biggest loop for me was that holliday is a spirit hero. even crankshot scales off spirit and not gun damage
@asmodeusr1578Күн бұрын
Holliday is really strong early game, but later on in the big group brawls she's a bit useless. The barrels don't do enough damage to really even warrant avoiding them later on it. She's gonna need a lot of build experimentation.
@pokecole37Күн бұрын
The max upgrade bounce pad can be really strong in brawls since it's a big AOE stun, but it feels a bit hard to set up sometimes in a way that's useful.
@MIAKRI-pi2bqКүн бұрын
Buy charges, I've seen a guy had 5 charges on barrels, literally imba.
@MuffinPirateXКүн бұрын
She's definitely not useless at any stage. Obviously she becomes less crazy when people have more health, but she also gets to the point where headshots reduce the passive cooldown and you can do it more so she keeps up fine if you keep doming. Not to mention the barrels + jumppads can also do a LOT of damage just on their own, Mikael just didn't really focus on them as much as he probably could've.
@hammer2302Күн бұрын
Upgrade the jump pad and barells first, use the jump pad to engage, before hitting them throw barells, with the impact damage and barells does a lot of damage.
@pow_dunxКүн бұрын
Her barrels kill horizontal momentum, so they’re really good against retreating enemies using stamina to get away. She’s also completely broken when paired with warden bc her barrel essentially guarantees a warden prison
@bodom11716Күн бұрын
if one more person says whats the plan im gonna freak out
@bogomilpetkov5985Күн бұрын
What's the plan
@bodom11716Күн бұрын
@bogomilpetkov5985 😭😭😭
@reishin6Күн бұрын
@@bogomilpetkov5985 to freak out obviously. did you not hear him?
@romand271Күн бұрын
what's the plan
@the_furiz78321 сағат бұрын
What's the plan
@thchrisКүн бұрын
Most owls share an innate ability to fly almost silently. Serrated edges along the owl's remiges bring the flapping of the wing down to a nearly silent mechanism it`s not a bug!
@Pekara121Күн бұрын
In my experience Owls don't blow up like a grenade
@thatbowuser3836Күн бұрын
@@Pekara121pretty common actually
@wormforhire15 сағат бұрын
@@Pekara121 you must not be from America
@WardpatientКүн бұрын
13:24 i love how the gray talon says unfair like his ultimate didnt snipe you from a different lane twice already 💀💀💀💀
@Pekara121Күн бұрын
Gray Talon players try not to be insufferable challenge (impossible)
@Mikacc123Күн бұрын
19:00 nice job Mr. Editor...
@or6060Күн бұрын
8:16 "dinkus boon" lmao
@Pekara121Күн бұрын
Take this boon
@or6060Күн бұрын
@@Pekara121 even after reading that, it still sounds like dinkus
@1clippedit643Күн бұрын
Here's Tip on how to use Barrel(Powder Keg) perfectly on close range Jump + 1(Barral Abilitiy) + Light melee trust me when you get the rapid recharge and use it on enemy this thing is broken Heres how i use the combo for it Use Bounce Pad land on Eenemy then they'll get stun and thats the time you're gonna use your Powder Keg 1 ability and enemy cannot escape that. It needs a bit of practice but hope you understand May be its a bug or no if its a bug then hope they'll fix it soon
@FoldPaperКүн бұрын
Good comms here!
@roniesantacruz9459Күн бұрын
Ok here some tech you dont know to make your barrels into a cannon backwards dash jump + 1 barrel and heavy melee. you can change the velocity of your depending on your momentum in air
@mmmmmmikeyКүн бұрын
not sure if anyone has already said this but holliday’s bullets are smaller than the other heroes, that’s why she’s harder to hit headshots with
@mouaidalkhalidi770418 сағат бұрын
Love your videos. Great content great info. Subscribed
@mouaidalkhalidi770418 сағат бұрын
Just dont like that you are not bebop main like me hahahahaha
@albertoshitsneeze1774Күн бұрын
18:02 the skeleton appears
@tinodragon9052Күн бұрын
silent bird again
@creeperithinkКүн бұрын
saw this comment the moment he got hit by it again
@pokecole37Күн бұрын
yamato in lane whiffing every ability and buying no defensive items wondering why he's dying lmao
@shuubi4945Күн бұрын
And what do u buy against a hero u never played against with 280 dmg in 1 shot with 1.2k souls ? Bullet armor as the only item? I underestimated the damage, otherwise i would have bought bullet shield items
@pokecole37Күн бұрын
@@shuubi4945 Extra health, resto shot etc there's a ton of items that give you bullet resist in lane. Also no need to exaggerate to make it seem more broken, he hits you for 40 damage then 190 more damage with the headshot which is on an 18 second CD. Plenty of characters have a ton of burst in lane especially Yamato but you know that. I'm not blaming you for getting owned we've all been there, I'm blaming you for being like wowee that's op when you're playing the most broken laner in the game.
@Wildcat12Күн бұрын
@@shuubi4945 Literally just green items. Extra Health/Combat Barrier/Bullet Armor are all relatively cheap. The real solution here though? Yamato should've recognized Holliday has a strong early and stopped trying to take ego trades. Yamato players are so used to winning every matchup with the alt fire spam it apparently didn't even occur to this one that she wouldn't auto win trades, that's why she lost. Should've just done what every other hero has to do against Yamato and played safe, or actually landed an ability if she really HAD to fight.
@shuubi4945Күн бұрын
@@cloke3076people are getting so offensive these days its insane, i never tried this hero in hero labs before or anything when mikael killed me first time i was above half hp thats enough usually to not die after like 1 shot.. he even reacted to it thats crazy, so did i.. and i took the smart decision to swap lanes after he killed me the second time and i was 2 k behind and we won the game, but i can see u youtube viewers are the better players , my bad
@PartOfWindmakerКүн бұрын
@@shuubi4945 just ignore them bro. Everyone including Mikaels know that 280 nuke in lane is insane. There will always be people like "why didnt you find the build that counters the hero you play against" and seem like thats okay
@mk7875Күн бұрын
Would be really cool for the Magician if he get for a gun model a money cell launcher, like the ones that people use for flexing, but it launches damaging little cards (not huge ones like Wraith`s)
@abinariКүн бұрын
Can’t wait for all the buffs and nerfs to come in. She needs a buff.
@mehemynxm6974Күн бұрын
Nah, she needs some tweaks, but if you build some spirit and crippling headshot/lucky shot, you melt people
@DustFR15 сағат бұрын
If you can hit a headshot lol@@mehemynxm6974
@Monkey-hg6rmКүн бұрын
I think Holliday is a spirit hero disguised as a gun hero
@SeikOsitoКүн бұрын
If you use Mystic Shot, would it be enough to proc Mystic Burst to combo with Headhunter & Crackshot? Pristine Emblem & Hollow Point could also help to burst their initial health
@LuizGustavo-xg3whКүн бұрын
do the combro with warp stone, do the jump then warp stone into the ground, then jump throw the barrel and melee, its ridiculous
@aa4a-a4Күн бұрын
I feel like holliday has some sort of firing delay. I find that shes way harder to hit shots with then geist, even after pristine emblem
@enhboldotgonbaatar248Күн бұрын
his 3rd skill should be triggered on the jungles and troops
@lagentity169717 сағат бұрын
Can some explain what makes certain characters burst, like i understand that with holiday its really just the crackshot that you should be worried about in lane but isnt that most heroes
@Gorapita16 сағат бұрын
If you look at a hero like Infernus for instance, his damage is pretty consistent. Or Haze, or even Wraith. They deal consistent damage with their guns thanks to their passives, or Wraith's cards which load with gun damage. The same can be said of Vyper, Ivy, Seven, Vindicta... Burst heroes like Holliday, Bebop or Pocket rely on 1 or 2 high-damage, usually high-cooldown abilities or combos to deal damage, and when those are no longer available, they become significantly less threatening. Of course you have to keep in mind that the burst/poke classification is a spectrum, not a binary, and can change from build to build, patch to patch, or at what stage you are during the game. It's mostly useful to know during the laning stage, what your laning opponent's kill condition is: do they want to whittle you down through consistent damage? Or are they waiting for one over-extension to be able to use all their abilities and burst you down from 60% HP?
@vital1114Күн бұрын
I have a theory that a lot of people are playing holliday wrong. I think you actually buy Crippling, swift, burst, berserk/frenzy, and spellslinger (not sure if spellslinger makes your 3 hit harder. if that isn't how the interaction works, then hs booster is better) and ricochet. Ricochet should be prio because your bullet effects on your 3 do indeed dupe, meaning if you hit one person in the head and one of their enemies is nearby, your 3 double dips on the -4 second cdr and in a team fight you can end up immediately winning if you hit enough headshots. Plus when your firerate is high enough (and assuming you're an aimer) you can really really do disgusting things to people that don't realize what they are pushing. You hit them in the head 5 times in 10 bullets (which fire very quickly now) and all of a sudden they regret. That plus after maxxing your barrels you can use them as way to scare people because once they understand what your dps can do, they realize getting hit by a barrel and being put into the air near you is basically a death sentence and they will avoid the barrel like it has a plague inside it. Also: I have confirmed that burst does no work with her 3. The wording on burst is written in a way that would allude to it working, but it does not sadly.
@jajuanbraxton7783Күн бұрын
If Ashe and Cassidy had a baby..
@sean19257 сағат бұрын
Been 99% sure since my first game that extra stam and extra health will be core items on like every hero, trade extra regen for healing rite as you want
@spoonmcforkyКүн бұрын
What's the plan?
@nikitawonkaКүн бұрын
Bro TRY RICOCHET+MAX 3[SKILL]. Every shot in head will be with boost damage =))
@critamine17 сағат бұрын
W editor haha
@hiramrichmond3341Күн бұрын
i get warp stone and fleetfoot for melee cancel in the air
@burritoranosaurus2704Күн бұрын
She is fun, good in the early but later on she really gets useless
@DustFR15 сағат бұрын
I love Holliday but she just isn't that good, hitting headshots is really hard, I found myself wondering if Mo had a head. This makes the T3 upgrade on her pretty weak as well because it is so inconsistent. I think her bullets need a bigger hit box or something like that did with the vindicta assassinate
@mingo1320Күн бұрын
jump + dynamite + melee better farm and use
@MuffinPirateXКүн бұрын
And there are really people dumb enough to think Calico is the most broken character out of this patch.
@smellypatel527221 сағат бұрын
Calico is actually really well balanced atm. Ran a spirit build and she dominated without being OP. Her 3 should be a more useful skill though. At the moment it doesn't serve much purpose and it's easier to rotate lanes without it than with it
@dudeguy334Күн бұрын
w
@Ermastic-pc2eh16 сағат бұрын
The main problem with her is how bad she is at farming. The passive doesnt trigger on creeps so farming takes forever, maybe you can get by with barrels and cold front but its always going to be worse at farming than someone like haze.
@apolarbear7758Күн бұрын
Play spirit holliday, much more fun imo
@Scytha86Күн бұрын
18:58 Just display one after another.
@williamrelueКүн бұрын
Yamato and seven are terrible matchups against holidays since they have huge noggins.
@nerdy625020 сағат бұрын
i played against infinite stun holliday... she jumped on you and spammed 5 barrels on you so you couldnt move at all ts was ass🤣
@DTog1Күн бұрын
christ on a cross that is OP 😂😂
@DoduszkaaКүн бұрын
On god?
@DTog1Күн бұрын
@Doduszkaa no kizzy bro
@andrewsk6898Күн бұрын
Her passive is op in the beginning but as the game progresses she begins to lose positions , her actual winrate is 41% currently which is the lowest lol
@ИгорьРубенсКүн бұрын
Is it really that hard not to take damage until the healing rite restores at least 70% of your health?
@wuhu0Күн бұрын
Torille
@THEonelikeantiher0Күн бұрын
First.
@kingsoflucis1939Күн бұрын
her bullets are really quick there almost hit scan thats why headshots feel to weird
@terribletimmy215 сағат бұрын
No they aren't. They're decently fast, but nowhere near the hero's that actually have fast bullet velo.
@Intestine_Ballin-ismКүн бұрын
Yamato players when they don't autowin lanes by right click spam: 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢