Michael Knowles SCHOOLS Student On Columbus

Michael Knowles lays down the facts about Christopher Columbus.

[@prickleswithpineapples2362]

All races have been slaves in history

[@pennylan6466]

True, though not all complain endlessly.

[@myaccount2825]

Exactly!!

[@BlueSmokie]

Not all were enslaved for their skin color

[@prickleswithpineapples2362]

@@BlueSmokie sorry religion .. or race period yes

[@DanShin2105]

africans were sold as slaves by their own fellow Africans and thats not because of their color obviously

[@tomd2021]

You cannot judge people who lived 5 centuries ago by the standards of today. They lived in an entirely different world.

[@TheChrisk2011]

It’s so ridiculous😂 I’m sick of it

[@reginaeiland3604]

But people are still living today off the fruits of slave labor. Many a trust fund is stained with the blood of slaves!! Acres & acres of land are saturated with the blood of slaves!

[@amazin7006]

Yes you can. I just did, what are you gonna do about it?

[@AtlasofSol]

@@amazin7006 not take your opinion seriously as well as call you a wuss.

[@lauravivo6144]

You said it perfect

[@ginaperry2599]

This is one example of why True history needs to be top of the list of essential curriculum in schools and colleges! 🇺🇸🇮🇱📖🙏✝️

[@osmondportifoy6332]

Daddy must be so proud of his little girl in college.

[@MANAKNAK671]

😂😂😂

[@Piromysl359]

I love how they call themselves "progressives", yet still desperately cling to the past.

[@randygonzalez1375]

So we should leave Columbus in the past n not celebrate him also

[@PGLAMB1978]

they cling to the past and yet don't understand it at all. As if every civilization wasn't built on the back of slaves since the beginning of civilization.

[@kodyzhager1456]

Regressives

[@tomster7574]

@@randygonzalez1375 we dont celebrate him for any other reason than for the land he brought us all to. and it was also not him who decided how society at that time was to be either, was it? no it wasnt. if so, that it was, you are also solely to blame for the entirety of all problems of modern day society as well. but you are not. so neither is he.

[@disc314]

big government people are regressive, we're going backwards now.

[@pennylan6466]

Kid: The past 😩😩😩😩 The world: Still enslaving people

[@plankark]

Islam : still condones slavery, especially sex slavery.

[@paulnewkirk7351]

Yes, it is sad that here in the U.S. we are allowing the cartels to profit from human smuggling and the sex trade. Lives are being destroyed and those who fight against it are ridiculed.

[@jasonmarcum9964]

religion: enslaving the minds of humanity for over 2000 years. oh and it's still doing it.

[@CAPTINjacksparrow]

Exactly!!

[@Pickles_McDickles]

Me : haha

[@KiraAmerica09]

Let him finish, he said, "You stand on the shoulders of Giants and believe you are flying" GOOD Day Sir

[@Jake-bt3fc]

Friendly reminder that 49.6 million people live in modern slavery _right now as we speak_ and they probably need our attention more than the sins of our dead ancestors.

[@jackiewhite2041]

Absolutely 🙏❤️🗡️

[@amazin7006]

Bullshit number lol

[@8_x_9.]

6 Billion + people are in slavery.!!! Think it over carefully.

[@janet1744]

I can't agree until you state where and what kind of slaves you speak about.

[@angelosantos9848]

Ok now that's what we call guilt diversion! Act like it never happened and we can go on guilt free and act as if we are the true Christian believers, the sparkle of the worlds eye. Not

[@Faust_YT]

Kids nowadays are being taught what to think instead of how to think.

[@Billybob10101]

True, but on issues like these that goes for both the ones who agree and the ones who disagree

[@tinafrompasadena3192]

Bingo!!!!!

[@prestonscott6543]

TikTok got us boys we’re doomed

[@jennifermannfitness]

Well said.

[@saranorris4914]

Nailed it!

[@iwoulddieforsomeanniechuns7996]

If someone judges historical figures by modern ethics, they will constantly be disappointed

[@biggles8500]

It's called presentism. I disagree with this line of argument that the student made. But I do applaud him for using a primary source. He should have made the case about how even the Spanish monarchy had to recall Columbus because he was an absolutely idiot as a governor which led to a virtual genocide because of his 'gold quotas'. Look it up. It's pretty awful from standards then and now. That's the line of argument that morons like Knowles can't defend (mostly because the dude is a political instigator and not an actual historian).

[@rso1411]

@@biggles8500 The fact that you believe Michael Knowles is a "Moron" shows the extreme bias you speak from, or you use words out of anger instead of an intelligent debate.

[@biggles8500]

@@rso1411 I don't like political commentators. And if the man was good at debate, he would have mentioned the word "presentism" since that was the boy's flaw. Instead, he ran it up to some theme of 'we are where we are because of everything in the past' argument which is weak and lazy. And I used that word because I meant it. Just about everyone I've met that armchairs history is a moron. I actually have an advanced degree for the subject. Just as you don't go to your buddy who reads WebMD for a spinal surgery, I don't go to political commentators for history. I go to historians or the actual source material. The boy who he "destroyed" was at least using source material. I can respect that even though he fell into a presentism argument. Knowles gets paid 10-15k for these arrangement. And people on here hyping him up only puts money in his pockets. I'd rather people go get a real history book.

[@sharifmontague_music]

Sure but Columbus committed mass genocide and cruelty to other human beings (in Cuba and the Caribbean). Someone like George Washington, who also owned slaves, did not lead genocidal campaigns to the scale that Columbus did. He held slaves, but that was normal for people in his caste at the time, so we forgive that to a point when focusing on some of his political ideas. Columbus had few political ideas but for religion and the brutal subjugation of those who he thought god deemed inferior. there's a definite difference.

[@chikhaouinadhir788]

then u dnt know Islam

[@stuuuporman]

Kid in green: What happens when u only know what you know, but not the entire story...and ,do not want to know it.

[@beefsupreme4671]

The funny thing is that people don’t think they are slaves right now.

[@FieryJuniper]

I'm so appalled with my child coming to me and saying her home is "racist". Public school is an awful thing.

[@d4652]

I would have simply explained to her that while no your home is not whoever taught you that is

[@xinpingdonohoe3978]

What is her home?

[@xscummx9130]

So you are racist?

[@dutchboyish]

Read the 10th plank in the Communist Manifesto and tell me where our school problems come from!!!

[@kathrynmorgan9049]

Pull her out if you can. CRT has been mandated by the head of School board in DC to be taught in every public and some private schools. Teaching little black children that they are victims because of the color of their skin and teaching little white children that they are born bad and evil and are the oppressors of other children of color.....these things are INHERENTLY EVIL. Anyone that supports indoctrination of a child's mind and forcing them into an emotional turmoil with lies is a RACIST THEMSELVES. CRT is a racist teaching tool of lies implemented by group of racists. Ibrahim X, BLM, ANTIFA etAl...

[@hellotrump2024]

We gotta really start teaching history to these young people......not erase it.

[@hoosier_turtles_and_tortoises]

Have you looked into this? For real? Columbus was reprimanded by the Spanish crown and forced to return to Spain due to how bad he was treating the slaves. He was a horrible evil man. These weren’t small moral concessions as Knowles put it, these were horrific crimes against humanity type shit. He’s whitewashing the reality or he simply doesn’t know the whole story. Many people don’t know the full story of Columbus bc like most it isn’t something I remember learning as a kid. But there is plenty of legit articles on the topic if you’d like to look into it.

[@muchidromedary.7368]

Yeah, the actual history. Don’t leave out the parts where Columbus murdered natives when they wouldn’t bring him back enough gold.

[@ericjames4762]

​@@muchidromedary.7368 You know what year it was at that time right? Women would be burned at the stake for being witches. African slave lords were making huge fortunes selling their own people. I could go on and on and on but i dont think i need too. Natives are still getting shit on in modern times in Brazil. Slaves are still present in most of the world outside of Europe and N. America. People like you need to stop getting off on saying that some people did terrible things in the past when a lot of the atrocities you speak of, which happened hundreds of years ago, are still occurring from different groups of people in the present. Unfortunately your biased teachers, professors, and peers have warped your views, likely beyond repair, to hate N. America and Europe because the bad parts of their histories outweigh the good parts apparently.

[@ericjames4762]

Starts with massive teacher reforms. At least in Canada they're all unionized and act like a hive mind. The youths maleable minds are being distorted by irresponsible adults and their biased views.

[@jjohnsengraciesmom]

teach, and it's ugly. when I was in school.learning about these things, I would feel ill. We didn't even discuss this that much to be grateful? I don't know.

[@jerejoy5196]

You left out the last and best part “you are standing on the shoulders of giants, and you think you are flying. But you’re not.”

[@OG-ColorfulAbyss.]

I stand on the shoulders of maggots that think they're giants.

[@GamerGateVeteran]

Imagine being so silly that you get called "sophomoric" lol

[@brianafc]

Somehow we'll be made to apologise for something we weren't responsible for never mind being born generations later

[@thisismyname1701]

I have no idea whats going on here but id say hitler made a big historical impact and hes not exactly praised so Coloumbus shouldnt either yk acknowledged, yes.

[@hummingbird_saltalamakia]

​@@thisismyname1701 Hitler maliciously sought to murder millions of Jews. They're hardly similar Columbus wasn't personally responsible for natives being slaughtered. Who initially broke the treaty? Research that one. Hitler went out of his way to make sure as many jews as possible were killed. He sacrificed the war effort to ensure more jews died. Misguided attempt to rationalize

[@hummingbird_saltalamakia]

​@@thisismyname1701 Hitler shouldn't be praised, his impact was nothing positive at all. Columbus essentially paved the way for America to exist today. Every American has far more privilege than they believe. Opportunity exists that otherwise wouldn't. If you live in America, you reap the benefits of this privilege, regardless of skin color in this day and age.

[@hummingbird_saltalamakia]

​@@thisismyname1701 never mind the fact that, every nation in existence wiped out the people who were there before them to establish their nation. America actually left survivors, which typically didn't happen elsewhere. If they eradicated everyone, no one would even know what happened. History is always written by the victors. Thankfully, native people were left alive. Columbus wasn't setting out to commit mass genocide, Hitler did.

[@thisismyname1701]

@@hummingbird_saltalamakia youre tripping if you think columbus was like morally a good person lmao. Sure hes not as bad as hitler hence the reason for the analogy however the fact they can even be compared speaks volumes. Granted you are right he probably didnt plan on genocide as they were perfect for taking advatge of which he did, mercilessly. As did his crew. But hey it really was a different world back then, kill or be killed was a lot more prevlant back then, and ya know its not all black and white for sure, but columbus is bad 100%

[@anng.4542]

The kid must have forgotten about William Wilburforce. And those parts of the Constitution that sought to weaken slavery as a fixture of American society, leading to its abolition.

[@romelleabdulaleem283]

@Ann G.- Please tell me what parts of the Constitution sought to weaken slavery as a fixture of American society. I'm not being facetious, I really want to know. Thank you.

[@lukefraney3026]

@@romelleabdulaleem283 doesn’t matter people say shit if that stuff never happened we wouldn’t be where we are today to put it simply as bad as it was.

[@romelleabdulaleem283]

About William Wilberforce, You can't forget what you never learned.

[@romelleabdulaleem283]

@@lukefraney3026 I accept that, but if there are specifics in the Constitution, I would like to know.

[@lukefraney3026]

@@romelleabdulaleem283 ah yeah I have no idea and don’t know it’s actually there

[@SD-hr9is]

I think what makes our country great is we even look and critique past events even if those were deemed great at the time. There’s a reason they say never meet your heroes. You’ll be disappointed by how human they really are

[@FlyingFoxDK1]

Vikings be like "Vinland!" way before Columbus.

[@tmayorca8770]

And they traveled across the Atlantic Ocean navigating by the stars in two 40 foot long wooden boats and another boat 59 feet long 530 years ago. That's an accomplishment

[@jamespenny9482]

Yup!

[@angrytedtalks]

The residents of Fiji, Bora Bora, Tonga, Hawaii and Easter Island were far more impressive feats and earlier.

[@randygonzalez1375]

They accomplished to wipe out humans as well n were still celebrating a mass murderer

[@tmayorca8770]

@@angrytedtalks Yes, just as or more impressive and in smaller boats however the North Atlantic is no cup of tea. I've been on both waters at sea for years and it's not as rough as the North Pacific, both Capes, and South China Sea. There are monuments to the Pacific Islanders too and deservedly so.

[@angrytedtalks]

@@randygonzalez1375 Said the Latino descendant of the Spanish settlers.

[@WhySoBlessed]

That kid found a quote online & tried to disassemble a walking library

[@biggles8500]

The quote is a vetted primary source. Knowles is an idiot and talking about something he knows nothing about. There's really no argument in academia about Columbus being a jack-a**. Even the Spanish crown thought so because they (another primary source) recalled the guy and he lived in political shame the rest of his years because of the garbage he pulled in the New World.

[@C0ttageChees]

"Walking library". I like that lol

[@C0ttageChees]

@@nicosan8999 Are you referring to the Crusades?

[@senorpapasfritasconqueso]

Knowles didn't offer any primary sources at all. All he "argued", if that's what you want to call it, is that we should be glad our ancestors did slavery "cuz that's how it is and look at us now"

[@rowlanddavid1576]

​@@C0ttageChees The stardust crusaders!¡!!!

[@kz5058]

The kid is having a hard time understanding that what is considered normal for him in this time is not what was considered normal in other time periods. You can't judge one time period with the standards of another.

[@gooddaysunshine7025]

Gratitude is nonexistant

[@carolinecutler9080]

As humans we are constantly evolving. Blaming our ancestors because they didn’t live up to our standards centuries ago is not realistic.

[@usucdik]

Murdering anyone and everyone is never really a moving standard.

[@davec8730]

can i have a claim form for the roman invasion of britain?

[@MinhNguyen-nl8zz]

@@davec8730 Only if you can prove you or your direct ancestors are in Britain before or during the Romain occupation. If you are Norman, Saxon or Goth you have a lot to answer for. What did happen to the Pic by the way. Lovely people.

[@davec8730]

@@MinhNguyen-nl8zz breeding edited them out a tad, bit like neanderthalls. i'm a celt btw and it's way past the time for the normans, anglo saxons, ad co. effed off back to germany.

[@Griot.7294]

@@davec8730 Did the Roman Invasion of England enslaved and exterminated 90% of the Briton population?

[@m.ramos93]

Every single country had a history. Those dark moments are the reason we live in better times.

[@rubewaddell1704]

"The past is a foreign country. They do things differently there." L. P. Hartley.

[@nimrath]

omg. The aboslute hubris of whoever that guy is, is mind boggeling. Do Americans really have this inflated oppinion about their own country, or are they just spouting all those insane and false adjectives regardless?

[@christianthomaslvrrr]

ikr i like my country right but like even i had to pause to check if he was for real

[@johnpaton621]

He is called Knowless

[@shirleycallorina8367]

That kid needs to study history and understand it. You can't debate to people who just read a little bit and think they can debate anybody.

[@joycegibbs5267]

indocrination. Told what to think, not how.

[@biggles8500]

Shirley, I have an advanced degree in history. While I disagree with him trying to advocate for presentism (look it up), Columbus was a d*ck. Look up the his recall from the Spanish crown from his position of Governor. This is after masses starved because of his terrible 'gold quota' policies and other debacles. Just because Columbus was one of literally trillions+ of factors that led us to today doesn't mean we should hero worship him. Under Knowles logic, we should all kiss some swastikas', raise Hitler statues, and make a day for the Nazi's for the incredible medical advances we have today thanks to their torture, mutilation, and execution of the mentally ill. Knowles is a political commentator. I rip into Michael Moore the same way. These people live on instigating and are pathetic.

[@triplesharigan]

fun thing the speaker has to read up on history he's soo wrong on multiple things and don't get me started.

[@eidodk]

Columbus discovered Bahamas, not America. The US celebrating columbus day is ridiculous. The US is the most oppressive, least just and least charitable country of all of the western civilisations.

[@ytchannel1571]

My problem is when people are educated they still refuse to accept the facts. It’s OK to be ignorant but once you’re educated, why are you still forcing a lie

[@billydelacey]

I know, right? It reminds me of every religious person on the planet.

[@terryhiggins5077]

​@@billydelaceyIt's only a theory but here's a reason for that. Most academics today are not particularly religious. And I think that humans are wired to believe in something greater for whatever reason, without an organized religion of some sort, people tend to find something to fill the gap in other ways. Your likely seeing this in the cult like behavior you've described.

[@smellme6313]

@billydelacey without God, there is no morality. And if your counter is, “I don’t need God to tell me what’s right and wrong, I have society, and reason to tell me what that is”, then hitler was right per your thinking. Why would you have any reason to do good? Just because you think so? Why? Atheism breeds dogma, narcissism and immorality by nature.

[@hughalton6512]

That supposed "educated person" understood maybe 12% of what was said. LOL🤪

[@gabbyhayes1568]

That kid got more of an education in 30 seconds than he’s received his entire time in college. Unfortunately, it probably went right over his head.

[@SusieQ3]

or straight through it ➡️👂➡️👂➡️

[@jrooksable]

It absolutely "went right over his head"!...Can you IMAGINE if Jesus had condemned Peter because HE denied Christ 3 times?!😱

[@76verdee]

@UCGccmHc0T8BOji11731zQVA he never once that it made it OK or moral because everyone had slaves at that time. All he was saying is the fact that at that point in time slavery existed everywhere in the world. Sadly that was something that existed for many thousands of years. Rather than concentrating on the fact that the west fought to end slavery throughout the world people would rather continue living in the past. If people started using all that energy and time they spend focusing on the past to help the people who are being held and used as slaves in 2022. There are more slaves being held and used today than anytime in history but people who still rather focus on the slavery that ended rather than the slave trade that's still alive and well.

[@GoogleGoogle-xd3ex]

He's not the only one.

[@williamwhiterock9339]

I kinda agree with the student... how can we be ok with it at one point but then flip flop. People change but does a republic or any government?

[@paulprovenzano3755]

we outlawed slavery over a century and a half ago. there are MILLIONS of slaves in bondage today. asia, africa, india ….. I recommend that you leave this country that you hate so much, and go where slavery is still a daily issue and tell them how bad they are.

[@randygonzalez1375]

Wut about the genocide he comitted?

[@swety_nuts]

@@randygonzalez1375 Wut about it? No one alive today was killed in that genocide

[@randygonzalez1375]

@@swety_nuts the ones who survived lost their religion, culture, language, 90 percent of the population, raped abused in boarding schools they were forced into. Some reservations today have highest poverty rate, suicide rate, alcoholism and unemployment rate in the nation. The effects and repercussions of Europeans is still much alive today

[@randygonzalez1375]

@@swety_nuts take a trip to the pine ridge reservation n see how great ur country is

[@swety_nuts]

@@randygonzalez1375 The ones who survived died long ago from natural causes*. Just their ancestors remain and they went through absolutley zero of that hardship and they have the same resources and opportunities as the rest of the u.s.

[@shawnPATSFAN]

Isn't it a shame to hear Michael speak about the USA as it once was perceived and know that it is all slipping away ....

[@NPC-iy5ih]

People like to forget the tribe that he took slaves from wanted him to enslave their enemies for them. In which he did and as payment they gave him some of their own people as slave.. Why do people always forgot this part?

[@ravercorum20]

"The bad doesn't wash out the good, nor the good the bad." -Stannis Baratheon.

[@Awhmanitsdanttv]

Stannis the Mannis the TRUE HEIR TO THE THROWN

[@williamschaeffer409]

All hail Azor Ahai 🗡️🔥👑

[@bobby6134]

I know and people still vote Democrat. The part behind slavery. To many people pick and choose who to blame.

[@IHateNicolasCage]

“Stannis got FOOKED” - Ser Davos

[@thebusey8008]

It couldn’t be any more of a true statement! I’m watching GoT rn lol

[@dgeneeknapp3168]

You mean there were once imperfect men, in an imperfect world, in a time of different priorities?? IM SHOCKED!!! SHOCKED, I say!!

[@Wokevaccine]

And some black too, double shock horror.

[@blest5132]

clutch your pearls!

[@RichardHarlos]

D'Genee Knapp wrote, _"IM SHOCKED!!!"_ Not likely. More likely is that you're privileged and apathetic, and you use words without first thinking carefully enough to use words honestly. As long as you benefited from past atrocities, they don't matter to you. But, if someone today commits an atrocity against you, gets away with it, and future generations are going to benefit from that event... well, I bet you've got a lot to say in protest, right? All matters of injustice and oppression must -- MUST -- be viewed from the perspective of the victim. Because power will always rationalize it's abuse, greed, injustice, etc.

[@dohvahkene4473]

@@RichardHarlos Where did anyone say they didn't care? People are of their time. While it's true that those in power can often rationalize their actions, viewing all matters of injustice and oppression solely from the perspective of the victim can limit the understanding of complex social issues. The reality is that societal problems are often rooted in systemic and structural issues, rather than the actions of a single group or individual. Thus, a more comprehensive perspective, which takes into account the perspectives of all stakeholders, can lead to a more effective solution. Additionally, empathy and understanding of the perspectives of those in positions of power can help to build bridges and promote meaningful change, whereas a solely victim-centric perspective can lead to a stance of hostility and division. Any argument that is only looked at from the point of view of the victim without willingness to see that of the other is ignorant. For instance, I will use the touchy topic of the American Civil War. The conflict was rooted in deep-seated societal problems, including slavery, states' rights, and economic differences between North and South. While it can be argued that the victims of slavery were at the heart of the conflict, viewing the war solely from their perspective would ignore the complex and interwoven motivations of all involved parties. A more comprehensive understanding of the perspectives of those who fought for the Confederacy, as well as those in positions of power in the North and South, can provide a deeper understanding of the conflict and its causes. Furthermore, empathy and understanding of the perspectives of all parties can lead to a more productive and inclusive approach to discussing and addressing the legacy of slavery in the United States.

[@RichardHarlos]

@@dohvahkene4473 You're strawmanning what I wrote. Maybe it's unintentional but you're replying to variations of what I wrote. For example, you asked: _"Where did anyone say they didn't care?"_ Where did I write that *_someone said_* that they didn't care? (I didn't write that; you did). _"viewing all matters of injustice and oppression solely from the perspective of the victim "_ Where did I say to view matters *_solely_* from the victim's perspective? (I didn't write that, either; you did). Assuming you weren't aware of the changes you were making to what I wrote, and then replying to the changed version... do you now see what you did, and do you understand why that's not a good thing to do?

[@brandonjames8671]

How do you discover someone else's home?😂

[@perryholloway540]

That young man just got educated ,without having to pay tuition.

[@keepitforreally4501]

To ALL these people who cannot stand America why are you here? it’s a free country you can leave move, go to Europe go anywhere but get out of here you’re not wanted here. I am a Texan Mexican American and I am proud of the United States and I am proud of Texas and I’m proud of my Governor!❤🌹

[@alyxfaust5663]

If you’re Christian, pride also comes before your fall, so good luck with that.

[@johnpaton621]

If it is a free country they should be allowed to stay and critisize it and even change it. You forgot to mention that you are one of our brainless Americans

[@Xman80888]

He complains about slavery but guaranteed he owns a smart phone. The irony is palpable.

[@seanmcbrearty1365]

What ? So like supporting slave labor in Africa and China is that what your getting at ?

[@zionbrin1]

He warin cheep likely Chinese made clothes, caring a smart phone, all yhe memes. How bout enjoying his freedom of speech anf assembly which he wants abolished. The woke are neo fascist morons.

[@your_average_cultured_dude]

​@@seanmcbrearty1365 obviously

[@orishas6522]

@@seanmcbrearty1365 I have seen in Africa how parents sell their ... I have seen in Africa how their same leaders who are black still have black slaves ... I have seen in China how parents prostitute their daughters ... I have seen in China how there are still many child slaves.. i have seen in china how the 2nd child is illegal

[@patriarchmike]

​​@@seanmcbrearty1365 no he doesn't like slavery in China and Africa. He's just pointing out the hypocrisy of this kid

[@carolnoren4603]

Thank you and thank you again. Let’s pray that one day. They will see the light.

[@elgatochurro]

"I don't like history" "too bad"

[@RM-lk1so]

What? Those who forget history are bound to repeat it. Who are the slaves of Today. Anyone making under 100k a year. Or less. The people who actually make the Country operate. When the broke loose the opportunity to be self sufficient then true tyranny will overthrow the people. When the Government fears the people...we have liberty. When the people fear the Government there is Tyranny.

[@biggles8500]

I know, Knowles doesn't like or know anything about history. It's like asking Don Lemon or Michael Moore for medical advice. They are completely unqualified. The kid at least used a primary source though his argument fell into the trap of presentism (look it up).

[@KS-cz7nr]

Parents, please don't send your kids to college. Make your sons learn a trade.

[@leal536]

Right!! My son-in-law apprenticed to an electrician at the age of 18. He is 37 now and makes over $100K - education AFTER getting the skills in the trade. So, he got a degree in business so that he could help grow the business using his trade skills.

[@shoobyd00]

Yes, when you need a academic to sort your health out or represent you in court let’s bring in the brick layer. Stop demonising academia because you failed at it.

[@mylesfleetwood9158]

Or teach your kids how to analyze and think critically about things. Colleges and trade schools are on the same level.Both are necessary to make people be productive members of society.

[@krystynacarpenter9444]

Best advice ever.

[@brendielahooha]

@@mylesfleetwood9158 What is a trade school? (Indo not live in the US)

[@agentblonde100]

The most just....!!!!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@artofsuccess]

“moral concessions…” 😮

[@vicarofrevelwood]

Presentism! Definition: judging people in the remote past by current political, moral, or legal standards.

[@doggletamer]

If that's the case, good, let's go after the Democrats for how they treated blacks back in the day. Anyone remember the White Rooster mascot?

[@litozzz6791]

Beta was about to cry poor dude lol

[@jerryjeromehawkins1712]

I'm sure he has a pair of Nikes that were made by child s lave labor. So tired of these dorky, high and mighty twerps.

[@amazin7006]

@@jerryjeromehawkins1712 There are no nikes made by children, you are delusional lmao

[@joriskylie6857]

After the kid was done with his rant, I would just stop and look at him and say....OK now what do you propose. Let's start from there....

[@elgatochurro]

"a time machine to undo all human history"

[@willcastle2371]

@@elgatochurro 😂😂😂😂

[@xxxstindo9531]

I propose that something immoral isn't moral just causeits accepted as normal in society. Black Americans are still passed about the slavery of their ancestors should we just tell them that's how the world work or we could acknowledge it was immoral then and now So God let his people do an immoral act of keeping another person or persons as property

[@dojoparsnip9905]

@@xxxstindo9531 Blacks were the only slaves? you seem to be turning away from current (TODAY) slaves. what is happening about them? what about when certain native american tribes enslaved other tribes? what about the africans selling their own people as slaves?

[@susans3411]

Specifically, what are you doing to combat actual slavery now, especially child sex trafficking?

[@mkaldas100]

There are no acceptable moral compromises

[@DC05570]

That questioner’s estrogen level is off the charts, yo!!!🧔🏻

[@tinydancer36]

Soy Boi..

[@user-ww2wr6ku5x]

And cortisol levels.

[@workedfortheciawhenisoldrock]

He’s a Chauncey for sure

[@driftingwolf0]

The feminist dream man. So full of estrogen that he is almost a woman. (And she is still f***ing other dudes.)

[@throatpunch4789]

These young adults are being taught to think with emotion instead of fact and logic

[@RM-lk1so]

There was a trump sticker i put on my vehicle years ago. Fuck your feelings. Business is NOT ABOUT FEELINGS. ITS ALL ABOUT THE NUMBERS. AMERICA IS A BUSINESS. WORLD WIDE

[@Dar-kl1up]

Yes, slap them into reality

[@josemerinohankammer7261]

You dared to talk about facts? What do you know about the history of Columbus in the continent? (Supporting this idiot talking as if Columbus actually discovered or even landed in what is now the US) Read the atrocities recorded by the priest who sued him and got him broke and destitued from his titles by Spain. Since they were so horrified they didn't wanna have anything to do with him. Since you probably don't know who I'm talking about, his name is Bartolomé de las Casas. Talk after reading just the first chapter, because I warn you, if you even have any humanity in you I'll be difficult to even finish it

[@kylenajjar4548]

So we are all becoming women

[@sarahbatson3103]

Moral outrage judging past generations by the standards of today. Let’s hope those in future generations are kinder to us.

[@ChrishBlake]

Native American here. Thanks America for freeing me from engaging in tribal warfare and pagan rituals. 🇺🇸

[@nonchablunt]

most generous, most just --- LMFAO.

[@patriciageorge2916]

This is what happens when you take real, true history out of the schools.

[@alongfellow4147]

AMEN! you're exactly right. These kids have to teach themselves if they want to learn anything

[@biggles8500]

The kid read a primary source (look it up). That's applauded. Him trying to make an argument on presentism (look it up) was a losing battle. True history? Look up Columbus' governorship and his 'gold quotas' he instigated on Natives. Also look up the recall order from the Spanish crown that yanked him out disgracefully because Columbus was virtually committing genocide and not coming up with any results aka gold. Spain was taking a reputation beating which isn't bad if you have gold (see countless other atrocities they and other European powers made in the name of God aka gold). Knowles is just a Michael Moore alternative to the conservatives who don't want to do their own homework. My advice? Ditch these idiots that get paid 6 figures for these 'talks'. Do your own research. Break free from the political commentators who know nothing about history.

[@jrooksable]

Who decides what that is?!😱

[@jrooksable]

@@alongfellow4147 EVERYBODY needs to do that! It's called "discernment"!

[@patriciageorge2916]

@@jrooksable It's not who decides. Everything that happened in the past becomes history. It doesn't matter whether we like it or not it is still part of history.

[@jelly7310]

He'd probably faint if he knew that there's more slaves today than at any time in history.

[@indigetes]

No, no. He would be "triggered" and leave offended to complain about you.

[@jelly7310]

@@indigetes you're probably right.

[@msprissmiss]

"The one that made it possible for you to stand there & ask that question"..that says it ALL. If they were in another country they wouldn't be standing at all.

[@sunilsingh7881]

Every religion has problem we need to have faith in God and follow Righteousness.

[@Caritasaveritas]

Read the man’s actual writings. You see a heroic and humble human being.

[@prodigalson6166]

Tell that to the people he butchered and enslaved. Anybody can write nice things on paper, but the proof is in the pudding, the way in which they lived, the things which they did. Columbus does not represent American values in any way shape or form. He's no more American than a hammer and sickle. I reject Columbus and I reject celebrating this Un-American villain. America needs indigenous peoples day, and to teach the truth about our foundations, foundations with Columbus had absolutely nothing to do with, but the people who the Democrats spearheaded conquering did. Why celebrate a holiday that the Democrats made up? Hr331 100th Congress second session 1988🇺🇲

[@johnkersey2365]

You do realize he never stepped foot on the north American continent for his alleged discovery, how did he discover anything he was greeted by indigenous people. The indigenous peoples of this country really benefited from his discovery, spit on legacy we should shi* on his legacy as for Mr. Knowles and his ass backwards view of this country is naive and without intelligence.

[@bernitacenteno1326]

@C K Thankyou and may the people with dark or light skin stop their bias against their fellow human beings, especially when they use their biases against the innocent.

[@randygonzalez1375]

😂😂😂 did u see the letter he wrote to the queen about the natives. U should ck it out see how humble he is

[@randygonzalez1375]

Mass murderers aren't heroic humble people

[@mephInc]

Hey now! They weren't taught to read, only parrot.

[@sandramartin8999]

Critical thinking is becoming extinct in today's society. "I read something I didn't fully understand, therefore, I can lord it over others who don't know the difference."

[@wyldvigilante]

That’s a true statement as reading comprehension is at an all time low in America and still declining.

[@weldonbailey1005]

@@wyldvigilante good point about reading comprehension. We rarely hear about it discussed anymore. Its probably the most important factor in early education for a meaningful education to follow. Young kids must be taught and encouraged to READ BOOKS for their entertainment and enjoyment. Parent(s) are the key.

[@wyldvigilante]

@@weldonbailey1005 I completely agree. I think part of the problem is how our society has changed. Parents are not as common as baby mamas and baby daddies so that’s where it begins. Secondly the vast majority do not read anything that was not written in a text or a tweet using slang and short hand abbreviations. Reminds me of the movie Idiotcrasy but that is the direction I see us heading.

[@JohnDoe-uz7mq]

America has never been the greatest country in the world

[@MariaVlasiou]

The most this and the most that and the most most!😂😂😂

[@jennybfoxxy]

One could argue that the Biden administration is doing the same thing. What did Nancy Pelosi say? We need people to pick the crops?

[@ljss6805]

Difference is, they come freely, they get paid, they can't be harmed legally, and they can leave whenever they want. Yeah, big difference.

[@TuhljinTampergauge]

@@ljss6805 Wow, that's weak. You're defending a racist. We're talking about a "progressive" in modern times, not someone in history where we need extra context from the day. The day for judging Pelosi by is TODAY. What a pathetic defense, "Hey, at least the Democrat leaders aren't literal slaves!!1!" Yeah, there's a difference, but the analogy works and you didn't counter it.

[@ljss6805]

@@TuhljinTampergauge You're laughably wrong. Read what the OP said: "doing the same thing." The same thing means the same thing. Slavery=slavery.

[@bonesusa1998]

@@ljss6805 funny that you want to come to the defense of an actual racist bigot… 🤔

[@1960ARC]

How true, however Christopher Columbus is just a cool story. In fact it's not even that cool, just programming. We are all slaves to money!!!

[@khemkaslehrling3840]

It is more than disappointing to see the lengths so many have gone to in the name of confessing every last American sin without a single acknowledgement of even a fraction of the overwhelming greatness of these united states. What an experiment is this country. What a net positive for the world and humans.

[@TheAnnoyingBoss]

Michael has this way with words like Jordan Peterson where if he was going to cuss you out he could somehow do it without doing it both at the same time

[@RM-lk1so]

And if my memory of history serves me correctly...we are but the Kids of the world? The youngest formed Country in the world. With a Constitution. Although fluid and now constantly under attack

[@matthewmuenz5660]

@@RM-lk1so we are not the youngest formed country

[@osiasthegiant9919]

What greatness can be celebrated if drenched in the black ink that is sin?

[@frogking5573]

​@@osiasthegiant9919 by yout standard nothing should be celebrated no matter whay good it did. What a foolish and ignorant view to have

[@user-iw5rj8nj4t]

His ‘moral concessions’, nice minimalist term, cannot be ignored either.

[@selliantuttimusi6735]

Lol Micheal, you live in unicorn land if you think the US is all of that 😂

[@douglaspurnell8122]

I am so glad the speeker stood up for both Columbus and the United! 🇺🇲

[@patientzero5685]

Speaker

[@randygonzalez1375]

F*** colombus

[@roabauk]

Wait what s with columbus and us?

[@randygonzalez1375]

@@roabauk yupp. Columbus never set foot on the u.s

[@kristianbowering9690]

Columbus didn’t discover America and neither did Amerigo Vespucci It was named in 1496 when it was accidentally discovered by John Cabot while he was looking for trading routes… it was named after his sponsor Richard Amerike a welsh aristocrat living in the city of Bristol uk The reason it was named so is because in 1507 Columbus and Vespucci secretly used the maps created by John Cabot in 1496

[@CallawayGolf89]

The irony of it all is that he wouldn't be standing there bitching without realizing that Columbus is the reason he can do that today.

[@kayakuprising5914]

The SJW's of the world can't bring themselves to confront ALL the facts of Columbus. They criticize while typing on their Apple, Microsoft, computers and sipping on their Starbucks lattes.

[@rottierumbles9451]

"But we need them to pick crops" says Nanshee!

[@RM-lk1so]

Lmao

[@juleswhite8692]

I don't really understand what new technology has to do with that comparison. Your kinda proving them right by saying that. Also do you know ALL the facts? Or are you just parroting what other people are saying. Fucking kayak uprising 💀

[@biggles8500]

Facts of Columbus? You mean when he's recalled back to Spain in disgrace because of his virtual genocide (and honestly his failure to deliver on his gold promises)? The kid made an error by trying to argue presentism. But at least he used a primary source and was trying. Knowles just said, MERICA! Knowles logic would celebrate Hitler for medical advances because of the torture and execution of tons of mentally ill patients. It's crap logic. Knowles is just a conservative version of Michael Moore without any documentaries. Ignore political commentators, Knowles locked in 6 figures for this talk. Go get a history book and read from professional historians who don't get paid crap but do it because they love it.

[@KLL0]

Some people forget that sometimes things are have to be done whether they like it or not.

[@GButlerify]

just because you're able to overtalk someone doesn't mean you're right

[@sherryhunt3995]

Thank you! These young people are so self righteous and selfish at the same time.

[@rangerchief8004]

Nice to see people are paying thousands for education and still have learned less then a 6th grader.

[@reharl4953]

"I'm going to rage at dead people because they can't fight back and it makes me feel like a boss."

[@ShmuckCanuck]

Bruh You’re aware we say this shit to racists and idiots today The only reason this last shot comes up is it’s what the racists use to justify being racist

[@reharl4953]

@@ShmuckCanuck What in the absolute fuck are you rambling about?

[@ShmuckCanuck]

@@reharl4953 nobody is saying this shit To Christopher Columbus They’re saying it today To racists who are alive today

[@ShmuckCanuck]

@@reharl4953 to people who say things like Columbus was great for native ameifca a Nothing bad happened cause of him coming over it was awesome and good for everyone Or jsur weirdly incorrect stuff like he was a good sailor Or brave Or discoeveeed North America Or courageously believed the earth was round He was basically a really shit sailor and mathematician Who thought the world was way smaller then it was Couldn’t get a job cause he was shit But then cause he was shit he’s work for shit pay and with little support And Newly coniqeerted chrsitisn Spain was broke as hell Looking for money And didn’t really know fuck all about sailing or trade So we’re like screw it we’ll give him some money; he’s the best we can afford and maybe it works And Columbus died; having been twice removed from his position as governor and thrice as captain due to massive incompetence He still angrily insisted that he had discovered the shortest quickest root to China And that if you just went inland; you’d find it ! He was of course very wrong And was also a profligerste rapist of children Which I believe is something you conservatives today look down upon but I mean He raped dozens if not more Native American girls so🤷‍♂️ Kind of a bag of trash and weird you guys have parades for him

[@reharl4953]

@@ShmuckCanuck What they're doing is using a misframed historical microcosm to needlessly and disingenuously attack a cultural icon. That has nothing to do with racism, except maybe unduly trying to cast Europeans as villains when in reality they were functioning under the same rule set as everyone else of that era. Which is racist.

[@mogrowneyiv7306]

Good job Dan, we’ve been praying for ya!

[@mickyvalenz9959]

How do you know he didn’t hold those beliefs but I see the argument. Lol

[@standright8151]

Exactly “the one that allows you to stand there and ask this question”. Go and ask in China see what’s the answer🤔🧐

[@ItsmepAzand]

What country is he talking about? Narnia? There is no way someone even resembling a intelligent being could still think that about the US? Americans...

[@degstoll]

He exaggerates and the fact that Columbus never stepped on the Us, LOL

[@HOLY_SPIRIT_GOD]

"Do you eat perpetuation H as bubble gum? Because your lips look so tight!"

[@SD-hr9is]

“Some moral concessions”😂

[@Penny-nd9ze]

This is what happens when real history is not taught in schools. These kids are uninformed and uneducated.

[@hm7563]

He's got facts in front of him.

[@randycotterhill783]

Yes look at custard last stand all lies

[@onironius8008]

Right, Columbus definitely didn't murder natives if they didnt surrender all of their gold, and continue to mine more. Definitely an admirable person, 💯%

[@shawnPATSFAN]

And indoctrinated to be tools against the establishment which ironically is what created them in the first place...

[@greentomato9829]

exactly bro, native americans should have just relinquished their money, worked for colonizers acting as slaves, and just not get sick. It's honestly not that hard

[@jasonlakin1971]

He needed a piece of paper for his 2 cents worth

[@mirtamurphy9317]

😂😂😂

[@nicdenham6211]

Sophmoric... great word dropped perfectly

[@sabrinawilliams417]

Focus on ending the slavery that still exists. End human trafficking.

[@thoughtgaming492]

His body is free but his mind is enslaved.

[@jamesho8258]

"The newest slavery is to keep the people poor and stupid" -Dave Mustaine

[@failedatmakingasandwich423]

Unfortunately his body is not free from his mind

[@garymanning62]

Yes

[@connorprice1902]

it took democrats 122 years longer than republicans to instate a black senator

[@alongfellow4147]

But it took a republican to set them free... go fish!

[@biggles8500]

Democrats and Republicans flipped values in the 1930s. I can't stand when people start saying Republicans are better because xyz before 1930. Or Democrats are better because xyz after 1930. This is basic history that was taught in elementary school. I get people are conflicted on some historical figures...but the Democrat and Republican thing is elementary.

[@thewonderfullymadejaraid7015]

@@biggles8500 they didn't switch values. They merely switched locations.

[@jacobbaker7763]

@@biggles8500 Ah yes they just flipped all the senators and house members walked to the opposite side of the room and decided it'd be silly to switch party names

[@blacknonbinarydisabledlesbian]

​​@@biggles8500 lmao how stupid of a rebuttal. They didn't "switch sides" like you leftists keep saying. If so, when tf did THAT happen? Otherwise modern democraps would be republican. It's the CHEAPEST way liberals today AVOID responsibility and blame for their party when too much harm committed throughout history aligns with them. Sorry dumbass but that's not how this works. You can't even argue their values changed cus guess who tf is STILL tryna reintroduce segregation by calling them "safe spaces"? who tf STILL tells POCs they're "oppressed" and need saving? Who tf is encouraging violence towards anyone that voices an opinion that doesn't align with theirs (fascist ideolody)? Democraps sure asf haven't changed. The only thing that's changed is how fucking STUPID their cult members *voters are. Btw cult is accurate considering the fact they also founded the KKK

[@R8drntn]

Columbus was Italian who worked for the Spanish king. Columbus didn't discover the USA, he landed in what is now Mexico. It was the Spanish who stormed the lands and named in New Spain in 1521. "White man" as people say, didn't hit Plymouth Rock until 1620. There is so much of our history that people refuse to acknowledge...

[@bilyluna]

Slavery wasnt only a Spanish bussiness...Was Spain whit ´´las leyes de Burgos`` who stoped slavery

[@Caritasaveritas]

Thank you, Michael.

[@JCCharts]

That kid has been privileged his entire life.

[@josephbieber2788]

The only one that allows you to ask that question!!!

[@mantyxxx]

When you hear an intelligent person speak its such a pleasure.

[@robertgiesbrecht4394]

It must suck to have to hear yourself speak then.

[@stephenmitchell3569]

​@@robertgiesbrecht4394 Uncalled for insult to a person you don't know. Just because he supported the young student you had no reason to insult. Really cowardly as you hide behind a keyboard....lol. Yes that was a real troll boy....lol.

[@dracolusus]

Justifying historic slavery, cause it helped bring about your capitalistic, warmongering dystopia you are so utterly lost to...is called mental gymnastics, not intelligence

[@willthorson4543]

He's not very intelligent on Columbus. His Technicolor 1950s version of Columbus. Reality? He wiped out entire tribes of people. Enslaved entire tribes. Committed genocide. Dude straight up.glossed over Columbus and real history.

[@muCephei_]

Only because he's articulate doesn't make him right.

[@influx5821]

"These people did bad things in the past, so all the good they did is worthless"

[@featherpuke]

Yeah what good, you colonised the space and built towns in unsustainable places

[@influx5821]

@@featherpuke No, we built society. There's a difference

[@featherpuke]

@@influx5821 holy shit do you really believe there wasn't society before colonisation

[@Perky_the_Great]

​@@featherpuke Lmao, tell me you don't understand history. Its always been conquer, every civilization and society has done that to other civilizations and societies. Yet even now your entire existence benefits from this ancient system, everyone on earth has benefitted from this system for its mere existence. If you don't understand that, you need to hit the books with an open mind, just not so open your brain will fall out.

[@featherpuke]

Thanks@@Perky_the_Great , i do get that ! I also think that we really should be past this, we aren't tribal territory defenders anymore, we've built a civilisation that spans the globe and have built complex networks for trade and travel; it's whimsy but i dream the world can see itself as one civilisation soon instead of separate independent countries where we clearly rely on one another, or at least countries caring for the fragility of the world and being more thoughtful. conquers ur mom, lmao !

[@pathfollower]

Most people don't comprehend that the end of slavery in the western world coincided with the beginning of the industrial revolution. This was not a coincidence. Machines replaced slaves. For a person to produce their own place to live, food to eat, clothes to wear, and have extra to trade for other necessities took massive effort. Just producing enough to survive was unbelievably hard. Slavery increased the efficiency of production, much in the same way machines do today.

[@frankieg8117]

😂😂😂😂 sophomoric 😂😂to 😂 it's going in the filing cabinet

[@pigeonsil240sx]

lovehow these same people literaly put zero effort in ending slavery today and have the nerve to point fingers at those who did

[@michaelkunkel3975]

If you feel good and proud while studying history, you're not actually studying history.

[@dwl3006]

Exactly.

[@benjio6046]

I took a colossal dump one night I was still proud the next morning so your argument is only half true.

[@KayZee1957]

I once read a great qoute: "College hisotry professors are the only professors that hope that their student weren't paying attention in High School"

[@PiperAtTheGatesOfYourMom]

Uhh… what? Im proud as shit of the Moon Landing, im proud of the victory of the allies in WW2, im proud of the invention and innovation of technology (especially space-related ones)…

[@demiurge7150]

​@@PiperAtTheGatesOfYourMomthat nice but history also have dark side the slave, the corruption, and the chaos america and every other country have is is Collosal if we compare itnto the good things that why someone make the quote

[@boost7983]

Kids, they lecture, before they understand.

[@jeffherman6330]

Someone once said the greatest moment in himan history was discovering the new world. The human species was divided for thousands of years. Had it continued, the humans on the Americas could become a different species. The human species were reunited. You dont have to respect Columbus, but understand all of our survival today has benefited from him.

[@stevenpadilla4294]

Nobody blames the crown that sent him. Backed him,Sent more ships,weapons.

[@yraglacus3259]

Didn't he get called back to Spain because the crown wanted him to explain why he was committing atrocities?

[@stevenpadilla4294]

@@yraglacus3259 so it was him alone enslaving and forced working the natives working them to death and suicide? 1 guy. Maybe his crew but how many men can you put on an 14th century ship

[@stevenpadilla4294]

@@yraglacus3259 ok. Three ships, 87 crewmen. It could have happened. It's funny ,my own mother was calling it ingenious day and I said but you're white! All lot of Spanish blood. Plus Columbus was Italian, so now she's racist? I told her to get over it. 500 yrs is long enough.

[@yraglacus3259]

@@stevenpadilla4294 I'm not saying it was only him, just that the crown wasn't happy with his actions. He gets the blame for it because he had the responsibility for his crew, and not only allowed their actions but did the same things. And yeah, a 15th century galleon can't really hold much crew compared to todays ships. And yes, 500 years is a long time. Nobody should expect people today to pay for what assholes did so long ago, and I don't think that's what is being asked for. The goal of reframing it as "Indigenous Day" is to stop lionizing Columbus, not to tell white people how terrible they are.

[@roboteen]

@@yraglacus3259 nah, the goal is to tell white people that they're terrible and have to pay reparations. Ask any Democrat politician if they want the whites to pay reparations, literally any of them and they'll tell you that they do. Ask them if they think Africans should pay reparations for the slavery they currently have in Africa, and the slave trade they built kingdoms on in the past (the woman king). Ask them if the Spaniards should pay reparations for being far worse on the slaves they purchased from the Africans. You'll notice that they ONLY want the white people paying. They don't care about the family tree of the black slave owners in America paying, they don't care about the Africans who made the slave trade possible in the first place, they don't care about the Asians that traveled here and are now know as native Americans who also enslaved, raped and pillaged other tribes. They only care that white people pay. They don't even care that the Irish were enslaved. You people only care about Columbus doing a bad deed that literally every group of people in the world did at that time because he was 1: white and 2: he did colonization better than those other groups.