Michael E. Mann: The New Climate War

World-renowned climate scientist Michael E. Mann reveals how fossil fuel companies want you to think that it’s all about you, when it's really all about them.
In a wide-ranging interview related to his new book, The New Climate War, Penn climate scientist Michael Mann explains how Big Oil has muddied the waters of the climate debate. They want us to focus on individual solutions-driving less or eating less meat-which ends up diverting attention from the largest malefactors. Mann argues that to address climate change the right way, we need collective, not individual action, and we have to hold the world’s largest companies accountable.
Keywords: Hockey stick curve, Disinformation, clean energy, social movements, recycling, climate change, climate war, fossil fuel, climate debates, Big Oil.
Guest: Michael E. Mann is Distinguished Professor of Atmospheric Science at Penn State and director of the Earth System Science Center. A specialist in combining theoretical models and observational data to understand the Earth’s climate system, Mann has published over 200 scholarly publications and five books, including The New Climate War: The Fight to Take Back Our Planet (2021). He is an IPCC lead author and a National Academy of Sciences member.
Moderator: Makena Coffman is the Director for the University of Hawaiʻi at Mānoa Institute for Sustainability and Resilience. She is a Professor of Urban and Regional Planning and Research Fellow with the University of Hawaiʻi Economic Research Organization, and Chair of the City & County of Honolulu Climate Change Commission. Her research interests include climate change, energy policy and alternative transportation strategies.
Produced by the UH Manoa Better Tomorrow Speaker Series for the Hawai'i Book and Music Festival 2021
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Sponsored by: University of Hawai'i at Manoa, Oceanit, Kamehameha Publishing, HEI, Bess Press, Lili'uokalani Trust, Hawai'i Public Radio, Honolulu Civil Beat, iHeartMedia, BDK Hawaii

[@chadsiewert893]

Michael Mann mixed arrogance and stupidity for a better tomorrow.

[@DarkWizardPrince]

Here is a question for you Mr. Mann. In Canada where I live the Carbon tax has been in place for quite sometime now. Why has there been no change to our climate and what are they doing with that money to address as you say this serious issue?

[@jarrodstrobelight1782]

I'm sure Michael wants to help and spread his knowledge. I'm a state certified construction and electrical enthusiast and worker. Just with basic knowledge of engineering, economics and world consumable logistics. I hear Michael and other professional intellectuals say "we need to reduce and introduce policies" At no point do I see or hear any logistical solution. If they dare dive into the process of clean energy, it's also based on mining, first step transportation, refining, second step transportation, manufacturing, third step trans. Installing or activation. maintaining, servicing and deposal. Fossil fuels got us here and is linked to so many jobs and prosperity. Not including food distribution. Many people have said we can introduce clean energy to all these steps. It's not just cost viability.

[@jarrodstrobelight1782]

Sankey diagram. This shows all energy sources. You very seldom hear anyone talk about the energy diagram. Reduce energy and count down the six degrees how it related to your current income.

[@pool2587]

Fossil fuel is a lie

[@pool2587]

Ideas?

[@danielanders4773]

That's because the prick is only making money like Al Gore is from the hysteria. He has no invested interest in the logistics to implement any of his doomsday prophecies.

[@dontownsend3434]

Greening of the Earth Mitigates Surface Warming(Nov 23, 2020) www.nasa.gov/feature/greening-of-the-earth-mitigates-surface-warming Climate Racketeering kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZTPZpyuaNqqrq8

[@jarrodstrobelight1782]

We need to have a richer and more compelling conversation about chasing our own tails.

[@RalphEllis]

Mann is a real doom-monger charlatan. In reality…. US strong tornadoes have been DECREASING for 60 years (see NOAA data). Hurricanes and Typhoons have been STEADY for 45 years (see Dr Ryan Maue data). Heatwaves over 100 f have been DECREASING since the 1930s (see NOAA data). N Hemisphere snow extent has been INCREASING for 50 years. (see Rutgers snow-lab). Polar bear numbers have been increasing for 60 years. (see DR Sue Crockford data:) S Hemisphere sea-ice extent was INCREASING for 40 years, before a storm in 2017. (and extent is climbing back up again) (see NSIDC on climate4you) Ralph.

[@antonioreid534]

Oh… I guess there are no methane feedbacks in the Arctic anymore… thank god!

[@C_R_O_M________]

They're just backing away from that BS narrative. You are going to witness a lot more back-pedalling from their initial outlandish alarmist positions and as the new norm of having the governments in total control of socioeconomics (that's the huge carrot for these bastards) gets established. After a whole new bureaucracy gets established it's extremely difficult to uproot! This is going to be another socialist experiment for humanity and I fear for the future of younger generations.

[@JaseboMonkeyRex]

we are not going to adapt - climate change is a symptom of overshoot - a critical one absolutely , but just one of many boundries we are pushing through- renewable energy is the techno optimist promise to continue business as ususal - Tainter in his work talks about how no society has ever choosen to reduce complexity - we are going to collapse - and the way emissions will come down will be from economic armegedon from the combination of rising costs to our way of life- and as Mann would agree, climate change will present most forcefully as food and water insecurity first for millions, then hundreds of millions , then billions ....

[@jarrodstrobelight1782]

what If we all go vegan and use one light in the house at a time? 😂

[@danielanders4773]

But the world's crops are booming? You forget CO2 is plant food!!

[@denisdaly1708]

Agree, it's going to take radical change to our way of living

[@danielanders4773]

@@denisdaly1708 agree to what? The only people pushing climate change are rich global elites and stupid young neo Marxists who are falling over themselves to be the most woke idiots. Denis you travel much? Cos if you don't start, as you'll quickly find CC is a western world agenda. Hardly any country outside the Anglo-Saxon world is worrying about it.

[@grindupBaker]

Yep

[@richdiana3663]

We're at about 1.87C from the 1750 beginning of industrial civilization. And Mann is full of hopium which makes things worse.

[@C_R_O_M________]

What are you talking about? Not even the IPCC says that! We have not even passed the 1C warming "anomaly" in GATs in 150 years and coming out a very cold era and you somehow claim to know what GATs were 250 years back? Insane!

[@RalphEllis]

Mann is a real doom-monger charlatan. In reality…. US strong tornadoes have been DECREASING for 60 years (see NOAA data). Hurricanes and Typhoons have been STEADY for 45 years (see Dr Ryan Maue data). Heatwaves over 100 f have been DECREASING since the 1930s (see NOAA data). N Hemisphere snow extent has been INCREASING for 50 years. (see Rutgers snow-lab). Polar bear numbers have been increasing for 60 years. (see DR Sue Crockford data:) S Hemisphere sea-ice extent was INCREASING for 40 years, before a storm in 2017. (and extent is climbing back up again) (see NSIDC on climate4you) Ralph.

[@grindupBaker]

"We're at about 1.87C from the 1750 beginning of industrial civilization". Liar. At 2023 it's +1.28 degrees +/- 0.25 degrees uncertainty higher GMST than 1750. It's all available in the internet by scientists but of course the innumerable liars like you have zero interest in facts as best known.

[@grindupBaker]

@@C_R_O_M________ Well it's proxy. But it's 0.13 +/- 0.18 degrees 1750 to the 1850-1900 average not a huge fraction. It's called PAGHES2K (2K years multiu-proxy average).

[@ronaldgarrison5528]

This video is already two months old, but from March 16, today, I'm wondering how the war in Ukraine will influence the course of the climate situation.

[@bargdaffy1535]

It will not at all, except that Maybe the EU, UK and USA adopt real renewable energy priorities, but that is highly unlikely. The War will not effect Climate Chaos as far as making it worse. There are already enough GHG's in the Atmosphere and Oceans to warm the Earth for Centuries.

[@ronaldgarrison5528]

@Dr David BonnarIII I don't know how you can believe that unless you believe that the amount of fossil fuels burned has no effect. Actually, I still tend to think this war will not go on that long, for multiple reasons. Even so, it will affect a lot of thinking and planning regarding the use of natural gas particularly, and less directly other things. The prospect of freezing by dawn focuses the mind wonderfully.

[@AGMI9]

@@ronaldgarrison5528 I dont know why the other guy said It cant have any effect maybe he means as in whats happening in Ukraine specifically, but its for sure going to derail the world coming together and tackling climate change if thats what you meant by your original question, if climate scientists are even a quarter right we are fked

[@ronaldgarrison5528]

​@@AGMI9 David, the other commenter, can speak for himself, but I'm more concerned about your comment. Take that initial part as a compliment, but I still think your understanding is flawed as well. What you need to realize is that scientists generally consider their role as being to describe, not prescribe. So Michael Mann can give you a reasonable estimate of what will happen to the climate system if emissions continue with "business as usual." The trouble is that BAU is simply nonsense. I keep hearing about those BAU scenarios, where the rest of the fossil fuels are burned-at an increasing rate FFFS!-through 2100, and it continually grinds my gears. There is NO plausible scenario where that is going to happen. I can predict confidently that CO2 emissions will trend downward from here on, whatever is decided in climate negotiations in Paris or wherever. Gov't policy, and business decisions, can affect the details, but the train has really already left the station. We are going to renewables, and electrifying transportation, and changing numerous other things, because it economically makes sense. So yes, I think the climate scientists are mostly right, but no, we're not buggered. At least, not for that reason. Maybe Putin and Biden will push the Big Red Buttons, and we'll be buggered that way. But hey, at least we won't have increasing CO2 emissions.

[@northpole9311]

It's a fricken oil war Doctor it's all about oil deals to Europe now.. Doctor jee whizz I got a grade 8 education Doctor what grade did you make it to???just wait till the wheat don't get grown this year in Ukraine 40% over that part of the world Doctor....Doctor?

[@nitrofreak67]

If we are at 1.2, 1.5 is completely unavoidable. Once we stop or reduce the burning of coal, the dimming effect is gone, exposing the real temperature increases. If I'm wrong, please explain.

[@janklaas6885]

we are gonna go extinct

[@T1tusCr0w]

In less than 8 years we should hit 1.5 we will hit 2 in less than 2 decades. 1.5 is so far gone it’s a joke snd so is this fool if he is peddling it.

[@bargdaffy1535]

Shit if you start from the 1750 goalpost we are at at least 1.4C, they keep moving the goalposts.

[@janklaas6885]

@@bargdaffy1535 With the changed baseline were on 2.3°

[@pbshumanity8977]

You're right. Current measurements do not take into calculations the aerosol masking effect. So, with that, we are already at 1.5 to 2C,

[@kimchiwasabee]

Has it been made public by now,TO WHAT EXTENT human actions are responsible for what is said to come. And,btw, how the heck will we convince 4B people in India,Africa,Asia etc to not use cheap energy like coal?? Isn't the hockey stick just a computer scheme? Asking for E.T.

[@pool2587]

Thanks for the hockey stick🏒

[@C_R_O_M________]

You must be in some government agency to thank him for that fraudulent work! That was a reprehensible thing he did with the proxies from Dr. Idso.

[@jonc67uk]

Yeah. Optimism not overly helpful. I'd say you missed the whole laptev sea methane thing combined with the US's little orphan oil well problem. They should have acted earlier when they knew there was a problem rather than kicking the can down the road due to political inconvenience....

[@dondesper6552]

Mann is not telling the truth. We are already past 1.5 however he would lose his gravy train if he told what he already knows. That gravy train is runs on fossil fuel. Enjoy your ride.

[@sonofdamocles]

mmmmmm gravy

[@C_R_O_M________]

Nonsense!

[@dlcstudiowest1060]

yes indeed make peace plant a tree a act of faith like a prayer but i’ve seen the insects disappear in hana where i live in the once “rain forrest” that’s. now so dry it’s been 4 years knowing the truth we are going extinct soon too

[@northpole9311]

He is a political puppet and nothing more your ears tell you that....

[@danielanders4773]

There's plenty of other countries with booming rainforests mate.

[@pool2587]

I would like to help

[@denisdaly1708]

Great. Find me on twitter, lots of groups to take positive action.

[@C_R_O_M________]

@@denisdaly1708 throw some tomato soup at irreplaceable paintings and glue your genitals on the floor of some car dealership. That will certainly solve the riddle of human intelligence, for starters.

[@garyamstutz8258]

Most people cannot afford a new electric car. Imposing a carbon tax on those same people is not going to help them be able to afford a new electric car. The median income in the United States in 2022 is about $54,000 a year. That means half the people make more and half the people make LESS than $ 54,000 a year.

[@danielanders4773]

That made zero sense. Thanks for wasting my time reading it.

[@C_R_O_M________]

​@@danielanders4773 that made a lot more sense than your rude response that added no value whatsoever.

[@michah321]

@@danielanders4773 It's reality. People aren't going to live in worse poverty for this climate effort. It's not going to happen. It's not going to be voted for.

[@stephentrueman4843]

4:06 COP26 festival lol sounds about right, next one (the 27th one to "save" the planet) in egypt is coming up in a month; hope everyone has a lovely time.

[@anthonymorris5084]

"According to a new UN report, the global warming outlook is much worse than originally predicted. Which is pretty bad, when they originally predicted it would destroy the planet.” Jay Leno.

[@AGMI9]

hahaha it would be funny if we didnt live here

[@kayakMike1000]

Seeing as all the humans are here and the medieval warm was one or two degrees warmer than even now... I think we're going to be ok.

[@anthonymorris5084]

@@kayakMike1000 Yup, we're more than OK. Data proves Humanity has never been safer, healthier or more prosperous than at any time in history. Cheers.

[@danielanders4773]

So we're supposed to believe a comedian?

[@anthonymorris5084]

@@danielanders4773 Why wouldn't you believe him? His statement, while meant to be funny is still correct.

[@georgepotter1820]

Evolution or extinction? Are we able to learn to live in harmony with each other, nature and technology including AI? Sustainability not profitability. Mindfulness and self love, respect not exploitation. Our species faces a major die off, the population is passing the peak, passing a tipping point where our population goes from exponential growth to a transition to a new sustainable relationship with the ecosystem that has sustained us up until now. That downward curve can be as steep as a cliff which falls to zero, extinction, or it can begin steeply and recover as it returns to historic levels of sustainability, pre-technology levels such as pre-Columbian America. This could lead to a selection pressure that would produce a new species of hominid, speciation. The curve could be more gentle and could include technological solutions that would level off at a population that could both live more harmoniously with nature and each other and incorporate technology that would represent an evolution into a new species of technologically enhanced humanity, cyborgs. Taking life to other planets, terraforming and evolving new species of humans who could survive other planetary ecologies is another path that will require technologies including genetic engineering to reach for the stars. Managing these changes in a moral and humane way brings hope to a future that appears very scary from our selfish and ethnocentric perspectives. Keep up the good work or as John Perkins says "Dream True" instead of living like the hero of his book "Confessions of an Economic Hitman." Be blessed, you are a blessing. Aboriginal cultures have much to teach us.

[@johnpearson3761]

For the record, Glasgow is pronounced Glasgo. These things are easily checked on line.

[@whosamyjig]

Yes, rhymes with Moscow

[@bill8985]

@@whosamyjig No. Like stop and go. Glaz' - go.

[@whosamyjig]

Ah... carbon, the stuff of life

[@seawanderer8371]

2023 7:19 " basically have to accomplish this transition in about 10 years. " They were saying this back in 1990! 33 years ago! But we just doubled, tripled down. I'm sure Mann's a nice chap but he's just lullabying us: basically we're screwed! 😰

[@grandaisle]

Two groups hold us back: denialists and doomsayers. In the middle there is space for action and hope, supported by science.

[@C_R_O_M________]

Nonsense! Only science can take you forward in any domain. "Denialists" (as a commissioner from a communist regime would label anyone that disagrees with him) happen to be the top experts in the area. Mann is merely a geologist. Ask Dr. Lindzen, Happer, Giaever, Leggates, Soon, Curry, Christy, etc, etc, about their expert opinion on Mann's opinion and they'll give you a scientific view of his outlandishly alarmist claims.

[@C_R_O_M________]

Nonsense! Only science can take you forward in any domain. "Denialists" (as a commissioner from a communist regime would label anyone that disagrees with him) happen to be the top experts in the area. Mann is merely a geologist. Ask Dr. Lindzen, Happer, Giaever, Leggates, Soon, Curry, Christy, etc, etc, about their expert opinion on Mann's opinion and they'll give you a scientific view of his outlandishly alarmist claims. Try Tom Nelson's channel where he hosts many such interviews.

[@timbookedtwo2375]

@@C_R_O_M________ I agree with you on everything except your statement that Mann is a geologist. He's not. He calls himself a climate scientist. REAL geologists around the globe were laughing themselves silly when Mann claimed there was no Medieval Warm Period. The rock jocks know better.

[@hosnimubarak8869]

@@timbookedtwo2375 Mann never claimed there was no Medieval Warm Period.

[@timbookedtwo2375]

@@hosnimubarak8869 you are talking BS. see climategate emails. „get rid of mep.“

[@lindarose2327]

Who is he kidding. We are already past that 1.5 C we hold as the “safe” situation. We already have more than 65 irreversible feedback loops. His idea that Doomers are the enemy is ludicrous as they, knowing the future, are doing more for their communities and have not given up to do what can to help the planet. I wish he could tell the whole Truth in regards particularly to aerosol masking effect.

[@kayakMike1000]

Name one irreversible feedback loop that humans caused. Tipping points are so far out there, it's unlikely we'll ever conclusively identify them. This one time, there were continental sized super volcanoes that made huge basalt floods that erupted for thousands of years. The climate was sure impacted, but it eventually recovered. There was a mass extinction. We see a little increase in trace gasses like CO2 and methane, and you think THAT'S going to do anything? It's probably why today is such a beautiful day.

[@johnbatson8779]

we are not even close to the 1.5 C mark and your goofy feedback loops way overestimate the effects of CO 2 on global warming...Get back to Earth!!

[@lindarose2327]

There are more than 65 scientifically documented feedback loops so do your own research. We are also over the 1.5 degrees since the industrial revolution - but slight of hand is by changing the date from the original one of 1750 to 1850 or even 1890.

[@danielanders4773]

You'd think humans are something special. Sorry to burst your bubble last but were not. There's been plenty of species on this planet come and go and well be just another one.

[@jeffboutilier4696]

@@johnbatson8779 The original goal 'in 1989 ,the first I p c c they used 1750 as a baseline then ten years latter shifted that baseline . Do you fall for that crap ? Mann has downplayed this FOREVER .kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3qVnnyim9uerc0 . If he did the same thing as Guy Mcpherson he would have lost his position of privilage (his job) . Heres a look at reality

[@MiKE-jz6jt]

Yeah..? well get ready for that change to come REAL SOON..

[@C_R_O_M________]

Don't hold your breath!

[@timbookedtwo2375]

I thought Doc "Hock's" hockey stick has been debunked. Ironically, the symbol of "human caused global warming" is an ICE hockey stick.

[@scottekoontz]

You thought wrong. Back to Google school for you.

[@timbookedtwo2375]

@@scottekoontz Actually it has been debunked, certainly discredited. YOU "google" it! Mann claims he can't find his data (teacher, the dog ate my homework) and will not publish his statistical methodology. Two strikes. Then he sues anybody and everybody who calls him out. Strike three. Out!

[@scottekoontz]

@@timbookedtwo2375 Actually, as if factually, we all have the raw data. Mann never claimed he could not find it, but you go on believing that. The university had the rights to some of the algorithms, which are not to be used anyway since peer review is best when others perform the same or similar work without all the code. Methodology was published. Strikes zero and zero. Then he never sued anyone for calling him out. Strike zero... again. Are you feeling OK?

[@timbookedtwo2375]

@@scottekoontz Mann‘s hockey stick could be produced witth „red noise,“ ie random data. actually Mann told McIntyre he could not find his data and otherise refused to send him a copy anyway. If a person who claims to be a scientist yet refuses to drop his pants and and show his raw data and methodology so that others can replicate his study, he is no scientist. Mann‘s budget for suing his critics is probably larger than that for his research. His win-loss record is mosly the latter. Geologists were laughing their heads off when Mann made the Medieval Warm Period disappear.

[@patrick247two]

Thank you.

[@rickricky5626]

this guy is wayyyy too optimistic ,,,he is sugar coating it for real.....we are in way over our heads...we are 60 years too late....in 5 years the people will freak out and it will be chaos and madness

[@stillnessspeaks4080]

Why 5 years though? It probably depends where you live.. in Southern California I'm noticing like a heat wave in the middle of winter then the next day it's cold again. But I'm not sure what's going to happen next because the CO2 in the atmosphere hasn't been this high in millions of years. I guess you can hope there is a God to keep the planet safe because I don't think we can figure this out in time. Whatever that means.. I don't know what comes next.

[@anthonymorris5084]

Get a grip.

[@joeycrikey2594]

Right on.

[@LarryCleveland]

We are fkd. Too many people and too many agenda to get aligned behind any solution. The poor countries are feeling it not so they will be gone first and we will be doing ticktok videos.

[@Micscience]

I would say the opposite that you are being to alarmist. Give me a real reason to be alarmed? We don't know what the effects of more C02 in the atmosphere will do. We do know it will help plant life. We also know there was way more C02 in the past. I think to many people are becoming alarmist's when the models are predicting higher rates of warming but the actual results are less than what the models are predicting.

[@roseheikkinen6643]

Really appreciate this show and the work of all those who have contributed to this most recent IPCC report! It’s very clear how much work needs to be done to reach net zero in terms of CO2’s and methane emissions to avoid catastrophic weather related events. Yet, wonder if corporations and global citizens are willing to make the changes required to live sustainably? Our lives in industrialized nations are so dependent on conveniences of disposal goods and products made with plastics and chemicals produced in mass quantities, which bring jobs to the world economy, that is seems improbable to unravel a consumer driven economy that is so deeply embedded in fossil fuels. There needs to be a big reset in industrial nations to globally market a new sustainable lifestyle where we act as if everything we produce and consume has an impact and cost to this life on earth. Propaganda to shop until we drop and buy to make life easy and pleasurable will be hard to change and this is wrapped into the use of fossil fuels. If fossil fuel industries stop, how does the global economy retool all the productions of goods produced that are made from fossil fuels? Even medical equipment and products are made from plastics?

[@terencefield3204]

You seem to live in Lalaland

[@jimbobaggans1564]

Electric vehicles will do nothing. They are made of metal and plastic. Fossil fuels are used to make them! The electricity to power them! This is insane! Meanwhile the temperature will continue to rise for years to come. This guy is goofy! Bring the carbon down 50 percent within the decade? Oh geeze! Come on! Get real! This guy lives in a fantasy world. The poor and the working class will foot the bill for renewable energy. So where is the money going to come from to make this change? Guess what folks, it's us. You and I will will foot the bill and the temperature will still continue to rise. Yes, we do need to get away from Fossil fuels as much as possible. Within 10 years? Dream on.

[@HybridHalfie]

Industrial society has to collapse. Like you laid out there is no real sustainable global industrialized society without cheap and abundant fossil fuels.

[@bsmith8950]

Really ? Co2 is at 0.04% of the atmosphere and 96% of that comes from natural sources. There is no such thing as ''net zero'' . Dont you people realise that scientists like Michael Mann are paid millions of dollars to make all this data up , They are all in it for the money.

[@danielanders4773]

So in other words these clowns have no idea that fossil fuels are irreplaceable.

[@elainebraindrain3174]

Doomerism makes sense to me. No one is going to save us.

[@C_R_O_M________]

Especially from stupidity which seems to be flowing in abundance lately!

[@SuperTonyony]

The plutocrats who own the planet will dig up and burn every last ounce of fossil fuel. We are completely and utterly doomed.

[@johndelong5574]

If all the experts held their collective breath for a millenia ,methane production would be reduced considerably.

[@peterbotha1667]

once he started talking about covid i suspect he is a globalist

[@danielanders4773]

To the very core!!

[@denisdaly1708]

Conspiracy nut

[@danielanders4773]

@@denisdaly1708 yes Mann is the biggest climate conspiracy nut, along with, I'm a billionaire now, Al Gore. People like Denis knows exactly what's going on and that is governments, with the help of nefarious global corporations, are turning western countries into shitholes by subjugating its citizens into believing the climate is going to kill you. Next joke.

[@C_R_O_M________]

@@denisdaly1708 stating facts

[@marissadower-morgan3313]

Trolls ? It's not being a troll to know when this is too big for our weak government or Corporate profit driven social structured world to be counting on their good safety guidance from them . If we are only depending on NGO's to solve this we are in terrible trouble .

[@danielanders4773]

Again women, especially ones with hyphenated names, always come in and spoil a good argument. Governments, NGO's, please. They're the reason our world is teetering on a nuclear war ffs

[@C_R_O_M________]

You are in terrible trouble to begin with if you believe a heavily government-funded scientists that has been involved in multiple scandals like the climategate emails and manipulating proxy data for his fraudulent hockey stick. Go watch an interview by Dr. Ross McKittrick on that.

[@pool2587]

Appear on crowdsource the truth

[@quraibawentzel4143]

It's too late,we're not going to stop the warming.Make peace with everything and live with gratitude. Bless you.

[@natashaj6611]

rich people will be fine. the human race will survive. it is only common people that will suffer. perhaps we just train common people to accept suffering.

[@miguelangelgonzalez1831]

Temperature will go up around 20°C by 2100 due to methane melting or evaporation. Does not seem the biomembrane enveloping earth can adapt.

[@finkum09]

CH4 is almost totally masked by water vapor. Not a factor.

[@C_R_O_M________]

Not 20C ...200C ...crank up the alarmism even if it's totally nonsense, who knows a grant may find its way towards you!

[@df83105]

It is reliably reported SAR IPCC report 1996 original scientists draft stated “ No study to date has both detected a significant climate change and positively attributed all or part of that change to anthropogenic causes.” The politicians changed this (without consulting all participating scientists to “The balance of evidence suggests a discernible human influence on global climate.” (IPCC, 1996, p4) Frederick Sietz, The President of US Academy of Sciences wrote in the Wall Street Journal about a “A Major Deception On Global Warming.” He used the word corruption in the article. All these scaremongering started with acid rain, global cooling and so on to climate change and now the focus is on CO2 a minor green house gas whose energy footprint is 1 watt per square metre compared with 100 watts per square metre due to solar orbit. Some people are making huge profits out of this fear and taking our freedom away.

[@Magik1369]

Warming has already exceeded 1.5 deg C. It is actually closer to 2.0 deg C. This is because the IPCC moved the goal posts or baseline date from which global average temperatures are calculated. The time for a "climate war" was 20 years ago. As it is, multiple tipping points have already been breached. Freshwater is quickly disappearing, forests are spontaneously combusting, crops are being destroyed, and wet bulb conditions and drought are manifesting everywhere in the world. Everyone believes that we have until 2100 or 2050 to act. This is entirely false and is based upon the scientist's prior deeply flawed models. People think a slow transition to green energy is the way forward. Wrong again. There is no time for a transition. Climate change is now abrupt, exponential, and irreversible. We will be lucky if civilization is still functioning by 2030.

[@teddybearroosevelt1847]

I agree largely, but would add that we really don’t know how quickly things will deteriorate. There are so many feedback loops that are all interrelated. There are many areas on which studies contradict each other. In other words, there are too many known unknowns, unknown unknowns, and interdependencies among the many relevant variables in the hypercomplex system called planet earth that we can only really guesstimate as to what’s gonna happen.

[@timbookedtwo2375]

Repent! The end is near!

[@grindupBaker]

Liar. At 2023 it's +1.28 degrees +/- 0.25 degrees uncertainty higher GMST than 1750. It's all available in the internet by scientists but of course the innumerable liars like you have zero interest in facts as best known.

[@kielcemen]

Jesus F. Christ. Crops were the most bountiful in history. Fires are aplenty, if you watch too much TV. If you ask guys that count them it was meh. Have some common sense.

[@michah321]

yeah, I'll save this video and and get back to you on that 🙄🙄

[@RalphEllis]

lce Ages were modulated by ice-sheet aIbedo, not by CO2. CO2 is not the primary control knob - as I have demonstrated in my peer-review paper. In reality, the feedback agent modulating ice ages was actually ice-sheet dust-albedo. See: Modulation of lce Ages via Dust and AIbedo. The first problem with ice ages is: When CO2 concentrations were high the world cooled, and when CO2 was low the world warmed. This counter-intuitive temperature response strongly suggests that CO2 is not the primary feedback agent. The second problem with ice ages is: Ice ages are forced by increased Milankovitch insolation in the Northern Hemisphere (NH), but never by increased insolation in the Southern Hemisphere. If CO2 were the primary feedback agent interglacials could and would be forced by increased insolation in either hemisphere, but they are not. The fact that interglacials are only ever NH events, strongly suggests that surface albedo is the primary feedback agent (the great landmasses being in the NH), rather than CO2. The third problem with ice ages is: During an ice age, many NH Milankovitch maxima produce little or temperature response. Again, this would be unlikely if CO2 was the primary feedback agent, but it is to be expected if surface albedo was the primary feedback. High albedo ice sheets covered in fresh snow can and will reject the increased insolation from a NH Milankovitch maximum, resulting in little or no temperature response. Unless, of course, the ice sheets are somehow covered in dust, thus reducing their albedo. Fortuitously, the northern ice sheets do indeed get covered in dust just before each and every interglacial. This is the topic of my ice age modulation paper - the counter-intuitive method of dust production, and its function as the primary feedback agent controlling interglacial warming. The fourth problem with ice ages is: The CO2 is a very weak feedback agent indeed. During an interglacial warming era, the CO2 feedback requires warming from decade to decade, to feedback-force temperatures into the next (warmer) decade. Unfortunately the CO2 feedback is only 0.007 W/m2 per decade, which is less energy than a bee requires to fly. Conversely, reduced albedo ice sheets can absorb an extra 200 W/m2 every single annual year, when measured regionally. Clearly the albedo feedback is far stronger than the proposed CO2 feedback, and could indeed dissipate the vast northern ice sheets in about 6,000 years. All of the above points strongly suggest that ice sheet albedo is the primary feedback agent modulating interglacials, rather than CO2. …. Increased dust is caused by low CO2 concentrations, because CO2 is plant-food, and the most essential gas in the atmosphere. Thus low CO2concentrations cause the death of all C3 vegetation at high altitude, causing CO2 deserts to form across the Gobi plateau. Dust from these CO2 deserts formed the huge dust deposits of the Loess Plateau, and also covered the northern ice sheets in dust - which lowered the albedo of the ice sheets and precipitated melting. See: Modulation of lce Ages via Dust and AIbedo. Ralph Ellis

[@hosnimubarak8869]

Stay in school Ralphy.

[@timbookedtwo2375]

Ignore Hosni. He's some internet troll who has no facts to offer. He just bullshits the other commentators.

[@hosnimubarak8869]

@@timbookedtwo2375 So you support Ralphy's statement "When CO2 concentrations were high the world cooled, and when CO2 was low the world warmed.

[@timbookedtwo2375]

@@hosnimubarak8869 yes. there is no correlation and certainly no causation. what do you think? where is your documentation? put up or shut up.

[@hosnimubarak8869]

@@timbookedtwo2375 Do you deny current atmospheric concentrations of CO2 are over 30% higher than they were about 150 years ago at the dawn of the industrial revolution and in the same time span the average global temperature on Earth has increased by about 0.8° Celsius (1.4° Fahrenheit) since 1880. Two-thirds of the warming has occurred since 1975, at a rate of roughly 0.15-0.20°C per decade, roughly ten times faster than the average rate of ice-age-recovery warming?

[@stevehewitt1151]

We've got to get rid of the Medieval Warm Period!

[@danielanders4773]

NASA has already done it!!

[@C_R_O_M________]

@@danielanders4773 which is preposterous as WE KNOW that Vikings were actually living in Greenland at that time.

[@kevindickson2178]

berkley educated

[@grindupBaker]

Same old same old drivel from you Russian trolls, endlessly debunked over the last 10 years or more.

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

substantive human rights states / nation unity of God's federal sovereignty take over UN

[@jimcree6869]

I blame Fred Flintstone for melting the mile of ice that existed 12000yrars ago

[@denisdaly1708]

Fred has alot to answer for

[@WindowsPhone-gb2fk]

There is no climate crisis, no climate emergency. co2 is the elixir of life.

[@grindupBaker]

CO2 is wildfire fuel. That's LITERALLY what it is.

[@terrymoore861]

THE IPCC fail to acknowledge the affect of the current magnetic pole shift!

[@scottekoontz]

Ah yes, the magic come out. Maybe it's something all scientists tell you it is not. Good show, science aliterate.

[@williamkinnell79]

I've listened to this guy before and I consider him to be dangerous. WKK

[@scottwood5515]

Why?

[@C_R_O_M________]

@@scottwood5515 If you had ever followed the "climate" connundrum you'd know. Try the climategate emails for starters or interviews of Dr. Ross McKittrick.

[@JW4REnvironment]

The world is truly fortunate to have Michael Mann speak out about the realities of the climate emergency. He has brought strong science to the political debate that has been so frustratingly slow. Thank heaven for Dr Mann and others like Bill McKibbin and Al Gore for speaking out against the greedy fossil fuel lobby and the inactivists.

[@danielanders4773]

All very wealthy leftwing charlatans. Next joke?

[@ZigZagHockey]

What year was it that Al Gore predicted "The Arctic will be ice free in the summer seven years from now" ? A venial man who has made a fortune trading in the carbon market, this market is somewhat similar to the craze for black tulips that enveloped the normally reasonably sane Dutch in the 15th Century it was based on nothing of any value to anyone. When will people wake up and realize that there is no such thing as a 'carbon footprint'. All of human activity - traffic, farming, manufacturing, breathing, is responsible for only 3% of the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and carbon dioxide is only 0.04% of the Earth's atmosphere - so we are talking about 3% of 0.04%. There is no climate emergency, it is a myth invented by Mann and he has done very well out of his invention.

[@hosnimubarak8869]

@@ZigZagHockey "What year was it that Al Gore predicted "The Arctic will be ice free in the summer seven years from now". Gore never said that.

[@ZigZagHockey]

@@hosnimubarak8869 Yes he did, a video of him saying that during his Nobel Prize award ceremony speech is easily found on the Internet - you can listen to him lying for yourself.

[@hosnimubarak8869]

@@ZigZagHockey Bad Argument/Myth #9: CO2 only makes a small portion of the atmosphere. 1) He wasn't driving drunk, he just had a trace of blood alcohol; 0.08%. 2) Don't worry about your iron deficiency, iron is only 4.4 ppm of your body’s atoms. 3) Ireland isn't important; it's only.066%) of the world population. 4)That ibuprofen pill can't do you any good; it's only 3 ppm of your body weight 5)The Earth is insignificant, it's only 3 ppm of the mass of the solar system. 6) Your children can drink that water, it only contains a trace of arsenic (0.01 ppm is the WHO and US EPA limit).

[@johndelong5574]

Most of the earth is a vast frozen wasteland.Try scaring alaskans with the prospect of 1° increase in global temp.

[@timbookedtwo2375]

They would probably say, "What? Only one degee?"

[@pascalw.paradis8954]

He can't tell the whole truth. People would panic. It's OVER BABY. Another billion people in 7 years. Our goose is cooked,, GET REAL ❤️❤️🌎❤️❤️

[@C_R_O_M________]

Actually it's the other way around. He now seems to backtrack from the foolish and outlandish alarmist claims he made earlier in his fraudulent career (see McIntyre and McKittrick, or Dr. Idso, about that) so as to save some face for the false predictions that gave all socioeconomic reins to governments and central planners.

[@terrymoore861]

CO2 is NOT the problem!

[@scottekoontz]

Must be the sun, right? Were you taught that less solar irradiation means more warming? That's some serious science you got going on there.

[@derekmoore2779]

Australian Coral Reef is now the healthiest in are history ,

[@C_R_O_M________]

Dr. Ridd is doing a fantastic job to expose the outlandish lies these people have been feeding the public.

[@kalidoscope511]

Just hurry up and take all my tax/carbon/electricity/gas money now , I cant wait till electric cars are mandated so I never have to go to work again. Hooray

[@pool2587]

Malthusian solution

[@derekmoore2779]

The carbon omission helped the earth in keeping warm and reducing The heating of the earth and maintaining a healthy temperature, and carbon for greening of the earth 🌎

[@LanceLaCroix]

Question for Michael... how many of earth's existing inhabitants are you "OK" with killing off wiht the implementation of these policies?

[@douggillman7705]

Pay attention to the SUN….

[@ronaldgarrison5528]

42:00 Make that four and a half years, from now. McXtinction said, on Nov 25, 2016, on the Paul Henry show (New Zealand) that he'd be very surprised if there were any humans left in 10 years. Nov 25, 2026 is marked on my calendar. You're all invited to my party, scheduled for then.

[@radman1136]

What is wrong with you? If you ..... fuck it, never mind ....

[@bargdaffy1535]

Yeah, McPherson might still be proven correct at the rate "Events" are occurring. "Once the ability to Produce, Distribute and Store grains, vegetables and meats at Scale and Scope fails, it is pretty much over for Human Civilization and then the 450 global nuclear plants start burning spent fuels rods and it is game over for any life on the surface of Earth. Besides, it is really all that much better if Human are gone by 2050 rather than 2026? 2050 a for sure, and you are going to find out really soon.

[@janklaas6885]

42:34

[@ronaldgarrison8478]

@@janklaas6885 Whatever. I'm sure the arrivals to my party won't notice that 34 seconds.

[@janklaas6885]

@@ronaldgarrison8478 NO 1 will be on your party, not even me, the only 1 that liked your reaction in the past. 😁

[@kevindickson2178]

there are lies, damn lies, statistics, and models

[@grindupBaker]

Same old same old drivel from you Russian trolls, endlessly debunked over the last 10 years or more.

[@denisdaly1708]

great talk.

[@dennisroland5654]

Dr. Mann dismissed the threat posed by the continuous and unstoppable loss of ice in the Arctic Ocean, which has led to irreversible melting of permanently frozen soils and seabed sediments--both of which are releasing increasing amounts of methane into the atmosphere. He cited isotopic signatures in atmospheric methane from warmer climes. He cannot be unaware of what is happening in the Arctic. Disingenuous at best, self-serving at worst.

[@kiedranFan2035]

The rest of the good comment I just had to stop with Dr.mann. I'm getting so many interstellar vibes here, oh my

[@rosalbadelriogarcia9598]

#NLG natural liquid gas is taken from Artic fracking fields where 14 countries own rights to it or have a claim on it #ARTICcircleAlliance #DouglasVogt #Nova #junkscience #bjornLomborg #alexesptein all of this is trash, be the science doesn't support it...look to physics and engineering for the solution. the planet is heating up on its own. there is evidence that other planets in our solar system also went through a cataclysm. #eatMeat #meathraks #Revero The future of the world lies with the city dwellers elect politicians that can pass policies that can literally save humanity. the elites rather go to space.

[@rosalbadelriogarcia9598]

#merchantswar #merchantmarine the USA just like Australia it was created and allowed to exist to protect merchants on the high seas. we still go all over the world to protect corporate interests. ..this B's is so hard to hear

[@danielanders4773]

But Biden just bombed the Nordstrom pipelines allowing methane to be expelled into the atmosphere. He said he was saving the planet. Not sure how you do it by bombing gas pipelines.

[@C_R_O_M________]

What nonsense! By God! You people are incredible! You are somehow convinced of some vague climate emergency even though NOTHING (apart from bought media, government-sponsored scientists and the governments themselves - all with huge incentives to deceive you) around you would make you think that if you haven't been totally brainwashed! This is a good definition for stupidity!

[@pool2587]

The Tyee, Trudeau pipeline

[@peterrichards931]

According to climate experts back in 1989, we're already way past the point of no return. Droughts and famines are all around us, sea levels have risen 5 to 8 feet, the polar bear population has been so extremely reduced, it's gone down past-zero to actually a negative number of polar bears today. Seeds no longer germinate, and mankind has been forced into cannibalism, and we're gobbling each other up. Ancient civilizations on distant planets sit back and laugh at us, having deemed we're a species not worth saving.

[@martingraziosi45]

Please, read Bjon Lonborg.

[@tallinthesaddle1727]

How do you silence a climate change alarmist? Ask them this question: What is the proper amount of atmospheric CO2. Most have no answer. If they give you a number ask them how that number was proven to be scientifically correct. First it was air pollution, then it was global warming, now it’s climate change. In the ’70’s air pollution was going to blot out the sun and put us into an ice age and mass starvation. We were also going to run out of oil. Many claims were made by the (well funded) “experts” that never happened. Then the (well funded) “expert” climate watchdogs transitioned into frightening claims about global warming. They ignored climate history showing warmer global temperatures before the industrial age showing no human cause and effect to temperatures but never the less tried to convince us with their inaccurate computer predictions. Now we have (well funded) “experts” telling us the weather system is broken and using the term “climate change” to prove it. What did climate do before it changed? Here’s the problem as I see it. Humanity has been subjected to over fifty years of (well funded) “expert” claims that didn’t happen. Have any of those spewing lies ever been held accountable? No. They continue on (well funded) unabated. Here’s where I think this whole scene needs to go. Funding stops until claims are specifically defined, measured and verified, the climate change alarmists must describe exactly what is wrong with the climate, how they know that, can prove it with verifiable testing (isn’t that how real science works?) before humanity is deprived of the many benefits of fossil fuel just because they say so. Have they said what the proper amount of atmospheric CO2 should be? No. How will they prove the number they decide on will fix climate change? How will anyone know when climate change has been fixed? There seems to be no scientific method at work here only assumptions, emotional warnings and ultimatums. Could billions of dollars in grant money prompt someone to say something they don’t really believe and can’t prove? Folks there are too many unanswered questions to take any of this seriously. Anybody remember Biosphere? It was a 200 million dollar, self contained and self sustaining, tightly controlled, environment for 8 people designed by “experts” and was a colossal failure after only 2 years. Do you really believe “experts” can fix Earth’s weather system? What could possibly go wrong?

[@coleorum]

So what is the proper amount of C02 in the atmosphere?

[@lb3952]

Have you read the Intergovernmental panel of climate change reports? Produced by hundreds of scientists representing every country in the world and including a summary to policy makers on how to mitigate and adapt to climate change. Virtually every scientist in the world unanimously agree that mankind’s fossil fuel exploitation is contributing to the massive increase in carbon emissions in the atmosphere. The answers are all out there. We know how to solve this however it requires a massive societal change. If we love our children we will make that change to ensure the best possible future for them.

[@raduungureanu2080]

@@coleorum less than 350ppm

[@danielanders4773]

@@raduungureanu2080 what rubbish. Another pretentious human who thinks they own this ball.

[@danielanders4773]

Buddy that post was easily the best I've read about this debate (and I've read a lot) and everything you mentioned is accurate. Way too many experts continually get their models spectacularly wrong and they just update it and kick the doomsday prophecy dates down the road and that ahole Mann is the greatest charlatan of the lot, after Al Gore of course! Congratulations.

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

sovereign God substantive choice organizing people of world; stop political government / nations butchering of God's kingdom

[@terencefield3204]

Oh dear he is so profoundly unconvincing. A some he is so timid because of the litigation against the hockey stick event.A shame.

[@TCRgalaxy]

WASF 🔥🌏🔥

[@paulchace2391]

IPCC = USELESS

[@brooksanderson2599]

It has been politicized like the World Health Organization. The Arctic sea ice is in terminal melt and we can expect a "blue ocean event" (fewer than i million square kilometers of reflective snow and ice) in under 5 years. That event will result in a dramatic rise in Arctic sea temperature and melting/sublimating of seafloor methane clathrates and tundra. And, that will seal our fate. The IPCC does not take this into account in their summary reports. Granted, in a recent survey, less than 1% of people want to know when they are goig to die. So. According to prof. Guy McPherson said that he would be surprised if there was anybody on Earth by 2026.

[@franklinblunt69]

ClimateCon grift

[@grindupBaker]

You type DRIVEL

[@terenceiutzi4003]

Why isn't this fraud In prison?

[@C_R_O_M________]

Because he was whitewashed by his employer, the governments!

[@johnweir1217]

Climate gate has totally destroyed this mann's credibility.

[@grindupBaker]

You typed Sloganeering Drivel

[@philadams1495]

Your hockey stick computer modelling has been discredited by hundreds of scientists

[@MrFpjohn]

Who are wrong. Actual observed temperatures have validated it.

[@chrisruss9861]

Wonder how his court case is going with Mark Steyn.

[@horst4439]

​@@chrisruss9861 The court which counts is the reality right now. Jurisdiction doesn't understand anything an can be manipulated.

[@danielanders4773]

He's a disgraceful leftwing acolyte. Nothing more, nothing less. Wouldn't listen to him for 1 minute. His mate Obama has bought two multimillion homes right on the coast. Obviously he didn't believe the scare he was promulgating to get into the oval office. These guys are a scourge.

[@grandaisle]

Or, here in reality, it's been validated and in some ways enhanced time and again.

[@terenceiutzi4003]

Why is this fraud not in prison?

[@kalidoscope511]

You know the answer , and so does everyone else who smells a scam

[@bsmith8950]

''we need to limit temperature increase to 1.5c '' how arrogant can you get. The idea that humans can somehow change or manipulate the climate or temperature is just absurd nonsense.

[@hosnimubarak8869]

Wow! (And I don't mean that in a good way).

[@davebrown5850]

Mann is he corrupt!

[@hosnimubarak8869]

Proof.

[@77goanywhere]

As soon as I read Michael Mann I knew that this was going to be a pure propaganda piece. This "science" is totally discredited as someone yo be taken seriously.

[@hosnimubarak8869]

Nope!

[@lawsonspedding6136]

Total hysterical non science BS !

[@natashaj6611]

I love how he repeats the doomer message over and over and over but says the hopeful message once. Who pays this guy?

[@anthonymorris5084]

Data proves we've never been safer, healthier or more prosperous than at any time in history. Warming is a net positive for humanity. History proves life flourishes under warming.

[@TCRgalaxy]

Bullshit level defcon 5!!!

[@anthonymorris5084]

@@TCRgalaxy Climate zealotry 101 - Always reject any science or data that you simply don't like. Invalidate the messenger when ever you can't defend an argument. The data is correct and easily found. You just have to be willing to look instead of continuously blindly defending false narratives at all costs.

[@jeffrichied4521]

Tell that to New Mexico. Or Australia a few years ago. Or the Amazon. Just bc it’s not outside your kitchen window doesn’t mean it’s not happening. The rate of extinction of species is higher now than at any time in human history. Loss of biodiversity equals a more fragile food web & eventually that will hit humans hard. Check in w the former residents of Easter Island if u don’t believe so.

[@anthonymorris5084]

@@jeffrichied4521 The loss of plant and animal species is the most disingenuous argument of them all. Humans have been annihilating the animal kingdom for 500 years. This die off is solely caused by poaching, over fishing and plant and animal habitat destruction due to human encroachment. In the 1800's 100,000 tigers roamed the wild. Today there are around 3,500. Not a single tiger perished because of climate change. The entire Eastern cod fisheries was shut down due to over fishing. Humans slaughtered 75 million sharks last year alone. I doubt a single shark has ever died from climate change. Even polar bears are thriving. The climate isn't killing anything. Rhinos, elephants, mountain gorillas, panthers, snakes, and on and on all threatened solely because of poaching and human encroachment. Some of it due to human conflict. In fact, every single plant and animal species across the entire northern hemisphere is experiencing growing habitat due to a warming planet. They are all migrating north away from population centers in the south. Grizzly bears can now be found thriving at higher altitudes and further north. It's the first time in history their habitat has actually expanded. All thanks to a warming planet. You simply see a problem and blindly push the narrative and blame everything on climate change. It's incredibly irresponsible.

[@lindarose2327]

History does no such thing. Only 1 out of 100 people on earth are safer, healthier or more prosperous. Be grateful you are in that bracket but don’t put your head in the sand. Please educate yourself on the situation we are facing.

[@olimpiodemeloalvaresjunior7780]

This man is completely ignorant about the efficiency of lockdowns. What a shame!