Faster way: from (a+6)^2=4*a*b a is clearly even, and divides (a+6)^2, hence a|36. This leaves only a=2,4,6,12,18,36. We can check easily these, or using that 4 does not divide a we get that a=2,6,18 and all of these are the solutions.
@fansuli4273 жыл бұрын
yes
@f5673-t1h3 жыл бұрын
To add more words to your solution: a|36 because reducing the equation mod a gives 6^2 is congruent to 0 mod a.
@gaeb-hd4lf3 жыл бұрын
Nice 👌🏽
@Tiqerboy3 жыл бұрын
I did end up getting a = 2, 6 and 18 and I saw that nothing else would work, but I needed a calculator to work out b in all three cases. If you do that you get b= 14, 12 and 14. So the three solutions (a,b) are (2,14), (6,12) and (18,14) I'm guessing for these kinds of problems, a calculator is not allowed.
@ricardocavalcanti33433 жыл бұрын
@@Tiqerboy You should buy a new calculator. :-) The solutions are (a,b) = (2,8), (6,6) and (18,8).
@ConradAdamsMrJUMBO3 жыл бұрын
Wow, what a nice surprise! I've never thought that something I suggested would get featured in a video.🤓 thanks Michael...
@6d16chanyaukievanzkenith43 жыл бұрын
Nicee
@zeravam3 жыл бұрын
Congrats! I'm still waiting the exercise I suggested to Michael. Patience is a virtue I have
@tomatrix75253 жыл бұрын
Nice problem
@loglnlg3 жыл бұрын
When approximately did you suggest this problem? I'm just asking to have a glimpse idea about time of considering viewers problems
@adamswilliam34623 жыл бұрын
@@loglnlgI think it took at least a few (3-4) weeks!😂 and yes, I have three accounts. 📱🖥📲
@goodplacetostop29733 жыл бұрын
12:53 Homework : Solve this problem over all integers (Z) 13:02 Good Place To Stop
@WillCummingsvideos3 жыл бұрын
11:08
@derekcresswell73523 жыл бұрын
These are exactly the type of videos I want to watch. I really enjoy your style. Please keep them coming.
@raystinger62613 жыл бұрын
About the claim 4∤a: Professor Penn tends to make claims ahead of time and then prove them, leaving the student to believe they should had come up with that claim by themselves. But there's a way to naturally come up with that claim. So at 3:28, we came to the conclusion that a must be even. So we can say a=2c, which gives us: (a + 6)² = 4ab => (2c + 6)² = 8bc 4(c + 3)² = 8bc c² + 6c + 9 = 2bc We have that 2bc is even, so the left hand side must also be even. We know 6c is even and 9 is odd, so (6c + 9) is odd, but given that LHS must be even, then c² must be odd as well => c is odd => 4∤a
@lunstee3 жыл бұрын
Rather than expand out the square, I would have just left the last line as (c+3)²=2bc . The right side being even implies c+3 is even, which means c must be odd. On the other hand, expanding things out does help with seeing the other constraints. If we divide out your last row by c, we get c+6+9/c = 2b. The left side can only be integer (2b) if c is 1, 3 or 9. All these are solutions.
@paulbarbat19263 жыл бұрын
I think you can take the puzzle a step further : Find all (a, b) among the integers, such that for a given c among the real numbers, you have : Y1 = a*x + c, and Y2 = x*Y1 + b have a unique intersection point
@SamEden3 жыл бұрын
"Two times three has a little bit nicer of a form" 😂
@juanpablogonzalez71303 жыл бұрын
If you use quadratic equation many times, you can find that b=6 and b=8 are the only solutions. The case of b=6 is trivial, and the b=8 a consequence from pythagorean triples.
@donaldbiden79273 жыл бұрын
Hi Michael ! Great problem ! Just a way to reduce all the work. When u got (a+6)^2=4ab, u could have just written a^2+a(12-4b)+36=0 \implies the discriminant must be a perfect square. Hence we get b^2-6b=s^2 for some ‘s’. Next, we complete the square by adding a 9 and then factorise things using a^2-b^2=(a+b)(a-b)
@kevinmartin77603 жыл бұрын
I went that way too, but I just solved b(b-6)=s^2 by trial and error. I don't know if I would have to go to the same amount of trouble as Michael did to prove that b=8 (thus a=2 or 18) and b=6 (thus a=6) are the only solutions. You also get b=0 as a solution to b(b-6)=s^2 but this yields a=-6 which is not a natural number and so is not a solution to the overall problem.
@bilalabbad79542 жыл бұрын
I love your explanation .it is clear and organized
@txikitofandango3 жыл бұрын
My method can be easily expanded to cover the integers. Set 12-4b to equal the other sums of pairs of factors of 36 (the even ones, obviously). 12-4b = 20 => b = -2 => a = -18 or a = -2 12-4b = 12 => b = 0 => a = -6
@khaido072 жыл бұрын
I love how it began as an algebra problem but then it gets more onto arithmetic when he starts to talk about even numbers and divisibility
@manucitomx3 жыл бұрын
This was a great problem. Thank you, professor!
@renatsamur90993 жыл бұрын
Great video. I came up with a slightly different solution for those interested. When we got to (a^2 + 12a +36)/4a = b, I distributed the 1/4a to give a/4 +3 + 9/a which as b is a natural number, a/4 + 9/a is also a natural number. This gives (a^2 +36)/4a is an integer so 4a|a^2+36. This means 4|a^2 +36 and a|a^2+36 giving 4|a^2 and a|36. From 4|a^2, a is even. Going back to a/4 + 9/a is a natural number we can see that as a is even, 9/a is not a natural number so a/4 cannot be one too so 4 does not divide a. Now choosing all a which are even, not divisible by 4 and factors of 36 gives a=2,6,18 with solutions b=8,6,8 respectively from (a^2 + 12a +36)/4a = b.
@alric83 жыл бұрын
I did this problem exactly the same until 2:48 at which point I divided the entire equation by a. This means that you can just check the 6 values of a which divide 36, which is admittedly boring but far more straightforwards.
@dneary3 жыл бұрын
I got there a little more quickly by dividing the equation (a+6)^2=4ab by a, giving 4b=a+12+(36/a) with a = 2 mod 4 - leaving only 3 options that have 4b being an integer: 2, 6, 18 (similarly, over integers, a \in {-18, -6, -2, 2, 6, 18}, b \in {-2, 0, -2, 8, 6, 8})
@roberttelarket49343 жыл бұрын
A good place to START your suggested homework assignment.
@eneapane75943 жыл бұрын
Hello. Could you please switch this cool shade with the old one? I find it really hard concentrating with this color.
@IamBATMAN133 жыл бұрын
Another really great problem, thanks for everything prof
@lmattas3 жыл бұрын
Such a Nice resolve to the problem, thanks!!!
@mpdcm3 жыл бұрын
You also have to check the case a=0
@mikeh2833 жыл бұрын
(a+6-2b)^2-(2b-6)^2=6^2. By the Diff of two squares: a-4b+12=(one divisor of 36), a= (the other, corresponding divisor of 36). How many ways are there to split 36? Any choice involves 4 solutions with permutations and negatives.
@liberatednow60133 жыл бұрын
Hi could you try out some math in higher dimensions... that would be cool!
@guigazalu3 жыл бұрын
You're saying, like, complex numbers and stuff?
@aaademed2 жыл бұрын
When you think that it's an algebraic problem but most of the time we spend on number theory
@arjunverma9633 жыл бұрын
7:42 could someone explain what he meant by it, i wasnt able to grasp it
@DavidCorneth3 жыл бұрын
He writes a as twice an odd number, i.e. {2, 6, 10, 14, ...}. However he already checked 2 so he's left with a in {6, 10, 14, ...}. Any of those numbers is divisible by an odd prime p. He goes to show that this odd prime must be 3. Makes more sense?
@stewartcopeland49503 жыл бұрын
@@DavidCorneth Why do we exclude for example the value a = 2x3x5 = 30 which also fulfills the 3 conditions: 30 is even, is not a multiple of 4 and 3 divides 30 ?
@DavidCorneth3 жыл бұрын
@@stewartcopeland4950 Yes, it fulfills those three conditions but another fails. We have (a + 6)^2 = 4*a*b. If some prime p | a is larger than 3 then we also know that p | 4*a*b since p | a and a | 4*a*b. However p doesn't divide a + 6 since if p | a + 6 and p | a then by doing one step of the euclidean algorithm we have p | 6. But we said p > 3 so that's impossible. In particular 5 doesn't divide 6 so we can immediately see that a = 30 can't give a solution since 5 | 30 and 5 is a prime > 3. See?
@DavidCorneth3 жыл бұрын
@@stewartcopeland4950 Maybe try this: find a such that 5 | a and 5 | a + 6. Can you find such a?
@stewartcopeland49503 жыл бұрын
@@DavidCorneth Thanks for your lighting, it's nice to see that you are concerned about "after sales service"
@debdami3 жыл бұрын
Does N include 0 ? In that case, any b will fit for a=0. No parabola, but two lines, one horizontal and one of slope 6, with only one intersection.
@shahjahanishaq17283 жыл бұрын
How do we come up with the claim that 'a' cannot be a multiple of 4 in the first place? What does that 'playing around a little bit' refer to?
@hazalouldi7130 Жыл бұрын
what about 2 solutions reals or complexes?there are many integers
@wospy10913 жыл бұрын
I did it slightly different. I got -36=a(a+12-4b), so a is a divisor of 36 (1,2,3,4,6,9,12, or 36). Then it's just a matter of checking those 8 cases.
@mcwulf253 жыл бұрын
Excellent, more than one solution! How did he know to check a as a multiple of 4?
@f5673-t1h3 жыл бұрын
If the natural numbers are defined to contain 0, then a = 0 and b any natural are solutions.
@adamswilliam34623 жыл бұрын
“a” can’t be 0 since y = ax^2 + 6x + b wouldn’t be a parabola.
@henkhu1003 жыл бұрын
@@adamswilliam3462 Why should the graf be a parabola? That is not mentioned in the problem definition
@williamadams1373 жыл бұрын
@@henkhu100 At the very start Michael said it was a parabola. Furthermore, it was how I wrote the problem. But sure, if the problem statement was literally “Find all pairs of integers (a,b) such that the graphs of y = ax^2 + 6x + b and y = ax + 6 intersect exactly once.” , then a = 0 and b being any integer would be solutions.
@henkhu1003 жыл бұрын
@@adamswilliam3462 If you look at the problem definition you don't see anything about the fact that the graph of the function has to be a parabola. That Michael makes that statement is his own interpretation of the problem, In fact he solves another problem than the problem on the board.
@henkhu1003 жыл бұрын
@@williamadams137 If you look at the problem definition you don't see anything about the fact that the graph of the function has to be a parabola. That Michael makes that statement is his own interpretation of the problem, In fact he solves another problem than the problem on the board. And my remark is about that problem because that's the problem we have to solve.
@knotwilg35963 жыл бұрын
There are a few ways to get to the fact that (a+6)²/4a = (a²+12a+36)/4a must be natural from that follows that 4|a² so a=2k and 2k|k²+6k+9 so k|9 so k=1,3,9 so a=2,6,18
@DavidCorneth3 жыл бұрын
ax^2 + 6x + b = ax + 6 gives (ax + 6)*(1-x) = b. The parabola has zeros at x = 1 or x = -6/a so the vertex at x = (1 + -6/a)/2 = 1/2 - 3/a. Plugging that in gives after some shuffling (a + 6)^2 = 4ab. odds and multiples of 4 give a contradiction so a is of the form 4k + 2. Furthermore we have 36 = a*(4b - a - 12) so a|36. The odd divisors of 36 are 1, 3 and 9 so possible values of a are twice those i.e. a in {2, 6, 18} checking those gives the desired solutions (a, b) in {(2, 8), (6, 6), (18, 8)} as shown by Michael.
@tanusrimalakar93573 жыл бұрын
Superb explaination Sir
@clembat13 жыл бұрын
Where can we suggest problems please? Thanks!
@alfykerolous1869 Жыл бұрын
why michael all these stuff we observe that (a+6)^2 is a perfect then 4 ab must be a perfect too so a =b and so on a =6 and by ur observatoin 4ab is even then a+6 is even then a at least =2 at the form of (2n) set it = 2n and solve u found that 2b= n+6+9/n and bcs b is and int then n must be equal to 1 2 3 9 and by trying all of them we find the correct one s
@Bozzigmupp3 жыл бұрын
At 8:45, why does P have to be able to be divisible by 6
@DavidCorneth3 жыл бұрын
We have p | a and p | a+6 so by applying one step of the euclidean algorithm we have p | (a + 6) - a = 6 i.e. p | 6.
@2070user3 жыл бұрын
Another way is to rewrite those into equations. p|a and p|(a+6) means a=p*k₁ and (a+6)=p*k₂ where k₁ and k₂ are natural numbers we can substitute a=pk₁ into the second equation pk₁+6=pk₂ 6=pk₂-pk₁=p(k₂-k₁) since 6=p*(k₂-k₁) so that means p|6
@txikitofandango3 жыл бұрын
I did it in a totally different way, so it was fun to see a different approach than what I used, and how they intersect! The equation ax^2 + 6x + b = ax + 6 has exactly one solution in x. Equivalently: ax^2 + (6-a)x + b-6 = 0 has one solution. The discriminant (6-a)^2 - 4a(b-6) = 0 a^2 + (12-4b)a + 36 = 0 This quadratic in a will factor when 12 - 4b = plus or minus 12, 13, 15, 20, or 37, which is what you get by multiplying pairs of factors of 36. The only natural numbers b that satisfy this are 6 and 8. The middle coefficient of the quadratic can be 12 - 4(6) = -12 or 12 - 4(8) = -20. If b = 6 then a^2 - 12a + 36 = 0 => a = 6 If b = 8 then a^2 - 20a + 36 = 0 => a = 2 or a = 18 Solutions: (6,6), (2,8), (18,8) Let's see how I did!
@txikitofandango3 жыл бұрын
Cool, I got the right answers in a totally different way. So I learned double!
@emmepombar33283 жыл бұрын
The question is also: Find all tangent lines g for parabola p. Couldn't we use, that a is just p'?
@hasanjakir3603 жыл бұрын
What if a=0 ?
@tonyhaddad13943 жыл бұрын
(a,b) (2,8) (6,6) (18,8)
@Happy_Abe3 жыл бұрын
How by showing p=3 and knowing p divides a do we know a has to be 2(3^m) Why can’t it be two times 3 times some odd number because p=3 divides 3 times an odd.
@petersievert68303 жыл бұрын
Because that would mean there is another odd prime factor in a. But any prime factor of a needs to divide 6. There is no other odd prime factor but 3 doing that.
@Happy_Abe3 жыл бұрын
@@petersievert6830 thanks
@siulibasak38043 жыл бұрын
We can also solve it by doing discriminant = 0 (6-a)²-4a(b-6)=0 => a²-(4b-12)a+36=0 mn=36 & m+n=4b-12 After solving this we get all the solutions.....
@prathmeshraut16163 жыл бұрын
Micheal I am beginning my calculas of Higher education any suggestion u would like to give
@horishok_voloskiy3 жыл бұрын
те відчуття, коли в старших класах звичайної загальноосвітньої школі строчив тригонометрію як соняшникове насіння, а зараз, через майже 20 років ледве згадуєш ті формули і рівняння
@ricardocavalcanti33433 жыл бұрын
Não entendi.
@cernejr3 жыл бұрын
Very nice.
@karl1310582 жыл бұрын
Why are people so fond of proof by contradiction? To prove 4 does not divide a, use: a IS even, so a =: 2d => (2d+6)^2=4*2db ! Now pull out 2^2 from the square on the left side and divide by 4 => (d+3)^2=2db ! Right side is even, so left side is even, too. So d+3 is even, so d is odd! (done)
@CM63_France3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Ok, great!
@hitchikerspie3 жыл бұрын
λ=(z+i)/(z-i) Where z = a + ib When does λ belong to the real numbers?
@tobiasgorgen75923 жыл бұрын
b = a³ / (a²+a) ?
@manjunathbhat69343 жыл бұрын
When a = 0 and b not equal to 1
@hitchikerspie3 жыл бұрын
@Federico Rulli Yeah this is it, but the proof is a bit longer expanding out and multiplying by complex conjugates :)
@tobiasgorgen75923 жыл бұрын
@@hitchikerspie hm, I wonder where I went wrong. I expanded the Frac and ended up with a complex number where leting "b" = 0 left me with my solution.
@36sufchan3 жыл бұрын
If λ is real, so is λ+1/λ-1 using good ol componendo dividendo, z/i is real => z is purely imaginary Though I don't know how I'll show this comprises of all the solutions
@Tiessie3 жыл бұрын
This color palette feels a bit too cold
@giuseppemalaguti4353 жыл бұрын
Come sei caduto in basso!!!!
@haziqthebiohazard36613 жыл бұрын
a = 0 and b is any number works too doesn't it
@TJStellmach3 жыл бұрын
Not over the natural numbers (given the meaning of that term specified in the video).
@mepoor7613 жыл бұрын
I love this color
@Dshado3 жыл бұрын
You said you were playing with colour palettes, and I don't think this one is nice. It's too blue and "surgical" in my opinion
@呂永志3 жыл бұрын
missing solution: a=0, b is any natural number.
@tranbachnguyen51083 жыл бұрын
Not a good place to stop yet. You forgot a=0.
@TJStellmach3 жыл бұрын
No, he didn't. Maybe re-watch the video to see why.
@armacham3 жыл бұрын
There are two "a" and two "b" in this problem. Not good! The first "a" is listed in the problem itself (y=ax+6). The second "a" is from the quadratic formula. The same exact thing happens with the letter "b."