Microsoft Flight Simulator | Famous Flyer 10: Boeing 707-320C

[@victorcroker2765]

A lot of these devs couldn't care less. They know you will buy. If not you, the next guy with lower expectations will. They should be ashamed. The iconic 707 deserves much better.

[@LeTangKichiro]

Absolutely, and that's why most of the add-ons won't reach an acceptable quality. Because they can earn money without needing to put in any effort. The marker rewards bad work which is why we get bad work. The few devs like the best dev Fenix do it because only a few have strict standards for themselves.

[@47guitartom]

Every time I see ‘Aeroplane Heaven’ I wince. Please, Asobo/Microsoft raise your standards.

[@CellBlok69wLamp]

@@47guitartom at least it's not mscenery or captain sim. But this still doesn't look as good as it should be

[@Aviation_Videos]

​@CellBlok69wLamp see people don't read the website for captain sim they say what's in the aircraft but people refuse to read

[@ButchNackley]

@@CellBlok69wLamp Captain Sim built an EXCELLENT C130. It is one of the finest models in the game.

[@meroshango9603]

Can i ask what is wrong with this? I see many ppl mentioning but cant understand what is the problem, i dint know much about planes

[@ButchNackley]

@@meroshango9603 mscenery make very low level models. Aeroplane Heaven are mid level models. Kinda like the difference between Aurora and Revell plastic model airplane kits.

[@martins.28]

Just another case of "Look How They Massacred My Boy"... Aeroplane Heaven never fails to disappoint...

[@coriscotupi]

I caught some pretty gross mistakes just by looking at a < 2 min video.

[@JRDShamrock]

@@coriscotupi dont buy it either, Im really not the type to care about the planes looking too realistic or something, but the textures on this one ARE disgusting, its something youd expect from BREDOK

[@meroshango9603]

Can i ask what is wrong with this? I see many ppl mentioning but cant understand what is the problem, i dint know much about planes

[@coriscotupi]

@@meroshango9603 Engine shape is all wrong, the air intake diameter is too small compared to the fan shroud outer diameter. Mind you, the JT3D engine shape is a signature of the 707, getting that wrong more or less spoils the visual model. Also, even with flaps extended, there are no Krueger flaps extended on the wings' leading edges. And the little inboard-most (next to the fuselage) flaps seem too large compared to the neighboring inboard flaps. Cockpit side windows (#1 and #5) shapes are wrong, too. All those problems could easily be avoided by careful examination of real airplane photographs before committing to creating a 3D model, an endeavor that certainly demands a great deal of work.

[@sadken101]

please don't pick aeroplane heaven again

[@TimAyro]

AH clearly has the capability. But they need to raise their own standards. All the parts are here. It's just the lack of attention to detail on any one thing kinda sucks.

[@MyEmpire91]

Wtf do you mean

[@Putzy5214]

@@MyEmpire91 terrible low effort dev.

[@LeTangKichiro]

@@MyEmpire91Why tf can people not just have normal conversations?

[@meroshango9603]

Can i ask what is wrong with this? I see many ppl mentioning but cant understand what is the problem, i dint know much about planes

[@lvwpy]

This aircraft deserved to be made by professionals like JustFlight.

[@Aviation_Videos]

Think PMDG would do the better job out of all of them

[@Duckssssssss]

@@Aviation_Videosdoubt that heavily.

[@KARLHAB]

Or pmdg

[@rdablock]

​@@Duckssssssssthe DC6 was a masterpiece

[@Hybrid330i]

Aerial Simulations have theirs coming out on their website at some point

[@chrishall197]

This iconic jet needed to be crafted by artists not con artists!

[@DirtyRocha]

Just to let you know in time, the size and shape of the cockpit side windows are wrong. Another parts of the aircraft fuselage, wing fairings and engine shapes are wrong too. You are still in time to correct it and not just sell a mediocre product. If you need help I do have real 707 manuals to aid the developer.

[@adilawadilaw8248]

U made one then bro 😂

[@SN57ONE]

Are you a 707 pilot? I don't think you have a say in this bro.

[@DirtyRocha]

@@adilawadilaw8248 it's "You Make one then", illiterate... And I was part of the JF DC-8 Beta team which was Done by AH. Yes I am a developer by contract.

[@DirtyRocha]

@@SN57ONE No but a DC-8 one and yes I know how the 707 operates, so I have all they say in the world. Like it or lump it.

[@davidkellymitchell4747]

There was 3 planes that looked similar but different. The Boeing’s 367-80, 707 and 720 with different engine mounts, inboard wing.The 720 had a small tail fin under the fuselage, although many 707s later got a similar fin there, too. The 720 only had two separate cabin air systems, and therefore intakes only above engine #2 and 3. The 707 had three systems and intakes above engine #1, 2 and 3 giving them a strange asymmetric look like something missing on engine #4. Even for aviation nerds, telling apart a Boeing 707 and a 720 is tricky. Your best bet is to look at the pylon on the No 4 engine. Some also used Pratt & Witney and some used Rolls Royce engines. Another difference between the 707 and the 720, was that the latter only had two turbocompressors. A turbocompressor is what Boeing used in these aircraft instead of a bleed-air system, for cabin pressurization. This is because turbojet and early low-bypass turbofan engines didn’t generate enough air volume for a bleed-air system to work without robbing the engine of too much power. There was also dimension differences inside and out of all 3 planes determined by the model.The 707 had three turbocompressors, i.e. one on each engine except engine No 1. To simplify the systems of the 720, Boeing only put one turbocompressor on each of the inboard engines. This system has its own air intake on an extension on the front of the engine’s pylon. In other system differences, the 720 didn’t have an APU!

[@SydneyRadio2UE]

Why is it not belching sooty black turbine exhaust during takeoff? That was the best part, watching these things takeoff and land when I was a kid in the 1960's. Nothing better than being at the end of the runway, in the observation area at McCarran Airport in Las Vegas, and see one of these things heading straight for you during landing, with those bright landing lights and that huge black cloud of turbine exhaust trailing behind. Great memories.

[@Topofdescent55]

Barely 10 seconds of the cockpit, sus

[@ThePHLMerc]

And attitude indicator didnt even work

[@specialopssoldier1]

umm you can just go to marketplace and look at it or just wait till youtuber upload a walkaround of the plane..dont be stupid

[@Topofdescent55]

@@specialopssoldier1 well it's aeroplane heaven, l'm not hating on them just going from my experiences with them. The B307 launched without a magnetic compass.... the Titanic even had one. Well let's see. The 707 looks like FS2004

[@Topofdescent55]

@@specialopssoldier1 l'm watching a live stream and the INS is a blurry dummy, looks like it looks like you are looking at an external view cockpit

[@bozocraft]

@@ThePHLMercThese scenes were likely filmed with MSFS’s built in replay mode. I will admit, their replay mode kinda sucks, and typically stuff like attitude indicator positions or throttle lever positions dont save on replay mode, and that’s talking from my own experience. The A330 in the MSFS2024 trailer had similar criticism.

[@andrec4731]

No more Aeroplane Heaven !

[@andrewmartin8739]

What no smoky engines !

[@raymondpalaz5355]

carbon footprint woke idiot made that plane.

[@supersky3286]

What is the next Famous Legend ? An Bredock3D plane ? Or MScenery ? 😂

[@person_147]

@@supersky3286 🤣🤣🤣Captain sim🤣🤣

[@supersky3286]

@@person_147 ahahahahahaa

[@YQRAviation]

I See A Swiss001 Video Coming..

[@Benedettini93]

*grabs popcorn* wanna eat some? It's gonna be a dark laughter lmao

[@jaynitrox3783]

She so pretty 🥲 Edit and I love how the devs keeping the “sky is calling” at the end

[@PP-GJK]

I would easily pay double that (30€) for a B707 made by a real Flightsim developer. Lets hope Aerial Simulations takes tzhe flightsim community more seriously.

[@CAL1MBO]

I would honestly pay 60 Euros or more for a study level 707

[@person_147]

@@CAL1MBO same ngl

[@FighterJetOfDoom]

As an aviation enthusiast, the 707 is my favorite aircraft of all time. Glad to see it in game

[@garyadams5651]

I bought it on B 707 for XBOX X and I like it! When I was a Kid my Father worked for American Airline, and we took many family vacations on the B707. I have more complex Pay ware aircraft such as the PMDG 737, and B-777, and the Just Flight F-28 . So far I enjoy the B707

[@filipesiegrist]

Hey, are you sure the right version was released in the sim? There is no FMC, Weather radar, neither CIVA INS on it

[@gibememoni]

its for casuals like myself

[@SnaxDesAvions]

@@gibememoni even casuals like you deserve better, the cockpit is visually garbage both on the model/poly and textures. And the sounds are not even JT3 engines but just a generic fan like we had in FSX/FS2004

[@Topofdescent55]

@@gibememonia 707 shouldn't be for casuals imho, it should be respected

[@alex-mos]

If it's aeroplane heaven, I'm not going.

[@TheFlightLevel]

What an embarrassing addition with the lack of quality control. What a scar on the Famous Flyer line-up!

[@sk8guitardrums]

this is my type of jetliner, love it

[@bobbysea_2634]

Oh man, thats a poor looking cockpit - such a shame; I was looking forward to this one :(

[@marcosbrolio]

I remember the 707-320 on Varig planes

[@coriscotupi]

I got to fly in two of them. PP-VLO and PP-VLM.

[@person_147]

@@coriscotupihow was it?

[@coriscotupi]

@@person_147 As I recall, very comfortable. Real seats, real leg space, actual real meals served in real plates with real forks & knives. And the whole 707 experience. The airplane had that "long distance travel" ambience attached to it that IMO is gone in new airplanes, even if they actually fly farther.

[@person_147]

@@coriscotupi thanks for sharing your experience !

[@BartekKujda]

I was so hoping for a barrel roll shot!

[@MicrosoftFlightSimulator]

Tex Johnston has entered the chat!

[@616morgan]

​@@MicrosoftFlightSimulator You guys should look into the Boeing YC-14 it's not famous but it is unique do to the fact its a STOL cargo plane It'll be a great plane to add or to collab with another Third party Developer!

[@TANTFCC]

@@MicrosoftFlightSimulator bro rly got msfs to comment

[@captainmo215]

​@@MicrosoftFlightSimulatory'all need to be better. This is embarrassing. You should be embarrassed for publishing this. The 707 deserves so. much. better.

[@joemarkowski4465]

​@MicrosoftFlightSimulator Please stop contracting to Aeroplane Heaven, they only produce garbage.

[@RicCrouch]

Had the “pleasure” of flying these back in the day. May have to give it a look in MSFS.

[@TickleFight94]

Holding back another AH apathetic attempt at recreating a legend until a week after Aviator Edition pre-orders were made available - well played, MS.

[@CellBlok69wLamp]

Keep an eye on that number 4 engine, its running a little bit hot.

[@Happy-tp4jd]

was going to buy it. then seen that its Aeroplane heaven.. and it looks bad

[@FLT247]

In my experience, Aeroplane Heaven has done a good job with their builds. Plus they are willing to do a wide range of piston and turbine aircraft.

[@piedmonitor]

This airplane is a disaster. You need to fire Aeroplane Heaven yesterday.

[@EpicJoshua314]

Pan Am pressed Boeing for the 707 and then the 747 and even the 2707 which didn't come (planned to fly at almost Mach 3 and carry over 250 passengers) but they shaped passenger air travel for decades to come.

[@normg2242]

I noticed that the wings are bent upwards even when the plane is parked. And from the exterior it sounds like a small turboprop!

[@FlightSimCFI]

This one is a little rough around the edges to say the least

[@Jensen21704]

Is this your pursuit of quality of aircraft models?

[@steveneng3026]

I'm loving the music, plus having the plane takeoff from Renton is perfect!

[@janusz4156]

The first successful jet in aviation history. 65 years of Boeing 707 in 2022.

[@SaxophoneChihuahua]

aeroplane heaven = garbage

[@lvwpy]

Finally this magnificent aircraft!

[@HulkBogan-lq3vk]

Shame it's a terrible add on.

[@lvwpy]

@@HulkBogan-lq3vk really? I'll have to watch some reviews...

[@thefrenchbias2240]

@@lvwpyits bad 😢

[@underleft]

It's terrible

[@ceoverona1929]

It's Aeroplane Hell😭

[@ambientcoot8715]

I swear I was just thinking last night how cool this would be in the sim!

[@MustangBranden]

Those engines need more of that screech!!! Sound too modern.

[@MZZY_Aviation]

One of my fav planes oat

[@Daimo83]

It's an entirely different kind of flying altogether!

[@CAL1MBO]

The 3D model and cockpit lighting/textures look unfinished. Let's hope it's not a shovelware aircraft.

[@KAPAFlyer]

It's Aeroplane Heaven. Of course, it's unfinished. They can't seem to do anything right.

[@lachmowe1642]

It's from Aeroplane Heaven, this is the best you can hope for

[@global6000]

yeah don't buy it for nice flying, buy it for third person view doing barrel loops for 2 minutes and crash it on the runway and then leave it getting dusty in your virtual hanger, sad times here sadly...

[@americanaviation556]

is this the one thats going to be default in msfs 2024? if so i will hate msfs 2024.

[@Andy_M.S.c]

How does it look unfinished??

[@VictorSilva-qf2tu]

0:45 the artificial horizon is way off

[@shinkicker404]

I wonder if it’s because they film these using their replay tool so it messes the instruments up somewhat.

[@m0ther_bra1ned12]

This is the single worst airplane release as pay ware. Ever. For any sim. Stock sounds. Fighter jet flight model. The nose wheel isn't animated. The cockpit is terrible. If I could refund this aircraft, I would and if your considering buying it please don't. Please. Don't let them get away with this. It's bad. There are freeware aircraft that are better. It's clear they don't care about MSFS2020 anymore.

[@Burstix]

I am working on a video as we speak. THIS IS BAD and we can't stand for it.

[@mro9466]

_fOr ThE pRicE iT's nOt tHat BaD_ /s

[@premium3429]

Lmfao. The dramatic hyperbole bs again. What does this have to do with not caring about the sim? Absolutely zero. Dont like the plane? Dont effin buy it. Simple. Msfs2020 is still supported for years to come.

[@mats-c-133]

Amazing trailer!

[@CarlosQuesadaR]

I like it, looks good to me, mainly knowing it is not a plane I'll fly daily.

[@CAL1MBO]

Should've gone to Specsavers

[@robinprivat3024]

Alternative title: "How to convince your community to resort to piracy." There are enough freeware aircraft that deliver significantly better quality. And for a payware addon you can at least expect working animations and decent sounds.

[@FLT247]

Would a Developer please build the Convair CV-580? 184 aircraft were converted from the Convair CV-340 and CV-440, and they are still active freight dogs in British Colombia, Mexico, and serving the Caribbean out of Miami, also still fire bombing in Saskatchewan. Air Chathams (New Zealand) and Nolinor (Quebec) were the last two passenger carriers and just recently retiring them from service in the past couple years. The aircraft has had a long and innovative history, but is often overlooked as the DC-3, DC-6, and Constellation get the spotlight.

[@H4NN1BAL]

0:46 The instrumentation in the cockpit doesn't seem right :D

[@Topofdescent55]

@@H4NN1BAL nothing is right, it's awful

[@gibememoni]

wtf

[@reapercountryboy4023]

@@Topofdescent55 Not even awful, it's TRASH. The wings, engines are completely wrong; The whole cockpit including the windows are the wrong size. TRASH

[@briancrawley8440]

BOAC livery? First plane I ever flew in.

[@FSXNOOB]

Hmm looks like a bad captain-sim copy, I hope I'm wrong...

[@santiblanquez6722]

CS 707 was great back in the day

[@Janet_Airlines802]

Everything isn’t supposed to be study level peeps. Plus it’s 15 bucks.

[@CAL1MBO]

This is Flight Sim 1998 freeware bud

[@Mediaright]

Beautiful soundtrack too!

[@Marc-ps9dn]

Isn't the 707 known as the smoker? I've seen John Travolta's take off and it's smoking like crazy on take off, so where's the smoke?

[@nakedcellist]

It's vaping..

[@Burstix]

They don't have SimFX from @Parallel42 yet

[@NemesisVS]

Knowing how bad engine smoke is implemented in the sim, I prefer to not have it at all

[@CAL1MBO]

Engine smoke halves your frame rate in MSFS. So it's removed from most modules.

[@puterboy2]

Now I can recreate TGA Flight 2 from Airport.

[@Faye-9896]

Why can't I get past the startup loading screen where it shows the world updates? It just CTDs immediately after

[@TheNorwegianPhantom]

Awsome seeing the 707 in the game. Was wating to fly this legend.

[@Aviation_Videos]

Where is smoke trails

[@fergie41]

I hope those commenting here actually bought, downloaded and flown this aeroplane please? If they have and these are the reactions it sounds like Aeroplane Heaven have not delivered. What’s really concerning is the fact that release has been delayed because MS were not happy with the quality !

[@captainmo215]

Bought it. Checked it out. It's somehow WORSE than these comments indicate.

[@jameswaters3939]

Oh the repaints are going to be great. Pan Am looks great. I'm sure Eastern, CAL, UAL, et. al. will too.

[@geolpilot7036]

I do not think repainters will waste their time on such a broken model. Even AH could not bother to supply some other iconic repaints.

[@franciscojavierhermosillov4439]

The very mother of the queen of the skies, the 747.

[@DUBaviator]

Where's the engine smoke?

[@susgofres]

Microsoft has been cooking lately, the a350 and now this.

[@AeroPressDispatch]

No its from iniBuilds

[@JacobMarsh7]

Microsoft has never published an A350 for the simulator.

[@aviator_kevin]

except for the fact that none of these are developed by microsoft

[@susgofres]

@@aviator_kevin My fault I was not specific, And now that I see it, the comment doesn't make much sense.

[@845SiM]

Where is the flippin lancaster for heavens sake!

[@FLT247]

I’m buying this!

[@CAL1MBO]

I went MAD when I found out this has a lazy Garmin 430. Why even bother? This just stole the sales potential of an actual good 707.

[@garyshepherd3638]

The legend flies again!

[@StillSpotting]

I hope they add the E-6 or E-3 to this. Would be a lot of fun

[@Meatwad0666]

now we need a 707 with the f108 engines

[@WillemAnema]

What's missing is the trailing black smoke...

[@u2b891]

That and wing flex

[@ImpendingJoker]

@@u2b891 The wings do flex, they just don't flex very much but the 707 never had extreme amounts of flex in the first place.

[@u2b891]

@@ImpendingJoker I saw a landing video and it did flex, not as much as the 787 but the flex is visible. see the landing at 0:57 the wings remained static.

[@GulfCoastTim]

Wing flex is also dependent on turbulence too.

[@YoSoyElPan]

i love this game

[@jenny02392]

Flies great. Love it.

[@1994CPK]

If I buy the aviator edition do I get this included?

[@kazzercise]

looks like it, it's in the picture of included aircraft

[@waschmaschinenfreund]

Yes

[@feiocv]

Great!!!

[@dustbowlhammer7119]

Idk, I feel like they are getting better, I mean, sure, they are not expensive Lag machines, but the past two planes work pretty good! Personally I feel like there is not much point paying upwards of 70 bucks for a plane I can barely run due to frame rates, this one, I can fly, and almost everything in the cockpit is clickable.

[@meuhey]

will the 30 payware aircraft included in aviator edition be upgraded to MSFS2024 standard?

[@nateweter4012]

Look how they massacred our boy 😢 the 707 deserved so much better representation in sim.

[@Hughes2405]

Looks like comic, and will be a toy, 100% sure! Airlplane Heaven never made a good Plane, especially not an airliner. I would appreciate a B707 von TFDI, PMDG, or Fenix.

[@Michael-ig8ne]

Oh I thought it was going to be good. It’s a “famous flyer”

[@KarelDonk]

where is the grumman ag-cat crop duster

[@NWA744]

The soundtrack to this trailer sounds like a John Williams piece.

[@dcsescuadron71]

Genial, congratulations

[@porter6700]

Old but mighty

[@mgsegoo1124]

Im in love with this Boeing 😍

[@Aviation-FS]

yo msfs will you add the dual cockpit later or do you give up on it?

[@garyadams5651]

Now if only they would add a additional livery pack. … American Airlines, Continental Airlines, TWA, and Air Force 1, for starters

[@LifeSpirit21]

Can’t wait to explore the world 🌎

[@Hypersonicbiker]

Airliners changed forever...

[@TamleughPark]

But I noticed dirt and dust on the wing and engine? Is that a new sim effect??

[@johnpooky84]

Why does this iconic plane look like an FSX port in the cockpit?

[@coriscotupi]

You are being kind. To me, it looks like it came straight from FS98.

[@Topofdescent55]

That's offensive to FSX!

[@johnpooky84]

@@Topofdescent55 My apologies.

[@blackbee_v8]

Beautiful 🥹

[@daniellago1191]

Hardly got CTD... Until I bought this one aircraft...

[@Great-Documentaries]

"Microsoft proudly presents." And then shows off an FSX-level modelled aircraft from a third-rate dev. I was REALLY looking forward to the 707 due to my love of classic airliners of the past. Let's just say I won't be buying the Aviator's Edition now. What a *massive fail*, Aeroplane Heaven and Microsoft! ✈🤡😥

[@markslandingsandaviationvi3123]

0:58 What airport is that?

[@michaelpowell775]

I love the 707, unfortunately this looks like a bit of a rush job 😞

[@Jetset07]

Could've used Captain Sim. Perfect opportunity to redeem themselves.

[@kekke2000]

I hope this will come with a retro Orbit Airlines livery. 😍

[@keane-pro]

It does, check the description

[@kekke2000]

​@@keane-prolol it's right there! 😅 Thanks

[@Mark13376]

KC-135 mod when?

[@ShortFinal]

Not even the same plane.

[@coriscotupi]

Nice. But the fan air intake shape is very odd, with that rounded-off profile (intake internal diameter should not be that much smaller than the fan shroud's maximum outside diameter). Compare it with actual 707 photos & videos, the difference stands out immediately. Which is a shame, those JT3D were a signature in this classic airplane. And... no Krueger flaps? Really?

[@Burstix]

@@coriscotupi Aeroplane Heaven, this is how they do it.

[@coriscotupi]

@@Burstix I was reading about AH in the FS forum, secretly hoping the model wouldn't be as bad as everyone was expecting. But ...ehhh.

[@Burstix]

@@coriscotupi Did you end up getting it? I'm debating right now if I should just purchase it and make a KZbin video to warn people or what. Lol

[@filipesiegrist]

Grande corisco. I bought and it is FSX quality. No working CIVA INS also :(

[@Burstix]

@@filipesiegrist should I make a video to warn others, is it that bad?