Grow tent comparison Vivosun AC Infinity Gorilla

[@DaPackRat]

ACi has been my go to and it hasnt let me down yet! Cant wait to hear your findings on each brand!

[@Chrisclough-eu2cd]

Just bought a ac infinity 5x5 my self pin holes on every stiching all round the edges round every ven point fully disappointed and do not recommend

[@DaPackRat]

​@@Chrisclough-eu2cd thats a real bummer Id be really upset if there were pinholes in my new unit the 2x4 and 2in1 both only have a small leak where the zippers come together. Id reach out to them I had a fan fail and they got me a new one faster than they sent the first one.

[@Chrisclough-eu2cd]

I was to be fair I contacted the place where I ordered it and that was just making excuses so I messaged them directly and they replied with in 5 minutes and could not apologize enough asked for the code off it and where I got it and they dispatched one straight away fingers crossed this one's all good and I'm shocked how good there customer service is

[@manzanasrojas6984]

@@Chrisclough-eu2cd AC Infinity has the best customer service, hands down. Same with SanLight if you're in the EU, but thats not complete sets and more so lights.

[@hazardouschurch1]

Can you please use them for a year and test for light leakage again. I found that vivosun had massive light leaks after a year. The zipper was also starting to fail. I run negative pressure to keep the smells in. The extra bars you can get to help the tent, not crush or get taller, are quite useful.

[@carlaswalker6973]

My Vivosun has massive light leaks out of the box.

[@infor-qx2zl]

If they can even last a year. 4' x 8' 1' foam insulation is $20, and couple door hinges washers and bolts kits $15, and some magnets to hold the doors closedr $5 and some super glue: $4-$8. Silicone caulk for the edges: $9. And you'd have your own diy grow shed

[@gorillagrowtent]

Hey Migro, try the hang test, the flood pool test, and a light leak test for real world results. Pole thickness and diameter is only a part of the story. Cheap welding and poor design will cause a tent to collapse under minimal weight. Our Gorilla tents get knocked for the price, but it simply costs more to build products that are taller and tougher.

[@brasco8721]

👏👏

[@timpage5021]

100% Not to mention that Gorilla tents walls zips completely down. That’s critically important for older , disabled people who can’t crawl under a scrog or reach over the canopy to tend to plants and water. That’s a huge feature that other tents just don’t offer. It’s nice to have total access to the entire space unobstructed. Then there is the height adjustment. Everyone knows heat rises , having that extra foot or even 2 will help mitigate heat especially when growing in the summer. #GrowStrong

[@johannjohann6523]

As the saying goes: "You get what you pay for". And given the fact I doubt most indoor growers are "Not" going to be satisfied with only 2-3 grow cycles, long term reliability (performance) and ruggedness are very important indeed. I can see the reflective inner wall material to be of the greatest concern once the grow light is reflecting off of them many weeks, months etc. and not having them crumble then fall off of the walls to the floor. Now what do you do when it happens half way through a grow cycle and jeopardizes your current crop. Oh no! I'm already leaning toward the Gorilla brand. But further information is needed. And I hope the few complainers about customer service are just whiners (and idiots) anyway lacking the necessary social skills to hold an intelligent "adult" conversation. And finding people who value and see the importance to work and not sit on their butt doing nothing all day. take care.

[@bullionbouncer5080]

Been using gorilla since day 1, I have a cheapo vivosun and the ac infinity 5x5 and neither compare in quality, ac and vivo both have light leaks at the zippers, the stitching on their tool pockets also have light leaks, ypu get what you pay for with gorilla, I had there 1st Gen 4x4 and 5x5 and they stood the test of time, can't say that for any of these other tents

[@bullionbouncer5080]

​@johannjohann6523 I had gorilla's 1st Gen 4x4, bought in 2012 and the mylar lining has just now started to deteriorate, the zippers have held up great, the velcro has lasted and the tent has stood the test of times, from below freezing temps to 110° degrees in the summer, it's held up and I've finally bought a new 5×9 from them, I have a vivosun 4x4 and an ACI 5x5 and the quality doesn't even come close, most that say they are over priced have never seen one in person or taken a chance and bought one. The competition just isn't there with quality.

[@nkognegrow]

I sigh every time I have to open the gorilla tent. Way to many zippers but it is the only one that has the one inch extensions.

[@drodriguez3935]

Being a grower, that’s starting to get up there an age I do like the gorilla because I can add attachments that’ll give me more headroom so that I can insert a small table to lift the plants off the ground. This way I’m not on my knees or bent down. So for me, it’s gorilla 🦍

[@Just___me_]

I know what you mean. I'm getting up there too. You could always put the whole tent on a table or bench.

[@drodriguez3935]

@@Just___me_ at 6’2” 270 god bless those tables legs I’ve been doing this so long ( many trails n errors)I know how much hard work goes into this I need belly button level an full 360• access with hydroponics it can get down right silly fast… fat boy on his knees equals no bueno 😂

[@nk-dw2hm]

@@drodriguez3935 I don't think it's what he meant, but I loving the image of a 5x5 tent on 2 rickety plastic tables and you crawling through the tent while trimming while everything wobbles

[@drodriguez3935]

@@nk-dw2hm lol I stopped buying anything plastic in the seventh grade 🇺🇸😂 yeah, that could be a real cat in the hat situation

[@deritxmini]

Thanks for this mate, really helped me narrow down what I wanted for my first grow setup.

[@MrJoecool9999]

My 4x4 is in a restricted space so I can only access two sides - I was having a lot of trouble pruning and was breaking parts of the plants trying to reach over them - SO I came up with a turntable - made from a single 8x4 sheet of ply cut in half - had to trim the bottom a little to fit within the frame - likewise the top half and had to cut it a little smaller and trim off the corners so it would turn within the 4ft width without catching the mylar - I have a Lazy Suzan bearing in the centre between the two sheets and 16 low profile castors spread under the top half to take the weight - I can stand on it if I have to and it takes my 11 stone NB - I grow 4 plants in it and for me it works a treat...! Thanks for the review Shane - as always very informative...!

[@GratefulEd907]

Putting it on wheels would be a good cheap option too

[@deleqtronica8733]

@@MrJoecool9999 this is a great idea, my 4x4 is in the same predicament, this is something I'm probably going to make to make as well.

[@Loooooooooooooooool]

I thought about doing something similar, only downside is that you cant use a trellis and are stuck hand watering.

[@danis8455]

Thanks Shane!!! for putting the best data possible out there!!

[@ohmimprovement5767]

Im glad you have confidence in that tiny inner flap for the zippers. They dont stay in place and light will leak. My tent without an external flap, i can walk in my lungroom with the lights on in the tent and see the light from outside. They dont stay in place, and i guarentee light leak after a few grows. Light leak is my #1 concern and for me if theres no external zipper flap its a failed design.

[@JamesS.254]

I've noticed on my new AC Infinity 5x5 that the zippers on the side windows/doors do NOT have a flap and I notices there is a 1" wide spot were the zipper doesn't want to connect and there is quite a bit of light that comes through which is a huge bummer on a brand new tent. And I've noticed a light leak where the two zippers meet up, but it's small so I park the zippers where the gap in my zipper is so it keeps the leak small. Guess I'll just have to tape over it every time I have to open the side. My Gorilla 5x5 shorty has a few very tiny pinholes, but the zippers are well covered and I haven't noticed any light leaking from them at all. That being said, I think flaps on all zippers is a must.

[@JamesS.254]

One other thing I've noticed between the two tent's I have is the placement of the larger ventilation outlets. The Gorilla tent has the opening's closer to the rear, as to where the AC Infinity has them placed right in the middle. I personally like having them all the way to the back like in the Gorilla tent for running my fan and filter from the inside as it keeps it out and away from the light. It's a little annoying that the AC infinity tent is either going to force me to lose almost a foot of overhead space if I run internal, or I will most likely have to run the ventilation external to get the maximum headspace. The reason I went with the AC Infinity tent was because it just fits within my ceiling in my basement so I get the max height. The Gorilla shorty with it's 9" extensions leaves almost a foot of headroom to be had, but If I order the 2 foot extension kit then its about 3" too tall, which is a bummer unless I cut the pipes and let it sag a bit. I've contacted Gorilla to see if I could buy an additional 9" extension, but they don't offer it for sale which Sucks.

[@cet9538]

you can go to the fabric store and get block out material. it is cheap. size it to the width and length of the tent. you can attach many ways. this will help block out any leaks and give more use out of the tent.

[@teamflashtv]

Great stuff man. Would love to see similarly trustworthy testing of pH meters, fans, nutrients, whatever else outside lighting.

[@MyJman37]

Another reason the Ac infinity tent had a lower reading is because of the 3rd vent on the backside of the tent. It causes a skewed reading with a par meter as it causes the light to not reflect in that particular area and looking at the par maps you made it clearly shows this and believe that's what caused the slightly lower readings. I'm not gonna claim to have the sophisticated equipment you have such as the macro lens etc but from my own experience this is the cause of its light loss shown. Also the light which hits canopy level its what's most important I would assume? not the light which hits all the way on the floor?

[@tthtonekid]

Oh good call.

[@donwon7951]

Agreed

[@MyJman37]

I would bet that if he was to check the measurements above the vents they would all be very similar with there par maps. Also I have read somewhere that it's not great to have any light reflecting up off the floor hitting the underside of the leaves anyway? Im pretty sure that in nature the ground is not reflective. So I would be interested to see this test re-run up above the vents around the average canopy level to get more accurate results.

[@jardiniere3546]

I mean, the video is labeled as paid promotion. This was clearly paid for by Vivosun, lol. Disappointed with Shane on this one

[@MIGROLIGHT]

Hi, good feedback thanks. I have tested again with the test area above the vents. AC infinity still relatively worse. New video out soon

[@RocketNothing]

I miss when Migro used to call out these Chinese hack companies, rather than work for them.

[@jardiniere3546]

100% this has paid Vivosun ad alllll over it

[@plethos]

He joined the "dark side" 😉

[@SpacedOutCluez]

Money bought him out but hey migro always been a bitch

[@Ze0th]

@@jardiniere3546 Let's see the real time footage of the light tests. He's done it before in past videos. I want to believe him but -13% drop in PAR is sus...

[@chilbertuk1960]

great review thanks shane... always making a huge contribution to the homegrower .. much appreciation! the only thing that might justify the higher pricing of tents could be their longevity / wear n tear / lasts twice as long as other tents... do you think the pricier tents will last sufficiently longer? how quickly light leaks start to appear after frequent use .. good job shane thanks again

[@MIGROLIGHT]

if the materials, stitching, corner reinforcement and zips are good they should last irrespective of the price

[@timpage5021]

Gorilla is worth every penny. Had mine for years and one of the best investments I made for my grow after having a Vivosun weld snsp and Mars zippers fail . A grow tent like a light isvt something one should cheap out on. Coming from experience it’s worth it to have the added protections like better zippers, superior welds, powder coating, thicker canvas, access to the plavts themselves is something that should be mentioned as well and the additional height adjustments come in clutch to dial in environmental conditions as heat rises. But yea Gorilla tents are worth every penny and that’s coming from someone on disability who don’t have much to begin with . All the more reason to buy once and not be worried my garden is gonna get smashed by equipment falling when welds fail.

[@denniskartes1302]

Bought my first gorilla tent last year. The zipper on the front door broke within 6 months. Although,it did make me feel better when I bought my new ac infinity 10x10 for half the price this year.

[@Userx4566]

I'm choking by ac infinity tent I love their Fans but not their box so much expensive

[@melangkoh4184]

dear Shane, i also experienced some mysterious light losses when measuring in my grow tent. The answer were the airintake-meshes at the sides. even when you close them from the outside, the filter mesh inside kills almost all reflection. You have to cover the intakes with reflective material from the inside, or you have to measure not on the floor, but in 30-40cm height. its more realistic anyway, because the pots are 25-30 cm high usually. It made about 15% difference in my case.

[@MIGROLIGHT]

Hi good point. I will consider measuring the PAR intensity 50cm above the floor level

[@melangkoh4184]

yeah maybe you should do that..youre making the tent look much worse than it is..dont you see how sad it is....:)..@@MIGROLIGHT

[@CANNABISfreedomNOtaxes]

​@@melangkoh4184good point. Nobody needs to know the reflective properties on the floor of the tent. The colas are going to be at least 24" off the floor anyway.

[@jeroid123]

he already retested it and ac infinity is still worse, stop being a fanboy companies dont care about you@@melangkoh4184

[@jamesnewman6920]

Thank you for the valuable information! Keep those videos coming!! ✌️

[@Elev8ted.0ne]

Which brand is the thickest though? To me that's the most important thing out of everything. I've used VivoSun since I started growing, but once I seen a new AC Infinity in person I immediately felt that it was much thicker. It might be just because I have older tents and not the new models, but that should have been addressed because to me that's the most important factor over everything else. That and the zipper.

[@timpage5021]

Gorilla .it’s not even close.

[@MIGROLIGHT]

New Vivosun and AC infinity are the thickest material, Gorilla third

[@Elev8ted.0ne]

Yeah I actually looked up the thickness on their websites and was surprised to see that. Honestly at this point there's literally no beating Vivosun

[@lilbear19601]

I’ve only used a Gorilla and same one since 09. But I’m rough and it’s been through both indoor and greenhouse use, and some of the stitching come out in cleaning. So I took a bedroom and am building a grow room with pretty much everything except CO2. And another in garage.

[@brasco8721]

They can claim that ACI and Vivosun are thicker. But if you actually feel the material there is no comparison. Gorilla is industrial strength compared to the others. This is a paid vivosun ad.

[@fadedmass1662]

I'm on my ninth grow with a 4x8' Quictent. There's a few pin holes we're the door folds. The inner flaps on the zipper are all tore up from the zipper. Being in a dark basement this isn't an issue. The overall build seems really good. Better than my other two tents. Overall I'm very happy with its performance. My 2x4' vivosun tent is my worst tent. The mylar material is separating in the floor after just 3 seedling runs. I'm assuming the walls are next. The six inch vent holes are just that. Exactly six inches and very hard to feed a vent into. It drives me crazy

[@rmcnasty7319]

6 foot is not enough room. Unless your growing clones or autoflower. Take away 1 ft for container & 1 foot for filter & fan blower & 2 foot for Light . There is not a lot of room left.

[@Willie-C]

6 foot is more than enough not everyone needs to grow 6 foot plants . I scrog and I don't even get close to top.

[@NoemadZ.]

It's both strain dependent and the time that you send your plants into flower. EDIT: Different for autos though. Autos must be trained.

[@chadh6855]

@@Willie-C the top would be your grow lights, which would be at least a ft lower than the tent if you put the filter/fan inside as recommended. And the bottom would be the top of your pot, not the actual floor. So take away 2 ft from the tent and you can grow a 4 ft plant. Now, do you want your plant just an inch below the lights? No. So you're limited to a 3 - 3.5 ft plant, unless you put the fan/filter outside or you use a taller tent like Gorilla. That was his point.

[@tthtonekid]

​@chadh6855 if you train your plants you don't need to worry about the height restriction?

[@chadh6855]

@@tthtonekid I think most people who grow bigger photoperiod plants get a bigger 4x4 or 5x5 tent, put the 6" or 8" fan/filter in the corner, and get large bar style lights that they mount close to the roof. But a small 4x2 with only 6 ft headroom will limit you if you want bigger plants.

[@randylayhee3018]

Definitely want to see all brands of tents compared now, all I wanted in a tent before I saw this video was a good zipper but it makes sense that there are different levels of quality in more than just the zipper

[@Eric-dz1we]

Thanks, Shane. I perched 2 Yuxian 4x4 grow tent $75 nice tent for the $$ one for drying I'm in a 6x7x8 flower grow room & a 4x6 veg room. I don't know if I could get used to growing in a tent, not much room.

[@wingingit9493]

I use Gorillas. Have a 2 x 4 and 3 x 3 both with 1' extension. Getting ready to order a Gorilla 4 x 4 and use the 1' extension. The one vent on the back is more than enough with my tents setup 3" or so away from the wall and the exhaust 8" exhaust fans don't suck the walls of the tent in. All exhaust fans I've tested are all horridly over rated concerning cfm. By the time you had any flex or hard hose to them and a carbon filter you will be lucky to get half the cfm out of them they are rated for,,,, if that. I like the Gorilla door setup. If I need to work inside of the tent I open them both up and have full access. Yeah it's more zippers and you can get a small light leak here and there but it's not a issue at all. People blow light leaks way way out of proportion. Enjoy you grow!

[@ronin7261]

Gorilla fanboys out here simping in the comments to justify spending x5 the price on an inferior & outdated product 🤣

[@chadh6855]

I’m pretty sure all the tents in the video except the Gorilla one are made in the same factory. Mars Hydro and Spider Farmer same factory too. They just get the choice of ABS or SBS zipper, 16/19/22mm poles, and 600D/1680D/2000D canvas. Sun hut and Budbox would be a different manufacturers like Gorilla. The one the majority of these popular companies use does seem to give the most bang for your buck, probably because they're made in China and Gorilla made in California. It has nothing to do with dated designs or materials. It's just a tent.

[@618grow]

Inferior in what way? Not a fan boy just stating facts...when will the other brands follow suit with the extension poles?

[@timturk1899]

Tent Density was the best feature for Gorilla Tents, at 1680D, while others were 600D. Eventually, Mars Hydro became 1680D(and apparently Spider Farmer too). Vivosun were always 600D. Then AC Infinity came out with 2200D. Vivosun has upped their game, finally, but not any on Amazon yet. They were still 600D, as of last night (but I did see something about "New Model 2200.."), so maybe the new Vivosun has a 2200D density..?! I'm surprised Shane didn't mention the "D" of any tents, especially Vivosun, as I believe that's why they sent it to Shane..?! It's been the lightest material, at 600D, and I think they're trying to let people know about the "New 2200D" density. Maybe Vivosun focused their energy on the reflectivity of the new tents coming out, over the higher "D" density, when speaking with Shane. Considering this is a Grow light channel and Shane has always tested canopy penetration (I believe the first one to do these tests..?!), it makes sense they'd focus on this feature.👍💯✌️

[@CANNABISfreedomNOtaxes]

​@@618growmost people using these need to fit them in a room with an 8' ceiling. So 84" is about as tall as you need. And these little baby sized 2x4 tents don't need to be 8 feet tall.

[@CANNABISfreedomNOtaxes]

​@618grow but for larger tents like 10' x 10' or larger, yes those extensions they offer are pretty sweet!

[@whoisthatguy420]

It would be very interesting to see a comparison to a HomeBox tent or other similiar tents with white walls, I'd love to see if i made a mistake when i bought my tent :)

[@benjammin1212]

I've got a Gorilla 5x5 with the height extension , after only a couple of month's the zip started separating from the tent at the top and bottom, the height extension is unbelievably handy being I'm 6ft 8", I can actually stand up without issue.

[@bricktop3784]

nice to see mars v secert jadin v bud box as we can get these in uk shane

[@petergill4744]

Bud box don't do mylar tents

[@cockeyedTV]

Mars and ac are basically the same. Bud box is worst company I've come across, there tents are useless, leak light, single skinned really thin material that melted near a normal house bulb. They refused to even acknowledge there might be am issue. If you go secret jardin get the updated version as the older ones smell a bit plasticy and have awful poles and connectors.

[@frankb5728]

Interesting to see the PAR results for the AC Infinity. I have a Vivosun 4x2 I bought years ago and while it's decent the AC Infinity's build quality is a lot better and worth the cost difference, which wasn't too much when I was shopping for an extra 2x2 tent for my 3d printer. I don't know if the AC Infinity premium is worth it for every product, I'm happy with their exhaust fan, performance and electronics are solid. I know they have cheaper options which probably aren't worth the money. Seeing the PAR performance is making me rethink my opinion here. if the production model of the new Vivosun is as good as the pre-prod version then I wouldn't have any issue recommending a Vivosun.

[@whit_wolf1367]

I have been using a vivosun both new and old the new is definitely better quailty and seems more strudy love both of them

[@severedsixteen]

@@whit_wolf1367 where did you buy from? thanks

[@whit_wolf1367]

Both from amazon, I had purchased a 2nd tent about 6 months after i first purchased one just happen to be the new version could tell the zipper seals were redone alot thicker and has slots on the side of it for the new vivosun controller my old one didn't have these over all seems like thicker material as well. @@severedsixteen

[@meefvongrau9814]

I used to grow indoor way back in the day, maybe around 2007? Back then, I used a 400W sodium vapor lamp and some more ancient technology, the point I want to make is that those setups were loud and smelly. Can a tent with modern tech be placed in the room where you sleep? How is noise and smell?

[@MIGROLIGHT]

It can be noisy at night with a fan. However you could locate the fan outside the room and suck from the tent with sealed ducting

[@danielhjelt9989]

I have used a tent in the same room l sleep it is okay if you have an ac infinity inline fan beacuse it's pretty quiet, but you can purchase ear plugs to lessen the noise even more.but you get used to the noise.but l would recommend ear plugs if you really want to minimize the noise and I also use insulated ducting Wich also helps with the noise and l also have a noise reduction clamp from ac infinity.l had no problems.if you use every tip l gave l think it will help a lot.l had no trouble sleeping, maybe in the very beginning but I don't remember, but you get use to the sound Wich won't be that high especially when using all my tips including ear plugs.best of luck♥️🙏

[@danielhjelt9989]

@@meefvongrau9814 yes you can deffenetly grow in your bedroom if a little bit of noise doesn't bother you.read my comment above

[@mauricedavis2905]

Wow vivosun is going for ac infinity 😮 I have their inline fan and controller. It works great and has had wifi for a while. I am going to buy a 5x4 here really soon. I know what I am buying.

[@plethos]

They're both made in the same Chinese factory it's just a matter of what upgrades you get. It's nice to see Vivo starting a higher spec line because AC bills the upgrades as premium and charges too much.

[@brasco8721]

This was clearly a paid advertisement for Vivosun. I've used all 3 brands of tents and there is no comparison. Gorilla has way tougher material, if you are trying to claim you couldn't feel the difference that is BS. The Gorilla door style also allows for a full 360 degree access which is almost a necessity for a good scrog in the larger tents 5x5+. Now the icing on the cake for why the gorilla is the best is because it literally can go to 8 or 10 feet depending on your ceiling height. That alone decimates every aspect of the other tents. A couple of percent difference in light reflection is irrelevant, especially if you have a powerful expensive light.

[@jardiniere3546]

100% a paid ad for Vivosun, which is why he has the "newest model" that isn't even released yet & doesn't even have a price. This was shameless.

[@Sache0190]

@@jardiniere3546you mean Shaneless

[@timturk1899]

I was quite surprised myself. No mention of Density in terms used for tents..?! Big, big difference between 600D(the Vivosun I, and many others have. No "D" info given on the new one..?!), compared to my Gorilla Tent at 1680D, and AC Infinity's 2200D. The denser tents hold temperature and humidity much better, along with smells. This is a lighting channel, so I understand testing reflectivity. I think the "strength and durability" come first for most using a tent. Mars Hydro has had a great priced 1680D Tent for awhile now (like Gorilla), and it would be nice to know about their reflectivity, etc..?!👍💯✌️

[@jokimaguire5045]

zips are crap anaw

[@561_devin]

Isn't the gorilla the only one that offers infrared protection? For people that are worried about helicopters 😂

[@DavidoffPower]

Shane always looked blazed adds extra flavour to the videos.

[@UbiquitousRomp]

I hang at 12 - 14 inches above my canopy. how am i losing 13% of yield. when I'm giving them max PPFD according to light meter.... and the flowers are stopping the light from hitting the floor....?

[@RammaJamma3]

Does extra 1’ hurt gorilla? Just cause noticed smaller tent tested higher. Second is all these tents new? Reason asking were Vivosun said the material degrade’s over time. Third wish u would do pat test and spectrum test on AC infinity evo bar light no one that test has tested one of their lights like that. Some have unboxed turn one on and tells what the light has and that’s it. Great review. I like see all tents tested to see if there is even better tent out there

[@ArmchairRamb0]

Thanks, this has been helpful. The more I learn, the more I realize how much I need to learn.

[@MIGROLIGHT]

Very welcome!

[@chadh6855]

"New" Vivosun tent with "TBC" price... so they sent this guy a preproduction model (with thicker poles and better mylar) to review and he's saying it's better than existing models out there. I don't think he makes that very clear in this video.

[@jardiniere3546]

Vivosun clearly paid for this video, LOL. I get Shane put the "paid promotion" tag in the video as he is required by law, but he should've made it more clear in the video that this was a paid ad for Vivosun. Disappointed to say the least. It only shows Vivosun is getting desperate since mostly everyone rocks with AC Infinity nowadays.

[@chadh6855]

@@jardiniere3546 I’m pretty sure all the tents in the video except the Gorilla one are made in the same factory. Mars Hydro and Spider Farmer same factory too. They just get the choice of ABS or SBS zipper, 16/19/22mm poles, and 600D/1680D/2000D canvas.

[@nomenclator4339]

@@jardiniere3546 none of the vivo sun products I own are of quality. "designed in california, made in china" but the quality is cheap af. Couldn't care less where it's designed

[@deleqtronica8733]

​@chadh6855 I'm 100% certain this is the case. I bought a no-name tent and there were sections of recycled mylar with the MarsHydro logo.

[@tobyhosker1787]

Wheees the bud box pros at ? There brillaint tents

[@Eric-dz1we]

Thank you Shane, this review made me think of your walls in testing lights and if there is a difference in the readings.

[@Thesimplelife416]

Where did you get this new vivo sun tent? The only ones on their site have the square windows and 600d canvas. I have the vivo and gorilla, and I just bought my vivo(I couldn't find your model anywhere). The version I have is thinner than the gorilla but still thick enough. I like it more than my gorilla because it has no lignt leaks. Gorilla has high-grade materials, but their design isn't well thought out. Why do the flaps only cover the front of the tent zippers and not all the way around? The fact that they never upgraded their design just shows how complacent gorilla has become. Choose the vivo but I wish I was able to get the model you have😂

[@deleqtronica8733]

It's called the Pro

[@Thesimplelife416]

@deleqtronica8733 yah I know but at the time he made the review they weren't even available on the site until months after. I ended up buying a tent thinking it was the same one because that was the only tent style they sold at the time and it wasn't.

[@deleqtronica8733]

@Thesimplelife416 sorry I didn't try to sound like a smartass or anything, I didn't realize it wasn't even released during this video.

[@deleqtronica8733]

@Thesimplelife416 my bad didn't realize the Pro was such a new release and that it wasn't out yet during this video

[@bearfamilycanna]

I hope this video starts a larger conversation about the (lack of) quality in grow tents. They all leak light through the zippers or pinholes made during manufacturing. Haven't been happy with my tents at all. Gorilla- too many zippers, frayed fabric, can't move around due to height, too expensive. AC infinity- quality has improved in some areas, declined in others- zipper broke on my 5x5, was sent a warranty replacement, velcro on warranty replacement won't hold the door open, 2x4 that I'm barely in looks like the zipper is about to fail just like the 5x5 did, price increases.

[@plethos]

Since this is a sponsored video that is unlikely.

[@srhankins68]

My Gorilla tent zipper blew put before end of first grow.

[@sofakingphat8087]

Is there a type of paint that someone could paint the inside of their grow tent for higher reflectivity? Just curious if anyone has experimented with it.

[@tone-Loc420]

It really depends on what you’re needs are. 5x5 tent or bigger I’ll go with the gorilla especially if you have the height to extend higher. Charcoal filters and line blowers/lights/dehumidifier can add up in weight. But if you’re grow is 2 x 4 or smaller with just a light maybe a small blower and fan and growing peppers or something like that on the floor then the cheaper tent will do just fine

[@HoRRiiBLe1313]

Wow. I figured they’d all be very similar in performance but showed me wrong. 13% is wild. And I always feel like your analysis is correct as you use the scientific method and put effort into your study. Love it.

[@WildBill496]

I love my Gorilla Grow Tent

[@trueblu8]

That's the old Gorilla tent. Can you do a review with the new one? And also the AC Infinity cloud lab?

[@kangaroo4208]

do you have a mars hydro tent? i have two. they work really good. would love to see how they hold up with the coemption.

[@Санчес-я1т]

Will there be Mars-Hydro in the second part?

[@speedbag67]

As usual... EXCELLENT review... Verified data and zero prejudice.. No meandering babble or wistful opinions... You call it as you see it, with facts to back it up. I consider you to be THE authority on grow equipment.. Bravo!

[@MIGROLIGHT]

Much appreciated!

[@Topsrite]

They are all fairly cheap in terms of materials. That said intuitive features are more important. Including universal light mounting accommodations, vents in the right locations, floor protectors, clean ability, accessible panel openings, etc. Grow labs used to have a decent quality tent.

[@Gillnxtdoor]

Can you do a review on fohse

[@lincsfencingandgardeningse9128]

Really interesting findings .I baught the ac infinity fan kit and the quality of the fans build wasn't as good as the ram extractor fan I use

[@dannyarmata8878]

I've been using vivosun tents for 8 years, i love em, best value out there

[@djenk12345]

Again a fantastically interesting video. Would like to see a test of Homebox ambient, I know they are white inside and not with mylar, but they should be almost as good and not give as much heat in the tent as if you use mylar or the silver material they use.

[@scottinsierras2945]

I think you would be the best judge of quality and function. If you wanted a mother’s veg tent, which one would you choose if you wanted larger usable space tent for convenience!!! Thanks very detailed show.

[@Hudsonrulez]

Thanks for the video. Ive been considering replacing my tent and Im actually surprised vivosun did well. Ive had an inline fan of theirs crap out on me. But ill probably go aci. Gorilla tents were never really worth the price.

[@Chrisclough-eu2cd]

Just got an ac 5x5 do not recommend pin holes on every seem vent point and light shines out all around the viewing window fully disappointed and do not recommend

[@Krone64]

You cannot test for light leaks without the tent being under pressure. My tent greencube looks okay with extraction off. Turn this on the walls suck in, then the zips fail.

[@marksteps1712]

always loving the honsty Shane, always helpful and holding these companies to their word/claims

[@brasco8721]

🤣🤣🤣 Wtf are you talking about...This is literally a paid advertisement from Vivosun and is very far from an unbias opinion.

[@marksteps1712]

@@brasco8721 Shane's always been above board and honest in the past and I have no reason to doubt his credability now, you were even able to see the table of results at the end. By all means recommend a few others and I'm sure he'll put them to the test for you. I mean the man creates lights and tests others lights to see if their claims are accurate for us all, frankly I beleive he forced the manufacturers to improve the tech and be honest about it in the growing CHILLI plants industry, but just my opinion and we're all entitled to one of those ay

[@mostlyindica]

What about Budbox tents ...

[@Санчес-я1т]

Fantastic job! Thank you! By the way, is Vivasun an American or Chinese brand?

[@tacosforus1688]

Thanks for the in depth review!

[@duncanwhite6279]

The only problem I have is the Velcro on the window doesn’t 100% seal . I tried using extra wide gorilla tape but the finish on the material is stain repellent and also glue repellent, kind of a pain

[@MIGROLIGHT]

which brand tent is it?

[@lilbear19601]

I’ve experienced the same issue. Jerry-rigged a blackout cloth over the Velcro windows. Gorilla correct?

[@musicwithten]

Enlightening video...... I'm waiting until Black Friday deals come in. I need a 2x4 tent. This video makes me put vivosun into consideration

[@BigFoot-158]

Why no spider farmer?

[@Санчес-я1т]

It’s a pity that didn’t test the Mars-Hydro tents. Also very popular tents.

[@618grow]

You get what you pay for...Gorilla by far is the best especially with the added height you get with the extension poles. Zippers are heavy duty

[@c10live16]

nice video, it would be great if you could test the BudBox grow tent with the white reflective wall against the other tents, thanks , have a nice day

[@musicwithten]

Would love to see a 2x4 spider farmer tent in the comparison

[@DavidSmith-xz4zz]

I've used Vivosun and Mars Hydro tents for years, but they are pretty much worn out. I've been thinking about going with AC Infinity, because they are comparable to Gorilla in terms of build quality. They are also innovative, which Gorilla is not, and less expensive. The reflectivity test could be due to the extra vent or ports. Who knows? I don't really see 13% being a deal breaker for what I'd be getting, if that test is even valid. I already use AC Infinity exhaust and circulation fans with their controller 69, and I find them to be quite awesome to be honest. Personally, I think AC is gunning hard for Gorillas title of best grow tent.

[@ACEffects]

Got a Vivosun Pro grow tent kit. No surprise to later learn Vivosun's was given an F rating by the BBB Better Business Bureau 😩 Quality control??? Sewing on the grow tent - it obvious they first sewed the zipper on wrong and reworked it (I bought new from them and the box was sealed). BUt they shoud have gotten new materian instead re-sewed it leaving plenty of pinholes. Had tp patch over 8 separate areas on the tent so many pinholes the light shines out. Within a few minutes of first powering it on the found electrical issues... So I em'd their CS and only response was an autoreply the nothing after that. Em's a second time and same but days later finally a reply but they are so slow on emails I wondered if would use a print letter in the mail if it woud be quicker? My post-purchase customer service is completely different than my pre-purchase experience and not for the positive. I regret not researching other suppliers better. In IMHO Vivosun has easily earned their BBB Better business bureau F rating!

[@brettblankenship3246]

Any tent will do the job u can use a closet as long as there no light leaks good ventilation and a good light

[@dleese66]

what about Mars Hydro, and Spider Farmer??

[@jardiniere3546]

Vivosun isn't pressed about Mars Hydro/Spider Farmer (owned by the same people, by the way)--they are pressed about AC Infinity, which is why they paid for this video.

[@chadh6855]

I’m pretty sure all the tents in the video except the Gorilla one are made in the same factory. Mars Hydro and Spider Farmer same factory too. They just get the choice of ABS or SBS zipper, 16/19/22mm poles, and 600D/1680D/2000D canvas. Mars and Spyder use the middle 19mm poles and 1680D canvas.

[@NorthwoodsDank]

I only got 2 grows out of a vivosun tent, then the zipper broke the window velcro failed and let light in and pin holes just showed up, letting more light in vivosun = cheap junk

[@teej7577]

Hard to find a tent with everything you need..either shit material thats too thin or the height is too low...I wanted a 4x2..ended up going with the Spiderfarmer ..it had 2m height...half decent canvas..i just bought aftermarket bars to strengthen it up..the Vivosun pro series looked good but sold out fast in Australia...Mars Tents are unavailable..and the Gorilla to me dont justify the extra price..id probably try an AC Infinity..

[@IEA_455]

What about smell ?

[@dragonflygenetics420]

Thats good to know. Not being in the US vivosun price point and quality is on top of the competition!

[@stuartrichardson6928]

Needed an ikea wardrobe for a proper start out comparison!

[@vurtch]

Great video . Thanks as always

[@roryoconnor1411]

Brilliant information as always thank you

[@kulak8548]

Awesome video, results surprised me too.

[@DirtyMoneyHipHop]

I'm sure they are all somewhat similar, but after doing some research, AC Infinity seems like the best option from what I can tell.

[@Shade_91]

with the vivosun being so damn ugly and eye catching with the green and the Gorilla being at least twice the price i would still go with the AC Infinity. i cant even use my LEDs at full strength in my tent without damaging the plants so the 13% doesn't mean a whole lot to me.

[@KootMed]

I have tried some of the economy tents and they just don't hold up❗ I have been growing in Gorilla Grow Tents for years and they are the best👍 IMHO✌

[@timpage5021]

100% agreed Growtent is something you really don’t wanna cheap out on either.

[@BigBird-m3e]

I am on a budget i went with Vivosun and all of my electronic equipment from Vivosun are failing. Incorrect reading incorrect functioning. I got what i paid for. Lesson learned.

[@petergill4744]

Sadly have to say the inventor of the growtent (Homebox) Has gone the same way as the Budbox Par plus white, baloney Shall be getting myself an AC Infinity to replace my High top Homebox ambient 120

[@melangkoh4184]

Shane dou you think there will be a new generation of LEDs that generate 70% or even 80% light efficiency? Becasue if not, were pretty much at a deadstop right now, dont you think? We already have lights with crazy amounts of top bin LEDS, and raising the amount even more will have very tiny effect...because theyre already on a very low current. I dont know of any new "light techonlogy" on the horizon. ATM it looks like app. 3.0 PPFD at is what is achieveable with very good equipment and will be for the next decades. Do you have aby reason to believe otherwise?

[@chastheplayer8367]

You need 3 vents on the bottom of the tent for air flow…thats how i run anyway..thx for reviewing

[@jeremycoolidge6430]

the reason is because the larger tents have more space for the light to get lost because the are much taller

[@mikehancho1613]

I wanted to like ac infinity but it leaks light TERRIBLE. If you dont have your tent in a dark room good luck

[@andrewroberts9335]

Ac infinity and gorilla need to make a 2.5x5 like vivo did. I have two. Tbh wish I could get a gorilla one with the extra height.

[@deleqtronica8733]

This looks like the Viosun Pro tent in the middle, the left one is the regular tent, incase anyone is researching for purchasing.

[@mcfreeak]

I would like to see a comparison to just white walls. I’m using the smallest migro led and checking with a par meter I’m amazed how much is reflected by white. I’ve seen some reports that say Aluminized walls are just “bro science”. Has anyone seen a test like that? Great Chanel great products.

[@MIGROLIGHT]

Hi, planning on testing a white tent soon, thanks

[@mikescott7408]

@mcfreeak When we first grew there was little info and few products and i remember arguing w a partner telling him flat white was better then mylar, and now years later i see data showing 95% mylar 90% flat white as long as mylar is perfectly flat. When i was first given a tent i thought wtf w silver walls that looked like tin foil all crinkled up. I have entirely different idea for this but not talking about here until io look into it. I used to look for migro videos about lights and now having own light and sponsored video for vivoson sort of makes me think he was always a corporate plant making these videos from the beginning for industry always for paid results .. also It would cost multiple millions to come out with own light technology and cost hundreds to just simply rebrand and now a light 6 diff lights.... hmmmm

[@TheSpeechkiss]

Great review, thanks Shane ! Can you review a new iPhone ? And a pixel phone from Google too ! Ha ha ! :]] No seriously, thanks, loved the review, always wondered how do these tents compare.

[@TroyWatsonYEG]

I'd love it if you pointed out more than the pole width, and mentioned what the corners are made of that hold everything together. If they're not all metal, the tent is junk period. Also, I'm not even sure what the hell you're talking about when you say "height doesn't really matter"? Height limitations certainly do matter, ESPECIALLY if you're doing an ebb and flow system or something that takes you 1 - 2' off the floor.

[@mikescott7408]

I almost guarantee a 4x4x48" tent will run hotter then a 4x4x80" tent. size matters don't fool your selves. lol

[@nk-dw2hm]

My vivosun disappointed me, I have minor light leaks and overall build quality isn't what I expected. Wish I had stepped up to the AC or gorilla since its something you buy once and keep for years

[@MIGROLIGHT]

Yes the old one was not great but the new one is much improved

[@Headies420]

i thought vivo sun had plastic poles and wrinkled interior

[@Shyne12345678]

But what about white vs silver tents :D

[@cheebee2659]

well i never.. thankyou, tents would make an excellent series. 👍

[@Chrisclough-eu2cd]

Just bought a 5x5 and its got pin holes on every seem , vent point , leeking from all round the viewing window had it up 3 days . Only started running it yesterd and fully disappointed and would not recommend . Wouldn't know where to start trying to cover and i have photos to prove 🤦 fully fully disappointed . I have all there extractors fans humidifier every think no i want to switch has any one got any the recommended that doesn't look like it was made by a child please literally started a run so need one asap

[@Roguesquadron-gs9ds]

These tents need to start at 7 ft minimum. Ideally 8 ft

[@mdspider]

Thanks for the video. I was debating on which I should buy.

[@plethos]

well the one he's reviewing (and it's a sponsored review) isn't available to buy yet, he doesn't make that very clear

[@Mrjboomseedco]

Do a review of the silver back tent it’s. A knock off I think or htg version of gorilla a bit cheaper with the height that gorilla offers that’s the biggest selling point of gorilla sometime su want a tall garden