Cost of small house concrete slab foundation (720 square feet)

In this video I talk and show you how the concrete slab is poured and how much is cost. I talk about the price of the foundation and breakdown some costs and what it takes to get it poured. You will see the small 720 square foot concrete foundation get done from start to finish. This small house build will be documented step by step and I will show you how each step looks and how much all the major expenses cost.

[@MigraineCraftsman]

Hello all, Keep in mind, world is a big place and it has different geographical locations will have different climates and therefore different building codes. All this is done up my to local building codes (my winters are almost non existant and no earthquakes here either) Thank you for watching.

[@lilleeon]

Keep the build-board conclusion idea that you use . It is good for a quick screen shot and good for a conclusion

[@Nguoimientrungohouston]

How much you do this thank you

[@joshuagalvan5422]

Where's the rebar?

[@lashawntinsley3407]

So how much was the plumbing build and concrete together. Have a project I want to do around the same size.

[@anonymousbyproxy8250]

@@joshuagalvan5422 I am wandering the same. Maybe that is why it is so cheap. I doubt he used fiberglass or micro steel spikes in the concrete.

[@johndoe3328]

Notice that they barely say a word to each other. You know you have a good concrete crew when nobody needs to say anything during the pour because everyoneis a professional who knows what they are doing. Excellent work!

[@MigraineCraftsman]

When you work with someone for a while this becomes norm and your guys know what to do without saying anything. That is gold.

[@anitajinfla9762]

Exactly... They all did a great job... Thank them for me.. It's quite the job and back breaking to work out that concrete. Awesome job guys! 👍😃

[@nirpy]

The mud was so wet and easy, they didn't need to say anything

[@johndoe3328]

@@nirpy That's the way it's supposed to be . It's not necessarily "wet" per se, . They don't mention what mix design. there are other factors besides water content that affect the slump and workability of the mud. Up here NW Ohio, that slab would have a footing at a minimum of 36 inches deep below the final grade in order to prevent frost jacking. That's the building code around here. But I've poured concrete down south too, where that isn't necessary. However they have other problems to deal with, such as wildlife. like fire ants, venomous spiders and snakes. Up here in Ohio you don't have to deal with any of that freaky stuff. The worst we have is mud dauber wasps who gather cement paste off the surface of the concrete to build their nests out of it.

[@swing_king-x3212]

Hell yeah!

[@factdesignbr]

I bought a piece of land for 7500... built a small cabin then a garage by it... spent 7500 on that too . 4000 on the cabin and 3500 on the garage which is almost like a barn... anyways... now Im saving for the big house. God bless

[@banditbliqz]

God bless . keep up the good work !

[@bluekeet]

i like honesty and transparency with prices of anything, I liked and subbed.

[@MigraineCraftsman]

Thank you, and welcome aboard

[@masqu4]

How much does it cost ? I could not see it in the video

[@GladRags]

@@masqu4 at 21:27 it says 12 yards of concrete for $150/yard so I'm guessing it cost him $1800 not including the labour and delivery costs?

[@HaroldReece]

Thank you, you are providing a valuable service to the public here. Most people have no idea what the real cost of construction is.

[@MigraineCraftsman]

That is one of the many reason I made this channel, this info should be out there.

[@AllAmericanDreamChaser]

This is a perfect empty nester home for my wife and I. Thanks for another fabulous video. Hope you have a wonderful Easter!😀👍👍🐰

[@MigraineCraftsman]

Thx, you guys have a happy easter as well, don't eat too many chocolate bunnies.

[@chrisbensen1672]

That man is an amazing eye baller at getting it level! You have some epic people in your area!!

[@MigraineCraftsman]

The forms help a lot with eyeballing :) but he is very good at what he does.

[@melodycrawford9943]

Yes , looks like a great company for sure ! But a back killer of a job though😞

[@MigraineCraftsman]

@@melodycrawford9943 Oh yeah you definitelly feel your back at the end of the day.

[@JurassicJolts]

It's easier with the thinner concrete IMO

[@terryholmes9134]

He gets the grade in the middle using screed pins. You see them early in the video with colored flagging tied to them.

[@SDMARYLOU]

Always wondered how these skilled jobs get done. Really fascinating!

[@MigraineCraftsman]

:)

[@KeyserSoseRulz]

Honest people doing an honest job. Refreshing.

[@MigraineCraftsman]

:)

[@jl9678]

I just got quoted $10.5 psf. I'm glad you posted this so I can keep shopping around

[@MigraineCraftsman]

Best thing you can do, get couple of qoutes and sometimes you can negotiate. The only thing is when the guys are really busy they wont budge on the price.

[@Tactical-Black]

Keep in mind dont go to cheap as it will show in the final product, I've walked away from many jobs where the client try's to lowball me and they end up paying the price going with the lower bid especially when they know you're going to give them the better and complete job

[@jl9678]

@@Tactical-Black do you mind expounding on this? What does a low quality job look like vs a high quality job? I'm curious and wanting to learn

[@Tactical-Black]

@@jl9678 the low quality would be hard to show but I e seen contractors and finishers so called stretch the concrete out of straight up waste material (throw away) and pass the cost off to the customers, finish concrete is an art

[@Tactical-Black]

@@jl9678 these guys did an excellent job, high quality especially the steps taken to extend the quality and value for all the years to come

[@natefoldan]

Who knew watching cement being poured and polished would be so interesting. Really glad I found this channel.

[@ebonywinn50]

Great video. Hope you feel better. Thanks for these videos. I have 3.98 acres of land that needs clearing one day. Hoping to build my retirement home on the land in the future. These videos help me get an idea of the process

[@MigraineCraftsman]

Now that sounds great 4 acres of land does sound like a nice retirement home spot.

[@youmayberight2434]

What do you plan on doing with the trees cleared out?

[@flames22x]

Strangely enough this is actually soothing to watch....

[@istvanmeissler2238]

Many of your viewers are questioning the strength of the foundation. They are not familiar with the requirements of a foundation in Georgia. The weather is so mild compared to much of the country. It really is a completely different situation. I am from Northern Michigan and most foundations and roof framing allowed in the US would absolutely not pass here. I know you have said it many times until you are blue in the face, so I will take a turn. Every part of the country is different due to different weather and soil and wind, etc. Sometimes amazingly different. That's the reason for local codes and local inspectors. Excellent channel.

[@MigraineCraftsman]

Thank you for that, I will actually cover this in the future video, this is one of those topics in construction that people get really passionate about, but not all are informed how different climates affect construction.

[@NicoleKe]

@@MigraineCraftsman Do you mind sharing this contractors info. I’m looking to build in Georgia.

[@peachesbeaches781]

Hey Mr. MC, ooooo, another video!!!! Yeah us!!!! Thank you!!!!! Going to watch and come back here. THANK YOU SIR!!!!!

[@rockyhart3578]

That finisher knows his shit! Good job

[@MigraineCraftsman]

He's been doing it for a while and is a good human too which matters

[@tonjiwilliams1588]

I am a tiny house enthusiast (!!!), but your homes have just stolen my heart!!! I will EAGERLY follow for more information and to see your next homes of beautiful vision! Your admiration of, and passion for your builds, speak to why they are practical AND gorgeous!!! One of your homes WILL BE PERFECT for retirement - I am speaking it into the Universe!!!

[@justwest871]

Take a chill pill creep

[@markbloyd1224]

I have a 1600 square foot house in central Texas. The foundation was built with plenty of rebar throughout, and pretty good beams in both directions crossing each other. Hasn't prevented the whole thing from cracking all over, and needed foundation work three times. I just finished about a week ago getting it done for the third time. The middle was sinking, so I had to have holes cut into the slab. That's how I now how well the foundation was done. The entire house was off by about 3 inches. Cost over $16500 to level. Just saying, it isn't enough to have a well made foundation, it depends on where it's at too. Texas is notorious for these issues.

[@MigraineCraftsman]

Mark you are correct Sir, I am actually going to go over that information in the next episode. Location and environment plays a HUGE role on what can be done and where.

[@Yazarhet]

What a caos always keep in mind when getting any concrete done make sure to have quality concrete pour mix. anything under 3,500 psi its basic trash. For a house its should at least be 4,000 psi and that's what we do unless foundation plans state something higher. rebar should always be placed on chairs. Grading and leveling are a most be perfect and if piers are on your budget even better. But before starting any foundation plans you have to get a soil test sample and see what foundation is required for that particular land. It will save you so much moving forward. hope your foundation will now be perfect and give you no more problems

[@ms.fortune2957]

I LOVE IT! Thank you so much for sharing the details and pricing. The guys did a great job!

[@polvrvoide4776]

This is what I want to do. You can find land pretty cheap here in colorado. I have a background in landscaping, flooring, concrete, painting, drywall install/finishing. I have friends who do it all and own remodeling companies, concrete companies, framing, flooring, plumbing etc. (huge perk of working construction/labor😂). Getting guys out to help build would be a few phone calls away, buuuuut it’s just a matter of getting the money to do this all😂. I did the math and within the last 4 years of living in my apartment I’ve spent almost 70,000 in rent with nothing to show for it. The rent is higher and high each year because Colorado is getting insanely expensive. This is the ultimate move. Building a small house on a nice piece of land. Too bad I wasn’t smarter when I was younger 😂. All that money spent partying and on rent could have been towards something like this.

[@David7pm]

Thank you. Just stumbled onto your channel. It's so nice to hear the cost. I hope your feeling better, take care.

[@mannyj4751]

This is the Best channel I've ever seen that explains the details of building a new house. We appreciate you taking the time to show everything in detail. God Bless 🙏... stay safe and healthy.

[@MigraineCraftsman]

Thank you for the kind words

[@MrBunaV]

Thank you for making videos like this. Being able to understand the cost and everything broken down step by step. I definitely liked and subscribed to your channel. I am building my home in the future and I need all the DIY lessons I can get.

[@MigraineCraftsman]

Glad I could help, more to come framing, elctrician, plumber, window, siding, cost etc etc

[@hg2.]

Have only seen just the first few minutes, but ... looks great! "My kind o' guy."

[@TheJagjr4450]

About $500 additional to put 1" EPS under the concrete and would give you I think an R value of 5, it does make a difference in heating costs in upstate SC

[@MigraineCraftsman]

Yes, it all depends on the location if there is a benefit of doing it. In construction you really have to watch how you spend your money couple things here and there and before you know it a house that should have cost $100K to build turns into a $200K project and people run out of money and are stuck with an unfinished house. Seen this time after time with people and contractors even, good luck selling a house that is not finished and does not have an certificate of occupancy, that is a headache I don't want.

[@xavind]

Thanks for the video. Currently having my first home being built so I need to be ahead of the developers.

[@migue5955]

You should have at least 100k subs for the amount of information you put out. I enjoy your videos so much, I watch them 2 or 3 times😁

[@mglhora]

You are the guy, straight to the point (cost ) . Thank you very much !

[@MigraineCraftsman]

Thx, I always wanted to know this before I got started doing construction so now I show people the truth what it takes to build a house.

[@dougpopejoy9605]

I really, really appreciate your channel and think you are helping people out in the world. Not sure how you came up with your channel name. Seems to me you help remove a lot of headaches.

[@MigraineCraftsman]

thx for watching, as for the channel name I get migraines a lot hence the name.

[@trejackson3777]

The information you provide is much appreciated! Good luck!

[@MigraineCraftsman]

My pleasure, I'm spilling the construction industry secrets I might pay for that one day when Tony comes and visits me with his friend Louisville slugger.

[@trejackson3777]

@@MigraineCraftsman Before the price went up to $150, what was the average price?

[@MigraineCraftsman]

@@trejackson3777 I used to get it at 108, but everything is going up slowely.

[@laurierevill]

I love your channel and work so much. You have given me the courage to build a small house. Thankyou.

[@MigraineCraftsman]

Great to hear, feel free to ask any questions.

[@lunasarah5555]

So excited!! Can’t wait to see the finish product. 🤗🏡

[@persnicketyu5561]

Thank you so much for sharing this information! My husband and I are getting ready to build in the next 7 months. This helps so much!

[@debrahurtado5491]

This is the kind of video a buyer NEEDS to study!!

[@michaelamick4887]

What is your plan for keeping water run off from the sides & back of home. Slope of ground at edge of house should be 1" per ft for at least 6' to keep the soil from getting saturation in a down pour. Plus you must plan on a shallow ditch at the 6 ft point to redirect water from surrounding properties away from the walls of your home. Much easier to keep water out than try to remove it afterwards. In TN topsoil with grass finish is required by code to be 6" below top of slab for termite control. Even if red clay soil eliminates termite issues, that's a lot more dirt needing to be removed around the home to allow water drainage control. A site plan to address these issues is required by some counties code department before getting the building permits. If not required where you are it is still a good idea to plan on the dozer work cost to get it to meet those specs, otherwise a mud slide against the side of home could ruin all the money you spent. You might get by on adding cinder block retaining walls to keep dirt back from home but still must plan for rain water runoff to protect your investment. Much easier to deal with now than after home is complete.

[@MigraineCraftsman]

Proper grading later on in the project.

[@garialmarsh6721]

Great channel..I like the cost transparency angle

[@MigraineCraftsman]

Thx, seldom seen now a days.

[@50Acres]

I love seeing concrete poured and finished.

[@MigraineCraftsman]

That is where everything starts, :) We gotta finish that cabin of yours and build another structure over there maybe a garage apartment.

[@Loyalwhiteknight]

I wish you were here in Utah because I would love you to build me a smaller home around 1200 sq ft. You do an amazing job from design to finish!

[@MigraineCraftsman]

Thx Utah is a beautifull place, nice area. Watch the channel and you can learn how to be your own contractor and manage the project like I do. Lot of states let you build a house as an OWNER BUILDER, as long as the house is for you to live in. Check in on that for your state.

[@Loyalwhiteknight]

@@MigraineCraftsman I'll have to do that, thanks!

[@Loyalwhiteknight]

@Mark Reeder Yes, he really does a great job of showing us from start to finish and I like how he breaks down the cost of everything.

[@nickjebeles5601]

Thanks for another great upload, looks like your concrete guys did a good job as well. Hope you feel better tomorrow!

[@MigraineCraftsman]

Thx, those guys are good peoples.

[@joshkwd8527]

This is the best video I have seen on this subject matter thanks so much from Australia!

[@xyzaex]

This is the future building your own home

[@sauce8277]

YEA IT IS! 😃

[@anniejohnston7010]

Concrete for our new home is $18,000 for a slab for a 1,600 square foot manufactured home (in upstate NY). It was just poured today.

[@anniejohnston7010]

And required in NY to do a slab or footers. The cost was pretty much the same, but the slab will be nicer, especially when it comes to any future work/maintenance underneath. Our current home is pre 1995 HUD. We bought it new in 1994 and the prep costs were barely anything (we went from a single wide to a double wide). For our new home, the costs are nearing 30k for site work, plus manufactured homes have gone up so much.

[@Johnnie_Jumper]

Here to see how much this would cost me in California for a 350 square foot addition. Things are so expensive out here. Thanks for the good info!

[@jimklemens5018]

About $12K.

[@brockreynolds870]

My house is 750 square feet, and is 1 bedroom 1 bathroom. Open floor plan and 11 foot vaulted ceilings. I have a short wall foundation, and it cost 3,500$ in 1995.

[@zeynepp71]

Brave MEN and great informative video. Get well soon Craftman

[@MigraineCraftsman]

Thx hope you are feeling good yourself Zeyno.

[@mysterybabylonsoontofall3387]

I don’t know why he ran a finishing head first instead of a bull float at first. You guys did a great job though!! Awesome work 😊

[@randyragland9218]

I just had the same size slab poured in southest iowa,but I had to add 4ft footer!cost was $11,000. But I did have a 24x24 garage on in.

[@yovanivega38]

Thanks you so much for your honesty, I've been watching your channel and I like it so far. I got my land on Denver, CO and everything it's so expensive.

[@ForFucksSake57591]

Thumbs up and subscribed immediately after you started talking prices. Thanks so much 🙏🏻 looks like I have lots of your videos to catch up on

[@MigraineCraftsman]

Thx man, and welcome aboard

[@weeder7627]

I'll be following this build, I'm planning on a building just like this in Texas, I want a 30x30 so afew feet bigger.

[@Lemonpopz]

when I saw 22 minute video, I almost skipped on by. Thank you for getting to the point early. Bought yourself a like and subscribe by being a decent human.

[@melodycrawford9943]

Hope you feel better after your rest !! Sorry you feel bad 😞 but appreciate you uploading the video !

[@dadson8524]

I soonest you said the full price I said what a nice guys for people like me and when you finished sayin you always said all the prices I subscribed good stuff man

[@m3rovingian]

Thank you so much for the in depth information! Looking forward to see it all built up.

[@devon6167]

What a hell of a spot with those mountains.

[@jovandertuig1042]

Love the layout of this house! Looks a lot like the plans you drew up for me, can’t wait till the next video. 😊😊

[@MigraineCraftsman]

I'm already planning the next build so wait till you see that weird thing I'm thinking of building.

[@jovandertuig1042]

I’m sure I’ll love it! 😊😊

[@MigraineCraftsman]

@@jovandertuig1042 lol i'm not so sure. I have been toying with the idea to build another small house I just have to find land that allows it.

[@jovandertuig1042]

I love small houses! If we ever get ours going I’ll show you the progress if you’d like 😊

[@MigraineCraftsman]

@@jovandertuig1042 I would love that

[@zrahman07]

Hey MC, another awesome video. I really enjoyed the polishing at the end...very relaxing for some strange reason. stunning scenery too, my gosh. Hope you're feeling better, brother 👍

[@MigraineCraftsman]

Thx Zee, I live in paradise here I love it.

[@dh66]

I don't get the timing of the polish and why they bothered with the manual I've when they have a machine... How soon can you walk on it and polish?

[@donnamurphy5698]

I love your financial breakdown.

[@peggypatton9170]

I live in Minnesota we use alot fiber mesh in concrete that some real strong stuff it's 10 dollar extra on every hard but it's well worth it.

[@MigraineCraftsman]

Different world over there up north :) you guys also need insulated footers because of the cold (frost line)

[@david39t80]

I read a penn state experiment where the researchers were out to solve the problem that poor people have when trying to build a house. Municipalities all have construction standards, one of which requires work that only contractors can do and at great cost.. which is get the footers below Frontline to protect the house from frost heave. Foundations in the north are prohibitively expensive and lock out all but 2-income families from building. The researchers found that foundation costs in the north can be cut to 1/3 the cost by employing a slight amount of heating under the house so that the ground never freezes in winter at the footers.. thus no heave. The amount of heat was basically 5 lightbulbs and only failed during a hundred year prolonged freeze event.. at which point the structure needed interior drywall seam pasting to be whole again. In my area land to build on is scarce it's 80k an acre then 400k to build a 1200sf house using contractors. The poor need these regulations to keep up with technology.

[@pureluxuryla]

you gave the pricing up front i like that

[@dennyoviedo4102]

Thanks brother. Almighty bless for the good info .

[@samv2783]

Very informative. Thanks for the video.

[@n.s.5001]

Oh yay, another upload! Always lovely to see your videos! Hope you are feeling well 🧡

[@redrover8635]

Love watching your videos very detailed keep them coming.

[@MigraineCraftsman]

Not feeling well going to sleep, I'll answer your comments tommorow.

[@Itsmekimmyjo]

Migraine Craftsman feel better!!

[@susananderson1071]

Hope you feel better tomorrow.

[@kendrickdelosreyes5381]

Migraines could be caused by high blood pressure. Maybe try cutting back on sodium?

[@marshacast6636]

Hope you're feeling better, sir.

[@MigraineCraftsman]

@@kendrickdelosreyes5381 Thx, I avoid sodium when I can, it's random for me, even when it rains I get headaches and migraines.

[@trulythrivinglives]

Thank you for sharing all this video and pricing info! I subscribed right away and look forward to watching all your other videos!

[@jarjar0653]

Hello. Love this channel. Where are you now? Stopped building because prices are so crazy now? Hoping you continue your work

[@carolinamoncada7474]

excellent video,with all info and Honest Details, Love it, thank you

[@HumbleGolds]

Love it. Looking to build tiny 500sqft 2 bed 1b in Clewiston fl soon

[@gavinlimshung2847]

They missed a step After a pour you’re meant vibrate the cement to remove any air bubble because air bubble can cause cracks or affect the structural integrity of the slab eventually causing a slab heave

[@sauce8277]

🤭😅😅

[@danielsharkoff4013]

Just subbed.. love the name of the channel and the content is pretty freakin valuable.

[@JohnSmith-bq1sj]

They might be done fast, and it looks easy how they're doing it, but that's a hard physical work!

[@MigraineCraftsman]

And there is a grandson of the main guy helping out since hes out of school. Make a couple bucks helping grandpa build a house and learn how it all comes together win, win.

[@robertl.3074]

Great work thank you for all of the information.

[@sauce8277]

THIS IS PERFECT. Thank you SO MUCH!!! NC and GA??? Where have you been?! 😃😃

[@throbstudios]

Thanks for this. It’s very helpful in my planning

[@MigraineCraftsman]

Glad to be of help

[@jabbastylz11]

this video was so satisfying to watch

[@jeetendrakumar1596]

This is where I need to my kind of work

[@roberts.1604]

Between whoever was adding water at the mixer and that ground barrier bet that was a good long paint-dry situation hah. Also echoing others, shout out to that one man army that’s wielding the 12-14’ screed like it’s nothing never seen anything quite like that lol very impressive.

[@AnxiousAuntie]

There is something so satisfying in watching concrete pour lol

[@partake305]

Man your channel is always great. Thanks again!!

[@MigraineCraftsman]

Thank you for the kind words

[@innovativeconcretesolution3522]

Interesting process. Great video!

[@johndoe3328]

That dude knows how to pull a fuckin' straightedge. Excellent.

[@mashoutman]

So hard to find a foundation contractor!!! Just looking for a decent contractor to build a block crawlspace. Every builder I spoke to stopped responding once they realized all I needed them to do was a crawlspace. They are too greedy to concern themselves with my small project.

[@MigraineCraftsman]

That is construction now a days, everyone wants big projects for big $$$ Keep looking you are bound to find someone, go to your local chambers of commerce you might get a lead from there.

[@mashoutman]

@@MigraineCraftsman Good idea. Thanks.

[@naomibryant3172]

They won't even talk to me

[@mashoutman]

@@naomibryant3172 it's tough. Especially now.

[@naomibryant3172]

@@mashoutman I'm a senior and a widow all I wanted a one bedroom house on my property and all I get is big $$$$$

[@walkingfaith5842]

I stumbled on this video and I love it...the videos are full videos and informative narrative is amazing...I am truly thankful because I am building my own home and this videos really helps also with the prices...thank you a TON and God bless you man...👍🏽🙌🏽

[@MikeDayConcrete]

6.50 per sf is really similar to what I charge for a slab like that in Maine.

[@MigraineCraftsman]

I'm glad to see there are still reasnoable people like your self out there. /cheers

[@swing_king-x3212]

I throw commercial jobs and plenty of houses like those, respect the hustle

[@10tenman10]

From the looks of things there is only rebar at the sides of the slabs.

[@MigraineCraftsman]

Correct, up to our local code that is all that is necessary.

[@ugmogaming9083]

Hello, I live in Hawaii. Do you have a PDF of the layout of this house? I really like how you covered the Pex with PVC. I would like to reproduce this house in Hawaii.

[@seanallison8850]

Thank you so much for your videos brother. I just subscribed 👍👏

[@billoneil2719]

That was very satisfying to watch

[@Randomadventurelife]

It seems like there were no J bolts installed for the was floor sill plate? How is your wall secured to the slab?

[@Tiamac2k23]

Why did you put the rebar under the moisture barrier, it doesn't seem like it would do much good for reinforcing the concrete without it being inside the concrete?

[@Randomadventurelife]

You are right. They also forgot j bolts for wall floor sill

[@omartos7841]

2000sq ft slab on grade got 33 yards 4950/plus hired some concrete guys 4 of them 4500 total 9250/total plus i prep it my self with father in law

[@PaulDGreen-bu4iz]

Nice work! Thank you for sharing!

[@Antoniofitness1]

Amazing info bro keep up the good work

[@MigraineCraftsman]

thx

[@luketanner5723]

Love the videos im learning so much from them I want to build a house in cherry log Georgia i have .50 an acre could i build 500sq ft house on Concrete piers?

[@MigraineCraftsman]

Sure, I like concrete piers and 500 square feet would be perfect for that. You save money too by going piers.

[@luketanner5723]

@@MigraineCraftsman Thankyou

[@kjjk538]

Luke Tanner Does Cherry Log have any restrictions on a house that small? I’m looking for land now for a small home in Georgia.

[@Sobreiroboots]

Great video thanks for sharing 🙏🏻

[@MigraineCraftsman]

Thank you for watching

[@squeekhobby4571]

Great job

[@johnward7970]

as an former readi mix driver you poured a 4 1/2 inch slump. With no rebar or did you add firber mesh to it?