Miguel Vs Robby In Part 2 | Ending The Debate!

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@Bokesyck
@Bokesyck 7 күн бұрын
I forgot to add this in the video, Robby 1v2’d Kwon and Yoon, so pick your team, 2 random nameless Dublin thunder guys Or Kwon (who beat Miguel in a 1v1 sudden death) and Yoon (hawk level)
@Gsly77
@Gsly77 7 күн бұрын
Those to random Dublin thunder guys bet Robby and Sam. Not to forget Kwon over Robby let me explain why. While Kwon was fighting Robby, Robby almost falls of the mat which means Kwon gets a point but again. Tory gives Robby a little shove so Robby doesn't fall. And even if Robby managed to get balance Kwon did a kick which would have knocked robby out or atleast get a point. U also said Kwon scored a point against Miguel with that logic Anthony over Robby.
@ItsYoursTruly23
@ItsYoursTruly23 7 күн бұрын
Robby didnt even 1v2 them he legit just caught them off guard and was able to kick yoon, kwon took 0 damage during the brawl until axel stepped in, also miguel 1v2ed literally MULTIPLE times during the sekai tekai, meanwhile robby was losing every fight, so if we going off of feats miguel>robby
@Gsly77
@Gsly77 7 күн бұрын
@@ItsYoursTruly23 Fr
@Gsly77
@Gsly77 7 күн бұрын
Robby fans are gonna jump me
@Bokesyck
@Bokesyck 7 күн бұрын
@@ItsYoursTruly23 they were looking dead at him, and Kwon had to cheap shot Robby more than once lmfao, “Kwon took 0 damage” after Robby giving him a big bruise on his head in pre sure those hits packed a punch
@imtiyazyasir23
@imtiyazyasir23 9 күн бұрын
Miguel and Robby are literally equal fighters as they both can beat each other. For example, S5: Miguel beat Robby fair and square S6: Robby beat Miguel fair and square Also, Miguel and Robby are literally equal characters since they both have reasons that make them goats. For example, Robby - the first out of his generation to stand up to the Terry-fying Scary Terry Silver Miguel - the first out of his generation to stand up to the King-Cobra John Kreese
@MrCoolKnight
@MrCoolKnight 9 күн бұрын
Yeah but according to what we saw in part 2, Robby was fighting better it just don't make sense how they went from equal in part 1 to having a huge gap in power with Robby dominating kwon but Miguel only fighting relative to Kwon, and also Kwon and Robby were able to fight Axel better then Miguel the only thing keep Miguel up against Axel was his stamina and durability but at the rate that fight was going on Miguel would have eventually been knocked out. And Kwon beat Miguel with no real difficulty he wasn't even trying. There's also a argument to be made that maybe after Tory came Robby defeated Miguel pretty easily scoring 3 in a row. At the end of the day tho the writers will make someone more strong depending on if the plot needs it or not.
@arzqh
@arzqh 9 күн бұрын
​@MrCoolKnight it is what is sadly, Robby is such a goated character. We all know what happens to the "definitely" not toxic Fanbase if Robby actually won the ST💀💀
@PuertoRican-EL
@PuertoRican-EL Күн бұрын
​@MrCoolKnight Plot always nerfs fighters. Like hawk being robby and miguel level in season 4, but now in season 6 he's somehow below yoon
@jambogames678
@jambogames678 6 күн бұрын
S1: Tie S2: Miguel S3: Robby S4: Tie S5: Miguel S6: (So far) Robby
@lukasilagadze2812
@lukasilagadze2812 2 сағат бұрын
s1 robby lost 3-2 because he was injured and muguel targeted injured spot
@jambogames678
@jambogames678 2 сағат бұрын
@lukasilagadze2812 yes Miguel undeniably cheated, however in a street fight there’s no rules meaning Miguel could still exploit Robby’s injuries to fight on par
@lukasilagadze2812
@lukasilagadze2812 2 сағат бұрын
@@jambogames678 in s1 if they fought bolt without injuries robby would won
@SuccessSphere748
@SuccessSphere748 9 күн бұрын
Miguel fanboys have to be the most annyoing
@HK_editz-goat
@HK_editz-goat 8 күн бұрын
Robby fanboys are way worse and stupid
@rashidamcneil208
@rashidamcneil208 8 күн бұрын
​@@HK_editz-goat no both are bad one Miguel glazer said Robby is not a main character and one Miguel glazer said S2 Miguel can beat Axel bro and Robby glazers are just something else
@HK_editz-goat
@HK_editz-goat 8 күн бұрын
@@rashidamcneil208 no s2 Miguel can't but his mentality was killer bro
@jasonmadun5480
@jasonmadun5480 8 күн бұрын
@@rashidamcneil208 i would say that robby fans are a little more mature than miguel fans
@nota1mm
@nota1mm 7 күн бұрын
​@@rashidamcneil208 Robby fans are way more nicer and mature to everyone except the miguel glazers
@cobrakaineverdies175
@cobrakaineverdies175 9 күн бұрын
I love how people act like Robby wasn’t mentally nerfed throughout a vast majority of part 2 when he clearly was. Great video
@imtiyazyasir23
@imtiyazyasir23 9 күн бұрын
Yeah, I know. Robby was unfocused for the majority of CK S6 P2 because of Tory in Cobra Kai (as writers and actors confirmed)
@thecreativemillenial
@thecreativemillenial 9 күн бұрын
He clearly was. His head was not in the game, hence his amateur mistakes. Mistakes he wouldn't normally make.
@Wes_Bradley-Taubner
@Wes_Bradley-Taubner 8 күн бұрын
There's Mentally Nerfed Robby (him in most of S6p2 is the best example of this). Then there's Base Robby (so probably Robby vs Miguel at the apartment fight) Then there's Balanced Robby (basically the mindset he was in during the S1 tournament fight when he was doing breathing techniques to centre himself and was fully focused) Then there's Enraged Robby (basically in S4 when he fights Kenny) Then there's Locked In Robby (Basically him when he fights Kwon, as he was pissed off at Kwon for manipulating him into thinking Tory was cheating on him which gave him a rage amp that boosted his stats, but that rage didn't impact his balance because he was also super focused and fighting very very tactically and skillfully in order to tame his fury and use it as effectively as possible) Locked In Robby is something else entirely
@cobrakaineverdies175
@cobrakaineverdies175 8 күн бұрын
@@Wes_Bradley-Taubner yeah
@cobrakaineverdies175
@cobrakaineverdies175 8 күн бұрын
@@thecreativemillenial ik that’s my point
@twisttiger
@twisttiger 9 күн бұрын
Can we remember that Miguel was on the plane for 10+ hours and then fought and Robby got a second chance to fight Kwon Miguel only got 1 chance (no glazing ) and it was an enraged axel against Miguel
@WowTooCool
@WowTooCool 9 күн бұрын
And Robby blacked out the night before and was hella hungover. Do you think the writers take these factors into account? Everyone is always healthy and in their base form before they fight
@twisttiger
@twisttiger 9 күн бұрын
@ I mean your kinda right
@speedpaintanimations4126
@speedpaintanimations4126 9 күн бұрын
he had like 2 other fights before that and he kicked just fine, no hate but he probably had the time to warm up his legs and stretch before that fight and as for axel, you can see that after Robby gets punched in the face, he kind of semi- focuses and Axel tries 100%, and literally cannot land a single hit, until the point where he throws a bit of a fit and asks Robby if he's going to keep defending or fight. If Robby gets that offense up, he's gonna beat Axel. and as you can see in the part 3 teasers, he lands 2 540 kicks on Axel's face, that's pretty much your answer right there.
@Zenux09
@Zenux09 9 күн бұрын
Robby also was winning the fight against kwan the first come he only lost once he got distracted again
@tronstraditionalarts5520
@tronstraditionalarts5520 8 күн бұрын
@@twisttigerfinally someone gets it!!!!😭
@Sonofgezergozer
@Sonofgezergozer 9 күн бұрын
Fax another argument I hear from Miguel fans is that he fought the most enraged version of Axel and performed better against him than Robby could against a base Axel which is just stupid
@gG51515
@gG51515 9 күн бұрын
I mean I disagree with it but you can’t just call it stupid and not elaborate
@Sonofgezergozer
@Sonofgezergozer 9 күн бұрын
@@gG51515 Robby just blatantly has a way better performance lol
@gG51515
@gG51515 9 күн бұрын
@@Sonofgezergozer Their argument is that Miguel fights a stronger Axel tho
@Sonofgezergozer
@Sonofgezergozer 9 күн бұрын
@@gG51515 still u can't quantity how much better enraged Axel is than base Axel
@Zeuxon651
@Zeuxon651 9 күн бұрын
@@Sonofgezergozerwell wait for p3, yo boy gets a broken leg and being a chef while Miguel wins it all and becomes the male champion for cobra Kai
@jaiveerrajiv905
@jaiveerrajiv905 7 күн бұрын
Right but a major part of fighting for long duration is mental toughness . Skill alone doesn’t win you fights , given by the fact that Robby is yet to win a tournament . Miguel is far more mentally tough than Robby is . I have them as equal but it’s gonna change once Miguel beats axel
@Bokesyck
@Bokesyck 7 күн бұрын
@@jaiveerrajiv905 Robby hasn’t won cuz the first time Miguel cheated and the next time Eli was just better lmfao
@Anomaly_Files18
@Anomaly_Files18 5 күн бұрын
@@BokesyckMiguel didn’t even cheat though, that was Hawk.
@saintfortune
@saintfortune 3 күн бұрын
​@@Bokesyck NOONE ASKED ROBBY TO FIGHT MIGUEL INJURED IN SEASON 1 PERIOD
@xopokery
@xopokery 9 күн бұрын
they’re stated to be equal by the creators at the end of part 2 so neither of them are > the other. and the kwon thing shouldn’t matter much since both of them trained afterwards. regardless tho W vid we gotta do that *other* one soon🗣️
@Bokesyck
@Bokesyck 9 күн бұрын
@@xopokery yeah bro I keep being busy on weekends 😭
@whoeditzfr
@whoeditzfr 8 күн бұрын
​​​@@Bokesyckbokesyck u do know the writing is for Kwon and Robby to fight right because of story right an this is a point system right, they hypes up these two fighting because they are captains bro this point shit I cant take serious but in terms of story writing yeah he would give Miguel a problem he still wouldn't win if we talking point system yes
@SM-rq9it
@SM-rq9it 8 күн бұрын
"How does one point determine who is better?" - well, that's why we've had two sudden death overtime matches where that one single point determined who fought better and won.
@npittswarof2
@npittswarof2 7 күн бұрын
Can’t wait for the writers to nerf the crap out of Axel. Axel who nobody landed a point on.
@user-nk3wd7nl3l
@user-nk3wd7nl3l 9 күн бұрын
I have never seen a video where someone would spit so much fax. Didn't even miss once. Every argument you used is what I've been telling everyone but no one listens. Edit: that part 3 argument is easily the worst one too
@football-editzzzz.
@football-editzzzz. 9 күн бұрын
Thats what im sayingg
@Comicedits39
@Comicedits39 9 күн бұрын
That part 3 argument Is valid tho, Miguel beats Axel and Axel beats robby, Miguel>Robby, it’s the same argument yall use for Miguel and Kwon, Robby Beat Kwon and Miguel lost to kwon, Robby>Miguel
@football-editzzzz.
@football-editzzzz. 9 күн бұрын
@@Comicedits39 Yeah but miguel doesnt beat axel and if u say "hes gonna beat him in part 3" ya but nothings confirmed until we see it, the creators have been taking random pics to confuse fans and make leaks not happen so really even if u believe it, anything can happen
@Comicedits39
@Comicedits39 9 күн бұрын
@@football-editzzzz.they just say that To confuse fans even more, Majority of Part 2’s Leaks came true, It’s going to Happen, The only question is, How?
@football-editzzzz.
@football-editzzzz. 9 күн бұрын
@@Comicedits39 im js saying man we neverrr know
@Southpaw-p1t
@Southpaw-p1t 9 күн бұрын
i just love the fact that people say robby is trash in part 2 not realizing that robby got their favorite hero miguel and the rest of the team to the finals next thing you know people are going to say oh miguel got the team to the “semi” finals there is a difference between semi finals and finals and the finals is the real deal without robby miguel wouldn’t win the sekai takai if that’s what you guys claim to believe y’all should be happy that the character you guys hate got miguel to the finals and the team 😂😂😂😂
@rashidamcneil208
@rashidamcneil208 9 күн бұрын
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@MinillaTheKing
@MinillaTheKing 9 күн бұрын
​@@rashidamcneil208Miguel is in cobra Kai now y'all stupid or sum?
@rashidamcneil208
@rashidamcneil208 9 күн бұрын
​@@MinillaTheKing I mean true
@red._.thunderyt5472
@red._.thunderyt5472 9 күн бұрын
That one point that Kwon scored on Miguel is the most bs argument I’ve ever seen. Miguel was shown in the first fight of the tournament to easily keep up with Kwon and Kwon didn’t score a point on him then. On top of this, the writers NEEDED Miguel to lose this point as part 2 is Robby’s part. Think about it. If Miguel scored on Kwon there, then it would take away the stakes from Robby’s fight. The same thing is gna happen in part 3. If Robby beats axel then it would take away from Miguel’s fight with axel. Therefore the plot needed Miguel to lose that point. Also, kwon landed a single point/ hit on axel. Does that mean he’s better than Robby? HELL NO. So Kwon landing a single hit on Miguel doesn’t mean that he’s better than Miguel. Miguel and Robby are equals. Even through this tournament as the creators stated that they are at the end of part 2.
@gotnwv2
@gotnwv2 9 күн бұрын
Or maybe the plot says Kwon is better than Miguel 😶
@red._.thunderyt5472
@red._.thunderyt5472 9 күн бұрын
@ LMAOOO keep dreaming. Unlucklily for u, the creators said that Miguel and Robby are dead equal at the end of part 2. So the plot literally says he’s better than Kwon! Nice try though 😂
@Bokesyck
@Bokesyck 9 күн бұрын
It’s always the plot argument, I don’t care if Miguel could fight on par in their first fight because their first fight doesn’t contribute to their overall scaling END OF SEASON Also plot is the show, if plot demands Robby be better, he is just better same with in part 3
@red._.thunderyt5472
@red._.thunderyt5472 8 күн бұрын
@ wait what??? Wdym their first fight doesn’t matter. Ur js gonna disregard a whole part of their matchup???? It’s still part of the same tournament. What kinda argument is that? It’s a pathetic attempt to prop up Robby in this debate. Miguel and Robby are equals in part 2. There’s statements to back it up. So ultimately it doesn’t matter what you think. That’s how it is and that’s how it will be. Part 2 the scaling is axel> Robby = Miguel > Kwon.
@_White_YT
@_White_YT 8 күн бұрын
@@BokesyckUhm u can’t really ignore a whole fight by saying it didn’t contribute to the scaling at the end of season but alr
@grapes196
@grapes196 8 күн бұрын
Why are Robby fans forgetting that Miguel would be able to kill Robby with his bare hands by now if he never hurt his back.
@venomaims
@venomaims 8 күн бұрын
And how do you know that? What evidence do you actually have to support that lmao, ur whole argument is based on assumptions, no real reasoning whatsoever.
@grapes196
@grapes196 8 күн бұрын
@ My evidence is this: In s5 Miguel managed to beat Robby and had an opportunity to kick him to his death if he wanted to. If Miguel never hurt his back it would be because he committed to breaking Robby’s arm during the school fight. This would set Miguel down a dark path and he wouldn’t be injured and he would be strong and dark enough to kill Robby.
@venomaims
@venomaims 8 күн бұрын
@ First of all that kick wouldn't have killed him 🤣, at the most it would have seriously injured him, also that doesn't mean there was a significant gap between them, just because he had the opportunity to seriously harm Robby doesn't mean he's a way better fighter, also all these feats are from previous seasons, one thing you and many other miguel fans LOVE to ignore is that people can surpass other fighters over time, in season 6 if we go feats for feats, robby has slightly surpassed miguel and if you want I can provide evidence for this.
@elcanaldemelej7377
@elcanaldemelej7377 8 күн бұрын
Great video! And I respect your opinion but I have a few points. 1.-Robby locked in is better than Miguel because he was angry and in full balance but it is not his base form. 2.- In the captains war Miguel actually dominated Kwon if you put attention to the details and he was saved by a random girl of Cobra Kai who distracted Miguel 3.-Kwon landed a point because he waited until Miguel got up and his guard was down (if you don’t believe watch their fight in slow motion). I know I may sounded like a Miguel fanboy but truly I love both of them and I admit that in p.1 Robby is better (and Kwon didn’t do better that Miguel VS Axel at all, he was defeated with a few punches of Axel and he may landed a hit but that is because of his speed)
@Bokesyck
@Bokesyck 7 күн бұрын
@@elcanaldemelej7377 1. I’m not taking base Robby I’m taking prime robby which is the exact one ur talking about 2. That fight is at the start of the sekai and they get stronger as it goes on so idc about that first fight. 3. He still landed a point so I don’t get why that works in Miguel’s favour, just shows Kwon has better fight iq 4. Kwon landed a hit cuz of his speed, and Miguel couldn’t land any hits, ur basically saying that Kwon would blitz Miguel cuz his speed would be too much for Miguel to handle, so idk how u could say “didn’t have a better performance” before explaining why his performance was better
@elcanaldemelej7377
@elcanaldemelej7377 7 күн бұрын
First of all I really like your job so I wouldn’t like to this be bad debate. In his primes I totally agree that Robby wins, he was more focused and overall a better fighter ( The Robby that defeated Kwon, not the one of ep10) but that was because of a boost so I prefer talking about their base forms. 2.- I know they get better but let be honest I don’t believe that their level change a lot because when they were in Barcelona they didn’t train at all but they only fight so their level would be similar. 3.- I know and obviously Kwon won fair and square but my point is that Kwon did all that just to break Diaz defense and in a street fight I don’t know if that strategy would be useful (because Miguel got up really quickly which means the kick didn’t hurt him a lot) 4.- Miguel did a lot better against Axel, I know Kwon landed a kick but Axel didn’t fell it and Yoon also did it but that doesn’t mean he is better and Miguel tanked all of Axel’s hits all the brawl and Robby and Kwon couldn’t do it.
@YoKhaleed
@YoKhaleed 8 күн бұрын
Robby=Miguel Robby would have defeated Axel if it wasn't for Sensei Wolf.
@ToiletCL
@ToiletCL 8 күн бұрын
Finally someone who understands me. All this time, I have been fighting Miguel glazers in comment sections and you just proved them wrong. W
@speedpaintanimations4126
@speedpaintanimations4126 9 күн бұрын
finally someone who doesn't have filtered vision and hearing in favour of Miguel, I thought I was the last of the kind lol, i'de like to also add that the "MiGuEl 2V1eD" argument is pointless considering Robby literally 2v1ed KWON AND YOON in the brawl at the end AND WON, not to mention the fact that they are playing on the fact he told Robby that he's the better fighter when HE LITERALLY SAID like 2 episodes later that what he said was bullsh and Robby is better, he won fair and square and he just needs to lock in, now that's selective vison and hearing if i've ever seen it
@Comicedits39
@Comicedits39 9 күн бұрын
Part 2: Axel Robby Miguel Kwon Part 3: Miguel Axel Robby Kwon
@caleb4851
@caleb4851 9 күн бұрын
Overall Miguel had a better performance but Robby was a better fighter and had better feats as a Miguel fan. Robby takes part one and part two and id put Miguel at 3 or 4. My prediction however is that Miguel will go back to 1 or 2 after part three because there’s no way the writers are gonna let Miguel’s story end on beating fodders and losing to Robby, Kwon, and Axel when they are stated to be close or relative 😭 but yeah Miguel is the 3rd or 4th ranked fighter in part two imo
@RemainHumble2024
@RemainHumble2024 9 күн бұрын
Robby is the better fighter in part 2
@Divinegodplayz
@Divinegodplayz 9 күн бұрын
Cap,Robby lost to a none captain iron dragon fighter,rewatch and you'll see,Miguel 1v2ed a captain and none captain,(1 beat Robby)and Robby couldn't beat the captain of the Brazil team,when flipping KENNY beat him,and don't mention how kwon beat his ahh,so that's that,Miguel is just build different and better
@rashidamcneil208
@rashidamcneil208 9 күн бұрын
​@@Divinegodplayz Because Robby was mentally nerfed because of Tory and it was pretty clear
@Divinegodplayz
@Divinegodplayz 9 күн бұрын
@@rashidamcneil208 yea but Miguel after sam and his break up in s1,he wasn't mentally nerfed,instead bro destroyed Robby,and ain't nobody better say Robby's shoulder was injured,my point is,if Robby was focused,he still couldn't have beaten Miguel,and just wait,you'll see how Robby loses to axel,it was leaked,but Miguel will win,and in part 2 also, because part 3 isn't even a month or year apart
@rashidamcneil208
@rashidamcneil208 9 күн бұрын
​@Divinegodplayz Jon Hurwitz confirmed that they are equal in Part 2 so that debunks what people say but if they fought Robby would beat him and I don't Think Miguel was mentally nerfed when him and sam broke up it kinda gave a rage and made him fight dirty Robby had shown better in Part 2 of the brawl and beat both Kwon and Yoon who above the Doubling Thunder fighters and the Actor of Axel Statment says that he was surprised that Robby was able to block as many attacks from Axel in the process that is just my opinion
@Divinegodplayz
@Divinegodplayz 9 күн бұрын
@@rashidamcneil208yea but still,when axel punched Robby,he spat out blood,but when axel punched Miguel harder,he didn't really take any impact,and plus the only reason Miguel couldn't keep up with axel was because axel was going full power on him because he's sams bf,and he likes her,and plus,the Robby glaze has to stop,Miguel is stronger,he trained longer,and the only reason he lost to kwon was because part 2 was focused on robby,Miguel solos
@WowTooCool
@WowTooCool 9 күн бұрын
Why can’t people accept Miguel and Robby are equals?
@LegacyEditsAE
@LegacyEditsAE 9 күн бұрын
Because in part 2 they’re not
@adamdayib770
@adamdayib770 9 күн бұрын
it is like that! it's just the people who started watching cobra kai last year who think Miguel is better which is not the case they are equal and that's the best answer!
@Bokesyck
@Bokesyck 9 күн бұрын
@@adamdayib770 that’s the lazy answer not the best one
@football-editzzzz.
@football-editzzzz. 9 күн бұрын
@@Bokesyck real, ur the only one that understands me 😔
@adamdayib770
@adamdayib770 9 күн бұрын
@Bokesyck the lazy answer is saying Miguel is better and plus bro is literally gonna win the sekai taikai which is stupid enough
@SM-rq9it
@SM-rq9it 8 күн бұрын
Finally I see a video where someone talks sense!
@jordanirishura
@jordanirishura 9 күн бұрын
as a miguel fan i agree on robby getting the edge beacuse of feats but beacuse of the writer statements it can rlly go either way. honestly im GLAD FOR ROBBY FOR FINALLY GETTING A DUB SEASON BUT IN PART 3 I CAN ASURE U MIGUEL WILL RISE AND BE THE BEST TEEN FIGHTER.
@rashidamcneil208
@rashidamcneil208 9 күн бұрын
Yes sir
@-Gamerly-
@-Gamerly- 9 күн бұрын
I'm so tired of Miguel fans saying he wins for some dumbass reasons 😭 Last time I asked someone to bring up feats that are better than axels (not Robby, but AXEL), they said, and I quote, "He 2v1d Dublin thunder and motivated Robby". And after I asked them how that was better than Axel they replied saying I was mad and never replied again. For the "it's only one point" thing, it's annoying cus they always bring up "oh so you think Anthony is better than Robby?" Like just excluding the context of the show. Robby is constantly shown to be above Anthony, and everyone knows that because it's obvious. You might as well say any fight that was won by one point doesn't count anymore. Miguel and Kwon is different because they only had 2 brief encounters in the first one neither landed a point and in the second Kwon landed a point. Miguel hasn't hit him once And in terms of the Miguels footwork thing, I think that was just more because it wasn't a tournament fight and axel could just grab and toss him around (but Miguel was still getting floored by his punches so idk) Anyways yeah I yapped a lot
@MinillaTheKing
@MinillaTheKing 9 күн бұрын
So your a Robby glazer hating on Miguel glazers it never ends does it😭🙏🤦
@-Gamerly-
@-Gamerly- 9 күн бұрын
@MinillaTheKing I'm not tryna glaze him I'm just sick of this stupid ass argument 😭 I literally justified Miguel being floored Both sides are annoying af ngl, I'm just saying I don't get why people think Miguel wins when his feats are bad
@MinillaTheKing
@MinillaTheKing 9 күн бұрын
​@@-Gamerly-Yeah I know its annoying but the guy who's making this video is clearly a Robby fan he just never hypes Miguel at all and when he does talk about Miguel is trashing him idk why this guy don't like Miguel
@rashidamcneil208
@rashidamcneil208 9 күн бұрын
​@@MinillaTheKing I mean I guess you never know
@rashidamcneil208
@rashidamcneil208 9 күн бұрын
​@@-Gamerly- fr bro
@Nrr0501
@Nrr0501 9 күн бұрын
Another interesting side note is that the characters are graduating high school. After this tournament they are gonna be going on to live their lives. The writers said that they wanted to give every character a good ending. We know that characters like Miguel, Demetri, and Hawk are gonna go to college, but I was thinking like what would be a good ending for Robby? And then I remembered what Johnny said about how Robby can’t go to college because of his academic and criminal record, so martial arts is the only thing he has. And I think this is why it makes sense for Robby to shine this season and be the best fighter. It would make sense if he won the Sekai Taikai and then got a bunch of sponsorships and brand deals and became a world renowned martial artist. This is the only ending that seems fulfilling for Robby imo.
@ЖантикБолатжан
@ЖантикБолатжан 9 күн бұрын
Axel>=robby>kwon>miguel p2
@red._.thunderyt5472
@red._.thunderyt5472 9 күн бұрын
Bro in NO UNIVERSE is Robby equal to axel in part 2. Yall Robby fans are delusional 😂. Also kwon is not better than Miguel. Kwon landed a hit on axel does that make him better than Robby? HELL NO. Miguel lost to plot. If they had a fair fight Miguel would win
@jasonmadun5480
@jasonmadun5480 8 күн бұрын
@@red._.thunderyt5472that’s what every Miguel fan has to say. “Miguel lost all because of plot” “Robby got plot armor” that’s absolutely stupid
@red._.thunderyt5472
@red._.thunderyt5472 8 күн бұрын
@@jasonmadun5480 bro what??? If Miguel beat kwon before Robby fought him then that would take away from Robby’s win. The creator John Hurwitz said that Miguel and Robby are dead equals at the END of part 2. Keep denying it
@jasonmadun5480
@jasonmadun5480 8 күн бұрын
@@red._.thunderyt5472 John Hurwitz said that “I PERSONALLY believe if they fought 100 times, they’d each win 50” meaning that him saying that their equal was his personal opinion. It doesn’t correlate to an actual confirmation.
@red._.thunderyt5472
@red._.thunderyt5472 8 күн бұрын
@ bro what. It’s the literal creator. If Akira toriyama said that he PERSONALLY believes that goku and vegeta are equals it would be TRUE. Yk why? CAUSE HES THE CREATOR. wtf is this argument?
@Wes_Bradley-Taubner
@Wes_Bradley-Taubner 8 күн бұрын
My GOAT Bokesy returns to tame the Miguel fanboys. It's unfortunate though that not even Bokesy's logical reasoning spell is powerful enough to penetrate the mental defences of biased ignorance conjured by the Miguel fanboys in unison. Robby beats Miguel 3-2 in a completely fair tournament style fight where both were fully motivated to win (the "Miguel was mentally nerfed" idea is copium at it's finest). Miguel fans still said Miguel > Robby. Fully Focused Robby defeats Kwon, IMMEDIATELY AFTER Kwon beat Miguel in seconds. Miguel fans still said Miguel > Robby. Fully Focused Robby does the best job against Axel out of any teen (defending against so many attacks from Axel and even somewhat adapting to his style towards the end, even though he had no hopes of winning), while Miguel got continually bullied like a toddler (bro kept coming back at Axel just to get floored immediately). Miguel fans STILL said Miguel > Robby. Robby could oneshot Fully Focused and Enraged Miguel at peak health, and Miguel fans will still find some excuse to say Miguel > Robby. Miguel received food poisoning from the pizza party in S5, and it took until now to finally kick in due to an incredibly delayed reaction or something. I'm sure that the leaks are true and Miguel will surpass Robby by the end of the show (because the whole "Miguel low diffing Axel 28-7" seems like the exact kind of nonsensical BS that this goofy franchise would pull in the finale). But as of right now, all the evidence points to Robby > Miguel. Not by a lot, but he's solidly superior. You're totally right that the fans who mention S6p3 scaling (which doesn't even exist yet and is just hypothetical speculative leaks) are just being moronic because that has nothing to do with S6p2 scaling.
@_White_YT
@_White_YT 8 күн бұрын
The only thing I disagree with u is the mentally nerfed part, which he was according to the creators😐. But ye Robby is the better fighter in part 2.
@Wes_Bradley-Taubner
@Wes_Bradley-Taubner 8 күн бұрын
@@_White_YTwhen did the creators confirm Miguel was mentally nerfed in the captains fight against Robby? He was fully motivated to win because he reality wanted the captain spot. There was no reason for him not to be fighting at peak capacity
@_White_YT
@_White_YT 8 күн бұрын
@ it was in an interview, they said that both were fighting for different stuffs but Miguel atleast had Sam at the start and that’s why it started out as it did and when Tory came back it gave Robby confidence and made Miguel unbalanced. If you’d like me to post the timestamp of the interview lmk
@Wes_Bradley-Taubner
@Wes_Bradley-Taubner 8 күн бұрын
@@_White_YT That doesn’t really make any sense. If you’re saying “at least Miguel had Sam,” (I assume this is for motivation), then that means that once Tory arrived, that would’ve just equaled things out by having both fighters have their girlfriends present to motivate them. Sam’s motivation probably helped more seeing as how she actually talked to Miguel during the fight to tell him it would be ok. All Robby got was a look at Tory. I also don’t see how or why Tory arriving would unbalance Miguel. He got over his feelings for Tory back in S3. Both fighters were fully motivated to win, neither were fighting to seriously hurt each other (though you could argue that Miguel’s anger would’ve made him fight a tiny bit harder), both had their girlfriends to motivate them (though Robby didn’t have his girlfriend until later), etc. Very even fight. I would like to see the interview though since I can’t find it online, so that would be appreciated thank you.
@_White_YT
@_White_YT 7 күн бұрын
@ when Tory came back Robby got his focus back up and seeing this led Miguel to falling off balance. I’m pretty sure that’s what the writers meant. ‘All Robby got was a look’ I mean the only reason he was off balance was cause of the fact ‘she was not there’ so Ofc just seeing her back there would cover it up. Cobra Kai Season 6 Spoiler Interview Burning Questions Teases&More Part 2(Time, 23:34) here’s the source u can just look it up.
@aarizhaq8681
@aarizhaq8681 8 күн бұрын
miguel slams literally the only feat robby has the entirety of part 2 is landing a point on that brazil guy,defending well againts axel and landed a point on kwon who kwon was not even taking seriously since he literally beat his ahh in the first fight
@anthonycobrakai
@anthonycobrakai 9 күн бұрын
Another W
@Zeuxon651
@Zeuxon651 9 күн бұрын
Writers stated that Miguel and Robby are EQUAL in p2. Also for the people who’re trashing on Miguel, wait for p3. Yo boy gets his leg injured and becomes a chef while Miguel wins it all. Have fun seeing that
@rashidamcneil208
@rashidamcneil208 9 күн бұрын
People are trashing on Robby more when they can't just like both
@Zeuxon651
@Zeuxon651 9 күн бұрын
@ look at the other comments on this post, some are trashing on Miguel too. My message is to them
@rashidamcneil208
@rashidamcneil208 9 күн бұрын
​@@Zeuxon651 Robby getting trashed on people say he is the worst charcter in the show and most of them saying that is Miguel fans and Robby fans are just annoying bro they just can't like both
@Zeuxon651
@Zeuxon651 9 күн бұрын
@ cause when p1 came out EVERYONE was trashing on Miguel cause he lost. What do they expect now
@rashidamcneil208
@rashidamcneil208 9 күн бұрын
​@@Zeuxon651 Robby>>>>Miguel Part 2 if they fought Miguel>>>>Robby Part 3 my question is why did they make Robby the captain if they knew Miguel was gonna win I love both characters and look how far they have grown as the main characters Robby should have won in S4 IMO but now yall can shut up about saying this and that and Cry Robby fans and Miguel fans are annoying
@Drizo_12
@Drizo_12 9 күн бұрын
1:14 self glaze is crazy fr
@Zeuxon651
@Zeuxon651 9 күн бұрын
Every Robby fan gonna be in tears when they see how p3 plays out. Miguel wins it all while Robby leaves trophy less AND a broken leg, and then becomes a chef. If you doubt this, check my community posts
@Bokesyck
@Bokesyck 9 күн бұрын
Average glaze
@Zeuxon651
@Zeuxon651 9 күн бұрын
@ it’s just the truth man , if you doubt it feel free to check out my community posts
@rashidamcneil208
@rashidamcneil208 9 күн бұрын
​@Zeuxon651 Robby becoming a Chef sounds stupid he is gonna most likely become a Sensei and the show has shown that bro
@Zeuxon651
@Zeuxon651 9 күн бұрын
@@rashidamcneil208 the chef part isn’t confirmed but the others are
@rashidamcneil208
@rashidamcneil208 9 күн бұрын
​@@Zeuxon651 yep I know
@KewlWIS
@KewlWIS 9 күн бұрын
people saying robby got packed or miguel cooked is crazy to me cuz almost every situation could have miguel and robby swapped and still make sense
@AarizHaq
@AarizHaq 5 күн бұрын
miguel wins in a street fight and robby wins in a tournament
@PuertoRican-EL
@PuertoRican-EL Күн бұрын
Kwon is not above Miguel. The thing with cobra kai is that the plot always nerfs certain fighters for the sake of story. Like Hawk for example being relative to Robby & Miguel in season 4, but then all of a sudden in season 6, he's below yoon. So miguel needed to lose to kwon so that robby can get his moment. And the reason why people bring up part 3, is because this is all one season at the end of the day. This part's stuff is irrelevant. So if miguel beats axel in part 3, It makes no sense to rank him below kwon
@Bokesyck
@Bokesyck 21 сағат бұрын
@@PuertoRican-EL 1. The plot doesn’t “nerf” anybody, that’s everyone’s #1 cope argument when their character doesn’t win, Miguel is just below kwon and Robby beats him, that’s not Kwons fault that the plot needed Robbyto win, doesn’t diminish his win, he didn’t pull up some secret move, he just is better. 2. Hawk didn’t get “nerfed” it was always explicitly shown Robby and Miguel have way more talent, he got ahead in season 4 cuz both of those guys lost nearly a season of training, and yet he’s only barely above. 3. I explicitly said “in part 2” meaning whatever happens in part 1-2 stays in part 2, u can’t bring the future part 3 (which is a timeskip) into this 😭. If I season “in season 6” then ur point would be true
@PuertoRican-EL
@PuertoRican-EL 20 сағат бұрын
@@Bokesyck Cope ? So you're telling me that Hawk wasn't nerfed by the plot against people like Demetri and Kenny? You telling me they were stronger than Hawk just cuz they got a victory on him ? Stop it bro. You know very well that nerfed by plot is a thing. So yea, I guess if you wanna go off strictly feats, we can place miguel below kwon and robby. But those of us that are aware of the plot nerf, we all know miguelito is the best of the 3 🤷🏽‍♂️
@xoxo_sof
@xoxo_sof 8 күн бұрын
1:38 (I know it's a joke but....) ngl you could say the show is Asian hating like Devon Lee for example almost always loses her fights with Tory and Sam and gets humiliated. Then Kyler gets bullied by not only Miguel but also Hawk/Eli and even DEMETRI so yeah... and don't get me started on Yoon and Kwon....💀💀💀💀
@iludhuka1211
@iludhuka1211 9 күн бұрын
ppl forget Robby was mentally nerfed and esp Hawk meat riders are always quick to saying “Hawk was nerfed” blah blah like sybau by that logic Robby’s lack of focus is also justifiable which it already is since it’s explicitly mentioned.
@Red.SkullYT
@Red.SkullYT 9 күн бұрын
Robby is better than Miguel, simple as that. Robby beat Kwon who Miguel lost to. Robby also beat Kwon in the brawl while Kwon had Yoon’s help.
@MinillaTheKing
@MinillaTheKing 9 күн бұрын
The glaze be going crazy stop riding Robby dick hop off
@Ajserpiente
@Ajserpiente 8 күн бұрын
Watch group a fight, And miguel isn't meant for kwon he's meant for axel
@Red.SkullYT
@Red.SkullYT 8 күн бұрын
@ Miguel got dropped by Kwon in the tag team match. Robby took on Yoon and Kwon at the same time and beat them both.
@Ajserpiente
@Ajserpiente 8 күн бұрын
@Red.SkullYT Miguel also beat Yoon and miguel was dodging all of kwons kicks and hits, If miguel fought kwon to 3 miguel wins
@Ajserpiente
@Ajserpiente 8 күн бұрын
@Red.SkullYT If miguel beat kwon in that match how would robby fight kwon💀
@Kobethornton1234
@Kobethornton1234 8 күн бұрын
Y’all also gotta remember Miguel probably tired from literally landing points against cobra Kai and carrying the sekai taiki befire kwon.. that was literally his only highlight was landing ONE point against an unfocused kwon😂
@Bokesyck
@Bokesyck 8 күн бұрын
They both had a moment where they carried their team but people seem to just ignore Robby’s moment. Also Miguel had days to recover from his other fights before tag team saying he’s tired is headcanon
@Kingjunior-c4j
@Kingjunior-c4j 8 күн бұрын
​​@@Bokesyckfax just because Miguel lost to kwon dosent make Miguel a bad fighter
@Wes_Bradley-Taubner
@Wes_Bradley-Taubner 8 күн бұрын
@@Bokesyck It's not even headcanon. It's just straight delusion. If Miguel's many points in the fights prior to the fight with Kwon were still tiring him out after the rest he had in between each match, then either the same can be applied to every other fight in the tournament (in which case Kwon and Miguel were equally exhausted), or Miguel just has the stamina of a 112 year old.
@Kobethornton1234
@Kobethornton1234 8 күн бұрын
@@Wes_Bradley-Taubner fax Robby barely had to fight bc he was always getting out.. kwon and Miguel was tired for sure with all that slimming kicking he does.. Robby got a stupid simp amp that made him score a singular point against an unfocused and enraged kwon
@AlastorWhy
@AlastorWhy 9 күн бұрын
I hate how they made it look like kwon can beat Miguel easy just for Robby loser ah to get revenge they made my bot look bad and Miguel beats Robby
@localricefarmer
@localricefarmer 9 күн бұрын
Cope lmao Robby just outperforms Miguel this season and you can’t cope this is just glazing at this point
@AlastorWhy
@AlastorWhy 9 күн бұрын
@ ya sure I wnat you to say that in part 3 WHNE robby loses and Miguel wins
@AlastorWhy
@AlastorWhy 9 күн бұрын
@@localricefarmer and in part 3 Miguel gonna outperform Robby by a lot
@rashidamcneil208
@rashidamcneil208 9 күн бұрын
​@AlastorWhy This Part 2 though bro of course Miguel is gonna be better than Robby in Part 3
@AlastorWhy
@AlastorWhy 9 күн бұрын
@@rashidamcneil208 ya but in part 2 Miguel also wins they made kwon beat him just for Robby to win like it made him look a bit weak
@pasoking2483
@pasoking2483 9 күн бұрын
Another angle is that Axel was more enraged when fighting Miguel than Robby. So that is interpreted that Miguel stood up to a more enraged Axel therefore more strength and damaging blows. I don’t take the Kwon argument because it is 1 point. Using feats alone, I would give the edge to Robby as of now. But Miguel just has that dawg in him
@22dn_editz
@22dn_editz 9 күн бұрын
I reckon that in season 1, miguel and robby are equal. Season 2 miguel is the better fighter. However, he only lost to robby because he did let him go and showed mercy ( im being really here, no glaze). In season 3 there's is absolutely no way miguel could be better than robby because miguel was in the hospital the entire time and couldn't land a kick. However, robby didn't train at all that season. In season 4, it was probably the season where miguel and robby were the closest, but if i had to say it would be miguel because hawk could never beat miguel and robby lost to hawk fair and square, miguel also carried eagle fang and only lost to having an injury so i would give miguel a slightest edge due to that. In Season 5 i think we all know miguel clears. Season 6 pt1 robby clears, Although miguel was overwhelmed with stress to get into standford however robby did win that fight being the first ever time he defeats miguel single handedly. In season 6 pt2 is also really hard but if i had to choose it would be miguel, he fought on par with axel and even though he lost to kwon he did carry miyagi do throughout the beginning of the tournament and robby does well towards the end but miguel would probably have an edge in part 2. In part 3 miguel wins the sekai taiki beating axel apparently 28-7 and if the rumors are true he clears robby in part 3. Overall miguel would probably beat robby in season 2, 4, 5, 6pt 2&3 and robby would beat miguel in season 3 and 6 part 1. They would both draw in season 1 without any physical or mental nerfs.
@MargaritaPizzaMan
@MargaritaPizzaMan 8 күн бұрын
I’d say S1-robby, All I’m sayin is go rewatch that fight Miguel had to injure Robby to win, Robby was handling Miguel with 1 arm. Many don’t mention that however, My guy lemme ask you? If you’re fighting someone who is crippled/has a broken shoulder & that person is keeping up with you in a fight & you constantly keep injuring their shoulder to win .. you think that makes you tougher than that guy? S2- Miguel. S3- I don’t count that for obvious reasons, Miguel was crippled. S4- Robby, they fought out in the open .. I don’t understand why people don’t bring up this fight. A fight is a fight they both were throwing punches. I don’t count when Miguel was swung into the pool .. if there wasn’t a pool right there, they would’ve got back to fighting. Robby pinned Miguel down & had the upper advantage .. he could have knocked Miguel out or something but writers didn’t take that route. But whatever it’ll give it a draw since Miguel was able to get up. S5-Miguel, fight came many times, both were trading shots & kicks but in the end he just kicked Robby ass. S6P1- Robby. S6P2- Equals. Miguel was cooking the entire time quite literally, even tho he lost to Kwon in a match so did Robby, however Robby came through in the end & beat kwon & 2v1 both kwon & yoon in the brawl. Even tho Miguel & Robby both lost to Axel. Robby was able to block axel’s attacks where Miguel was fighting axel the entire brawl & blocked him a few times S6P3- Hasn’t come out yet.
@yaboieric9648
@yaboieric9648 8 күн бұрын
factssssss
@Nrr0501
@Nrr0501 9 күн бұрын
The funny thing for me is how there are so many people that legitimately think Miguel is better without glazing. I just don’t see it. And they base it all of the 2v1. Don’t get me wrong that was awesome, but it’s literally Miguel’s only feat. Robby, Kwon, and Axel all have more and better feats than Miguel this season yet they don’t get hyped for some reason. I really like Miguel’s character and I admit that he has generally been better than Robby, but this season I think Robby surpassed him. I mean at this point Robby has way better feats this season, and we know that if either of them beats Axel it will be because Axel gets some kind of nerf. Another important point is that in the captain fight Robby was losing because he was distracted, but once he focused up, he dominated Miguel scoring three points in a row. Usually Miguel vs Robby isn’t onesided but this one was probably the most onesided (and S5 for Miguel). I like Miguel but I don’t understand people that say he is on the rise or that he is proving he is the best. I never got that impression this season. I only got that impression from Robby.
@KjEdits123
@KjEdits123 8 күн бұрын
I’m a Miguel fan but the actual glazers are so annoying 💀💀
@ysf_9is406
@ysf_9is406 8 күн бұрын
actor of miguel diaz said part 3 is for miguel fans so wait for pt 3
@callumebbrell9488
@callumebbrell9488 9 күн бұрын
Personally in my opinion, Miguel was not really locked in against Kwon as him and Robby ended up being friends again and Miguel trusted Robby to be the captain and fight the best fighter as I think Miguel is better when he is angry and Robby is the opposite as he is better when balanced and focused. Robby was able to 2v1 Kwon and yoon in a street fight, which is not comparable to and actual tournament with rules so Miguel performance against axel is ofc gonna be bad. But Miguel is probably underrated in terms of this ending fight not in rl terms but in the show as Miguel fighting style is very different toward everyone else like Miguel fight close and Robby and Kwon fights with distance, which makes them to perform better towards a big person. So it hard to scale rn but as of rn in part 2 Robby wins
@trevormandouma
@trevormandouma 9 күн бұрын
Their equals because of the writers statements
@HypocriticalWIS
@HypocriticalWIS 9 күн бұрын
The writers statement gets debunked by the feats
@trevormandouma
@trevormandouma 9 күн бұрын
@ no it’s the other way around
@HypocriticalWIS
@HypocriticalWIS 9 күн бұрын
​@@trevormandoumastatements are not above feats. Statements are just statements by the writers they can get debunked by the truth
@trevormandouma
@trevormandouma 9 күн бұрын
@Reverse_Goat_Wis the truth is what the writer says since they wrote the show And their intention when making part 2 was to make them equals
@HypocriticalWIS
@HypocriticalWIS 9 күн бұрын
@@trevormandouma no it doesn't. It still doesn't disprove Miguel's worse feats against opponents. If the writers say S1 Miguel>s6 Robby that is objectively wrong since the feats debunk that. + The same writers said that Miguel had not surpassed kk3 Daniel yet so it's wrong lmao.
@TursEdits_
@TursEdits_ 9 күн бұрын
“B-b-but..El Serpiente Is the best🥺”🤓
@football-editzzzz.
@football-editzzzz. 9 күн бұрын
lmaoo i love it when they do that
@Comicedits39
@Comicedits39 9 күн бұрын
He is tho
@Zeuxon651
@Zeuxon651 9 күн бұрын
Wait till p3 buddy 🤣
@football-editzzzz.
@football-editzzzz. 9 күн бұрын
@@Zeuxon651 gng ik its gonna happen im just saying we never know its not 100% till we see it happen
@Zeuxon651
@Zeuxon651 9 күн бұрын
@ dude, if you still believe it isn’t happening I’m gonna post another pic which I have which will confirm everything
@Goalflix9
@Goalflix9 9 күн бұрын
W
@sir_mystic4127
@sir_mystic4127 9 күн бұрын
The Kwon win was set up for Robby in my opinion but none of this matters anyway, you can have it, and this isn’t an argument it’s just stating what’s to come, Miguel will just automatically scale above anyone since he’ll beat Axel
@whoeditzfr
@whoeditzfr 8 күн бұрын
Facts i said the same
@shadowfighter3100
@shadowfighter3100 8 күн бұрын
S6P1-2 Robby wins S6P3 they’re equals
@Comicedits39
@Comicedits39 8 күн бұрын
Nah Miguel Slams In Part 3
@shadowfighter3100
@shadowfighter3100 8 күн бұрын
@@Comicedits39 writers said they’re equals, can’t argue with that
@tygollan4790
@tygollan4790 9 күн бұрын
The footing argument is a bit much as Miguel was in a brawl against axel and everyone is in the way Wheres Robby and axel were fighting tournament style more efficiency for movement and footwork I personally feel they are equals in part 2 both had there moments 😀
@Bokesyck
@Bokesyck 9 күн бұрын
Keeping your footing is important even in a tourney match, ask anyone who’s ever fought
@tygollan4790
@tygollan4790 8 күн бұрын
@ yes but my point is it is harder for Miguel as everyone was in the way for him to place his footing well and yes in competition footwork is important I understand we will see in part 3 how well Miguel does 😀
@Abubaker78611
@Abubaker78611 8 күн бұрын
The thing is I'm miguel fan but when it comes to robby vs miguel back then easily miguel wins this this but now robby takes the win because when miguel fights robby unfocused it makes robby look terrible but when robbys fights focused and locked in he makes miguel look easy
@GoofyEditsYT
@GoofyEditsYT 9 күн бұрын
Robby/Rovi was a mopey bum the entire season but still beats Miguel this season. W video
@aadilelamkulath7594
@aadilelamkulath7594 9 күн бұрын
robby is better because he got an amp towards the end while miguel was fighting normally the entire time
@andrewscoufis3003
@andrewscoufis3003 3 күн бұрын
its plot miguel lost to kwon so robby can beat him because they have a rivalery like robby will loose to axel and miguel will win against axel
@InjusticeFr
@InjusticeFr 9 күн бұрын
Robby would be nothing this season part without Miguel 😭
@Bokesyck
@Bokesyck 9 күн бұрын
💀 ???
@Ajserpiente
@Ajserpiente 9 күн бұрын
​@@Bokesyck Bro literally motivated him the whole time without miguel they would be going home and it's the biggest tournament in the world robby needs to forget about tory and fight, That's what also makes miguel better
@rashidamcneil208
@rashidamcneil208 8 күн бұрын
​@@Ajserpiente Jon Hurwitz confirmed they are equal and looking at their feats Robby had shown better IMO Miguel carried though and was the goat but IMO Robby would win if they fought Robby beat both Kwon and Yoon who is objectively above the Dublin Thunder fighters and If I saw my girl oh the other team and betray my trust I would have been bumped out to bro Robby was mentally nerfed in the first half as well and the Actor of Axel statement said he was surprised that Robby was able to block as many attacks from Axel and he lasted about 60 Seconds in the process and Robby had shown to have better feats in the brawl that is just my opinion
@rashidamcneil208
@rashidamcneil208 8 күн бұрын
​@@Ajserpiente and Robby locked in has already been better ever since Part 1 locked in I am just saying Migoat is gonna he the goat in Part 3 though ❤
@Ajserpiente
@Ajserpiente 8 күн бұрын
@rashidamcneil208 Yeah and tbh people keeps talking about part 2 but if you wanna keep it real we're really in part 3
@theonlineninja4958
@theonlineninja4958 8 күн бұрын
Shouldn’t we also use some logic instead of just a one point factor of kwon over Miguel?. Robby and Miguel are going toe to toe in basically all their fights and if Robby is easily able to take down kwon and proceed to beat kwon and yoon it wouldn’t make sense for Miguel to be under kwon
@Bokesyck
@Bokesyck 8 күн бұрын
Key word you said “BASICALLY” all their fights, they don’t fight in part 2 so u can’t assume they would be equal. For also btw season 1 Robby would’ve clean sweeped barring the injury, season 5 Miguel cooked him
@MinillaTheKing
@MinillaTheKing 9 күн бұрын
Y'all debating rn I'm trying to figure out where the fuck the trailer for part 3 is at
@rashidamcneil208
@rashidamcneil208 9 күн бұрын
Fr the Marketing is Trash as hell
@Kingjunior-c4j
@Kingjunior-c4j 8 күн бұрын
​@@rashidamcneil208the creator said it will come out closer to the release date of pt3 dosent make sense tho
@AaronWalsh-o2i
@AaronWalsh-o2i 8 күн бұрын
And yall complain about the Miguel fan people when this is literally the reason no one can like Robby is because of yall Robby fans making excuses for Robby I’m speaking facts because I watch every season and analyze every fighter Miguel is literally better than Robby for two reasons one he is a true leader in part two Miguel is the main reason Robby was able to finally lock in and focus as for the Robby fought axel better the only reason Miguel was getting bodied by axel was because he’s anger towards him after axel pushed him over jealousy for sam if Miguel was using both offense and defense against axel and didn’t let his anger get the best of him he would have stood a chance but part two was focused on Robby and I get that but saying Robby is better than Miguel after one win against him is stupid listen season one Robby won because if he wasn’t injured he actually could have won season 2 Miguel won that he could have broken Robby’s arm season 3 doesn’t count because Miguel wasn’t fully healed and season 4 Miguel back messed up but season 5 Miguel won and the director already said at the end of season 3 that Miguel is the best teen fighter there’s no debating over that
@Bokesyck
@Bokesyck 8 күн бұрын
@@AaronWalsh-o2i u lost me at ur first sentence cuz u think being a Robby fan has smth to do with this
@kakarot3963
@kakarot3963 8 күн бұрын
The problem is Robbie's never locked in
@JellyEditz-lq8cp
@JellyEditz-lq8cp 9 күн бұрын
I can't the subtitle "Quan"
@football-editzzzz.
@football-editzzzz. 9 күн бұрын
its auto-generated by capcut i think
@chrisking3144
@chrisking3144 8 күн бұрын
Someone claims Kwon hit Axel was in the alternate footage not the real thing
@edits_rad
@edits_rad 9 күн бұрын
the sons of johnny are equals imo
@HeavyMetalShredder
@HeavyMetalShredder 9 күн бұрын
5:10 how is Miguel stronger if he has less muscle mass
@Bokesyck
@Bokesyck 9 күн бұрын
Because muscle = stronger is a myth
@HeavyMetalShredder
@HeavyMetalShredder 9 күн бұрын
@@Bokesyckthere is truth to that but also if like the difference is drastic then the guy w more mass has to be stronger
@danyal.w9162
@danyal.w9162 8 күн бұрын
Thats called having zero understanding of tv shows. You guys just d ride robby and ignore the facts. Go listen to what brandon said abt miguel and his fight. U dont even need him to tell u that kwon got into miguels head and triggered his captaincy issues. Also against axel miguel acc tried to fight him not he a coward and just stay on survival mode not throwing back at all. If i went at mike tyson in the ring tryna knock him out id get put in the hospital but if i jus held my hands up and did nothing back i could last a while. Simple common sense. Mig fan but imo using kwons fight is straight up bs to compare them. Anthonys landed on robby bef so has kenny on top of that kwon is so bad he lost to unfocused robby.. miguel can low diff unfocused robby whilst being unfocused himself. Miguel and kwon shouldnt be a debate and as far as robby goes ill admit its much closer than ppl think. Theres no obvious answer to whose better. Imo its truly close but if i had to pick id say miguel.
@danyal.w9162
@danyal.w9162 8 күн бұрын
My reasoning is that offense + defense combined which is what engaging in a fight is. Miguel did better. Think abt it when axel tried robby threw one punch and he got countered and took 5 back. Miguel and axel had some exchanges 3/4 of the main scenes we saw with only 1 being where he got dropped by the jab. Also when they held collars and axel threw him thats not surprising since axels much bigger and stronger and therefore thats a strength feat. Another reasoning is the captain fight which is the closest versions of their p2 self. Miguel despite losing 3-0 held his own against a fully balanced robby whilst he himself was unbalanced the whole fight and became even more unbalanced towards the end when it was 2-2 yet that last point went to extreme diff. If u have anything to debate that other than plot excuse mention it or go on and continue riding robby but just know that robby mid diffed a significantly off balance miguel whilst being fully balanced so imagine him against a fully focused miguel. We all know how much balance matters in the show.
@MCKSAINT
@MCKSAINT 8 күн бұрын
They all fought axel who is the best teen fighter but Miguel did better the kwon and Robby and since you wanna say Robby is better then Miguel in pt2 then Miguel is better then Robby in pt1 since he was unfocused aswell 😂
@rashidamcneil208
@rashidamcneil208 7 күн бұрын
One of the workers stated that Miguel is the most well balanced fighter in the show and he told sam no I need this
@MCKSAINT
@MCKSAINT 7 күн бұрын
@ one of the “workers” you say happens to be one of the creators and he said well rounded fighter
@rashidamcneil208
@rashidamcneil208 7 күн бұрын
​@@MCKSAINT i honestly don't think Miguel was unbalanced
@MCKSAINT
@MCKSAINT 7 күн бұрын
@ he wasn’t the writers confirmed it
@Supercheese2000
@Supercheese2000 9 күн бұрын
Axel’s probably weaker on part 3 because he caused Kwons death.
@HollyChilders-rl9jl
@HollyChilders-rl9jl 9 күн бұрын
I knew Kwon landed a hit on Axel
@Macakawac
@Macakawac 9 күн бұрын
Oh my Robby glaze😭
@MeatFaceGo
@MeatFaceGo 9 күн бұрын
1:38 all real
@BotNxsty
@BotNxsty 8 күн бұрын
So your saying Kenny and Anthony is better then Robby kwon would not clean sweep myiagi do look at the kick Miguel did to dude he was flopping like a fish on the floor and Robby was adapting to axel while miguel has to learn how to fight axel you glazing Robby what are you talking about about focused or not Miguel carried it's a tournament you got to be captain but not play your role 😂😂
@Bokesyck
@Bokesyck 8 күн бұрын
1. I don’t know where I said Kenny and Anthony is better but sure put words in my mouth. 2. They both had to learn how to fight axel so like idk what u saying 3. Youths using Robby’s worst moments and not highlighting his best, I could also do what u so and ignore Miguel’s good moments to say “he almost sold against Kwon bro” U have to discredit others to credit someone, I credit someone without discrediting another, we’re not the same
@fisayoosun3735
@fisayoosun3735 7 күн бұрын
Miguel beats kwon i can explain
@koru_op3354
@koru_op3354 9 күн бұрын
I just find it weird that miguel loses to someone robby can 1v2
@Macakawac
@Macakawac 8 күн бұрын
Remake this shi after part 3, you pmo
@Bokesyck
@Bokesyck 8 күн бұрын
Damn I’m so threatened 😐
@jacksedits315
@jacksedits315 8 күн бұрын
Yea but this is part 2....
@farhanhasin2210
@farhanhasin2210 9 күн бұрын
You can cry all you want..but we all know who's the El Serpiente....Miguel Diaz. Miguel is Cobra Kai. Let that sink in. Your boy Robby and all other kids wont be even in Karate unless it was for Miguel. My man started it all, showed the spirit, became the champion, broke his back, He wasn't even able to walk for God's sake. And then he rise again like a Phoenix, like a champ.. He is the El Serpiente. 🔥🔥🔥 He is "The" Cobraaaa Kai...
@rashidamcneil208
@rashidamcneil208 9 күн бұрын
Ok we get it ❤❤
@BenGrainger-g7j
@BenGrainger-g7j 9 күн бұрын
He didn’t cry about anything he made actual fair arguments
@farhanhasin2210
@farhanhasin2210 9 күн бұрын
@@BenGrainger-g7j 😂😂 P**.. Defeat doesn’t exist in this Dojo. No Mercy!!
@fedegrix9161
@fedegrix9161 9 күн бұрын
Cobra Kai Writer's Statements in Interview: And they both have something to fight for, and they're both a little bit on edge and, and off tilt going into that fight, because they're, maybe putting a little bit too much PRESSURE on themselves, and so I think we wanted it where okay like, you know they're both in a bad place, but at least Miguel has Sam there and has all the support, and Robby doesn't have Tory, so that's like why things start out the way they do, and then Tory comes in and you know, he gets his mojo back at his MOTIVATION (Motivation helps for Balance, which Robby got in Part 2 but Not Miguel and also probably because Robby knew the truth with kwon and Tory) and comes back, which FRUSTRATES, which puts Miguel MORE kind of off balance (means he was also unbalanced before) at multiple is WHY HE LOST, so it's like you think about it in those terms, but you know it's, it's all about what you want with the characters, and I think also there, because Robby coming second place a bunch of times uhm, you know it's, it's just it's an opportunity here for, for him to have this win, which usually we you know, the past time. They never said Robby was more unfocused. They just said Robby was a bit more OFF BALANCE which is very different, there is a difference between focused and Balanced, focused is a concentration on the fight while Balanced is used to balance the style and way of fighting to perform at your best, (the best version would obviously be both Focused and Balanced together and in addition Robby after Tory arrived had a little confidential boost (as he had against kwon, being that he was also a rival with Miguel and also had something to fight for, that is the promise with Tory while in S6 pt2 he didn't have the promise with Tory, and tory was no longer on his side in s6pt2. Miguel wanted to let Robby his moment when he fought vs kwon after he talked with Robby he only took care of him because he knew he wouldn't fight in the semi and final. The statement literally says everything. That literally proves Miguel is above and that he wasn't peak in captain fight and sekai taikai. It's not even important if he was semi focused or low focused or high, it doensy matter. The only thing to understand is that he wasn't at his peak and not even close. S6EP5S6EP9 In episode 10 Sam, Robby and Miguel trained and then only for one day so they didn't change at all it was like a pre-workout warm-up Round 1: 12 seconds Round 1 Miguel semi Focused off balance vs Robby semi focused little more off balance-Miguel Low diffT Round 2: 15 seconds duration Miguel semi focused off balance vs Robby semi focused-Little more off halance Miguel Low diff Round 3: 25 seconds duration Miguel semi focused off balance vs Robby Balanced confident-Robby Mid diff Round 4: 16 seconds duration Miguel low focused more off Balance vs Robby Balanced-confident-Robby Low difT Round 5: 50 seconds duration Miguel low focused more off balance Rage Amp vs Robby Balanced-Confident Robby High-mid diff Miguel off balance semi focused > Robby little more off balance send focused Miguel win low diff Miguel off balance semi focused > Robby off balance semi focused- Miguel win mid diff Miguel Focused Robby Focused Miguel win mid-high diff Miguel Balanced Confident > Robby Balanced Confident Miguel mid diff Robby Balanced Confident> Miguel Semi Focused Off Balance Raged mid diff
@jasonwilliams5475
@jasonwilliams5475 9 күн бұрын
Bro if you don't like miguel you can say it
@Bokesyck
@Bokesyck 9 күн бұрын
This has nothing to do with if I like the character or not. The fact u commented this shows ur opinion is based on personal bias
@jasonwilliams5475
@jasonwilliams5475 7 күн бұрын
​@@BokesyckBro your down playing Miguel in this whole video you can't be calling me bais when your bais this whole video was about you talking about robby this and robby that and your just down playing Miguel
@jasonwilliams5475
@jasonwilliams5475 7 күн бұрын
Yeah I know I spelled bias wrong
@FlexSTS
@FlexSTS 9 күн бұрын
Nah Miguel beats him Miguel beat Focused Robby twice
@anomalyrrrd
@anomalyrrrd 9 күн бұрын
When? And I'm talking about S6P2 versions, because their past versions are irrelevant to who would win currently.
@ArjunaPflug-y9m
@ArjunaPflug-y9m 9 күн бұрын
Axel>kwon>robby>miguel
@Bokesyck
@Bokesyck 9 күн бұрын
@ArjunaPflug-y9m Kwon > Robby is crazy
@RLB12
@RLB12 9 күн бұрын
​​@@BokesyckBro Kwon wipes the floor with Robby he won because he fought with rage
@RLB12
@RLB12 9 күн бұрын
You guys are Robby glazers aftet all Miguel is the MC
@rashidamcneil208
@rashidamcneil208 9 күн бұрын
​@@RLB12 Kwon had to Jump Robby with Yoon to still losing and Robby completely toyed with Kwon and bullied with Kwon bro and yes Miguel is the MC
@MvltimccnWis
@MvltimccnWis 9 күн бұрын
​@@RLB12💀
@Theghostgamer-r4r
@Theghostgamer-r4r 8 күн бұрын
glazers:ITS MIGUEL facts a angered axel who was barely tried beat miguel robby land a hit on miguel best feats besides kwon beat miguel who robby beat but later on beats the whole cobra kai dojo and kwon was barely suppressed and robby wasnt even trying so miguel>suppressed kwon>kwon>cobra kai>robby
@Sean749
@Sean749 9 күн бұрын
W
@gG51515
@gG51515 9 күн бұрын
Count ur days
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