Michael Sandel (Harvard University): the tyranny of merit. (Spanish Subtitles)

[@CyberneticOrganism01]

The Messi example suggests there may be something wrong with the distribution of wealth, but that does not necessarily mean something's wrong with meritocracy.

[@svenhurlimann1099]

I think the example with messi was not directed at meritocracy, but more towards showing that free markets do not bring about meritocracy, or for that matter, do not bring about a meritocratic distribution of wealth.

[@CyberneticOrganism01]

@svenhurlimann1099 he says high-school teacher should get paid comparable to Messi. I agree. Question is how can we modify the rules such that this happens.

[@svenhurlimann1099]

@@CyberneticOrganism01 Agreed, I think we are on the same page here. Teachers should be paid higer wages and that top football athlestes do not need the extreme amounts of money they earn. Regarding the question of how we achive a more fair distribution of wealth, mr. Sandel suggests that meritocracy, as we as a society understand it, may not be the best way and that rather than focusing on individual achivments and skills, we should focus on what is beneficial for the common good, therefore not rewarding people for theyr Talents but for the contribution to society they make. Thats how I understand this talk and I agree with that, at least in large parts.

[@rajgiri7533]

I am from Nepal our educators or philosopher have not such higher place it is covered by Political who never need merits.

[@alejandra8708]

Stop talking nonsense. The market, capitalism, is a great and overpowering mechanism that rules EVERYTHING

[@pradeeppandey7228]

🙏🙏🙏

[@강영진-b3d]

I 've never seen this kind of inspiring, magnificent philosopher in my whole life. He made me live another life. I really thank him for his contribution to human societies. Thank him, thank him so much. Love trumps hadred. Another world is possible!

[@languagefreeassangeteacher5338]

Yes, he is truly inspiring.

[@noobsaibot5285]

Just telling you what you want to hear. Those who work harder and achieve more don't deserve more than you. Feel better?

[@ronaldreagan-ik6hz]

Lol. Liberal insanity

[@languagefreeassangeteacher5338]

Such an inspiring person. Thank you, Professor Michael Sandel.

[@noobsaibot5285]

You think Assange would agree with any of this?

[@languagefreeassangeteacher5338]

@@noobsaibot5285 What about you?

[@noobsaibot5285]

@@languagefreeassangeteacher5338 No. Merit is merit. Tyranny is oppression of the human spirit through dictatorship. It is 'the resentment of merit'.

[@languagefreeassangeteacher5338]

@@noobsaibot5285 too easy. What is merit? Money? Heritage? Lineage? And: Why should those who `achieved merit´ govern? Aren´t we living in democracies?

[@noobsaibot5285]

@@languagefreeassangeteacher5338 you mean race and privilege? Or what does merit have to do with it? Nothing. You can elect the special needs kid to drive your school bus, but you might regret it. Or you could elect someone who has merit. Up to you

[@uniforce101]

Yes. This is my view as well on whatever job we are doing, we are on the same level. Another fact is that, the higher one position in the company, the less work one do and might no need any talent at all to be there. Why ? Connection, nepotism and marrytocracy.

[@CyberneticOrganism01]

The reasons you cite are exactly the opposites of meritocracy, and they are bad. So you may agree that meritocracy is better.

[@Meli888100]

Ud. esta ensenando y yo estoy sentado escuchandole. Si ud. no fuera meritorio no estaria donde esta ahora: ensenandome a mi y muchos otros. Entonces, sin meritocracia activa, Ud se podria sentar y yo ponerme en pie para ensenarlo a usted. Y que le ensenaria quiza yo? Pues quiza NADA. Porque el merito de haber alcanzado un nivel de Profesor le corresponde a Ud. Asi que, le felicito! Creo en la meritocracia. Mas alla de que podemos abordar diversas tangentes del tema.

[@AngelaRodhas]

Amigo, usted no entendió nada!

[@Eviticus-Maximus]

@@AngelaRodhasnothing at all.

[@tonygaytan9848]

What happens to Messi when the money runs out?

[@franciscartmell8047]

He becomes a TV pundit.

[@darmaw22]

What about the tyranny of virtue, the tyranny of conscience, the tyranny of honesty, etc? Placing the word tyranny before a complex system does not make it tyrannical. Following the great Thomas Sowell, one can always ask, "What is the alternative." Admittedly, meritocracy is not a perfect system. But it seems that all other alternatives are worse.

[@ronaldreagan-ik6hz]

Liberal just love selling victimhood

[@krisma1631]

There is no tyranny in the virtue. It cant be happened.

[@mariemanila7239]

my dream is to attend one of prof michael sandel's lectures or speaking events...

[@mayac.1345]

The question is why are they being persuaded to give up on Democracy? You need to point out the factors and how those factors brought into fruition.

[@Indivisible_Individual]

Forget this guy. The truth is YOU, like everyone else, has the right to your own life, that you can rise as far as your mind and ability will take you, that you don’t have to justify your life to anyone, and no one has the right to take away that which you have earned.

[@uniforce101]

No. Maybe 10 x because age limitations to play good and skillful football.

[@narainsinha3627]

Some are born great,some achieve greatness and some get greatness thrust upon them.How far this statement ignored?

[@95greenbug]

Its interesting to think of all things as biases.. talent, merit, effort, genetics.. ignoring all other things.. instead of adapting consideration.. Here's the thing though you can not rely on the individual alone to have consideration. A Republic will not work.. But Socialism brings tyranny of the masses, biases, ignorance's of the individual. A cap perhaps on capitalism, that feeds back into the lowest incomes..

[@noobsaibot5285]

We have regulated free-market capitalism. Perhaps some more regulations on monopolies, especially those being created by the government. CBDCs, ESGs, and RFIDs are the future the socialists want for us. Tyranny is coming.

[@ronaldreagan-ik6hz]

Rent caps are always a total failure. Capitalism cap? Lol. Ridiculous

[@95greenbug]

@@ronaldreagan-ik6hz I was just pondering the idea. There is a loophole in every system. It really takes a united effort to make any system work. Many have no intention of that however.

[@ronaldreagan-ik6hz]

@@95greenbug anytime government places an artificial “Cap” on business, bad outcomes result. Also notice- it’s always democrats that want to impose caps. Because democrats always want to be seen as compassionate- while the results of their compassion is most often worse than what they were trying to fix. Look up the results of rent caps. They are a total failure. There are several cities and states talking about imposing rent caps now - and they are all by democrat governments. Imagine if there were caps on incomes? This happens in union scales. There is no incentive past the cap to increase productivity.

[@CyberneticOrganism01]

​@@95greenbug What "system"? we can and are changing the "system". If you think all systems have loopholes then you're resigned and passive. If you look closer, you'd realize there is no "system".

[@gutsy3597]

Society is unfair to begin with! Let's just take that as a fact of life, the blame of which can only be placed on God or the creator whichever you believe in. And move on with life not thinking much about things that are not under your control.

[@gnanasabaapatirg7376]

Then y the fuck r u here listening to such lectures

[@gubski1]

I think an argument about luck of Messi being born in the age of soccer is false. Millions of others are born to the same age and have ssme opportunity to excel in this sport. I agree that there are disadvantaged kids who get less opportunities just because they were born in poor or less educated family. The function of the state is to create just education system that is free for all and gives equal opportunities to all students. Having graduated the high school new adults should join the race to the top with the most innovative and talented rewarded accordingly for their work.

[@AngelaRodhas]

I recommend you reading his book to have a better understanding of what he is saying. "Million are born in the same age and have the same opportunity". not true. It would be long to explain that is why I recommend you reading the book, until then better not discuss.

[@CyberneticOrganism01]

​@ssartre5240 People do not have the same opportunities, so they achieve different levels of success by chance. But that is still not a reason to abandon meritocracy. What is the alternative?

[@narainsinha3627]

@@AngelaRodhas how can you ask someone not to discuss?

[@GcVy-k4e]

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[@noobsaibot5285]

Does lionel messi deserve a 1000 times more than my high school teacher? YES, he earned it. He is the greatest player in history.

[@ronaldreagan-ik6hz]

Amen

[@nohisocitutampoc2789]

Disaster of subtitles.

[@franciscartmell8047]

Football is a business. Messi was paid what he was because PSG thought he would bring in more money than that especially through the Champions League.

[@helenabarbosa4821]

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[@helenabarbosa4821]

It makes me understand and inspire my vision of living thanks you very much its a privilegie to listen to you i AM very grateful 🙏🙏🙏

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[@guerlinesaintlouis4471]

Groceries store clerk or Deli associates.... working for Publix Supermarket in West Palm Beach FL... peanuts

[@ronaldreagan-ik6hz]

Yet they are voluntarily pursued.

[@GcVy-k4e]

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[@dabrack9350]

Improving the common good should be the ultimate goal of all people. That is the message of Jesus and Ben Franklin. Orientals surely have examples of their own. When speaking of Messi the professor stopped short. He acknowledged that the footballer was at the very top of his game and that some teachers were also the very best, but then he stopped. The next step should have included that not only was Messi the superstar but that the market judged he was and pays far more to watch him than it will to have superstar teachers. (No contracts for live broadcasts of 11th-grade geometry class are made in the US let alone Brazil or England.) The second shortcoming of Prof. Sandel's analysis concerns the level of starting advantages. For opportunities to be completely equal, we have to go past all 3-year-old's nutrition and medical care to family values and even to DNA. Ultimately, the professor talks himself away from striving for equal opportunity to equal outcomes (though he carefully rephrases). Additionally, he should have noted there are many ways to share in the bounties of life - from missionaries to mentors.

[@ravindertalwar553]

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[@ronaldreagan-ik6hz]

Puke

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[@ivandate9972]

biology is better than sociology

[@ronaldreagan-ik6hz]

Yet people overcome biological misgivings every day because of merit

[@rajgiri7533]

I am from Nepal our educators or philosopher have not such higher place it is covered by Political who never need merits.

[@AngelaRodhas]

We are ruled by ignorant politician who don't have merits, it is happening all around the word, sad to say.

[@ronaldreagan-ik6hz]

Thus it’s a largely poor country