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Michael Penn

Michael Penn

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@hyperboloidofonesheet1036
@hyperboloidofonesheet1036 19 күн бұрын
12=1²+2² (base 3)
@johnchessant3012
@johnchessant3012 19 күн бұрын
Fun fact: 1/17 = 0.05882353 (when rounded) and 588^2 + 2353^2 = 5882353
@pierreabbat6157
@pierreabbat6157 18 күн бұрын
I was once in a meeting about a battery charger, which measured voltage from 0 to 15 in 255 equal steps. It had a threshold of something like 9.4 volts, and I rattled off 9.4117647, and the others wondered where I got all those digits from. 9412 works instead of 588 in the equation.
@stickfiftyfive
@stickfiftyfive 18 күн бұрын
@MyOneFiftiethOfADollar That's pretty presumptive of you.. maybe they just shared it because it relates to the video in a sense, they found it interesting, and figured that we, people interested in math, might also find it interesting. Meanwhile you have shared nothing worthwhile in this thread, except for alerting us to your tendency to be rude to people for no reason. 😂
@stickfiftyfive
@stickfiftyfive 18 күн бұрын
@@MyOneFiftiethOfADollar My parents are dead.
@stickfiftyfive
@stickfiftyfive 18 күн бұрын
@ you. Thank you for demonstrating my point. My parents are neither here nor there, and you have the social and communication skills of an asphalt slab.
@shruggzdastr8-facedclown
@shruggzdastr8-facedclown 17 күн бұрын
I wonder if it would be possible to construct a 17-gon* with this math factoid? See Numberphile's* videos on the constructa(-i-)bility of 17-gons, ftg Prof. Eisenbud (*on both the main Numberphile channel and Numberphile2)
@minamagdy4126
@minamagdy4126 18 күн бұрын
An even more general equation here is, for 0
@pepebriguglio6125
@pepebriguglio6125 18 күн бұрын
0.05882353 ≈ 1/17 and 5882353 = 588²+2353² Where: 2353² is 1/17 of: 94122353 = 9412²+×2353²
@mrgold4678
@mrgold4678 18 күн бұрын
I suggest looking into the similar problem: x1…xny1…yn = (x1…xn + y1…yn)^2 Didn’t tried it myself, but coming 2025 is a solution! 2025 = (20 + 25)^2
@hxc7273
@hxc7273 19 күн бұрын
1233 and 8833 new favorite numbers
@miraj2264
@miraj2264 18 күн бұрын
At 5:20, he explains this in greater detail here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lYfGdpehd791g8k You can factor 10,001 into 137 and 73. These are both primes of the form 4k+1, which means you can uniquely represent each of these primes as the sum of two squares. They're small enough you can just guess it. Importantly, if two numbers can be expressed as the sum of squares, than their product can be as well (note that you don't have uniqueness anymore). This can be seen by FOILing: (a^2 + b^2)(c^2 + d^2) = (ac - bd)^2 + (ad + bc)^2 So applying this formula to 10,001: 10,001 = 137*73 = (11^2 + 4^2)(8^2 + 3^2) = (11*8 - 4*3)^2 + (11*3 + 4*8)^2 = (88-12)^2 + (33+32)^2 = 76^2 + 65^2 or 10,001 = 137*73 = (4^2 + 11^2)(8^2 + 3^2) = (4*8 - 11*3)^2 + (4*3 + 11*8)^2 = (32-33)^2 + (12+88)^2 = 1^2 + 100^2
@Happy_Abe
@Happy_Abe 19 күн бұрын
I think we get only possibilities for the sum of squares decomposition because these numbers 10001 and 145 are a product of two primes
@konraddapper7764
@konraddapper7764 7 күн бұрын
You are one Word of one the factors should be a gausian Prime
@Bodyknock
@Bodyknock 19 күн бұрын
So using the generalization, there are no solutions with two digits numbers (base 10). 101 = 10² + 1² is the only factorization, and there are no integer solutions for 2A - 10 = +/-10 or +/- 1 with 0
@stickfiftyfive
@stickfiftyfive 18 күн бұрын
I looked at the problem generalized in a different way (but only in base ten) out of curiosity. 12^2 + 33^2 = 1233 88^2 + 33^2 = 8833 990^2 + 100^2 = 990100 9412^2 + 2353^2 = 94122353 17650^2 + 38125^2 = 1765038125 25840^2 + 43776^2 = 2584043776 I'll fix this algorithm too, if I can. It's too slow.
@stephenyip5827
@stephenyip5827 19 күн бұрын
Can anyone help to share back the video to express any integer to sum of two square mentioned in video?
@ozguryldrm64
@ozguryldrm64 19 күн бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/lYfGdpehd791g8ksi=w5mtpQGMW4uo5n14
@MyOneFiftiethOfADollar
@MyOneFiftiethOfADollar 17 күн бұрын
@@stephenyip5827 that is in every number theory textbook ever written. Consider learning to read and comprehend. Good Luck
@coc235
@coc235 8 күн бұрын
​@@MyOneFiftiethOfADollarWhy are you spending time on youtube and not reading then?
@dan-florinchereches4892
@dan-florinchereches4892 19 күн бұрын
I greatly appreciate your videos professor Penn. Can we please have the link to splitting a number into perfect squares in the video description as you said it exists in one of your older posts. Thank you
@shruggzdastr8-facedclown
@shruggzdastr8-facedclown 17 күн бұрын
Um, isn't the "12/twelve" in base-12 actually expressed graphically as "10" (say "one-zero" in your head rather than "ten" so as to avoid confusion) with ten and eleven being expressed using singular letters or other graphic symbols for each ("A" for ten, and "B" for eleven as one common method -- and "X" for ten, and "Ɛ" for eleven with respect to another common method)?
@falkranduhm10
@falkranduhm10 19 күн бұрын
Is it just a coincidence or do the two solutions for A add up to the base every time?
@petersievert6830
@petersievert6830 18 күн бұрын
not a coincidence at all: 2A - b = +-x results in A1 = b/2 + x and A2 = b/2 - x, thus A1 + A2 = b
@aleksmich8928
@aleksmich8928 19 күн бұрын
Wow!!! That is amazing, since I was thinking of this problem (the 4-digit one) as a candidate for math contest organized by KTU (Kaunas University of Technology, Lithuania). I settled on a similar one i.e. find all 4-digit xyzw such that xyzw = (xy + zw)^2. Maybe you could make a video of the solution to that one in a month. Our contest will take place on Jan. 25-th.
@notnr
@notnr 18 күн бұрын
How do we know that A & B are greater than 0 and less than 100?
@gileadedetogni9054
@gileadedetogni9054 18 күн бұрын
Because they are two digit numbers
@notnr
@notnr 17 күн бұрын
@@gileadedetogni9054 thank you
@gileadedetogni9054
@gileadedetogni9054 17 күн бұрын
@notnr you're welcome bro :)
@CautionRamen
@CautionRamen 19 күн бұрын
For the base b case, why is it Ab + B, and not A(b^n) + B?
@rainerzufall42
@rainerzufall42 18 күн бұрын
More general! A and B are not interested in the number base! The number of digits is only distracting, wlog we can consider 1-digit numbers!
@CautionRamen
@CautionRamen 18 күн бұрын
@rainerzufall42Are you saying we can think of A and B as one symbol rather than an n-digit number. Like if A was 25, would it mean to think of ‘25’ as a single character, kinda like F in hexadecimal?
@rainerzufall42
@rainerzufall42 18 күн бұрын
@@CautionRamen A is xy and B is zw, just for naming conventions. It's either a block of digits or a single digit, but that doesn't matter for this problem: We are putting equal length strings of digits together and compare the value to the sum of both strings squared (the base doesn't change a thing either, as long there's no overflow and carry). So to make the problem as simple as possible, we can skip any considerations about multi-digit strings, we can use single-digit numbers to solve the problem. It will immedietely work for concatenated digits. In your example, it doesn't matter, if A is "15" (base 10) or "F" (hexadecimal), the problem is the same!
@CautionRamen
@CautionRamen 18 күн бұрын
@rainerzufall42 So is considering x₁…x_n as one digit what you mean? Like if A = 25 (base 10) and B = 50 (base 10), does considering ‘25’ as a single digit in base 100, and ‘50’ as a single digit in base 100 equivalent?
@CautionRamen
@CautionRamen 18 күн бұрын
Sorry I’m asking so many questions, I just find it confusing
@talberger4305
@talberger4305 19 күн бұрын
10:00 b need to be b^n
@DavidSavinainen
@DavidSavinainen 19 күн бұрын
No, the base in question is indeed b. In his first example, b = 100, and in the slight generalisation, b = 10ⁿ.
@jorgechavesfilho
@jorgechavesfilho 18 күн бұрын
No. Note that he wrote at the beginning “In base, b 0 < A,B < b”. In other words, it's a different approach to the previous base 10 resolution. In this approach, you have to think that in the previous problem, base 100 would be used.
@Exarchate
@Exarchate 13 күн бұрын
This could definitely have been made clearer. For instance in base 100, the number 8833 is expressed as a 2-digit number: (88)(33). And it is of course still equal to 88^2+33^2 (as this fact doesn't depend on the base). So he is finding one-digit solutions in base b=c^n where c is the true base of the given initial numbers. Now it's still fuzzy to me why a solution in base b always remains a solution when expressed in base c.
@maxhagenauer24
@maxhagenauer24 19 күн бұрын
No the thumbnail is not true. 25 ≠ 2^2 + 5^2.
@TheEternalVortex42
@TheEternalVortex42 19 күн бұрын
True in base 12
@maxhagenauer24
@maxhagenauer24 19 күн бұрын
@TheEternalVortex42 But we always assume base 10 when not being said it's base 12 like in the thumbnail, so it's still wrong.
@stickfiftyfive
@stickfiftyfive 18 күн бұрын
The video explains how to generalize to other bases, so if you watched the video, you can see it's a clever way to check if we're paying attention and to catalyze views and engagement. Based on the content of the video, you would be wrong to assume the equation is in base 10.
@maxhagenauer24
@maxhagenauer24 18 күн бұрын
@stickfiftyfive I did watch the video and actually didn't see much explination into generalizing to other bases even in the end. But it's still true that the thumbnail is wrong because we always assume base 10 unless told otherwise.
@stickfiftyfive
@stickfiftyfive 18 күн бұрын
Ok
@PetraKann
@PetraKann 19 күн бұрын
So 2^2 = 0. ?????
@samueldeandrade8535
@samueldeandrade8535 19 күн бұрын
Base 12. 25 in base 12 is 29, which is equal to 2²+5². Great thumbnail, huh?
@hello_hi1
@hello_hi1 19 күн бұрын
This is a comment
@undercoveragent9889
@undercoveragent9889 17 күн бұрын
This is _not_ a comment and thus your comment is cancelled out.
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