Loved the comment on the margin “Fermat could not use” ( for his unknown demonstration so far; unless a piece of paper from back then once pops up)
@winky321748 ай бұрын
I love when difficult limits simplify so nicely!
@pietropellegrini79268 ай бұрын
I don't know of you remember but you have already done a video on this problem... It was question B5 in the 2004 Putnam
@MichaelPennMath8 ай бұрын
I realized this after recording, but I decided to post since someone emailed the suggestion in.
@gp-ht7ug8 ай бұрын
Me too i noticed it had already been published but I always like this limit
@gp-ht7ug8 ай бұрын
Me too i noticed it had already been published but I always like this limit
@krisbrandenberger5448 ай бұрын
@ 14:14 The numerator should have x^m, not x^(m+1).
@Hiltok8 ай бұрын
Good spot.
@neilgerace3558 ай бұрын
3:42 😆
@Xv8M4g3r6 ай бұрын
Why does this not end up a L=1 by substituting x=1 into the original formula? x^z for x=1 is just 1 regardless of z. So everything inside of the infinite product just cancels to 1 (no longer depending on n). The product of an infinite number of 1s is just 1 so L=1. I've obviously missed something, but I can't see what?
@LuqmanEinstein8 ай бұрын
Professor,Can you talk about geometry problems? I am so weak in that Field, please:)
@bjornfeuerbacher55148 ай бұрын
He already did lots of geometry problems in older videos, look around on his channel.
@LuqmanEinstein8 ай бұрын
Thank you my brother
@Noam_.Menashe8 ай бұрын
I don't know why but this seems familiar.
@nirajmehta42648 ай бұрын
i think he did this problem before, or a similar one.
@rafaelalcala69396 ай бұрын
Can someone explain better why does the series converge ar 14:38 ? Or a better explanation of whats happening hee?
@chrayma8 ай бұрын
So beautiful !!
@JRabba19958 ай бұрын
Can someone explain why the infinite product cant be evaluated at x=1 and get a limit of 1? I guess it has to do with the continuity but it is not obvious to me why it is not continuous
@bjornfeuerbacher55148 ай бұрын
If you evaluate it at x = 1, you get an infinite product 1 times 1 times 1 times ..., i. e. 1 to the power of infinity. And that's not defined.
@JRabba19958 ай бұрын
@@bjornfeuerbacher5514 the exponentiation is performed inside the product and the exponent would also be 1 after evaluation
@aniruddhvasishta83348 ай бұрын
To add onto another reply, 1^infty is an indeterminate form that can take on different values depending on how the limit is approached. For a canonical example, note that lim n->infty (1+1/n)^n = e. Doing it the usual way you'd think that the part in parentheses goes to 1 and the exponent goes to infinity and you might think it's 1, but that's not how all limits work.
@JRabba19958 ай бұрын
@@aniruddhvasishta8334 i would agree except that in this case the exponent does not tend to infty if x=1
@aniruddhvasishta83348 ай бұрын
@@JRabba1995 I'm not sure I understand. There is no x in my limit?
@viggo21128 ай бұрын
Bros hairline has an infinite limit
@LucaHerrtti8 ай бұрын
Hi prof, I was reading this article An Elementary Proof of the Strong Law of Large Numbers by N. Etemadi, but had troubles to understand from eq 6 on. I was wondering if you could make a video on it!
@goodplacetostop29738 ай бұрын
16:42
@CamEron-nj5qy8 ай бұрын
Lowercase Pi in the thumbnail had me confused for a second
@iithomepatnamanojsir8 ай бұрын
Very nice sir
@markmajkowski95458 ай бұрын
The x~1- ^n to infinity seems to require something more formal since 1^N = 1
@Hiltok8 ай бұрын
There is a difference between limit as n goes to infinity of ( limit as x approaches 1 from below of x )^n = ( 1 )^n = 1 and limit as n goes to infinity of ( limit as x approaches 1 from below of of (x^n) ) = 0. Any instance of x is strictly less than 1 despite the limit being equal to one. As the power goes to infinity, anything less than exact equality of x with 1 sees the result go to zero.
@markmajkowski95458 ай бұрын
Seems to require more than an assertion - plus then this function would seem to have discontinuity at 1 or Lim approaches 1+ which seems of interest.
@ПендальфСерый-б3ф8 ай бұрын
For any x1- , we get 0.
@Hiltok8 ай бұрын
@@markmajkowski9545 At x=1, the product collapses to just 1. i.e. product for n=0 to infinity of (2/2)^(1^n) = (1^1)^N as N goes to infinity = 1 since the base is now exactly 1. For x approaches 1 from above, the base is strictly >1 and the power (x^n) goes to infinity, so the total product blows up to infinity.
@Happy_Abe8 ай бұрын
Can someone explain @15:40?
@ibaijurado2798 ай бұрын
yeah pls
@idjles8 ай бұрын
@@ibaijurado279he breaks it into A/m + B/(m+1) and ends up With well-known (1-1/2+1/3-1/4…=ln 2) (oscillating harmonic series) with some coefficients, and a change of index to get the 1.
@IoT_8 ай бұрын
@@ibaijurado279you can use PFE \frac{(-1)^{m + 1}}{m(m + 1)} = \frac{-1}{m} + \frac{-1}{m + 1} And after use the Taylor series of ln(1+x) twice. That's it
@bjornfeuerbacher55148 ай бұрын
Do you know how partial fraction decomposition works? If yes, that step is easily done; if no, it requires a longer explanation. ;)
@Happy_Abe8 ай бұрын
@@bjornfeuerbacher5514 I do, but it’s a sum not an integral
@OlympiadProblemsolving8 ай бұрын
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@trippia68658 ай бұрын
Right now I'm taking a multivariable calculus course in uni and i have a question about this sort of problems in general. How can I decide on what substitutions, change of variables or any changes on the product/sum/integral/limit that I have in a problem like the ones you solve in the channel in order to proceed? While you're solving the problems the changes are so clear and easy to understand because of the structure of the expression but when I'm faced with different problems I don't always know what I should do. Is there a better way to learn how I can think of these changes by myself? Some examples could be like when you integrate under the sum, the 0'th integral or contour integration. How could i determine which technique is the best for the problem other than when there's a very obvious solution?
@emperorOfMustard8 ай бұрын
I knew that e would pop up just from the statement...
@farfa29378 ай бұрын
Series being able to be doms and subs implies the existance of switch series
@whonyx66808 ай бұрын
You could have just used the taylor series of the logarithm, no point in transforming it into an integral.
@divisix0248 ай бұрын
To top it off, the way he did it is basically just deriving the Taylor series of the logarithm
@unknownstoneageman818 ай бұрын
🔥
@gabrielcampello78368 ай бұрын
great
@selimakar72018 ай бұрын
Good job Mr Penn
@markmajkowski95458 ай бұрын
That’s what he said - but I seems to warrant a more extensive proof than the assertion since x less than 1 - raising to infinite power gives 0. That FEELS like an indeterminate form in need of another step or two as proof. If such out there maybe you know where to look. Thanks
@Cinnabar_Rhubarb8 ай бұрын
There's no indeterminate form since, inside the N limit, x is not changing at all. If you had something like (1 + 1/n)^n, then the base is approaching 1 at the same time as the exponent is growing large, which leads to an indeterminate form. Here, x^n is saying "take a fixed base
@asifkarim758 ай бұрын
Your video always helps me to understand the physics and mathematics, thanks