Miami Heat: Where does Tyler Herro stand, on Heat and in NBA? | Five on the Floor

[@Thundercats125]

I think Hero can take his game to the next level. He has a great work ethic.

[@Mac2Mon]

Great podcast… great to finally get really facts & not just “narratives” when discussing Herro. Looking forward to the facts about Rozier & Bam and not just “narratives” about them on future podcasts 👍

[@conch77]

With no Jimmy in the playoffs, Tyler was exposed for all to see. He is not a number 1,2 or 3. He is too inconsistent to be relied on. He is clearly a 6th man. Pat calling him fragile was the nail in the coffin. He will be gone by the trading deadline and everyone, including him, knows it.

[@JasonKart-l7n]

hee had no jimmy rozier, Caleb and high smith were awful and Duncan was hurt. context matters

[@dmc1118]

He's not even a number 5 for the team Miami chasing, the Brad Stevens built Celtics, Riley needs to "keep his mouth shut" and get a whale

[@heaternotahater]

The question is how many playoff teams would Tyler start for. His value starting for the Bulls is different than starting for say the bucks or okc, twolves.

[@emoneyizhereson]

Herro is a better player than Beverly, who was a starter for the bucks. His lack of defense is the biggest thing holding him back, but he’d be a great starting role player for teams that need dynamic scorers

[@MotoM1234]

@@emoneyizheresonbut he isn’t a dynamic scorer unless the defense is focused on someone else.

[@emoneyizhereson]

@@MotoM1234 That's why he's a role player, not a star.

[@JayK07]

Thanks!

[@miafire6628]

It's not only about where he could start its about which one of those teams would want his salary and what would they give up for him.

[@TheLexiconMind]

Leave it to the younger generations "the soft lol" to be confused about what Pat meant by "fragile." He absolutely did not mean Tyler is "soft." In fact altogether Pat said exactly the opposite. Tyler is a hard worker and fierce competitor, which makes him hard!! What he was talking about was Tyler's body has been fragile. The problem is Tyler has that rare body type "ectomorph" that is shredded naturally, but difficult to grow and keep muscle on. Even though every year he does ... it falls right back off. A classic condition of the ectomorph. This is a quintessential problem with his body type. Because Tyler is small, He has been fragile. But Tyler is not known to be soft, He is known to be hard. That is why he still plays for the Miami Heat.

[@hamsterbrigade]

Heat put that clip out there to try and generate a market for him.

[@solracblonde9480]

I think Rileys presser was great but the fragile comment was something he wishes he could take back unless he has no intention of trading him.

[@dennislopez1272]

Guys, seriously? Traditional stats are what you are using? Glad you didn't reference his +/- which is second worst on the team. Tyler's advanced stats are pretty embarrassing. Off/def rating are awful (108/114) and worse on the team. His value over a replacement is 0.1, which is laughably bad. His win share per 48 (since he didn’t play a full year) was not good, a .068. League average is .100. I could keep going but you get the drift. A majority of the guys you said wouldn't start over Tyler on other teams, I would trade for and be better off.

[@donjohnson3195]

I've been saying this for Years... Tyler is a good/limited player... Key Word = Limited.... He's been Over Hyped since the Summer League.... He's not Close to Maxey and other Big Time younger players. His stats are deceiving, because he's played with 2 none score first players... Ps You're still taking Shots at Woj, after being SO WRONG, while Woj was RIGHT, give it up😂

[@boss_i_been117]

Wouldn't Terry Rozier be the #3 guy now? Moving Tyler to #4. Making him the higher value trade piece over Tyler.

[@Mr.Nyashty]

True I’m kinda 50/50 on Terry I think they both should get moved even though I like Terry but this team just needs a reboot

[@MotoM1234]

lol nobody wants Rozier.

[@jonathanchan1365]

tbh, id rather trade jimmy and go for the future cause. miami is like the only team i see going for okc. it will be superteam vs superteam its going to be insane

[@sambell8655]

Every summer we talk about Herro putting on muscle, and 2 months into the season he's skinny as ever. He always works hard on his game, but Heat need a more durable 2 way guard.

[@solracblonde9480]

I think Riley Knows he can't trade Herro right now becaise his trade value is low and becsis they probably genuinely believe there is still some room for growth. So why not take a little public jab at Herro, maybe he'll take it well and improve.

[@MotoM1234]

Duncan changes the game with little usage when he is on.

[@jonasb.8810]

I'm curious to know if anyone here truly believes Tyler will grow his game to another level or has he reached his potential this year. I believe this is who he is and we can't expect more. As UD said, he's a 6 man

[@donjohnson3195]

The problem is, 6th men, don't make $30 million a year... Big Problem!!

[@Craftmaster3]

He will keep getting better the next few years but I don't see leaps, just incremental improvement

[@JulberPajares4]

I dont beleive no one reaches their limit at 24

[@dmc1118]

Do Riley and the Heat really love Tyler this much? Or does nobody wants him for the $30 million Riley gave him? 😂😂

[@Mr.Nyashty]

What I’m saying the smoking dope in the front office to give a guy like that for a rookie bubble szn

[@wisdomwarriors912]

The point is Tyler herro won’t be starting on any contending team lol he’s a role player 6th man that shouldn’t close games he’s a major defensive liability

[@JohnBurgundy]

Tyler gotta go!

[@FernandoLopez-ei3hc]

I know why those teams don’t think Tyler is a good player 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@reyt3027]

Superrrrr superrrrrrrrr

[@dmen0563]

The problem is A. Fit B. He doesn't want to come off the bench

[@robinshaul4069]

Fit, championship,jimmy 😮 Bam,Kevin Durant.Bang.You heard it first Miami princess

[@solracblonde9480]

That fragile comment is because he knows he's stuck with Herro.

[@belowaveragegamer8612]

Good show. I feel like Herro is out but it's not obvious what happens next unless it is for a star.

[@josematos6579]

Right Now ? In the Limbo or NBA purgatory 😂

[@Mr.Nyashty]

Ughhh Limbo

[@sandraolson7974]

Tyler seemed to me a bit of a stat padder towards the end of the games ,he was always in the fourth quarters ,just my opinion especially at the end of the year ,sorry

[@Wennifer19]

I predicted Minnesota to win the finals this year

[@robinshaul4069]

Yes❤

[@donjohnson3195]

Tyler wouldn't start over Suggs... He's a defensive stopper, who plays off the ball.... Tyler wouldn't start for most teams... It's NO CHANCE he starts in OKC 😂 c'mon smh😂 You guys are still over Hyping Tyler.... Give it up....

[@Mr.Nyashty]

Yeah man they should talk about potential targets . Just admit it guys he’s not good . There’s plenty of other young players that fit better cmon guys .

[@heaternotahater]

Facts!

[@donjohnson3195]

@@Mr.Nyashty Absolutely bro.... We need another Grown Man, playing with Jimmy, Bam or whoever...

[@Mr.Nyashty]

@@donjohnson3195 yes my guy . I’ve been saying it for years now when Jimmy got here . Since he was in his earlier part of the tenure get a guy or two that can alleviate pressure defensively for the man . Some reason everyone believe Herro would be that guy without 0 evidence of that being true . He not no damn bucket or a reliable shooter ,he’s streaky and since I see him and Duncan departing we need better than that .

[@dalrajsingh5451]

tyler is fragile so don't see anything wrong that Pat called him out tyler needs to be traded this offseason don't care where

[@Taino727]

I HATE the argument from people that if u have Jimmy, Mitchell and Bam that they won't have a bench. The Celtics have been the best team ALL YEAR. and there roster is top heavy Great starting 5 NO bench Pritchard, Hauser, Horford and Kornet are scrubs. they have no bench they stagger there best players around when Holiday and Tatum are on the bench Brown and white are still on the floor. The knicks I'm watching there whole starting 5 play 40 minutes they don't even play a bench it's so overrated

[@miafire6628]

Preach...

[@jimmyjay689]

Lmao...Hauser and Pritchard are better than Herro😂

[@dmen0563]

Neither of those teams will win the finals

[@Taino727]

@@dmen0563 hopefully not but they made it further than us and both about to advance to the conference finals I hate em but both have really good futures ahead there Stars are young

[@Mr.Nyashty]

@@Taino727how that work for us our last 3 finals appearances ?