Michael Saylor: Bitcoin & Lightning Network Will Transform Businesses and National Cybersecurity, AI

Michael Saylor is an American entrepreneur, executive, inventor, author, and philanthropist. He is co-founder and Executive Chairman of MicroStrategy (MSTR), a publicly traded business intelligence firm he founded in 1989. Michael is an advocate for the Bitcoin Standard (www.hope.com) and is the first CEO of a publicly listed company to make a long-term investment in Bitcoin. He founded and serves as the trustee for the Saylor Academy (www.saylor.org), a non-profit organization that provides free education to people around the world.
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0:00 Intro, Swan Bitcoin promo
1:32 Bitcoin for corporations
5:54 BTC on corporate balance sheets
7:45 Lightning network use cases
12:07 Open AI
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21:34 Cryptography, wax seals
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33:13 Microstrategy using Lightning for incentives
38:47 Is Bitcoin technically ready for influx of users?
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[@nataliebrunell]

I only have ONE KZbin page and it is this one. Do not trust any impersonators in this comment thread. I will never ask you for money - I'm here to learn and educate.

[@maryjanehalligan6210]

Could you please address how bitcoin can be used in the near future to say buy groceries or to pay your cell phone bill etc.… Or will it only be used for what Michael spoke of which I probably only understand 1/10 of😂since I’m a novice. Well I seem to hear mostly and that is how it’s helping other people invest but not be able to use this money tangibly in the real world… I would like to think that the CBDC that they’re trying to push will not come to fruition That there will be the option from these decentralized systems to function in the world and not just be used as a stock strategy

[@sluggo3slug]

Please clone your channel on Rumble

[@brendanmccarthy4618]

Hey Elizabeth Warren, are you listening!??!! You need BTC! Do your homework!!!

[@ltethan649]

Send me 1 bitcoin to verify this is your real account.

[@taccntb4345]

Btc is literally to most expensive meme coin in existence, it has zero utility and at best, a store of gold. It’s so desperate to be Ethereum that its actually trying to follow in the footsteps of ETH, yet with 10 times less the amount of developers that Ethereum has. What does that mean? It means that BTC will never catch up with ETH. These are just the facts that are low, IQ, BTC, Maxis will always deny. BTC lost its lead many many years ago when they denied Vitalic Buterin. Had they welcomed him the crypto space would be dominated by BTC lolol. You guys lost and you haven’t even realized it.

[@Just21Million]

Saylor never disappoints. Great job, Natalie!

[@Steve-Mcgarrett]

I'm disappointed we couldn't see her legs in thar dress. Otherwise all good! Saylor is the man

[@socalglassvideos1953]

Great discussion! I always learn so much listening to Michael Saylor. Two thumbs up. 👍👍

[@bitcoinpoemspro1406]

Amazing interview. Thanks Michael and Natalie!

[@timruyle6813]

Two of the best in the business right there. Great work guys!

[@akikotakorpi6354]

Always enjoy hearing what Saylor has to say. He's super switched on and a real visionary. I loved the analogy of wax seals!

[@westra4]

Thanks Natalie. Great interview. Michael always explains things well

[@Hope-is-not-a-strategy]

Awesome interview Natalie. Always love listening to Michael Saylor. Is that Jeff Booth just chilling and chatting in the background?

[@GabeHiggins]

Yes. He's very approachable.

[@apc4884]

Saylor no1, Booth no2. Best speakers on Bitcoin

[@unikovida6645]

Saylor always blows my mind!!! Where did this dude come from???

[@mohammedhadjsaid7884]

MS is a legend, the mics are very good, that background crowd noise is completely eliminated,...good job Natalie 👍

[@S54VR6]

My favorite Saylor interview in awhile. Great job Natalie

[@EveryDayWalkingWithChrist]

Many Thanks Natalie and Michael Saylor!👍👍👍👍👍

[@thecryptobureau6738]

Learnt so much from this interview, Bitcoin is the future , a must watch for all the noobs. Thanks Nat.

[@waynerichardson1051]

Thanks Natalie and Michael! Thank you both for everything you're doing for us, its really appreciated!! Bitcoin is hope! Cheers

[@MastertheFun]

Good topics to talk about. Thanks!

[@yrp237]

What would the world become if TRUTH & HARD MONEY actually ruled the day??? Hard to imagine.

[@CHHSFans]

Awesome podcast !

[@Pravin_Yeshua_BTC]

Awesome times ahead. ⚡️ Great interview 🧡

[@Cope_M]

Thank you, Natalie and Michael! Grateful for your time and for sharing. I am fairly new to Bitcoin, and this helped to fill in some gaps regarding technologies that I thought already existed, but are still in development. I look forward to these applications coming to fruition, hopefully sooner than later. Thank you, again!

[@Cope_M]

@@TheBitcoinRevolution Thank you!

[@chrishayes8012]

We are lucky to have Saylor

[@eossarasota5205]

Excellent interview very exciting. What’s going on in the lightning space. I had no idea what MicroStrategy was doing with the lightning net work.

[@GabeHiggins]

Made you all look at my back for the whole thing. 😂 Great interview as usual. Always thoughtful questions from Natalie and deep answers from Saylor. It was a great conference if you couldn't tell.

[@claypulley589]

The only time Michael smiles is when Natalie interviews him 😜

[@jesuscrypto33]

You are great, Natalie 👏👏👏 I love ❤️ your videos

[@eugene9446]

Great class! Learning more everyday

[@emanuele20x]

👋🏽 great job Nat

[@maryjanehalligan6210]

I don’t like the CBDC option they are quickly trying to funnel us into. When will bitcoin be able to be used everywhere to pay for things… I mean the grocery store and how to pay your electric bill etc. can somebody please do a video regarding this

[@maryjanehalligan6210]

Obviously I’m not gonna reply to a WhatsApp 😂 seems like a bot response

[@yehimstone5492]

@@maryjanehalligan6210 seems el Salvador is doing pretty well moving into bitcoin adoption for all transactions. I believe there are many dubious persons in usa banking and government who do not want to give up control over citizens that fiat currencies created. Why did Chinese communist party outlaw bitcoin mini g and ownership? Remember what happened to the banking accounts of Canadian truckers who protested covid lockdowns? Big brother government can't lockdown bitcoin transactions and they don't like that.

[@bobdavidson4163]

Great interview Natalie!

[@JonFrumTheFirst]

Regarding AI and social media platforms: on bitcoin channels, I regularly see streams of comments that aren't grammatically wrong, but that aren't relevant to the specific content of the video either. I don't mean the obvious scammers - these are neutral, don't lead anywhere, and seem only tangentially relevant to the subject covered. I can't help wondering if someone is already experimenting with AI on social media as a teaching tool.

[@COOLDUDE090]

Saylor is a true visionary ! Laser Eyes

[@blackfiree91]

GASP-a new MS interview!!! I’m so excited!

[@actsofserviceplumbing90]

Thanks for educating us!!! Blessings 🎉

[@decentri777]

Both of you are amazing. Thanks for all your efforts.

[@bobgracia3318]

great content an interview with Tom Luongo would be Very informative

[@JWalters-wy2pc]

My God. Look at all that BTC star power just LINGERING in the background!!!! Great show, thank you for sharing. Take care, everyone. Cheers!

[@peaceandfreedomeconomics8984]

Bunch of scammers in the background.

[@bradleythompson8833]

@@peaceandfreedomeconomics8984 How are they scammers?

[@chriskii12344]

I see a michael saylor video I click

[@apc4884]

Saylor literally makes the hairs on your bank stand up when you think about where bitcoin is going in the future

[@cuttheknot4781]

Natalie and Saylor would make for an amazing power couple in business. They obviously have mutual chemistry toward each other.

[@didactica9326]

They are- you're looking at it listening to it. Or are you actually speaking of a romance between them? What a strange thing to bring up during an interview of this caliber

[@wisteria4981]

Outstanding video 👏

[@gloriamariadc7757]

Excellent questions!!!

[@gloriamariadc7757]

Massive respect Nat for asking such poignant questions!!

[@dmpk9716]

Interesting convo.

[@wrevelate]

The future is bright! ❤❤❤

[@PeeedaPan]

Michael is the CEO of Bitcoin

[@smilesbitcoin]

Great show thanks for this

[@gloriamariadc7757]

U kno it's a great interview when ur not at all distracted by the people in the background.

[@alsouabramova2793]

Remember if we all owned Bitcoin the WEF the UN and WHO wouldn't exist.. Wouldn't that be real. Freedom

[@xzineth]

Really appreciate this 1:1, Ty

[@MrWrklez]

Excellent

[@dek2000utube]

Thank you. Do you know if there will be videos released of the conference for us to watch?

[@timtritt]

I wish Michael would elaborate more on his answers. Always so short!

[@MaximusMongoose]

Let's gooooooo 🤙🏽😜

[@pierogalante7734]

very nice Natalie

[@MikeStillUK]

He killed it 😎

[@TallyDynasty]

Watch out for Pulsechain which just forked ETH. Faster and Cheaper and now already the 3rd most actively used coin, and only in first week. Most don't know. Lightning network has big competition.

[@monkeyfarm]

my 2 favorite coiners in 1 place :D

[@kjw7815]

When new ATH? lol Just kidding. Loved the episode as per and it's always a blast seeing Saylor talk sense to the world. He's a majority of the reason why we're seeing this boom of enthusiasm. IMO we're going to see something insane and the FOMO will blow the top way off this cycle. #HaveFun #Stack$ats

[@stevedre6481]

Jeff Booth lurking in the background.

[@A.1.2.K]

Btc continues to amaze. The rabbit hole is endless

[@jeanpierreagostiniderisi-sy3tb]

The Michael Saylor I was died forever.

[@prancer1803]

Imo we need the lightning network or similar for KZbin comments and social media. Maybe 1/100th or a cent for a comment, something like that would eliminate most of the scam and phishing comments. If a scammer copypastas 10 million KZbin bots to spam the comments… there has to be a way of creating ‘friction’ so that only actual real people are commenting not just bots on bots on bots.

[@bitplebleo]

mike the btc gigachad! so inspiring

[@flyinghotwing]

you look amazing in that blue dress

[@endthefed5304]

The trick to requiring micropayment friction is to remove the money printer from the state. It looks a little like a catch 22. Maybe not.

[@petizme]

Top

[@alphadarling]

Idk why I laughed but Saylor would talk about the most absurd economic situations like “robot dogs with gun on their backs” and add “this is why bitcoin is important”. It’s true. But I just find it entertaining that he makes these wild connections haha.

[@xmonikerhotmailcom]

Trying to see if people are paying attention. Good tactic to be absurd.

[@jeffdonald1791]

Love to see Jeff Booth b.s.'ing in the background

[@Thuinner]

Could you do a review of the Tangem wallet?

[@swamivivekananda-cyclonicm8781]

Thumps up to those who identified Jefff both at background.❤

[@daydreams4rock]

can i use a Fold Visa in Australia and is there any benefits in using here in OZ ?

[@Omnicatvsbinanceomni]

Yes ma'am the btc only crypto corency if only grow but unfortunately a lot of alt coins r rub.. for luq btc price

[@toppo6240]

The answer to the problems your talking about is verasity token !

[@jagprototype8003]

Lighting network uses bitcoin because its a security rail and protects the data during g transfer

[@JoeyJ1984]

Riiight, I'm sure law abiding corporations (owned by the same people who own the politicians) will allow competition to their CBDCs. They're just cool like that.

[@endthefed5304]

How will an identity be created on the Bitcoin network? Presumably it would need to be coordinated with the birth event of each individual. ??

[@Zoofactory]

👏👏👏

[@barbarianlife]

We are going to need more Satoshis.

[@atlanta27]

5:15 who do you borrow off to buy the stocks then once you've got the stocks who can leverage them off, and how much do you need to buy, is this relevant to average people, if so where do we go? Or is it nonsense

[@ec7287]

Natalie is all "Get to the point, Mike!" He really went on some tangents there.

[@ravenkhoury]

❤❤❤❤

[@antnovs]

The legendary gigachad is finally here

[@endthefed5304]

When will swan support lightning network withdrawal?

[@TheBitcoinRevolution]

Class x 2.

[@robertkennedy9188]

Satoshi did not anticipate the advent of ASICS.

[@danmcnamara3287]

You’re exactly right, and the ASCI chip industry is what caused the value of bitcoin to explode as the difficulty curve shot up in response to each new higher speed miners coming to market. Most bitcoin investors know nothing about this and keep chasing the wealth dream. The volatility of bitcoin assures that it will NEVER be a widely adopted currency. There is no real reason for bitcoin to be worth even a penny. All of bitcoin’s value is merely contrived from trading off of other people’s misguided opinions on something they really don’t understand, including MS. He is notorious for spewing slick sound bites of buzzwords and pseudo economic sounding terms. Highlarious how this interviewer nods along obsequiously hanging on his relentless speculative blather. You can see him just making sht up as he says it.

[@kanye_west_side]

just jeff booth in the background 😎

[@davidstreets9788]

Your a great speaker. I’ve bought thousands of BTC in the past. It is very costly for purchase, transfer fees, spending or payment processing. BTC is pushed and price manipulated by the rich. Once I figured that out, I sold all my BTC. People are gullible to buy a failed payment system and failed El Salvador currency. It’s not a store of value, most people invest or believe in a company or assets future, tell us who invented BTC, why would people pay big $$ for an unknown grandpa coin. Cosmos pays over 16% to stake on Coinbase. XRP cost a fraction of a cent per transaction. If you use BTC, you are simply wasting money on extremely high fees

[@pshyeah1128]

1:33 you’re welcome

[@luciferlight5082]

I didn't know being down 2 billion dollars on btc was considered a winning strategy.

[@xmonikerhotmailcom]

He is break even at this point.

[@thecryptobunker]

Its called zk rollups. That's the tech that proves it and it's being built on ethereum in mass.

[@bradleythompson8833]

Sounds like Saylor read Soft War

[@alexjwiegand]

Saylor and Jason Lowery sounding similar

[@kevalan1042]

Saylor never described bitcoin in warfare/military terms afaik

[@alexjwiegand]

@@kevalan1042 they both have views that it is beyond bit"coin" and will evolve into something more. Bit"coin" as money was the first obvious use case.

[@kevalan1042]

@@alexjwiegand true

[@chevchelios354]

👍💯👏👏👏👏🥂

[@au10666]

Saylor looks like an older version of Dan Bilezerian

[@brandonwillett9441]

What if this is an AI video of Micheal Saylor warning about AI videos of Michael Saylor 😂

[@thewarplayer2398]

If only the Lightning Network actually worked.

[@didactica9326]

Please elaborate how it doesn't work- I haven't explored it yet but plan to

[@matthew2752]

More interested in kaspa. Most exciting crypto that solves the trilema. Better than btc eth cardano etc

[@danmcnamara3287]

How can he say his stock is a good play. It’s down 65% from its high, just like bitcoin. Bitcoin is still trading below his average acquisition price, and his company market capitalization is under 4B, not 6B.

[@sandingo]

Amazon and Target accepting Bitcoin? i dont see this happening in the next 10

[@peaceandfreedomeconomics8984]

It's too unstable to work as a form of payment.

[@sandingo]

@@peaceandfreedomeconomics8984 its more stable than dollars, i know the inflation rate of bitcoin, i dont know how many dollars can be printed.

[@jagprototype8003]

Security network thats what bitcoin is.

[@organic723]

Swan to youtubers: try to convince them 3% fees is a good thing! Oh, and ruin the viewing experience for all.... by shilling us at the beginning of every video for way too long.