MIDI Masterclass - How to Plan MIDI Routing in Your Studio Explained !

[@joelluth6384]

This guy is great. MIDI may be an ancient protocol but straightforward, to-the-point explanations like this are surprisingly hard to come by. Thank you!

[@splootyvision]

Thank you very much, very kind words indeed and much appreciated :-)

[@dfxmonkeyhead]

This video addresses one of my biggest headaches and explains various ways to deal with it. I think the mio XL looks like a great solution and I will be looking into grabbing one of those. Thank you for this series of videos. Very helpful!

[@maddmugsy]

Quick note on the MioXL: for synths that have software editors, etc., you can plug them into the MioXL via DIN and your PC via USB at the same time 😊

[@splootyvision]

@@maddmugsy Excellent stuff, thanks for that 🙂

[@risingphoenix1484]

The one thing I have learned in 26 years of music production is money spent to increase the following: 1. The quality of your room (room treatment) and monitoring, 2. Your efficiency (efficiency= increasing computer power/ reduction in time requirements/decreases power conception/eliminates redundancy/increase storage&backup capabilities/allows for expansion and growth), and 3. less cabling is money well spent. This is a great master class for MIDI planning.

[@frontline2010]

congratulations, sir you have now officially earned the title of “ The MIDI Professor”

[@genmce]

or Dr. Midi

[@alainszyller615]

I agree !

[@rickd8302]

OMG, Thank you again! Your videos are exactly what I needed. For an analog guitarist who is new to the midi/synth world your videos are a TREMENDOUS help! At the time I seen this video you have 5.88k subscribers, I am going to spread the word to my group and hopefully that your subscriber base will increase, well deserved! Thanks again :)

[@splootyvision]

Thanks, that means a lot PS. Feel free to hit me up with any questions in the future 🙂

[@briarboy8959]

I can’t thank you enough for this great MIDI series, extremely helpful.👏🏻

[@andreasl597]

Great video, and I’m especially happy that you use the same setup that I have. One issue I had once with midi and usb connected simultaneously was a midi message loop , so notes were fired even when nothing was triggered by sequencers or controllers. So midi channel setup is crucial not only on the devices but also on your DAW

[@splootyvision]

Great minds think alike 🙂

[@russellyoung6498]

Grateful to you Graham, very informative. I'm getting to like this thing called Midi!

[@Andronacus]

Huge thanks from me for these videos. Was trying to get my head around midi for over a year and nothing else helped. Your explanation and diagrams have got it into my thick head! All the best.

[@maxdiamond55]

great video, thanks

[@PhilipSheard-l5q]

Thank you so much for these tutorials. x

[@doug1219]

Thanks! This was very helpful!

[@colinhorne2437]

Thank you for this and your other videos - incredibly clear and helpful and very relevant to my set up! I'm also trying to get a hybrid set up. At the moment I only really use a daw to record audio so would be very interested to see your video on recording midi into a daw. I originally used a cheap midi thru/merge box from gear4music to link everything up but it developed problems (it could have been midi feedback issues?) and it could only work directly with 4 devices so also relied on some daisy chaining. I now have 2 midi controllers connected out only to a kenton thru 12 box. In order to merge the 2 midi controller outputs, I bought a midi y splitter cable to go into the single midi in port on the kenton box. However, this might have been a mistake as I occasionally get stuck notes, and I think it might be that the midi data is getting a bit scrambled by the splitter cable as it's essentially working it was desgned to split/duplicate the signal rather than merge, so I need to get a proper merge box. I use an arturia keystep as master clock, but as the clock signal is only sent when either the keystep sequencer or arpeggiator are running it starts everything together which can of course be very useful but can also be annoying if you didn't want it to! I have set things up so my volcas can start on a completely empty sequence if necessary but you still need to physically stop the volca sequencer if you want to play it live. I really should go into the keystep settings to see if there is anything I can do about this but if you or anyone else know how to just output a clock signal without sequencer transport controls that would be great! Cheers!

[@splootyvision]

Hi and thanks, Yep you really need a merger like I have in my set up - the midi controllers got to a merge box and then 'thru' the drum machine and onto a thru box that branches out to the synths. Y Splitters are okay for simple duplication of a signal but not for merging (I use one so that I can send the signal from my FCB1010 to both a thru box and the MIDI in on my audio interface). If you get a merger, get one one with 'midi filtering' capability which will also help solve your clock/start/stop issue. I have a DOREMiDi Merge 5 Pro with 'filtering' (about £50) which merges 5 ins to 2 outs and has a software editor that allows you to program the box and filter things out, so for example you can filter out the start/stop messages from the Keystep so they never reach the other synths (the clock signal though would continue through 'unharmed' 🙂). You just plug the merge box into a USB and open the software editor to program the box, once any changes are saved, they are saved the box itself and you don't need the USB attached anymore (but as it's usb powered you might just leave it plugged into the PC or a powered USB hub anyhow). Another would say fits the bill is the CME U6MIDIPro - which is a 3 in 3 out Thru/Merge/Filter and is only about £40, like the DORE it has a software editor where you can filter midi messages. Hope that all helps. Cheers, Graeme :-)

[@colinhorne2437]

Thanks Graeme - that is really helpful advice 👍

[@keysersoze4851]

thank you so much for the helpful video. atm im facing a very similar task, extended by a few synths and samplers and midi over bluetooth, to spice things up.

[@genmce]

I like using the pics of the gear too, I've just done a flow chart using excalidraw. I need to update with the pics. I also just got a doremidi msc-10 just out ($160) - looking forward to revising my setup using your guidance. I think it really helps me, to draw it all out, like you have.

[@Hakucho64]

Wow, this is a strong competitor to the Blokas MidiHub and a LOT cheaper than a MioXL.

[@aeon136]

I use the MiO-XL 2 control 5 hardware Synths, Akai FORCE, Alexis D4 Drum-Brain -as well as my Hermod+ in my EuroRack rig. I ALSO connect all THAT 2 my computer via the MiO-XL. ALSO, everything that has an Ethernet connection gets routed 2 a GigaBit Ethernet switch -which is then routed 2 the MiO-XL!😈... Using the software tool 4 the MiO-XL (Auricle) allows me the choice of an almost infinite number of various configurations -Which can be named & saved as patch configurations. Finally, depending on what I wanna do, all I have 2 do is dial-in the desired patch configuration -& I'm 'Wheels-Up'!🚀 I would HIGHLY recommend goin' The MiO-XL Route!🦋✨👽

[@Essjay88]

Recently moved from thru boxes and a very nice "intelligent" retrokits merge/thru to the MioXL. What tipped me over was wanting more divices with a dedicated in/out for older devices i want to dump sounds to/from via sysex. So far very happy and having less issues with midi loops. To note... the issue with the usb ports is that they are MIDI only hence why you can't update firmware or use editors as you would through a usb hub (for devices that require that). Its a nice piece of kit though and easy to filter data to different synths. Still a lot to learn though and think I'll still need my thru boxes! 😂🙂

[@splootyvision]

Yep, I keep getting tempted by the mioXL and indeed if I do expand to more synths in the future I'm pretty sure I'll end up getting one :-)

[@powermix24]

Thanks a lot for this, I'm thinking about getting the MRCC control center, to solve the enigma of having multiple Sequencers and keyboards to sync everything. Do you recommend having a large setup?

[@splootyvision]

@@powermix24 The MRCC or the MioXL I show in the video seem to be the ones most people talk about/recommend. So I would say either would suit your needs. Depends really on how much and what you’re trying to connect and making sure you’ve got enough connections to cover you. Currently I use a combo of smaller merge and thru boxes, but that’s just how my set up grew. If I was starting from ‘scratch’ it’d probably be either the MRCC or the MioXL. Cheers.

[@powermix24]

@splootyvision yeah I have a large collection of Synths from desktop to keyboards, tr8s, mc707, electron boxes and so forth. So I'm going to start with the MCC Central. If I want I can expand later if I need to. Thanks a lot for this video and thank you for taking your time to give us all this great information on midi. Thank you again

[@seyittahirozuolmez1026]

Another good video explained via chartboards, but we wanna see step by step video all menü tweaks right from the start "squencer" - lots of parameters needs to be explaned in menus i think. is it possible :D .. thanx by the way

[@splootyvision]

@@seyittahirozuolmez1026 Hi and thanks. Yep it’s pretty difficult to try and cover everything in one video. If you check out the MIDI playlist on my channel there’s lots of other videos that cover some of the other details e.g. how to set the midi channels, how to do the MIDI clock settings, how to configure thru ports in settings etc. Am also planning a video to show in practice how everything works with physical demonstrations of what triggers what and how it all works 🙂

[@seyittahirozuolmez1026]

​@splootyvision your setup is just like mine. Root start with keystep through going into motu express xt.. And lots of synth. Mine keystep is a new thing in my . İ cant setup it proper. All my headaches comea from it. :) thanx for answers

[@splootyvision]

Is it the Keystep 37 or the Pro? - I've done some detailed videos on the Keystep 37 (yet to do one on the Pro).

[@seyittahirozuolmez1026]

@splootyvision keystep pro chroma. we all wait the new videos. :)

[@alainszyller615]

Thank you for this very useful video. Questions: 1/ if you use a "regular" full keyboard instead of the Keysteps why not using a Beatstep instead ? 2/ can a simple sequencer like Korg SQ1 substitute for Keysteps ?

[@splootyvision]

Hi and thanks. I tend to use the Keystep Pro and Keystep 37 while sitting at the desk to generate ideas and do use their keyboards. The KS Pro sequences 4 tracks and the KS37 can sequence one, with a second played live over the top - so effectively I can get something going utilising all 6 hardware synths. If I want to generate a more complex sequence that spans more than the 37 keys, then I tend to use the synth itself so I don’t have to keep octave shifting the Keystep up and down (also I tend to record sequences in ‘real-time’ rather than ‘step-recording’. In terms of something like an SQ1, it’s pretty limited as can only run either 2 x 8 step sequences or 1 x 16 step sequencer, whereas the Keystep are both 64 step sequences - the KS Pro can have 16 x 64 step sequences per track and the KS37 can store 8 x 64 step sequences, so much more powerful than the SQ1. Predominantly I use them for jamming live for fun and as I say fleshing out ideas - when it comes to proper recording everything is sequenced in the DAW (sometimes by recording the sequences in from the Keysteps). Hope that made some sort of sense 🙂

[@alainszyller615]

@@splootyvision thank you for your prompt answer, what about the Beatstep pro ?

[@splootyvision]

Hi - the Beatstep only has 3 tracks (2 tracks plus a drum track), whereas the Pro has 4 tracks and one of them can either be a sequence or a drum track) - all in its more powerful than the beatstep as far as I'm aware and also I prefer keys to pads for programming or playing sequences (I'm a pianist 🙂 and never got my head round playing notes on pads other than for drums). You do however get more knobs on the Beatstep meaning greater control over parameters like cc's if you want. I suppose its the usual different horses for different courses and comes down to personal preference. Cheers.

[@alainszyller615]

Thanks again so much for this clarification, I m also a pianist and don't know at all how to use pads. But I have more than enough keyboards ( Kurzweil SP4, Bass Station 2 , DeepMind 12 and Seaboard Roli 49 first gen... and a Yamaha upright silent series piano), that's why I asked this question. Actually I use the Kurzweil as MIDI keyboard master to which I added Korg SQ1 and an old Boss Pedal GT3. I also have a Behringer 2600 and a small Moog Werkstatt, plus a Alesis SR18 as a drum machine. I use a MIDI interface ESI M8U eX 16-Port, but I have been disappointed by it since the USB inputs are only a HUB they don't interact with the other MIDI inputs, unlike the 3 examples you showed (Motu, Mio and Conductive Labs) I regret not having bought the Conductive Lab, but the ESI was much cheaper, and I didn't anticipate this false USB connection, but it helps by avoiding daisy chaining. Something to share for people not making the same mistake. Main issues for me are synchronizing everything and incorporating the Seaboard (I assume I might use a USB-B splitter and a small Kenton MIDI box) We are moving soon and I will reconnect everything, at that point, may I ask for some advices for improving my setting? Cheers.

[@splootyvision]

Yep - I just use pads for finger drumming. For everything else - if it's not laid out like piano keys I just get lost 😂 See you're rocking the Deepmind 12 and original Seaboard 49, which I also have 🙂 and....I also have a Yamaha Clavinova CVP-405 downstairs :-)

[@CookinBeatloaf]

These are all very helpful but somehow I always run into issues implementing. Have you used the CME routers or low latency WIDI? How do you handle all the cables - bundled per instrument or per type (audio, midi, power)? I'm about to give up on having everything connected but wireless midi (WIDI) a couple long usb cables (one for router one for interface) might make it doable

[@splootyvision]

@@CookinBeatloaf Hi, not used the CME stuff but comments I’ve seen they seem to be good kit. I got a DOREMiDI merge box recently which is at the lower end budget wise like CME and it’s really good quality and so far worked flawlessly. Tbh cabling is not something I’ve really spent too much time focusing on….and there’s tons of it !!, but never caused me any problems. I’ve got 4 extension cables running off 2 double plug sockets powering everything, around 14 audio cables running into a mixer, 6 audio cables running out to various speakers, around 20 individual USB cables running to 2 USB hubs and into the PC and then about 20+ MIDI cables running from synths to thru and merge boxes etc. Tbh under the desks and keyboard stands it’s quite a mess and I am planning to sort it all out and tidy it all up - but as I say it’s never caused me any issues, pretty much out of sight, out of mind 🙂

[@icepick_method3439]

Can you help me figure out how to hook my pile of gear up? i've got a k2500sx for controller, k2500rs w/ kdfx for main synth/sampler, 2x bcr2000's, KP3, and a DDrum DDT. My only usb>midi right now is a Mio1. Can i daisychain all this together for a hybrid setup or do i need some sort of hub? And is there any point in trying to use the k2500sx as a synth and controller, or just a controller?

[@splootyvision]

If you've got a load of older gear without USB and you want to record MIDI data in a DAW, then Yes you would need a 'midi interface'. Daisy chaining won't work as you need to have both the ins and outs connected on each synth to send MIDI data to the computer and to receive it back and also the MIDI interface then allows the computer to recognise each device as a separate midi input. The three I show in the video (MOTU, MRCC and MioXL) would do the trick, but they do also do smaller versions with 4 or 5 midi in/out and there are other brands out there as well. Basically you plug the midi in and the midi out from each synth into the interface and then plug that into the computer via a single USB. Then either using a software editor that comes with the interface or by pressing buttons on the unit itself you program how you want everything routed. PS. Would seem a waste to just use the k2500 as a controller as it is a synthesizer in its own right ?, so I would use it as both. Effectively I would just determine how many midi connections you need (you'll need an IN and an OUT for each synth for two way communication) and then look for an interface that gives you enough connections. These interfaces also operate standalone, so you can have everything routed for 'playing live' without a pc involved, but when want to record the midi data into a DAW, have that option as well :-)

[@boolage]

Would be interesting to see what is involved using your setup to switch from something like using the key step pro controlling the hardware synths to using the PC instead of the keystroke pro. How many settings on the various devices you need to change that the routing you have supports.

[@splootyvision]

@@boolage Hi, I think you’ve actually predicted the next video I’m doing (all planned out, filming it next week). I’ll be looking at MIDI Routing in my DAW, how I have templates set up with all the tracks and routing set for all my hardware and software synths. It all pretty much works the same whether the PC is on or off/no settings need changing on anything (other than my MODX that I have to switch from MIDI to USB and turn Local control on or off). Basically I’ve got all my hardware synths set to MIDI channels 1-6, Guitar Rig VST on 7, Vocal effects unit on 8, a drum VST on channel 9, the TR8S on channel 10 and then various VSTs on channels 11-16 that I’ve grouped by ‘maker’ e.g Arturia on Channel 11, Spectrasonics on Channel 12, Korg on channel 13 etc. I can swap the instruments in and out but the channels remain the same. Basically I’m using all 16 channels with everything able to be played from and switched between using the Keystep Pro, Keystep 37 or Keylab 61 - which are easy to change channels on the fly so they can trigger different things 🙂

[@boolage]

@@splootyvision Thanks for the reply - looking forward to that video! Fellow Keystep Pro and Seaboard user here and trying to get into more live jamming with sequencing etc while being able to record to the PC as well. Your videos have been very helpful!

[@briankeithwaters]

I have two Melo Audio Midi Commander foot controllers that I want to merge into the 'Midi In' on my Focusrite 8i8. Will a 'Quadra Thru' work or should I get a 'Quadra Merge'?

[@splootyvision]

@@briankeithwaters You’ll need a ‘Merge’ box for that. Tbh I’d have a look at the CME U6Midi Pro it’s a 3in 3out and can do merge, thru and filter. Comes with free software that you use to program what you want it to do (very simple software), once programmed it doesn’t have to be tethered to a computer. It also requires a power supply (usb to mains adapter or to pc), whereas the Quadra Merge is self powered via the midi cables - but it’s about a third of the price of the Quadra merge (£40 for the CME vs about £120 for the Quadra Merge). Cheers

[@cloud9savagehenry]

Ok..... that merge through map is certainly overwhelming. However, i do have a handful of midi gadgets and rackmount effects devices / drum pad. Access to 2 DAW's. I most certainly would like to be a bit more dangerous in this department. I would definitely like to give some of this a go. I'm self taught in all i have done. And it has been a very long road. I can figure this out.

[@kirkanos771]

Audio rooting tuts are fine, midi rooting tuts are too. Now we need power plugs routing tuts.

[@joyboricua3721]

MIDI is super handy. It allows to make so much stuff. WIDI takes it to extreme fun in my case, since I have Korg downstairs with a PA & a Laney, controlled by a Roland upstairs with a Tascam going to both a Sony/Technics Component Home Theater & an EV evolve. The noise it makes rattles the building. 😈

[@ManCalledMif]

Great vi de o. Kenton midi thru 25 is excellent. Can recommend. Can you explain the benefit of midi merge please? Cheers

[@splootyvision]

@@ManCalledMif Hi and thanks. MIDI merge is great when you have multiple devices that you want to feed to a single input. In my example I’ve got 4 midi controllers going in to the merge and then one output combining all 4 signals goes on to the drum machine which goes to the thru box and out to all the hardware. This means I can control any piece of hardware with anyone one of the 4 midi controllers. Without the Merger this wouldn’t be possible. Another case example might be if I had 4 old vintage synths with MIDI, but no USB. I could connect them to the Merge Box and then the single output of that to the single MIDI input on my audio interface. This would allow me to record the midi data from those vintage synths into my computer and…if I then connected the MIDI out of the audio interface to a thru box I could send the midi signals from the computer back out to the vintage synths. Hope that helps and made sense. Cheers 🙂

[@ManCalledMif]

@@splootyvision fantastic thank you. Now I know what I can do with my Kenton merge 8.

[@ManCalledMif]

@@splootyvision if I understood correctly I could record the MIDI data into the computer while performing live. MIDI controllers to MERGE to audio interface to DAW to MIDI THRU to hardware synths/drum machines (with audio recorded into the DAW or a mixer/sd card)

[@splootyvision]

Hi, sort of depends on what trying to do. The synths need to be connected to the computer in order to record the MIDI, not just the MIDI controllers. Not sure on your set up, but basically if you connected the synths to the merge box and then that into the midi on the audio interface, when you play them you can record the MIDI notes played into your DAW and if you run the midi out of the audio interface back to a thru box and back out to the synths, when you play back the recorded midi in your DAW it will trigger the synths (you'll need to set up and configure midi tracks in your daw accordingly with the inputs and outputs as the audio interface and the midi channels set to whatever each synth is set to). If they are 'desktop synths' played via midi controllers then a little different/more complicated. You should be able to run the MIDI controllers to the Merge box, but would also need to run the Synths to the merge box (I think), run the merge to the audio/midi interface and onto the PC via USB. Then MIDI out from audio/midi interface to a thru box and back out to the synths. This should enable you to set up routing in your DAW so that the MIDI controllers can trigger the synths and record the MIDI data, but without a DAW it wouldn't work as there would be no direct link between the controllers and the synths. Not sure if that made sense, but happy to give some pointers if let me know what gear you've got, what's you want controlling what and how you envisage it all working together. Cheers, Graeme :-)

[@ManCalledMif]

@@splootyvision thank Graeme for your kind explanation. Linked video shows an example hardware setup. Recently got a Mac mini and ableton so will be looking to incorporate that onto my setup kzbin.info/www/bejne/gIHMZol6rM-UgKMsi=q1FW0OQGiqMMAdlo

[@3clectic0]

Very clear but my brain exploded a few times!

[@user-xd1qr9lg6v]

Can you give a masterclass on sysex. I want to be able to configure the synth patches from my daw by song.

[@splootyvision]

@@user-xd1qr9lg6v Hi - something I’d have to look into, tbh I don’t use SysEx - but something been meaning to investigate more. What DAW are you using - I know in Cubase there are the bank and program selector boxes where you can enter the values for a preset. For example my Deepmind 12 has 8 banks of 128 presets, so if I set up a midi track assigned to the Deepmind and put say 3 and 24, when I load up the Cubase project it will automatically set the Deepmind to the 24th preset in the third bank. Would assume other DAWS have similar capability.

[@9crutnacker985]

so where's your 'magic of midi channels' link?

[@splootyvision]

@@9crutnacker985 kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJvFYX96aN9qrM0si=r-F2Rath9FJl2EgT It as actually third one down in the links in the description ‘How to change MIDI Channels….’ (The thumbnail is ‘The Magic of…..’, apologies if caused any confusion) Cheers

[@TedBrownMedia]

Get the MRCC Mioxl has crap support and the limitations make it crap. MRCC no bullshit. Now here comes the questions. Watched this video 6 times. I am type 5 dawless as right now. I have a way to get to the daw via A/D D\A via arturia 16 and 8 pre & BLA revolution 8. Thats another a question for future video. So here is the question why is the TR8S not sending clock into the Keystep pro and then into the quadra thru out? so here is the deal i would love to do this config im gonna mention but i understand why you do it your way. MIDRINOME MASTER CLOCK 5 pin midi send> TR8S master stop start midi in from midrinome, midi send from TR8S to quadra thru or a Yamaha MJC8 ( own it but never used yet) was told it a 1 in 8 thru. I got to do more research. Then one midi out to 3 quadea thru going 2 x keystep pros + 1 Beatstep pro giving me 12 channels only issue is max is 4 voice on the Keystep and beatstep pro. So how would you sequence 16 channels at once in sync ❤

[@splootyvision]

Hi there, if check out my MIDI Clock video here kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZ63pnagm6lpitUsi=vHwgUpfYsMOVMXyJ hopefully might explain it a little more. Basically the Keysteps only send out MIDI Clock when they're sequencers/arpeggiators are armed (set to play). And I wanted to be able to use the TR8S as master clock for my other hardware with inbuilt sequencers like my PolyBrute, Matrixbrute and MODX8+ when I wasn't using the Keysteps. With my current set up, the TR8S acts as master clock, but when I arm the Keystep it overrides the drum machine and becomes the master clock (and indeed I can then override the Keystep with the clock from my DAW which would then sync everything). For your set up it looks like it makes sense to have the TR8S at the start as the master, although not sure the purpose of the Midrinome - could just use the TR8S as the master ?. So I would say TR8S to thru box, thru box out to Keystep/beatsteps and then assume they are all then connected out to various synths/modules some other thru boxes ?. Ideal solution might be the TR8S, the Keysteps and all the synths into and out of something like an MRCC and then just route everything internally how you want it ? In terms of sequencing 16 tracks, well I suppose another KS Pro ? or you could start looking at things like MPC One, Elektron Digitakt, Novation Circuit tracks which are all 8 track sequencers I believe, so adding one of those would allow up to 20 tracks sequenced at once :-) Hope that helps. Cheers, Graeme

[@TedBrownMedia]

@splootyvision dayum 20. Ill stick to 16 . Yes i already ordered my a second KSP and realizes i have the bsp and havent really figured that one out. I have everything set to clock midi on all units ksp is sending midi out. I cant get my Tr8s to co operate lately . I had to go old school to my yamaha rx5 and sy1 behringer. And use ksp to trigger drums. Off rx5 sy1. What sequencers dont have key limitations for sequencing chords ksp limits to 4 notes per step. Ive seen another device by Kilpatrick carbon midi does 6? Is work around to this 2 diff seq sent to same synth say 2 ksp on same midi channel one playing right hand and one left? The Midronome is an midi master clock zero midi clock Jitter and 110% stable clock turns all into midi slaves. It also wont allow a unit to drift what so ever. All my poly synths 1 dual jpo8 1 dual ju06a i have swing 32 for these so ill have 2 dedicated just to these then Hydraynth deluxe, emu Proteus 1& 2, Micromonsta 2 , and my Dual Pro800. So if i follow what the other vids say all of these have sequencers build in except hydrasynth. I need the swing 32 to operate a round robin box to send keys to each roland dual pack i have. The rest of my setup is dual tb303, a matrix brute. TORO, Minitaur and model d behringer. So lastly what are the correct settings on tr8s to recieve or send auto? I cant get it to play nice

[@splootyvision]

Blimey, trying to get my head round all that - nice selection of gear :-) For the TR8S, press utility and turn the value knob to get to SYNC/TEMPO menu Set the 'TempoSync' to AUTO, then set the 'RxStartStop' to ON. Then go to the MIDI menu and turn 'Soft Thru' to ON and also turn 'Omni Mode' to OFF (That's how I have all mine set up anyhow). Hope that helps. Cheers.

[@CorciPorci]

My question is: do you need all that gear? 😅

[@splootyvision]

@@CorciPorci In truth, I could pretty much do everything with the midi keyboards and some VSTs - but like the freedom of using the hardware without a computer when I want to 🙂

[@novacultmusic]

Yes.

[@ronj9448]

I'd like to add that I'll explore physical hardware a lot more than I do a VST. So I wind up finding more ideas as the hardware "speaks back to me". YMMV

[@CorciPorci]

I am all for hardware, no problem. I meant more the number of gear. But everybody has a different taste. Enjoy!