What’s The POINT Of Bluray Anymore?

Let's talk about the importance of the regular bluray in 2025.
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[@nicodimus2222]

70% of my collection is still blu-ray, because tons of good movies aren't on 4K yet, and may never be. If you only buy 4k, you're missing out...big time.

[@MAXIMUSTBE]

Right

[@menkros1]

Splash bluray?

[@tomboling2309]

You are 100 % percent right bc I have over 1700 blurays in my collection that will most likely not get a 4k release. And I am fine with having a bluray release of a movie

[@cookiesontoast9981]

Then there's me, who is also happy getting a load of films on DVD that will also never release even on blu ray.

[@anthonydiggle2926]

I think it was Jeff Rauseo who accurately observed that over the years, the history of physical media releases in different formats has the representation of a pyramid. At the bottom of the pyramid is VHS, then DVD, Blu Ray and 4K. Gradually the number of releases gets smaller as each new format is introduced. My point is that Blu Rays IMO are still essential in today’s physical media environment, as there will be plenty of releases that will never be upgraded to 4K.

[@MrCREWCRUSHIN95]

The reason is that as you get to the older formats they had MORE TIME. Of course VHS is going to have more than DVD, it came out before DVD. And DVD is going to have more than Blu-ray because it came out before Blu-ray. TIME.

[@mataiguana5]

That is a fact my friend.

[@Xzeon55]

theres a buncha movies still stuck on VHS and DVD!

[@mataiguana5]

@Xzeon55 much agree!

[@jesseswarbrick7895]

Blu rays are fine...Most of my collection is blu ray and DVD with some 4ks and i am quite fine with that....When i started collecting movies in 2007, there was never this FOMO for movies like there is now...Buy what you like and enjoy what you like, dont ever feel like you are missing out if you dont have the latest greatest movie in your collection, its a never ending battle that you will never win

[@nicholasthill7151]

Yeah, the fact is, you can buy a $50 Bluray players and a $300 4K TV from Wal-Mart and be totally satisfied with the experience. I already hear the 4K cult telling others how, if they don't drop thousands, they aren't getting the "real" experience. That doesn't really promote new interest in hard media.

[@mycool8357]

It’s annoying that some people seem to look down on regular 1080p blu ray as if it’s not a quality product anymore since 4K UHD. Most of my collection is Standard blu ray with some 4K as well but like 90 percent Standard! The quality is not just fine or ok but in most cases looks amazing with consistency across the format. I don’t feel like I’m watching some inferior movie when swapping between 4K and Standard blu ray, I’m still often blown away by the 1080p disks and don’t need every movie to make it to 4K. I have no need to replace great transfers at a premium price and double dip on movies I already own.i understand that 4K is superior and in some cases looks amazing but the format is inconsistent with transfers, not all 4K blu rays look as good as they should or i find sometimes too Dark and I prefer the Standard editions and also in some cases I really see no real difference at all perhaps just marginally better in 4K. Quality to price ratio is amazing on 1080p disks I pick up movies second hand for as little as £2, I never thought that would be possible in 2007 when blu rays were the price 4K movies are now and that was 18 years ago! Long live Blu ray!!!

[@MrCREWCRUSHIN95]

2K is still good and viable. Not everything has the resolution to warrant 4K

[@hdna12]

Excalty Blu-ray is the king of HD besides most of the Special Features on are on Blu-ray if you Buy a 4K Ultra HD combo with Blu-Ray the Special Features will be on the Blu-Ray disc.

[@123clyd3]

I think blu ray offers incredible value and you get 90% of the experience of a 4K. You’re right about the 4K transfers, it can be hit or miss and you have to research the disk to make sure it’s graded properly. Besides the increase in resolution, I enjoy the 4k format because it is able to display High Dynamic Range through Dolby Vision and HDR10. Not to mention the higher bit rate the disk is able to run at as well. For me personally, I’m willing to spend the extra money on the 4k format even though the quality is marginally “better”. I love how physical media has a format for anyone and everyone depending on their budget and preferences! Everyone wins.

[@iansteventon4221]

Same here mate , I went to cex yesterday, traded in a rubbish 4k steelbook for £23 and came out with 2 bags of 1080P blu rays. Ranging from 50p to £6 each. Blu ray still looks and sounds amazing on my 85" sony with my 5.2.4 surround. Only 4ks I will buy now if it's a restoration specifically for uhd.

[@mycool8357]

@@123clyd3 agreed! I really enjoyed Alien Romulus recently on 4K. The HDR was pretty cool and I’m not putting down 4K and can understand people who want the best available disks that being said if I already owned the movie I doubt I would of upgraded. I was on the look out for Seven on 4K as it’s a personal favourite I wanted to upgrade from my old DVD set but in the process of waiting for price to drop a bit I saw the 1080p blu ray second hand in CEX for £3 so £22 cheaper than I was going to spend and the transfer is sublime! The DTS HD audio was fantastic on my surround sound also, I’m sure some will say 4K transfer is better but if a 16 year old disk is blowing me away like this and I’m getting a lot of enjoyment from the quality why would I spend a lot more for marginal gains at the expense of a great blu ray transfer, I don’t have space for the double dip so the blu ray would have to go, making a great disk/transfer obsolete. I’m glad I have not become a 4K snob, it’s a great time to collect 1080p I’m hoping in a few years time 4K will be as cheap as Blu ray is now. Doubt it will happen tho. Cheers

[@hednik]

My feeling is, if you've got a good enough player and TV and home theater Blu-ray is just fine. When I watch a Blu-ray on my OLED at home it looks fantastic

[@jeffro9252]

Blu ray is still a fantastic format.

[@goldau856]

Especially a 4k scan blu ray.

[@shinycheeto5779]

Same. I’m fine with watching Blu-ray’s but since I spent the money on a 4K OLED might as well use it to its full capability

[@elgatosamurai9517]

I love my physical movie collection. Even if the internet goes down, I can watch any of my favorite movies.

[@LeaveMyGun]

You better hope the grid doesnt go down

[@RandallStevenson]

@@LeaveMyGun if the grid goes down, so does streaming, we would all have much more immediate problems than not being able to watch movies.

[@LeaveMyGun]

Im not defending streaming, im saying if the internet goes down everywhere power is next and youre screwed anyways

[@RandallStevenson]

@@LeaveMyGun the internet doesn't have to go down "everywhere" to ruin your day, just in your neighborhood, neither I nor OP brought the apocalypse into this conversation, you did that.

[@xplayfan21]

@@LeaveMyGun a generator would still work right?

[@RAlanBryan2112]

I have 6500 Blu-rays. I am not replacing them with 4K discs. I also still have 6800 DVDs. I have not giving those up either.

[@MrCREWCRUSHIN95]

Nor should you. Only upgrade when you see fit for select titles.

[@jeffro9252]

That’s ridiculous

[@artpipe]

collecting since the 90's but just got into blurays last year, they look fantastic

[@thisvampireheart1]

With the right bluray/4k player and 4k tv most media looks perfectly fine when it's upscaled.

[@FORBIDCharlie1986]

4K is the only format i see plagued with freezing and skipping issues.

[@MrCREWCRUSHIN95]

Never had this issue once. Its your player.

[@444chroma]

I haven't had that problem yet. 400 4ks and 3 different players UB 420, 820, and X800M2. I did get a bad disc one time it wouldn't play in any player.

[@dystopiabeach]

@@MrCREWCRUSHIN95 I haven't myself in most cases, but countless people have with different releases on all kinds of players. given the current state of QC it is absolutely a more annoying format objectively, whether you personally have issues or not.

[@gallynuts]

@@MrCREWCRUSHIN95never had that problem because it was the discs. I gots an oppo yo

[@Espo2250]

@@444chroma I have the sony x800m2 and it does freeze from time to time but nothing that prevents me from watching the movie.

[@fordimension]

I wish they would release more TV show box sets on blu-ray. It's still 95% DVD.

[@Lona_Chess]

Totally agree! More great shows deserve to make the leap from DVD to bluray.

[@haukionkannel]

@@Lona_Chess 30% of the customers have dvd player… 5% has blu ray player… 4K player.. 0.01% or less… and the test 65% only watch streams and cable… most like my physical player numbers are too big… but largest audience for physical… are DVDs! The rest is so small minority..

[@Matt20844444]

Collecting movies is one of the few things where it can get better. Better picture, better sound, better packaging. However, no matter what you collect, you should do so because you enjoy it. If it causes you anxiety and questioning your life's choices, take a break or walk away

[@g3ckoizlethal]

Blu ray still matters, IMO: - Price (if it's not in a combo) - If the movie is unavailable on 4K - If special features aren't on the 4K - If the transfer looks bad in 4K

[@Xzeon55]

ive seen alotta movies where the better cut of the film is on the Blu Ray disc and not on the 4K disc in those combo packs, and its like, this kinda feels like a rip off

[@DavidLodico-q6h]

I sooo relate to delaying watching Blu-ray in hopes of a new 4k transfer-even did that recently with your example “The Grey”-and the sick thing is, I know I will never be able to completely avoid that mindset! Great video, Ken

[@drsteinman5510]

Blu ray is good enough for people who are wise enough not to spend idiotic amounts of cash on trivial, Pointless upgrades such as “darker blacks”

[@midlevelmedia]

They looking pretty good sometimes though.

[@Steelersinfinity]

I’ve got a 100” tv. DVD is unwatchable and blu ray is heavily pixelated. First world problems.

[@davidgolden1776]

​@@Steelersinfinityget a upgrade

[@jpenir]

Or "new slipcover" that drives collectors to a frenzy for some reason

[@williambienz8238]

I buy everything. 4k , bluray, and dvd. I am happily paying pennies a dvd for great movies.

[@markdumas4587]

I haven’t upgraded to 4K and probably never will

[@dannydaniel6017]

What’s wrong with Blu Rays? Nothing absolutely nothing. I mean not everyone can afford 4k. I have at least one 200 4k titles/combo packs and no Ultra player yet. At least l will be ready when l get one but l still treasure my blus and DVDS still. Always good to appreciate what l can find out in the wild thrift hunting and what not. Better to have these things than not having them at all.

[@frommatorav1]

I just buy less physical media, but when I do buy it, it's on 4k at a good price or I wait for a sale. I will still buy Bluray if the price is low enough and it's not in 4k. Even though DVD can be found cheaper, I won't buy anything new in that format. It just doesn't look good, compared to bluray or 4k UHD. I had already bought more DVDs than I own in Bluray and 4k and I won't get rid of them, but I choose not to waste my money on DVD now.

[@dalethomas3277]

Blu rays are cheaper to manufacture, and cheaper to buy. In most cases blu ray is enough. KZbinrs tend to feel the pressure of 4K, 4K, 4K to the point where you can visibly see them feel diminished talking about “it’s JUST a blu ray release”. Not all viewers are heavy on 4K. I’s wager that most people would curate which films they buy on 4K given the option of both. For example, Demolition Man got hyped up and plugged on KZbin like it was the second coming, but in truth, it’s a budget bloated, mediocre 90’s action film. If judge Dread got the 4K treatment I’d expected the same over the top hyping simply because the pressure of the KZbinr algorithm demands it to keep the channel moving forward, but once again, Judge Dread is fun, but less than mediocre. Even with a 4K, is a film like Demolition Man worth hyping and paying top dollar for? No. Blu ray’s still outsell 4K by a mile, and DVD outsells blu ray by ten miles. The reason for this is that most collectors, I imagine, spend for higher quality on films they personally love, rather than any Demolition Man trash they put out on 4K. Just because it’s there on 4K, doesn’t mean it deserves the treatment, nor does it deserve reverence on a collectors shelf when a DVD or Blu Ray is perfectly fine. I suspect that even for you, the reason you’ve begun to focus on the POINT of blu rays is not because they don’t serve a purpose, but that the underlying thinking is now overshadowed by the fact that everyone else pushes 4K, 4K, 4K, so 4K now holds the only relevant place in your thought process. There is nothing wrong with blu rays, and a well curated collection will not only exclude trash wrapped up in a pretty 4K bow, but also be curated evenly between blu ray and WORTHY 4K releases.

[@midlevelmedia]

Us “KZbinrs” seem to get blamed for a lot these days. lol

[@MrCREWCRUSHIN95]

This is incorrect. It is in no way harder to produce a 4k disc physically than a 2k disc.the only difference is you encode with HEVC codec instead of AVC codec, and you will (50% of the time) use a triple layer disc instead of a dual layer disc.

[@Facethemovies]

I’ve been collecting home video since I was a kid. From VHS, DVD, Bluray, and now 4k. There’s certain movies I enjoy in specific formats. Just earlier today I was watching Beverly Hills Ninja on VHS and was loving every minute of it. As a collector but more importantly a custodian to home video I appreciate everything each format has done to preserve all these amazing films. I don’t think I’ll ever stop buying any of the formats no matter how good the resolution is due to the fact that some movies just look better in their original release and also the ritual of putting on the movie. Rewinding a tape and watching the trailers before the movie starts on VHS. Going through the secret menus and Easter eggs on a DVD. Enjoying all the bonus features on a bluray along with the interactive bonuses, and lastly the near perfect resolution of certain films on 4k where reality seizes to exists and for almost 2hrs you’re caught up in a new world. Great video as always Ken 🤙🏽

[@corporalhicks86]

Ken, i honestly think the best way you can appreciate the regular Blu-rays is by just watching them when you feel like watching the actual movie

[@SteveBrandon]

I'd be a lot more interested in upgrading to 4K if the price was competitive with regular Blu-Rays, and I know some 4Ks are available in basic packaging, but too many 4Ks are in overpriced special super deluxe ultrapremium collectors' sets with no basic "just the movie disk in a regular case" alternative for those of us on an extremely limited budget with limited shelf space.

[@compuspex]

I buy mostly all blu-rays. I will only get a 4K if it's in a good sale or if it's a movie I specifically want on 4K, but even then only if it's a great price.

[@calebsmall]

Agreed. I do love me a Scream Factory 4K, but even then I sometimes get their blu ray's instead depending on the title and if they have one available.

[@maxpower78-15]

I will say, i bought a bare bones Edward Scissorhands bluray for like 5 bucks at the tail end of best buy stocking physical media. Revisited the film and OMG. Was i happy to have spent 5 Bucks on it

[@calebsmall]

Probably 75-80% of my collection is Blu ray. It's the best format in my opinion. While I adore 4K and it is the better format as far as picture quality goes, sometimes there's not much of a difference in picture quality in reality and it's definitely not the better option audio wise as most blu's released now a days have the exact same audio tracks as their 4K counterpart (endless you're Sony apparently). I do get it if there's also an audio upgrade, but that's a case by case basis for me. Blu ray is still the standard for me and most of the time I do opt to buy it over a 4K version, depending on the title of course. We have to remember that 4K is still a small percentage of the market and the reality is that most people wanting high definition physical copies buy standard 2K blu ray.

[@Steve-l7e5y]

Hi Ken. Blu ray does tend to get bullied a lot by it's elder sibling 4k blu ray. Look at all the channels on here discussing picture quality, sound quality, extras... I get it but.. For example, I don't wanna buy National Lampoon in 4k because of the picture quality... It's about the entertainment factor or memories of the past. Different story with Ben Hur or Lawrence of Arabia lol At the end of the day it's about supporting choice in physical media and that's what your all about. Great show as always🙂 Roll on blu ray lol

[@nordy259]

You should really consider adding pawn shops to your thrifting trips. Some don't do physical media anymore but some of the ones that still do can be a gold mine. I've paid as little as $2 for a 4k and can regularly buy them for around $6. I live about 30 miles north of Seattle and a couple times a year I take a road trip to Portland and hit every pawn shop along the way that still does physical media. It turns a 4 hour road trip into a 12 hour trip but I'm not in a hurry when I go. Last time I went I think I picked up around 20 4ks and spent around $100

[@iansteventon4221]

The best thing about 4k , is that it has tanked the price of 1080P blu rays . I've being buying loads of blu rays lately ranging from 50p to £10. Most new films the difference is minor ( unless it's a restoration specifically for uhd) i still buy the odd 4k , but not at £35 !!

[@MrBlue3rd]

A lot of smaller low budget movies are just fine having a blu ray release.

[@paulf6973]

I spent a lot of time and money curating a DVD collection, culled that down to what I felt were the essentials... And then gradually upgraded the majority of that to HD. I can't justify going through that all over again on 4k. I've been more selective this time around, where a new transfer can be revelatory, but Blu will often do.

[@sydescroller774]

I’ve learned not to be a quality snob anymore and just appreciate the MOVIE (physically) which is what it was always about. That’s why I decided one day to keep them all together alphabetically and If I decide to upgrade one of them I’ll just swap it out.

[@martinwest2538]

Being born in the 1960's I'm used to very low picture quality (as to pre-cgi effects), black-and-white television, VHS and miniature screens. Thus i'm so happy with the big tv-screens and disc quality pictures (even dvd) of today. Nowadays I collect films mostly on Blu-ray, but the finest films on 4k and yet some - especially older Finnish films which simply aren't found on BD - as dvd's. And I treasure them all!

[@bbeepers]

Still buy those inexpensive blus on Hamilton Book. They look just fine upscaled to 4K on my 4K TV. And no freezing or skipping like some 4K discs.

[@MrCREWCRUSHIN95]

4K Discs don't have any problem unless you have a cheap player

[@TotalMeltdown2]

4k is overhyped. Blu ray is more than good enough for most people

[@WarKlutch]

I mainly prefer it for the HDR

[@kamisensei1616]

You don’t get dolby vision nor HDR with Blu-rays, so no, 4K are not overhyped.

[@dannyschoe4874]

Depends on the movie and price. But yes Blu Ray is good enough. Old movies upgraded to 4k disc are a noticeable amazing difference.

[@CanadianBacon6ix]

I saw batman begins in 4k on sale on amazon, I popped my bluray in to see the pq. Yeah I'm sure the 4k looks great but I was going through it and I was like what's wrong with this Picture quality? Does it look bad? Is it really not watchable? Truth is, nothing wrong it. Totally watchable and still looks great. I feel 4k hype is abit of fomo behind it. I really don't want to upgrade all my discs. If I don't watch a movie yearly it's not worth a rebuy and upgrade.

[@markpugh6808]

​@@kamisensei1616depends on the transfer there are some 4Ks that look worse than the Blu Ray transfers

[@ravf458]

Lately ive been reverting back to buying blurays new and used because like everything else 4k is getting more expensive and isnt always worth the trade off. Bluray quality is often fantastic and theyre so cheap now. On another note i see blurays and 4ks becoming more and more scarce going forward that at this point its more important to just own a copy than whether its on 4k or bluray.

[@Superdimensional]

When Blu-ray came out in 2006 I saw the difference in picture quality and decided to go all in. I too had about 500 DVD’s but I absolutely considered myself a “collector” but I knew with the quality difference I’d never want to watch those again, so I put them into large black hefty garbage bags and took them all to FyE and traded them in for store credit. I used that store credit on a BOGO sale to buy all Blu-ray’s and started my collection there with about 30 movies. I now have close to 1000 and about half are 4K, I’ve replaced and sold off a good portion of the Blu’s but some will probably just always remain in 1080p and that’s ok, they’re still worth watching to me, unlike DVD…. The PQ was just not good on HD sets let alone now on 4K sets.

[@dr.garynelson4687]

Bottom line for me, I buy Blu-rays that I like because at heart, I love movies. Sometimes it may be a 4K, sometimes a DVD, but I love movies. Isn't that the basic reason why all of us come to this site, to communicate with other movie lovers regardless of the physical format?

[@jamesmoore391]

I love standard blu ray, it’s my favourite format.

[@jeffcarlin5866]

Blu-ray remains my favorite format as well. I own over 400 4K U.H.D. Discs, but I still love Blu-ray -- especially titles that will never be released on 4K.

[@MrEdWeirdoShow]

Flush all DVDs. Blu-rays are there for films that are an improvement on DVDs, but don't ever deserve to be on 4K.

[@madyak6669]

4k only makes 13% of total Blu-ray sales. It's still a niche market and most people can't afford to upgrade to a new player.

[@stevenwells7621]

I prefer bluray unless its something on 4k only or a good price with the prices they charge on 4ks I'm happy with bluray

[@allsportnj]

A few years ago I had amassed a ton of discs, still have almost 900, but they were just taking up space. Decided to start backing them up to my server and can watch them anywhere with a internet connection. Now, I just need to get the rest done and clear up a bunch of space. Just going to hold on to some of my favorites.

[@rendez2k]

I still buy blurays if I want the movie and it's only available on that format and it's the best that's available

[@dustindixon6628]

Blu Ray is the best option for those on a budget who want a good and sometimes amazing image - audio. 4k is niche, and DVD holds it own still to this day. So the point is collect what you can afford.

[@Hicks-g1m]

Blu-ray will always have a spot in collectors hearts Ken I prefer it over dvd and 4k for it's protective covering

[@stevenlapierre1742]

I’m so confused don’t you spend 10 to 15 grand on physical media a year?

[@anthonymerchant2597]

I still purchase plenty of regular Blurays for my personal collection. For a small example instead of spending over 40 dollars for that Arrow release of Demolition Man on 4K, I got that with Tango and Cash with Over the Top for a fraction of the price for just a single 4K. I'm more than happy with the quality of the picture. I have also purchased plenty of films that haven't had a 4K release yet. The price between DVD to Bluray is not near as great a leap going to 4K. Yes, certain films I would prefer on 4K, but it doesn't mean every film needs to be especially at the prices some of them are going for.

[@sharkgomp385]

Yes, I feel like I’m doing it replacing my Blu-ray’s as the 4K’s come out and some some movies. I’ve never owned on Blu-ray or DVD and I’m just buying the 4K.

[@994pt4]

The point is PRICE POINT

[@Graphicxtras1]

Still buying mainly bluray, happy with the format. Not pushing them to the side over 4K. Still got dvds of favourites (scratched and all) that probably will never receive an upgrade and still watch them

[@TheOriginalFuzz]

Good video Ken. Personally, I don't really think in terms of format separation as much as I do just having the movie in my collection in the best available quality. I still love my blu-rays, because for many movies, that format will be the last stop and the best we'll get for those movies. I know there are a lot of titles out there that will probably never get a 4K release, so I'm happy to own any of those on blu-ray (which I still view as a high-quality format, relative to DVD). But I also love the growth we're seeing on the 4K format, and I'm sure we'll continue to see even more upgrades from blu over the next few years.

[@AVAPopCulture]

I feel the exact same!

[@NG-S.]

19:14 yesterday I finally justified the purchase of a bluray I brought 4 years ago. The big down side of having such a massive collection is sometimes it takes years to watch something you buy.

[@JeffW479]

For me I usually only buy the 4k of a film if I really like it, it's a film I'd rewatch over and over, AND it's a vast improvement over the blu in audio/video/features. Otherwise most films I'm happy with on blu as they're cheaper. Regardless how I feel, I think blu NEEDS to stay as the majority of people will opt for that format. 4k is still quite niche and not everyone has all the hardware to get the best out of the format.

[@vincentwalker3280]

With 4k players having the ability to enhance many Blu-ray disk, they are still worth purchasing.

[@greg3118]

Collecting blu-rays from 2015-2018 was such a blast! I remember Disney and Best Buy issuing $5 and $10 coupons for the blu-ray upgrades of certain movies, which made upgrading the DVD cheap. And some blus coming with movie tickets to the sequel. It makes me sad that era is over and that I've boxed up many of those blu-rays once I got the 4K.

[@ShaMicKan]

New movies for sure should just automatically be given a 4K release. Warner Archive has proven there is still a need for blu-ray. Most of those releases will never be on a better format. I wish they’d pull the plug on dvd. Kill it. All players are backwards compatible.

[@CanadianBacon6ix]

Warner archive in past year or 2 have really been putting out some good stuff onto bluray.

[@Lona_Chess]

Blurays still have lots of value. There’s countless movies that will likely never see a 4K release and are “only” on bluray. For those, I’m grateful we at least have them on BR, otherwise we’d have them on the far lesser experience of DVD or nothing at all.

[@patricklena9062]

I tell you Kenny you would absolutely pick my collection apart I don't separate the blu-rays from the 4Ks they are all in alphabetical order I don't separate by company screen factory arrow they just fall into alphabetical order for me and as far as regular DVDs those are separate in alphabetical order and the only DVDs I keep are the ones that I can't find on Blu-ray

[@DonOmegaMedia]

Most of us all the way into that Physical Media life are still buying plenty of new Blu-rays. VS and partner labels, TV, Film Masters, etc.

[@jsb1944]

I keep my reciepts in my blurays (games, dvds, 4ks, etc) that way I can look at when I bought it, where, was it on sale? It's fun to reminisce.

[@TallPaulInKy]

DVD is still the largest selling format. Many people have a Blu Ray player that will connect to your usual television. BUT with 4K you need to buy a new player and television. Plus I buy physical release for the special features such as audio commentaries. If you buy a 4K release (which I have no need for the 4K disk) the BluRay in the package contains the special features. Also I have a lot of 3D movies going back as far as The Wizard of Oz (1939) (not supported by 4K).

[@RobertQuant]

I barely found out that u also need A 4K tv 📺 to watch 4K movies 🎥 I’ll buy the player first then when I have money I’ll buy the 4K tv 📺

[@darreng4248]

Many of my blu rays look great, don't need to get 4ks for everything

[@eldritchmorgasm4018]

70% of my collection is still DVD, the rest is BR. No 4K. I collect since the 90s, only now I switched completely to BR, DVDs only if it's not mainstream-release like "Thunderbirds" where it's DVD only. Don't have to upgrade everything, not possible anyway.

[@jeffro9252]

That’s gross. DVD needs to go.

[@bastienchenaux-repond8578]

Great video Ken. I actually prefer standard Blu-Ray releases. I've been collecting many boutique editions and quite frankly, I'm getting tired of buying all these overpriced box sets. Shout and Arrow are mostly focusing on 4K upgrades and most of them aren't really that great. To me, all Kino and Shout Factory 4Ks are far too dark. My equipment is calibrated and I do have Dolby Vision on my 83 inch Sony Oled TV. One of my recent purchases, the UK Twister edition looked very ugly on 4k. It's a matter of taste if you like the green color change in the sky, but the 4K overall was far too dark - Details are totally lost.

[@benjijack22]

8K COMING SOON NOW WHAT!!!!!!!!! MADNESS!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@FilmsByColor]

I really enjoy these laid back discussion videos, Ken. We seem to be in a similar place in our collecting these days, so it’s great to hear your thoughts and perspective on this stuff. Keep up the great work, man 👍

[@donsantos8798]

I started as a 4k collector but ive been buying bluray movies that dont have 4ks yet Her Hateful eight Django Unchained Irishman Poor things Abigail A lot of studio ghibli classics Amores perros Etc etc

[@bloodydominations992]

I had a “4K or bust” mentality for awhile, but I’ve recently started buying more blu rays. You can usually get used blu rays for 5 to 10 bucks, so unless it’s one of your favorite movies it’s a great way to save money and bolster your collection. Also, recent movies shot digitally look 90% as good on blu ray compared to 4K.

[@screamingeekmedia]

I still watch a lot of my blurays and even some DVDs once in while. There are times I hold off for the same reason as you thinking a 4K might come out. I just looked at my list and didn't realize I had so many 4Ks now...637. But blurays I still have 895 and over 900 DVDs. I like keeping a little of everything. Always depends on my mood of what I want to watch.

[@richardpoirier2506]

I mostly buy blu-ray because they're slightly cheaper. I only buy movies I consider great on 4K because they are expensive in my opinion. Like everyone else said, collect what you can collect and be happy. I have a lot of DVD's and VHS and even Laserdiscs. I'm only upgrading the movies I feel are worth upgrading to blu-ray or 4K. I'm keeping most of them on the format I bought them on.

[@InimicusSolitus]

I just bought Westworld box set on bluray. It's not available on HBO anymore and I wanted to own it, but not enough to get the 4K. Honestly it looks great up-scaled on my Panasonic 820.

[@jimmm7339ki3456]

Because many movies are not on 4K. They are on Blu-ray and DVD and some aren’t even available on Blu-ray or DVD. Some are VHS only.

[@offroadcrazy9753]

I collect both 4k and Blu-ray and honestly on most Blu-ray and 4k are about the same . Some Blu-ray i have look better then 4k . Some 4k look better then Blu-ray. Guess depends on the movie. I have a samsung s95c 55" with a pineoneer 820b 4k player . Vizio elevate Dolby Atoms top the line vizio . Love it .

[@Briansopinion]

I just want the movie, not interested in the fluff and the extras, I don't think I have ever watched a behind the scenes.

[@brunomachado7279]

And those commentaries during the entire movie? 😮😮

[@Briansopinion]

@@brunomachado7279 I usually only watch a movie ONCE, there is only a few I watched more than once in my life, so I never even get a chance to watch with audio commentary.

[@chriskelly1740]

Beat ya. I focus on the titles I like. While I get each one in the latest and greatest format its available in, I will not stop watching a favorite title because it didn't get a format upgrade. Hell! There are series and a few movies only released on 480i sd DVD which are favorites of mine. While I WISH they'd get an upgrade, I love the series and movies enough to watch them on my seasonal schedule. Every time I upgrade a title or component in my system, it breathes new life into that title. I don't think this will ever get old.

[@THECOVERBANDMAN]

I only ever buy them if there's no 4k. And if they come out with a 4k after I usually don't upgrade until a deep sale. But for me they've become the special features disc's.

[@MrStuder24]

Good video as I’m too poor/cheap to afford the fancy sets my appreciation for cheap normal Blu-ray’s is very high.

[@Babreanki]

This is the reason im still looking for a good physical media channel.

[@midlevelmedia]

Hope you find one.

[@superg50zero32]

I still buy regular Blu-ray, 1080p looks very good on a oled tv. My only gripe is some new 4K UHD releases don't include a regular (1080p) Blu-ray. Not sure if the studios are phasing it out or just being cheap. I'm just astonished that DVD is still around.

[@Dark.RoomReviews]

As a media collector, Blu-rays are my go-to

[@jackrosati1438]

What's the point? When you buy your favorite movie on standard Blu-ray it's guaranteed to get a 4k announcement the next month 😂

[@midlevelmedia]

Very true. Lol

[@Scifi4life]

4k is a scam

[@stephannelson8780]

Honestly, this video is very timely for me because I have been feeling the same way. Especially this weekend I went to an estate sale and I picked up a lot of good titles on Blu-ray and even a few DVDs that do not have a Blu-ray or they have special features that the Blu-ray do not have. I got most of the titles for a dollar apiece and then I went back for the second day and everything was down to $.50 and I got a few more when it all comes down to it. We love movies and yes 4K looks the best but at the end of the day Every format is watchable and enjoyable, and we should just watch our collection and appreciate what we have on every format. Movies, Movies, Movies

[@Billysmovies2891]

2/3 of my collection is still blu ray. Most of them were bought online in the last 4 years. Before that, my Collection was all dvd. So, i still appreciate standard Blu-rays. Most of my in store purchases have been dvd and i dont have many memory of being in the stores.

[@michelle_pgh]

I've pretty much stopped buying blu-ray. I bought a whole two movies on blu-ray last year, both ones that I am pretty sure will never get a 4k. And I've been dumping my blu-ray copy when I upgrade a film to 4k. So yes, they are kind of sitting there just waiting to be upgraded.

[@user-friendly-b6q]

I just love blu-rays . They are my pride and joy along with the few 4ks I own.

[@jamieloudon6691]

I stopped buying blu rays a long time ago. My collection is almost exclusively 4K. There's a few stubborn blu rays that seem unlikely to get upgraded that I hang on to.

[@jcanada9405]

The bluray is still the central aspect of my collection. Many films look fantastic and good enough, and many as you suggested will never get a 4k upgrade even upon a new remaster and release. I'm really looking forward tobmany cool filmsbon blu only like upcoming kino release of The Glass Web.

[@solipsisticsquanderer]

I've spent the last 5 years watching 2K blurays on a 2008 plasma. I recently bought an LG C4 OLED and 2K blurays are unbelievable. I'm not very keen on what Dolby Vision is, but my TV turns on Dolby Vision for ALL 2K blurays. I think that's what's doing the magic.

[@frommatorav1]

Dolby Vision should only turn on if the movie was made with that feature. Your TV is probably upscaling the blurays and they probably just look better on the new OLED. I bought an LG C1 OLED 65" a couple of years ago and rewatching movies is like a new experience, compared to my old 55" 4k TV. Blurays are good but nothing beats a 4k with Ultra HDR or Dolby Vision on my C1 OLED. Your C4 OLED is just brighter and a little better at upscaling non 4k media than my C1.

[@solipsisticsquanderer]

@frommatorav1 Do you know why HDR gets activated on 2K blurays with the C4? The disc player is a Sony UBP-X700. With Dolby Vision turned off on the bluray player, 2K blurays play in SDR, but when I activate Dolby Vision on the bluray player, it also activates HDR, even on 2K discs! This is very strange, and not what I was expecting, but it is really amazing. Another thing - Dolby Vision also makes the OLED have the same kind of film-like motion I was accustomed to with plasma. It was a huge concern before buying the C4, but now the soap opera effect is gone.

[@frommatorav1]

@@solipsisticsquanderer I have that same bluray player. One issue is Dolby Vision setting has to be turned off and on in the settings. The Panasonic 4k players enable the Dolby Vision automatically but the Sony's you have to turn Dolby Vision on and I guess it stays on. If you turn the Dolby Vision setting off on the bluray player, I would be surprised if it had a negative effect. I spent a few minutes with settings for motion to get one I liked. The C4 has a motion setting you can just enable, that is supposed to work really well with motion.

[@jjchmiel78]

There is a very select few of Blu-ray I actively purchase anymore. I pay attention to the used market for out of print and unlikely to get 4K (Disney owned titles). I have limited dollars so I concentrate them on 4K and they are doing well enough right now more 4K I want is released than I can afford to get. As an example Kino Lorber is releasing the movie Houseboat for the first time on Blu-ray. I refuse to get, at least for full price or anytime soon. They said it is from a 6K scan and I can't help think another studio/import will release it as a 4K like it should have been.

[@MichaelC_22]

Blu-rays look good upscaled on my Panasonic 4k player/75" TCL. There are still many of my older films in my collection that have only ever been released on DVD.

[@Graphicxtras1]

The same, lots of great films only on dvd so not getting rid of those, same with blurays. Happy with bluray quality but have some 4K

[@myretronation]

I still remember my first media buys My first DVDs were Akira (that Pioneer steelbook release), Family Man, and The Matrix My first BDs were Iron Man and the first Bayformers movie My first 4K disc was Batman V Superman

[@jhberg17]

Put Dolby Vision on all blu rays and I’d skip 4K.

[@MrCREWCRUSHIN95]

Dolby Vision is 10 bit. 2k is 8 bit. Cannot be done.

[@calebsmall]

Not possible

[@frommatorav1]

HDR is possible in 1080p but not Dolby Vision.

[@siscokid11]

@@frommatorav1 This must be specific to the Bluray format I am guessing? I am NOT saying people should do this, but if you sail the high seas for just a few minutes you can find plenty of 1080p movies with Dolby Vision encoded from 4K UHD discs.

[@bened22]

Either I don't know something fundamental about Dolby Vision or there is confusion in this thread. Yes, Dolby Vision requires 10 bit colors (and emulates 12 bit colors), but it has nothing to do with the pixel resolution. So yes, Blu Rays don't have enough colors but apart from that the 1080p (or alternatively 2K) wouldn't be a problem. I think what would also hinder HDR (including Dolby Vision) on Blu Rays is the older compression algorithm that might look especially bad when DV pushes the contrasts.

[@DonOmegaMedia]

I like having old Blu-rays AND DVDs for loner copies, gifts, special features that didn't carry over, different color timing, covers, packaging/nostalgia, etc. I also just really think there's going to come a time where SOME people around me will want to get back into physical media, at least to a small extent, and I'll have titles I can GIVE them that'll encourage their desire to own movies again. And then when they see nice editions from my collection, I think a couple of friends/family could become inspired enough to buy a few new titles themselves.

[@Dingoboy4565]

Majority of my library is Blu-ray. And the 4K that I do have are basically movies that are not on Blu-ray and eventually I will get a 4K TV and a 4K player. But in the meantime, I am extremely happy with Blu-ray.

[@MAXIMUSTBE]

People hype vhs like people are really buying it

[@shinycheeto5779]

Luckily I’ve never had this problem with any of my 4Ks but I hear people complain about how sensitive the discs are. Movies will freeze or skip when playing. I can’t imagine having my immersion broken during a 1st time watch. It’d put me away from the format if I ran into that issue regularly. Also high quality transfers on Blu-ray still look good

[@colossus808e]

With bluray, it all depends on the transfer. High-bitrate AVC blu ray transfers with bitrates close to 30 mbps look really good. its the older bluray transfers with low bitrates and usually AV-1 compression that look trash. For those, even a blu ray remaster would make them look worlds better.

[@devonbrooks246]

Ken I am glad that you still appreciate your BDs. I am about ten years older than you and I will tell you your priorities do change with collections as you get older. When I have a son going to college, I tend to feel a little guilty about spending so much on a movie just to have a 4K version of it. When you watch a movie on DVD or BD, are you still getting the enjoyment of the movie? I don't need to watch the 4K for me to change my mind whether I like the movie or not. 4K movies are so expensive. Sometimes I just want the BD with a 4K scan. I don't need chunky box sets. Nothing against those who do. What I absolutely love is the combo packs. Give me 4K plus BD or BD plus DVD. Also I always think about when my time is up in life and I pass on from this world, I will never get any of that money back from a collectors box set.

[@MC-bh8ph]

Having an oled with sensible picture settings (as opposed to the horrid default settings that all these TVs have) does way more for picture quality than upgrading to 4k from blu ray, which does almost nothing

[@frommatorav1]

The 4ks I watch on my OLED look a lot better than bluray. Bluray looks good and in some cases great but not as good as 4k with HDR or Dolby Vision. Not every bluray needs upgraded to 4k but if I have a choice, I buy a 4k movie that also includes a bluray. Studios leaving out blurays is a bad practice that I hope doesn't become the norm.

[@northman_loves_movies]

Hi Ken. Great video. I agree , the blurays in the collection have a lot of memories. 😊 I'm not a big 4K guy. I don't think that all the 4K's have great picture quality and color. Many are too dark in my opinion. And they are overprized. 😋 So I still buy new blurays , so I can afford to support physical media in my country. 😆 But I also buy used bluray and dvd just to get the movie. I buy movies for the movie 😁.

[@MrCREWCRUSHIN95]

4K Blu-ray INCREASES the luminance on movies. If you are using streaming 4k as a benchmark- don't. Streaming 4k is a joke. The nits on a 4k Blu-ray will often be double to quadruple what they are on a 2k Blu-ray- so the "darker" argument makes no sense. (User error)

[@probie2460]

"Like tears in rain..."

[@invicta6110]

Blu ray are more durable than either DVD or 4k discs, so on the secondary market they're where I look first. To me, it's about the movie. Just having a title is my biggest concern, upgrading in format is secondary. If I never have the opportunity to upgrade a title to 4k or even Blu ray, I'm ok with that.

[@Espo2250]

As for regular studio releases, yes i agree that nobody is gonna purchase a blu ray over a 4k but vinegar syndrome and arrow still put out some fantastic transfers on blu ray. My biggest problem is those horrible recycable cases and the cheap packaging. i HATE that!