Microsoft Linux 3.0 is Out - Is it Good for a Home Lab?

[@mx338]

Can't wait for Linux 365.

[@phyowailin9847]

It would cost $499 to install 🤣

[@eng3d]

@@phyowailin9847 It would include lots of vulnerabilities and backdoors too.

[@hstoufik100]

😂😂😂

[@wultyc]

Before that you will have Copilot for Linux

[@troffle]

I can. I don't want to have to support it.

[@FriedEgg101]

Microsoft Linux sounds like an oxymoron.

[@monh964]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@nathanaelsmith3553]

Can't trust it

[@martin4787]

@@CoruscationsOfIneptitude 🤣🤣🤣

[@manwiththelowend-yb7md]

Only if you're ignorant about how open source works

[@JeffTiberend]

Sort of like Microsoft Xenix.

[@AQDuck]

"Microsoft Linux" might be the most cursed thing I've ever heard

[@GamingWithBlitzThunder]

I've something more cursed other than Microsoft Linux.

[@rynn_3988]

​@@GamingWithBlitzThunderWSL?

[@laurentitolledo1838]

because it really is.....and will be cursed more for some unsuspecting people in the following days....

[@alexxx4434]

What about Microsoft Unix?

[@Hardcore_Remixer]

Their goal with it is to makw it widespread before finally taking control over all the PCs which it is installed on, just like with Windows.

[@Sandeepan]

We got Microsoft linux before GTA6 /Half Life 3

[@Doesntcompute2k]

What's the half-life of Microsoft Linux?

[@Sandeepan]

@@Doesntcompute2k Looks like it's 3

[@marenjones6665]

Obligatory "but Half-Life Alyx" comment here.

[@LilaHikes]

These types of comments are as crusty as the is so underrated comments.

[@JimBimBum]

Didn't gta5 shit on linux users too?

[@mercuriete]

Looking forward for M$ Linux 3.11 for workgroups.

[@k.chriscaldwell4141]

👍🤣❗️

[@davidebalsano6741]

To be honest, I can't wait for MS Linux 28 SE

[@laurentitolledo1838]

....progression to MS Linux NT, MS Linux XP, MS Linux Vista, MS Linux 7, MS Linux 8.2, MS Linux 10.....to MS Linux 11 and so forth....

[@austinleong3319]

Fun fact, Linux kernel 3.11 is officially nicknamed "Linux for Workgroups".

[@limbo3545]

Microsoft Linux Milennium Edition will be the best!

[@Aranimda]

I will wait for Microsoft Linux 95 because that will be the first version with an user-frienly GUI.

[@timgibney5590]

What about Linux for workgroups

[@ghydda]

WfW wasn't that user friendly

[@BenjaminWSong]

there was a time when IBM released OS/2 for Windows along vanilla OS/2.... quite a change from "Linux is no threat to Windows" to "MS Linux 3.0"..

[@igfoobar]

OS/2 "for Windows" didn't actually run ON Windows, though. It was the same OS/2 that could run Windows applications but after the code sharing agreement between IBM and M$ expired, you had to bring your own copy of Windows for it to encapsulate.

[@amortalbeing]

Linux has never been a threat to windows really, up until Win10 and especially especially Win11! Linux has come a long way, it has improved a lot, but windows has been on the decline honestly! since win7 I say

[@wisenber]

" quite a change from "Linux is no threat to Windows" to "MS Linux 3.0".." It's actually an extension of Microsoft encouraging Linux. The Windows desktop OS has been steadily declining as any relevant portion of MS revenue. Most of their income comes from Azure, and many of their customers run Linux on Azure. This distro is just a hardened flavor of Linux that has only the bare-bones required to build whatever micro-service you want to run on Azure. They made the ISO available so developers can work on projects on local VMs prior to committing them to paid real estate on Azure.

[@TurboXray]

@@amortalbeing Be honest now.. the only people that think windows 7 is better than 10 or 11, are the old wankers that don't want to upgrade their 10 year old hardware and complain they can't find the control panel in newer OS's

[@igfoobar]

Azure components like AKS run on it, since they can't run on Winblows. It was never intended to be an end user OS.

[@ThisIsNotAUsername-v3o]

Does anyone else remember "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish."?

[@GaryExplains]

"Remember" is the key word. That was a long time ago. Move on, the rest of us have.

[@expploe]

@@GaryExplains do you think microsoft is not evil they if they can will do that agein

[@GaryExplains]

@@expploe Every commercial company can be called "evil" if that is your inclination. Apple, Google, Microsoft, Intel, NVIDIA, they are all equally "guilty". One of them isn't more "evil" than the other. I could list several "evil" things that all of those companies have done.

[@expploe]

@@GaryExplains yea but microsoft is a more brutal one they kill kill companys and formats you know riff is microsofts propiriatery iff copy this is examine exmbrace exutinwish

[@truthalwaysprevails662]

Well 'Microsoft Linux' sounds like something that Linus Torvalds would blurt out during periods of intense constipation. 😂😂😂😂

[@ManuX]

Hahahahaha your comment gave me the biggest laugh of the day. Thank you.

[@brandonchappell1535]

"Why bother" pretty much sums up most microsoft products...

[@letrainavapeur]

Does Microsoft Linux have a built in BSOD?

[@LedoCool1]

Systemd wants to add that to all distros it infected, so it's getting there.

[@tanja_the_fox]

The Kernel recently got a BSOD in 6.11

[@LedoCool1]

@@tanja_the_fox oh, so they finally made that useless abomination? Damn.

[@tanja_the_fox]

@@LedoCool1 it's not the systemd one tho. It's built into the kernel itself

[@LedoCool1]

@@tanja_the_fox still pain. From what I read it was supposed to have zoomer features like QR codes and fancy images. Can you imagine a qr library always hanging in background ready to encode some help url for those banned in google? Plus I never found bluescreens helpful in windows itself which makes me wonder how are they not bloat in linux. I guess the only use for them is that they would create an easily perceivable state of failure which may not be very evident with a regular kernel panic. That is if those screens will actually be able to engage before kernel panics.

[@M.EdwardBorasky]

Does it have a Linux Subsystem for Windows? (Windows running as a container in the Microsoft Linux host) 🙂

[@SchoolforHackers]

😂

[@chiefeditort3chasia539]

It was called Wine

[@M.EdwardBorasky]

@@chiefeditort3chasia539 Whine is more like it

[@Elizabeth-vh6il]

Azure Linux is their first Linux distribution but not their first Unix distribution. Before Azure there was Xenix.

[@GaryExplains]

Indeed.

[@bigpod]

also wasnt there a distribution/OS based on linux for networking they made with OCP SONiC in mid 2010s

[@tsclly2377]

OOOhhhhh 386 days.. micro, micro, maybe on a Phi 5110e PCIe card and all networked together with underlying SQL- lite to My SQL on the main CPU

[@NexGen-3D]

Better chance of me eating crushed glass and crapping out a cup than ever using this.

[@SchoolforHackers]

Now that’s a new one

[@NexGen-3D]

@@SchoolforHackers How about: Better chance of playing pickup sticks with my a$$ cheeks than using this BS :)

[@manitoba-op4jx]

i like the idea of microsoft money going into the open source ecosystem.

[@chromerims]

"crushed glass" Funny

[@superangrybrit]

For people who find it weird: We have Microsoft DOOM and Microsoft World of Warcraft now. We're in the bizarre times now. 😆

[@Zimbob2424]

Don't forget Microsoft food, Oh wait that's just Bill Gates

[@louiswilliamterminator2887]

​@@Zimbob2424 but it's actually MS poisons

[@f-s-r]

Microsoft Monopoly (but i don't mean the game, which could or could not be theirs)

[@tonysheerness2427]

To me I do not understand why they do not have a cut down version of windows for their cloud services. Surely they are admitting Linux is better.

[@jarivuorinen3878]

Obviously for server use. Linux is first of all open source so data center company doesn't have to install black box OS to their servers. Another is API overhead of course, because in Linux stuff runs in user mode and root access isn't for any normal process. In Windows versions there are layers and layers and of course there's super admin mode closer to kernel, but using that is unsafe. And then there's hardware compatibility and driver support issue, where on Linux server hardware readily gets open source drivers, and kernel is updated with newest hardware support, drivers baked into kernel source code instead of running kernel modules. There's nothing to admit for Microsoft, it's observable fact that Linux is the most used OS in server environment. Microsoft just doesn't want its consumer and enterprise customers to go anywhere else, but over time situation has developed fruitful for Microsoft because much of professional software that exists is solely for Windows, so Microsoft doesn't have to do anything but keep supporting these. For private customers the catch has been gaming and obviously Microsoft Office, but this is going away with different compatibility layers. It just makes sense for Microsoft to push out Linux to keep their cloud ecosystem running competitively.

[@everyhandletaken]

@@jarivuorinen3878 not to dismiss anything you said here, but, when you read these reasons at a glance, it really does sound like a 'Linux is better' admission of defeat, even if that is not the full story. I'm sure a lot of people would hear this & make the comparison with Edge, where MS waved the white flag. Re: black box OS - Windows Server exists, so there are plenty of black boxes out there already.. (not suggesting there should be any more!) I have no opinion for or against Microsoft Linux, as I wouldn't be using it or Azure anyway, but I can see that Microsoft sysadmins must feel pretty left out when they might primarily be working on maintaining Windows environments. Why would there not be a lightweight Windows-like/compatible option on Azure for them. They love their Powershell scripts & are left with porting to Linux, fully fledged Windows deployments or on-prem. All that said, I will remain as non-Microsoft as much as possible & my opinion counts for nothing :)

[@Croga]

They are only admitting that Linux has use cases where it is better than Windows. There are, however, many use cases (including just about all use cases that require direct user interaction) where Windows is better. That is also what they meant when stating that Linux is not a threat to Windows. They have a completely different use case.

[@bigpod]

they probably have internal versions of windows that are cut down but not everything is designed to work on windows, IDK containerisation like docker or kubernetes (while can work on windows(excluding docker desktop here which uses WSL or a linux VM) trought windowses version of containerisation but if you are running a linux contianer you cant run it on windows and vice versa) and its good if they can control the distro their customers are using when using their services like for example their kubernetes service its probably much cleaner for that then lets say ubuntu.

[@Hardcore_Remixer]

That's because all the normies would use that instead of the actual Windows full of spyware they want everyone to use.

[@kchaney56]

Really don't want anything Microsoft has touched.

[@hamsolo474]

Do you realise that MS contributes heaps of code to the Linux kernel, and they own github which Linux is managed by?

[@kchaney56]

@@hamsolo474 I do, I have been a digital forensic investigator for 30 years and I have probably forgotten more about this then you know. Microsoft is evil as are many software companies.

[@expploe]

@@hamsolo474 no it isn't linux uses git GIT github is youst a gui interface wich fucks some shit up with git git is made by linus torwalds their github mreposatory is a back up

[@megan_alnico]

Embrace Extend Extinguish Guess what phase they are in now?

[@ALEDAMAS]

las licencias de código abierto no lo permiten

[@BayuSanjaya]

Linux is a cancer that attaches itself in an intellectual property sense to everything it touches. - Microsoft CEO

[@sorinl8467]

True. Remember Skype

[@maxbartlett5002]

I do worry about this and hope we can keep away from this risk also

[@RowiDankelsaft]

Ah the classic mantra linux fans love to say in fear since 2002 against anything Microsoft does.

[@ultrium2000]

It is a shame they do not make a WSL version of it. I would try it.

[@XenonG]

It's a bit of a roundabout way, but you can build a VHD/VHDX image and import into WSL.

[@Quarky_]

If I'm not mistaken, You can install whatever distro you want under WSL, and the default is Ubuntu.

[@R.B.]

You can, but without a package manager like apt or pacman, it isn't very conducive. I'd like to see them provide a set of developer tools with maybe a `wslget` to be able to install them for dev work. I'm currently building a cross-platform Windows library and a light weight Linux environment would be ideal. For this environment I don't need all the user or gWSL capabilities that an Ubuntu distro would provide, so this seems like it would be ideally suited for my needs.

[@incandescentwithrage]

Just run it using hyper-v

[@R.B.]

@@incandescentwithrage then you lose all the other advantages of WSL. There are 1000 different ways to accomplish what I'm doing, both with and without Microsoft Linux 3.0 shells, but if we consider what WSL is made for, supporting developers, and what Microsoft Linux 3.0 is made for, a lightweight Linux distro which can run processes for Azure VMs, there's an overlap where this could be a default base image for WSL which also then helps validate that something being worked on in WSL will deploy to Azure. What I am using now works, but this seems like it would align strongly with my needs. Looking at the GitHub, I'm not alone with that thought.

[@rainsgooi9281]

instead of black and white kernel panic, we will have blue and white (with qr code) kernel panic soon

[@bigwave_dave8468]

Gee, they should rename it something catchy and like "Xenix" ;-)

[@SchoolforHackers]

Or heck, M$ Unix…

[@igfoobar]

Something with a "u" and an "x" in it so you know it's unix-like ... how about "Microsux".

[@NdxtremePro]

So, it should have X and Wayland, it is what is used in a separate VM for WSL for a Display Server to display GUI apps.

[@foobarf8766]

Gonna build and run wine in this to complete my application for the asylum

[@censoredeveryday3320]

"Microsoft Linux 3.0" -- Just the title makes my blood boil

[@ddmayne1]

I assume other packages could sit on top al-a Linux from Scratch or build from source al-a Gentoo. A deisgn philosophy and a compiler toolset is the only requirement. Telling people that they can't do something is often a great motivator. I don't think I will waste any precious time on it, but who knows what a few talented folks might be able to bolt on. Windows 1, 2, 3 and 95 were bolted onto MS DOS, after all.

[@akaalkripal5724]

Microsoft's Linux is like Bill Gate's 'philanthropy' ... no WYSIWYG

[@Practical-IT]

It would be interesting if this evolved, or a variant evolved to do things the old Microsoft Home Server did, but with a web management interface. I'm not that interested in it myself, having used Linux for >25 years, but it might find its niche.

[@STONE69_]

Microsoft along with the biggest Tech Companies use Linux and contribute to Linux.

[@chiefeditort3chasia539]

I must admit, 110 - 115 MB RAM usage when idle is pretty impressive, AWS and Digital Ocean may have unlocked their new nightmare.

[@Doesntcompute2k]

Alpine Linux. Better in every way.

[@User9681e]

Many Linux distros can get lower anyway unused ram is worse

[@chiefeditort3chasia539]

@@Doesntcompute2k Alpine is more like general purpose Linux because Alpine have desktop environments. If you own cloud computing units, the last thing you want is extra storage from desktop environment libraries which you will never need anyway.

[@oappi4686]

​@@chiefeditort3chasia539 i think many are mixing alpine linux docker image and alpine linux iso. Alpine linux is actually around 200MB, but alpine linux light or what ever projects are using for minimalist docker image is under 30mb for nginx, which is pretty good. But yea, at least in AWS cloud if you need VM:s, you are most likely doing something inefficiently compared to containers. If you want commercial solution: redhat/Suse. Alpine/ubuntu probably best free ones. MS being so hostile towards Linux that I would stay away. Just look at MS Teams support for linux. They are basically selling that crap cheaply to keep companies on Microsoft ecosystem.

[@nicovandyk3856]

Thanks for the content Gary!

[@GaryExplains]

My pleasure!

[@cedar5616]

Wow I super forgot about Azure Linux

[@Wfmike]

Why the hate. As a .net core dev using azure. Vast majority of my applications are linux based. Microsoft is investing more in Linux tooling than windows.

[@dvdvnr]

Those of us with long memories of Microsoft's antics will never forgive them.

[@GaryExplains]

@dvdvnr That is a very toxic attitude. Ballmer isn't the CEO any more. You need to move on, the rest of us have.

[@axelBr1]

@@GaryExplains Microsoft destroyed a lot of innovative companies and software, holding back advances in technology and is still overcharging users, for example, it's not possible where I live to buy a computer without Windows pre-installed due to Microsoft's OEM licensing "deal". MS Office etc. haven't had meaningful updates in years, yet the license fee is ridiculous.

[@dvdvnr]

@@GaryExplains Sorry, but no. Their telemetry, ramping up of ads in the OS, removal of useful features (Quickstart), making access to things harder (e.g. Win11 interface right-click), and general contempt for "customers" who are treated only as more data suppliers shows that they are still not to be trusted. Those who have "moved on" are just accepting that they will be shafted forever - some of us refuse to bow to their excesses.

[@Wfmike]

@@dvdvnr Unfortunately that's true for all big tech companies. never mind facebook and Amazon, even Google has been removing features from ASOP Android and forcing OEMs to use GMS version where they can monetize the user base.

[@mjdxp5688]

I've always wanted to try installing Microsoft Edge on Microsoft Azure Linux. Apparently people have gotten Xfce to run on it after a lot of pain, so it SHOULD be possible. Also, it would be really funny.

[@VicariousAdventurer]

"Not planning to replace the Windows Kernel" - Well, at least the idea can percolate around Microsoft. When Linus Torvalds flies into Redmond, all bets are off...

[@GameCode64]

It would be nice if MS Linux would replace the windows server family and integrating native support for ADFS and ADDC and stuff, fully cmd/bash/powershell based. Would be even nicer if they re-use the powershell commands to install all those things

[@DK-ox7ze]

If this is available in Azure and intended for cloud then why install it on bare metal cloud yourself? Is it cheaper that way?

[@chiefeditort3chasia539]

From devops point of view, I would like an Azure Linux server standing by just in case there is an error 500 which traced back to library missing.

[@sabbyreloaded]

Does it have docker packages as well? I saw a containerd package and was hoping docker would be able to run using the containerd bit

[@bertblankenstein3738]

Well, considering how turned off i am with all recent versions of windows, and the nonstop pestering that MS does about an account, cloud storage, etc, etc, I won't touch anything MS. They really turned me off, and it seems I'm not alone.

[@ezrakoper]

Can you please upload a demo video showing some practical use of it just for better understanding.

[@FurqanHun]

so it's based on fedora, why would i use azure linux in a vm or cloud when fedora has a better systems and uses similar amount of resources, aside from workstation edition fedora has fedora cloud, fedora server and core os (which is optimized for containers). Tho i can see how it can be a good thing for enterprises or someone who works closely in azure ecosystem. Ig this would make microsoft to keep their service compatible with linux systems at least.

[@bigpod]

it is not fedora based, it uses same package manager, RPM which is considered linux standard same frontend for it aka DNF but thats about it when it comes to similarities

[@FurqanHun]

@@bigpod i was gonna say RH linux at first but then read their README file, DNF isn't the only thing, they use more stuff derived from fedora/rh. In acknowledgement they mention "The Fedora Project for SPEC files, particularly with respect to Qt, DNF and content in the SPECS-EXTENDED folder." Spec files are not something that ship with the package manager but rather provided by the maintainers separately, well they define how the package is packaged... and it can be different even for systems using the same package manager.

[@bigpod]

@@FurqanHun yea but azure linux uses an amalgamation of these spec files from many different distros so its unfair to say its fedora based

[@FurqanHun]

@@bigpod that's fair, but to me it just looks like a lower tier variant of bare bones fedora with better ms cloud compatibility/support.

[@bigpod]

@@FurqanHun it is not fedora they may use some fedora packages but that doesnt mean its fedora, because its then also proton os and so on

[@shirins.9134]

is it only works on vm ware or can be regular dual boot?

[@majidp1981]

Can’t wait for the first service pack for Linux.

[@Lofote]

When was the last time, Microsoft used the term "Service Pack" ;)?

[@mumbakayoba3082]

What happened to speedtest G 😢

[@cicalinarrot]

Coca Cola has just released a new Pepsi. Wat

[@Lofote]

Except Microsoft did do UNIX and LINUX since decades, people just forget about it, especially black-and-white-thinking ones ;)

[@chromerims]

Will it exclude Cortana?

[@xellaz]

A much as I like Linux and use it as my daily driver, some apps are just not supported enough or runs unstable on it like Waydroid. I had to use a mini-PC with Win11Pro on it (debloated) to run a stable Android emulator. No crash at all. 😗

[@paula.jackson5463]

THX Gary, good overview and may give it a spin!

[@sunrocketz6489]

Microsoft and Linux in 1 sentence. The cursed combo

[@CaribouDataScience]

I can remember when M$ was cursing Linux. 😊

[@kensmith5694]

They still are. This is part of Embrace, Extend, Exterminate.

[@User9681e]

Yes but they can't afford to be hacked so they gotta run Linux

[@TheDragShot]

​@@kensmith5694 we're going full steam ahead into phase 2 with this one 🗣️📢

[@BayuSanjaya]

Linux is a cancer that attaches itself in an intellectual property sense to everything it touches. - Microsoft CEO

[@nolram]

20 years ago lol

[@waynestewart1919]

Interesting. I am concerned about the three Es of MS.

[@ColinMcCormack]

Looked at systemd?

[@bigpod]

i am not to me it seems its all about right tool right usecase, they had a networking OS based on linux called SONiC since mid 2010s and CBL-mariner and Azurelinux and before that CBL-mariner arent really new things(CBL-mariner had first public release in 2020). at the end of the day if they want to be competitive in modern cloud native container space ecosystem they need to care about linux since they are a cloud provider, docker primarily runs linux(yes docker desktop is a thing but it runs a VM of linux or much less popular windows contianers) and every container only runs on kernel it was created for so most containers need linux. kubernetes is a huge thing as well.

[@nolram]

You do know Microsoft are like… the biggest open source contributor at the moment right? They publish more open source software than any other tech company.

[@agungbuana6796]

Apparently the world really needs another linux distro

[@GaryExplains]

Tailored for a specific cloud service and supported by that cloud service? Yes, it does.

[@sarreqteryx]

if it's using DNF for it's package manager, couldn't you add the Fedora repositories?

[@GaryExplains]

Maybe, but the dependencies probably won't match. I tried install various Fedora .rpm packages but the dependencies were the problem.

[@rssbasdf]

they can update the wsl?

[@Lightbeerer]

I would actually love to see an actual desktop Microsoft Linux. For the novelty of it, but I also think it could actually be a success. And as Redhat/IBM has shown, GPL does not prevent you from hiding the source code or making money off of it. And what would a desktop MS Linux look like? It would obviously have all their best apps - Office suite, VS Code, Edge, powershell ... systemd ... Maybe develop their own desktop environment/window manager to make it look more Microsofty?

[@vamsi9520]

Could u make video on Intel Lunar lake Processors

[@Derpalerpa]

I do wish they did release a full, official linux distro that's ready for use and approved by them. Maybe then they'd actually release office for Linux. Ugh.

[@cdom502]

We need gnome smb and wine support asap 😂

[@EnterpriseKnight]

I can't wait for Linux 11, the first distro that kernel panics every time you right click.

[@kreeger2010]

what about docker

[@joeschmoe3815]

Well, M$ had their own version of a real UNIX too. It was called 'Minix', so it doesn't really surprise me.

[@GaryExplains]

I think you mean Xenix, Minix was something else.

[@hhvictor2462]

Seems like Win11 has nothing to worry about.

[@shaurz]

I'll wait for Microsoft Linux 3.11 for Workgroups

[@MaxPower-11]

Just to remind everyone that Microsoft was one of the first vendors to offer a Unix-like operating system: Xenix

[@thechillhacker]

I'm SHOCKED just *SHOCKED* M$ didn't include Samba in their loonix. OK, maybe not THAT shocked,,,

[@martin4787]

Why the hell would you want anything Microsoft???

[@mx338]

because they sell pretty much every software a business needs, well integrated, with competitive prices, I like it for work, but with all my personal computing I also stay away from Microsoft.

[@martin4787]

@@mx338 I switched to Linux 12 years ago after messing with it for about 10 years and I've never failed to find a programme in Linux that won't do the same as a paid for Windows programme. No more blue screen of death, when you're working and there's no more update that has to be installed immediately, no more virus's and no more Microsoft spyware, to name but a few. Switching to Linux was the best thing I've done since owning a computer for over 30 years. In fact, Mrs Martin switched 10 years ago and has never used Windows since and she's not pc savvy by any means. Even the German government is switching to Linux.

[@rustyroy5385]

@@martin4787 You don't get a BSOD in Linux, but it still crashes. Depending on the distro you may still get prompted to install updates, and a failed kernel update can brick your OS just like Windows. There's no equivalent to Photoshop available for Linux (no, GIMP isn't an equivalent), just as there's no equivalent for some Linux software available for Windows. Linux, Windows, MacOS all have their own issues, no need to fanboy one over the other.

[@martin4787]

@@rustyroy5385 I haven't a clue what BSOD so I couldn't comment. With updates you don't have to install it, you can do the install when it suits you. Photoshop is another one I don't use, but I do use Libre instead of Adobe. The other thing with Linux is you don't need to buy a new PC to run the latest editions. I haven't heard of kernel updates bricking a pc, but I'm sure it must happen on rare occasions. Windows costs a lot of money, takes control of your pc, spies on you and is riddled with virus's, where opensource is generally free and virus free and allows to alter your chosen flavour and is a much better OS imo.

[@mohitkumar-jv2bx]

BASED

[@JOELwindows7]

Hmmm *_Built on _**_-NT-_**_ Azure Technology_* 😂😂😂

[@kensmith5694]

I think my first thing would be to do a careful calibration on how far I can throw it so I can start working out how far I would trust it. I can run Windows-10 under VirtualBox on my Linux Mint machine so I have a solution if there was need to run Win-10. I also have Windows-98 on the VirtualBox so I can run that too.

[@janisvaskevics93]

Who, in the right mind, would choose microsoft linux for their system?

[@GaryExplains]

Would you say the same about those using Azure in general?

[@janisvaskevics93]

@@GaryExplains having used their hosted SQL services together with PowerBi awefulness long ago, i would have to admit that. Just like buying sportscar for food delivery, knowing it will be unreliable moneypit.

[@turtlefrog369]

@@GaryExplains yes

[@GaryExplains]

@turtlefrog369 Do you use any Microsoft, Google or Apple products? You are using KZbin, so that seems to imply you don't have a problem with Google as its data collection and advertising etc.

[@janisvaskevics93]

@@GaryExplains definately.

[@f-s-r]

Of course they won't release a graphical desktop version. That could give people the idea of ditching "Windows Spyware OS 11" for good...

[@iAPX432]

Essentially this is Linux without Linux capabilities and software. Extinguish?

[@GaryExplains]

In the context that it is designed for cloud services, what software and features are missing?

[@Luix]

Is it on WSL?

[@GaryExplains]

Did you watch the video?

[@Luix]

@@GaryExplains I did, still my question is if can I test it on WSL or I need vmware/virtualbox to test it offline

[@brianschuetz2614]

@@LuixHe said in the video that it isn't available on WSL. That's why he asked if you watched the video.

[@Luix]

@@brianschuetz2614 oh I see

[@JohnLovell-FTW]

It will have 14 more names before January.

[@zaxchannel2834]

I already make powershell my default shell, use MS Fonts, grabbed a theme, use edge, and got microsoft calculator for shits and giggles. Close enough

[@Elizabeth-vh6il]

Potentially competing with Windows Server 2022 to some extent though?

[@igorthelight]

Windows Server silently died when Microsoft themselves switched from it to Linux on Azure Clouds ;-)

[@bigpod]

​@@igorthelight host os for Azure servers is what is called Azure Host OS sometimes refered to as Cloud Host its essentially minimal viable windows for hyperV and auth based on what i read today while reading about another Azure topic

[@igorthelight]

@@bigpod Oh so they are still using it!

[@bigpod]

@@igorthelight yea, but it is true that most VMs on hosts are Linux based

[@timgibney5590]

@@bigpod Azure is a seperate operating system than Windows Server but is in the same family. It is like saying Windows Server is Windows desktop

[@gunnarfernqvist4896]

Why not just call it MSDOS 7.0 and make alias for like "dir"="ls" and so on...

[@GaryExplains]

😱

[@myne00]

Microsoft started out selling a Unix variant

[@GP40Milepost72]

Linux Mint with Timeshift for me!

[@BandanazX]

110MB RAM... almost as small as Debian.

[@energymarketchile]

I bet it has a green death screen...

[@mrrolandlawrence]

Surprised they did not continue the xenix name!

[@GaryExplains]

You think the brand/name "Xenix" would be better received/recognized than Linux? I don't think so.

[@mrrolandlawrence]

@@GaryExplains i meant as the name of the MS distro.

[@GaryExplains]

@mrrolandlawrence So did I. Azure is known. Linux is known. But not so much Xenix.

[@mrrolandlawrence]

@@GaryExplains Just us old timers know then ;) Keep up the good work.

[@Barnardrab]

Is this Microsoft acknowledging that their software is inefficient?

[@GaryExplains]

I don't think it is about efficiency. Windows is primarily a desktop OS. It is even in the name "windows". While there are server versions etc, but Linux has clearly won the day in terms of servers and today cloud services. Microsoft is just providing what the market wants.

[@motoryzen]

​@@GaryExplainsMicrosoft hasn't provided with the market has wanted in more than 21 years easily. Nobody wants to be spied on or there are there rights of property ownership and control and management disrespected. Get real

[@GaryExplains]

@motoryzen Amazing. A company that doesn't provide what people want has managed to become one of the world's largest companies. 🤷‍♂️

[@motoryzen]

@@GaryExplains just because the vast majority of people still don't critically think 5 seconds in front of their faces and learn to question why they're getting all these little ads built into the operating system while they're getting all these viruses does it mean that the company is providing what they want the company is providing what the company thinks the people want and the people are just gullible morons all they care about is that it just does what they needed to do. Is call critical thinking. Look it up

[@motoryzen]

@@GaryExplains and the only reason why the vast majority if not 99% of all computers sold throughout the past multiple decades has been because Windows has had a monopoly on that business. It's not like anything I've said has ever been a secret

[@jpdj2715]

YAFUD et nother cking istro. Note that "Linux" is just Linus's kernel and a few bits. Every "distro" has to turn that into an "operating system". There already may be 200 different ones, so there's nothing new here. The distro is the operating system. As Linus says, the desktop distros are a nightmare for application packaging. And even between versions of distros are differences.

[@rossjennings4755]

Why would you compile a desktop environment from source on Microsoft Azure Linux when there's all kinds of distros out there that make it much easier? I feel like the answer is obvious: bragging rights! I mean, imagine the video titles and thumbnails you could get out of that.

[@roccociccone597]

No thank you, I’ll stick to Debian/rocky Linux for my home lab stuff

[@GaryExplains]

Probably a good idea!

[@redsarg99]

anyone on here actually used it and can comment on how it stacks up against other Cloud OSes (AWS, Ubuntu Core, etc) rather than making useless remarks! Thanks in advanced

[@bigpod]

for my usecase of testing a kubernetes cluster in azure Worked just fine

[@danbaldry1925]

isn’t this like quitting smoking by taking up cigars?

[@tsclly2377]

So if you want a gui, well guess it might be easiest to run it out of Chrome/Chromium

[@LilaHikes]

First version of Linux that BSoD.

[@TheCurtisnixon]

Why bother? Someone is going to try. Just because they can...

[@murdoch9106]

I know it would be pointless but now I want this to take off like crazy and people starting to base a Desktop distro off this, another "Windows Alternative".... something looking like Windows 3.11 maybe, some light weight desktop environment. "I run Microsoft btw." ...please internet, make this happen! please! xD I know we got too many distro's already but whats one more gonna hurt anything! ;P

[@jamesbutler5570]

I call bullshit. If they are serious about linux, they would make specific software pakets for debian. AD, full smb, etc

[@chiefeditort3chasia539]

Azure started more than a decade ago. It is serious money on serious industry.

[@igorthelight]

They don't care about Linux - they care about their Azure that runs on Linux ;-)

[@UltimatePerfection]

I can't wait for Microsoft Linux 95 that will come right after Microsoft Linux 3.11

[@techrazor3280]

Seems like, comments here were posted in hurry by Linux users. MS Linux is nothing about win11 substitute.

[@suki4410]

Any security leaks in Azure Linux?

[@GaryExplains]

What is a security leak? And why would there be a "security leak" in Azure Linux and not in other Linux distros?

[@kensmith5694]

The smart money is on yes, as always

[@kensmith5694]

@@GaryExplains Does it phone home to Microsoft? If so, there can be an obvious leak of security information. Does it have the patch for the 0.0.0.0 IP address problem? I would assume so for any other Linux today.

[@GaryExplains]

@kensmith5694 It is open source, have you checked?

[@suki4410]

​The time to do a proper review, would be better invested in debian gnu linux. This is not free software.😊​@@GaryExplains

[@marcq1588]

I love that! Microsoft "Linux" server that will not give Samba share to allow "Microsoft computers" to connect to it! So Microsoft Intelligence... Not A.I... but M.I.... Not the same level!

[@GaryExplains]

For context, Azure Linux is designed for the cloud and the last thing you want to do is allow SMB access on an Internet server.

[@botobeni]

They should call it Microsux

[@kstaxman2]

Doesn't sound like it's for anyone but someone using Microsoft cloud services.

[@greblus]

I want too see Steve Ballmer using this... cancer. Yes, I feel old.

[@paulw7404]

Wouldnt touch it with a electric cattle prod. "Is Windows 11 in danger of extinction"... Pity M$ doesnt go ...

[@doogie812]

All with Microsoft spy hooks built in for your big brother happiness.

[@GaryExplains]

Really? You have proof of that?

[@igorthelight]

Most likely not - that's not the OS that most people would ever use. It's very niche.

[@harry-smith404]

It is a server os for azure, another click bait

[@GaryExplains]

The title is, "Microsoft Linux 3.0 is Out - Is it Good for a Home Lab?"