Mike Rowe explains why more workers are 'quietly quitting' | Brian Kilmeade Show

[@henryyopp9094]

It's simple really, American workers have finally decided to give back to their employers exactly what they have been receiving...... the bare minimum.

[@shastollings1305]

well said! They would give less if they could!

[@orlenbrown4293]

They want Grade A performance for Grade D- Pay

[@RAMelancon50]

This comment wins! It sums it up so welI had to take a snapshot of it!

[@nino.lord.master8051]

THANK YOU!

[@MATTCOSSIN]

It's always been this way, to some degree. The difference is this generation of workers have no drive to work hard to achieve for themselves or their families.

[@dnkypnch7442]

I remember learning a hard lesson. I worked for a company for 7 years and I asked if I could have sundays off because I had no one to watch my kids. They denied it and told me I’d have to quit. We’re just a number at the end of the day unless you’re in corporate they don’t care.

[@user-mz1kt6iz4e]

Right. And they told you to quit, instead of firing you, so you couldn't even collect the unemployment insurance you have every right to. God Bless America!? Take pride in the job you do!?

[@gi4dtv]

Don't quit; let them fire you and call in sick on Sunday.

[@NazriB]

Lies again? Argentina Number One

[@hayward022]

I hated working with people who needed the weekends off for some lame reason while some of us had to work.them because we did not have kids or didn't have some stupid religion to follow. You guys just wanted every weekend off period.

[@macgamer1973]

@@hayward022no business should be open weekends. An job shouldn’t force you work on Labor Day, a lot people died for that of rest. They didn’t died to make it a work day

[@1dcondave]

The concept of "quiet quitting" reminds of the old Soviet joke "We pretend to work; and they pretend to pay us."

[@treebeardtheent2200]

A lot of that nasty socialist stuff going around. A spreading infection. But I do like the expression: Don't shove your nose in another person's mess tin.

[@FellaMegaOld]

@@treebeardtheent2200 Just as infectious as capitalism

[@tommythetrain1945]

Great quote !

[@iam1smiley1]

Yup! I sell junk I find at the side of the road with free signs or buy stuff cheap to sell for a profit because it pays better to sell garbage than most jobs in my town. I own a nice house but haven't had a real job for 15 year's because there's no point.

[@FellaMegaOld]

@@iam1smiley1 I know someone who sells plants they dug out from beside the freeway $20

[@vondilly5988]

We’re tired of being overworked overtaxed and underpaid. It’s that simple.

[@AVercetti]

For me it’s underpaid and dealing with bs

[@jesusislord3321]

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@matthewgardner2144]

@Nnam Git that gubmint cheese, gurl!

[@buddymartin7923]

The overtaxed part is absolutely correct. You can, by and large; thank democrats for that

[@shedrickwallace9363]

That over taxed part hit deep.👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@wherethe2riversmeet628]

I spent 23 years at my last job. Started at the lowest rung and worked my way up. Worked nights, weekends, holidays, got called on my days off, did a good job for the company. After those 23 years of wacky schedules and mediocre pay, I left. And other than my direct coworkers, no one at the corporate level cared. Im a big believer in hard work and loyalty, but I found out the hard way we’re all just a body and when we leave, another body will take our place. So work hard and be a good worker, but when an opportunity comes along that will better your situation, go for it.

[@Jay-vr9ir]

So true .

[@jelaninoel]

And this is the difference between your generation and ours. We would have left WAAAY before 23 years of that nonsense. That’s crazy

[@johnmadsen37]

Yes. Be active in your career. Leaving it to someone else is a reflection of low intelligence and laziness. We work for money. If we can enjoy it, we are lucky.

[@cloviepounders6703]

Amen.

[@Devina210]

That's so sad, but so true.

[@katiebythedoor1121]

When companies hire new employees at a much higher rate than they pay their faithful employees that made the company prosperous, it does not instill a good atmosphere for all.

[@smelltheglove2038]

Yeah? An issue I always run into is that there are a bunch of elderly guys in the higher up positions, and us guys in our thirties and forties are stuck never moving up. These boomers refuse to retire. They pulled the ladder up behind them!

[@fatefulryuk4886]

I’m going through this right now. Been working my butt off through the pandemic and now new hires make 5 dollars more than me and I’m the one that’s having to train them. Been looking for another place of employment for a while now.

[@truther001]

@@smelltheglove2038 Not always true. Many corporate and government workers are forced to retire before their retirement date in order to save on pension obligations. Why do you think 80 year old grandpa is working at the local supermarket?

[@smelltheglove2038]

@@truther001 they’re working at the supermarket because they were dumb enough to buy into FDRs social security Pyramid scheme.

[@EDHBlvd]

THIS!

[@tanindunn8379]

I'm 41. I've worked in manufacturing/ warehouse, most of my working life. It's not one thing causing people to leave the workforce, it's a multitude. We're overworked, and underpaid. Breaks have gotten shorter, completely disappeared in some cases. 401k's are to market dependent to be worth anything, especially in todays climate. Insurance is usually expensive and doesn't cover enough to justify the cost. I've had companies running me 80 hours a week straight for months. Who wants that? I'm a father, and now a grandfather, I don't want to spend 12, 13 hours a day enriching someone else, while I get to miss out on what enriches me. Companies take advantage of their workers, have been for years. It gets old, and kids grow up watching it happen to their parents..... and then what? We expect them to grow up and want to endure the same? That's absurd. The corporations have done this to themselves, and I for one have no sympathy for them. I mean, there was a time when a man could go to work, his wife stayed home, and he made enough to support his family, live a decent middle class life......... now both parents work, and people struggle to obtain, and or, maintain a middle class life. The people, the workers, didn't do that, the corporations did. Oh, plus, we keep bumping the retirement age up, because apparently working up until you actually die is expected now..................

[@pettyofficer30]

100% correct!

[@donnaknudson7296]

I know. There was a time when hard work payed off. Now too often it doesn't and people are supposed to be happy about it. Having two parents work (two workers for the price of one, they really made off well with that deal) sucks the energy out of people and familial bonds and we wonder why there are so many divorces and unguided kids.

[@pettyofficer30]

@@No._1_Karen I work 10hr days and get a 10 minute break at 9am and a 30 minute lunch. No afternoon break

[@alanlight7740]

In fairness, the retirement age used to be lower because the workers could be relied on to die younger. One of the reasons why workers are paying more and more into social security, even knowing it won't be there when they themselves retire, is because people are living much longer than was anticipated when it was first established. It's also because it's by its very nature a Ponzi scheme, but if people were not living the longer the increase from the original 2% of worker pay to our current 12.4% of worker pay would have been more than sufficient to keep the program fully funded.

[@BurtSanders]

@@No._1_Karen you have to way the pros and cons and ask yourself, is the job worth the wage.

[@rudistorm3348]

I think Mike Rowe has diagnosed half the problem. Yes workers are less motivated but also companies do not treat employees as well as they use to. There is no loyalty on either sise and that is the true problem.

[@Drilling249]

Well, they expect perfect loyalty from their workers while offering them none in return.

[@linkbelt111]

@@Drilling249 We just don’t live in a “loyalty based” world anymore, unfortunately.

[@drag0784]

2 weeks notice required if you quit, but hey, your fired. Today.

[@daviddreher8588]

When it comes down to it, most corporations don't truly care about their employees. You are just a number in their financial equation. They all talk a great game on All Hands calls, and in team meetings about how "we're all in it together" and they are like a "family"...but if the economy starts to look uneasy, they layoff because that is a fast and easy way to make numbers look better to their shareholders/stakeholders...because THAT is who they answer to. Good employees with families and bills give and give to a company helping the them grow, but when it's time to wait out a dip in the economy they can't float a few hundred or a few thousand people for several months?(depending on the size of the company). Corporations have Zero loyalty to you...and more people are finally realizing it.

[@cremepuffle]

Why is it bad to not be motivated about this? When we see what we will have to go through to be able to sleep with a pillow and eat for than ramen and rice? It’s reasonable to lack motivation over this

[@arhzee3310]

The corporate mentality has created unhappy employees by creating an unhappy work place. I’m 62 and self employed. The day after I graduated high school I went to work full time for a small company. Everyone was treated like family. I worked there for over 28 years. I left after the owner let outside management come in. The job was no longer a place I enjoyed going to every day. This is what’s happened across the country, small business’s being bought out by large corporations that only care about the numbers, not the employees.

[@Ryan-zv6xw]

This is part of what is being missed in this interview, the nature of employment has drastically changed.

[@BrotherK-ex2co]

@@Ryan-zv6xw it's more like torture than employment

[@jimmyz2098]

Sometimes that's true. And I do really think it's getting harder and harder in this country. Something we as a society needs to be looking at. But we must not forget personal responsibility, and our decisions, either.

[@markp.7165]

@@jimmyz2098 Good post!! Show me a husband and wife who both work but can't make ends meet on a regular basis and I'll show you someone that doesn't know how to budget or say No to un-needed expenses.

[@Gtmustangmt]

The railroads have been doing the same thing and it is no longer a place people want to work..

[@MrFreeGman]

You wanna know why people don't want to work anymore? It's because on an average wage, for the first time in modern history, we can't be home owners, we can't have more than one kid, we can't have a cottage or a getaway cabin, or own any land for ourselves. We work to rent, we work to lease, we work to subscribe; we work for the privilege of living to see another day, all the while the profit margin of our bosses goes through the roof and the income gap continues to grow by the year. We own nothing, and we're not happy. My dad worked an average job and owned a house by the time he was 25, with two kids before he was 30 and a stay at home wife to raise their kids properly. Today, in the same city, I'd need to be in the top 10% to have what he and nearly everyone else had. The economy is being destroyed, the family is being destroyed, and society is being destroyed as a result.

[@noahgoyette467]

APPLAUSE!!!!!

[@cybertrk]

They won’t read this… and if they read this they’ll ignore it… and if they don’t ignore it they’ll dismiss it and then spit out some unrelated theory of laziness, etc to demonize those struggling to express a truly unhealthy outlook.

[@kdog440]

Deep!

[@dutube99]

@@cybertrk who is "they"?

[@josieblue1686]

@@dutube99 They, are the people who made and participated in the video.

[@dmacarthur5356]

After 30+ years busting my backside and going above and beyond at my job I came to realize this. If you are a hard worker the boss will keep pilling work on you instead of a slacker. The boss knows the job will get done on time, with good results, and no supervision. If he has to deal with a slacker then the boss has to put effort in to make sure it's done right and on time. I just got sick of seeing slackers not being asked to do anything or have anything expected of them because management is lazy. They get paid the same as I do but I have to do twice the work.

[@AnalyticalReckoner]

Yep, middle management are the laziest people usually and piling more work on the over acheiver makes their job easier.

[@JM3jUiCe]

My dad used to tell me that. He was right! Your post proved it.

[@reneem4983]

Facts

[@get8bit]

I run a business. If you're being assigned work, it means they really need you. Those slackers are going to get fired. Most biz owners fire the bottom 10% every year. Just ask for a raise if you feel you earned one. If you're valuable, I'm sure they'll want to keep you around! Best of luck to you, and keep up the good work!

[@joseduran7368]

@@get8bit pffffff yeah right

[@solblackguy]

Workers are finally giving their employers the same amount of respect they've been given over the years and it's a beautiful thing. Turnaround is fair play

[@eatmeskivys]

Maybe if people had the education where it's what you do for them and not what they do for you

[@jon6309]

@@eatmeskivysreally??I think it’s a two way street and the phenomenon is just a way the market is correcting itself whenever there is unbalance. Most managers are lazy and will tolerate a quiet quitter because they don’t like the hassle it takes to find another employee, retrain them and possibly experiencing the same vicious cycle over and over again! It’s arrogant and unrealistic to think one has more sway than the other. Workers need managers to have jobs and managers need workers to get the job done. Just like a landlord needs tenants to rent their home or faces vacancies and lost income without their tenants! Finding new workers or tenants are not permanent solutions if the same thing will happen.

[@onlinebrown8615]

He'll yeah

[@AndrewBurbo-zw6pf]

if you do the minimum you should be earning the minimum.

[@solblackguy]

@@AndrewBurbo-zw6pf I think you got that backwards

[@luvillan4641]

In the last 10 years, I’ve worked for a fortune 300 company. Currently a store manager. I can tell you right now, it’s never enough for these corporation. The push for more and more never stops and it feels like it’s never enough. It gets to the point where you get burnt out and you lose that “desire to wanna work”.

[@LouCabaza]

Too iio

[@greensorrel6860]

Absolutely they always want more and more bigger profits for their shareholders that is the goal and doesn’t lead to a good place for humanity

[@davispatricks5453]

@@greensorrel6860 that greedy focus on ever-increasing profits also means that corporate leadership have no incentive to invest in their employees by giving them pay rises even when they do go above and beyond or work harder and longer than what their contract requires.

[@Marylou7204]

And there’s no reward no matter how you work. These examples that these two gentlemen are throwing out, are in industries that there’s rewards for excellence. Yes, you’re excited to start a new job, you’re excited to show them what you’ve got, what you can do, and then, after a decade of working and pushing for excellence every day, you wake up and realize that you’re still getting paid the same as you were, and you now have half a grand more in expenses every month, and no chance of advancing to a higher pay scale.

[@rejectionistmanifesto8836]

Dont fall for these Globalist pseudo Anti-American shills who turned their back during the "2020 election controversy". Young people please don't start a family or get pregnant at this time. Companies/Government/organizations have no loyalty to employees they will turn on you in a second when its convenient and fire/replace you. Governments are also increasing authoritarianism while helping the Globalist elites to consolidate all wealth/power. To ensure no slavery like life, girls should remember to take the birth control pill daily and both guy/girl should use protection and consider Tubal Ligation which is a quick procedure. You will just condemn your new child to increasing poverty and freedomless slavery and these control/money/job trends worsen. The system in all countries ks getting worse now and children born now will suffer. Imagine your child living in a technically advanced meaning more brutal total surveillance Communist or dictatorship style society as that is the planned future if you choose to have kids. So by having children you are purposely causing them to be born to a life of suffering for your own selfishness in a way.

[@snickymike7628]

The work ethic went out the door when the ability to become successful and retire went out the window.

[@TorqueKMA]

Boom. The old trope of "climbing the ladder" is garbo. Today, the trick to climbing is job hopping and earning as much as you can as early as you can from whomever you can.

[@secretagent4610]

So much of life is about incentive vs effort/pain, risk vs reward.

[@galaxietab2carlos]

my retirement plan is the literal collapse of society.

[@mauriciogarcia5920]

@@galaxietab2carlos same

[@Talkwithtina808]

Exactly!!

[@k_martin14fitness]

As someone who works for a small office, I take pride in my work. But as people in this small office retire, they are not hiring new employees to replace them, they just dole out their job to the remaining employees without added compensation. This is where part of the problem lies.

[@MNP208]

Word!!!

[@taylorbell6435]

Yes and the companies that have the revolving door have zero benefits, pay not good enough to feed grown adults and trash hrs to make the necessary Pay😭😭

[@z-lowkz1758]

Dude I was closing a fast food place (cleaning ovens, fryer, changing oil in fryer, floors, cleaning all utensils and area where they kept warm food, then putting them all back clean where they belong, all trash out & there’s like 6 large bins , all glass cleaned) and most of the time I was solo or if not with a obese old lady who couldn’t do much besides mop, and they paid me minimum wage and gave her a raise….

[@rgrcooper]

@@z-lowkz1758 That's BS

[@remnant1018]

YES!! This right here. When I joined this department, my coworkers repeatedly told me about the olden days when they didn’t technically have a manager, there was one analyst, the job had two units of employees with each specializing in their particular function, and it was like 12 employees. Now there is one unit doing all functions. There are three bosses, multiple analysts, two workers, and the trainer does what we do when she’s not training. They could’ve hired more workers yearrrrsss ago. Instead they’re picking at how we two (three) do our work because we can’t keep up with inventory *coming from the whole state* and people are getting angry.

[@honorableundead2273]

I learned that being loyal to a job is a good way to get nowhere fast. I work for whoever pays the most and irritates me the least. Loyalty doesn't put food on the table anymore

[@carpenoctem775]

💯

[@debblouin]

Neither does apathy or resentment.

[@Johnny-Utah-91]

@@debblouin right because employers are loyal to you like family and friends

[@joesanchez9811]

Ramen is still food.

[@Melissa-xz8ss]

👍 "Whoever irritates me the least"

[@skival]

We used to feel like we were working towards something...a home, family a good life. That doesn't seem possible to many anymore. Why work hard if you will have nothing to show for it?

[@reidsimonson]

In the 50s with a high school education, you could get a job, buy a house, a car, have kids while your wife didnt work and have a very successful life. Now, even with everyone in the family working you can barely afford a one bedroom apartment. Let that sink in.

[@Jules279]

@@reidsimonson All part of the NWO that has been in motion for a century.

[@Mark-pb8kj]

Yeah you guys should start researching Klaus Schwab, the WEF, and then you'll understand why this is all happening

[@ryanlynch290]

@@Mark-pb8kj Just go to their website. It's all laid out there. I've watched a good amount of his footage. The sycophants he has around him is astounding.

[@alfonsocastillo7815]

Exactly

[@LqdSanity79]

If one employee works hard and another employee hardly works and they both get paid the same, then YOU can be the one that works hard and I'll play on my phone all day. If I work hard and show initiative only for the lazy bafoon to get the promotion, then I'm not working hard anymore. If I have to stay late so the boss can take all the credit and get a nice bonus, then I'm not working hard anymore. If I get yelled at for taking a bathroom break, then I'm not working hard anymore. If employees get laid off while management get raises, then I'm not working hard anymore. There are a lot of reasons why people don't want to work anymore and laziness isn't necessarily at the top of that list. Treat people right, pay them fairly, reward hard work, fire the deadbeats, quit micromanaging every aspect of their day, and maybe things will change. In short, start valuing hard work and people will start working hard.

[@sdmcdaniel2255]

absolutely... It used to be that companies valued their employees. Now the only seem to value the bottom line.

[@davidmahoney3804]

Well said 👏

[@-redacted_by_youtube]

There are some companies that pay pretty good and treat people right. Sadly there are way too many that do not. They want robots.

[@billiejocowell3242]

I’m going through this right now, I’m doing exactly what you wrote about. And my raise is coming the deadbeats are either quitting or getting fired. Hard work does pay off.

[@dianepereira1860]

Exactly. You pointed out all the major points perfectly....we'll put!

[@kratz57x]

Anyone who has EVER been to the DMV knows "quiet quitting" is not new by any means.

[@userl4and444]

so true

[@feffygracie]

Yup. Lol

[@MrClobbertime]

Don't remind me, I have to renew by car tags this month.

[@Davidbmr1970]

That applies to the preponderance of government offices.

[@fordtechchris]

Zero Fox Given

[@uprebel5150]

"Quiet Quitting" has always existed. Thirty years ago I had a class in college titled "Some People Quit and Leave, Some People Quit and Stay".

[@jasonfreak99]

Exactly. It pisses me off that old and irrelevant people have the balls to call out an entire generation for not working.

[@Kaptiv8edme]

100%

[@EmilyGloeggler7984]

@@jasonfreak99 Some also don’t quit and die. The workaholics or ignorant blue collar people don’t like to admit that truth.

[@rudestbeast4907]

we just called it professional slacking

[@seymorefact4333]

🇺🇸 why work for the 1%? To pay taxes and the wealthy pay ZERO! To earn 1970s wages. To be enslaved for expensive Healthcare and have nothing for retirement. To make the 1% and their children live in freedom for eternity! While my family works 2 to 3 jobs to survive and be in DEBT. F THE 1% AND CORRUPT GOVT.

[@JuanM254]

"The reason they call it the American Dream is because you have to be asleep to believe it." George Carlin

[@Nina-vv3ev]

LOL yea

[@russellm2555]

A multimillionaire joke teller that didn't believe in the American Dream? Now that's a joke

[@shawnhock884]

@@russellm2555 THIS!! You beat me to it. Lol.

[@Rattus-Norvegicus]

@@russellm2555 Carlin had eyes, he could look around and see that he was an exception.

[@jesusislord3321]

Wow, I like that quote...AND....it is so true.

[@peternorthrup6274]

I'm retired worked in a trade 39 years. 5 different companies. 4 states. Each and every time once the company reached a certain sales level it was sold to investors. They borrowed the money from Wall St. In less than a year hundreds of people were layed off. Stripped the company off there sales. And shut each plant down. All in the name of greed. There is no such thing as loyalty anymore. I was very fortunate to be at craftsman level. I could go anywhere. But the hundreds of others that were put on the street had kids and all that goes with that. Could not move. I retired at 55. I was done with all the greed. Never trust anyone in the corporate world. Always live within your means. And be prepared. Good luck.

[@dixiegirl999]

That's why everyone no matter what they make needs to stay out of debt if possible. No job is secure anymore.

[@jayh1734]

You are exactly right. Me too. 55. Corporate greed and the politicians who work for Corp have ruined everything with their money funnels

[@samueljackson6188]

You said brother, there is no such thing as loyalty. That’s why you make your own fortune. The old model of the 1950’s no longer exist.

[@toddbrooks2063]

Be prepared . The Boy Scouts motto !!

[@toddbrooks2063]

@@dixiegirl999 I have no credit cards and no debts . I pay as I go . If I don't have the money for it I don't need it .

[@RJ-sq8hn]

They're missing the whole point. The point is; - no I won't answer my phone past business hours unless you're paying me. - no I won't come in on my days off, due to poor planning or failed procedures. - no I won't do my job and someone else's because you want to save on labor. Unless you want to pay me my rate plus the rate of the job you're having me cover. - no I won't put my life on hold to be "on call" and get nothing for doing that. - I WILL fulfill my side of the bargain for the pay we agreed on. I will do nothing more, and nothing less. Should you want more, I expect more pay. I've worked my way up to a Plant Manager (salary) position for a fairly big company. I was paid well, but not close to what my predecessors made. I figured, I would take that pay now, as I am young and need experience under my belt. Nonetheless, I lost friends and missed many family events in order to move up. After I was promoted, I received so many calls at night due to machines breaking that I had to sleep on my couch so as to not wake my wife. 9/10 times I would have to get dressed to go to the plant at 2 or 3 am to help the third shift. Worse, I still had to do my 9am to 6pm shift even if I worked 2am to 7am to get production moving. I felt sick asking people to come in on their weekends to run production, because of machine failure. So I figured if I could come in, and get the place running faster, I would reduce the OT needed from my employees. I asked for capital expenditure to fix the machines, and I got told no. One weekend - the main machine broke, I stayed 54 hours straight (not seeing daylight outside of the plant) to help get this machine up and going. I did take a two-hour nap during that time. I tried the "hustle culture", but it does not work. I expressed to my superiors (VPs), after 4 years, that I needed to stop getting calls at night and coming in on weekends, as I wanted to return to school for a higher degree. "oh yeah go ahead and get more maintenance guys, we'll get you an assistant manager". Seven months later, no budget increase for maintenance personnel or an assistant manager. I quit. I got the response on my exit interview: "oh, we forgot you wanted to go back to school" Now they are dealing with the phone calls at 3 am. They are dealing with insane employee turnover rates. People are tired of being asked to do more when the company won't themselves.

[@briannamorrison380]

You are so right. What frusterates me is that there are people who will tell you to suck it up and stop whining, or go get another job. But there isn't going to be a better job to go to if people keep allowing employers to treat them worse and worse.

[@evalramman7502]

Thanks for that insight - seen examples of your past situation in various positions I've held.

[@freebird7284]

what a bunch of whinners

[@darrennew8211]

While this is common, it is far from universal. There are *some* bosses that will care for you for life, even as they move from company to company themselves, if you prove yourself to them. But it is generally *very* easy to figure out which boss is like that. You should be able to tell within a few weeks.

[@lukestrawwalker]

Yep and you can go the extra mile and do the extra stuff and it won't matter ONE LITTLE BIT when it comes time for "one hand to wash the other"... You'll get chewed out for staying over OFF THE CLOCK, or get hung out to dry when something happens or passed over because of politics... Just how it works. There has to be SOME INCENTIVE for going the extra mile or it's not worth it, in fact it just lines you up and singles you out to be used and abused and discarded when no longer needed or convenient. That's been my experience! OL J R:)

[@williamskohler8337]

Wall Street pitched so-called quality stocks with high profitability and low debt, as a kind of insurance against whatever the economy might throw at you. Quality stocks have underperformed the S&P500 this year, My $400k portfolio is down by approximately 20 %, any recommendations to scale up my ROI before retirement will be highly appreciated.

[@sheliaswelttk2535]

It’s precisely at times like these that investors need to be on guard against the next certainty. You don’t have to act on every forecast, hence i will suggest you get yourself a financial-advisor that can provide you with entry and exit points on the shares/ETF you focus on.

[@davidnewbury1721]

@@sheliaswelttk2535

[@gabriellewilson5625]

@@davidnewbury1721 wow ,that’s stirring! Do you mind connecting me to your advisor please. I desperately need one to diversified my portfolio.

[@davidnewbury1721]

@@gabriellewilson5625 My advisor is "Amy Priscilla Raskin" You can easily look her up, she has years of financial market experience.

[@wjjz8902]

57 years old...huge work ethic, driven for results, professional police, educated and experienced investigator...suddenly replaced by inexperienced newbies that fit the diversity equity and inclusion squads goal. Take the wind out of the sails much? Why put up with it? Retire.

[@IslandBuzzy]

Agree...

[@davef.2811]

Bingo!

[@slabbusterrtr7690]

Let them have it if u can afford it

[@philwood9760]

I knew a county mounty who quit being a le officer and became a truck driver. He told me that he went on a domestic violence call. He arrested man, and was putting him in patrol car when wife shot him (cop) in but. LE officers have a dangerous job where they have to deal with the scum of society and politicians. They all should be making $100,000 a year to start.

[@ramadantarantino4004]

Well, USA will soon become a non-white majority country, so this fact has probably something to do with all this.

[@trippyhippy67]

I work for a large food manufacturer, been there almost 20 years now. 20 Years ago we had production bonuses, we had safety bonuses, we had yearly raises, we had Blue Shield/Blue Cross Health Insurance, We had a 401k that the company matched, we had a 40 work week with optional overtime, we had a training program for new employees, we even had monthly employee appreciation luncheons, we had Christmas Bonuses.... Today we have a 60 hour work week plus mandatory overtime, no raises, no company match to our 401k, Obama-care Insurance with a $10,000 deductible, no Christmas Bonus, No safety bonus, No production Bonus, No training, no employee appreciation lunches... Our profits are higher than ever, but the company no longer appreciates or invests in its workers.. so no one wants to work there, its become a sick joke revolving door and management is willfully ignorant of how they treat employees has a direct bearing on employee retention.

[@dubreezy1992]

Sounds like my job

[@billh.1940]

Union anyone?

[@Yonder27]

I see this at grocery stores like (Fred Meyers) one or two at the most checkers with huge lines and they never open up another lane. Profits for the “SHAREHOLDERS” are through the roof and that seems to be all that matters. I quit shopping there because by the time I got home (a five minute drive) my frozen items were all thawed out. And I always got my freezer items last. They can raise prices until the cows come home but eventually they will have too few customers to stay afloat.

[@pattyb8904]

unfortunately this is the story for a lot of people and their jobs.

[@wtfhellas]

@@billh.1940 it helps but doesn't mean you're getting any bonus, or safety bonus etc.

[@mega54321]

Loyalty goes both ways. Employees in modern time are expendables. You work like a dog, make sacrifice to your own family and your health. All for what? Companies to make a record breaking profits? CEOs to gets huge bonuses, so that they can buy another mansion and go on a luxurious vacation? and you get discard like a piece of 💩when your service is no longer required? Nowadays, you don't grow with a company that you work for. Instead, company sucks your life dry while pretending to be care, spits you out, then look for a next victim.

[@redghost3170]

Very well stated.

[@ShotgunWizard]

Yuppp! And for some reason they always NEED to double their benefits from one year to the next, justifying YOU working harder and harder every year exponentially, like making millions in revenue every year isn’t enough. It’s unsustainable and drives employees to the breaking point but he! Don’t you complain, just be happy you still got a job (for now) Corporations are so great …

[@seadragon1456]

My husband works on a ship drilling for oil. He just hit 15 years. For the first 4 years he barely moved. He got one promotion. Years 5-7 he got promo after promo. Then the oilfield tanked and he lost bonus after bonus after bonus. Then pay cut, after pay cut, after pay cut. All while taking on the job of multiple people. Training people. He’s 35 and has trained 2 people that have now landed higher paying jobs than him. Matter a fact recently he was next in line for a drilling position and some guy that’s only been with the company a few years had connections (his daddy) and got the promo my husbands been waiting for for 4 years. Thank god we’ve been sinking all of his income into our house because he’s gonna throw deuces soon! Oh and what’s even more crazy is he’s salaried for 12 hour days. However he has to be at work 30 minutes early for meetings. And he has to stay at work an additional hour every week for another meeting. When he has home time they want him going to schools in Texas and Louisiana for a week. He gets 3-4 weeks home and they take take take. He used to work himself like a dog to prove he was worth something. 15 years he’s given to the company. 6-9 months a year he has given every year and they don’t care! They don’t care about the families at home. I told my husband that they will bleed him dry without a second thought. He does what his job description is now and the bosses aren’t too happy. So yeah… he gave them his youth. His hard work. His time. And they gave nothing in return not even complimentary lube. 😬🫣😂

[@angershark88]

You’re GD RIGHT!!!

[@jwil4905]

Holy sh*t, what a bunch of whiners. Start your own businesses since you clearly have all the answers. Get back to me when you've had to meet a payroll.

[@davedave8263]

Getting ahead is all about who you know, not what you know or how hard you work.

[@shanewaters2489]

These workers are lazier and lazier! From a boss who inherited a company and never worked a job in his life. Almost lost mine when I told him hey man, if you can't find anyone, you can fill in. Think about it. More profits because one less worker!

[@lynncarden]

Many times this is too true. Late husband was in like to become foreman of crews that built oil rig s and power houses for them....instead a new guy who had just been there for training period got job...not because he earned it or knew what he was doing...but because he had a use less degree and he was buddies with one of bosses....Husband quit...couple weeks later after he went elsewhere...he was called by the engineer and designer of new type of oil well ect..asking why he had quit...HE had worked with my husband individual crew building orginal...seemed AL didn't know much about building old type let alone the new experimental one...and they had misplaced his design...Day later The Top executive AT parent company calls ...telling my husband they needed him to work with a crew and construct one at Asto /Houston Collusuim...And send him 2 weeks pay with raise...but he said no ..because the job was given to worker who not only didn't have the job time but also had never been in charge of a crew simply because he was buddy buddy with guy who was moving up..to next level....Company ended up dismantling the one husband crew originally built with designer and reassembling at Stadium...Looking back husband probably would have better off going back...esp for our pocketbook .

[@moviesynopsis001]

@@lynncarden Did your husbands pride make your future lifestyle worse? I hope you grill him about taking risks with both of your lives due to his ego. If my husband did such a thing I would leave him a second, if men want an ego they can live with themselves.

[@galaxyanimal]

@@moviesynopsis001 The line between ego & self-respect can be a bit thin sometimes, but in my opinion not going back to that job would fall pretty squarly on the self-respect side. If you have a lifestyle that's comfortable, why quibble that it could've been a bit better if you'd done things differently.

[@johnstanley1689]

Problem I see is I personally know people who work hard and sacrifice for the company they work for and get treated like garbage. People are tired of living at the work place and not being able to enjoy life, you need a healthy balance of work and personal time. Most people are not getting that, hopefully this all makes sense.

[@adrienneclarke3953]

Agree. Bosses change and no-one cares about your input. I did a 180 attitude change 3 years ago and guess what, my pay hasn't changed yet I have less stress at work.

[@brolohalflemming7042]

Agreed. It's a power imbalance. Businesses want to maximise efficiency by piling on more pressure on staff. One company I worked for was told by their funders that it needed to cut 20% headcount to fit in with some benchmarking they'd done. We were already working long hours (no overtime), frequent travelling (minimal expenses) and growing pressure from sales and existing customers. 5 people in our team, lose 1 or else.. Which was especially fun as we were territorial, so which region/country loses their technical/design authority? So there was bit of a rush to see who'd get the redundancy pay on offer, knowing we could walk right into a new job, which I did. Then eventually due to a combination of consolidation in the industry and increased adoption of pip-squeezing 'best practices', I set up my own consultancy and could pick & choose clients I wanted to work with. So I regained my job satisfaction, and actually managed to sleep most nights.

[@le9051]

It makes perfect sense!

[@whiskybooze]

Bingo! Well said.

[@tictacmoe6227]

So true I use to work for FedEx. And my team leader told me we were short staff so I had to wait after everyone got off break before I could take one. So I waited loading a truck by myself. Everyone came back cause he was supposed to come let me go to break he had to put someone else in the truck while I was on break. Well everyone came back and no sign of the team leader I waited an hour....so i went to break cause there were new people just standing talking when I was getting hammered in the truck. When I got back he got in my face cussing me out. So i just said you know what fk this I'm not a child and I'm tired of getting worked like a dog and walk out.

[@tonyanderson191]

People are tired of going above and beyond everyday for their employer and not be compensated.we are all tired of being taken advantage of

[@TOFKAS01]

So true...

[@michelerico3874]

Amen

[@wildlifewarrior2670]

Suck it up work hard

[@sum1337]

@@wildlifewarrior2670 the last guy I know spewing that kind bootlicker nonsense was found dead from an hearth attack in the warehouse

[@robertchambers369]

FACTS

[@badrudolph9447]

Most places now, take advantage of hard workers. It’s now at the point, where hard work is exploited, not rewarded, so do the bare minimum, for the most return. I work at a grocery store, and me, plus several others have stepped down to work easier positions. The people in charge, would keep adding more and more work, and then punish us, when it became to much. It’s not the person, it’s the out of touch leaders, making life hell for common employees.

[@bradleyrogers6697]

and on top of that if you ain't woke you do the work and the woke do nothing and then take the promotion , that is why most over fifties who have not bought all the woke propaganda are getting out.

[@tracypolselli1464]

I just had to take an inclusive training at my job and realized corporate is more afraid of offending potential hires than keeping their long term, older. employees who, quite frankly, run circles around the newer generation. Many of whom have no work ethic, can’t do basic math, etc. Not one of us is proud or happy to work there.

[@buddymartin7923]

No the problem is the WORKERS think they run the company. If you can’t start and run a company then you work for someone else and so what you’re told. If you don’t want to?? Here’s hoping you have nothing because you aren’t working for it. Here’s hoping when you can’t pay; they come and get your stuff because you don’t value it enough to suck it up and work for it.

[@southerninterloper4107]

100%. The reward for good work is...more work.

[@berinmind]

Nothing hard about working in a grocery store

[@tandrew7175]

I totally respect the younger generation for their view of work: they’ve witnessed Gen-x and boomers break their backs for ungrateful corporations that just dump on them.

[@debblouin]

Most people don't work for large corporations. Nearly half of workers work for employers with fewer than 20 employees. Nearly 86% of workers work for companies with fewer than 100 employees.

[@tandrew7175]

@@debblouin, uh…a small company is still incorporated, and benefits now (at all levels) are nothing what they used to be. People need to at least read the short story Animal Farm. Orwell’s point is that capitalism and communism are opposite sides of the same coin.

[@wb5408]

I used to work for a company as an independent contractor. When I was hired, my contract stated that after working there 12 months, I would receive a $1/hour raise. But 6 months into it, I had to renew my contract, in which they changed the terms. They kept making the ability to earn a raise out of reach, though I had one of the top performance rates of 60,000 employees. Finally, I quit and have been working for a different company that actually appreciates my work. Today, I got an email from my previous company offering me a $2 sign-on bonus if I would come back to them. Yes, you read that right. $2! Wow. So tempting. I don't really think it's employees not wanting to work...we should probably start looking at the companies.

[@realmichaud]

yep but if you try and change the contract, they let you go....but in the end we know what is going to happen to the entire economy: Collapse....due to greed

[@garybulwinkle82]

@@realmichaud It's corruption!! Greed is a good motivating factor when controlled. You're paying attention to the economy when they're ripping off the country and we see the money float away in massive spending!! We have to control the spending!!!

[@gardensofthegods]

Wendy , did you ever respond to them and let them know what you're making now so that they can feel like the rotten piece of you know what that they are for thinking $2 an hour is a massive raise after you went on to another company ?

[@sarahkanto1883]

@@gardensofthegods Hmm, 2 dollars at 40 hrs...80 dollars taxed, you might get 45

[@wb5408]

@@gardensofthegods Oh no--no, no. It's not a $2/hour incentive--It literally was a $2 FLAT BONUS!

[@cuivre2004]

They are conflating "slacking" with "quiet quitting". They are two different things. Many people used to go above and beyond at work and performed discretionary and voluntary tasks for the support and betterment of the company as a whole, but these tasks were not recognized and were trumped by people who worked the angle of sycophancy, buddy-buddying and flirting with the boss (also known as "executive presence"). I was recommended for a promotion by my boss and Executive Director for the extra work and volunteer spirit I demonstrated at work, but that promotion was vetoed by some nameless and faceless person in HR- who had no clue who I was! This is the root cause of people quiet quitting- not a personal character flaw. People doing this is the effect to a larger cause- which needs to be fixed first.

[@waylanddavick9459]

Brutal. Why would someone who has been recognized as being valuable be shafted by HR? Where is the sense in that?

[@Darke_Exelbirth]

@@waylanddavick9459 HR is there for the company, not the employees.

[@ToxicCalamari]

@@waylanddavick9459 Because HR has been, and always will be, the corporate excuse factory. IF a manager wants to shut you down but make it seem like it's out of their hands they run you through HR. Disgusting really

[@SuspenseGames]

@@waylanddavick9459 Because this person isn't giving you the whole picture. I seriously doubt that a random HR person is overriding the personnel decisions of high executives. That isn't how things work.

[@terrybrown797]

The American dream was if you work hard enough you can have the things you need in life sadly that is not the truth if you work hard enough you will work even harder until there's nothing left of you and in the end you have nothing to show for it that is the American dream

[@Ross-xr8ce]

When you create a society where you have no guarentee of owning a house no matter how small no matter how hard you work and your money is inflated away no wonder young people aren't engaged.

[@jamesnash6101]

Who says you have to own the standard home? That's the western philosophy. There are other forms of home/dwellings. 300 s.f. tiny homes, vans, boats, converting an old school bus, ect...

[@IrrationalExuberance]

@@jamesnash6101 Corrugated cardboard refrigerator box! Think inside the box, man!

[@yuppers1]

@@jamesnash6101 In a van... down by the river!

[@Chasemcloud5745]

@@yuppers1 just need 100k and you’ll be down by the river

[@theprecipiceofreason]

@@jamesnash6101 This isn't China. YOU can have a cage. It's not philosophy. It's a standard of living.

[@RPG_RicePaddyGod]

Another contributing factor is that employers expect 16 hours of work done in a 8 hour day. Constantly working overtime as a permanent solution for the lack of staff.

[@lindawalker7188]

@@poollife777 Go into healthcare lol

[@handlesrstupid123]

@@poollife777 or try manufacturing and skill trades (especially skilled trades)

[@scottwalker5275]

@@poollife777 I run a CNC lathe and manual lathe. Worked 64 1/2 hrs last week. Been working between 50 and 60 hours all year long. We can’t find people that want to work. We can’t get stuff shipped on time because of lack of staff. Yet 3 of us are killing ourselves to try to get stuff done.

[@Vertexp]

@@lindawalker7188 Try healthcare construction. I'm running 6 jobsites with 176 people at the same time right now lol.

[@arnauservaux3936]

@@scottwalker5275 no no Scott, you can't ship on time because someone's making promises like they have a full crew still. If whoever promised the date has realistic goals, they might look bad up front, but they won't be the one trying to string a customer along because they gave an unrealistic time frame. If you only have 5 people working you can't expect the equivalent of 10 people's output at the same speed.

[@bobsaggat]

Young people don't want to work: "Entry level job , 10 years experience needed pays less than your rent"

[@robbyprice8247]

This^

[@titianmom]

Exactly. I am 60 but I know the work world is NOT the same as when I was younger.

[@billbillson5082]

Yeap, and the government has made it that way..

[@Krysdavar]

Heh, yep, the good old days of needing so many years' experience just to do something simple.

[@Krysdavar]

My question always was back then: "How can you get a job if you don't have experience, how can you get experience if you can't get a job?? Felt like trying to get a job was like the fricken "chicken and the egg" metaphor back then.

[@Looking4TravelingWelderJob]

With I lnflation we can't afford anything.. working 50hrs no longer pays the bills and than some. This admin is killing us

[@jeffarnold3800]

The real killer is housing, which has been a problem now for a couple of decades. Silly to blame one admin

[@erikarice6859]

That’s not your boss or the company, that’s gov spending and it’s hurting everyone

[@lao8006]

inflation is a global problem your ignorant if you blame one administration.

[@zerocool5395]

Trump and Biden printed 6 trillion dollars, I wonder if that had an effect on the record inflation we're experiencing.

[@slabbusterrtr7690]

Agree our pay is not keeping up with inflation and joe tater and that bunch in DC aint got a clue he's NEVER had to work he's leeced of tax payer last 5o years

[@nikis222]

I wish that I could live in the same world as these guys.

[@jmd1743]

Mike is an actor. He's a member of the actor's guild.

[@betweenyellowan_dred]

Is it 1955 in their world?

[@jmd1743]

@@betweenyellowan_dred Mike is a paid actor who's a member of the actor's guild. He role plays as a working class man to back stab the working class for some billionaires in exchange for being a millionaire. He's essentially a Judas Goat.

[@kennethduckworth7111]

@@jmd1743 and he’s now on strike.

[@blakejackson7193]

In my 11 years at my job I've seen people come in and work hard, get no rewards other than management knowing that "this is the guy I delegate my tasks to." The task list for everyone keeps expanding but they pay doesn't. The task list for the hard workers REALLY expands and the pay still doesn't. You know the only time pay really increased? When there was a hiring crisis.

[@YouTubePurgetheblackplague]

Yep, that's why job hopping and employee fishing is going on. Employee fishing- recruiters from other companies recruiting already employed people.

[@younggrasshopper3531]

Negotiation!

[@rondent6875]

It was my experience that not only did I get delegated task from others with no rewards but that my hard work and achievements either meant nothing or that others took credit for them. Stroking huge management egos with extreme megalomania and the "optics" were more important than the process. If you work hard for a company or corporation in this country, they think that you are a fool. Do not go to work with a strong work ethic. Management and the governments think you are a fool, they are fascists. Until this changes, we are headed for socialist/communist values where the corporate/state authoritarian control pretends to pay people and people pretend to work. The former united states of America is doomed.

[@gayleklein8890]

I get what you're saying. My experience is no one wants to do the job. They are not working hard.

[@leudast1215]

These news anchors are obligated to tell their listeners to work harder for less. The employer culture from the boomer Era is dead.

[@lukeb2526]

There is no light at the end of the tunnel in todays work. Housing, Cost of living and the opportunity to raise a family is so far out of reach these days it is defeating

[@BlueEternities]

Exactly.

[@red9man2130]

YEP!!

[@anomymous1286]

This. I’d work with a smile on my face if there was a family and a house and a life at the end of the rainbow, but there isn’t.

[@gardenst4398]

Taxes😥😥😥😥😥

[@stephaniesmith7832]

Perfectly said. I don't think older people understand this. Back then there was real opportunity for advancement and a chance for recognition. From there they had attainable goals to progress in life. Has anyone analyzed the cost of living? Buying a home today is like winning the lottery. This is how young people feel. Why drag yourself out of bed every day and give your all to a rat race that leads to nowhere?

[@joshlorence1880]

Minimum wage buys the company minimum effort from the employee. Stop trying to convince people to do more than they are paid to do. These companies abuse employees.

[@russellm2555]

The minimum wage system is junk. Workers should have the ability to negotiate their own value

[@sabin97]

@@russellm2555 capitalism doesnt work like that. the party with the most capital(in this case the employer) gets to pretty much dictate the terms(unless you have some sort of extremely rare skill. like a specialist in the genders of mushrooms or some super niche field like that). and hunger is a powerful coercive force. and in usakistan you dont have laws forcing employers to allow employees to form unions. so you have no collective bargaining. so you need minimum wage laws. all the minimum wage laws do is make sure your employer cant exploit you beyond a certain point.

[@ivanlagrossemoule]

@@sabin97 Not only that, but the wealthy buy politicians and the media (as shown here) to make sure the employees have very little weight against the employers.

[@sabin97]

@@ivanlagrossemoule and yet in usakistan you worship the rich.

[@LucasFernandez-fk8se]

@@sabin97ou don’t understand capitalism do you? We don’t need minimum wage. People have been paid above min wage for the past 3 years as the labor market tightens and they refuse to work for less than 10$ an hour. The minimum wage is still 7.50$ but most people collectively decided they won’t work for under 10-12 even for shitty minimum wage jobs. That means 10-12 is the new unofficial minimum wage even if it legally isn’t. Keep out the immigrants so they can’t replace us with cheap 3rd world labor and we can keep raising our wages by just deciding not to work and move out of our parents houses until wages meet rent prices

[@kimayaknight7180]

Yes I quit my job as an RN last two years ago after almost 18 years in the field. It was not an easy decision, but life is too short to dread going to work everyday. No amount of money can buy real happiness, but friends I'm not asking you to resign from your job or abandon your business but be wise!

[@eiraantoinette6793]

I don't really like my job but I love what it provides for me and my family. This pandemic has people rethinking working

[@gracedaniels6172]

Hey ma'am if I may ask what do you do now and how did you plan yourself before quitting?

[@MillennialCop1215]

I’d quit 2 with being forced a vaccine and wear a mask for forever

[@kimayaknight7180]

@@gracedaniels6172 right now I run my own business and While I was still in service I planned towards early retirement, making about 3k weekly from my retirement investment portfolio trying so much to build more side hustles and extra income

[@gracedaniels6172]

@@kimayaknight7180 wow impressive you're making quite a fortune speaking of investing I have heard many people talk about it but I don't really know how to start can you explain?

[@JAKASHA420]

Management ruined the best job I ever had. They coddled those that didn't do their job and harassed those that did. I put in 90+ hours a week for them for 4 years. I'm now 57 and on a medical pension. Letting go of my work ethics was one of the hardest things I have ever had to do mentally.

[@Patriot-od6xk]

I feel you fellow Patriot 😢... My story is exactly the same

[@mmercier0921]

No sense in harassing the useless employees who don't care.

[@cathoderay305]

I hear you - I gave over 20 years to my company, wrote 3/4 of the quality management system and processing procedures, established beneficial relationships with customer representatives, and worked hard to keep the company accredited. The investment group that bought the company laid me off when they decided to increase company stock value prior to sale to another bunch of investors. They brought me back on board at 2/3 the pay, made me an hourly employee after 16 years on salary, and took away the profit-sharing bonuses that I used to get every month - BUT they still expect the same level of performance i exhibited prior to the layoff! I work only hard enough to get by now, because they really can't afford to let me go now (no one else wants to work here for what they are now paying - the company is always hiring...) If I hadn't been unemployed throughout the pandemic lockdowns, I would have told them to stuff it!

[@satendravishwakarma4490]

@@mmercier0921 Yes there are a class of useless individuals in every company. Did you read the substance of his words.

[@rachelstein3786]

Same!!

[@robgregory5136]

As a gen X who was taught work ethic, part of the problem is that companies often don’t reward workers who go above and beyond, the ones who were just as productive working from home as in the office, constantly overload us, then when we try to get promoted, we are too “valuable” where we are. The employees who hide and continued to hide during the pandemic get paid the same.

[@elmateo77]

Yeah when they said I was "too valuable where I was" and promoted a guy who started after I did and hadn't done sht since he got there above me I realized it was all a scam. Do as little work as possible for as much money as possible. Look out for yourself first and foremost since you can be sure the employer will put their own interests well above yours.

[@fleatactical7390]

@@elmateo77 So you quit, right? You left the company to figure out the mess they made and went on to find employment at a company that actually cares about you, right?

[@AZrakoon]

These companies also say stupid stuff like "good customer service is going above and beyond your duty"

[@leahmaeder1307]

Yep. Or give you more responsibility and less flexibility if you're doing well and tell you it's an "opportunity". NEVER with any pay bump.

[@mikethemechanic7395]

Gen X here also. I am 47. I gave up my dream of getting promoted in my field. I made the mistake of showing up early to work ready to go. I worked 110 percent and got nothing from it. My current job I was recruited for. I work above average. I refuse to do anything that I don’t get paid for. Shop foreman is eliminated in my field. They cheat and call it Lead. It’s the same as a Foreman but without the pay and supervisor title. I been doing it for 20 years. The shortage has made me do jobs that are for green guys or guys with low experience. This was not what I signed up for 20 years ago.

[@susanwehe8270]

My daughter has worked hard at her job for years and recently got a promotion which includes a raise. We are so proud of her. She just recently found out that her employer is hiring and the new hires will be getting more per hour than she does. That’s soul killing and she’ll likely look for work elsewhere as she has advanced training. Their reasoning is that they don’t retain workers who start at a lower rate… so now they can pay them for years and pay for them to receive advanced training… that’s just idiotic

[@milesp8620]

Why not just point this out to management and demand a raise?

[@d.l4055]

@Susan Wehe The "Training your replacement" process is morphing. If this is True, "For every action there's an equal of opposite reaction" what prevents same from having a name and face?

[@susanwehe8270]

@@d.l4055 your agreement/argument is baffling.

[@d.l4055]

@@susanwehe8270 Sorry, maybe I should have said the corporate "Turnover" process is nothing like it used to be. The name and face reference was from an old lead in from the TV show Dragnet where they'd "Changed" the names and faces in the story line to protect the Innocent"

[@rogerkipwell1041]

That's been the practice for years. My father was management with US Steel and there was nearly a revolt when he and his peers found out that new hires were making more than people who'd been there for ten years and more.

[@rthua5718]

People are quitting because it’s crazy to want to work in jobs where favoritism and nepotism makes it impossible for a lot of people to promote let alone thrive

[@matthewsaunders4820]

The younger generation watched their moms and dads work late, skip vacations, all go into work sick all their lives. Still, their parents struggle to save for retirement, get a promotion, and pay off their house. Their kids watched and learned how businesses and bosses treat their employees. Why break their back just to struggle the same way? At least they can take a vacation and spend time with family. Nobody on their deathbed wished they worked more.

[@daveassanowicz186]

Amen!

[@Z28videogates]

And that was when the dollar was worth more. It’s even worse now and they know it.

[@Ghost101]

Not to mention younger generation like me are becoming more savvy and have access to more information than ever at our keyboards. Sure as hell I'm not wanting to break my back the same as my parents did.

[@hothonda2k2]

Not to mention growing up we were told to stick at your job and work there until you retire . They told us no one likes a job hopper . Now all my younger friends spend 6 months at a job and move on always for more pay . They triple and quadruple there salaries . Then there is the steady hard worker putting in 15 years to be rewarded with a few promotions and cost of living increases that barely raise there take home . Loyalty and hard work are undervalued and worth is based on networking and social interaction.

[@JDSabre]

ding ding ding! Society isnt broken It was built this way Systematically wearing everyone down.

[@papawx3]

We are seeing a lack of motivation for several reasons, but biggest is this: When people see no future in something they quit it. When there is no reward {or far too little} they give up. Living expenses are outpacing allot of people's income so they begin to question why they are wasting their lives for nothing or somebody else. People are getting priced right out of things their parents took for granted. In some cases it is a moral character flaw but for many it isn't.

[@MrFdfdfdfdfdfd]

100 percent

[@BrotherK-ex2co]

If a job is pointless and you don't get much satisfaction from it then why bother.

[@ElKay500]

1000 percent

[@HandleNameIsStupid]

@@BrotherK-ex2co That's most people and most jobs though...movies and the media in general love to paint happy faces and moral superiority but at the end of the day a job is something that gives money and nothing else.

[@dave175a]

@@BrotherK-ex2co Yes you can visually see that in Biden and pretty much every other puppet.

[@DCBChump]

I think the biggest problem is that we no longer feel that we have anything to work for.

[@spencervance8484]

Also pay. We arent meant for "work to live" also management needs improvement

[@johnnynewt9498]

Amen.... Spencer

[@smocahontas1091]

Many would disagree with this; we just want to be paid appropriately to what people were paid 30 years ago from what salary and cost of living levels were

[@josterlund2]

Oddly... we have more than most people have ever had in the history of mankind... and many are most miserable.

[@dixienormous5867]

Men usually work for women. Men want a good women. But woman have the high paying jobs. There's no communication with the sexes anymore.

[@gammayin3245]

Why would intelligent people purposefully allow near-enslavement of self for the betterment of billionaires if there are other options?

[@debblouin]

Look up employment stats. Most people do not work for billionaires. Most business owners employ fewer than 25 people, and 86% of workers work for companies with less than 100 employees and operate at less than 10%.

[@gammayin3245]

My concept would also apply to those business owners who are 'mere' millionaires. Most of their employees are certainly not. The people who are quitting are either despondent or angrily punishing their bosses. I never advocate either. I advocate FULLY quitting and getting a better job or embarking upon your own business if you have the ability and funding for it. @@debblouin

[@jamesR1990]

This ignores the decay of the corporate structure. Employees are less taken care of and more demanded of than ever before. Pensions are down, healthcare is down and demands are up

[@unhommequiestmechant]

When corporate America quits cutting vacations and pension, etc., then people will take pride in their jobs. Corporate America has been cutting benefits, making record profits, and understaffing for years. People are tired of it.

[@muhname8197]

This is Exactly Right. We The People will not budge

[@Sspyca]

We see record profits across the board for them and lower wages and higher rent for us what's even the point of believing in this system

[@arbogast4950]

@@Sspyca What's the alternative?

[@simhess9720]

@@arbogast4950 Be your own Employer.

[@rhetttr0]

Agreed. This segment is idiotic. Those who are quiet quitting are doing so because they don’t see a meaningful path toward their life goals. Middle class wages have fallen behind inflation. Why work your tail off if it won’t get you anywhere? Trade occupations are among the few that have managed to keep up with inflation, which is why the trades, as well as garbage men, report some of the highest job satisfaction rates.

[@billsimmons7754]

As an old retired guy I can tell you that the nature of work has changed. The nature of corporate America has changed. I worked for a company for a total of 24 years (with a 10 year break) When I started the company founders still ran the business and employees were considered to be the companies most valuable asset. At the end of my tour, the company was going through MBAs for CEO like clockwork. The jobs had changed from a cooperative atmosphere where employees were mentored to succeed and contribute to cogs in a machine that was controlled by edicts from above etched in rigid policies and regimented processes whether they fit the situation or not. When I left from my final tour, I and a few thousand others were now considered excess fixed cost overhead. I had a VP confide that he had 90 days to turn around our operation using failing processes he was not embowed to change. Several VPs cycled through. I was lucky as I was able to work in a non defined position of solving technical problems all over the floor and I was able to make a notable impact on the productivity of the operation. I kept a low profile and ignored the rules. From this position I was able to find job satisfaction. However, most of the other positions resembled trained animals in a circus act. I think most jobs have become over defined, over supervised, and over punished. I had my own company for a few years and generally all it took to motivate an employee was to be fair and say a few kind words.

[@kaylaculpepper887]

What you said was interesting. Do you mind expanding on what you mean by "over defined, over supervised, and over punished"?

[@David-eu1ms]

The workplace has become political.

[@billsimmons7754]

@@kaylaculpepper887 I mean the job has been reduced to repetitive steps that require no thought processes. Supervision will punish you if you see a better way to perform the task or for even suggesting such a change. Management wants robots. When I started my career, employee input was welcomed. Towards the end, process improvement thoughts from the troops were viewed as either a lack of respect for those that implemented the process or a burden for management that did not want to deal with it Part of these changes were because originally management all the way to the top were promoted from the technical ranks. Later, when business majors started running things, promotions were often based on political policies instead of technical capabilities. Thus management did not have the ability to assess technical situations nor the staff to do it for them.

[@cabl3guy2012]

@@billsimmons7754 workers have become more and more alienated for their own labour, not to mention each other... "The worker becomes all the poorer the more wealth he produces, the more his production increases in power and size. The worker becomes an ever cheaper commodity the more commodities he creates. The devaluation of the world of men is in direct proportion to the increasing value of the world of things. Labor produces not only commodities; it produces itself and the worker as a commodity - and this at the same rate at which it produces commodities in general." Marx 1884

[@davidhawley1132]

@@billsimmons7754 Yes, jobs are being deskilled, which makes workers faceless commodities controlled by processes imposed on them.

[@rcmag13]

When you work hard for years and continually get a 2% salary raise while inflation is 3-4x that amount, of course people are going to start doing the bare minimum. The employers have been giving us the bare minimum for years

[@debblouin]

What has your personal experience been. You are using USvTHEM language as if it is true.

[@ilovemytribe]

Nope. Sorry. It's more like people are tired of the bullying, the harassment, the childish immature coworkers, the Corporations having almost total control over your life. The threats of being fired for being just a minute late. It's just like a bad relationship. If you can leave and find someone or something better, you will...

[@melkerner]

The problem with making the "deal" for your paycheck is - the corporations have relegated the employer / employee contract down to "human resources" instead of "personnel". You are no longer a member of the "family" or a valued employee of the company - but are expected to step up, dedicate yourself without question to whatever decisions are made by the company - and accept unlimited workload and responsibilities while there is always an excuse why you need to do more while the company "can't" seem to "afford" to compensate even up to the inflation rate. All the while you watch incompetent non-producers continue to be promoted and financially rewarded, but you can't because your work is "so critical", etc..... THIS is why people are Quiet Quitting. Management and corporations are broken by the spreadsheet of the moment mentality that has infected the accounting and C level executives everywhere. The world is being run by idiots!

[@nobody-fs8jj]

Very well said! And this is how I felt and what I observed within the company before I quit recently. I gave my all every day and dealt with an array of multiple problems at the place, and watched people who absolutely wouldn't do their jobs being rewarded for doing nothing. The corporation is ran by complete incompetence and violations constantly occurred but if you bring it up you are the bad guy. Ok. I no longer agree to these terms and I quit. They don't care about me, I care too much lol.

[@wokewokerman5280]

@@nobody-fs8jj ...it's all about stroking your boss and not so much about results.... all true above, and why most all corporations eventually fall apart... in the end as all that's left are strokers!!!....

[@barbarabennett6331]

100% agree! I was a dedicated hard working retail manager. What you stated is exactly what happened to me… more and more work without the compensation. I finally gave up. Definitely their loss.

[@crossbowsniper]

I see a lot of you crybabies talking about “compensation” and being paid “based on inflation” which is another way of saying “a living wage”…if it’s that bad, instead of “quietly quitting” why done you grow a pair and become part of the solution. Go start your own business, hire your own employees, pay them and treat them the way you’re griping that you want to be paid and treated. That would be a way to become part of the solution. But most of you really are lazy and afraid to take the risk.

[@johnnyrotundo6483]

that's why I work for myself, by myself. I tried hiring help, but found that I had to work more and generate more income to pay for said help, while I was making the same.

[@unhommequiestmechant]

I quit going above and beyond because there is no benefit to it. It doesn't lead to promotion, it just leads to abuse anymore.

[@ruffxm]

Yeah just another excuse.

[@xlerb2286]

I'm nearing standard retirement age and I've worked for several companies through the years. One thing I learned early on is life is to short to work with jerks. I was fortunate that I got in with a good company that cared about employees and treated us all well. Then we were bought by a much larger corporation. Salaries were higher, but the company didn't care about employees and it quickly became an unhappy place. In the years since I've managed to find good companies and know enough to leave if the company stopped caring. But it's getting harder and harder to find those good places. I look at the young folk coming out of college with decades in the work force ahead of them. I hope they have the opportunities I have had but I'm not overly hopeful. And it's such a shame. Everybody loses when companies can't see further than next quarter's balance sheet.

[@Scriptorsilentum]

"Everybody loses when companies can't see further than next quarter's balance sheet." that's funny. their shareholders ALWAYS do well...

[@xlerb2286]

@@Scriptorsilentum In the short term anyway. 🙂 I've seen too many companies that failed to make long term investments because it would hurt short term profits. And in the long term the company couldn't compete and failed or was bought out. The shareholders suffered. The folk that didn't seem to suffer were the ones making the bad decisions.

[@XaadeTheBlade]

I keep telling people that it's not about pay. It's about needs. But people don't understand until they experience it.

[@sharonoverton9897]

AMEN 😮..

[@jakeputnam9927]

I work at a FedEx ground warehouse, and they give out “worker appreciation awards” every month that you can turn into literally FedEx merch. So the hardest workers here get a cool looking hat. Wow so rewarding. Yet everyday I’m doing the work of three people, loading three trucks at once. We are so understaffed that it’s taking a toll on my body. So I’m done.

[@youmayberight2434]

They used to give out special parking pass to employee of the month where you could park closer to work. Wonder if they still do that?

[@nazaxprime]

Your truckers are pretty well compensated. I'd go for express if I was so inclined to drive for fedx. It's much more rewarding if you're relatively young and can get a sleeper truck though. No rent, or associated bills... I just wish I had gotten in before I started a family.

[@Jonathan-uc7do]

Fedex ground is a terrible company. They don't let package handlers work full time. You come in for 4-6 hours a day and most have a second job

[@bobshagit9503]

so ... flare.... okay office space

[@mortvid]

All the people you work with also think they are doing the lion's share of the work. Go find a better job if you have the skills. If not get them or quit whining.

[@KeoTower]

I was born in 83 and couldn't wait to start working. It started working at 13 at my stepfather's hotel getting paid under the table. I'll be 40 next year. Things have changed in the workplace. Almost every job out there pays poorly, well at least the majority of the jobs at the average person can get. On top of that it's become very regimented in almost every field. I started working in sales back in about 2003. I got into the cell phone industry while it was young. Sales used to be about cultivating relationships and I was good at it. People trusted me with a 5-minute conversation and they consistently came back to see me for all their needs. Through the years the cell phone industry decided that this was a waste of time. You're no longer allowed to be you, you're no longer allowed to be a person or to have relationships while at work. You are honestly expected to behave in a very robotic fashion, to have every answer scripted and rehearsed. It makes the work environment a very cold one. No level of performance seems to satisfy the higher-ups. "Hey you broke a sales record this month, that's fantastic. Let's see if you can do 15 more next month." No appreciation for the job accomplished instead they just raised the bar. And if you don't hit the bar next month then you're not putting in 100% of your effort in their eyes. This transition from treating customers like people to treating people like transactions came slowly through the next two decades. As far as most companies are concerned there is no such thing as good enough anymore. There is no such thing as surpassing goals because in their eyes there's always room for improvement. It really sucks the soul out of you and you get to the point where you get to hating the customer even though it's not their fault. You get to hating them because just a simple fact that they require service means that you have to put on this facade, it means that you have to manipulate them into purchasing services that they don't need and can't afford, services that typically over promise and under deliver, service that leaves you hanging when you need it most. And even though as an employee you know that the service is trash you are forced to pretend as if it's the greatest thing since sliced bread. I remember being proud of working at the hotel because we strive to make it a better place for our guests. We charged a reasonable rate and didn't try to upsell our customers. We rewarded frequent customers because we knew them personally and not because they signed up for an email advertising list. The youth entering the workforce today just went through two decades of the worst schooling this country has ever produced. And now they're entering into a work environment which doesn't allow them to be human. I'm a conservative who wants to work and who currently has a job so I'm not just some lefty complaining. This is how it actually is nowadays. I honestly don't blame these people for not wanting to work under these conditions anymore.

[@jeremykiahsobyk102]

Yeppers.

[@alyssawoodman]

Thank you for taking the time to write this. It was a definitely a good read. Totally honest and accurate.

[@dead2802]

One good thing a lot of small and large companies are doing finally is firing all the dammed woke people and not hiring any more. They do nothing but upset other workers, bring work to a stop while they get in others faces, demand masks be worn, etc.. until employees wont work in that kind of environment. There were 2 shows about it and one LG company fired over 800.

[@JS-iz2fk]

Very accurate and honest. I have witnessed the very same changes in my over 20 years of working. I call it the Corporate attitude. They treat workers poorly, micromanage, and foster cronyism. Customers are exploited and group think is preferred over good quality work and competence.

[@user-so1wr2oh1t]

My job “required” a bachelor’s degree and since no one else applied for the job, I got it! This is telling in today’s world that not enough folks are getting those expensive degrees. I barely make enough money to pay for my housing with this bachelor-degree-requiring job.

[@sawyer4981]

Right? I worked in customer service for a company many years ago right out of college. They also required a bachelors degree. Absolutely nothing I learned while getting my bio degree was used at that job & the pay was terrible. Companies are still doing this nonsense.

[@scaletownmodels]

I was working as a programmer while working on getting a degree to be a programmer. I got fed up with the college system when over half the required units had nothing to do with computers at all. I still don't have a degree but I do have over 20 years professional corporate experience. I learnt my first programming language 41 years ago.

[@drewgolias1941]

@ Kevin Hunt, thank you sir, got my degree and that taught me nothing compared to reality of the work, and half the classes I had to take back in 2013 were all gender studies when I was taking physics

[@drewgolias1941]

I was a bio major

[@ayabokti161]

It was between myself and another to get a sales rep job. The other person had a Masters & I had much more years of experience. Her Masters was in Interior Design. I literally had to have inside help & stand on my head to get this job. I was fantastic at the job. A few years later higher ups realized I got the job over a Master's degree person & every now & then they threw that in my face. Even to the point of one man sabotaging my work. I was very good-looking & single, if I had trouble with any upper management at work, people would say" they are just jealous or they just want you," "or why do you work? Your so pretty, just get married & let someone take care of you" Just?! Like that was all ok? It sucked! I loved working but hated the idiots I worked with. So I quietly quit. I did marry a man with means. I have a horse ranch & animals & had beautiful children that have never caused me not one day of grief. So I guess things evened out for me. But now they are jealous because of what I have & do. I've lost family & friends because I would not let them run all over my husband & I. Humans are so exhausting.

[@Escape2Paradox]

I had a job before where every time you gave 110%, %110 became the new %100. Everyone went above and beyond maybe two or three times, realized that all that did was get them more work for the same pay, then did exactly what was expected of them and nothing more from then on. I think that is the main problem nowadays, once managers see a person can do something, even if its way above and beyond their job requirements, they expect nothing less than that non-stop, even if that worker is burning out. I love Mike Rowe, but I feel this is rather out of touch with what the reality is for a lot of people stuck in jobs with crappy management and little prospect for advancement.

[@LegoSwordViedos]

He gets to walk onto the job and get patted on the back for a day by the boss while they complain about THOSE people handing them the hose or lifting the heavy box for them. While the boss lies through their teeth on the pay. Or they say a person can get training to this certification but they could make it impossible off screen away from the camera's and Mike row will never go back and call them out for it or even know. Good example is the trucking industry they point to it that there are SO many good jobs out there and people are jsut to lazy to do it. Well I know someone who just got their CDL and 3 job offers have been bait and switch, one was really scummy even after he drove out 1,000 miles to get there. And plenty of fake job postings. And a few jobs that have had very difficult intake tests and exams. So very few of the people with the certification already can even get those jobs. So in other words its an industry full of liars but Mike gets the big bucks going on fox complaining the young are to lazy for this stuff. when per capita those going into trucking now get less in every regard.

[@fototripper]

Job satisfaction has a lot to do with who you work with and who you work for.

[@mikesmith5600]

Very true & it's also in where you want to be in life..

[@deeznuts3203]

Agreed. No body has time for a job that stresses you out

[@scottmcloughlin4371]

@A A During the pandemic, many people stopped going out, sport shopping and driving around. So, now many people wonder what they are earning money FOR. That doesn't mean they won't work, but they are reconsidering their work options.

[@evelynmartin8170]

True! It took me 30 years to find a job I love. I'm doing the same thing but with awesome people and I can say every day that I love my job.

[@DG-sf9ei]

@@evelynmartin8170 Yep, and the person you work for sets the mannerisms of the people you work with. I'd like to see Mike Rowe work around a crew of people who completely disagree and dispise him.....he wouldn't last a day, much less make it something satisfying.

[@Matt-ki6tw]

It's because hard work, exceeding the metrics for your role, being reliable, working late, going above and beyond, doesn't turn into bigger raises and or bonuses for a lot of people. You just end up being someone taken advantage of while the money goes to others for one reason or another. People are sick of it.

[@tessah.7641]

At my husband's job the hard work pay-off is the boss is off your back. No harassment. And you're socially accepted and respected among co-workers. Which is worth something, usually your happiness and job satisfaction.

[@Ryan-zv6xw]

@@tessah.7641 It doesn't have to be monetary reward, but if a workplace incentivizes bad behavior it will get it.

[@Matt-ki6tw]

@@tessah.7641 That is a good point and that does help a lot. But most mgrs never bother their high performers to start with. You are actually a gift to them as they don't have to worry about you and can put their time on the problem Childs. Never experienced or seen, even the micro mgrs, bother high/top performers. That's the thing, companies should compensate these people appropriately. Unfortunately, a lot of times, they don't.

[@brynleytalbot778]

Also managers see that you’re increasing output when required and then decide their egos need building so set the metrics at the level you’ve pushed yourself to but is unsustainable in the long term. How to lose a great workforce in one easy management step.

[@Matt-ki6tw]

@@brynleytalbot778 Exactly. It can be for longer but when you see your coworker making more, sometimes a lot more, and you're the tip of the spear, it kills your soul. It's not about the money, it's about being treated fairly. And a kudos for a great job is not being treated fairly.

[@alrightythen1466]

Former factory worker here...”IF YOU DONT LIKE IT YOU CAN LEAVE AND NOT COME BACK”. We were told this several times a week during the morning meetings. But the reason they can’t keep people is “laziness” and “people don’t wanna work”. They talked to people like dogs

[@coyoteclockworkstudios3140]

Don't forget how they threatened us all with robot replacements. Such a shame that's not working!

[@ryanlynch290]

That's really bad management.

[@alfonsocastillo7815]

Yes bro

[@wondering141]

Jail/Prison Corrections is this way too

[@Kywaterdawg71]

When the issue was raised about our department losing all the “good people”, the manager says “there’s always someone else to replace them”. Thing is though, the replacements come to the job with the attitude of doing just enough to get by, and many times not even that.

[@BuzzinVideography]

And those of us that WANT to work and do good things... we are taken advantage of and companies treat us like crap. All the other lazy employees eat at us, and mock us, so we are literally chased off.

[@suomynona4420]

Hence why quiet quitting has become so popular lately.

[@LSTSKR]

In America today, when everyone gets a participation award, and the least demand "equity", the hardest, most productive workers are rewarded with MORE WORK!

[@D-E-S_8559]

Fine I can agree with some arguments against student loan forgiving, by those who didn't go to college or already paid-off theirs---maybe it's unfair, just maybe. However, I can also understand the unwillingness for college grandaunts, having to pay taxes so as the military complex can invade some poor country somewhere who's threatened to nationalize their banana's, to the chagrin of an American corporation that imports cheap banana's to the US... That way everybody keeps their money, and the greedy capitalists corporations can pay for their-own darn wars---and everybody else lives forever happy tax free or joins the corporate capitalist army.

[@Nightgig]

@@D-E-S_8559 Did you stop taking your meds again?

[@rickg7335]

@@D-E-S_8559 Godzilla had a stroke and died from reading your spam.

[@proudamerican2133]

I've seen so many people lately putting more effort into finding ways to avoid doing what they are paid to do, than the effort it would take to JUST DO THE JOB.

[@blazehall8086]

@@rickg7335 these msm comment sections are always just spam and fake accounts

[@ridds777]

No more pensions, low pay, no raises to tackle inflation.. all of these are the issue.

[@patriciageier7886]

deregulation!!! and Union busting.

[@sinenomine3749]

Here's the problem. Going above and beyond, working the long hours, taking on the extra projects, never saying no to more work - doesn't benefit you as an employee. You won't be the one getting the raise or the promotion because you're just too darn competent and hard-working to move out of that position. It's a simple matter of incentives. If I get the same pay and same position regardless of my performance, then what's the use of doing "A+" work and giving the trite and cliched "110%" rather than doing "C" work and working no more and no less than my scheduled hours? We want things to be a meritocracy, and for hard work to be rewarded, but that isn't generally how the real world operates.

[@greglavers]

Yes you become the one employee they rely on to abuse with the extra work load.

[@bingbong6861]

I can relate to having a coworker doing maybe a quarter of the work i do a day and its easier getting paid the same. Pisses me off

[@donaldoehl7690]

Well stated. I liked your weld test story.

[@strugglinghustler]

💯

[@richt2933]

How about I'll go above and beyond when my paycheck is above and beyond you get what you pay for.

[@beng4647]

I've worked hard my whole life for nothing. I am 40 and homeless. Don't fall for it. The corporations will use you and spit you out.

[@zigbeegooblesnort125]

Loyalty in companies is One Way ...from the bottom up. Workers are just items to be used by management and then throw out, to get more.

[@roberthicks1612]

Loyalty?????? Seriously? there is no loyalty in companies. In most states EITHER party can end the work relationship. Employees are loyal to their paycheck, nothing more.

[@Metaphix]

The days of getting a lifetime job at a company, and actually owing them any sort of loyalty are long gone unfortunately, you're right, you are a commodity. They want people to go above and beyond but they'll never pay them to go above and beyond. Boomers like Mike don't see it somehow.

[@roberthicks1612]

@@Metaphix With rare exceptions, people always expect to get more than they pay for, whether it be for money or time. Employers want more work for their wages, and employees want more wages for the time. The different with this generation is they have pretty much been taught that what they want is their right. When they do not get it, they stop working and then complain when they get fired for not working.

[@notrobbie7893]

I work. My wife works. We aren't "getting ahead." We both get home and spend our "free time" working as far as chores, kids, cleaning, cooking. We have no time to relax and refresh. Employers aren't raising pay more than inflation. I feel like I should only be required to give my employer the amount of energy they pay for. We're done giving more of ourselves who don't care about us or are willing to pay for us to do more. I'd rather give my kids that energy.

[@gonzowarburn7045]

Yes Sir!

[@neanderthalsnavel7411]

Amen!

[@laurareynolds6015]

You are not alone. We just went through a union contract negotiation and our pay increase is a total slap in the face. To look at the cost of living increase every day it is so so hard to respect both the union and the company. I have such a sour attitude now unfortunately.

[@mortvid]

You guys spend too much. Austere your life up some. The american dream is exactly that, a dream. Suck it up buttercup

[@mortvid]

@@laurareynolds6015 There is a support group for your situation. They call themselves "everyong" and they are meeting at the bar friday and 5:30

[@Juan_Graziano]

With inflation and higher taxation, workers are getting tired of their hard earned money going to a government that spends it haphazardly. That's my take on it.

[@ithakra]

Yep, work a crappy job and get 700 taken out per check by the government. It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone why this is happening

[@ericmann1781]

If these comments prove anything it's that they really missed a lot of examples thousands of people are agreeing with, this one being especially true in Quebec, we're taxed to hell and back 3 times for good measure.

[@bryceables2319]

Every time in recorded history that the wealth gap grew to this level, there was a revolution of some kind.

[@lindenwatson846]

Very true!

[@florindagonzalez5700]

People cannot afford to work for free. You want employees to work, "above & beyond"? That's something you pay for. It's illegal to ask for "above and beyond" without paying them (e.g. working after hours without compensation). Any extra work is work and needs to be compensated. I feel "quiet quitting" was termed to "shame" employees into thinking they aren't pulling their weight. Absolutely not. They are working the hours agreed, they're working, not quitting. They refuse to work for free because working for free doesn't pay the bills. What part of that don't corporations understand? The beautiful thing about nowadays is we have the "audacity" to hold them accountable into compensating us even if it gets us fired. Work will always be there, our life time won't be. And, I'm glad people are fighting back and putting their foot down, refusing to be taken advantage of without pay. Example: They say, "We're family," but then fire Becky without warning. No.

[@ruffxm]

Typical ignorant, close-minded thinking. Firstly, it's not "illegal" to ask anything. I can ask you to do anything - you don't have to say yes. It's illegal to force someone to do something (see the difference?) Also, going "above and beyond" doesn't necessarily mean working longer hours. It can mean doing more than the average mediocre person. It means trying not to say "not my job" for something that you have the ability to do and may only take an extra 15 minutes. It means doing the best of your ability and not just settling for "i's ok". The tricky part is not needing to have someone work longer due to them being slow. Why should you be eligible for extra pay when maybe other employees finish within normal hours? I have to pay someone to stay late because they talk all day, take 8 smoke breaks, walk slow, file slow, answer the phone slow and are generally lazy? The funny part is...You're not holding companies accountable....you're just not getting the quality jobs that you want. They're going to motivated, efficient people that go "above and beyond" people like you.

[@pattyb8904]

​@@ruffxm lol do you actually believe that bullcrap you just typed?

[@jjohnson2044]

$3 an hour for taxes, transportation costs, food, housing you never stay at, over policing. You run at a loss.

[@russellm2555]

If you're a good worker then you should learn to negotiate your value. The company isn't going to just throw money at you

[@russellm2555]

@@kafizzle8509 And you get more money by proving your worth through hard work. The problem is the hard workers don't know how to communicate and use their track record as leverage to negotiate for more money. No company is going to let an exceptional worker walk over a dollar dispute. It's better to communicate and negotiate instead of keeping your mouth shut and letting the bitterness eat you until you quit. Stand up for yourself

[@t-bone3657]

Don’t overthink the matter. When we no longer based hiring and promotion on merit and instead implemented affirmative action, diversity & inclusion, we dug our own graves. This was not an accident btw…

[@garrett3441]

That’s the freaking truth!

[@theLandJackal]

Bingo.

[@frunokhan]

When the pigs took over the farm, Boxer, the hard working horse, never stopped working for the farm. He worked day and night until one rainy day as he was working he slipped and got himself hurt and was unable to work for the farm anymore. After years of loyalty and hard work and motivating the other farm animals, the pigs decided to turn Boxer in... to the glue factories.

[@supermash1]

Great comment.

[@warrenbraithwaite5507]

In Canada, although many issues we are compensated for work injuries regardless of jurisdiction.

[@arbogast4950]

@@warrenbraithwaite5507 That's not a very well constructed sentence.

[@arbogast4950]

@@warrenbraithwaite5507 You don't live in a free country either.

[@fleatactical7390]

Boxer should have left when the pigs took over. Instead, Boxer allowed himself to become a victim. Get it?

[@rogerkipwell1041]

I once worked for a small company. I was employee 3 and employee 2 had left. The owner kept promising to send me for more training and talked about giving me a small piece of the company. I worked hard, put in long hours to get the job done, and went over and above. None of those good things happened. He laid me off and hired his brother. The company grew and grew. The last that I could find numbers, he was making about $3.5 million a year.

[@OffGridInvestor]

Being told you will have a share of the company when it gets bigger IS A RED FLAG. Seen it before.

[@debblouin]

Maybe your leaving was good for him.

[@dansand6813]

Bunch of millionaires crying about why they "dont know why younger people dont want to work" shows how much the media is out of touch with the general public.

[@WiredCountDuckula]

Watch Fox News see the bizarre and they deliver

[@killmeister2271]

underrated comment

[@bobbyosborne2375]

THIS ALL DAY LONG

[@erinjames4024]

I was thinking the same thing, a revolution is coming!

[@keerpuntbelgiekapitalisto5014]

Do you think only millionaires need plumbers, welders, window fitters and so on? We will talk when you need a service or goods and they become unavailable because we have no production workers. Your comments I childish makes me wonder how old you are.

[@KiteCorp]

Minimum wage didn’t keep up with inflation, major company’s have recorded profits year after year and yet their employees pay check stretches shorter and shorter. People are doing their 40 hours, with minimum effort because they are not being paid a livable wage. People are giving up on work, company’s gave up on people, people are just finely give up on the company’s too.

[@gifthorse3675]

$18 barely works in rural Georgia

[@janelleg597]

Americans are absurdly in debt and overspend. There is no accountability

[@swaghauler8334]

@@janelleg597 Define "overspend!" Food prices are up 30%. Medical expenses have DOUBLED in the last 10 years. Rent has gone up by 25%. HALF of America makes roughly $32K per year or less (according to the US IRS) down from $42K per year in 2000. That's right, not only have the costs of living increased since the turn of the century, but the Median Wage has fallen 24% since 2000. People have lost faith in the American Dream.

[@Gtmustangmt]

Wages absolutely have to increase! And profit margins have to be regulated or good enough! Wall Street is the problem. Yes we all want those stocks to increase but it gets to a point where the employees wages are the last thing to decrease to keep things going up

[@ssnerd583]

Yep....and you could work at a GOOD(supposedly) company for 20 years and only get a $1/hr raise as the max pay only went up $1 in 20 years.....that happened at a company I worked for after the founder of the company got too old and the kids and grand kids took over and......that was it....all done. Another wallyworld where working sucks real real bad and your employer is evil....way WAY more evil than you can imagine.

[@Josephusofantioch13]

It's common for an employee who goes above and beyond to be overlooked for a promotion because "we really need them in their current position." Sadly, in one's best interest to not be too good at their job, just good enough.

[@jonnyg9330]

Yeah have to be careful, sometimes it can work in your favor if you negotiate properly.

[@smocahontas1091]

@@jonnyg9330 rarely does, management loves to keep people below them instead of promoting them to keep the power balance to something they are comfortable with and used to

[@cementi4381]

100% this. I have personally had this happen and seen it happen many times while others "failed upwards" while all their co workers scratched their heads how the most useless person on the shift got promoted. They didn't work hard, they didn't do an amazing job, hell they didn't even do the overtime. I was raised to do the best job I can and I still will do that. The endless overtime though, won't do it anymore as that is focusing on a work life balance, doesn't mean I slack at work though. If a company has 2 hours of overtime everyday or insist on 6 days a week half of every month however they can hire more people. I want to enjoy my life while I still can. Also, it's not just younger people. Everyone of all ages work ethic overall has deteriorated for various different reasons.

[@shanehanson7514]

Exactly I was stuck on weekend nights because of that very thing for 9 years. Was told we like you were you are at because I don't get calls at home from you. I said that's fine but I want to be compensation for that. Nope! I just created my own prison as they say... I'm a gen. Xer and lately all I am hearing from Mike Row is employer propaganda. Very disappointing.... there are real workers issues .

[@gudmundursteinar]

This is when you need to hand in your resignation and tell the employer you'll recind it if you get a promotion.

[@PlumCrazyHomesteader]

The problem I have found is that companies embrace mediocrity and attack, suppress, and fire those who excel, who have exceptional work ethics, who want to help the company excel, who strive to continually learn new things while also having a substantial knowledge base, who have lots of experience, who have outstanding customer service skills, and who even get along with fellow employees. This is supremely frustrating for those of us who WANT to work, but our genuine efforts mean nothing to companies who are content with being average and fearful of excelling. Self-employment is so much more worthwhile!

[@andreachilton6037]

Hammer, meet nail... You nailed it for me

[@jamesstrickland517]

I remember when going to work for a company where you worked hard and were loyal to the company, the company paid you a fair wage, for your insurance and the company was loyal to the employee. When workers became nothing more than a number and were constantly told you can be replaced destroyed that loyalty and trust. There was a time you worked for a company for your entire life and retired with a pension, now you work 4-5 years and they let you go as it is cheaper to hire someone new with no experience than to give you a promotion and salary increase.

[@MultiBearsfan54]

it’s unions that did this not companies. Unions are the most openly corrupt system in America. companies don’t mind paying you more they have a problem with being told they have to raise everyone’s pay all at once. it’s ridiculous and people have been brainwashed to believe these modern day monsters protect you. All I ever hear is people complain about their union on god 🤣😂

[@timfatout5339]

You are correct. The difference now is that today workers are just a number to the employer. They don't care is the worker is happy, sick, or even a legal citizen. They don't care if you leave, and they are very biased in their hiring (that is why saying labor market is strong because unemployment is low is incorrect - labor market is weak).

[@Duke_of_Prunes]

The idea that you would be hired and expect lifetime employment and a pension ended with the very oldest of boomers. It certainly wasn't like that when I entered the workforce more than 40 years ago. If anything, it's become worse, but Americans have also had 40+ years to figure out that most companies will kick you to the curb if it saves them 50 cents an hour.

[@kathymc234]

It is sad to read from low performance employees that they aren't getting raises & promotions because "it's the company's fault". Are you expecting a performance trophy? I only left one job that felt dead end. And that was only after I had been there 3 years and learned everything I could from them. That experience looked great on my resume & led to my biggest job. Any job that doesn't give you full time benefits isn't a career. Good luck people

[@neilbarber2771]

I agree with everything you said 👍

[@keats182]

It's less about being lazy and more about realizing or at least feeling like the system really is rigged. It's called despair.

[@dead2802]

exactly! I thought for a long time nobody felt it but me. damm did I find out different!

[@Kjklump]

That's what I feel like. I've worked in construction for over 20 years. When I first started it felt like you could make it somewhere, but now it just doesn't seem possible. Just seems like it's impossible to get ahead in life when the rules keep changing.

[@tmgha6876]

YES

[@ryanmcginness2888]

Yep. You used the term perfectly.

[@paulsawczyc5019]

@@Kjklump Of course - the whole idea of the money system is to keep you poor, not rich.

[@7318ify]

The problem is that company loyalty does not benefit the worker anymore. You will be better compensated moving to a new position in a different company rather than sticking it out. And 30+ years of stagnant wages not rising with inflation definitely doesn't help. Work is absolutely not the same as it was 40 years ago. These people need to realize that.

[@ScottH.]

My thoughts exactly. I'm not sure who made Mike Rowe the authority on this subject but when is the last time he worked a corporate job and been forced to work 60 to 70 hour weeks with no compensation because you're on salary. Then the company posts record profits but when it comes time to get your raise and bonus they find every excuse in the book to give you as little as possible but somehow find a way to give their CEO millions of dollars more each year. These 2 are so out of touch with reality and Mike's arrogant little chuckles just shows how little he really understands what people are going through now.

[@randomuser8945]

Company loyalty NEVER benefits the worker. That's why we have Unions.

[@veeforteeto5976]

I think it's multi-factor, the most recent surge in institutional non-working people is driven by the covid lockdowns. Once a person gets out of the habit of working 9:00 to 5:00, and instead working for themselves repairing their property, etc, it's very difficult for them to go back and work in a mostly hostile passive aggressive work environment with subparpay and stressful commuting distances. Not to mention the prep time to get ready to go to work etc. With the End of Time approaching rapidly, most people are deciding to get their house in order rather than waste time at a place with postmodern Machiavellian perv politics, low IQ turkey supervisors and people who don't appreciate them or pay them what they're worth while the executives of the corporations make hundreds of times their salary and are rewarded MULTI MILLION$ golden parachutes even if they drive the companies into the ground.

[@TheProdigalMeowMeowMeowReturns]

You don’t need “company loyalty” to have a good work ethic. And “good work ethic” doesn’t mean harming yourself to help the company. But it does entail doing the tasks you’re hired to do…

[@johnnynewt9498]

Amen !

[@Drawkcabi]

You can have a healthy work ethic while at the same time not letting your employer exploit you. I think employers have (always) been running a strong -con- campaign trying to disabuse workers of that idea but have pushed things to a point recently where workers are saying "enough!"

[@michaelibach9063]

When work no longer provides the carrot, you stop working for the carrot. I worked for a decade at the same place. Years of service didn’t matter. Good reviews were meaningless. My income never moved unless they changed the amount they paid my position. New hires made exactly the same as I did. Promoting was done more by who’s going fishing with who or who’s friends with who, ability had nothing to do with it. At another job, this person had access to information nobody else had access to. They completely ignored what was supposed to be repaired and what was prepared to be repaired on their shift and instead cherry picked the repairs that made the company the most profit and kept records so after three years of ignoring what needed to be repaired, they could get a huge bonus because they made the company x amount of money. They were literally praised for ignoring management, disrupting product flow and creating unnecessary inefficiencies. I’d rather panhandle and sleep outside than play these games anymore. Here’s my life goals, are you ready? Wife and kids, full stop, nothing else matters. I don’t care what job I have to do to get paid. I’m not emotionally invested in my job. Everything and anything I do, is to obtain that goal, ok? So when your corrupted corporation fails to help me obtain that goal. When my hours of labor and time spent don’t get me the money I need to support a family. I don’t care what your goals are anymore. My income wasn’t for me. If a full time job only affords me enough money to keep myself happy, to keep food on my plate, to keep a roof over my head, there’s a serious problem and that needs to be addressed, asap.

[@jonmorton9267]

This

[@danbert7304]

Over and over I’ve watched the least skilled employees get paid more and promoted over the hardest working employees. That’s why we quit going above and beyond. There is literally zero benefit other than having more work piled on you to make up for the slack of the morons that are soon to be in management.

[@cornsdoggs44]

Absolutely

[@ayabokti161]

It's true. Although I am no longer in the workforce, I see it in companies I've hired to do work at my place.

[@danbert7304]

And for perspective everyone at my job makes over 100k.

[@smelltheglove2038]

When Covid happened, then the riots, they laid off all the competent workers and kept the diversity. Company is no longer in business. They kept failing inspections and got kicked off their contracts.

[@manmadeaids]

I stopped working a 100 percent at corporate jobs for the exact same thing. You just are expected to do more for the same pay as some shmuck that does half the work you do.

[@Dingdongwitchisdead]

People aren’t to keen on working for greedy oligarchs, disloyal companies, cheap wages, having to make a choice between an ungodly amount of hours for advancement or spending time with the family.

[@The1JBanks]

You took the words out of my mouth. It’s not that I won’t work I just won’t work for nothing. Housing costs are thru the roof I need to get paid more just to live.

[@offlineraided]

Bingo

[@davidschmidt6013]

"Well said" does not even BEGIN to describe this comment. Absolutely perfect! The dems have removed all the rewards of the traditional work ethic.

[@jeffarnold3800]

@@davidschmidt6013 what policies would you say have done this

[@oogabooga7882]

looting is our trade. we is experts. support your local Looters Union.

[@milesp8620]

As a single father of 4, one recommendation that I have for young people regardless of gender is this: Do not conceive more children than you can raise solely on your sole income. If you choose otherwise, just be prepared that you may have children that you cannot afford to feed.

[@nonebusiness2331]

It’s so funny how they think that it’s because people don’t want to work it’s because people are sick of being treated like crap

[@monabo1]

"Student loan debt "forgiveness "". Is not "forgivness" the debt still needs to be paid, just by somebody else

[@goodolearkygal5746]

How is it that the same group that swears a 5yr old is mature enough to decide about lasting changes to their bodies, also believe an 18yr old isn't able to understand what a loan paper "really" meant...?

[@jmcgarvey1234]

Student loans can be as high as 12 percent. Obama wanted to allow borrowers to refinance down to lower interest same as someone may do on home mortgage. McConel l crushed that idea. Cant refinance? Cant declare bankruptcy like business can. Banks get money from federal government at 2 percent, let's say. Then lend it 10 percent, let's say. They make 8 percent for shareholders with our money. Banks have already made billions from these lones so they will still be ahead

[@markadams9947]

That somebody else is the working class.

[@Patriot-od6xk]

Yelp... Taxpayers

[@markadams9947]

@Arena Rat What makes you think we don't need an Army?

[@garyg3468]

Still want to see "Dirty Jobs: DC" where Mike Rowe follows around politicians/ federal officers and calls out all their B/S and hypocrisy the whole episode.

[@oliphauntsneverlie6227]

True but it would be more sanitary working in human waste recycling plant!

[@faithbell1807]

Best comment of the day!

[@jacquizbak]

Me tooo...can u send him to canaduh right after...plez!?!!

[@helenbernard3566]

I'd like to see it!!!!

[@helenbernard3566]

I'd like to see it!!!

[@sethkael9839]

Man, I wish I had a nice job so I could also complain about people not wanting to work a job for 40+ hours a week to barely afford a tiny apartment, a used car, and a fast-food diet to essentially stay alive to pay off the degree that got them the job in the first place.

[@James-zy5lh]

A couple things to bear in mind: 1. The millennial generation at the eldest end of the spectrum is in their early 40’s. Most are in the 30’s. These folks are leaders in business at this point and have been doing so for at least a decade. They have had enough work and life experience to make an informed decision on the role work plays in their lives. 2. In addition to their own experiences, most millennials were either in high school, college, or were just starting their own careers when the ‘08 recession hit. Many of them had parents or knew parents of friends who lost jobs during this time, and they got to see first hand that company loyalty had only been a one-way street. They took this lesson and started their own careers already cautious about how things might play out for them. What Covid allowed was a chance for all workers, but perhaps millennials in particular, to assess what was important in life and how work had either enhanced or hindered it. For many millennials, they recognized a few truths: 1. Many jobs expect 100% loyalty and effort but do not provide the same in return with small or non-existent merit increases, poor PTO offerings, expensive healthcare plans, unpredictable or inflexible schedules, no pensions, etc… 2. Significant salary increases only come with changing jobs and not working up the company ladder. Going the extra mile at one job has often not been worth it. 3. What was once financially possible with only one working adult in a partnership often requires two these days. Inflation and stagnant wage growth since the 1970’s have zapped the purchasing power of adults - delaying weddings, home purchases, starting families, etc… in other words, the American Dream isn’t being realized by many. 4. As mentioned, millennials are now leaders in many businesses. Many of them are responsible for either aspects of or entire P&L statements. For those running successful business silos, stores, warehousing operations, etc… they understand how much profit is left on the table and how they and everyone else isn’t getting a better piece of the pie despite their work directly generating it. Add this all together, and it’s no surprise the outlook on work has changed for many. I enjoy Mike Rowe and the work he has done, but the pride in one’s job that he discusses does not pay the bills, and the unreturned loyalty towards one’s job just makes that worker a sucker.

[@dreamsofturtles1828]

I am 65 years old. My dad was a "company man" with Johns Manville. He was one of their top salesman & got several awards. He had total loyalty to that company & they took care of him with good health insurance and regular raises based on his performance. When he was in a terrible car accident they stuck by him. He fought his way back to being able to work again & after half a year his job was still waiting for him- as they said it would be. My mother never had to work. I guess those days are over.

[@LM-gg9tg]

Yessir very well put

[@salutations5749]

Best Comment !!

[@kevinkuhl2766]

In about a decade the oldest millennials will be leaders in business, but I agree with you that many have seen the light of truth; that is, hard work often does not pay. In the past there was much more of an implicit "loyalty clause".

[@dreamsofturtles1828]

@@techtutorvideos I agree. My grandfather the same. . He could barely speak english, but he worked like hell , raised 4 kids and retired in a house he owned . It wasnt fancy, but to him it was heaven bc in the old country he would have had nothing. How sad this seems to be the case now in the US. Yes, greed is the downfall. I dont know how people who have so much still want more. I will say in my area the plumbrrs, electricians and skilled carpenters seem to do well and have more work than they can handle. But its hard work and they get stress injuries. But they cant send those jobs overseas ! .

[@mikecatalanottojr41]

Most employers expect too much, pay too little and then they think they own you. People are tired of it.

[@realmichaud]

I've been saying exactly that since I started working. I guess it took a small percentage of the populace to figure it out after 30+ years.

[@notrobbie7893]

Hear! Hear!

[@d4ever649]

Yes! I feel so trapped.

[@neanderthalsnavel7411]

Absolutely true. Rowe needs to understand that there is a deep owner/slave attitude in today's workplace. This "owner taking the risk" allowing for more profit and this attitude is b.s.

[@kimberlybailey754]

So true😰

[@avalanche5150]

Some people haven't realized that you don't find happiness at work, you bring it with you.

[@andrewslagle1974]

I guess you never did what truly made you happy, when you find that its not work any more!

[@glock19gen3]

You can only bring so much before the company snuffs it out of you

[@backintimealwyn5736]

BS . I think people don't want to work anymore because they have no motivation. Something's broken . They don't want to have children, they don't build relationships , they will never be able to afford a house, they are persuaded that the world is going to end because of climate change . So in the end if it's just about the money , if work does'nt bring you anything, if it sucks , if you hate it , why bother if noone depends on you? I think companies are faced with a backlash of what they've been promoting : extreme individualism, terrified people with no hope , no purpose , no goals. The same is happening in China, people just don't see the point anymore. Work does'nt only have to pay , the all economic system must provide a chance to do something with yourslef.

[@williamweigt7632]

Very well-said. 👍

[@tonyanaymik]

Yes I understand that statement I just don’t think it applies across the board equally for every situation on the planet

[@3lbUniverse]

You guys are spot on. No loan forgiveness. While you are at it, no tax loopholes. People that pay taxes should not have to pick up the tab for tax cheats.

[@brentsnyder5564]

How about no PPP loan bailouts or wall street, banking, insert industry name here bailouts. We have a free flow policy on these bailouts. But the mention that the working class or poor can participate in the above said bailout practice. It's time to burn the witches. We live in a funny country.

[@ruffxm]

@@brentsnyder5564 It's really due to you not understanding things. People mock what they don't understand.

[@brentsnyder5564]

@@ruffxm What's there to understand? Enlighten us, please? Is that like maintaining irresponsible behavior like placing mass profits first or catering to investors and CEOs in businesses instead of saving for a rainy day fund? So when a natural or a national emergency happens, that you have money to stay open or pay your employees? Like, what happened with COVID? What don't I understand? That the bailing out of industries or business is an excellent economic policy? Because we are all interconnected to them economically? But could we not make the same argument of ensuring the consumer has maximum resources to consume or even paying livable wages? Further, What was damaging to the economy during the start of the lockdown was not the measures in place to protect citizens, etc. It was the irresponsible business practices of most businesses. Where was the safety net? There was none. The argument is not that bailing out industries or businesses is terrible economic policy, but the emphasis on moral standards by people to justify actions is the issue. We continue to bail out irresponsible behavior for the wealthy and corporations but then use unmoving moral arguments against bailing out the working class in our country. Like students signed up for student loans, they should pay them back. But business owners signed for PPP loans. But we forgave them. Sure, we can argue that the government forced them to close business, so they are not responsible. However, could we not make the same argument economically due to a national emergency to justify forgiving student loans or even just paying livable wages? In conclusion, I mock classism and hypocritical people's moral standards. Irresponsible behavior is just that. Crap we can send trillions overseas to people who don't even pay taxes or citizens.

[@telewag-travel]

Work is no longer worthwhile for many. If you cannot live even a basic decent life on current salary levels, why bother?

[@mitchmoe6224]

At that point you find a new type of work that pays better. Why is that concept so difficult for some to understand.

[@telewag-travel]

@@mitchmoe6224 the point is that current salary levels do not provide the same lifestyle that they once did. Wages have stagnated for years, whilst inflation and costs have risen. Money is being extracted from the poor and middle classes to the rich. This has been happening for decades. Why is that concept so difficult for some to understand?

[@jeffarnold3800]

@@telewag-travel cuz all the meemaws and peepaws commenting stopped working decades ago and have just been watching their home and net worth skyrocket in value and think it’s basically easy to be in the middle class. That was their experience and they don’t understand the dynamics you just mentioned

[@HateDietPepsi]

You work hard, which damages your health, to obtain a feminist's trophy wife, who leaves you, takes half your wealth and sticks you with alimony/child support. What did that get you?

[@jeffarnold3800]

@@dldiss5208then why do conservatives yammer on about the poor not paying their fair share and the rich paying all of the taxes?