Michael Vick doesn't believe Lamar Jackson should take the max from Ravens | Ep. 62 | CLUB SHAY SHAY

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@ClubShayShay
@ClubShayShay Жыл бұрын
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@garialmarsh6721
@garialmarsh6721 Жыл бұрын
STOP TALKING ABOUT LAMAR JACKSON MONEY$ PERIOD!....YOU CAPPIN!
@TheBlkpaladin
@TheBlkpaladin Жыл бұрын
@@garialmarsh6721 yeah, no bull
@5000G-x2z
@5000G-x2z Жыл бұрын
When white players get paid none of this is talked about. Little often injured Christian McCaffrey had one good season in the third year of his contract they gave him the biggest running back contract in the league. No mention of building a team. I wonder if these dudes have been 🦝ing so long they don't realize they are 🦝ing. But it's pays very well. I get the logic. Vick was the first or one of the first 100 guys but he wasn't talking this way when he got paid. The owners are owners because they work together with unity. Players are players because they work against each other. Sad.
@5000G-x2z
@5000G-x2z Жыл бұрын
Lamar has representation. He has the same agent as Dak and Kirk cousins but he doesn't have to pay for it. He just follows what they did.
@garyspence2128
@garyspence2128 Жыл бұрын
@ Garial marsh This is America, bro. Money is the number 1 thing we talk about, whether it's Elon Musk, Kanye, movie stars, or sports stars. Where you been, my man. Money makes this world go round. Don't be naive about the real world. Mike Vick has earned the right. He played the game, and payed the price for making a bad choice. That mistake cost him some of the bag, so he knows!!
@DG-420
@DG-420 Жыл бұрын
Their fans will never forgive them if they let that man walk
@cliftonreid1198
@cliftonreid1198 Жыл бұрын
You 💯 right, I'm mad we don't have any real weapons around him other than Andrews (who is great btw). They had time to get him on a deal last year and have room for other positions
@lawsupreme2922
@lawsupreme2922 Жыл бұрын
Fans go walk with Lamar hate to say it
@omeeawakened
@omeeawakened Жыл бұрын
Any team lamar goes to if he leaves, will be my new favorite team. And I’ll go out of my way to make sure I watch all of his games
@ripclaybourne
@ripclaybourne Жыл бұрын
Yea we will. I already forgave em ahead of time.
@donniewarren8363
@donniewarren8363 Жыл бұрын
I’m not a Ravens fan, but they would literally be the most hated franchise ever if this happened.
@davoneallen4014
@davoneallen4014 Жыл бұрын
He needs to get the most he can get, the Ravens had plenty of time to put pieces around him on his rookie deal.
@kiwiboi8322
@kiwiboi8322 Жыл бұрын
Exactly .. Know how they do us. Dont max perform if you want to ✂
@nicholassimmonsthomas8504
@nicholassimmonsthomas8504 Жыл бұрын
Lamar has had 4 years to learn how to be a Quarterback 🤡🤡🤡🤡. Lol chokes in the playoffs ever since 🤡🤡🤡🤡. Imagine
@Remorsefullyhumble
@Remorsefullyhumble Жыл бұрын
@@nicholassimmonsthomas8504 ravens haven’t gotten him a real HC ,OC,and a WR1 put this team around any other qb and it’s even worse .stop with the casual nonsense
@Remorsefullyhumble
@Remorsefullyhumble Жыл бұрын
And didn’t unfortunately
@keymold4405
@keymold4405 Жыл бұрын
@@nicholassimmonsthomas8504 George lucas nerd thinks he knows football 🤡🤣🧂
@FoFo_FoReal
@FoFo_FoReal Жыл бұрын
The chiefs paid mahomes 3 years ago and have kept that roster intact. Not only that they've upgraded their o line, paid their best defenders, and could have had tyreek for another year but traded him for draft capital. All the while paying mahomes 40-50 mil a year.
@allgastrucking4954
@allgastrucking4954 Жыл бұрын
Facts we all know what this is about and why this is an issue, but in my belief once an organization or corporation fails you once, look for something else because they'll repeat the same ole trend because they know you will be tolerant. If I were Lamar I would get my money elsewhere, COWBOYS.
@theurbanboy7622
@theurbanboy7622 Жыл бұрын
It wasn’t fully guaranteed tho
@VinoBrown10
@VinoBrown10 Жыл бұрын
He should goto miami or Tampa
@nateb.6369
@nateb.6369 Жыл бұрын
Mahome's contract was restructured like 12 times and he will be hitting their cap probably after he retires in order to pay up the $$. It wasn't a fully guaranteed deal either. They lost Tyreek Hill due to his obscene contract. So no they did lose people. It just wasn't felt immediately. Lastly as a Ravens fan Lamar is not Pat Mahomes. He throws a dirty ball, but has a great football IQ. He may not be the best QB, but he is certainly franchise worthy. He isn't worth a fully guaranteed deal. I don't forsee a team paying him as such either. His amazing O-line and the teams great defense in 2019 has a lot to do with him winning the MVP. You need to understand this is a team sport; even if you are Lamar Jackson you need an O-line and solid defensive players. Baltimore has an excellent backup in Huntley if a deal isn't reached and who knows maybe that clears enough space for a solid WR.... (Highly doubt it though)
@chuckyc378
@chuckyc378 Жыл бұрын
@@nateb.6369 he would be mvp this year if the defense didn’t give up so many leads. Lamar has the worst Wide receiver room in the league
@123sirrap
@123sirrap Жыл бұрын
Nah I disagree with Vick on this one. The ravens had 5 years to get Lamar some talent while on his rookie contract and failed to do so. He’s no obligation to them to try to make his contract more team friendly just so they can sign another center/tight end
@ezjones3646
@ezjones3646 Жыл бұрын
Exactly smh
@larryjonnson8093
@larryjonnson8093 Жыл бұрын
Yes, Lamar should *"at least"* wait until the last possible minute before signing a contract with the Baltimore Ravens! I would wait and let every team that's interested, make an offer, then I would take a trip to meet with the Organization of the *"Highest Bid"* to talk about Lamar Jackson, Momma, Football, & Money! *"But",* I would not sign anyone's contracts until the last minute, of the last hour, of the last week before all players are to report to training camp! Make them All Sweat Lamar! *"The Handwriting Is On The Wall!"* ........... *"$300mil-5yrs-Fully Guaranteed"* .......... 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
@BiggKingsire
@BiggKingsire Жыл бұрын
Ok get him some help then now he’s still in the same position going to want max money and can’t keep the team together
@bodymore23
@bodymore23 Жыл бұрын
Lol talent since he’s been dude have a top 5 backfield top 5 TE core elite defense best ST top 5 coach and organization top5 online(outside of 2021) and 2 first round WR’s if everything gotta be perfect around you then you don’t need a top 10 QB to win with that....
@jpselfmade2396
@jpselfmade2396 Жыл бұрын
@@bodymore23 elite defense? You don’t even believe that. This man done had nothing but low tier wide receivers great tight ends and average running backs
@SMW34
@SMW34 Жыл бұрын
NFL contracts can be structured where a guy can get his market value yet still give the team flexibility to sign other guys. It's all the ownership to be willing sign a big check and put whatever remaining guaranteed money on the deal in an escrow. Also, there are thing like rolling guarantees that can free up cap space to sign others. It can get done.
@jasonhawn1908
@jasonhawn1908 Жыл бұрын
That comeback vick was 🔥... he was great on atl but crazy in Philly.. I'd listen to vick.. also it was cool he was on the steelers for a minute.. 🤑
@KameronN67
@KameronN67 Жыл бұрын
@2:24 if the Ravens didn't get Lamar quality WRs at any point on his rookie deal, why would anyone believe the Ravens would do it after paying him anything... A vast majority of the other young QBs get quality help at WR...
@jaron312
@jaron312 Жыл бұрын
You make a good point
@leetraviusmckay2919
@leetraviusmckay2919 Жыл бұрын
"I'll restructure my contract as long as y'all keep on giving me those signing bonuses" 💯😂
@jeffreyhurst7231
@jeffreyhurst7231 Жыл бұрын
Vick never really adds anything to the conversation.
@Biglongshoreman333
@Biglongshoreman333 Жыл бұрын
Glad mike Vick is doing well bro look healthy & happy 💯
@bignuts850
@bignuts850 Жыл бұрын
And his dog to
@deeznutz8320
@deeznutz8320 Жыл бұрын
@@bignuts850 Nah hè threw that pup to the wall
@minusx31
@minusx31 Жыл бұрын
Get as much money as you can…owners can vote to raise the salary cap but they never do…they wanna guilt the star players into taking less of the pie they want to offer…salary cap is designed to spread talent around across the league for balance anyway…its a career and job…if Lamar takes a pay cut thats a guarantee lost in money but not a guarantee win for a superbowl…teams wont put in a contract “Take this pay cut and if we dont win a superbowl we’ll pay you the money you gave up for trying to help the team”…
@MrCinti1980
@MrCinti1980 Жыл бұрын
The only reason he hasn’t gotten a new contract is because Lamar went against the grain and has his mother as his agent. Get all that money while you can
@jacobwillis6065
@jacobwillis6065 Жыл бұрын
Why even have yo mom be your agent tho??? Tell her go put her feet up and I’ll break u off wen I get the money having yo mom as your agent is childish and doin too much
@bigcockedman714
@bigcockedman714 Жыл бұрын
where is his dad @?
@lawsupreme2922
@lawsupreme2922 Жыл бұрын
@@bigcockedman714 pasted away n plenty players don’t have an agent
@We_God
@We_God Жыл бұрын
💯
@truthserum3960
@truthserum3960 Жыл бұрын
@@bigcockedman714 at home handling the financial side.
@Dreamchasingboxing
@Dreamchasingboxing Жыл бұрын
They had plenty of time on his rookie deal to build a championship roster. Not Lamar problem now, they didn't give him enough weapons on his rookie deal what assurances would he have they will while he getting paid?
@Telvo24
@Telvo24 Жыл бұрын
Honestly it’s either go for a championship or go for the money. That Team that the Ravens have is not championship material as it is.
@silverback7348
@silverback7348 Жыл бұрын
This is the greatest most concise breakdown of the debate.
@SuperSaltyYo64
@SuperSaltyYo64 Жыл бұрын
If they pay Lamar $300+ mil, they'll never see a championship.
@Telvo24
@Telvo24 Жыл бұрын
@@SuperSaltyYo64 I agree
@CertifiedPG
@CertifiedPG Жыл бұрын
@@SuperSaltyYo64 They have 2
@SuperSaltyYo64
@SuperSaltyYo64 Жыл бұрын
@@CertifiedPG and Lamar contributed to none of those
@thegoon3088
@thegoon3088 Жыл бұрын
I remember when Vick signed a 10 year 100 million $ contract and at the time it was the biggest contract in nfl history
@Himothy
@Himothy Жыл бұрын
If Baltimore doesn't pay LJ $250M fully guaranteed another team will, it's as simple as that.
@larryendrichiii1836
@larryendrichiii1836 Жыл бұрын
The browns made a bad business move. Don't think the Ravens or any other team would do what the browns did. They are a terrible franchise. Lamar should get 255 with 185-200 guarantee money.
@blackway643
@blackway643 Жыл бұрын
@@larryendrichiii1836 if he hits the FA market he’ll get 300 million. You’re crazy if you think he won’t.
@bignuts850
@bignuts850 Жыл бұрын
Good let him go
@newagain9964
@newagain9964 Жыл бұрын
@@larryendrichiii1836 yeah. Because the DET, HOU, DC…all but maybe 5 teams don’t need a prime time QB. 😂🤣😂
@waynehenson1094
@waynehenson1094 Жыл бұрын
@@bignuts850 I agree.
@robertgaumont5446
@robertgaumont5446 Жыл бұрын
Watson is 230 guaranteed not 250. Although it’s the most guaranteed, there are 3 QBs now that make more per year - Rodgers, Wilson and Murray. Their teams are 4-8, 3-8 and 4-8 and none of them will be smelling the playoff anytime soon. Vick wasn’t wrong when he said be careful with those big QB contracts because it makes it a lot harder to sign others. I think the Ravens can make it work because they have vets who’ve seen Lamar come up and will restructure for him but don’t expect that enthusiasm with every team.
@BigDilf3
@BigDilf3 Жыл бұрын
You said it like they way off😂😂
@dynastyfamily00
@dynastyfamily00 Жыл бұрын
Make what you're saying makes sense. A fully guaranteed contract, is fully guaranteed. I don't care how much any other quarterback makes per year, when they can be cut the following year and get nothing of the rest of it. Assuming what you're saying is true, 230 guaranteed is better than a billion on paper with 100 guaranteed
@cliftonjackson
@cliftonjackson Жыл бұрын
I think Lamar Jackson should get as much money as he can possibly get within reason because as Michael Vick mentioned, a max deal is going to hinder the Ravens ability to keep quality players around Lamar. I have never known Tom Brady to sign a max deal and in doing so has aided in keeping his respected teams competitive.
@foursup3139
@foursup3139 Жыл бұрын
He has
@dmorgs2384
@dmorgs2384 Жыл бұрын
Brady also had a super rich wife at the time
@cellaa70
@cellaa70 Жыл бұрын
Bady did get max deal than he started taking less money but not really less his contract was worked out differently it looked like he was taking less it was just cap friendly
@dallashanson_
@dallashanson_ Жыл бұрын
They had plenty of time to build the roster.
@dc-mw9fd
@dc-mw9fd Жыл бұрын
@@dmorgs2384 Has nothing to do with this convo
@jamespharris2494
@jamespharris2494 Жыл бұрын
Great conversation. Lamar has favor on his life. That doesn't come & go like wins & losses. Keep it moving with a balanced attitude Lamar!
@swanpapi7932
@swanpapi7932 Жыл бұрын
Crazy 🎉😅s huh we were a wee writer for we’re e it weîya😊😊 😊😊 I😮😮
@JonPaul404
@JonPaul404 Жыл бұрын
Easy for Vick to say. Vick was the 1st player to take 2 $100 mill contacts.
@bigbaggs1989
@bigbaggs1989 Жыл бұрын
Exactly he ain’t turn down one dollar
@onesession27
@onesession27 Жыл бұрын
Lamar is QB1 and RB1 for the team. Lamar has always been the Ravens leading rusher and passer while the Ravens continue to give him unproven guys at WR and slightly above average RBs that can't stay healthy and can't lead the team in rushing. Ravens need to pay him what he wants or trade him to a team that will.
@newagain9964
@newagain9964 Жыл бұрын
Ravens were considered to be one of the best run orgs…now are turning into a clown show. Can’t believe they still f with Roman 🤷‍♂️
@FuzzyStayBuzzin183
@FuzzyStayBuzzin183 Жыл бұрын
I keep telling people he won't be in Baltimore next year He's going to get his money it just ain't going to be from the Ravens.
@thatfantasynetwork132
@thatfantasynetwork132 Жыл бұрын
They will franchise tag him
@quincykhalifa
@quincykhalifa Жыл бұрын
280 mill from Raiders 🏴‍☠️
@thomassankara1391
@thomassankara1391 Жыл бұрын
Yeah he's outta there. They don't know how to build a roster. My Eagles had a Mobile QB (not as good as Lamar) Yet our Team is better than BAL has ever, and will ever be under Lamar Jackson. I'd be frustrated too. Hopefully he goes to a better organization.
@Mtownraven
@Mtownraven Жыл бұрын
Thomas sankara pump your brakes this eagles team is playing well, but not like that 2019 ravens team. Let see happens to the eagles when Hurts contract comes up.
@FuzzyStayBuzzin183
@FuzzyStayBuzzin183 Жыл бұрын
My other issue I don't know if it's Lamar or the coaching staff but they can't get him a true number one wide receiver nobody wants to go there why simple They want to catch the ball They don't want to block.
@dgilroy26
@dgilroy26 Жыл бұрын
I'd rather take less and have a chance to win. Look at GB giving their QB all that money
@andrewrout8712
@andrewrout8712 Жыл бұрын
It's not that they didn't believe in him after his MVP season, they just wanted to have him for the following three years at way under market value
@LP-wm3ey
@LP-wm3ey Жыл бұрын
They still would’ve had him at under market value it would been a contract extension. They should’ve got it done after year 3 like any normal organization now that they waited 3 years they’re gonna have to pay more. Stupid organization trying to win a contract negotiation with a qb pay the qb as early as possible the cap only goes up the quicker a deal gets done the cheaper it will be. Could’ve signed him the same time the bills paid Josh and been done with all this. Now the ravens will have to pay somewhere around $50M-$55M a year with around 75%-85% guaranteed when they could’ve had him at $40M a year costed themselves even more money by being penny pinchers.
@jasonhawn1908
@jasonhawn1908 Жыл бұрын
I like the " God did! " part Shannon sharpe 🔥.
@33ladyRAM
@33ladyRAM Жыл бұрын
Again, if the Ravens had offered Lamar $190M or $195M guaranteed, I truly believe Lamar would have taken the deal; however, we know the Ravens offered $250 with $133M guaranteed and why should Lamar take $56M less. Kyler got $189M guaranteed. I mean like dang why not give Lamar more than Kyler? The Ravens really messed up.
@silverback7348
@silverback7348 Жыл бұрын
Kyler and Watson deals are garbage. Stop comparing idiotic deals to competent deals as a baseline. I will say this. If Lamar leaves I can see Harbaugh also leaving. He was the first to put full faith in him and therefore his entire team when Lamar struggled.
@BigNorm87
@BigNorm87 Жыл бұрын
@@silverback7348 garbage but it sets the market.
@RichCinema
@RichCinema Жыл бұрын
@@silverback7348 Willy Beaman and Coach walk off to join another team together. That would be hilarious.
@anthonyanderson9303
@anthonyanderson9303 Жыл бұрын
@@silverback7348 Harbaugh had no choice. He was bout to be out of a job before Lamar took over the starting role.
@freeindeed8416
@freeindeed8416 Жыл бұрын
That was 133 at signing. It would have been about 190 million guaranteed
@billywilliams8378
@billywilliams8378 Жыл бұрын
It’s really funny how people say Lamar is worth or deserves 250M fully guaranteed but in the next breath talk about how he needs WR help. Watson put up 4800 yards with 33 TD and 7 INT with a garbage receiving corp. And while he doesn’t deserve the Browns offer LJ is comparing himself to that. He either shouldn’t need WR either or he asking too much. Can’t have it both ways.
@BKthoroughbred
@BKthoroughbred Жыл бұрын
At the time Texans had WR considered the best in the game-DeAndre Hopkins…..
@xavierrodriguez7938
@xavierrodriguez7938 Жыл бұрын
He definitely had nice receivers then but carry on
@billywilliams8378
@billywilliams8378 Жыл бұрын
@@BKthoroughbred Nope that was 2019. He was traded to ARZ before 2020 season.
@donnough2085
@donnough2085 Жыл бұрын
@@billywilliams8378 but D Hop was there to HELP him. Watson had quality receivers for most of his career in Houston.
@billywilliams8378
@billywilliams8378 Жыл бұрын
@@donnough2085 Yeah D Hop was there in previous seasons. He lost a top 5 receiver and then put up those numbers. Rodgers lost Adams and looks awful.
@bigface1005
@bigface1005 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been a ravens fan forever we loose Lamar I’m done with them bro 💯💯💯
@cairomayieu2140
@cairomayieu2140 Жыл бұрын
10 year 300M Fully Guaranteed (that’s 30M/yr which is a win-win for everyone)
@JacaboBlanco
@JacaboBlanco Жыл бұрын
3:00 what else does he need to do other than win an individual performance award? How about make a deep playoff run? That's not asking for much from a top 5 star qb right?
@dominics7565
@dominics7565 Жыл бұрын
Stop being greedy period. It’s football. lol. These guys have the best job in the world.
@kmp9232
@kmp9232 Жыл бұрын
If this guy Jackson is worth 250 mil with one playoff win, than flacco should have got 500mil.
@AdamsDuhStuff
@AdamsDuhStuff Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@almightypalevin8186
@almightypalevin8186 Жыл бұрын
I think he would be great in Atlanta. He could be the next Michael Vick down there. The city would go crazy.
@marquezsmith8889
@marquezsmith8889 Жыл бұрын
The ravens are used to doing it without a franchise QB... with the money Lamar is worth, they'll pay like 6 quality defensive players and keep it moving... Lamar will get paid, but I don't see Baltimore giving it to him
@wojo8881
@wojo8881 Жыл бұрын
Yea but Baltimore will have 5 game win seasons without him lol
@newagain9964
@newagain9964 Жыл бұрын
Doing what? Being mediocre. Harbs got lucky when Flacco caught lighting in bottle. They also had Jim Caldwell as OC. And not Greg Bum Roman.
@lordshivag
@lordshivag Жыл бұрын
Lamar should ask for the max, he's playing in a league where your career can be over in a second, get as much as you can while you there. Lamar is also asking for the max because he's having to do the most. The QB's who most recently signed deals aren't looking for max guaranteed but they also have better offensive teams. Kyler has Hopkins and MB, Russ has Sutton and Jeudy, Allen has Diggs and Davis. They all have top weapons to make they're job easier so they would consider taking less. Lamar having to be superman out here
@JamMaster0011
@JamMaster0011 Жыл бұрын
Those Jordans Shannon have on are 🔥
@cryptonous7320
@cryptonous7320 Жыл бұрын
Lamar > Vick go get your money #8
@coxb29
@coxb29 Жыл бұрын
The Cleveland Browns really screwed everything up by giving Watson that huge contract hahaha! 😂 Lamar is a way more accomplished QB but I will be SHOCKED if the Ravens give him more Guaranteed money 💰 than the Browns gave Watson.
@Gg-wh3vi
@Gg-wh3vi Жыл бұрын
And here is a thing, as a fan going back to the McNair days, Lamar can account for his salary and cover a lot of team weaknesses. Greg Roman helps but hurts you a lot more than he helps you. Lamar has been vocal about his complaints with Greg Roman since his second year starting (3rd in the league). And I believe this is a very crucial time in our organization. We have hired Keith Williams and Tee Martin, very well respected passing game coordinators over the past 2 years. Greg Roman has simply peaked. What is it going to take to pass the torch? We have shown we have a roster that can do it all this year. Does Baltimore continue to put its head in the sand or do we go all in?
@bronisthegoat8915
@bronisthegoat8915 Жыл бұрын
Harbaugh is to buddy buddy with Roman to make the necessary change that we can all see. I just pray that if he stays Lamar goes to a team that will play to his strengths and appreciate him.
@livennlearn
@livennlearn Жыл бұрын
Take maximum money. It is never on a player to try to get less so that their team wins more. The interesting question is how many millions is a superbowl worth risking? Say he takes a nice team friendly deal, and his team does not win a bowl or he gets hurt, who will reward him for that sacrifice? Its is insanely foolish to think that if you take a team friendly deal it guarantees success through victory by virtue of having a "better" team.
@dunkvondoom2392
@dunkvondoom2392 Жыл бұрын
I'm a Ravens fan, true Ravens fan not a Lamar fan & I respect a man for trying to get what he thinks he's worth but at the same time I feel he's kind of selfish cause this is a business meaning they have a team to look after not just one person, this is why I feel he won't leave cause I think Lamar is a stand up guy
@musculusiv4172
@musculusiv4172 Жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion, but these situations show if a player is more about winning a championship or more about making money. Not saying Lamar doesn't deserve what he demands but if you really want to win sometimes you need to be humble and not go for max money even you think you earned it. Even the Raven's low offer (about 170mil guaranteed and potential for up to 290mil) is still a crazy amount of money for any single human being to have, if you then still think you don't have enough money you're spoiled af. Now if he believes the Ravens can't or won't get him the teammates he needs to go all the way then he should leave the Ravens anyway regardless of the contract. Lamar's a superbowl caliber QB I really hope he makes the best decision for his future
@kingaustin6985
@kingaustin6985 Жыл бұрын
Lamar Jackson will get the contract he wants fully Guaranteed by either the Ravens or someone else
@danielbetancur1670
@danielbetancur1670 Жыл бұрын
The thing is I don’t know if I trust other franchises to use Lamar’s skill set properly. The Baltimore scheme is balanced perfectly to suit him
@zj4008
@zj4008 Жыл бұрын
It’s really not, well not anymore. Look at his college tape Lamar can run a different type of offense. Now coming into the league maybe that was the offense suited him best but he’s definitely a better QB now. It’s like Greg Roman is holding back the regins. Everyone with common sense can see the dude is elite. Just let him go out ball. Open up the system. Baltimore hasn’t tweaked their offensive game plan since his MVP year. Baltimore needs to get Lamar some weapons and just let him ball
@schwarzmann1
@schwarzmann1 Жыл бұрын
Just because he can run well doesn't mean he can't play in another system he's had games where he's dropped back 40+ times and been great and I'm 100% sure any other NFL team would be able to use his talents almost all the new OCs like mobile QBs and implement designed runs into their schemes
@Gamma_Labs
@Gamma_Labs Жыл бұрын
Me looking at ATL cap space next year... surely Baltimore would tag him twice before they let him walk though. If I'm LJ, I feel slighted that BAL isn't all in.
@darrelljackson1620
@darrelljackson1620 Жыл бұрын
Atlanta perfect for Lamar Jackson
@michaelrandall09
@michaelrandall09 Жыл бұрын
@@darrelljackson1620 I can see this working fr
@ronedward3660
@ronedward3660 Жыл бұрын
Since Lamr has had so much success against the NFC, I'd sign with an NFC team.
@brenhuncho2308
@brenhuncho2308 Жыл бұрын
Lol dude would be in the Super Bowl every other year fr
@newagain9964
@newagain9964 Жыл бұрын
NFC is soft af tho.
@camgill7543
@camgill7543 Жыл бұрын
GOD I LOVE MIKE
@averyfreeman6283
@averyfreeman6283 Жыл бұрын
Lamar, deserves the Max, he's proven himself. GO RAVENS !
@Allkindaoutside
@Allkindaoutside Жыл бұрын
He needs to get his money.
@Mr.International82
@Mr.International82 Жыл бұрын
I see or hear the curse of the new deal. Meaning once a lot of players get their deal they want while they’re hot and then don’t meet expectations performance wise teams then have that buyers remorse. Which brings me to the point that why don’t we see more contracts that are incentive based due to performance? Make players show teams they are worth the money they give them?
@newagain9964
@newagain9964 Жыл бұрын
Maybe. But then they should just trade him. Before he sells it or gets hurt. Right?
@worldmageRS3
@worldmageRS3 Жыл бұрын
Let lamar walk if he wants to walk. I really hope he doest but we all know he has had life changing offers. Its a team sport.
@DThimself
@DThimself Жыл бұрын
Nah the Ravens need to pay up because they should of used his rookie deal to put some talent around him other than Andrews, because if they didn't believe he was the guy they should of traded him
@bussomagic6369
@bussomagic6369 Жыл бұрын
We have won before Lamar and we will win after Lamar is gone. Trade him and get as much value for him. EDC make us proud
@We_God
@We_God Жыл бұрын
Vick said Baltimore like we was from Baltimore
@xDreMack
@xDreMack Жыл бұрын
He's from the DMV it's nearly the same
@flyguy9336
@flyguy9336 Жыл бұрын
@@xDreMack Bmore not apart of the DMV tho
@xDreMack
@xDreMack Жыл бұрын
@@flyguy9336 didn't say it was.
@Jusskilll
@Jusskilll Жыл бұрын
@@xDreMack n I can’t believe u allowed him to think he right wtf 😭
@elijahthompsonsr.7628
@elijahthompsonsr.7628 Жыл бұрын
I agree with Vick. He's good on money either way. Do you want to win or have a ton of money and get judged x20. Tom Brady never took the max if I remember correctly. he had bread and dude wanted to win.
@margaretgamble7862
@margaretgamble7862 Жыл бұрын
I like Lamar he is special ❤
@SoFlyBmOr3
@SoFlyBmOr3 Жыл бұрын
I was a ravens fan before Lamar and I'll be one after. Whether he stays or goes I hope he stays but if he doesn't I know they won't let him walk for free
@IFWTC
@IFWTC Жыл бұрын
Lamar Jackson is a Jet.
@slayer45637
@slayer45637 Жыл бұрын
Ravens have their philosophy. They’re going to invest in their defense, oline, and run the ball. It’s what they need to do to be competitive in the AFC north. Steelers are run the same way but they have an eye for WRs. Browns are built that way now and have had their most success. Bengals are fortunate they have stud qb in burrow to build around but even they have similar elements.
@keymold4405
@keymold4405 Жыл бұрын
Burrow was a nobody til they got chase
@weedsmoke86
@weedsmoke86 Жыл бұрын
@@keymold4405 he wasn't a nobody he was the number 1 pick in the draft lol
@keymold4405
@keymold4405 Жыл бұрын
@@weedsmoke86 ok?? He was terrible until chase
@weedsmoke86
@weedsmoke86 Жыл бұрын
@@keymold4405 He was a rookie and on his way to ROTY before he got hurt.
@keymold4405
@keymold4405 Жыл бұрын
@@weedsmoke86 no tf he wasn’t. This man had a 48 qbr his first season
@Supastackman
@Supastackman Жыл бұрын
He going to Tampa after Brady retire after the season just wait.
@PopsSoda
@PopsSoda Жыл бұрын
Vick was spot on. All of it.
@kingroyalty9621
@kingroyalty9621 Жыл бұрын
Vick who had 2 different max contracts with 2 different teams
@AdamsDuhStuff
@AdamsDuhStuff Жыл бұрын
With Jackson 's new knee injury, this video aged well.
@certifiedchaos4643
@certifiedchaos4643 Жыл бұрын
They have to sign Lamar asap. However the Ravens gave max dollars to joe Flacco and it cost them dearly. Joe Flacco won the superbowl and the superbowl mvp. The ravens broke that team up and they had some struggles. Then a few years later they drafted a new qb
@therealchristaholic
@therealchristaholic Жыл бұрын
Unc Shan & Bro Vick 🔥🔥
@aking2330
@aking2330 Жыл бұрын
Lamar deserve that money but he need a offense that allows the field to open up more. I say he need to be with the Giants for real, think Daboll would make a difference
@howardhenry435
@howardhenry435 Жыл бұрын
Vick is obviously an agent. How could you not want a brother to get the max?????????
@daevonthesavage7483
@daevonthesavage7483 Жыл бұрын
Because if the QB gets all the money, what quality players are you gonna be able to put around him to win if they gotta get the bag too??
@newagain9964
@newagain9964 Жыл бұрын
@@daevonthesavage7483 what quality players they have last 4.5 years and where has it gotten them? What did those “quality” players do when Lamar went out last yr… lost 1 seed and all gms
@williebeetv6379
@williebeetv6379 Жыл бұрын
Forget them super bowls get yo money man! If they happen they happen but the organization gone get they money so make sure you get yours.
@Leonjaes32
@Leonjaes32 Жыл бұрын
He deserves the money regardless ravens need to figure it out
@Kingdizzleltdinc615
@Kingdizzleltdinc615 Жыл бұрын
The ? Is if you LaMar would take the max with the Ravens or another team with a better roster constructed?
@jordanmanning6348
@jordanmanning6348 Жыл бұрын
I feel that vick been saying that ravens offense. 💯
@tonjabowman7208
@tonjabowman7208 Жыл бұрын
Man Lamar need to get his money if with the ravens or without. They showed their dedication to Greg Roman. They offered Lamar 250 and offered 133 million gaurenteed . Less then Russ and Kyler. Why would Lamar take less he is the quarterback and the leading rusher he doing 2 jobs and they never gave him wide receiver help . I want Lamar here in Baltimore but we love him here and would rather see him get everything they need around him once Lamar get a number one receiver it over . Don't give the ravens no breaks they carried this situation grimy while Lamar smiles and still stayed respectful. Because i know it hurts all this winning he did with less . He promised us a superbowl but i know Lamar wouldn't have thought the ravens wouldn't give him the help he needed to get there . SMH
@paulisconi2264
@paulisconi2264 Жыл бұрын
If the ravens play like this with Lamar on a rookie deal, then we'll never have a winning record if we pay him 50M
@Finnissee0122
@Finnissee0122 Жыл бұрын
No the front office is the problem. They could’ve traded & paid a Vet WR to come. They choose to ignore the WR room and stick with their run 1st mentality.
@Dizzle4703
@Dizzle4703 Жыл бұрын
Every year Lamar played we made the playoffs he got hurt last year we went 1-8 😂😂😂
@josephjohnson1057
@josephjohnson1057 Жыл бұрын
Vick has a point. LJ8 has held this team together with duct tape and scissors. If he sucks up all the cap space, he'll be playing with high schoolers.
@bronisthegoat8915
@bronisthegoat8915 Жыл бұрын
@@Dizzle4703Not even worth it these idiots think Huntley is a good replacement when he barley mustered 1 win last year lol. I hope Lamar leaves so these idiots can once again see how bad the ravens are without him, and he can go somewhere he will be appreciated and valued.
@dennisbryant595
@dennisbryant595 Жыл бұрын
Lamar Jackson is 44 and 16 and the season is not over with l facts
@vh2712
@vh2712 Жыл бұрын
He's not on Mahommes level so nope he's not getting that max contract.
@yhwhoshuabenyisrael235
@yhwhoshuabenyisrael235 Жыл бұрын
He's better!!
@trendexposure7799
@trendexposure7799 Жыл бұрын
@@yhwhoshuabenyisrael235L
@newagain9964
@newagain9964 Жыл бұрын
Mahommes wouldn’t do nothing without Andy Reid. Stop it. He’d be a Herbert..sub .500 and all hype.
@Rockboee
@Rockboee Жыл бұрын
@@newagain9964 first y’all said he nothing without hill,, now it Reid?? Y’all keep moving goalpost!! Reid not running for first down and not throwing ball champ!!
@newagain9964
@newagain9964 Жыл бұрын
@@Rockboee nah bro. I didnt say anything about hill. U got the wrong person. Don’t act like mahoomes would have similar success if he was on HOU or even DC.
@tronwilliams8781
@tronwilliams8781 Жыл бұрын
Lamar wants a fully guaranteed contract more than Watson. The ravens owner said he will never give any player a fully guaranteed contract and that the Cleveland Browns are the Cleveland Browns for a reason. He is saying they did a stupid contract doesn't mean he has to. Their were reports other owners around the league hated what the Browns did and they don't want this to turn into the norm of signing guys to fully guaranteed contract.
@ravenron9154
@ravenron9154 Жыл бұрын
I want Lamar to get paid but if we dont have WR pieces now, how he gets weapons after a huge deal
@GrazianoTony
@GrazianoTony Жыл бұрын
I feel that, but I also think that the ravens know this as well, I’m sure they have something up there sleeve
@theurbanboy7622
@theurbanboy7622 Жыл бұрын
Lamar hasn’t had a good game since week 3-4 .. him missing open targets , turning the ball over isn’t helping his case
@oaklandtraphouse
@oaklandtraphouse Жыл бұрын
Even mike was at one time the leagues highest paid player
@newagain9964
@newagain9964 Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Vick out of pocket. And he First player to get TWO $100M contracts I believe.
@reallife0728
@reallife0728 Жыл бұрын
YOU CANT OFFER LAMAR $133 GUARANTEED AFTER KYLER MURRAY GOT $189M GUARANTEED!!!! I WOULD TAKE $200M GUARANTEED!!!!
@wesleywingate2921
@wesleywingate2921 Жыл бұрын
They offered Lamar $190 guaranteed
@reallife0728
@reallife0728 Жыл бұрын
@@wesleywingate2921 YOUR WRONG,,,,THE REPORT WAS $200M CONTRACT W/$133M GUARANTEED!!!!!
@whobilly1
@whobilly1 Жыл бұрын
This is the fourth full season with Lamar. The offense no longer strikes fear into opponents. Lamar is one of the most exciting electrifying player in the NFL. He's just not a top QB. A QB who is looking for fully guaranteed money at 45/50 million a year continues to overthrow receivers, short throw receivers, and still is far to inconsistent. The Ravens will win their fair share of regular season games but will not lift a Lombardi with Lamar. Balee dhat.
@Finnissee0122
@Finnissee0122 Жыл бұрын
Subtract Lamar and they’d be looking at missing the playoffs again this year.
@gabec6522
@gabec6522 Жыл бұрын
Get all your money who cares about the wins and loses
@heathavery7892
@heathavery7892 Жыл бұрын
I'm just happy to see the big still loves the city of Atlanta I mean home of course we I didn't make the decisions to get rid of him the fans don't get to do that unfortunately then again I also love Ridder , great guy and he is going to prove it then again Lamar is ....well I wouldn't mind signing him to Falcons. Please people don't jump me for this I'm just saying , it's a whole new production in Atl.
@leetraviusmckay2919
@leetraviusmckay2919 Жыл бұрын
It's either go for the championship or go for the money because the Ravens as a whole aren't built like a championship contender.
@jdajayi92
@jdajayi92 Жыл бұрын
I can't wait for Lamar to find a better organization that will actually support him. There's gonna be a substantial exodus from the Ravens fanbase to wherever he goes.
@omensoffate
@omensoffate Жыл бұрын
Lamar isn’t that good
@Mblk_45
@Mblk_45 Жыл бұрын
Bro I’m a super Lamar fan and I’ve defended him time after time but he’s not a good passer at all he constantly misses deep throws that would have been touchdowns
@solomo3456
@solomo3456 Жыл бұрын
@@omensoffate put the dope down
@newagain9964
@newagain9964 Жыл бұрын
@@Mblk_45 ok. So trade him. Now. Before he sucks or gets hurt. But you won’t cause u know you’re lying.
@Mblk_45
@Mblk_45 Жыл бұрын
@@newagain9964 lying about what??
@Andrew-3445
@Andrew-3445 Жыл бұрын
There's no incentive to stay like the NBA has where they can get a much larger contract to stay versus leaving. He will get franchise tagged this offseason and possibly the next after that. He should leave if they can't build a better team around him in the next few years.
@fw9753
@fw9753 Жыл бұрын
Always take the Max and let the organization build around you !! Michael Vick's decisions cost him millions and a hall of fame career !!
@antoniobrown8726
@antoniobrown8726 Жыл бұрын
Every time somebody take a big deal they disappear so after this you'll never hear from him again
@iPillCosby23
@iPillCosby23 Жыл бұрын
Come to Seattle @LamarJackson
@Malitubee
@Malitubee Жыл бұрын
He’s coming to the Falcons! The city will welcome him with open arms. The second coming of Mike Vick . Ticket sales will be insane
@Job.Well.Done_01
@Job.Well.Done_01 Жыл бұрын
I hope this happens. I don’t think it will though .
@Iamhimbutyouarenot
@Iamhimbutyouarenot Жыл бұрын
Doubt it heavily.
@itsascaryworld9788
@itsascaryworld9788 Жыл бұрын
Negative, I hope the lions sign him for the amounts money he wants so he can lose every game
@Malitubee
@Malitubee Жыл бұрын
@@itsascaryworld9788 You strange
@itsascaryworld9788
@itsascaryworld9788 Жыл бұрын
@@Malitubee nah, he wants his money only. Lions will give him the money he wants.
@josephclaggett488
@josephclaggett488 Жыл бұрын
PraisetheLord! all people . Trust God's Word over Man's Word unless his words are coming from the Lord.
@Dipset415
@Dipset415 Жыл бұрын
Naw I need that max professional sports is rigged no discounts homie💯
@baseballjourneywiththecald9492
@baseballjourneywiththecald9492 Жыл бұрын
He gotta get WINS though I love Lamar Game but he has to make those elite passes and win games that matter!!
@russellgilbert3453
@russellgilbert3453 Жыл бұрын
Baltimore, pay that man his money! 💰
@TheASU011
@TheASU011 Жыл бұрын
Lamar need to go to Saints he can fit right in. He gotta get pass first round of playoffs to get the max from them even tho he took them to playoffs every year he been there but ig it's not enough. He gotta treat it like a business they don't wanna pay up go else where
@toneybeasley2390
@toneybeasley2390 Жыл бұрын
never should say what a man should not get are get!
@seroyalty1
@seroyalty1 Жыл бұрын
the Ravens didn’t get him a number 1 receiver cause they can’t …no one wants to play with him
@GildedWarrior331
@GildedWarrior331 Жыл бұрын
Lamar will get a much as possible but this what the ravens are trying to prevent but he does a nice chunk of the cap
@marcusrhill
@marcusrhill Жыл бұрын
For the same reasons they say he should have an agent, it's smart af to not have 1 and represent yourself. The team has to either lie to your face or tell the truth about how they really feel about u.
@newagain9964
@newagain9964 Жыл бұрын
But why give up a fat cut of your payday? It’s open source info an agent uses to negotiate after all.
@marcusrhill
@marcusrhill Жыл бұрын
@@newagain9964 huh?
@keldel4363
@keldel4363 Жыл бұрын
"The man who represents himself has a fool for a client" The team has entire law firms working for it. This is not a game.
@keldel4363
@keldel4363 Жыл бұрын
​@@newagain99643% is not a fat cut.😏
@marcusrhill
@marcusrhill Жыл бұрын
@@keldel4363 stfu tryna sound smart. Lamar ain't doing it alone
@jaron312
@jaron312 Жыл бұрын
I like Vick but even he knows he’d take the max
@JohnDoe-zc4wk
@JohnDoe-zc4wk Жыл бұрын
Facts but he a Uncle Tom
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