Michael Jordan vs LeBron James!! Who is BETTER???

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[@jimmymcnulty4759]

So MJ gets 4.5 out of 5 in scoring? Are u serious? MJ is the best scorer in the NBA history by far. On the other hand you give LEbron 5 out of 5 in passing. Yes he is a very good passer, but what would u give to players like Magic, Stockton and Nash then?

[@anthonyclark6519]

buddy，you should look again the video and pay attention to what he said

[@a1-ad-449]

If Jordan could shoot like kd from 3 he’d have a 5 out of 5 in scoring

[@bopbop1353]

Kevin Durant and Kobe Bryant think otherwise

[@Ejenkins814]

Facts..he messed this up totally

[@heavyd192]

I feel curry a better scorer than him

[@zachh13]

What do you mean LeBron has had no major injuries? Cramps hurt man 😂😂😂😂😂

[@wavyiann9788]

Cramps don’t have a long lasting pain on your whole career it’s not about pain its about time LeBron got back a few days from a cramp

[@mrblend]

Jordan. We will see as the comparisons keep going. In the conversation of the GOAT, Its always been *Insert Name* vs Jordan.

[@semtex234]

Yea the fact that it's always blank vs. Jordan just shows that Jordan is the G.O.A.T.

[@idontdeserveaname1152]

Just about to be ____ vs Lebron 😁

[@mrblend]

@@idontdeserveaname1152 yeahh... probably never. It will never be unanimous as it was for MJ.

[@idontdeserveaname1152]

@@mrblend what how? If lebron wins one more they weren’t be much of discussion as all Jordan will have by then is 1 more ring

[@mrblend]

@@idontdeserveaname1152 Eventually the years catch up, X amount of years to get Y rings and a Z amount of team ups.... when we talk about the number 1 spot, how you get there matters. He will NEVER get the MJ treatment, which pretty much was 98% of people from 1998 to maybe 2015 had him down as GOAT. There is a bigger chunk now that has LeBron in there but MJ will never disappear. MJ came into the NBA as a Robin, worked his ass off and left as Superman. LBJ came in like Superman and will leave like Batman/Robin. Both great, but there is a difference. Its been fun for me regardless, I been watching since 1990 and have been blessed to see some of the best basketball and basketball players of the sport.

[@valmirgashi6235]

i don't get why so many people just say mj without thinking._.

[@kitdylo]

Exactly

[@homiz96]

nike brainwashing

[@joshjackson5814]

because its been true for so long they dont need too but will prove it when needed

[@dannyx7033]

because u dont even need to think

[@Joseph-ii3lj]

MJ>Lebron end of discussion

[@kingej7653]

In 13 years Lebron has 3. In 13 MJ has 6. In 13 Bill Russell had 11.

[@joshjackson5814]

8 teams nigga

[@joshjackson5814]

also had 8 hall of famers

[@7thwave_]

By your logic Horry>AD23 gtfoh please and thank you

[@skinnypimp8854]

+Roderick David horry does have more of a legacy than ad23 tho lol

[@SomewhatInteresting]

With that logic Mo Williams is better than Karl malone

[@ItsSwah]

EASY michael jordan

[@TheBilaras97]

you said that turnovers was a weakness for mj but lebron who avaraged more to hasnt got that weakness???

[@Shemzinho]

exactly.

[@poho1918]

because in almost all years the offense ran solely through him

[@MrAlmiranda]

exactly

[@Mostillist]

lebrons been the point guard on all of his teams thats why

[@ttarif0]

Bill Nanos LeBron has more assists better assist to ratio

[@producewithjt]

Intangibles: MJ was the most elegant / stylish player to ever play the game. No highlight reel compares to his. Poetry on the court.

[@SOLZandSAGE]

Nah but LOW great vid tho all in all. One last point, if LeBron is only .5 off rn, he can still make up for that in the next 4-5 years he has left.

[@SomewhatInteresting]

Lebron can play 9 more years if he wants to, he's so athletic that he can play till he is 40 probably

[@Jakobe249]

+PigPlays [HD] athleticism dont last long..smh hes got atleast 3-4 years. yall trippin

[@KirbyWill]

+PigPlays [HD] have you not seen Lebron lately? He has sat out for games because of back spasms. Those just don't go away. He will only be this athletic for a few more years

[@SomewhatInteresting]

J bruh im not saying hes gonna be AMAZING when hes 40 but he can play till then, timmy did it and so did MJ... Will Kirby

[@ballerbaby5967]

+J bruh why you want his career to end so quick? all you'll have is Curry's fanbase lmfao, hatin ass nigga trying to protect MJ and Kobe

[@BEDCORN]

I can already tell I am going to spend hours arguing with people on this topic, Legend Of Winning is GOAT for making a trendy KZbin video like this knowing many Lebron-stans are prisoners of the moment and are going to jump the gun and say he is greater than Jordan just because they think he is going to win more championships in the future.

[@LegendOfWinningNBA]

LOL was it that obvious that is what I did

[@BEDCORN]

Legend Of Winning It was needed

[@BEDCORN]

***** lol?

[@gavinoprimo2535]

Bro Lebron has been better since he won his SECOND ring

[@SecondlifeFinishwell]

+Gavin Sexius If that is the case how come he lost in the finals the year right after he won his 2nd ring.

[@anthonykazi543]

Both are fucking great. I don't think we will see those kind of players, so everybody can stfu and appreciate what they got. No hate on you though, keep up the good work

[@jakobe328]

difference between the two is that MJ was undisputed the best player when he was playing (barring his wizards days) whereas lebron has let an undersized guard come around the shop, shoot three's all day and dethrone him in the eye's of many. not only curry but durant was talked about being better than lebron in his MVP year, kobe was accepted as the next best thing over lebron for a few years. michael was dominant... he was bested by the pistons when he was younger and he got up and did his all to CRUSH the best defensive team in the history of the game. after that NOBODY could compete with him... name 1 player in his era that was ever talked about being better, please. lebron has been bested at some point in his career by not only curry but by durant and kobe.

[@jakobe328]

lebrons only up side to MJ is that he can play 4 of 5 positions, MJ was just not tall enough and that's not skill, that's luck and i guarantee that if MJ had 2 or 3 more inches he'd be as bulky, as quick and as athletic as lebron if not more so. giving someone the nod over something out of either of their control is ridiculous.

[@nitinnoel8659]

with ur logic i.t would be goat life aint fair face it

[@jayburton9805]

Jordan's in another category. LeBron's 'chasing the ghost' because he knows this. Jordan, 6-0 in finals. 6 finals mvp. Lebron 3-5 in finals. Chocked a finals against Dallas. Has choked numerous games. Jordan is more clutch, stronger will and has a killer instinct LeBron wish to posses. LeBron won his first 2 champs with a super team. Then carried that mentality over to Cleveland. Jordan never jumped shipped. Don't give me he had a super team when a no-name Scottie Pippen, who came off the bench his first two years, was drafted to Chicago. Jordan and his squad developed together. Jordan kept legends from champs. Dominated a younger generation like Shaq and Penny. Came back at 38 and was still one of the best players in the league. Do you remember what he did to Vince Carter? Shut him down completely in a second half game. Scored 50 points at 39 years old. Jordan's defense is better. He has better instinct, better foot work, mental game, better hands, and better technique. He did all this in a tougher era. Stop this madness. We all remember hearing the Kobe comparison but nada since he's retired. Don't think this won't be the same when LeBron's done. #MJGOAT

[@KyleMPrep]

Buttttt Jordan also had a capable front office that could draft, sign very good free agents that complimented him, and had team mates that took extremely undervalued contracts. Lebron James took one of the most trash teams to the NBA finals in 2007 and took a very mediocre team in 2018 to the finals. He also faked everyone out for a hot second in 2015 that he could win the series. Let me remind you that this golden state team was a 67-15 team. And he was missing his two best players after overtime of game 1. He lead a team that started Mathew Delevadova to winning 2 games and taking a 2-1 lead. And then do I really need to mention 2016? Really? Was Lebron as well rounded a scorer? No, but that’s not his main focus. He doesn’t take control of games like Jordan does because many times he doesn’t need to. He makes his team mates so much better than they should be. Do you think that Jordan could take a team where his second best players are Mo Williams and Big Z to 66 wins? I just can’t believe that. While I do think Jordan is a underrated passer, he is NOT Lebron James. Lebron is a top five playmaker all time. His vision, accuracy, speed of delivery, and versatility of passes... he’s the second best passer all time only behind Magic. Defensively, Jordan is better. Just flat out better. Sorry to Lebron Stans, but Jordan is the much better defender. However, Lebron is more versatile so take that how you want. Rebounding? Meh. They’re about equal in my opinion. Athleticism? Lebron. Yes Jordan was a freak of nature, but Lebron is so much more athletic it’s not even funny 😂😂 Jordan was around 195-215 and had a 46 inch vertical with great body control and was very quick. Lebron? Add around 35-40 pounds of muscle on top of that, lower his vert by 2 inches, make him faster and have around the same quickness, give him longer arms, and make him 2-3 inches taller and tell me what you got. A freakin demigod. Just to show how stupidly athletic he was, Lebron almost signed with the cowboys in 2011, was the star receiver for his high school and was getting D1 college offers as a sophomore. I think he still holds the record for most yards and TDs ever in that schools history. So, I think Lebron is the better player, buttttt I think Jordan is the greater player. I mean, Lebron shits all time great performances. Off the top of my head here’s some. Game 1 of the 2018 finals, game 6 of the 2012 ECF, game 5 and 7 of the 2016 finals, game 6 of the 2007 ECF, the entire 2009 ECF, all of Lebronto, game 6 and 7 of the 2013 NBA finals, game 6 of the 2018 ECF, should I keep going? That was just off the top of my head. Lebron is the best player in NBA history off of just pure talent, but Jordan is the greatest. Thank you for your time

[@KyleMPrep]

Oh and rq, that second three peat was kind of a super team. Jordan and Scottie are both top 50 all time and we’re top 10 to even top 5 depending on who you ask player in the league at the time. Now add another all time great defender and the second greatest rebounder as your third best player along with shooters, defenders, rebounders, etc. yeah you got a super team dude

[@jayburton9805]

@@KyleMPrep We can go tick for tact all day but all those LeBron credentials doesn't erase his meltdowns. You throw up all-time great performances, right? What about game 6 against Boston in the ECF in 2010? I clearly remember the announcer, Mark Jackson, saying he smelled 'quit.' How bout the, I don't know, 2011 Finals against the Mavs, who were the inferior team? Worst superstar choke I've ever witnessed, and that was with his superteam. You know, Wade, Bosh, and some other descent role players. Jordan has never choked in a finals. Doesn't have that mark on his legacy. That's a significant difference... killer instinct. Jordan went through hell for nearly a decade (with those drafts and free agents you oh so made clear) before capturing a ring. I also remember him making the playoffs his first three years without a Scottie Pippen, who was still in college. Do you remember what the Bulls organization looked like before Jordan got there??? LeBron didn't make the playoffs his first two years. LeBron did all this magic with no-names, huh? I'll give you that. But how competitive was the eastern conference the entirety of LeBron's career? The west was clearly superior for most of that. Ask Kobe. Won't take away from LeBron's greatness or his accomplishments, but not including his evident flaws that keeps him far from a complete competitor as Jordan is silly. But keep reaching.

[@KyleMPrep]

Jay Burton I am not defending 2011. I agree that was a choke job. But you bring up game 6 2010 ECF. Name a player on his team that was as good as Paul Pierce that wasn’t Lebron. How about someone as good as Garnett? Rondo? Ray Allen? Yeah I’m sorry but no. You expect Lebron James to take a roster or Daniel Gibson, old Big Z, Mo Williams, a washed up Shaq, Jamario Moon, etc. to the finals, and then compete with the 2010 Lakers? Let’s just look at the ECF. The 2010 Celtics had KG, The Truth, Ray Allen who at the time was considered the greatest shooter ever, a prime Rajon Rondo, Kendrick Perkins who MVP caliber player Dwight Howard said was his toughest defender, Nate Robinson, Glen Davis, Rasheed Wallace, Eddie house, I mean, do I really have to keep going? Do you really expect Lebron to carry that team? Do you expect Jordan to carry that team? Now, let’s say they won, and they went up against the 2010 Lakers. Here’s who they play, Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol, Lamar Odom, Ron Artest, Andrew Bynum, Derek Fisher, and Sasha Vujačić. That’s a pretty good team. Not to mention they were coached by the greatest couch of all time in Phil Jackson. Not to mention his absolutely incapable front office that wouldn’t trade a no name player for a prime Amare Stoudumire. The deal was done until Cleveland got cold feat. You know what Chicago did for Jordan? I’m ‘91 Jordan had a very good team. Now Jordan was clearly the best player, but it was a very good team none the less. You had Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen who was a very good defender and a budding offensive player, Horace Grant, B. J. Armstrong who was a solid PG, John Paxton another good PG, Bill Cartwright who had the ugliest J but it went in, was a good defender and rebounder, and just did the dirty work. He also had the greatest couch of all time in Phil Jackson. Yeah it’s not a bad team what so ever like many people think. So excuse Lebron for going to Miami because he wanted a situation that could actually be successful. I see Lebron getting hate for it, I see Wade getting hate, but what about the original modern super team. I see no one calling out the Celtics for it. Like I said, 2011 doesn’t get enough flack for it, but Lebron was in a lose lose situation. He got everything he could out of his Cleveland rosters.

[@KyleMPrep]

Jay Burton and also, you remember what the Cavaliers looked like before Lebron got there???? The bulls actually had some decent success before Jordan, the Cavs? What have they done before Lebron?

[@FreeAgent797]

This was very decent with the exception of one thing: Mike should've gotten a 5/5 for scoring ability. The man won 10 scoring titles, averaged 30ppg on 50% shooting for his career and averaged 33ppg on 49% shooting in the playoffs. That beyond crazy.

[@krazyatom]

Here are my simple breakdown: MJ Offense 10 MJ Defense 9 MJ Passing ability 5 MJ Leadership 9 MJ Killer instinct 9 Total: 42 LJ Offense 7 LJ Defense 7 LJ Passing ability 8 LJ Leadership 8 LJ Killer instinct 8 Total: 38

[@wavyiann9788]

Sam Choi put lbj offense at 9

[@conduitofthegospeldarrellb9154]

Look, LeBron is a spectacular player. One of the best we've ever seen. TOP 10 without question, but when people try to make the argument that he is top 5 or even say he's better than MJ is were the convo goes into a realm of idealism vs reality. The reality is Jordan is just as well rounded IF NOT a better all-around player as LeBron. Just as athletic. Has far more career accomplishments and has done so in less time than LeBron (so far). There is no argument. Especially not career wise...

[@dannyx7033]

agreed

[@BEDCORN]

What also his hard to compare is the era they played in, back then the tougher you were the more you succeeded. Flopping wasn't a thing back then because they let you play through a lot more. Someone like Lebron as big as he was, wouldn't be as effective as he is today because the players would elbow you in the back and talk mad shit which could for sure intimidate someone like Lebron who was never mentally as tough compared to someone like Kobe or MJ.

[@conduitofthegospeldarrellb9154]

***** Mj WILL be surpassed. It's just a matter of time. Truthfully, Mj is not even the clea cut "goat" you could easily argue Kareem or Russell.

[@BEDCORN]

Darrel Be Theirs an argument for Kareem, but Wilt was a better player than Russell skill wise, he just had more career achievements then Wilt.

[@conduitofthegospeldarrellb9154]

Bedcorn I'd agree. That's why I have Wilt in the GOAT convo too

[@Joseph-ii3lj]

SMH Lebron aint even Top 3 yet let alone the GOAT

[@k2x680]

lol then who's 2 and 3?

[@PaulyDBEAST]

Yet your a random guy on the internet trying to say who's the goat😂

[@Joseph-ii3lj]

paul hatley You're* trying to talk shit and can't even use correct grammar lmao

[@Joseph-ii3lj]

Kj R Magic, and K.A.J

[@k2x680]

+Joseph Oko I agree with k.a.j. but lebron probably better than magic BTW I ain't a lebron fan

[@massdagod]

17ppg in the Finals getting shut down single coverage and averaging 2ppg in the fourth quarter and losing in a series when his team had home court advantage. Jordan never lost a series when his team had home court advantage. 6-0 in the NBA finals. NBA Record 6 Finals MVP (doubling the number of the person in 2nd place). Never losing a series when having Home Court Advantage. (meaning he Never lost a series when expected to win) (No other All time Great can say that; not Russell, Not Shaq, Not Bird, Magic, Jabbar, Wilt, Oscar. No one.) Now look at this: i174.photobucket.com/albums/w119/massdagod/mj/ohhh_zps9da0bf9c.png The 1st image was taken in the middle of the 1990 Eastern Conference Finals... SMH @ those numbers. The 2nd image illustrates his legendary record breaking performance from the 1993 NBA Finals.. SMH @ those numbers; In the NBA Finals mind you. The 3rd image was taken a few weeks after the 1993 NBA Finals from SportsCenter stating that "Not Only is Michael Jordan the Best Ever, but it's not even close"; The image itself illustrates Michael Jordan and the help he had compared to the rest of the All Time Greats and the help they had while winning. His father went missing a week after this was broadcast. He retired before the next season started. SMH. The image that I posted above is to show not only what he did, but HOW he did it. Far and away better than everyone else. Now look at his Playoff Records: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_post-season_records Jordan holds a whopping 42 NBA Playoff Records. To put that in prospective, this is how he measures up to other All Time Players: Number of Playoff Records: Michael Jordan - 42 Bill Russell - 15 Wilt Chamberlain - 13 Kareem Abdul Jabbar - 5 Kobe Bryant - 5 Lebron James - 0 Michael Jordan has more Post-Season Records than Russell, Wilt, Kareem, Kobe and Lebron Combined. Men Lie, Women Lie, Numbers Don't. Now read this: Jordan holds the Highest career PER average in NBA regular season, post season and NBA Finals history. Jordan holds the Highest career Efficiency rating average in NBA regular season, post season and NBA Finals history. Jordan holds the Highest career Gamescore average in NBA regular season, post season and NBA Finals history. Jordan holds the Highest career Winshares average in NBA regular season, post season and NBA Finals history. Jordan holds the Highest MVP shares average in NBA regular season, post season and NBA Finals history. Jordan is the only player to lead the league in Scoring and Win Defensive player of the Year a season. Jordan is the only player to Win a championship, scoring title and steals title in the same season. Jordan is one of 3 players in NBA History to win a NBA scoring championship and NBA Championship in 1 season. George Mikan and Lew Alcindor did it once Each. Jordan did it six times. All six times also leading the playoffs in scoring. Mikan did that once and Alcindor didn't do it at all. Playoff Records: Most points 5,987 by Michael Jordan Highest points per game average (min. 25 games) 33.5 by Michael Jordan (179 games) Most 50-point games 8 by Michael Jordan Most 40-point games 38 by Michael Jordan Most 30-point games 109 by Michael Jordan Only player to score 15+ points in every game (min. 25 games) Michael Jordan (179 games) Only player to record consecutive 50-point games Michael Jordan scored 50 and 55 points in Games 1 and 2 of the 1988 Eastern Conference First Round (Chicago Bulls vs. Cleveland Cavaliers). Most consecutive 45-point games 3 by Michael Jordan (May 9-13, 1990) Most consecutive 20-point games 60 by Michael Jordan (June 2, 1989-May 11, 1993) Most consecutive 15-point games 179 by Michael Jordan. This streak entails every playoff game in Jordan's career. Most consecutive 10-point games 179 by Michael Jordan. This streak entails every playoff game in Jordan's career. Overall Records: Jordan holds the Highest career PPG average in Regular season history. Jordan holds the Highest career PPG average in Post season history. (compared to Wilt Chamberlain who is 29th in PPG in Post season history at 22ppg) Jordan holds the Highest career PPG average in NBA Finals history. Statically speaking, Jordan has the Highest and most impressive Career Statistical Average in regular season, post season and Finals NBA history. This is why I believe its "trolling" if someone says someone other than Jordan is the Greatest Player of All Time.

[@Simouno]

You can't chase a ghost in Chicago, when you've been overshadowed by someone else in Akron...

[@blackmomba7122]

lol MJ is so much more clinch, more crafty, a better team player, and doesn't falter under pressure like Labron, MJ excels under it! Not sure how to take people serious who say they pick Lebron over MJ on a team, they obviously did not live through both of their careers.

[@retsea1]

Not only did Jordan lack a "wining playstyle" early in his career, you can actually see this post-Bulls, as he never returned to the Finals when he was actually responsible for carrying teams.

[@AKATrae]

tbh kyrie better than lebron

[@franklinclinton3207]

i agree

[@omaidolor8929]

Yah both stupid lmaoo...how is a nigga who couldnt even qualify for the nba playoffs before lebrons departure , better than the guy who lead in all categories in the damn finals while having 2 40 pt games not to talk of damn near avg 40 last finals

[@franklinclinton3207]

Oma Idolor look Stats are for Losers

[@franklinclinton3207]

Oma Idolor and were not stupid

[@omaidolor8929]

Franklin Clinton hes a better scorer ...hes not better than him thats just dumb

[@julianorozco4405]

Jordan wasn't a "poor" 3 point shooter. He was a regular one, he wasn't curry but in the finals with the normally 3point line he has 40% and his worst 3p% he tried 0.7 per game. There is no context, there isn't clear which ones where half court shorts or one that you try when the games is over with 2 seconds. When he tried a nice volumen of 3 point attempts he was with 36%-39% that is a good 3 point shoot. He wasn't the best and wasnt Good, he was acceptable, wasn't one of his greatness but also wasn't a flaw.

[@denzilrogers3897]

Jordan made it look so epic and took your heart and soul. man I miss watching him play. Greatness and poetry in motion.

[@bobbyd6097]

I'm no Lebron hater, I think he's great. But there's certain things that will ALWAYS make MJ the GOAT. Lebron has never shown the same heart that MJ had in spades. Lebron literally has a top 10 and top 20 flop list, there's a list! That's something MJ just wouldn't do and that says it all for me. Then on top of that MJ has Lebron in most (not all) other aspects.

[@mypenisisincrediblytinybut6448]

Perfect except lebron isn’t close to Jordan on defense. You forgot to mention Jordan’s dpoy as well. Lebron is a 4 on defense max while Jordan is a 5

[@bjizzle09]

What do you think about Bill Russel? Was he really that great in comparison to today's time?

[@LegendOfWinningNBA]

I think Russel is a great player top 5 all-time, and would be great in any generation

[@weewee203ohSpecz]

Russell is great but in this time I think he wouldn't put up many points cos if he was putting up like 25 PPG then then now he'd put up like no more than 15 maybe like 10 doe. And 25 rebounds will prolly drop to like 15. And I think he average like 8 blocks lol which will prolly drop to like 3 in this gen. He'll still be great but not like back then. He'd prolly average like 15 REB, 15 PPG and 3 BLK. Maybe. Definitely not 11 chips. If he's on warriors then he'd get like 40 peat. Lebron still the GOAT doe.

[@LegendOfWinningNBA]

...25pts??? yea just to let you know Russell never averaged over 20pts his entire career and the amount of blks he avg is completely unknown since the NBA never recorded blocks. Also, atleast in my eyes, Russell isn't GOAT because of the rings, he is GOAT because he defined the Center position

[@weewee203ohSpecz]

Rings don't mean fucking shit just stop with that. Ask me if Russell can guard Lebron or Jordan? Umm? Nope! He can't. Lebron can guard anyone also Jordan cos he's just as athletic and bigger and stronger. Which means Jordan can't guard Lebron. Lebron is a 6'8 Point God or Point forward... umm? FAX? Umm? L?

[@seananthony7494]

Russel gaurded 7'1 Wilt Chamberlain who could bench press 500 pounds and dislocated an opponents shoulder by blocking the opponent's shot... Wilt Chamberlain used to work out with Arnold Schwarzenegger...

[@Azrael24]

I am curious as to the age of some of the commenters on this video. I have watched magic, mj and Lebron. Not from historical numbers but as it was happening. There is NO question that MJ is the goat. Let on will eclipse Jordan's numbers. But that isn't telling you the story. Jordan's numbers came when they mattered most. Clutch in the fourth if needed. Put most teams away by the middle of the third, played in the era of hand checking which makes a HUGE difference. And there is no one I would rather have the ball with at the end of the game. You fans are young. Too young to really remember Jordan. Trust me. Jordan was leagues ahead of Lebron

[@BlackSheepThinking]

I thought this was a fair analysis of a daunting and controversial topic - very hard to compare players of different eras - that being said, a few things I want to highlight. When LBJ went to Miami and they lost to Dallas, LBJ didn't feel like the leader. Dwayne Wade had a ring, it was Wade's team, it would have been hard for LBJ to not defer to someone that had proven playoff experience and accolades. Also, let's look at teammates - Jordan said that Pippen was the best player in the league and had few weaknesses and when Jordan left to play baseball the year his Dad was murdered, Pippen and the Bulls won only a few games less that following season. After years with the Cavs, the team built so little around him, that when he left they were last...dead last. One player can't win championships...and LBJ almost did. You put just ONE player on LBJ's early Cleveland teams and we see a different history. Great video.

[@LegendOfWinningNBA]

thanks for the input. I completely agree with what you said about LBJ teammates. LeBron carrying that Cavs team to the Finals is one of the greatest thing I jave ever seen, but that Dallas series was so disappointing that I can't excuse it. Also I do think if LeBron had a player like Pippen his first few years with the Cavs would've been more successful

[@averyt6521]

+Legend Of Winning lbj ran outta gas now he learned how to cruise in reg season.

[@MegaMjjordan]

+Legend Of Winning bro your cover art is crazy nice, but other than that I watched this video and you earned a subscriber.

[@Julius_Paul]

If a raw unsuspecting Piippen began alongside James, he most likely would have been a scrub or another raw 'potential' player that didn't make it (and we've seen hundreds of those in the past 50 years). So its' not fair to say 'Jordan had Pippen'.... really? he 'had' him, or did the coaching and Jordan 'make' him. Same with McHale and Bird. Would McHale have ever been something without Bird? Winning basketball is about only four things: (1) Star player leadership and the ability to help others around you grow, or at the least the star must give others a sense of confidence and strong family unit team spirit (2) Team chemistry and how players complement each other at both ends of the floor, (3) Coaching staff with high level skills alongside the equally important qualities needed from the previous (1), and (4) Great floor IQ throughout the team (usually with little imbalance) with the full understanding of defensive switches and where to stand/move without the ball on both offense and defense. It's not James fault, or Garnett (didn't know how to be a leader, only knew to pump up his teammates with chestbanging and swearing) or Kobe (didn't understand leadership until after 10 years in the league) for not having the leadership skills required - it's the NBA for allowing young pups with no college to come into the league. I guarantee you had those three gone to college training and survived healthy bodies, they would have been better leaders. When 'proven' all-stars with experience (big time franchise players) are traded to be alongside other big time all-stars, then that is silly and is why the NBA is the most predictable sport by far. Yes Jabbar got lucky that Magic turned out to be great, but he wasn't proven as an the NBA when he joined the first year, he just happened to have sprouted perfectly and quickly... same with Duncan. And Pippen took a few years longer to grow. None of those examples parallel stupid trades of 'proven' players like what Miami did in 06 or Boston in 08 or Miami in '11 (which was laughable, considering they actually took huge pay cuts to stack the team with the best 3 players in the conference in their respective positions LOLOLOL) ..... the NBA is stupid. After Jordan retired, the league has become more of a joke than ever... I only watch it for the sake of watching an old school team Spurs which kept its core players without incredible all-star status and never complain and quit the team or retired after all those heartbreaking playoff losses where they were favored.. instead, they stuck it out for many years well far past winning the first 4 titles, and got rewarded by going to the finals TWO MORE TIMES and winning one of them in the GREATEST THRASHING OF AN INCREDIBLE STAR CALIBRE TEAM (MIAMI) LIKE NO OTHER STAR CALIBRE TEAM OF SIMILAR TO MIAMI'S CALIBRE HAD EVER BEEN DESTROYED BEFORE IN THE FINALS LOSING Y 20+ POOINTS ON THEIR OWN COURT TWICE IN A ROW AND BEING DEMORALIZED TO THE POINT OF CRYING AND BREAKING UP THE TEAM AND QUITTING!! DID SAN ANTONIO QUIT WHEN THEY LOST TO MEMPHIS IN THE FIRST ROUND A FEW YEARS AGO EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE FAVORED TO MAKE THE FINALS? DID THEY GIVE UP WHEN THEY LOST TO THE CLIPPERS (BARELY) IN 2015 BECAUSE SPLITTER WAS PLAYING AT 60% AND PARKER AT 70%, BOTH DUE TO INJURIES (IT'S A WONDER COACH POPS EVEN RISKED PLAYING THEM). DID THEY SAY TO THEMSELVES "WELL, MAYBE PARKERS DAYS ARE DONE, MAYBE THE TEAM OVERALL IS GETTING OLD, MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST PACK IT IN" NO NO NO DID YOU SEE MANU AND TIM RETIRE? NO NO NO.... AND HOW ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER QUESTIONABLE PLAYOFF SERIES THEY LOST FROM 2008 TO NOW? HOW ABOUT LOSING TO OKC AFTER DESTROYING THEM BY OVER 40 POINTS? HOW ABOUT THE LOSS TO MIAMI WHERE THEY HAD MIAMI IN GAME 6 AND IT WAS OVER AND TOOK THE COMBINATION OF SEVERAL FACTORS SUCH AS A MISSED EASY LAYUP BY DUNCAN, A MISSED FREE THROW BY LEONARD AND ONE GREAT SHOT FROM BOTH LEBRON AND ALLEN, ESPECIALLY ALLEN!!! WHERE THAT SHOT WAS THERE CLINCHER TO EVEN SURVIVE THE GAME.... SO JUST GOES TO SHOW YOU THAT THE BIG THREE 'WEREN'T EVEN ENOUGH', THEY NEEDED A SAN ANTONIO FINAL MINUTE MENTAL BREAKDOWN COMBINED WITH A 'FOURTH' ALL-STAR CALIBRE PLAYER ON MIAMI TO HIT THAT SHOT! AS A FAN IT WAS A DEPRESSING MOMENT IN BASKETBALL, BUT THEY MORE THAN MADE UP FOR IT BY CRUSHING AND EMBARRASSING MIAMI IN 2015..... WHEN THOSE GUYS RETIRE THERE IS NO BASKETBALL TEAM WORTH WATCHING THAT IS BUILT LIKE THAT THE OLD FASHIONED WAY.... JUST WHEN YOU THOUGHT GOLDEN STATE WAS POTENTIALLY THAT NEXT TEAM TO FLOURISH WITHOUT BS TRADES, THEY GO AND GET DURANT - FUCKING ABSOLUTE JOKE!!!!! .

[@Aramac12]

+Paul Sokoloff would bird be anything without parish

[@cammy944]

Absolutely brilliant well put together video gave both players a fair shake with honest statistics and clips to back it up. Well done.

[@srkizen5691]

I have very simple test to answer this question. It's a game 7 of the NBA finals and you get time machine by some miracle. So you can get in your team MJ or LeBron from any time of their careers you wish. I dare you to pick LeBron over Michael. I simply can't imagine anyone doing that.

[@jfriday7105]

lebron has a better average in games 7 so yes lebron is the clear answer

[@BluJae93]

if the cavs beat the Warriors with kd and both teams are healthy then I think he'll be considered better than MJ

[@franklinclinton3207]

no he will not be better heck he not even better then Tim Duncan

[@DonkeyKong5479]

KD and Curry will trash LeBron

[@BluJae93]

+Andrew Blackop that's what I'm hoping for

[@DonkeyKong5479]

Troy Rush Same

[@BluJae93]

+Franklin Clinton I'm not saying that it's what I believe,I'm just saying the majority of people will say he's on the same level for had a better career than MJ,and it'll be hard to argue against that

[@chavezjr3]

Lebron is no where near Michael Jordan 😴 just simply because Jordan is the GOAT.

[@graybanz]

fax

[@capi7824]

+Hype Slayer L

[@zylohphone6758]

Were you even around in the 90's or late 80's? I was born in the late 90's so I got to watch the tail end of mj's career. Every kid who never watched mj, because all they know is that mj was amazing, cause the media puts it that way. Also, this generation has never watched mj's STRUGGLES. He could barely make it past the first round without pippen, but Lebron MADE THE FINALS when the second best player on his team was ANDERSON VAREJAO. Lebron does a lot of things better than mj. He's more versatile, he's a better passer, rebounder, blocker, paint presence, etc. MJ just had shooting, iq, and the clutch factor over him. Rings don't mean everything. With that logic bill russell is the greatest of all time. I'm pretty sure everyone saying MJ is better is just young, or a lebron hater

[@tgc1635]

+Kevin Durant fuck off

[@chavezjr3]

obviously i was around. why else would I make such a comment. This dude went flawless in the finals. Lebron's record in the final is 3-7 lmao

[@Marlowe10100]

On top of all those points in the video, Jordan was much more fun to watch and became iconic, surpassing the basketball universe and gaining a consensus international acclaim. I'm from Mexico, and people that don't really watch basketball knows and recognize Jordan, while they struggle to tell who Lebron is, even with the major media of nowadays.

[@FranklinClintonGrandTheftAutoV]

Jordan will shit on Lebron the rings can show that

[@TheIverson1990]

I agree but the ring thing becomes rhetoric. Just do the eye examine. Mj is clearly the better basketball player.

[@savagegames8703]

+TheIverson1990 yes MJ is im 34 so I've watched both.

[@jdoggem1]

LMAO... JORDAN WOULDN'T BE JORDAN IF SHAQ, KOBE, LEBRON, AND IVERSON WAS AROUND IN THE EARLY 90's...

[@FranklinClintonGrandTheftAutoV]

yet he would be better then lebron either way

[@jdoggem1]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA... REAL LIFE, NOT THE VIDEO GAME THOUGH

[@dakizm]

I'd rather have Kobe than LeBron lol

[@brianthekillabro5534]

Kobe is over rated

[@tomasdan6361]

I agree that Kobe is overrated, you could even argue he's barely top 10.

[@dakizm]

Kobe needs a center to win championships, LeBron needs an entire roster 😂😂 5 rings beats 3 maybe LeBron can prove me wrong

[@franklinclinton3207]

Lebron is not even better then Tim Duncan

[@Mostillist]

+DaKK kobe needs prime shaq prime odom dfish horry prime bynum prime gasol and the best coach of all time to get a ring you where saying

[@XsyIsTaken]

Why I would choose Jordan -In MJ's time there was a lot like I mean alot of great opponents example:Karl Malone,John Stockton,Hakeem Olajuwon,Dikembe Mutombo,Alonzo Mourning,Dennis Rodman(Pistons) and etc(Btw im not sure with the worm/dennis rodman) -Defense was better at that time - when Jordan was turning old he still averaged good Im out of reasons Why I would choose Lebron -A Good Passer and finisher -Versatile -A good blocker Im out of reasons But I choose Jordan But ANTHONY DAVIS will always be a better choice than both KAT and Boogie just because of his versatility,speed,defense, and decent offense(Srry guys haha)

[@bobbycroom7796]

Either way you choose (and I'm not gonna give my opinion in who's better....I'll keep that to myself), this is an excellent analogy of the two players. Nice work and great video bro.

[@AnMLegit]

people who saying mj probably never watched him play and just say he's the best cuz every one else does legoat James > MJ Aka no pippen no rings

[@KirbyWill]

No Kyrie, wade, bosh= no rings

[@chrism-br8hh]

+Will Kirby Did he have a pippen no and he was 31 being down 3-1 to record wise the best team of all time. DO YOU GUYS UNDERATAND THAT?!?!?

[@chrism-br8hh]

they say pippen is a top 30 player of all time

[@chrism-br8hh]

25 my bad and LeBron James played THE 2ND BEST 3 POINT SHOOTER OF ALL TIME

[@chrism-br8hh]

+Epic Snappy 1 being Ray Allen smh

[@benwebb3803]

Great videos man, keep up the great work.

[@aprespunk]

Yeah, last night I compared all the stats of the most complete scorers in the post-Wilt era (before 73 they didn't record steals and blocks), and MJ came on top by a sliver, with Lebron and Bird tied for 2nd, Abdul-Jabaar 4th, and Magic 5th.

[@jackstirling808]

The 6-0 finals thing is total bullshit- he was just losing before the finals.

[@claudiomartinez3175]

im a lebron fan and this is my top 5 of alltime. 1:Mj 2:Lebron 3:Kobe 4:magic 5:Bird

[@claudiomartinez3175]

Lebron will retire as greatest of alltime

[@kingwani8248]

Lebron at 2 I'm a bron fan too but not yet

[@earlalcorn-clayborne467]

mj better than lebron? how???? smh confused an I grew up watching mj Play. only thing Jordan got over lebron is he played in an earlier league

[@NewEarthSon]

Na kid do your research and stop parroting espn talking heads. Jordan and Kareem are both 1 and 2

[@lavlne]

Claudio Martinez He just won't...

[@shanksdalegend2507]

Michael Jordan = GOD LeBron James = Human Dont compare human beings to '' HIS AIRNESS ''

[@franklinclinton3207]

heck Lebron is not better then Tim Duncan

[@alstonmeade6455]

I'd say Lebron=superhuman. Jordan=basketball machine. The machine is better.

[@Dabbler105]

I totally agree with your conclusion. Michael Jordan is still #1, and it absolutely comes down to 2011 Finals. If the Heat won that one, then we're currently looking at a tie. The crazy thing is, that Lebron's performance against the Warriors, which was the greatest ever seen by any player ever, made 2011 a non-issue when comparing him to every other player besides Russell and Jordan. But Jordan especially is so great that 2011 still counts with him. Lebron will need to win one more ring against a stacked Warriors team to tie Russell, and 2-3 rings just to tie Jordan. The thing with Jordan is, that he basically won 6 rings in a row with a 1.5 year break in between. Lebron is probably never coming close to matching that feat, so he'll have to at least match Jordan in total rings.

[@BabyMamaMaker]

My top 10 NBA Players of all Time: 1. Michael Jordan 2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 3. Bill Russell 4. Magic Johnson 5. Wilts Chamberlain 6. Kobe Bryant 7. Tim Duncan 8. Shaquille O'Neal 9. Larry Bird 10. Hakeem Olajuwon

[@csbaca1]

LeBron is a power player, Jordan is a finesse player. Both fantastic ball players. It's like arguing over do I like oxygen or water. Both necessary to the NBA and both fun as hell to watch play the game...period.

[@sunshot9757]

I hate when people talk about being "perfect in the finals". Especially when someone else has gone to more finals. That just means in other years, the player thats "perfect in the finals" couldnt even make it to the finals in other years.

[@thecrossspeaks]

One intangible that is not always considered is the ERA and the RULES in which these players played. The era and rules where MJ played was, in my opinion, the toughest and most challenging. As you can see where MJ was being man handled by the Bad Boy Pistons, it is apparent that today's rules are way, way softer. In MJ's era, there were dozens of Hall of famers that were playing the game. You can't discredit them or downplay them because they were Dr.J, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Stockton, Malone and a host of others. If THOSE guys played today with those soft rules, they would dominate the game like hell. Just imagine Hakeem, Jabar and Parish playing the court, it would be a nightmare. LBJ is great in his own respect and I believe he would surpass MJ's accolades if he would press himself for it but if LBJ would have played in MJ's era and rules, I don't think he would be that hot. I'm thinking he would be like a Shawn Kemp or a Penny Hardaway. These are just my opinion of course but it's worth thinking over when discussing MJ and LBJ.

[@gofish0721]

Questionable analysis. He cites LBJ as deferring to Wade too much. Mavs double teamed up high continually and "deferred" to a more open future HoFer and that's a fault? Sounds like someone in the flow of the game and uses some common sense. Maybe that's why LBJ averaged more assists than MJ. Too many stupid other reasons he uses to come up with his ratings in each category. I think he had a final number/outcome in mind and then tries to seem systematic in getting to it. Never saw a young MJ take a totally mediocre team to the finals like LBJ in 3rd or 4th year with the woeful Cavs. Someone pointed out that the year following when he left the Cavs they won less than 20 games while after MJ stepped out twice, the Bulls made it into the top half of the east twice and had a good playoff run. LBJ's last finals of leading all players in 5 major categories (ppg, apg, rpg, stls, and blks) is a performance beyond any that MJ had. Could MJ make that block in game 7? Freakishly great. Where was MJ at 18 when LBJ was beginning to dominate the NBA? That speaks volumes to his athleticism that is probably beyond anything ever in the NBA. I guess that bottom line each person would have to answer to decide who is greater is if you were a GM and could draft either player, who would you take? That is personal choice and non-scientific in it's answer. This guy tries unsuccessfully to answer it that way tho...

[@odompiano]

Great video man, very well put together! Do you have any ideas for players to compare if you decide to make this a series? I think Kobe and Duncan could be interesting since it seems to be a common discussion. If you wanna get real tho, you should do Hasheem Thabeet vs Sim Bhullar 👌

[@eddyvlogs6294]

You are awesome one of your best vids keep up the good vid LOW!!!

[@maverickmilesnehemiahakath7029]

Fantastic Video! KEEP UP THE GREAT EDITING AND PRODUCTION VALUE WORK!!!

[@Kingstyles05]

I don't know anyone who acts like Jordan was perfect but I'll let you go along with that narrative. The fact is this is not as close as you made it seem. Just like James, Jordan had seasons where he'd hit the three consistently and he did set a finals record before. Also, just because people say James can guard those positions, doesn't mean he does it effectively or consistently because he doesn't. Jordan guarded 1through 3 consistently and effectively his whole career. He got crossed by Iverson who is the quickest player in league history when he was considered old. The point is that at that age he was guarding the quickest player the league has ever seen which proves his defensive versatility. Jordan wins by a much greater gap than you gave him.

[@greenslim101]

Where do you get your thumbnail characters they are very cool

[@TheGetRight]

After the Bulls offense found their way around the Pistons D, Jordan didn't really even have a weakness besides a consistent 3 point shot.

[@royrob247]

Bruh. Your intro was super professional 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾

[@dalcowboys1977]

LeBron being the better athlete enables him to sometimes call a bad play and still score. Jordan's higher basketball IQ, does not need to rely on physical abilities because he seldom makes bad decisions. That plus Jordan's superior defense makes him a better basketball player in my book.

[@CetricMC]

This should be a segment on ESPN

[@cdsher8931]

Jesus Christ boy a round of applause with a standing ovation u are the best sport analyst ever in my life look if I continue like this by going into other sport I won't be surprised with u hitting a million subs great job

[@savagegames8703]

it cracks me up so much these younger ones wanting James to be the Goat so bad. But I don't see him winning anymore anytime soon, not if the Warriors play as a super team.

[@scottiekickz1904]

You're videos are cool and logical. So I subscribed and put my bros on to your channel.

[@Logcal24]

"By far the best player that has entered the league in 20 years..." Forgetting about kobe?...

[@jonathanblaze1648]

1. Michael Jordan2. Magic Johnson3. Wilt Chamberlain4. Oscar Robertson5. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar6. Bill Russell7. Shaquille O'Neal8. Kobe Bryant9. LeBron James10. Larry Bird

[@tshiamooriel5113]

great video, very balanced... Just one thing...us older fans don't think Michael is flawless. But I think the distance between Michael and players of his error, surpasses the distance between LeBron and the players in his error. You'll hear Shaq saying, Michael was "God like on the court"... LeBron is also great.

[@KiraSilversoul]

Great vid and agreed on all points (except on the Mavs Finals deferment, LJ was outside shooting like crap while Mavs shut down the driving lanes and he let it get into his head). However I approach this question a bit differently; if you had to choose between MJ and LJ for your "perfect team with players from any era" hypothetical, which would you choose? For me it's LJ 100%. Being great is great. Making everyone around you better than they are is really special, and that's a really rare quality that MJ had to some extent but it just wasn't even close to LJ's level.

[@owengarvey341]

Good vid Legend of Winning!!! You earned yourself a sub

[@xXViiCTiiMiizzEDxX]

Can you make your own opinion of top 10 based on stats cuz you honestly have the best stat references

[@leighsmith2861]

mj is way better

[@its_nate9603]

We talk about Lebron vs Jordan, but a bigger debate is Scalabrine vs Jordan

[@DaneroHoops]

The thing I hate about debating sports is that, there's always someone praising Lebron saying he's the Greatest of all time. Then there's people saying he's not even top 5. Regardless of what you think about Michael, Lebron, Kobe or Magic. They are all in the top 5. It doesn't matter who's where, just as long as they are all in the top 5. Shut up about who's better, just enjoy the sport.

[@dustinf49]

I grew up watching Jordan and it's not close. The only people saying LeBron are people that never saw MJ play.

[@NessLeeAtl]

i agree with everything except for 5 on Jordan's athleticism.

[@weynnerguillen9533]

Even how many times I take a look on the career averages , the stats where LeBron was supposed to have an advantage on MJ , those stats weren't even far their quite close.

[@thepisceanlion4171]

Legend Of Winning I disagree with a lot of the things you said in the video, but I'm going to click 'like' on it anyway because I can't help but respect the work you obviously put into it. But to give an example of something I disagree with is Jordan's weakness as a long range jump shooter. It's true that for the first half his time with the bulls he was below average from behind the line at best. But he started to practice it in the later part of his time with the bulls because his athleticism began to decline and he became a solid long range shooter. LeBron on the other hand has practiced his long range game for practically his whole career and he's maintained a consistently inconsistent shot from outside. James just doesn't have an ideal shooting form. But aside that, as of right now it's the only weakness he has left to work on in my opinion.

[@jayscribe7547]

Great analysis! My only critique is that MJ wasnt as bad a three pointer shooter as people think. Consider his 6 three pointers in a half against Portland in the Finals. Secondly. Lebron's post game is still a work in progress. Otherwise good stuff.

[@mike6929]

great take on a wonderfuly debatable concept with no bias. next tell us the stats for the hulk vs venom the real venom you know what I'm talking about..

[@gnicevids]

what people don't realize is when Jordan was losing in the playoff, each year the bulls had time and money to built a championship team. they keep adding good players to help Jordan and the bulls. LeBron made it with lack luster players as then play great against great teams In the West. so of course he lost in the finals. those teams were not yet development as championship teams. even Miami was not a championship team

[@UTxMansonKnowz]

One thing you ignored was degree of difficulty

[@klip8726]

This should have been tied because MJ should have gotten a 4 instead of 4.5 on rebounding

[@CJTV9]

mj

[@SLIDESPOT]

I have and always will say Jordan is one of the best athletes I have watched and that guy played every single minute, every single quarter and every single game to win. He was also such a cultural icon, a dick? probably but he was huge....damn look how long his shoe legacy has lasted.

[@LechokingSince]

the thing is that guys like this know about all the stats but werent even born when mj was playing greatness isnt just stats its how they affect the game watching mj was amazing this man was doing things we never seen before he was the NBA that why he is the GOAT

[@johnnypangilinan4014]

Lebron James deserved to be mention, but come short in terms of comparison

[@shamgod815]

I've been watching your channel all morning, great content, and I like the points you make. You're very unbiased, and I can respect it. I'll be a causal viewer from now on

[@LegendOfWinningNBA]

Sham Jenkins Thanks 👍👍

[@jordangable2100]

Yo Low you should have way more subs and you are definitely one of my favorite KZbinrs

[@weewee203ohSpecz]

I love the part where he says greatness might change or whatever and Lebron gets an and one and the beat also drops...

[@ratedrpinto418]

I think if Jordan had wade and bosh he would’ve won 10 rings. The things that people are not looking at is u can ask Jordan to play like Lebron with all those shooters surrounding him, but u cant ask Lebron to do the same in a triangular system as Jordan. Jordan was a more polished player than Lebron and he’ll be able to do more in a Lebron system and probably be even more dominant because of his postup abilities.

[@GhostLightning195]

I'd like to see one for Kobe vs. Magic for who's the greatest Laker of all time, since they both claim the other is the greatest Laker.

[@blitzandgoo]

The only way Lebron can redeem his finals record and erase that 2011 performance is if he goes to the finals against the warriors this up coming season win again. This is what he needs to be considered the G.O.A.T. to me and im sure many others. Even then it would be a very close comparison though.

[@keegan6446]

AMAZING VIDEO!! I watched the whole thing and I loved and it is all true. Make more on this series!!!

[@Chr1ShawnKPD]

As a huge LeBron fan, I 100% agree with this video. I do think MJ is still the GOAT, however LeBron is in that same class with him, top 2. And I get irritated with ppl who refuse to give LeBron that, LeBron is up there with MJ, he isn't better, but dammit he's in that stratosphere.

[@zeebo2353]

90% of People saying Jordan>Lebron never even watched Jordan play so they only seen highlights tbh

[@koytoys]

If he's not the most perfect scorer this game has ever seen, who is?! If anyone deserves a 5 in scoring, it's MJ!

[@cobbie-_-1710]

Your videos are amazing my favorite youtuber

[@EPICYELLOWHORSE]

Looking at this rationally we have to understand the way the NBA has changed. I have to look at the toughness of the league during Jordan's prime compared to the toughness now. With that being said, the league is soft now compared to the days that Dennis Rodman and the Pistons showed up on the court for an all out BRAWL. Back in those days Jordan competed against guys that would rather DIE than loose. Lebron is tough, and has had no major injuries but had he came up in Jordans era I highly doubt he could have walked away without a CONCUSSION.

[@jackhanson5315]

My thing about sports is you can't comapre players from different eras. You can't compare, Messi and Pele, Crosby and Gretzky, Montana and Brady. Sure you can but you can never come to a conclusion. LeBron plays in an era without hand checks. MJ played in an era of man only defence. MJ and LeBron are the goats of their own era.

[@domeniciadevaio3100]

Jordan is also better because of his awards and plus his career was so successful in a short career

[@isaacperry8195]

LEBRON GETS 5/5 ON DEFENSE? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. LeBron has really been bad at defense for 5-6 years right now and 2-3 years when this video came out. Come on.

[@smilyle]

We all know that Lebron James is a greater talent than even Michael Jordan. We just don't want to let him think he is better because he is a greater talent, so we reduce the argument to statistics, clutch gene, and all that garbage. Lebron is a better overall player than Michael Jordan, period. I compare them by age rather than years in the league...And at a comparable age up to 31, Lebron is better than Jordan was in every comparable way every for every year of age up to this point in terms of total statistics. I don't buy the 6 for 6 argument. Not making championships certain years so that it preserves your undefeated record in championship series is not better for your legacy than getting to more champions and losing more because you increase the likelihood of losing the more you go to. If Lebron plays is 10 Championships and wins six with six MVPs which is highly possible if he plays until he is 38 or so, then he is a greater than Jordan because he got to more championships. Getting to championships counts for something over not getting to championships even if you are undefeated in the championships you get to. The more championships you get to and how fast your got to them given your relative age means more in my eyes. At 31 lebron has been to 4 more championships than Michael did at 31, and that means his career trajectory has the chance to be greater than Michael's when it is all said and done. Lebron has hit tons of clutch shots, and statistically has been shown to be very clutch in the last 3 minutes of a game or so. People act like Michael never missed clutch shots. And Michael gets too much credit as if he did it by himself. Scottie Pippen deserves equal credit for ALL of the championships the Bulls won. Michael knows it and all of the Bulls teammates on those teams know it and would say it behind close doors. And the overall talent level in the league is better than when Jordan played. We all know it. The leauge was more physical because of rules not because guys now a days are soft. But guys now are bigger, faster, and stronger and better athletes from top to bottom. That is proven. And I don't feel bad in saying it because everyone now adays works harder and longer than guys did back then. Everyone works out all year long, everyone lifts, and everyone follows a diet. When Jordan played, that simply wasn't the case and the eyeball test shows it. The best players now adays aren't better than the best players from the past, but the average player is. This is simply a more competitive era in terms of talent level of guys playing where everyone who plays is an elite athlete. In Jordan's time not everyone was an elite athlete. Jordan would not go 6 fo 6 in this era. He knows it, and everyone who plays now adays knows it.