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Microsoft Surface Pro 8 Review - So Much Better!

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Matthew Moniz

Matthew Moniz

Күн бұрын

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@MatthewMoniz
@MatthewMoniz 2 жыл бұрын
I love the Surface Pro 8. The experience is fantastic but the price not so much. What do you guys think?
@123Suryasis
@123Suryasis 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's overpriced and the use cases are very limited for such a pricy device, blame that 4 core cpu. I mean $1600 tablet is for just basic stuffs you've mentioned...is not really helping. Lenovo X1 tablet may be a better alternative if you really want a detachable device.
@TeoBranzell
@TeoBranzell 2 жыл бұрын
Great review as always! Think it's too expensive (and too little storage) I'm currently looking for a good 2 in 1 laptop. Some of the laptops that I'm considering are the HP envy x360 R7 15 (as it's basically what I'm looking for at a great price). I'm also considering the specter x360 14 (for the screen, but it is almost 40% more expensive than the envy...) I have also looked at some of the Yoga laptops as they also seem to be good, but not as good of a value... I know that HP has released their new specter x360 16 inch recently. Are you planning to review it, as I can't find ANY reviews of it on youtube...? It would be incredible to see it compared to other 2 in 1 laptops.
@ShawnShaman
@ShawnShaman 2 жыл бұрын
Love it. I've always been a fan of the surface line... But I agree - price is a bit high. These devices should be $999 at most.
@oldbot64
@oldbot64 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree about the price. But I also don't see a lot of people complaining about Apple's new prices starting at $2000 🤔 lol both are still a dream for most folks sadly.
@technologyanimals
@technologyanimals 2 жыл бұрын
I have the Pro X and it looks very similar screen size-wise. Finally decent-looking bezels.
@steveb3944
@steveb3944 2 жыл бұрын
I've had this exact model (black/red as well!) for nearly a week now, it's my first surface. So far this thing is absolutely amazing! It does everything I want and the portability/battery make it worth the premium in my opinion. Excellent device.
@hooby7045
@hooby7045 2 жыл бұрын
Same, they are incredible
@midloran
@midloran 2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried to gaming on it? Lol
@hooby7045
@hooby7045 2 жыл бұрын
@@midloran I've done some video editing on it and it ran it pretty well, I played a couple games but they're not really that intensive so I can't really say anything about that, but it should run medium games pretty well. It's definitely not a gaming device, if you're going to spend over a thousand for gaming just by a gaming PC
@sneezygibz6403
@sneezygibz6403 2 жыл бұрын
@@midloran you can play games through ultimate game pass cloud otherwise I'd stick with the laptop studio
@Michael-vf5id
@Michael-vf5id 2 жыл бұрын
Really ?. there is so many reviews online saying it has overheating issues and screen flickering issues and that the quality control is not very good ?.
@JustinSCampbell
@JustinSCampbell 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you about the pen. I think the reviewers who have been dissing it haven't used the original surface slim pen since 2019. I've come from the Surface Pro X and it's a big difference. The new pen feels like writing on paper.
@nick-dogg
@nick-dogg 2 жыл бұрын
I wish other brands would start working in making more tablet style windows 2 in 1’s.
@KungPowEnterFist
@KungPowEnterFist Жыл бұрын
The 9 is out now. No audio jack is a huge miss for me. Now thinking to get the 8 to replace my 6. First thing I notice is the horrible placement of the power and volume. The 6 has them on the top left, and that is the best place. Ugh, for this price...
@bradavon
@bradavon 2 жыл бұрын
Worth remembering he's talking about Canadian dollars :). Shouldn't need to mention the US price really, but worth knowing.
@meihc2528
@meihc2528 2 жыл бұрын
No this is all in usd unfortunately as a Canadian the prices are a decent chunk more:(
@henryohm3841
@henryohm3841 2 жыл бұрын
I just purchased my Surface 8 2 days ago. It is my 4th Surface since I started with the Surface 4 on Offer Up. I purchased one for 50 bucks because the student was leaving far away to anotehr college and it was her last hour here and she just needed to get rid of it. Of course I was skeptical, but it turned out soo good, that years later, Im here with a 4th one. I'm an I.T and use extensive CPU-eating programs, very few laptops can hold on to what I throw at them. The surface 6 held out Soo good (i-5, 16gb) so I purchased this 8, and so far, she is handling it like a boss. I use CCTV programs that decode Video and Audio, and I can run them ALL day with as much programs as I want, It will NOT slow down one bit. These Surface laptops are VERY well made, It sucks to hear how soo many people are negative about them when they have no clue on how well they can perform under load. Kudo Microsoft for the Surface Pro line. Id pay a thousand more for them (no I won't, they are ghastly expensive) But I sure wish they would come with at least a pen. 5 Stars from Me. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
@AndrewSheldon
@AndrewSheldon Жыл бұрын
Two things I don't like about this upgrade, and its my 3rd surface Pro. The problems I have is: (i) I don't feel I'm getting a better laptop. Even if its faster, with new software, it seems the same. I do appreciate the faster charging and 2 USB-type C ports. The big issue is the on/off button is poorly placed. I pack the device in my bag and I can hear the computer starting up. This has happened to me several times. Its concerning because a stowed 'on' computer can overheat and cause fires. So safety issue. I just expected a speed difference. I'm not feeling it. I love the device though.
@atimholt
@atimholt 2 жыл бұрын
I loved my 2017 Surface Pro (“5”), but it died about a year ago. I got a desktop to replace it, and it's much more powerful. However, I really miss the form factor, so I've finally given in and ordered the Surface Pro 8.
@henryohm3841
@henryohm3841 2 жыл бұрын
Have you received your Surface 8 yet? How do you like it so far? I just picked up mine, It will be my 4th one, and I haven't put it down.
@ludwingadrian
@ludwingadrian Жыл бұрын
How do you like it
@atimholt
@atimholt Жыл бұрын
@@ludwingadrian I like it very much. I preferred the older form factor (bezels exist for a reason on tablets) and Windows 11 is a disaster, but it gets the job done.
@govindkrishnalb
@govindkrishnalb 2 жыл бұрын
Dynamic refresh rate feature will roll out in future, they told it in the windows 11 launch.
@tuckercoffin2164
@tuckercoffin2164 2 жыл бұрын
So in like 2 years?
@govindkrishnalb
@govindkrishnalb 2 жыл бұрын
@@tuckercoffin2164 No, in like 2 months
@tuckercoffin2164
@tuckercoffin2164 2 жыл бұрын
@@govindkrishnalb ok let’s see and wait. Microsoft has been promising 64 but emulation since they released their first surface pro X and it only came now, 2 years laters, so I am kinda skeptical of Microsoft’s promises
@govindkrishnalb
@govindkrishnalb 2 жыл бұрын
@@tuckercoffin2164 bruh, dynamic refresh rate isn't as hard as 64 bit emulation on ARM. They already showed the feature, they are experimenting with 0-hz to 120Hz rather than 60 to 120 hz. thats why it's taking some time. But you may be right, Microsoft is a slow snail sometimes. anyways lets see and hope for the best.
@henryohm3841
@henryohm3841 2 жыл бұрын
@@govindkrishnalb Great reply!
@mohammedbinalimaqqavi6599
@mohammedbinalimaqqavi6599 Жыл бұрын
What would you suggest to a computer science student like me: a Microsoft surface pro 8 or MacBook air M2?
@angeliaphillips
@angeliaphillips 2 жыл бұрын
I so love the Surface series. This one is amazing but for now, Ii gotta stick with my much-loved Surface Pro 5. However, when I eventually have to upgrade, it'll likely be to the 8. Thx for the awesome review! ☺️👍
@jimroscovius
@jimroscovius Жыл бұрын
I have a Pro (current kitchen computer), Pro 3 (daughter has it), Pro 5 (which I traded in), and my current Pro 7, which I bought on sale. It's my desktop PC when plugged into my Surface Dock.
@MVIVN
@MVIVN 2 жыл бұрын
Just bought a Surface Pro to replace my 2016 iPad. It cost a lot but I'm looking forward to making it my new go-to portable machine. Got the i7 with 16GB ram and 512 GB ssd because I intend to be using it for some years.
@marieantoine
@marieantoine 2 жыл бұрын
How much did you pay for it? I'm planning to get one with the same specs too
@MVIVN
@MVIVN 2 жыл бұрын
@@marieantoine I'm in New Zealand so it cost me NZ$3,300 with the keyboard included thanks to a Black Friday deal. That translates to roughly US$2,250. Things end up costing a bit more for us here in NZ anyway due to import fees and whatnot.
@marieantoine
@marieantoine 2 жыл бұрын
@@MVIVN Oh. That price is actually close to the one being retailed here in Philippines. But without the keyboard and pen :(
@MVIVN
@MVIVN 2 жыл бұрын
@@marieantoine I just got lucky that there was a Black Friday deal, it basically subtracted the cost of the keyboard and pen so I thought it was a pretty good deal!
@Michael-vf5id
@Michael-vf5id 2 жыл бұрын
@@MVIVN How is it going to far i have heard the i7 model tends to overheat ?.
@cozyimmerse
@cozyimmerse 2 жыл бұрын
Surface Pro 7 user and I find this one to still be the best for me even though the 8 looks so nice. Personally don't need a pure desktop feel this thing does what I need without being too heavy, and with Windows 11 can be a tablet when I want.
@sdean96
@sdean96 2 жыл бұрын
How is your battery life? I have a 7 as well and only get around 4-5 hours of school work done before it needs to charge. Nothing intense either it’s mainly google suite and one note.
@cozyimmerse
@cozyimmerse 2 жыл бұрын
@@sdean96 Same here the with amount of battery for me it was 7-8 on Win 10 I felt like it was always about to die on me even if I'm not having multiple things open at the same time. But lately it's a little better to me on Win 11 usually have word, browser open with multiple tabs, usually my phone is connected with link to Windows, excel, and some file folder is open all for school mostly. With a few tabs open on another desktop window for my non school stuff. Checking my setting for screen on time I've got around for the last 24 hrs, about 9hrs and 43mins in the last 7 days it's been about 6hrs and 23 mins of screen on time. I don't use the surface type cover I'm using a knock off so Bluetooth is on always. 🤷🏽‍♀️ But honestly it is what it is i didn't expect to get the best battery life of any laptop let alone a portable tablet running windows but for me it was a good decision I've been using it ever since and I don't regret it.
@SirChickenMcNuggetTheThird
@SirChickenMcNuggetTheThird 2 жыл бұрын
@@sdean96 i have an surface pro 6 from 3 years ago and the battery still gets me like 6 hours, with wifi disabled one or two more :) It even has in some scenarious better battery life than my xps 9710 lol ^^ i got myself a 65wh powerbank with an usb c to surface connect adapter, to charge the surface on the go 👍
@themanunleashed
@themanunleashed Жыл бұрын
I have the Surface Pro 2 with an i5 processor with 128GB. It cost $999 without the type cover. I use it 3D modeling with SolidWorks and taking notes. it handles it well for those applications. I think an i7 processor is a bit of an overkill. Saving money with an i5 processor is enough for most applications. That's just my opinion. My surface is still running strong fyi due to the SSD drive.
@Trig0r
@Trig0r 2 жыл бұрын
I started with the Surface RT, then the Pro, Pro 2 (when it became my main machine with 8Gb RAM), Pro 3 and finally the Pro 5, I really miss having one vs the Lenovo laptop I have for work now, but cant justify one for personal use when I have a decent desktop...
@trish1765
@trish1765 2 жыл бұрын
Would this be ideal if the main reason for purchase was using it with my cricut machine for projects. I was told yes because of the graphics? Feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
@henryohm3841
@henryohm3841 2 жыл бұрын
It works PERFECT with the Cricut machine.
@duylinhnguyen290
@duylinhnguyen290 2 жыл бұрын
I'm really confused why Surface Go was provided a keyboard with a larger trackpad, but MS says not to SF Pro :)
@Venturello
@Venturello 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review! Quick question - I was going for gray surface with ‘ice’ keyboard but LOVE how the black one with red keyboard looks. But, how does the black finish on the Surface react to scratches? Will they show gray? My thinking is on gray surface scratches won’t show much. I am worried on black, if it’s a layer of black finish (like anodized), that scratches will just show the gray of the material below. Scratches will happen and I would like my expensive device to look decent a few years down the road. Thanks!
@samlsecond8200
@samlsecond8200 2 жыл бұрын
i have an sp6 in black after an sp5 which was gray. the gray seemed unscratchable and the black 6 is indeed showing its scratches. i think your concern is valid
@uselessoldman7964
@uselessoldman7964 2 жыл бұрын
Buy yourself the Kingston armour cover well worth the small investment
@andyhaber89
@andyhaber89 2 жыл бұрын
If it is still made of magnesium like the sp7 then the black is painted on, which can chip off. I wish they would use aluminum like apple so that it could be anodized instead.
@Venturello
@Venturello 2 жыл бұрын
@@andyhaber89 no the body is no longer magnesium but aluminum, one of the reasons it is heavier. So wondering if it is anodized now?
@nickgennady
@nickgennady 2 жыл бұрын
I think when Intel releases there rise-v chips next year (apparently) these surface products will be even much better.
@Ryuudo123
@Ryuudo123 2 жыл бұрын
"Next year the devices will be even better." captain obvious to the rescue!
@nickgennady
@nickgennady 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ryuudo123 well most people don’t know about intel’s risc-v chips so im not really being caption obvious. Weird how you kept that part out. You make a good politician or Journalist.
@uselessoldman7964
@uselessoldman7964 2 жыл бұрын
if they went to AMD there would be no competition
@nickgennady
@nickgennady 2 жыл бұрын
@@uselessoldman7964 They should have AMD versions as you get better specs for same price, less heat generated and less power needed. There has to be backroom deal or Microsoft is plain dumb which is possible.
@uselessoldman7964
@uselessoldman7964 2 жыл бұрын
@@nickgennady obviously Intel is offering Microsoft as great deal on their processors which they should do cos compared to AMD there crap
@classikz
@classikz 2 жыл бұрын
Not remotely comparable to an iPad. iOS is not mature enough to do anything meaningful.
@limseangea8637
@limseangea8637 2 жыл бұрын
Can't agree more 👍
@foxtrot22charlie
@foxtrot22charlie 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, By the way, your roll in "Starship Troopers" was underrated...
@Gonzax
@Gonzax 2 жыл бұрын
The lack of a microSD slot is a big letdown for me. Other than that it's really great but I won't be upgrading until the card slot is back.
@metalliholic
@metalliholic 2 жыл бұрын
Did they remove the micro sd card expansion?
@Gonzax
@Gonzax 2 жыл бұрын
@@metalliholic Yes, no card slot anymore. They already removed it in the Surface Pro X and now again. I'm not willing to pay 300-400€ more for a higher-capacity model when I can just buy a 512GB microSD for 100€.
@henryohm3841
@henryohm3841 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gonzax Why would you want an SD card slot if you can swap out the SSD now?
@Gonzax
@Gonzax 2 жыл бұрын
@@henryohm3841 Because it's cheaper, because that type of SSD is hard to come by and not cheap, because I don't want to reinstall the OS, because you lose the guarantee if you change it, because an SD card slot comes in very handy in many situations, because I have several SD cards I could keep using if there was a slot for them, without spending a single penny and mostly because with a device so expensive as the Pro 8 the last thing I want is to spend one single dollar on it to do something I could have for free in previous models.
@marieantoine
@marieantoine 2 жыл бұрын
No one's buying it without the type cover? I was planning to buy this without the type cover though hahaha Since it has bluetooth, I'll just connect my wireless mechanical keyboard and mouse and I'm all good! But after checking out what you suggested (HP Spectre x360) I think I'm swerving XD
@marieantoine
@marieantoine 2 жыл бұрын
@@Quayledant which one did you get? The 13 or 14 or 15 inch?
@arushh42
@arushh42 2 жыл бұрын
Get a MacBook Air
@henryohm3841
@henryohm3841 2 жыл бұрын
I purchased it without the Type cover. ..............................Then 4 Hours later, i walked in to another Best Buy and got the Type Cover.
@scottcraig920
@scottcraig920 Жыл бұрын
Do you think the 16gb over 8gb is pointless for a student who will only really use it for note taking and writing essays and media consumption, maybe some excel/power point? Just thinking if the 8gb is future proof enough. The price jump is pretty significant at least in Canada.
@PhaethonCrafts
@PhaethonCrafts 2 жыл бұрын
While those other products may be cheaper, I’d still get the 8. My 7 died, shows the logo and then I get a black screen, my brother-in-law had the same problem before I did and I don’t trust the 7’s anymore because of it. My type cover stopped working for months and then randomly started working again, my pen died last month and this month it’s the Surface itself. I don’t trust the 7+ not to have the same issue. I’ve tried everything to fix it and nothing has worked. Maybe the 8 will work better? It has a better pen too and I need it for full Photoshop because I’m a graphic designer and the mobile Cintiq’s are expensive.
@tanvirabdullah4219
@tanvirabdullah4219 2 жыл бұрын
Hope Microsoft fixed the battery quality & bulging problem with the surface series.
@bradavon
@bradavon 2 жыл бұрын
Long overdue to upgrade the trackpad size on Surface Pros, lots of space there to increase it.
@bradavon
@bradavon 2 жыл бұрын
Can you compare it to the Surface Pro X please. No one's done this, despite being an obvious comparison. I'd like to particularly know how different the battery is in real world use. Thanks.
@tomswan3401
@tomswan3401 2 жыл бұрын
Pro x is running mainly arm apps and win64 apps with arm emulator. Pro 8 runs natively w64 and w32 apps. The battery life (and a lot of other things) are affected by that.
@israellewis5484
@israellewis5484 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomswan3401 i hope Microsoft is learning from Windows 11 Windows Subsystem for Android. To improve Windows on ARM.
@RK-um9tu
@RK-um9tu 2 жыл бұрын
SP8 is more powerful than SPX. Geek bench single core 1300s i5 and 1500s i7 compared to only 800 for SPX. SPX has better battery life. Over 12 hours compared to 9 hours of continuous KZbin viewing (40% brightness, battery saver on and wifi on).
@Fee.1
@Fee.1 2 жыл бұрын
You know why they can’t make it much cheaper though right? It’s crazy when you think about Apple printing money on iPad sales and Microsoft making nothing basically
@Fee.1
@Fee.1 2 жыл бұрын
@TheRealBandito that’s not a valid response at all 😑. Stating random facts isn’t a rebuttal.
@bdub8442
@bdub8442 Жыл бұрын
It doesn’t even come with the pen wtf
@BanachBeans
@BanachBeans 2 жыл бұрын
Looking at it I think if you already have the Surface Pro 7 it's not worth spending all that money to upgrade to the 8 but what does everyone else think?
@henryohm3841
@henryohm3841 2 жыл бұрын
Thunderbolt makes ALL the difference if you work with a lot of Data. If you don't, the 7 is just fine. That and the 120hz screen too. The pen and drawing are much much faster, scrolling is smoother, and the experience is more amazing.
@canalactivado
@canalactivado 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Matthew! *Have you tried open the "Camera" app with the Surface Pro 8 to see if can scan QR codes?* D: This feature is in the iPhone default camera app, but I wanted to know if the Surface Pro 8 with Windows 11 has it :o
@k4piii
@k4piii 2 жыл бұрын
The moral of the story is never pre-order! A few months later they will drop the price
@msp5138
@msp5138 2 жыл бұрын
Or buy Open-Box from Best Buy. My open-box 2020 SPX (SQ2, 16 ram, 512ssd) was only $599 (full retail price $1,799).
@k4piii
@k4piii 2 жыл бұрын
@@msp5138 sick deal buddy
@yahiaibrahim1412
@yahiaibrahim1412 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing review Mathew! I've got the i5 one, the charger makes faint buzzing sound when not connected to the tablet but plugged into the wall outlet. Is this normal?
@hassangabbani27
@hassangabbani27 2 жыл бұрын
Do u know other laptops which are 2 in 1 with 120 hz display? Other than the surface?
@AhmedEjteli
@AhmedEjteli 3 күн бұрын
Just bought it and was looking for a good video reviewing it and this is the best so far, thank you
@glub1381
@glub1381 6 ай бұрын
I do not understand how youre getting 12 hours of battery life on this thing. I recently got mine (refurbished, but the battery is at 97% capacity) and with battery saver on with the screen at 60 hz I barely get 6-7 while only using edge and onenote. It's enough for me, but it's still disappointing.
@BfSkinnerPunk
@BfSkinnerPunk 2 жыл бұрын
This is the first review I've seen where the battery life sounds decent. Most are saying they are LUCKY to get 6 hours. Other than the price, this is the biggest concern... especially when comparing to Apple. I suppose the biggest selling point of a Surface Pro is that it is an actual computer running the full sized applications. If the full integration with Android apps ever takes place, this will help ... in the sense that an actual eco-system with Android/Samsung will develop as a way to compete with that very nice Apple system.
@Michael-vf5id
@Michael-vf5id 2 жыл бұрын
I think this guy is probably getting paid to say those things. Because there have been alot of people saying it overheats and has screen flickering problems and all sorts of stuff.
@Crazyd_
@Crazyd_ 2 жыл бұрын
Android is coming to Windows 11 in the big update. Windows honestly is going to have a big advantage once you don't need an emulator for Android.
@taranullius9221
@taranullius9221 2 жыл бұрын
I love my Pro. You'd have to take it out of my cold, dead hands because it has given me freedom I wouldn't have with an ordinary laptop due to severe chronic pain (unusable design, I also cannot sit at desks). They're so light I can just have it on a little lap board on my special chair. The keyboard having being so flat and on the slant is a huge ergonomic improvement over laptops even if they've gotten slimmer over time. It doesn't hurt my wrists/arthritis and as they're sitting flat not unnatural angles. I also have full Windows and everything from office to major developer software on something this thin and light. That said the battery life has been horrific on every model I've ever had. If I were portable, I'd struggle but mine don't leave a power source. Is it worth the obscene price? Depends on individual use cases. I'd love an 8...just don't know if I can justify the price.
@taranullius9221
@taranullius9221 2 жыл бұрын
The 6, I'd lose 50% battery in less than 2 hours during power outage on minimum brightness and with only Chrome and required Windows processes left running.
@subspaceanomaly
@subspaceanomaly 2 жыл бұрын
He probably just checked his email and fiddled with it a bit and then left a video on loop to see how long it would last. Different to using photoshop or whatever
@CareyVandenberg
@CareyVandenberg 2 жыл бұрын
As a desktop user who also has a Surface the biggest downside to the Surface and the reason I still have to keep my desktop is that the Surface can only add 2 external monitors. My 7 yr old Dell PC can run 3 very big ones. With the Surface I'd have to use the small Surface monitor as my 3rd monitor which is a significant downgrade to what I've been using for over 10 years.
@user-uc5xo7yu7n
@user-uc5xo7yu7n 2 жыл бұрын
I seriously love this device, probably my favourite windows device. The price was a extreme let down. Maybe after 2~3 years I can buy it around 1000 for the 16gb...
@Niko-op3oz
@Niko-op3oz 2 жыл бұрын
sp7 400$ on eBay just bought one
@tameone
@tameone 2 жыл бұрын
Office Depot just had it for 1200 16gb and 512gb. What a steal!
@Niko-op3oz
@Niko-op3oz 2 жыл бұрын
@@tameone WOW I'm feeling a LILLL bit jealous!!! Have fun :D
@GurmeetSingh-fr8uo
@GurmeetSingh-fr8uo 2 жыл бұрын
Which spec and colour you go for? Which colour device and keyboard?
@missnesee
@missnesee 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes if you get it refurbished you can get them cheaper! :)
@OfficialHassanTaher
@OfficialHassanTaher 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review, a small note: Microsoft will bring an update to Surface Pro 8 to enable Dynamic Refresh Rate so it will switch automatically from 60 Hz to 120 Hz depending on the content and use case (such as scrolling). Of course, you did a review on how the product is today and you did a great job!
@andyH_England
@andyH_England 2 жыл бұрын
MS has given no timeline for that dynamic refresh and I do not believe it will be like Pro Motion allowing 10-120Hz so not great for battery life compared to proper tablets like the iPad Pro M1.
@MatthewMoniz
@MatthewMoniz 2 жыл бұрын
Totally and I should of mentioned this but i tend to stay away from future promises and review the product as it is now
@johnathanalman3601
@johnathanalman3601 2 жыл бұрын
Sleep dowm
@omarcortes5754
@omarcortes5754 2 жыл бұрын
I think this could be a good device for a desk setup.
@FriendlyPCGamers
@FriendlyPCGamers 2 жыл бұрын
This is best setup for Esports i think, 120 hz display and 12 fps xD
@tomswan3401
@tomswan3401 2 жыл бұрын
I think for a desk setup one can use a laptop (no 2 in 1 like the pro 8), laptops like mac m1 etc. pro 8 i think and i use mine for stuff when youre not sure if there will be a desk and you use it as laptop on your knees and sometimes as tablet.
@FriendlyPCGamers
@FriendlyPCGamers 2 жыл бұрын
@@taigaramsey8061 egpu sucks, a 3080ti will act as 3050ti otlr 3060 mobile. Watch Garrods tech's 1 year old video comparing the performance of egpu vs gpu. But this product is not for gamers at all, this is for people who do graphical work, one of my friend is cartoonist at bbc and he uses thia type of thing personally. Its for people who carry their tool and start working whever their brain catches an idea. Again one of my friend is copywriter at mccain ad agency, he uses hp spectre, he writes whenever he catches any idea, so he carry his laptop everywhere... you might have an idea of the type of use this product is focuses to.
@FriendlyPCGamers
@FriendlyPCGamers 2 жыл бұрын
@@taigaramsey8061 Yes egpu 2000usd surface pro then 1200 usd more in purchasing egpu encloses like asus sells, and purchase something like 3080ti so that it can perform like 3060 laptop and buy another 700 watt psu then come to know that the processor sucks, end up purchasing external monitor because this one is small for gaming, and end up purchasing desktop cpu for more clocks as ur egpu is giving 30 fps in AAA titles, then end up with external liquid cooling system. Maybe end up building desktop xD
@liamcollinson5695
@liamcollinson5695 2 жыл бұрын
Im loving the surface pro 8 designed but the price with the type cover is too much if they included one it would be a no brainer
@sahara2183
@sahara2183 2 жыл бұрын
i like that they're separate its more customizable
@liamcollinson5695
@liamcollinson5695 2 жыл бұрын
@@sahara2183 they could keep it the same way and include a type cover of your choice. they keep saying its a laptop after all
@Michael-vf5id
@Michael-vf5id 2 жыл бұрын
Yeh they really need to include the keyboard thats whats holding me back to be honest.
@saadmultani7251
@saadmultani7251 2 жыл бұрын
Can you please let me know how much battery life does it drain while watching 1080p video on KZbin for 1 hr at 35% brightness... can you please test and let me know. My surface pro 8 drains 12% .?
@vinitrinh
@vinitrinh 2 жыл бұрын
The maxed out surface pro 8 is just about as pricey as the base model of the macbook pro 14". They're two different products because you can't hand-write with a macbook, but I just can't help feel suckered to pay such a premium for so little compute.
@Drstrange3000
@Drstrange3000 2 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to decide if I want to buy the open box SP8 for $670. I think that is a lot better value. It is on sale new for $899 which is what I feel it should have cost.
@Crazyd_
@Crazyd_ 2 жыл бұрын
If you like Apple ecosystem I can see it, but as far as PC goes SP8 isn't that bad. Price wise I can get a laptop with more power and OLED screen, but it's going to cost a bit more. Microsoft is a mid teir laptop in a very small package which can double as a pad with power issues (laptop battery life)
@shrini04
@shrini04 2 жыл бұрын
You are undoubtedly confused.
@noamdoron7499
@noamdoron7499 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. I love your comments on new devices and new computers but what i really miss as is a long term review of that stuff. For us, the end users , as we do not buy any new machine that comes out and we do not replace those computers every second day , it would be very useful. It represent major investment and our pros and cons would be slightly different . Let's take durability ( highly important)or failure rates .We cannot run every few month to a lab or a service center.Another issue is battery deterioration (they all are). Take my case for an example , i run today a Macbook 2015 (A1502) that was serviced twice in those 7 years..... but i would like to replace it with an updated Windows computer and i know for a fact that the highly praised Dell would not have stood that test of time.. I am attracted to that surface 8 pro but the fully equipped will set me back 3000, would it will stand the test of time like a 3000 Macbook Pro?i have no idea and i have no way to find that info. regards.
@actionjumper42
@actionjumper42 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard mixed things. The battery is not replaceable, I think you can do it but it’s not easy. Also, people are still using their old surface pros, so I think it does do well long term.
@aelaan12
@aelaan12 2 жыл бұрын
I have always loved these Windows tablet / laptop but let's just not compare it to that fruity brand, because with the Surface Pro one gets a full Windows OS that actually can drive an external screen - yes I know.... just saying though
@oldbot64
@oldbot64 2 жыл бұрын
U mean the Passion fruit company?
@RidwanGosal
@RidwanGosal 2 жыл бұрын
You can't compare surface pro with iPad Pro. Because Microsoft ain't gonna piss off its OEM customers by releasing an aggressively priced products. It's kinda like the optimized intel laptops being sold by the Xenia brands, it's just a showcased at how good the intel processors are when you tune it properly.
@scc519
@scc519 2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts as well. I stopped watching after that.
@sloppynyuszi
@sloppynyuszi 2 жыл бұрын
The iPad Pro’s as are, are amazing tools, and if you know how to use them (which by your comment seems you don’t) they can be pushed. But it’s true that the use cases for these products based on operating systems are very different, so it doesn’t make much sense comparing them.
@Cyberman86
@Cyberman86 2 жыл бұрын
I love the surface pro because of its tablet capabilities and yes its better than the IPad Pro. However at about 1500 price the MacBook Pro M1 destroys and humiliates the Surface Pro 8 and they cost almost the same. I owned a SP8 but I also owned MacBook Pro for different purposes and benchmarks don’t lie. So that Fruity Brand with the M1 chip is humiliating higher end Laptops.
@eskibuzdolabi
@eskibuzdolabi 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, great review. Have you tried with Sketch UP web based? how doe sthe pen react?
@vanillamadeleines
@vanillamadeleines 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE UR REVIEWS SO MUCH
@MatthewMoniz
@MatthewMoniz 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you !
@ramlozano
@ramlozano 2 жыл бұрын
I love your reviews! By the way, where can we get the wallpaper you show in the video thumbnail? Thanks in advance!
@thunderroad6002
@thunderroad6002 2 жыл бұрын
A good, clear, honest review. Much appreciated!
@MillennialJesus
@MillennialJesus 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on how it would perform and the experience with android apps comparing to an android tablet? Obviously google play services isn't there but there's a guy who managed to install it (look it up) and others were able to sideload apks and alternative android app stores. Thanks
@nou4605
@nou4605 2 жыл бұрын
Why do you need Android apps on a fucking Windows PC. I don't get it.
@YTFERIVOQ
@YTFERIVOQ 2 жыл бұрын
What is the wallpaper on the thumbnail?
@cance7984
@cance7984 2 жыл бұрын
Do you recommend this for a landscape designer?
@nigelhammond2602
@nigelhammond2602 2 жыл бұрын
Having purchased the S8 Pro with the i5 8GB 512 which I find amazing I splashed out and purchased the i7 for business use and I have to say I don't find any difference in the performance between the i5 or the i7 (or none that I can see)
@msmellowmood84
@msmellowmood84 2 жыл бұрын
This is the one I got and it’s amazing.
@user-wp2bw6bg2t
@user-wp2bw6bg2t 2 жыл бұрын
so which one should I buy?
@Someone-pg3rn
@Someone-pg3rn 2 жыл бұрын
hey matt, how is the perfomance with that tablet with apps such as adobe, premier animate, photoghshop, andything like that, cause im deciding whether to get this microsoft surface tablet or just a drwing tablet to hook up to my laptop.
@Tsukinotaku
@Tsukinotaku 2 жыл бұрын
I really want one but Amazon isn't selling the 32gb model where I'm at yet I can't buy on the official store since ei can't pay in 4 times which is what I can afford until I receive my pay....
@MrMilkyCoco
@MrMilkyCoco 2 жыл бұрын
Wished apple was as nice as Microsoft to give a pen for free. I get it the surface isnt as popular but come on apple at least all pens for surface still work for new ones. I hate that the pen will have to be updated to a new one with each new ipad.
@dubbdotvee
@dubbdotvee Жыл бұрын
Would this be good for recording and editing podcasts?
@GraemeEdwards
@GraemeEdwards 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Matt - did you do any video call tests ? I am have a Surface Pro 7 I7 that is unusable on video calls due to thermal throttling. I am thinking of upgrading to the Pro 8 or the Surface Laptop 4
@keanusun9977
@keanusun9977 2 жыл бұрын
I like the wallpaper of the surface on the cover of your video. Could you tell me where I can get it?
@OCtheG
@OCtheG 2 жыл бұрын
I really want to get one to modify for use as a vehicle head unit but the price tag is the only thing sour for me.
@JPringle-rz6gc
@JPringle-rz6gc 9 ай бұрын
I love the Surface Pro lineup, but they are soo soooo expensive. Luckily, given my very non-intensive use case (web browsing, a lot of video streaming, light Office use, emailing), I can buy two generations behind and still have all the power I need. It's about time for me to start looking at an upgrade, and I think I'll go for the 8 this time I just love the form factor so much. And I don't like using a mobile OS for a tablet... Anything I would want to do with an Android tablet or iPad I could just do with my phone. Sometimes I just want a desktop experience.
@tektraxm
@tektraxm 2 жыл бұрын
3:40 The previous generations of Surface Pro were not covered by the TypeCover while in the "up" position. I havea Surface Pro 4 and like the Pro 8, the Type Cover only covers the bottom bezel....not the task bar (which you seems to be saying)..
@MatthewMoniz
@MatthewMoniz 2 жыл бұрын
I meant to say the surface pro x.
@user-xv7le9bh2m
@user-xv7le9bh2m Жыл бұрын
Can you charge this thing with a USB-c charger? Or do you HAVE to use the included magnetic charger
@alexisfelii
@alexisfelii 2 жыл бұрын
I have a question Is this Surface a good deal for working a lot with adobe programms (photoshop,premiere pro,illustrator)?
@henryohm3841
@henryohm3841 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is. I photoshop ALL the time with 0 issues. (i7-16gb, 256gb)
@ejay2343
@ejay2343 2 жыл бұрын
@@henryohm3841 Hey how does SP8 i7 handle multi-tasking? I currently have a SP7 i5- 8gb, 256gb and it can be unbelievably slow at times when I have it connected to a second screen with a youtube video in one corner with multiple tabs, a stock chart in another, and adobe illustrator on the tablet drawing. Find it freezing up or just crawling, ALOT. When its good its good, when its bad its bad. Have you had these problems on the SP8?
@BriefNerdOriginal
@BriefNerdOriginal 2 жыл бұрын
So sad you have to do that long seller intro for the sponsor at the beginning. But for the review, top. Thanks
@MatthewMoniz
@MatthewMoniz 2 жыл бұрын
Got to make money Francesco. It was only 45 seconds. Thanks for watching
@BriefNerdOriginal
@BriefNerdOriginal 2 жыл бұрын
@@MatthewMoniz I know. And hope it pays off. Because I really appreciate your reviews. So I'll stay tuned.
@georgeconnley2236
@georgeconnley2236 2 жыл бұрын
My i5 surface 7 128 gigs barely last a year with terrible battery life and has flickering, the charger created a weird residue on the port and the slot on the surface melts with the port over time. I really want either a 2 in 1 13 inch laptop. Seems like surface 8 will join the same fate but also might be better cause i believe all models have fans including the i5 now.
@M16xDr0pSh0tz
@M16xDr0pSh0tz 2 жыл бұрын
Wtf you talking about.. Been using my i5 SP7 128 gigs just fine for almost 2 years. I want an i7 SP8 now
@henryohm3841
@henryohm3841 2 жыл бұрын
WTH do you do with your Surface? I'm on my 4th Surface and NEVER had not 1 issue, especially a physical one. I can bet that your surface looks like it got in a fight with someone huh.
@SixSilverStones
@SixSilverStones 2 жыл бұрын
I have the surface pro 7 and have been considering upgrading. great review!
@henryohm3841
@henryohm3841 2 жыл бұрын
You should. I'd say to maybe wait till they go on sale, but being as they are popular right now, maybe hold off till July-Augist-ish for the sales.
@geo4393
@geo4393 2 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking of getting a surface pro 8. How would the i5 16GB one fare during startup or if I'm running multiple background apps like Discord+MS Teams+Onedrive+Zoom?
@stephengibbons4680
@stephengibbons4680 2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering where I can find the photo on the display in the thumbnail?
@XAnthonyKingXx.
@XAnthonyKingXx. Жыл бұрын
So, I buy a surface pro 8 but how do I redeem the code? Please help me
@gennarozanfardino854
@gennarozanfardino854 2 жыл бұрын
Finally a great 2 in 1 with thunderbolt 4 for eGPUs
@ameliabuns4058
@ameliabuns4058 2 жыл бұрын
EGPUs kinda suck sadly :( wish there was a standard x16 pci 4.0 port or x8 on the side of laptops like this
@ADoks-dp8om
@ADoks-dp8om 2 жыл бұрын
Thank yoooooooou Great job well done ✅👍 How about coding experience with surface pro 8? All the best and thanks again 🙏
@dragospahontu
@dragospahontu 2 жыл бұрын
It literally does everything you'd ever want
@hooby7045
@hooby7045 2 жыл бұрын
Except for mine Bitcoin
@henryohm3841
@henryohm3841 2 жыл бұрын
@@hooby7045 Why would you even consider using the word Mining on a Surface pro 8 review?
@hooby7045
@hooby7045 2 жыл бұрын
@@henryohm3841 bro bro I am joking, it is a joke, it is a very sophisticated and well evaluated joke, a nice joke, a British origin joke
@baconcassoulet849
@baconcassoulet849 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the Core i-5 is it good enought for Photoshop ?
@MatthewMoniz
@MatthewMoniz 2 жыл бұрын
Yup!
@elguapo503
@elguapo503 2 жыл бұрын
What wallpaper is that you have in the thumbnail for the video?
@Gisellenid
@Gisellenid Жыл бұрын
Well, Surface Pro 9 will arrive anytime soon, but the price of the SP8 is dropping fast. Can I fully play The Sims 4 in this machine? I currently play in my Surface Pro 4 (with i5, 8gb memory, 256 gb storage) but with medium to low graphics, with almost all the expansion packs installed (currently missing only 2). I bought it 6 years ago and it does the job, but I would like to upgrade and run the game with better graphics. I know I should better be looking for a gaming laptop, but I'm also a teacher with no classroom and I need to walk a lot from room to room, and I would also like to use this for my work.
@simonmestdagh9412
@simonmestdagh9412 2 жыл бұрын
Would it be better to get the 16gb SP7+ with an i7 or get the 16gb SP8 with an i5 instead?
@FriendlyPCGamers
@FriendlyPCGamers 2 жыл бұрын
I will buy a paper notebook and write notes in my class at 1000 times less cost, ty Matthew.
@coronica_rn8277
@coronica_rn8277 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@kahnali6917
@kahnali6917 2 жыл бұрын
Is it good for graphics designers?
@switchstreamgaming
@switchstreamgaming 2 жыл бұрын
I like the clean shave Moniz..... suave man...suave. Oh, great review of the surface pro 8. Cheers.
@obvinpro
@obvinpro 2 жыл бұрын
WHAT the speak is amazing judging from the what showed. They managed to packed such speak on that slim top screen while MacBook is in the base. Nice job Microsoft
@edyloi
@edyloi 2 жыл бұрын
well not really because those speakers from the premium tablets ie S7+ or ipad Pro are much better than Surface Pro's. Probably due o they just channel their resource more on productivity aspects but not the entertainment side
@alexanderwendelboe6550
@alexanderwendelboe6550 2 жыл бұрын
Matthew, was the 12 hours with 120 hz or 60? Great video man 💪
@shanesonn
@shanesonn 2 жыл бұрын
I had the Surface Pro 8 i5 16 gb RAM. Max battery I had with 120 hz and 100% brightness was 5 hours.
@alexanderwendelboe6550
@alexanderwendelboe6550 2 жыл бұрын
@@shanesonn thats kind of different. But max brightness does a lot. Why did you part with it?
@shanesonn
@shanesonn 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderwendelboe6550 Max brightness isn't too bright considering the display is very reflective. I returned it because of the battery. I'm a student and I need something that can last longer than 5 hours
@alexanderwendelboe6550
@alexanderwendelboe6550 2 жыл бұрын
@@shanesonn okay. Got mine today. Been playing around with it most of the day. Not hitting 12 hours yet, but at least its closer to 12 then 5 hours.
@shanesonn
@shanesonn 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderwendelboe6550 What's your brightness at and hz? I might have gotten a bad unit
@Bro_DT
@Bro_DT Жыл бұрын
I use this work at home. In case anyone is wondering, Battery isn't the best but it's good enough. I also my own keyboard tho, because yes, the attachment is too small for me
@zensavage5119
@zensavage5119 2 жыл бұрын
Will the LTE model be available for consumers when it launches for business, does anyone know? I'm having a hard time looking it up but I want the freedom of LTE as a mobile worker
@RK-um9tu
@RK-um9tu 2 жыл бұрын
Goto Windows Central and watch their post MS event podcast. It should be discussed there...
@jonathancastro5742
@jonathancastro5742 2 жыл бұрын
Once you go Surface, you can go go back to other devices. The quality and screen is so superb… those German engineer that work on surface lineup do such an amazing job!!!
@Fee.1
@Fee.1 2 жыл бұрын
😑
@bland9876
@bland9876 2 жыл бұрын
Used a Windows tablet for a little while and I have to say the surface is really good in comparison. Though trying to use USB c to charge is a pain vs the micro USB of the windows tablet.
@arete_
@arete_ 2 жыл бұрын
Can't?
@user-yk2ud2wz7o
@user-yk2ud2wz7o 2 жыл бұрын
8gb or 16gb? Any advices?
@sinabaghaei3504
@sinabaghaei3504 2 жыл бұрын
I just bought it. one problem, the charger gets too hot. Do you know why would it be the case? also the back of the device itself gets warm when it is charging.
@hapham-fb6zy
@hapham-fb6zy 2 жыл бұрын
the battery 12hrs is need to be verified. on the pro 7, MS said 10hrs, other reviewer said 6-8 hrs but I struggle to get 4.5 hrs by normal daily using.
@SirChickenMcNuggetTheThird
@SirChickenMcNuggetTheThird 2 жыл бұрын
wait, theres no more sd card slot????
@rockysbraa
@rockysbraa 2 жыл бұрын
hi!! what do you think about this surface for editing photo raw or video editing (30mb and 4k) i5 not evo versione.thanks!!!
@maka1685
@maka1685 2 жыл бұрын
So can these record someone talking to you even when they are closed? Like with the lid down?
@keishidojo64
@keishidojo64 Жыл бұрын
So the i7 and i5 are same price for the 256/16gb version. Which one?
@McRyach
@McRyach 2 жыл бұрын
I own Surface Pro and eventually will get Surface Pro 8 (when my current one will become obsolete). But there is no way I'll get rid of *Kecychron K7* low profile 65% mechanical keyboard. So *NO TYPE COVER FOR ME! Microsoft can keep it.*
@fishnsteve
@fishnsteve 2 жыл бұрын
0:04 I have to correct you right there. It is not Microsoft's best laptop, it is Microsoft best IPad
@darthvader5558
@darthvader5558 2 жыл бұрын
👍 I was also thinking the same thing
@crazybee4203
@crazybee4203 2 жыл бұрын
Can I use this for gaming? Such as high 3D
@Andrew-mz3rw
@Andrew-mz3rw Жыл бұрын
how does this work for data science and connecting to 2 monitors
@Markjonathan
@Markjonathan 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone use it to play videos onto your TV? I'm looking for a light laptop, but watching movies through a hdmi is a must for me. Is there lag?
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