Mike Barnes KK3 VS Chozen KK2 / BATTLE OF THE FATES #1

[@steveharrington1444]

Chozen: "you disgrace my honor" Mike: "your honor is a joke"

[@epiccraftmine4976]

Chozen: "You insult my honor again...and I kill you."

[@adamkalaf6446]

Yea that's something they would have said too each other in the 80s 🤣🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@leoroemer6085]

Mike Barnes’ fight yells are aggressive and funny at the same time.

[@TheChosenOneProphecyEST1997]

Agree there! COME ON GET UP GET UP!!

[@gianlucaruggiero4064]

Does Mike Barnes only scare me?

[@leoroemer6085]

@@gianlucaruggiero4064 You’re not the only one.

[@iludhuka1211]

@Gianluca Ruggiero only Terry Silver scares me

[@skylerloggins4902]

Chozen would absolutely destroy Mike Barnes !

[@TheChosenOneProphecyEST1997]

Hard agree!

[@Dinetioneditz123]

Mike takes everything and negs

[@udyumeadi2527]

Mike: Tournament, Chozen: Street Fight/ To the death

[@TheChosenOneProphecyEST1997]

Chozen's odds are strong

[@amin_rulesandraps1984]

We haven’t seen Chozen in a tournament, so….

[@杉村敏子]

Chozen! Those who say Barnes, will stress the point of how Daniel wasn't able to land a single hit on Barnes until the end of KK3. This is true! HOWEVER, Chozen almost defeated Daniel within seconds hadn't it been for Kumiko's distraction. And still, Daniel got two more very useful lifelines later in the fight. #1 Miyagi telling him to step back, #2 The entire crowd (including Sato) reminding him of the drum technique. Chozen was clearly disadvantaged with no help and an unfavourable crowd. Without any of these distractions, Chozen would have won. Daniel did receive some words of wisdom from Miyagi in his fight against Barnes. However, Daniel did not have the entire crowd on his side, he didn't use a special move like crane kick, drum technique, or any other, etc. He went back to the very basics of Kata, which confused the living days lights out of Barnes. Chozen and Barnes are probably equal in terms of skill, but I feel Chozen has that extra in all other areas. The one thing Barnes did better than Chozen was intimidating Daniel. But I highly doubt a guy like Chozen, who isn't afraid of death, would be afraid of Barnes. In fact, I think Barnes would be scared of Chozen. Would Barnes fair well against Chozen? Yes. Barnes is a machine. But, Chozen takes the win.

[@castortroy7704]

This. People can't grasp Chozen and Mike Barnes fought two different Daniels mentally and physically.

[@tarjji]

Chozen was teaching US troops- men. Mike Barnes was beating up on 16-17 year-old boys. Chozen was taught Miyagi-Do karate which is based on focus, concentration, and accuracy. But he fought Daniel with anger and aggression which is why he was less efficient. Also, plot armor- in a death fight, if Chozen was dominating, he would've ended Daniel's life too quickly, so they had to make the fight close enough for Daniel to make a comeback. Mike Barnes power-level was all plot-armor. Mike had to be tough (so that Daniel would be afraid) to make the story interesting. He was national champion only because Miyagi-Do karate had not reached the US. KK2-Daniel would destroy Mike. Hell, even KK1-Daniel would beat Mike, I think. And it seems Cobra Kai didn't participate in national tournaments for some reason, so we don't actually know if Johnny would've lost to Mike. Chozen would beat Mike to a pulp. His chest alone would beat Mike.

[@AE-on7zj]

Definitely agree that Chozen would win. I think Chozen was a little unbalanced when fighting because of the Miyagi-Sato rivalry carrying down to Daniel and him, this made him seem slightly off his game. I believe, if Chozen was more focused and confident in his honour and skills, Mike Barnes wouldn’t stand a chance neither Tournament or Death Match.

[@handzofstone1152]

Agreed

[@gianlucaruggiero4064]

Mike Barnes was a skilled fighter and he was the only opponent Daniel admitted he was afraid of

[@gianlucaruggiero4064]

Mike Barnes is badder and stronger than Chozen

[@tarjji]

@@gianlucaruggiero4064 That's called plot-armour. It wouldn't be much of a story if Daniel wasn't afraid of Mike. Even Ralph Macchio said he didn't like Karate Kid 3 because the Daniel-character was diminished instead of advanced forward. He went from courageous hero to chubby coward. That's because the KK3 script was originally supposed to be KK2, and the Okinawa script was supposed to be the end of the trilogy with Chozen being the final fight

[@bilalkhares9337]

Mike would have beaten Daniel if he didn't deliberately lose points to hurt Daniel but Kimiko had to save Daniel from Chozen when she attacked him from behind

[@yhb2003]

Chozen knows where to hit you to disable. Chozen takes this one. Barnes is too hot headed.

[@NinjaStuart115]

It would be a real close fight. They are both so ruthless in their fighting style but I think Chosen is stronger so I think after a long drawn out fight, he will eventually have Mike down.

[@Mark-cf2zl]

Lol Mike low diffs

[@j.r.v.p_14]

I felt like had Hawk stayed in cobra Kai in season 3, he would’ve been similar to Mike Barnes. Both on the smaller side in terms of frame, but both are extremely ruthless and aggressive fighters, who aren’t afraid to bend the rules. I feel like Robbie in season 4 could be more of a Chozen type.

[@chriszone50]

@Julian Perilli Mike Barnes is 6 feet tall.

[@j.r.v.p_14]

@@chriszone50 i just meant more as a slimmer, lean and muscular build, I wasn’t worried too much about height

[@mightguy3118]

Mike is a bigger, stronger, more durable, more experienced, and overall better version of hawk.Hawk is a bootleg version of Barnes 😂

[@mightguy3118]

@Mike H He lives in Okinawa 💀 and Robby is in cobra Kai rn

[@blackmetalnazgul4519]

How about Next Karate Kid Julie vs Cobra Kai Tory. :)

[@TheChosenOneProphecyEST1997]

Oooh that could be a good battle up next! Which season of Tory though

[@blackmetalnazgul4519]

@@TheChosenOneProphecyEST1997 lets say season 2, cuz I think season 3 Tory would destroy Next Karate Kid Julie

[@TheChosenOneProphecyEST1997]

@@blackmetalnazgul4519 Season 2 that could be a good one! It's on the list!

[@blackmetalnazgul4519]

@@TheChosenOneProphecyEST1997 cool, can't wait to see!! :)

[@TheChosenOneProphecyEST1997]

@@blackmetalnazgul4519 keep your eye on the horizon!

[@bleedingcrystal4722]

The way the movies were written, Mike would absolutely destroy Chozen. The only measuring stick we have is how well Daniel did against one and Daniel couldn’t hardly even land a blow against Mike. It was so lopsided it was nearly comical. Do I think Mike was ridiculously written to be damn near Superman? Yep. Do I agree with the many fans that say the chronological order should be switched to make the death match with Chozen seem like Daniels greatest challenge? Absolutely, but that not what the canon story tells us. I can only speculate on whether or not Mike continued training at the level that Chozen has. Currently I have Chozen as the fourth strongest fighter in the whole series behind Mr Miyagi, Sato, and Terry Silver. Current Mike and Terry are obviously still wild cards.

[@handzofstone1152]

Daniel only struggled with Mike so much because his fear was holding him back. Once he got over it, he beat Mike easily. If Daniel had his shit together from the start, then he probably would've swept Barnes.

[@brazyfilmo3121]

@Mike H chosen 2021 would destroy mike 2021 tho due to him knowing all miyagi secrets

[@castortroy7704]

@@handzofstone1152 Not easily, but yes, I agree.

[@tomcarpenter7821]

Well, we just found out.

[@panaoutsios1990]

Chozen

[@biscuitboy6250]

I think Chozen will destroy Mike

[@alexcruz4268]

Chozen wins as he lost to Daniel due to his anger and Mike Barnes was destroying Daniel because he was using fear in order to get into Daniel’s head but once he was focused it was over so Chozen wins

[@cardgrey]

If Mike would of not been forced to win lose win lose he would of lost out right.

[@guapoguron9310]

Chozen was about to kill/slit Kumiko's throat with a balisong butterfly knife. he chooses death over dishonor and loosing, he will fight to the absolute death. hes his uncle Sato's right hand man and #1 student and he trains US military soldiers/grown men. trains in weapons and with Miyagi Do offense/defense. strength wise probably the strongest out of Johnny, Mike Barnes and Daniel and all the cobra kai teen students from the 80s. Chozen is arrogant, cocky but dosnt play games in his karate fighting, will go all the way to the death, no problem 👊🏾.. Mike Barnes is a karate badass and bully that beats up teens in karate tournaments and probably on the streets too before he turned it into a business (karate bad boy for hire) dont get me wrong lol Mike Barnes is super tuff strong karate fighter and I guess gives good beatings to teens,,, but if he fought Chozen in a street fight (not in a tournaments with rules/referee/point systems and patted mats) Chozen would cripple him if not kill him

[@Goldenbane]

At this point, I would rank all the characters like so: 1. Mr. Miyagi 2. Cobra Kai Season 3 era Chozen 3. Tie: Cobra Kai Season 3 era Daniel and Johnny 4. Mike Barnes 5. Cobra Kai Season 3 Era Kreese (I know it's strange to put him this low, but I really haven't seen anything out of him that makes me think he's better than any of the fighters I ranked higher) 6. Terry Silver (I know this is unfair, but at this point, I haven't seen much from him, but what I have seen, I wasn't impressed) Unranked: Mr. Sato (Didn't get to see anything from him. I know it's easy to assume he'd be up there with Miyagi, but without any fight scenes, I just can't rank him in good faith). Also Julie, just didn't see her fight anyone of any real significance. I know that's mean, but it's true. It's easy to assume she's around Karate Kid era Daniel though. Can't say where she is now.

[@TheChosenOneProphecyEST1997]

I agree with Sato heard hes good but hard to tell based on what we have. That's a solid ranking imo. Very much agree with you there!

[@handzofstone1152]

I mostly agree, though I would have it slightly different. 1) Mr. Miyagi 2) Cobra Kai S3 Chozen 3) Cobra Kai S3 Daniel 4) Cobra Kai S3 Johnny 5) Karate Kid Kreese 6) Karate Kid Terry Silver 7) Karate Kid Daniel 8) Karate Kid Chozen 9) Karate Kid Johnny 10) Karate Kid Mike Personally I don't believe Mike would've beaten Johnny. The only reason why people seem to think otherwise is because of his performance against Daniel, but Mike only did as well as he did at first because Daniel was overcome by his fear and was being held back. He beat Mike fast and fairly easily once he got past it. The other reason is that Mike was a national champion and all of that; however, going by that logic he should've beaten Daniel as well, but as we all know, he obviously didn't. Not to mention that Johnny never competed in a national championship. He only ever competed in the All Valley Tournament, where he became the champion twice. Plus he never lost to anyone besides Daniel, who Mike also lost to. So there's really not enough information to say that Mike would beat Johnny.

[@Sincityboyj]

It would be hard to compare it because you don’t know if Chozen has competed in a tournament setting or not. You can’t assume he hasn’t.

[@TheChosenOneProphecyEST1997]

He probably has. But given what we know Chozen is as ruthless as Barnes if not worse in terms of how far he will go to win past trophies Great point!

[@Sincityboyj]

I agree Chozen would be way more ruthless then Barnes.

[@anthonyalido9880]

Robby might be the next mike barnes but miguel in s4 will be the next chozen watch he will be ruthless but still have a good heart

[@xxx-funandtheories8337]

Chozen would beat the sh... Out of him😁

[@TheChosenOneProphecyEST1997]

Likely scenario

[@xxx-funandtheories8337]

@@TheChosenOneProphecyEST1997 Hi Buddy this is PG how are you? I have some great theory for you and you can do a video if you like to. 😁. It's about silver and Johnny and Barnes. Didn't you wondering if Johnny exactly knows about what happened in kk3? Well he must know. Either he was there or he saw the newspaper. It's strange that he had many fights and arguments with Daniel but never asked what happened and that Daniel is a two time champ right? Because there is something Johnny knows what would put him in a bad position maybe. He could know Barnes and therefore Daniel could think Johnny was in it too. He said he doesn't know silver but that doesn't mean he doesn't know what happened. And remember when Tommy said that kreese has always something up his sleeve. So kreese did something before. And why did cobra kai banned???? They just lost at kk3 but that's not enough to get banned. So there is more after kk3. Hope you like the stuff bro. Take care 🐍🐍🥋🥋👍👍

[@charliecummings4674]

What about season 2 Miguel vs Kk1 Jonny

[@TheChosenOneProphecyEST1997]

Season 2 Miguel? If so consider it on the list!

[@handzofstone1152]

Johnny

[@monke8053]

There used to be 69 comments, now there is 70! 😈

[@TheChosenOneProphecyEST1997]

MIZ: "AWESOME!"

[@orvaldurgumundson1809]

I believe that Mike would beat Chozen in a fist fight because he is just stronger and more aggressive.

[@TheChosenOneProphecyEST1997]

Fair

[@rus778]

No daniel was just so bad in kk3

[@orvaldurgumundson1809]

@@rus778 maby he was out of practice who knows

[@cardgrey]

You know something else to point out is Mike had how many matches and Daniel on had 1 fight

[@resurekt97]

the fallen vs Megatron maybe?

[@TheChosenOneProphecyEST1997]

On the list! Which version of Megatron?

[@miyagidoforever8450]

Chozen would win he knows more stuff

[@udyumeadi2527]

daniel kk1 vs Miguel end of season 1?

[@TheChosenOneProphecyEST1997]

On the list!

[@franciscopuentes6049]

Daniel would destroy him

[@Stefan_Milicevic2018]

​@@franciscopuentes6049nope miguel destroy Denny Boy

[@Andres-xd4wo]

season 3 Hawk vs season 2 Robby?

[@TheChosenOneProphecyEST1997]

On the list!

[@franciscopuentes6049]

@Mike H dude, all of your comments are just wrong..

[@theawesomeantonio4471]

I Believe Chozen Will Beat Barnes.

[@mightguy3118]

In a street fight chozen kills him.In a tournament mike easly wins.Chozen doesn't know how to hold back and earn a point then stop attacking or he'd lose points.He'd 7uck around doing life ending techniques in a tournament lmao he'd get disqualified

[@Mark-cf2zl]

Wtf Mike destroys Chozen any day in young version

[@nilehoruseus]

Mike would win

[@plotamations5364]

Johnny is Chozen on the streets, and Mike Barnes in a tournament. But Johnny is way stronger than both of them

[@hawkmanwalter4250]

Ok your completely off balance yes Johnny is very strong but Johnny has been training 4 5 years chozen has been training his whole life and lets not forget Johnny was trained by the weakest sensei in the karate kid universe

[@plotamations5364]

@@hawkmanwalter4250 Actually. Terry silver was the weakest. Also Kreese had fear. Johnny never showed fear

[@hawkmanwalter4250]

@@plotamations5364 Johnny showed fear in karate kid 2 and he showed fear when miguel fault dirty in the tournament thats cause he was afraid of himself because he chested in the tournament

[@plotamations5364]

@@hawkmanwalter4250 He wasn’t scared. He was worried. Not scared. There is a difference

[@franciscopuentes6049]

Lol no son

[@robintheking2199]

😡

[@billynelson8315]

Chozen