Midnight Snack horror animation by David Romero

A homeless man seeks shelter in an abandoned building, unaware of the horror that waits for him.
My senior animation piece for UArts. Watch it at night, preferably with some good headphones.

[@mmm_pepEroni]

the fact that this man found a heart in a wall in an abandoned building and decided to eat it scares me more than that ghost

[@cheese2937]

Probably thought it was a potato

[@republic0_032]

@@cheese2937 then he should at least have realised after he began eating?

[@RuSosan]

That's tuesday in the Balkans.

[@CCaster2000]

To be fair it didn't really look like a heart at first. More long a weird potato.

[@wekl_]

yeah thats scary

[@novaes5979]

Dude really grabbed a heart and went "ayy my favorite snack lmao" 💀

[@charisant]

Potato

[@GLADOS19789]

Nah, i think he didnt notice/realize it was a heart and thought it was a potato + he was hungry

[@Deathworm-eg5lt]

@@GLADOS19789tf? It’s a human heart, I think it’s pretty damn easy to tell the difference between a vegetable and a beating piece of meat

[@GLADOS19789]

@@Deathworm-eg5lt okay you win

[@Deathworm-eg5lt]

@@GLADOS19789 👍

[@kykise1395]

Poor guy. He didn’t seem to have any malicious intent, he just wanted somewhere to stay so he wouldn’t freeze to death.

[@theclickening6668]

This is all because some dude was hungry, so the ghost just wanted her heart back. She ran after him, just to get a new heart. Wanna add something else?

[@kykise1395]

GREARY I would also like to add that your mother is a grown man.

[@quin4568]

@@kykise1395 relax😂🤣

[@itsthemozzmeister9720]

and have some food to eat

[@elenakolenovic7254]

Chuckles The Clown I was crying 😂

[@ApetureTestSubject]

Honestly, Ghost Lady wasn't being unreasonable. Man walks in, pulls your heart out and eats it, you're entitled to demand it back. I do love the mix of 2D animation and model backgrounds. The real torch light is a brilliant touch.

[@Spookweave]

Based ghost 👍

[@-rainbow2939]

Here’s a tip: if something comes out of the walls... eat it

[@onemob1]

From the gods oh my lord.

[@mr.spider6859]

Okay, Simon Belmont.

[@JustBr4vo]

*YOU ATE MY HEART!!!!!*

[@kaytlinjustis5643]

Or better yet, DON'T!

[@mochamanplays257]

Castlevania isn’t to be trusted, my brother

[@jdlo56]

anyone feel a Silent Hill-esqe vibe from this? from the abandoned bldg, to the creepy artifacts, and weird 'wall heart'? AWESOME DAVID!

[@Baron_Humbert_von_Gikkingen]

I’m two years late but the moment he reached in the wall it reminded me of silent hill 2

[@leviboom0932]

@@Baron_Humbert_von_Gikkingen more like the silent hill 4 the room tho, specially the hole

[@BlackWolf207]

Apartment looked exactly like one from Silent Hill 2, even had the same reaching into the hole thing.

[@mikesimcoe7115]

Not in the slightest

[@insurgentleman]

@@mikesimcoe7115 bait

[@beanzuwu]

Man just ate a heart without question

[@norminator4563]

He was hungry

[@norminator4563]

@Ethan Erpelding he at a random thing he pulled out of the wall it was probably diseased

[@asimghaffar8148]

@@norminator4563 Starvation will drive you.

[@norminator4563]

@@asimghaffar8148 would you eat a dead animal that wass rotting for weeks if you were starving.

[@asimghaffar8148]

@@norminator4563Possibly...

[@PHENOXSPARTAN]

Reminds me of one of those really creepy book stories. Man walked by a butchery store window and saw a liver for sale. Dude loved liver, so he bought it and had his wife cook it up for him. After he ate it, a ghost appears and asks where her liver is. The wife just points at her husband and rats him out. The story ends after he screams in terror.

[@zuzannab8119]

Tere was a nice short movie based on it, too

[@PHENOXSPARTAN]

@@zuzannab8119 Yeah, I liked it.

[@Damodred_Heiress]

I remember that story! I believe it was in one of the Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark books!

[@PHENOXSPARTAN]

@@Damodred_Heiress YES

[@thepowerofIandI]

@@Damodred_HeiressCalled “Just Delicious”

[@titanslayer492]

I did not expect her to talk. Completely caught me off guard added to the horror. Also, I don't know how you produce your sounds but they're downright disturbing and help to bring the story to life. Great job.

[@smoothcriminal5650]

No, talking makes it less scary.

[@HaterCentral]

It kinda got me because how much im used to his silent videos

[@mrcocoloco7200]

@@HaterCentral Facts

[@DUES_EX]

You must be a child. Talking makes it less scary

[@mrcocoloco7200]

@@DUES_EX More like your the Child. This Animation scare this person in the first place because we expected it not to speak. Is been a while we haven't seen the main thread speaking. If you didn't find it scary good for you but that doesn't mean everyone must react the same way like you.

[@divad7137]

3:43 Damn, that spectrussy be crazy

[@VERGILGASM]

How could you say something so controversial yet so based?

[@CharzzTheAnimated]

Spiritussy

[@imnothere5127]

Wild

[@denimationStudio]

Great short film. I didn't realise at first that the backgrounds were actual sets, but it add a whole extra layer or creepy. Very nice touch.

[@THE_BIRDY]

yeah, i noticed that the wallpaper was a paper towel. doesn't make it low quality, just distracted me

[@darkvoid5978]

I disagree, the light being disconnected from it's source really ruined my immersion

[@RandomGamer-]

​@@darkvoid5978 The light isn't even that disconnected from the source. Plus, matching animation with live action can be really difficult.

[@bull_frogGAMING]

If you look closely in the room that he sleeps in the wall is made.out of a paper towel

[@bensdecoypoondummy1189]

the 2d animation over the physical model house film is such a unique style. Good work

[@amberangelwbrokenwings7528]

You should get way more credit then you get. The Other Lilly was amazing. This one was amazing. Everything you do, all of your work, it's all amazing. Keep doing your work, we love you and your so so much. Thank you for not allowing me to ever sleep *cough* *cough* I mean for giving something cool to do and to creep out my friends! We all love you, David!

[@cinemamind]

AAAAAHHH!!! Thank you so much!! ^//////^ I'm planning on making more shorts in the future (and maybe opening up a patreon... we'll see).

[@onemob1]

Lol hi 2 years later we love ur art and work

[@tammylara7950]

@@cinemamind hi

[@tammylara7950]

Where r u

[@dustinhenderson9070]

@@cinemamind can you make part 2 of this plzzzz

[@specsamhain_909]

I love how these films are, they're like if children's books met the apocalypse

[@julissasailormercury6738]

Dang he stuffed that heart in his mouth, he must've been starving 😂

[@Himursa]

He didn't even use the fork

[@白キロ]

my humor is to dark I cant 💀💀💀💀

[@Sungodess888]

He dint even want a side or any bread. 😕

[@RuSosan]

@@Sungodess888 He didn't have anything else to eat there, he already looked.

[@RyDaMoOnline]

What a video! Poor guy didn't even question why meat would be in the wall or that the gas still works, he was just starving. Absolutely LOVE this animation style with 3d models. Jump scare was spot on too!

[@user-fg9mp5mt5x]

I have an abandoned building complex in my area where the gas wasn't turned off. It's the countryside, so it's not full of hobos regardless. Sometimes utilities are "forgotten".

[@RyDaMoOnline]

Thank you for replying! I had no idea, it actually made sense in the video then

[@Stanutuleee]

I always felt bad about the homeless man..i wanted him to get out alive

[@rikahnraysilver5484]

Udarnats I agree I was hoping he would survive he didn’t seem bad just starving

[@georgedickinson6147]

Same

[@nutjarinnabinger542]

Same

[@sebastianlee6260]

Who eats a heart they pull out a wall tho

[@thatoneguy7404]

@@sebastianlee6260 looked like a potato too me ngl

[@crunchu]

I choose the believe the video just ends at 3:20 and this is just a cute small story of an unfortunate fellow who is trying to find somewhere warm to stay and some food, nothing happens past that

[@Scarshadow666]

This is my favorite horror animation from you! The main character is tragic because all he wants is something to eat and then the realization/consequence of eating what he ate is creepy! Hope more people take notice of your animation! 👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@ghientruyen8461]

I think the ghost wouldn't have appeared if the man hadn't eaten its heart. Do you think the ghost also felt creepy when he saw the man eating it heart?:))))

[@betoneiracromadarebaixada8187]

There are two types of protagonists in David Homero's videos. There's that woman at pleasant inn who has common sense, and there's this man... who thought eating something unidentified that fell down a bizarre hole in an abandoned house is somehow a good idea

[@blurr7987]

And the one with a shotgun who fought off against the pine devil.

[@dami8875]

Tbf this guy is a homeless man, probably so desperate to eat something he doesn't question what it was.

[@Simbathekitty4]

4:11 Me on my way to get the last slice of pizza

[@BenDover-tk3jj]

My dude really just ate a wall heart, he must've been starving

[@Real_Potato_Man]

Tbh it didn't really look like a heart, more like a patty of some sort

[@Samuel-zt1my]

He thought it was a potato

[@Real_Potato_Man]

@@Samuel-zt1my *_...Look like a what now?_*

[@elissaforte]

@@Samuel-zt1my He sure didn't cook it like a potato

[@DoğuÖzaltunoğlu]

Street rule number one: Food is good.

[@KjtheCraza]

This scared the shit out of me. I've been desensitized to horror but the moment see says "give me my heart" and screamed it just scared me. Thanks David for keeping e up at night you rule

[@matthewlaine2005]

I just realized he uses an actual setup for the flashlight shots and it is barely noticeable. God damn do i appreciate your work.

[@notinorderdecent]

Ikrrr!!

[@SM-ce1uy]

1:15 I'd have noped out of there so quick ! fantastic animation, and SFX. simply amazing

[@TalesFromtheForbiddenBlender]

Her off-kilter movement as she rampages down the hallway did it for me. Brilliant work.

[@snowy3842]

the way you combine 3d and 2d for that animation was so cool the background being a set and using a real light for the animated flashlight was really cool.

[@CubicParadox]

4:38 I thought the nose was her mouth and it was a cute skeptical look. Then I noticed the bloody smile below the nose and was scared like hell

[@lsndoks8241]

Ooooh I see it now interesting detail

[@CubicParadox]

​@@lsndoks8241 ikr...gave me nightmares lol

[@GideonLentz]

The fact that he got ready to cut the heart but then scarfed the wole thing got me dead

[@Veroveren]

Oh gob! I remember watching this while I was younger! I cant remember what happened but I immediately got a rush of nostalgia upon seeing the thumbnail. Thank you KZbin!!

[@iceblast4462]

Im not sure why but when he found the heart and smile it just made me adore him so much

[@AdamIncOfficial]

GIVE ME BACK MY HEEEEEAAAARTTTTTT (Giga chad music starts playing)

[@TheSorexGod]

We're going to eat Hearths with this One 🗣️🔥💯

[@ONEZEROONEZEROONEZERO10101]

Dude the drawing here is perfect ‏‪4:05‬‏

[@kitty_paws.b]

this man *really* knows how to make the impression im not safe from any direction. the doll, the weird noise, basically the entire house he goes into is unsafe. edit: he was smiling so big when he found the kindney/heart. that made me very disturbed.

[@TheSameGoobyGuy]

The fact that she waited for him to return to that hole after eating her heart 💀

[@turtle3213]

Even the doll was like ," yo wtf you were supposed to be scared not eat that shit.."

[@mclover1053]

I love the fake out in this. It's hinted that the doll is the scary thing in this. it would be less scary then what actually happened

[@parthjoshi7104]

What's more scarier is , in the last he tried to run to the exit, just imagine being so close to that exit and not able to get through it .

[@Receptionist_]

You're right, made my heart drop a little📈📈

[@harazhangf5782]

Just discovered this and well done. And I really enjoy the animation style on this one and Pine devil. That being said : 2:51 I knew it was a bad idea. 3:51 you got me.

[@StygianNightmare]

So like homeless or not (and I've been homeless) I'm not about to eat random wall meat I find in an abandoned house. Sick stylistic art and Noice character design! A++ to the animator

[@Ballerdawg-gx2yb]

I remember watching this when I was a young child, I’m glad the KZbin algorithm is giving me some scary nostalgia

[@biglarry4965]

I treminds me alot of the toe story form scary stories to tell in the dark

[@onemob1]

big larry, true. “from 2 years later” :)

[@chimpwimp9407]

That's what I was thinking except here eating the heart makes sense.

[@nerdboy4555]

@@chimpwimp9407 same 11 months later

[@l3m0n_dr0p]

3:58 "GiVe Me BaCk My HeArT!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

[@shayoko6]

i understand that he was desperate. but it still makes no sense he thought there would be any food in an abandoned building. only way i can see this happening is humanity ended.

[@Simbathekitty4]

I dont think the ghost was really that evil. She just wanted her heart back. If I was a ghost and someone ate my heart, I would want it back.

[@Nighttale233]

Guess you can say that was HEARTLESS of him to do that xD

[@littleravenstag3612]

oh my..

[@Erik_Ochoa013]

👏👏👏

[@RuSosan]

_Give me back_ myyyYY *LIIIIIKE!!!*

[@yang7685]

Poor guy was just cold and hungry 😢 He probably thought it was just a potato

[@levianwolvesvayne4557]

3:01 Homeless man: Eyeeeh potatoe! Me: NO PUT IT BACK NOW!! 3:28 Doll: Oh you done fucked up! 0_0"

[@NEVA_OFFICIAL]

Thats why the heart was gray This monster stays until someone gets his/hers heart and after get them heart and do this over and over

[@user-hb4zz4gh5e]

This saddened me more than it scared me tbh

[@sawtist]

damn this video was my childhood. scared the shit out of little me, i wouldn’t stick my hand into any holes i couldn’t clearly see the other side of for over a year.

[@huracan9499]

That heart-like thing very looks like sweet potato.

[@ArtisticAlchemy888]

Man just ate a heart without any over thinking.Thank God we think before every action.well a good recommendation after 7 years

[@heinrichknierim5666]

Dude puts his hand in a mystery hole takes out a heart AND EATS IT ! What ?

[@GuPKay]

Had me thinking… quite the glorious hole

[@papercreates6458]

Perfect Right amount of horror with a little bit of gore. Perfect.

[@AMPHIPIUSTHEWALRUS]

I love your animation style, how did you do it? it flows so well together. I have my own ideas I'd like to animate, what software did you use, or do you have a better way of animating? Anyway I think you are a brilliant animater, I hope I can become as good as you one day.

[@traumatizedmacasio8682]

Hes just good

[@tomasmax5616]

Dude cant even eat a potato without being chased by a demon.

[@God-if9xx]

This Ariel view & perspective is insane. This whole scene looks like a video game. Truly phenomenal.

[@Little_Fred]

3:27 LOL she was like: Bro WTF?????

[@Mr.Krayzer]

you are from Brazil?

[@Little_Fred]

@@Mr.Krayzer Yes,and nobody asked but i need to practice my english

[@rod_z7]

fr ​@@Little_Fred

[@justin2308]

I understand he was starving, but if I just pulled a heart out of a wall I’d be asking questions…

[@RuSosan]

Just another day in the Balkans, lol.

[@lsndoks8241]

This is really good work You made the whole floor scene just to shot this You're genius bro

[@dertd3058]

Кто от криповых историй (: Лайык

[@lolkekibrek1733]

Яяяяяяя

[@Ма11на11]

Жалко бомжа

[@lolkekibrek1733]

@@Ма11на11 ага

[@old_gamer6841]

Яяяяяяя

[@avalesha6279]

@@Ма11на11 бамж патік

[@CandyGirl1901-jc2qb]

i love the part were the monster said "give me back my HEART!!!!!!".

[@georgeofhamilton]

Ah, I remember watching this when it was new. Your animations have a nice, memorable cozy aesthetic.

[@aNiceGato]

I remember a teacher showed me and my class this back in my elementary school, truly terrifying experience at the time, and watching it now just make me wondered “Huh? It was more different when i first watched it”

[@Chartus-ij1rp]

Goated teacher

[@CubicParadox]

Why did your teacher show you a horror clip in elementary 😅😅😅

[@overlordninja4658]

I felt so bad for him

[@impan2051]

Fr thought it was a potato 💀💀 man I would never survive in these horror stories 💀

[@dylanzuo1414]

The first Gothic element in Midnight Snack is the bad weather. In the video, the literal blizzard taking place leads a homeless man to seek shelter. The second Gothic element in Midnight Snack is the 'castle' element so to speak. The building itself isn't a castle, but its dilapidated and abandoned, and I assume Slender Woman is the 'king' of the place. Seeing shelter, the homeless man easily breaks in and begins walking around the place, checking for unlocked apartment doors and looking for a place to sleep. Which brings me to the third element: the supernatural. There are three main instances of this theme occurring. The first is when the homeless man enters the unlocked apartment and shines his flashlight around the room. A doll that looks like it has syphilis coupled with late stage brain cancer seems to teleport around the room between exposures to the flashlight. This is just a hypothesis, but I'm guessing the doll was a messenger for Slender Woman? Anyway, back on track. The teleporting doll has almost no purpose in the whole film, but it does set a creepy and unsettling atmosphere for the video. The second instance of the supernatural occurring was when the homeless man -I'm going to call him Jim from now on for brevity's sake- was sleeping on the couch after his unsuccessful attempts at finding sustenance. Jim is woken up by some sort of slithering noise coming from a hole in the wall, and when he reaches inside, his hand comes out with an article of protein, presumably some sort of organ. Now, I identify this as a usage of the 'supernatural' theme because the food in the fridge was rotten and there was no food anywhere else in the apartment. Why would a piece of perishable, fresh meat come from a crusty hole in the wall? The video uses this instance of supernatural to further the sense of mystery and creepiness already thickly shrouded around it. Later, Jim is roused by the same slithering noise that woke him earlier. When he looks into the cavity, Jim sees some sort of bloody, fleshy socket. Moments later, an eight foot tall female version of Slender Man reveals herself by crawling out of a hole as wide as the diameter of a normal person's arm. The two sentences above are my third and last example of the supernatural. I think this one is pretty self explanatory. The purpose of revealing a less attractive version of Slender Man was to climax the video and begin the falling action. When Slender Woman pops out of the wall screaming "GIVE ME BACK MY HEART!!", Jim is terrified. In addition, Slender Woman is mad as a bull. This brings my fourth gothic theme, 'extreme emotion', to the table. The purpose of this theme was to slather on a healthy helping of drama and tension to the remaining part of the video. Understandably, Jim makes a run for it. A nightmare inducing chase follows, with Jim panting along and Slender Woman crawling (with awful sound effects) and gaining ground. Finally! The doorway out is in sight! It looks as if Jim is going to escape after all when Alas! he trips on the door he busted in earlier and falls through the floor. Desperately scrabbling the doorframe in vain attempts to escape, a pale, slimy hand pulls poor Jim under into the abyss. Then come a series of interesting sound effects, with the video viewer seeing only blackness. A short time after Jim stops screaming, Slender Woman holds the flashlight up to her body, revealing a new scarlet heart beating afresh where there used to be a hole. The last Gothic theme I was able to identify in this rollercoaster of a video was the 'violence' trait. Slender Woman pulling Jim down into a hole and ripping out his heart classifies as violence in my opinion. The purpose of this was to bring an effective ending to the video, as well as giving the viewer some serious nightmares.

[@samuelrodriguez9801]

Actually it wasn’t just a slithering sound at the beginning but also the sound of a beating heart. The organ he pulled out and ate was actually the heart of the ghost woman note how she says “give me back my heart!” Also after he ate the heart notice how the doll’s eyes were opened.

[@matterking1]

Use spacing my guy. Format it to be readable, cause no one will read a wall of text.

[@kombatant2154]

whatever you say bro

[@furancodensetsu2086]

Boring

[@jevildeltarune6222]

Bro just wrote down what the vid was

[@401_jake]

3:59 I do like how you can feel the rage inside the The heartless Woman when she screams "Give me back my Heart!" It gives me some sympathy for her, obviously the Homeless Man would've been fine if he didn't take something from her, especially her heart.

[@spitzune3925]

Look I'm late but seriously how does the stove still work in 3:07?

[@georgeofhamilton]

Maybe it was connected to a gas tank.

[@spitzune3925]

@@georgeofhamilton how would the gas still be on

[@georgeofhamilton]

@@spitzune3925 The gas tank and the stove could've still been connected even though the building was abandoned.

[@SuperJeffyChris]

4:11 She really smacked her head on the wall and did not care

[@JJMarmite]

My sympathy is diminished somewhat by the fact he pulled a heart out the wall and ate it. Like, son, you don't know where that's been or how long it was there for. Times are tough but honestly, that's asking for trouble. Excellent stuff, mind.

[@RuSosan]

Man taking _"eat your heart out"_ on a whole new level.

[@kp9894]

So you're telling me he just ate a literal heart that came from a seemingly suspicious "hole" in the wall?

[@vantablack3831]

Did everyone miss the "Tell-Tale Heart" reference? He was dragged underneath the floorboards. Home is where the heart is...

[@dhz4]

You're just too good at this stuff! You deserve a lot more support!

[@basicwhitebread9619]

This man really rummaged around in a hole in the wall, found some mystery meat, and then ate it without a second thought

[@shannonpotratz489]

I absolutely love your sound design... GREAT STUFF!!

[@EnclaveSgt]

and heart design too

[@noobody89]

I liked the diorama you used for most of this. I thought it gave great texture to the animation.

[@kyrursa]

It's stuff like this that makes me love horror it actually made me jump and kept me invested the entire time really good work.

[@SandwichGuardian]

This man pulled a beating heart out of a wall. His first action was to fry it up.

[@kingslxyer666]

man i wanted him to live, no one deserves to be homeless

[@alreynante3525]

Ill be honest i kind had some hints that the thing he ate was a heart before the lady appeared. The guy woke up to hear a sound similar to a beating heart and by the time he pulled out the 'potato' from the wall the beating stopped, honestly those hints are quite clever

[@Rosbif48]

3:50 "Who's been eating my zha zhang mian?"

[@gamingwithjohnrusso3385]

When I first watched that, I thought the heart was a potato. I learned QUICKLY.

[@lsndoks8241]

Yeah me too

[@belinda0763]

Some of these comments are about why he didn’t even ask himself to eat somthing without doubt, but when ur so hungry it’s challenging to think about somthing you wanted for a very long time.. being homeless sucks😔😔😔

[@jaylenhaddock5444]

This is so sad but yet scary he was just Hungry and then when he smiled so nice, poor guy

[@hexkwondo]

Yeah, I’m all for suspense of disbelief but, eating a heart you just dug out of a wall in a grotesque apartment is really pushing it!

[@oren1305]

You'd be shocked what people eat when they're starving...

[@wackypenguin94]

Bro, people be eating full on humans when they could go to a macdonald's for 1$ 💀

[@5uperM]

Man. So many classics. I thought i never saw this anination, but when i started watching memories came flooding back.

[@HungNongIanh]

LOL 4:19 ITS A SCARY HORROR BUT WHY SO FUNNY ITS MADE ME LAUGH LOL

[@sirtieman]

roblox table scream

[@Abdulaziz-ku6xs]

That city looking like Stalingrad in 1900

[@optisprimusproductions]

4:04 in one hand it's all fully animated, the light too. On the other, he sculpts the house irl, and drags a flashlight above, and added the animated characters in

[@Daughter_ofStars]

This is fantastic, please keep up the good work! You deserve so much more attention for this

[@thewarningwoods]

Creepy! This short leaves much to the imagination in a good way 👏🏻

[@brodbreack3596]

Есть русские? Давайте все лайкеем этот комм чтоб другие думали что здесь что то умное! Алсщалал валал. Алалалад😅

[@Chmony33]

С любовью из России:)

[@sultikstv1313]

Ахах идея с тиктока

[@Chmony33]

@@sultikstv1313 что такое тик ток?

[@---nt3mi]

Оладоколадок

[@---nt3mi]

@Maksim Prokofev Конечно топ нас даже везде узнают

[@CocoDePopo]

“GIVE ME BACK MY HEEEEEAAAARRT!!!” 🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@phycoticangel666]

I remember seeing this and it was really well made...I love this

[@grantbrazelton5620]

A little fear and hunger fly sound effect in the fridge, nice touch

[@IXAKOV]

From Russia with love:)

[@ядевушканафег]

Idesh nahuy i vse, okda?

[@ядевушканафег]

@@IXAKOV proveryay vseh

[@ядевушканафег]

@@IXAKOV a mozhet ti paren'

[@Aarlert]

This short film always made me sad when i was younger cause this guy was just cold and hungry and didn't deserve to get hurt

[@Burago2k]

3:15 knives are overrated eh?