule conviction. Also pally: fails to finish the quest. Sure pally sure
@ChaosWolf34 ай бұрын
Thing is, it’s just not a good talent. It only works well against lower health heroes who can’t sustain against that extra 200 damage, and even then it’s really only good early game if you can complete the quest in the first 3-5 minutes. In that case, the damage is actually really high and matters. Because it doesn’t scale, it doesn’t matter as much in the late game. It does get the benefit of applying twice with the flamestrike that goes off twice, but that only matters if both blasts hit. It has great potential, but as you play against higher tier players, convection gets less value as players know better how to dodge it and know to focus you down.
@nicolasvillasecaali76624 ай бұрын
"Blind as a bat" have a CD reduction when landing the final swing on heroes, that's how he got it so soon, also, there is a %health talent for that specific hit of the Q, so Malganis can use it as a tell to know when he is hitting the enemies successfully so you spend less time hitting air not knowing.
@theheadone4 ай бұрын
Thank you for more consistently showing the stats screen at the end
@kethos0174 ай бұрын
I will never be able to unsee this thumb nail.
@oasisnova4 ай бұрын
@MFPallytime your one of my heros because you never gave up on hots
@markburgess42414 ай бұрын
You have to complete it Pally - that 200 damage is insane! :D
@jokester39694 ай бұрын
The thing with convection is that you have to play very safe and prioritize stacks over other gameplay elements until you finish the quest. You can't play the way you normally would, even if that means doing less with the objectives. I think the people cry out for another try at this one.
@TheOneWhoReportsForDuty4 ай бұрын
Convection maybe the feastless or faminest Level 1 in the game but you can’t deny when something is “Effective.”
@Omar_listenin4 ай бұрын
you can't move on from KT until you finish the quest
@nuadai4 ай бұрын
It's called the "Infinite Stacks" Convection build variant. :D And Pally played it to perfection really... GG WP
@michaelswain8683 ай бұрын
In reviewing the critics of pally, the convection enjoyers as it were, the real benefit to flame strike is minion wave clear and objectives like braxis. This upside is rarely felt as you need to focus on flamestrike stacking rather than minion waves. This damage quickly peters out in effectiveness post level 10 you should be fine hitting waves. Although it can be nice on maps like braxis and hanamura where you fight over fixed point objectives. The significant downsides of losing stacks for deaths is absolutle lunacy making the talent a significant risk for okayish returns. Mana addict in contrast stacks your mana and also gives a fatty shields shoring up KT's two prime weaknesses his mana consumption and the fact he is a squishy backliner with no mobility ability. If the choice isn't clear or why pally didn't do this in the first video.... Its cos Pally the magnificent beast that he is rubbed about 3 brain cells together looking at the choice and chose correctly. Because it isn't a choice convection is shit.
@quasar28344 ай бұрын
OMG 200 extra damage that's so good! I especially love how it doesn't scale with your level, such a great talent!
@matg38704 ай бұрын
New favorite thing: Make pally do shit he doesn't like and hear him complain and be sarcastic about it!😂
@badluckprophet91034 ай бұрын
Oh man. Have you seen the Dbag Nova video from years ago? He played the super lame but most popular Nova build at the time and EVERY cast of Triple Tap is accompanied by Pally yelling "IT'S THE BEST ULT IN THE GAME!!" Hilarious stuff.
@SweetOdinsRavens4 ай бұрын
That's a spicy K T
@Erwin_Rudolf4 ай бұрын
I like to think that Pally was laughing just as hard making this video's title card as he did in the game.
@Nicholastrainbecka4 ай бұрын
We will not rest until Pally completes Convection's quest
@TheGameInQuestion4 ай бұрын
Always a blast to see Chef Pally in his kitchen cooking up a storm, even when the enemies come out al dente.
@Sombriage4 ай бұрын
Playing a pvp build that requires stacks without dying yet repeatedly over extending, pveing, and jumping into the robot. Classic Pallytime.
@tc056984 ай бұрын
Need another! Gotta get that quest complete!
@kingcaesar168811 күн бұрын
Top tier commentary as usual.
@henrihell4 ай бұрын
To be fair, 200 more AOE damage early game is pretty big, but it drops off towards the late game. If you magically finish the quest at lvl1 it's a massive 58% increase, but even at lvl 10 it's only dropped to just below 40% extra damage. At lvl 30 it's only 17% though, so it's very much a talent you'd take for when the enemy team is likely to be clumped up a lot and you expect/need to win fast. For example vs. a Vikings comp it could be good, because you stack on the 4 man deathball and you'd wanna win before the Vikings manage to soak you out of the game anyway, so it's gonna be a noticeable damage increase.
@CreepingTerror4 ай бұрын
It also allowed you to cast 200 more shade at convection!
@Aaron537_UNIQUESTRING4 ай бұрын
I gotta say, that's the best thumbnail I've seen in awhile 🤌🤌
@rovsea-37614 ай бұрын
At the end there at level 20 your Flamestrike is doing about 800 damage, 200 extra damage on top is a 25% increase. Honestly, that's not too bad ;)
@ChaosWolf34 ай бұрын
To give credit where credit is due, 200 extra damage can matter when the flamestrike goes off twice and both hit, making it 400 damage and if you hit multiple heroes that can be an extra 800-1200+ damage on top of the % damage and base damage. It can be good. But against more skilled players, it just doesn’t make much difference compared to the other options. At my tier of play (plat to diamond) this talent isn’t used often and is something I’m happy to see a KT take if I’m against them. It gives my team an advantage as long as we can pressure him and keeps KT playing passively until he gets it.
@danhealy794 ай бұрын
I love it when KTs pick Convection. It btings me great joy when they die with only one more stack remaining on quest completion.
@antparts4 ай бұрын
My stitches and valla hurt so bad.
@StoicForce4 ай бұрын
It should work like The Butcher's quest; you don't lose stacks after you complete the quest, and you get to continue stacking beyond 20.
@EmilioMejia4 ай бұрын
If you were allowed to stack after 20, it would be broken. I'd rather it was like butchers in that you never lost your full stack on death, just a part of it.
@dukelornek4 ай бұрын
so funny loved it
@ShadowNinjaDestiny4 ай бұрын
Great video. Enjoying the KT guides.
@user-et3xn2jm1u4 ай бұрын
Pally is having way too much fun with this one LOL
@CiaphasKirby4 ай бұрын
I'm 5 minutes in to this video and have heart palpitations, how do people play with this fucking talent.
@cavendishbandana87064 ай бұрын
6:42 lol
@lpsoccerfan4 ай бұрын
Convection oven needs to be done for this video to count!
@jokkepokke954 ай бұрын
not at all, this shows off the talent perfectly well 👍
@richardporter98454 ай бұрын
So glad. It's so OP if ya can get the quest done
@maurtendo4 ай бұрын
Blind as a Bat reduces cooldown when you hit with the third strike. So if everyone just stands on you while you hit them while blind, you can almost have it off of cooldown before it ends...
@cherubimman51333 ай бұрын
Pally please... you know we wont rest until you finished a game with completed convecntion quest !!! 😂😅😊😊
@bboysmalltown6664 ай бұрын
Your laugh is infectious
@mtvjacknife8163 ай бұрын
Please redo this build I would love to see you complete it!
@virferrum4 ай бұрын
One of the issues with this is that you kept talking up MA, but it really wouldn't have done anything this match either. It wouldn't have saved you when you died, nor were you oom much either
@dasauto442 ай бұрын
Best HoTs cjannel ever
@sealboy12112 ай бұрын
That’s a lot of damage.
@Moleje13374 ай бұрын
I took a much needed break from a very disheartening politcal video on the excessive loss of life durring the pandemic and the Australian Government copability and lack of member of parliment recognition on the matter. Thank goodness for Pally, I needed a brief distraction.
@Erwin_Rudolf4 ай бұрын
🤣 Some of these comments are so salty. Are You Not Entertained? Are You Not Entertained? Is This Not Why You Are Here? Lol, I had a good time watching this.
@LacticAcid6724 ай бұрын
Would like to see a video about the big (by 2024 standards) new patch with a fair bit of balance changes! It's like what, the third patch so far this year?
@eylo71134 ай бұрын
completing the quest early = power spike = ez win. however, if you are bad at KT pick any of the other talents
@thomashull77764 ай бұрын
On the short list for "Pally's Opus".
@nathanielcollier4 ай бұрын
I was expecting you to augment after the malganis slept several enemies, could be a decent combo
@crosslayer1023894 ай бұрын
I demand a do over, you promised haha
@TruePirateKing123 ай бұрын
Just a PSA for the rest of chat. Convection may have good damage but at the cost of backing after a full combo. Also the pain of having to play scared the entire match isn’t worth it.
@thythunder90254 ай бұрын
after that mech play I think we need a re-do on this one 😄
@xenonnboy4 ай бұрын
Pain ™️
@ZendikarMage427504 ай бұрын
I meam, people do take the talent, so showing the build does fit the concept of showing all the builds even if it clearly is bad, heh heh
@justsomeguy4714 ай бұрын
love you pally
@snyderm4n19 күн бұрын
It was almost as if he was waiting until he got some stacks built up and then tried to die... "oh no, I died... see that's why I don't like this talent"
@joshguyer45934 ай бұрын
Convection oven has one great aspect, Phycological. You can bait the other team to over extend with it. "he is hi stacks, Need to kill him before he gets it!!!" bait 3 of them to kill you and get three kills. get three kills for one death and your stacks that don't really matter... YES!
@theskorpian4 ай бұрын
If the enemy team members are stupid enough to vastly overextend to try and kill a KT farming a shitty ability like convection, you were going to wipe the floor with that team regardless.
@Tagaloc4 ай бұрын
"I guess you'll just have to imagine what my flamestrike looks like with 200 more damage" oh no no no, it does not work like that Pally, you need to complete the quest :)
@jari9484 ай бұрын
in the end your flamestrike did 792 dmg to valla. 200 wouldve been a 25% increase. thats not bad. its not good either, especiialy compared to mana addict. but its not nothing
@LacticAcid6724 ай бұрын
Yeah - I pulled up a talent calculator to do the math after the video too. It's not the best talent for sure - but 25% extra damage on a spell that can easily hit 3+ members of the enemy team (twice even!) is nothing to sneeze at. You just have to play cautious when you pick it until quest completion. Which ... someone ... did not.
@jari9484 ай бұрын
@@LacticAcid672 still the scaling is low. 20 heroes is to many for losing them upon death. Either make the cap 400 dmg or increase the dmg to 10 per hit Or just remove the lost upon death
@ToraxReborn4 ай бұрын
IF you get itbthough.. its worth it with that build.. if you can get 2 ppl wifh the completion.. u can get 1500 flamestrikes..
@fallenphoenixiv4 ай бұрын
As a level 75ish KT, I will stand by my opinion of convention being a trap talent for KT
@bralius4 ай бұрын
Isn't it 200-2000 bonus dmg depending on how many are caught in the 2 strikes?
@alexanderfuentes85584 ай бұрын
I'm surprised that there are people who still upload content for Heroes of the Storm because I thought the game was dead so they wouldn't put more content in it (I'm not saying it's bad or that I'm making fun of it or anything like that) because the heroes are my favorite game for years and I hope some company takes it so it can go back to how it was before
@Drako2k04 ай бұрын
To be fair, you did kind of offer yourself on a silver platter to that stitches 😜😂
@slowbro-4 ай бұрын
I love pally
@spahghettiboi41504 ай бұрын
Bro did not cook with convection that is for sure, but hey a w is w
@dismissedend42764 ай бұрын
nah, don't count till you finish the stacks
@sfire21xm4 ай бұрын
Pally really making a whole video just to rag on convection.
@Mdlfh4 ай бұрын
Convection buld deepdive (Convection is not mandatory).
@ExaDat4 ай бұрын
conviction is bad, but I agree that a flamestrike build needs conviction
@Sasu5564 ай бұрын
Convection could use a rework... maybe make it multiple stage reward talent, where at 5 stacks, Q gives mana back on enemies hit, at 10 stacks, you no longer lose them after death, at 15 reduce mana cost of Q and at 20 get extra dmg spike on top of the baseline scaling. Or something like that. Alternatively only losing half of it on death like greymane could be cool, or make it a baseline talent that stacks infinitely and give 5 damage per stack then extra 50 damage per each 5 stacks. Overally though, I do quite agree that mocking a talent you're "showcasing", that you didn't even get to properly showcase due to not completing the quest wasn't fun. Especially against this team, where you had plenty of big low mobility targets to hit while having a relative safety on your team. It did showcase that losing the stacks is definitely quite punishing though and generally in most games you are definitely better off picking mana addict. Still, as KT main for some time now, going for Q build and not picking Convection somehow feels just weird. Especially since if you dont pick it, theres little reason to go Fury of the Sunwell at 16 instead of Ignite, since the poke from Ignite is almost like cheating.
@micair4 ай бұрын
Yeah, you need to do redo this one and do it right.
@demibarton42714 ай бұрын
unending hatred adds how much damage for illidan?
@carlosmera86044 ай бұрын
Convection is not as good as mana? Totally agree, yet...that moment when you lose all the stacks for getting out of the meka just in from of the towers...kinda triggers, not gonna lie 😂
@angussharington23744 ай бұрын
A promise is a promise, so keep going!
@chicagohobbyhero4 ай бұрын
🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂 Only 5 because it never gets to 6
@benjaminhenderson50254 ай бұрын
Not good enough Pally! We need another video 😉
@roaba35814 ай бұрын
400 dmg, if you hit both :) Wombo heaven.
@revoslawter3628Ай бұрын
Just re downloaded the game after a really really long time. Holy shit I had a lot of skins 😭 Is this game still any good seems fun still.
@megaheadbomb14294 ай бұрын
Meatball sub?!
@Zolgronin4 ай бұрын
Never been so early
@baconboss3594 ай бұрын
same
@UrsusTheDruid4 ай бұрын
Likewise
@dismissedend42764 ай бұрын
do it again
@EmilioMejia4 ай бұрын
I have never criticized the way you play Pally, but when you go this build, when you get to 15 stacks, you must become a paranoid sniper until you get to 20. Twice in that game you had over 15 stacks and continued to play with reckless abandon. I would have been upset with you as a teammate.
@Zeitgast4 ай бұрын
🎉🎉
@De4dPoo14 ай бұрын
Do Sylvanas!!!
@LodvarDude4 ай бұрын
Lewd.
@danjohannesen80304 ай бұрын
why not maiking videos with kuye
@ethanhorn60934 ай бұрын
A highly opinionated group is code for people who are wrong and have made that Pally's problem. The only good thing about Convection is it lets you know that the player doesn't know how to play Kael'thas.
@Creature80874 ай бұрын
Sorry to say Pally but you DID say in the first video you're going to make it deal "the most damage possible" then didn't take convection oven, which makes that statement false
@silk9494 ай бұрын
Again!😂 jk please dont😂😂
@DAh-xo8zm4 ай бұрын
Convection gets a lot more trash than it deserves. You had the perfect map and team comp to show it off but played very out of character. Oh well.
@EdgedShadow4 ай бұрын
I always report people for intentionally dying if they pick this.
@Greenvd4 ай бұрын
I watch Pally's HOTS videos since 2014 and I genuinely enjoy them. This is the first time ever I have disliked one of his video. Couldn't watch it till the end. Every third word making fun of Convection is too much . This felt so forced. The cherry on top was when he exited the mech under tower between 3 enemy heroes, so that he can die so that he can continue to make fun of this talent.
@markreine28334 ай бұрын
With that talent, you should not be in the obj 😬
@TheHorzabora4 ай бұрын
It may be a bad talent until it pings, and yeah, it only pings after quite a bit of work. But… mocking it that hard, while explaining how it’s mostly a winning talent in bronze… … just wasn’t fun to watch. Sorry
@NicholasGW4 ай бұрын
Agreed. Especially when you demonstrate those non-bronze skills by demeching and unaliving only 6 away from the goal, all while joking about losing 35 damage per cast (it was at 60.) I mean, it is a bad talent, objectively. But so too was this take.
@mnunez16184 ай бұрын
Hopefully, Blizzard sees this video and buffs Convection! Adding in 1% per stack, (so, 20% at 20 stacks) and quest the completion could give your empowered strikes deal 40% more damage.