Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 | VR Optimizations | Performance Improvements

[@OverkillSimulations]

Hey Everyone! Just to offer some clarification on SteamVR because it keeps coming up, the need to use SteamVR is going to be determined by the headset you have, NOT where you purchased it from. For example, I purchased MSFS from the Microsoft Store. However, since I have the Pimax headset, I have to use the SteamVR application as the VR render agent between Microsoft and Pimax. I hope that makes sense and offers a bit more understanding. HP Reverb I believe uses Windows Mixed Reality Oculus will use Oculus Home

[@spectrasouth]

An excellent video and thanks for that clarification as I was about to ask that question. I have a Reverb G2 so use only WMR. You advise to upgrade to the latest Nvidia driver while others report better performance when they revert to an earlier version, such as 446.14. I'm interest in your opinion on that.

[@jasonemery8375]

I’ve got an oculus rift S and purchased msfs through steam. I can only use steam vr nothing else. Even if I do the regedit fix it just will not work unless it’s in steam vr. Any ideas ?

[@jkdjose]

I just did all that was said in the video, now my oculus rift won't show VR in the headset, the monitor shows double images, but nothing on my headset? Any thoughts?

[@OverkillSimulations]

Try Just go to steamVR, settings, developer, and change “Current OpenXR runtime” to SteamVR. Fixed it for my Valve Index headset.

[@jkdjose]

@@OverkillSimulations its already set to Steam VR

[@nicolacanali2516]

I love how in order to run smoothly a Microsoft product, you have to turn off all Microsoft optimization options.

[@davecarsley8773]

Wanna hear something even better? When I first installed Microsoft Flight Simulator (Gamepass Version) around launch, I couldn't play it because it kept telling me to "Insert the original game disc". I searched online and found thousands and thousands of people with the same problem. What was the official [Microsoft owned] developer response?? Turn off ALL windows security! The firewall, the live security, Windows Defender.... all of it! It's been 8 months now, and I STILL can't turn on *any* windows security features or I can't play this game made by a Microsoft studio. Unbelievable.

[@dietmardiamant]

You sir are my hero ! I am a simracing guy who literally watched every vr optimisation video about the various racing titles, but nobody mentioned the gpu acceleration feature. I stumbled across your video because I got the flight simulator today, after flying around a little, I started my racing sim in VR (Automobilista2) and saw a massive performance boost ! It's like having a new graphics card :)

[@howardbloom7926]

Thank you SO much for your wonderful, professional & caring advice. I have been an avid flight simmer since FSII in 1984 on a PC Jr and I really love this latest release . Your help is certainly appreciated. Howard

[@OverkillSimulations]

You are so welcome!

[@paulusintas8627]

Mate! Thanks so much .. your guide helped my Flight Sim VR experience go from UNPLAYABLE to totally decent and very enjoyable, mostly smooth experience :) Very helpful.

[@stevengarner4596]

I can speak to your advice about not giving up. I have an i7, GTX1070 with 16Gb memory and WMR and have MSFS 2020 running more than acceptably. It wasn't at first but after following your suggestions in your previous video it works great. Of course, it could always be better but it's still pretty amazing. Thanks!

[@Chadman03elantra]

This is good news! I have the same specs and was wondering if this was even playable with my setup.

[@franklydoodle350]

This was by far the most helpful video in general about MSFS 2020 optimizations. Great work and thank you so much!

[@ebptube]

I can now fly low to the ground and have a smooth experience but to the cost of less clarity and definition. Guess the GPUs of even top class are way behind what games can offer. Tank you for a good instructional video. It is very easy to follow your instructions.

[@richardbarland3755]

Wow the best setting i could get so far, i got me a Dell G5 i9-10900 , rtx3070 , 32 gig of ram with the quest 2 , virtual desktop, you made my day, new york at night 23 fps , thanks man

[@SparlsOfficial]

HAAAAAAAAA 23 FPS 😂😂😂😆

[@leverpaul]

Excellent video. Helps to keep plugging along in improving VR experience. Thanks a ton.

[@Beeterfish]

Windows will now update to its latest 20H2 version instead of 2004.

[@ryanlucas7588]

I can't believe how much difference disabling full screen optimisation did. I kept turning down graphics settings, thinking that was the cause of the stuttering. Now I can turn graphics settings way back up. Thank you :-).

[@LouisB355]

For me disabling full screen optimisations resulted in the image warping when I move my head, also black bars became visible around the edges for some reason

[@freutimann]

Thanks man, this helpt much!! great! the fat stutters are gone! very cool and higher settings possible (had really bad stutters with 3090 and amd 5900k, 64gb)

[@UTubeSL]

That must have been very frustrating given the absolute beast of a PC...

[@mobias7]

Great video. Thanks for doing it. I think people should also remember that the sim is still in its early days of VR and Asobo will optimise things further over the coming months, hopefully. I also think the new RTX 3000 series cards aren't well optimised for VR yet either. I've got a RTX 3080 and I can't for the life of me get rid of a very slight stutter when I'm flying. I'm using a Quest 2 headset. There's so many variables with the sim that need to come together in exactly the right way for optimal performance.

[@OverkillSimulations]

I 100% agree with you. Not to mention the sim itself is still very much an infant

[@timwitt94]

I left my openxr scale at 100% and brought the sim down to 60% res and its definitely the best performance with good quality. Still somewhat blurry but the smoothness really makes up for it. And I am running a 2080ti and i7 10700k

[@OverkillSimulations]

Awesome! roger that!

[@somefuckstolemynick]

Thank you! Absolute gold! Sold advice at the end there. It can be a bit overwhelming in the beginning. These videos helps _a lot_ for us newbies.

[@zf1615]

I don't often comment on videos but absolutely awesome video, some great tips there, going to try these right now and I'll update if it works!

[@zf1615]

Been spending ages trying to get my pc to update to 20h2 from 1909 because it's aparently not compatible... I was doing this to get the option to disable scheduling. But aparently its a new "feature" for 2004 build+ anyway. So I guess that's not my problem :( hoping that if I can get the latest update working it'll help anyway

[@_S.H_]

My 2 cents to my fellow gamers: * Updating the video card driver will not necessary increase performance and I am always hesitant to do it. I have seen benchmarks results decrease with a newer graphics driver. I always look at the driver notes. If it doesn't mention specific performance improvements (in general or to a game I am interested in) I don't upgrade. * Another tweak to enhance system performance: Control Panel -> Power Options -> Select the High Performance or Ultimate Performance plan

[@BuntyDave]

I've been though all this myself. Got mine working great, though I have a great PC there's still adjusting needed. I'd add, for those using an oculus, set your oculus software to allow beta's and let it get the most recent version. Fixes black box problems and places you perfectly in your aircraft seat. Also I found that my detail still wasn't as sharp and clean as I hoped so I fixed this with 'oculus tray tool'. Setting super sampling to 1.5 or more while the in game setting only needed to be low. 60 or 70. Amazingly my fps stayed at a similar... ish level but the resolution/clarity was waaay better. Hope this helps.

[@OverkillSimulations]

More information the better! I'll be sure to note this as I'm sure I will need to repeat this guide in the future as it gets buried in KZbin

[@JTCulverhouse]

Will give this a go - thanks. :)

[@Danzona40]

Thanks for this amazing and helpful rundown! I'm relatively new to VR, and I'm still on a learning curve. I'm hoping your suggestions will help improve my MSFS and X-Plane experiences, as well as DCS. I'll drop you a line separately, I have a couple issues with my Oculus Quest 2 that I wanted to get your input on.

[@richardlindqvist556]

Hey, first of all - a huge thank you for putting all of this stuff together! Extremely helpful and you save hours - if not days - of work for the rest of us. Question - with my rig there is a HUGE difference between flying e.g. the Piper Cub and the B747 when it comes to "screen studder" etc. I can have the VR graphics set pretty high all across the board in the Cub with no studder at all but changing to the B747 whilst keeping the same settings is like giving the CPU an aneurysm. It suddenly studders like crazy. I do realize that the cockpit of the B747 is much more complex graphically than that of the taildragger but I did not expect the difference to be that significant. Have you experienced the same and if yes - how did you tackle it? I guess one way would be to skip all of the more complex cockpits but that's kind of boring...

[@OverkillSimulations]

Yes! Unfortunately what you're experiencing is a lack of optimization of the 747 cockpit in this case. Yes, the airliners require a bit more loving from the GPU. However, mostly their cockpits just aren't optimized well.

[@richardlindqvist556]

Thanks for the quick response. OK then I know this is a pretty common problem. Somehow, even though there is little logic to it really, it feels better to know that you're not the only one struggling. Anyways. Please keep up the good work - love it!

[@juniorwizzard]

Actually, the graphic card's driver should be kept in an older version if you are on anything bellow the 30 series. Happens that nVidia is so busy on their newest products that they have left us (on 10 series and 20 series) behind. The newest drivers have been slowing the old graphic cards down. That's what I read and after going back to an older version of the driver I DID notice a huge improvement. I'm running a RTX2080TI. The driver I am using right now, as suggested, is 446.14. Give it a try!

[@charlesoxley7242]

The most recent Microsoft update is 20H2, and hardware accelerated gpu scheduling is not there. Instead, when I go to graphics settings, it asks what app I want to affect. MSFS 2020 is listed, and there is the option to either let Windows choose the best settings, a setting for best power management, or a setting for best performance. I chose the setting for best performance. Edit: I am using an AMD processor (rx5700xt).

[@jorisbonson386]

It's there if you're on the latest graphics driver (I have 20H2 - it's not present when nvidia driver 446.14 is installed but it is when 460.89 is installed). Makes zero difference for me anyway!

[@charlesoxley7242]

@@jorisbonson386 Thanks for your reply. I will dig around some more to see if I can find it. Also, is there any reason for me to have Nvidia drivers (my gpu is an RX 5700xt).

[@dutypaidrock]

A32NX FPS before ~20-25. Watch video. Implement changes. A32NX FPS after ~30-35+. Got up to 48-50FPS in the WT CJ4. Now not worried about being booted off VATSIM! Have a subscribe.

[@gerardvanbeek6710]

In my opinion Windows 202H is the newest version. Edition Windows 10 Pro Version 20H2 Installed on ‎19/‎08/‎2020 OS build 19042.685 Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.551.0

[@dfloth]

Agreed.... my system is also on 20H2 and as such "Hardware Accelerated GPU Scheduling" is not available for change.

[@OverkillSimulations]

Do you have an Nvidia graphics card? That might be the caveat...

[@TheSinzia]

Nice video, subbed cause of all the useful info.

[@OverkillSimulations]

Thank you. It really does mean a lot!

[@theVRpilot]

Great video man!! thanks for this!

[@OverkillSimulations]

My pleasure Buddy

[@ThePjKearney]

Thank you, just superb!

[@_S.H_]

I am running Windows 10 LTSC and don't have the "Hardware-accelerated GPU scheduling" feature. I read it can be enabled/disabled in the registry but don't know if would still be applicable to my edition of Windows 10.

[@Youda00008]

OpenXR now comes with an performace metrics overlay, but i can't understand it. Could you please tell me what is the value i should watch to determine how big performance reserve i have for increasing graphics settings? In SteamVR i was using fpsVR, but that doesn't work here.

[@rangeorge85051]

beginning to think there would be less anxiety and less time wasted if I just took real flying lessons

[@OverkillSimulations]

Lol!!! And just as expensive lol

[@RyanPriest-CD]

OK! First of all thanks for putting this video up! I had so much hope! But alas, after trying everything even with the LOWEST SETTINGS across the board... still the VR experience is SOOOOoooo choppy and I have a 3090!!! I don't know what else to try anymore. I have a brand new Valve Index that i upgraded to specifically for Flight Simulator. Very bummed! Can you help?

[@RyanPriest-CD]

It is stuttering really badly.

[@MickMacSpoz]

Great Video! Would it be fair to say your initial guidance on Windows 10 settings are good tips for all PCVR gaming? Or are these changes MFS specific? Thanks

[@OverkillSimulations]

I would say they help in most VR application

[@tonazzz]

Even if i changed the folder owner to my user, when i check disable full screen optimizations i get "access denied" error. Any hints?

[@OtaQ]

Would also like to know a solution for this. Did you find one?

[@tonazzz]

@@OtaQ No. And changing permissions on WindowsApps folder just fuck up things. It was extremely hard to restore that mess. NEVER DO THAT.

[@MrCookie5555]

I have a folder that says Xboxgames and the sim is in it. So i guess it's running like an app. Is it different from the one you are showing on this video? Lots of Moapp crash and other stuff...

[@Rob-gr4yl]

I could do all of these steps except find the microsoft.flightsimulator... folder in the Microsoftapps folder. It wasnt in there. Any solution? Cheers

[@pat.sambas]

Unfortunately the steps for Disabling Full Screen Optimization, messed up my system. Others have mentioned and I wish I had seen the comments, but changing the ownership of the WindowsApp folder first ended up causing my MFS to ask for the install CD. Tried to change the ownership back, but couldn't. Tried System Restore...did not work. I'm too tired to be mad, but others that have MFS on Game Pass be warned. The other tips are useful, as a workaround run MFS in windowed mode in VR so you don't have to worry about full screen optimization. I hope Overkill makes an update video and takes this one down.

[@cbake8805]

Thank you so much!

[@jorisbonson386]

Hate to be 'that guy' but unfortunately the mentioned steps didn't fix the judder issue for me :( There is also a current issue with the Nvidia drivers for SteamVR on 20xx and 30xx cards - there is intermittent frame dropping in every version after 446.14 (there's a thread on nvidia forums). Rolling back to this version fixes it, but the HAGS option disappears from Game Mode settings entirely. Either way, disabling full screen optimizations on the FS executable did not solve judder (how much money were you willing to bet btw? ;) ). All other steps have been followed to the letter. Running 5900x, 2080ti, 64gb 3600 corsair dominator and Sabrent Rocket pcie 4 nvme. Disabled all online data streaming to eliminate any possible outside source, I still have the judder issue (smooth frame rate but every 0.5 > 1 sec a 'jump'). Same with 446.14 or very latest nvivida drivers. My Windows 10 64 Pro is fully up to date.

[@flyinghighoveryou4872]

I’m looking to upgrade my pc. What do you guys recommend on the cpu and graphics card? I’m really only using this for VR simulators

[@ainsworth080]

hi everyone im totaly new to VR gaming and ive only had a pc since christmas so im totaly new to this im trying to get the flight sim to work ive followed the steps and its still juddering and twitching ive also got everthing set to supper low PLEASE HELP with ideas

[@zaelu]

So... take your render scale to 50%, switch to FXAA, turn off volumetric clouds.... oh... hello Austin...

[@sammarqus6990]

i got that joke!!

[@Skyhook77]

awesome

[@jkdjose]

Basically after doing all this, my VR on Microsoft Flight Sim is not working. Do you have a back out suggestion?

[@jarisipilainen3875]

answer: everything low? its amazing how is so hard put allready rendered screen to vr using 2 camera and make it work. microsoft LETS change everything.unplayable pixels headache annoying frame skips its even harder bite than STILL NO G1000 shortcuts or simconnect event for it !!!!

[@kevinbrook7033]

My Windows 10 says version 20H2, and everything up to date?

[@msrtincollins8233]

C/ Pogram files/ windows apps/ Microflight sim, not in this folder? I have the steam version. Do you know where it is... Thanks

[@OverkillSimulations]

Steam/steamapps/commonapps if I'm not mistaken

[@msrtincollins8233]

@@OverkillSimulations No nothing?

[@msrtincollins8233]

No nothing

[@RCANDY195]

These settings will only work with budget wmd’s not high end, even with my high end system i can only get 30fps max with all low settings. Vive cosmos elite

[@NickDaMan31]

What is your PC settings?? I'm able to get a smooth 36fps reprojection on my quest 2 and a mid grade PC.

[@gospon]

I have ryzen 5600x and GTX1080 and I'm still getting "limited by main thread". Is there any CPU optimization that might help me?

[@OverkillSimulations]

No that actually sounds about right.

[@gospon]

@@OverkillSimulations I upgraded yesterday to RTX2080 super and still THE SAME SHIT. No improvements at all, CPU never goes over 40% on any single core nor as a whole CPU and GPU never goes above 72%. MSFS behaves the same if everything is on ultra or on low. Rendering is 100% with TAA, LOD is 100 for both, AO is off! I strongly believe that persons who worked on graphics engine and VR should be spending their rest days in force labour kamp shifting rocks. They managed to turn a geat game to piece of shit!

[@gospon]

@@OverkillSimulations please tell me what should I do. I have tried everything so far, following your guide to the letter, following other guides.... I have rift s, ryzen 5600x, 32GB 3200MHz RAM, msfs is on ultrafast m.2 and since yesterday I have RTX2080super

[@reboot5598]

cant find microsoft.flightsimulator......... !

[@willzahp5885]

same

[@chocolatcolumbo9484]

It seems weird that everyone is having such bad VR performance on such high hardware. I'm only on an RTX 2070 and i5-9600K and 16GB ram. Guess that hardware is just optimized well.

[@yornav]

10:00 With the Steam version this executable is located in your Steam library folder.

[@Grinchyization]

Thanks for that..

[@xxsljxx18]

Thank you! you saved me much time on that!

[@hawkfish3749]

Everything you said was dead on with what I had to do to get my system smooth. There were a few gems you mentioned that I did not know about so thank you very much.

[@OverkillSimulations]

My pleasure!!

[@swsantos]

Flightsimulator.exe in my system is at D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\MicrosoftFlightSimulator\FlightSimulator.exe because I installed it on my D drive within the Steam Library so depending upon installation it may be elsewhere relative to the Program Files\WindowsApps folder

[@chaospheremediagroup9673]

Once again, you have optimized my flight sim experience with ease...! You take pride in what you do, and I appreciate that! I can not fathom what type of individual would actually "dislike" this particular video where you line out "effective" MSFS VR Optimizations/Performance Improvements...

[@z7ths]

This is BS. It stopped FS2020 working for me completely (with Windows 20H2, latest FS2020). Don't do Windows App Ownership change unless you want to have to completely reset Windows and reinstall FS2020 including redownloading 100GB of data! Seriously, once you screw up Windows Store Apps you have to reinstall windows. Thanks no thanks.

[@Youssless]

EVERYONE should watch this video and not just people with performance issues in Microsoft flight Sim. I have ingrained all these settings to every pc I ever touch for past year or so ever since I struggled with escape from tarkov stuttery below 40 fps mess. Game mode off, game bar off, right click compatibility to disable dpi and change to applicatio as well as cnntrol panel settings first tab dragging to left towards performance followed by settong gpu to max performance and vsync to off vsync then changing physx to run on gpu and to finish it off I disable all the privacy options in main settings especially the background apps turn them all off. Man if I had to grade this entire video I'd give you 200% cause although there are thousands of performance boost options for games out there, no one is as thorough as you. I even picked up something new from you regarding reinstalling nvidia drivers with a clean install. You are a legend and I'm ecstatic to have found this channel.

[@theprivatecloud9001]

Hi, thank you for the video, but I think most of it is either outdated or wrong. Let me share my solution. The video gives an overview of the possible adjustments and I used it as a starting point to play around with my settings. I have an Ryzen 5 5600X and had a Radeon RX 5700 XT with which I had not such a great VR experience with a Valve Index. A lot of picture errors and stuttering/lagging occured depending on the scenery. It was just too exhausting for the eye. I now switched to a Geforce RTX 3060 Ti and the experience was right away a bit better but not as much as I expected, so I spent some time trying out the different settings from this video but noticed that some of them even made it worse. From the comments we can see that this video helped many so it either is somewhat hardware dependend or things changed in 2021, honestly I don't know. One thing that did not work was deactivating the fullscreen optimizations, after doing so I had really extreme stutters, unplayable basically, much worse than before. Unchecking the box, restarting the game and it was much better again. So this did the opposite for me. I would also not recommend to change permissions of the WindowsData folder but luckily FlightSimulator.exe was inside the my steam library and not in this WindowsData path. Changing to maximum performance in the global NVIDIA driver settings is also questionable. For me it did nothing at all and I assume if you set this, it prevents the GPU to throttle down if you are in desktop, so it is probably just a waste of power. If you are in a game the GPU will boost to the necessary levels anyways and might still throttle for thermal reasons because you do not want to destroy the card just to get maximum performance. Also with the other presented NVIDIA driver settings I player around, did not note any difference and set them back to defaults. After also playing around with the SteamVR and the VR settings in MSFS I noticed some things that brought me to the solution. I flew a lot of turns over Rio de Janerio to test it. The integrated MSFS devtool fps monitor is not so helpful because you can hardly see it with the goggle. Instead I recommend to invest 3 dollar or so into the steam app fpsVR which shows a nice fps monitor while you wear the goggle. Now here is my solution: First of all you should try to get the smoothest possible experience. For that decrease everything to minimum in the MSFS VR settings. Especially the render scaling as this has indeed the highest influence of the framerate. Additionally you could also decrease the render scaling in SteamVR. Those render scaling settings in SteamVR and MSFS seem to add up on each other. So using the minimum of 20% in SteamVR and minimum of 30% in MSFS give you a horrible visual experience at low resolution but a very smooth one with the most possible frames. After doing so you maybe want to try those Windows settings, maybe even the deactivation of fullscreen optimizations, to check if any of that gives you even more frames. But as said, for me it did not. Ideally you have something between 60 and 90 frames now at these lowest possible settings. Because now we need to start spending frames and smoothness on sharpness and visual quality. In SteamVR the Valve Index can be set to a refresh rate of 80, 90, 120 or 144Hz. With some higher details you won't reach 80fps even with the highest end cards I think, so we are more targeting for something less. Ideally the refresh rate is dividable without residual through our target framerate and is larger than 25. The best number that fullfils that is 30fps with a 90Hz refresh rate. If you can reach 30fps then the picture smoothing can reproject each frame two times to fill up the 90Hz. The reprojection ratio shown in fpsVR will then be 66.7%. This high reprojection ratio will give you some microstuttering but it will still be comparably smooth and playable. If you have a really good graphics card or are happy to play at very low quality you can reach 45fps maybe. In that case the reprojection ratio will be only 50% and it will be even smoother. If your stable framerate is not a divisor of the refresh rate two things can happen which both are bad in my experience. Say you could reach 40fps at a refresh rate of 90Hz. Then it either tries to reach 45fps to reach a reprojection ratio of 50%, but your card can not handle it and it causes stutters OR it goes back to calculate only 30fps and target a reprojection ratio of 66.7% which leaves 25% of the cards potential in the dust. In fpsVR you can see that the GPU usage would actually go down then. So in case you can reach stable 40fps but your card can not calculate stable 45fps, then you maybe want to change the refresh rate to either 80Hz or 120Hz or increase details to go down to 30fps and stay at 90Hz refresh rate. Since 30fps is totally playable I would recommend to target for that: stable 30fps. That means frametimes indicated by fpsVR should not exceed 33.3ms in any case. So from the lowest visual settings in MSFS VR you can now increase until your frametimes exceed 33.3ms. I would definitely recommend to increase the render scaling back to 100% in both SteamVR and MSFS VR.This gives you a sharp visual. A lower settings in one of them and it can get hard to spot the runway from far or the PAPI lights next to it when even close to the runway. After that I would recommend to enable TAA in MSFS VR because this will make your instruments in the plane be more reabable. They will still not be 100% sharp though but as good as it can get (as of today after Sim Update 6). If you now still have no issues with the frametimes then you can increase other quality settings. Objects like trees and buildings really look ugly in low setting and they also show up quite late only when you come close enough which is a strange experience if suddenly trees pop up in front of you while you are approaching the runway. So medium settings are recommended. Now increase everything else to your likes until you exceed 33.3ms frametime. Some settings have bigger influence on frametimes than others, I think some settings have more influence on the CPU or memory than on GPU. Overall you maybe want to stay even a bit below 33.3ms in order to have some room left for higher demanding sceneries (e.g. Manhattan). Any exceed beyond 33.3ms will cause stuttering and you want to avoid that. So this solution now gave me a really smooth VR experience on medium details on my system. (On non-VR I can play Ultra settings by the way.) Anyhow I would still love to see MS and Asobo optimizing the VR experience for more performance and especially sharpness. So I am really looking forward to the upcoming updates. A long comment, but maybe this helps other VR simmers as well.

[@XRos28]

Hi, In C:\Program Files\WindowsApp, I did everything you suggested, step by step, but there is no Microsoft.FlightSimulator. It jumps from Microsoft.Dxx to Microsoft.Gxx. Do you have an idea why, and how to fix it.

[@Himmywimmy]

Thank you dude! I went from around 10 frames and stutters on a 2060 super i7-10700k valve index to around 30 to 40 and no stutters.

[@OverkillSimulations]

Happy to help!

[@Snowy57]

Your HAGS advice (turn it off) is so valuable. Thank you so much. This is so helpful, all of it.

[@RobBob555]

do not do ANYTHING in this video,, it utterly RUINED my MSFS experience !

[@ksks6802]

What saved me was all his suggestions but with the lifesaver of disabling virtual machine in bios or the less than 32g page file trick.

[@HiSpeedz]

Ahhhhggg Overkill thank you first of all, your video was clear and concise. I must sadly say, however, that even with all settings down as low as they can go, I'm still barely getting 30fps, and as soon as I start increasing the settings, they plummet to unplayable. (I'm on Quest 2 using link, and my other Steam VR games run great) I have a Ryzen 3700X and a 2070 Super, with 32gb of ram. I can run MSFS on desktop at almost maxed-out settings in 4k. I'm desperate, do you have any other suggestions?

[@halldorhalldorsson8134]

Tanner youtube this "WOW, this trick increased my Virtual Reality clarity in MSFS! Try it! 0 FPS COST!"

[@ABQSentinel]

Please note: At 4:25 you suggest to disable Hardware-accelerated GPU scheduling. That's great for VR, but if you do any sort of rendering work (Adobe Premiere Pro, for example), this will lead to significantly longer render times. So you'll need to switch it back and forth as need (makes it a real PlA that it requires a restart).

[@OverkillSimulations]

Yes- that is a very good point

[@Catbat]

It's buttersmooth where it stuttered before!! Absolutely amazing advice!! Some tweaks I would have never found on my own! thanks! subscribed, liked!

[@tonazzz]

NEVER EVER, i repeat, NEVER EVER change permissions of any WindowsApps folders/files. Doing this will break system restore feature (the one with restore points).

[@OverkillSimulations]

Running a repair of the simulator should restore the permissions as well

[@aarondarby7168]

@@OverkillSimulations PLESE HELP ME i just did that and now i cant exist out of windowsApp properties and it wont let me click anything in tht its like its stuck on my screen too now what should i did? im able to get into the windowsApps folder but when i right click it and click properties to just brings me to tht same folder

[@OverkillSimulations]

@@aarondarby7168 that sounds like explorer has crashed or errored. Can you restart?

[@aarondarby7168]

@@OverkillSimulations omg it worked thank you soo much i was soo freakin scared tht i messed up cus when hit apply it didnt pop up tht window sayin tht i just taken ownership but it let me in to the folder but i couldnt close out of the properties and couldnt move it

[@aarondarby7168]

and everytime i tried to click on anything in the properties it just made tht ding noise

[@787roofdog]

Thank you so much for putting this together. It has been a very frustrating week and its now playable. 8086K 2080TI @5ghz 32G

[@OverkillSimulations]

I'm so glad to hear that!!

[@Neal_White_III]

Thanks for the great guide! FYI - You should not assume that nVidia Control Panel / Power Management Mode = Max Performance is actually the best setting. The problem is that running flat-out can cause STUTTERING, due to thermal management kicking in. I recommend trying the different settings for that mode. On my FTX 2080, I've had the best success with Optimum Power (at least in other games). I will retry Max Perf for FS2020, to see if there's an improvement for that game.

[@mxcollin95]

Great video! Thanks so much man for taking the time to put this video together and explain this stuff. I’m a corporate airplane pilot and want to use this sim program for practice but I’m new to working with gaming computers and software like MSFS 2020! I’m learning quick tho. Thanks!

[@lca5396]

First what a great video, very well explained and its made very simple to follow, unfortunalty i still have an issue, i updated windows 10 to the 20H2 But no GPU option to find.... all other options found and updated as told in this superb video. But stuttering all over the place, i was bumping my head virtually, unplayable unfortunately. Any suggestions. Intel i5 - 6600K. 3,5 GHz 16 GB. GeForce GTX 980 Ti. Maybe the system is not good enough ? I don’t have a clue anymore. Should i upgrade something here? Please advice. Thank you V much and greetings from Belgium meanwhile did some further tryouts and came back to the win 10 system settings, graphic settings page, still no GPU option, but saw the option . choose an app to set preference... desktop app and just under it browse, here i put High performance and saved it. so now it says VR Dashboard high performance and the stuttering was gone, so that made it much flyable now Dont have a clue if this was the way to do it on my pc, but it works fine now.. By the way. Tried same settings with X-Plane and waaauw just great. (Also changed the exe file setting) Again thankx Overkill Greetings out of Antwerp

[@beavaerobravo4360]

DONT CHANGE OWNERSHIP OF WINDOWSAPPS, It just broke my system. I am looking at a system reinstall at this time since repairing or reseting MS store and gameservices does not work. And the right permissions are not there to access files from microsoft.

[@OverkillSimulations]

That's so odd. I don't have any issues at all each time I've done it. I also use the store

[@beavaerobravo4360]

@@OverkillSimulations I am not sure why, but it simply broke the whole store. Might be because I had a trail of the game pass and how they set up their system, I dont know. But what I can tell you is that Microsoft has not been able to help me with the issue, I am not a fan of how their store work and how the file structure it uses is. After this experiance I can not recommend anyone buying a game via the Microsoft store, as you wont have access to the file structure of the games. But I have tried to reinstall "on top" of the current install, but it did not work either. I tried following Microsoft instructions to reset and reinstall MS store, and now my next option is a clean install. I think you are on to something about that option being an issue, But I strongly advice anyone with a store install that want to try to change the ownership that it is at own risk and to back up your windows install prior to trying it.

[@OverkillSimulations]

@@beavaerobravo4360 yeah that is really bad. I have been colorfully complaining about them installing into appdata... that's lethality dumb and just more of their controlling BS..

[@SebastienChedalBornu]

On my side using the old nvidia drivers from may 2020 allowed me to go from 12-18fps to a more friendly 25-30fps with my rtx2080.

[@aerofart]

I realize this video is a bit long in the tooth, but what I’m about to submit still applies. It seems curious to me that two big switches Microsoft has provided turn out to be completely detrimental to gaming with MSFS, so I’m thinking about the scenario MS envisioned when they came up with these optimizations, and how that differs from the scenario that Simmers play under. In an average game scenario, the main game process is the only process involved in the game, and there are no additional services like weather, map data plugins, air traffic services etc that a standalone game must “wait” for in order to perform its processes. But in flight sim, we do have all these other services running, and they can’t somehow be hampered by giving the flight sim 100% priority while putting the other services in the background, because the sim will then have to wait on those services to complete anyway, or may even be slowed down by time-outs etc, similar in the way that when your computer does not have internet, all sorts of other apps on your PC become slow or unresponsive and sometimes even non-functional. I’m speculating here, because I’m not really armed with the knowledge about the inner workings of MSFS or even Windows OS, but I think it is a valid observation. It is possible a way to test this might be to run MSFS without any plugins/add-ons or other external services such as live weather/live traffic/ATC and see if the GAME MODE and HAGS switches make a difference. If it did, we would have a path for Windows developers modifying these features so that they did work with MSFS.

[@Lucascavatoni]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that setting the Power Management Mod to "Prefer maximum performance" will only draw more power when idling, but won't change anything when the GPU is heavily used, so won't change the FPS.

[@Theexplorographer]

Really wish you would have shown all your settings. I have the same card and processor...it would save me a lot of time to have a closer starting point to tweak from.

[@ianmorgan9291]

A big thank you for giving time to sort out stuttering and increase the smoothness of vr flight. Now can just adjust the ingame vr setting to see what works best for me. Steps were easy to follow. Happy new Year.

[@OverkillSimulations]

Glad I could help and Happy New Year to you as well!

[@Adrian3712]

With an Oculus rift S and the following PC specs: GTX 1070 Intel Core i5-6402P 2.8 GHz Quad-Core 32GB RAM ddr4 Is it possible to have FS2020 run smoothly in VR and also be able to read gauges and instruments in the aircraft? I mostly run DCS and it runs great at high performance with good FPS and Scenery, Gauges, and instruments look GREAT and they are readable from far!

[@christopherfinn7986]

Hi. This has seriously stuffed my system ! I'm on the latest version of W10 20H2 (KB5000802). My user folder is "chris". This comes up as MAIN\Chris, using the procedure you have outlined but does not show in permission entries. What does though is my Microsoft log-in name, which is how I log in to all three networked pcs, and which I could select as Owner and make the recommended changes to msfs.exe. But now I can't get back to a valid User (TrustedInstaller). Apart from a W10 re-install do you have any suggestions how I can get round this ?

[@trullin9326]

Great video, lots of great advice. One thing I found in my own experience was to do with the system pagefile. My system had allocated a large pagefile to a very slow drive. After disabling the pagefile on the slow drive and leaving a single pagefile large pagefile on my primary SSD, my performance smoothed out and my stutters disappeared.

[@gospon]

@OverKill please tell me what should I do. I have tried everything so far, following your guide to the letter, following other guides.... I have rift s, ryzen 5600x, 32GB 3200MHz RAM, msfs is on ultrafast m.2 and since yesterday I have RTX2080super

[@donc9751]

Excellent video! My windows version says "20H2" not 2004. I know I've updated recently so thinking the 20H2 is a more recent version?? Going through my other settings as you go through them now. I'm running an i7-10700K with a 3070 and 32gb ram. Been doing "ok" but could be better and am thinking your video will help a lot so thank you!

[@gordicesdogreens4563]

When I enter VR my throttle stops working correctly, when I move it forward, its goes into reverse, reversing the axis does not work..as soon as I leave VR back into 2D, works fine. Any clue why this is? I have a Thrustmaster HOTAS WARTHOG

[@1965kings]

In my rig, amd 3900XT, RTX 2080Ti, B550 motherboard, what I did was to disable "Generic pnP Monitor" under "Monitors". Try it at your own risk, but it was night and day for me. It was beneficial in a desktop environment not on my laptop.

[@GT1GT]

I see your running windows version 2004 but the newest update of windows was released on October 2020 Version "20H2" and you made this video on Dec 30 2020 so what's the deal with that when your telling everyone to have the latest version of windows. I am asking you this because I have a I9 9900k, 3080 with a HP Reverb G2 and I am getting up and down performance and I am looking for help with msfs2020 to better my performance.

[@Lolindir_Fox]

just the windows, graphics and steam VR changes helped me A LOT and I'm at 100 render scaling Thanks for this Video! I'm sure my other VR stuff will be a heck of a lot better too, it wasn't bad Flight Sim was really my only problem and doing those changes really helped especially the windows Full Screen optimization disabling was the biggest help I think also switching my graphics to performance was helpful too

[@virtutubavirtutuba5122]

Before last update I could run OpenXR at 75%, with smooth fps. After last game update just pure stutters and slide show especially when looking at gauges. Had to pull back OpenXR to 50% just to get somewhat playable fps, still stuttery when looking at cockipit gauges. Why ?

[@fredoz04]

I also fly Condor 2, a glider sim in VR, there are no problems with this Sim VR or Monitor view. The difference with this Sim and MSFS is when Condor goes to VR the monitor screen stays as a mono view, unlike MSFS where the monitor duplicates the VR. Surely this is using unnecessary memory or whatever. So is it possible to stop the monitor displaying the VR view. If a screen shot is taken in Condor, it's a mono view, but with MSFS the screen shot is duplex or binocular view. Any thoughts or suggestions?

[@gerhardmalan6352]

Thanks! This made my i7 7820X with GTX 1080ti run a lot better in VR. The micro stutters were driving me crazy.

[@randyparsons3188]

No exe file. I have access to the folder and the community folder, but not the exe. Many folders also empty. A file search did show the exe in a way I could right click on it, but never actually see the file. Note: Always get the Steam version!

[@colind3699]

Dude you are a god send. Thanks for putting up this video. The first 2 steps alone major improvements. Did all your steps and working like a charm. Keep up the good work

[@msrtincollins8233]

Windows apps microsoft flight sim is not listed? Anyone know anything..

[@StefAnimation]

Legend!! On my I9 10900K with my 3090 it was looking and running like FS2000 on a DOS computer... Solved the stuttering and it looks so smooth... Thanks 🙏🏼

[@Chaos6-1]

I have almost the same specs and I did all of this and still having trouble..wanting to pour water in my pc at this point 😢 About to do a clean Windows install and start from scratch as a last ditch effort. I have War Thunder air sim working sooooo well, it is gorgeous (Steam VR set at 100% res on a Reverb G2, solid 90fps)...MSFS and DCS I CANNOT break past the stutters..

[@cavemain8468]

So frustrating trying to get this figured out. I had it looking like Minecraft flight simulator and it was still poop. Great guide though. Wish it had worked for me.

[@Snowy57]

Thank you very much for this guide Overkill. The first half seems at first look to have made quite a differnce for DCS as well. I’m reluctant to put the setting back to confirm this.

[@OverkillSimulations]

I had to disable GPU Acceleration in dcs and full screen optimization as well in DCS too

[@ronniezx10r]

Screen Stretches While In VR, if I take of my headset and look at my screen while moving my headset i see what I'm supposed to see in my headset, but when I put my headset on and move my head everything follows my head movements! I've been trying to figure this out for 2 days now! Everything is up to date, seems to be a problem with steamvr and FS2020 but can’t figure it out. and my Win10 version is 20H2

[@LouisB355]

This is happening to me too! Also it doesn’t seem to be rendering the whole image in vr, I have black bars around the edges

[@RetiredFE]

Wow Overkill, your killing me!!!! I thought I had my VR experience dialed in. Yeah, I was totally wrong. Your settings improved my VR experience by about 75 percent. I followed all of your settings. I had already followed the settings you showed on the MSFS 2020 forum. They are outstanding. But after watching your video and following everything you said to do, I then went to Oculus and went into the Rift S settings page. Was looking around and found another setting - Graphic Preference - and set it to Prioritize Quality. Not sure how much difference that made but the quality improved greatly. I have rendering settings set to 100. But here is the thing that absolutely blew me away. When it came to the graphics card setting you recommended I was totally amazed. I monitor my GPU setting in Task Manager. Before making the change my GPU was running at a consistent 97-99% and the temperature ran around 68-70 degrees. After making the change unbelievably my GPU consistently ran at on 2% power and 68-72 degrees. I have the Nvidia RTX 2060. It is smooth as silk. So I just want to thank you for the advice as it worked perfectly. Much appreciated....

[@OverkillSimulations]

Thank you so much for sharing! Truly this is the result i was hoping for!

[@marco_loewert]

I dont have the option "hardware-accelerated gpu scheduling" but my Windows version is 2004

[@OverkillSimulations]

Do you have an Nvidia graphics card

[@marco_loewert]

@@OverkillSimulations yes, RTX2080ti

[@OverkillSimulations]

I'll try to do some research and find out when/ how it is available

[@jorisbonson386]

Check you're on the latest driver version - it's missing with older drivers.

[@socratesg4210]

You are awesome, I had everything as you said but not the graphics settings. I also use Process Lasso Pro to get maximum use of my 9900K. Thank You

[@OverkillSimulations]

Great to hear!

[@timgarris3406]

Thanks very much for publishing this info! Much appreciated.