They Tried To Hide Isaiah Thomas's *HORRIFIC* Downfall

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Mike Korzemba

Mike Korzemba

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@edwardkimakaballislifekim_578
@edwardkimakaballislifekim_578 7 ай бұрын
Boston Isaiah was different 😢
@hakeemolajuwon4352
@hakeemolajuwon4352 7 ай бұрын
Do you know what a fluke is?
@MikeKorzemba
@MikeKorzemba 7 ай бұрын
Big facts
@edwardkimakaballislifekim_578
@edwardkimakaballislifekim_578 7 ай бұрын
@@hakeemolajuwon4352 no
@kennethxu1789
@kennethxu1789 7 ай бұрын
@@hakeemolajuwon4352he was legit offensively. Boston didn’t see a future with him so they didn’t give him the reality of his injury and shipped him out. The reality is that at any level below the NBA, he’s competitive. Not a fluke
@MrMeMyselfandI
@MrMeMyselfandI 7 ай бұрын
@@hakeemolajuwon4352hater
@Reereez4795
@Reereez4795 7 ай бұрын
Mr. 4th Quarter!!! Forget what Paul Pierce said. IT4 will forever be a Boston legend. Nothing but love for that man
@user-yh2rd1hc7s
@user-yh2rd1hc7s 7 ай бұрын
They lied about his injury to keep his trade value high and got Kyrie. The problem is that he also kept playing because they told him he only had a bruise. That's what broke his hip and he was already traded. Yeah that's dirty.
@conniewaynewalters6414
@conniewaynewalters6414 7 ай бұрын
They should fine the teams hiding medical info
@Parodyzrus
@Parodyzrus 7 ай бұрын
Celtics will never get a ring in this era for how dirty they did this a man
@trellsmith4075
@trellsmith4075 7 ай бұрын
How they made a smart decision they would of gave him that money they would have been stupid
@bradylewis9698
@bradylewis9698 7 ай бұрын
For doing something that made the most sense? Why wouldn't you trade a washed injured 5'7 guy for Kyrie if the opportunity presents itself??
@yellowball597
@yellowball597 7 ай бұрын
​@@trellsmith4075IT said in a podcast that the Celtics doctors were not clear to him how bad was his injury bruh. It's not even about the contract. The dude lost his sister, had an injury, and the team doctors lied to him and allowed him to play despite a really bad hip injury and ruined his career
@q-j-p
@q-j-p 7 ай бұрын
Dealing Danny is gone as a GM we’ve been in a new era lol, but IT will forever be ❤ by C’s nation he knows that ☘️
@Parodyzrus
@Parodyzrus 7 ай бұрын
@@yellowball597 they literally even show a clip of that in this video 😂 some people make up there mind then hear facts
@SNAG-td5tk
@SNAG-td5tk 7 ай бұрын
He gave the shorts kings 👑 Hope 🙏🏾☔️
@MikeKorzemba
@MikeKorzemba 7 ай бұрын
So true, maybe we ll see a shorter player one day shoutout Isaiah as inspiration
@bodentalks
@bodentalks 7 ай бұрын
You didn't tell the full story of him getting backlash when Kevin love was saying he had anxiety about playing and Isiah did not back him on that. That was the reason why he was traded to the Lakers from the Cavaliers.
@Letthat
@Letthat 7 ай бұрын
The reason why he aint back him was because that 2018 cavs ran the only lebron system here lebron refused to play defense
@BigPlasticPlant
@BigPlasticPlant 7 ай бұрын
The defensive plus minus isn’t always as relevant as the numbers suggest. The Celtics may have been better defensively when IT sat, but no one was scoring either, their next highest scorer was Avery Bradley with like 16ppg. You’re not winning games when the rest of the starters give you 50 points accumulatively. The fact IT took that team as far as he did is just incredible.
@red._.thunderyt5472
@red._.thunderyt5472 3 ай бұрын
THATS WHAT IM SAYINGGGGG
@dashawngonsoulin6541
@dashawngonsoulin6541 7 ай бұрын
The nba did him bad
@ShavonnShow
@ShavonnShow 7 ай бұрын
The Celtics did him bad
@dashawngonsoulin6541
@dashawngonsoulin6541 7 ай бұрын
@@ShavonnShow it started with them
@bradylewis9698
@bradylewis9698 7 ай бұрын
You mean his body and genes did him bad. 😂
@dashawngonsoulin6541
@dashawngonsoulin6541 7 ай бұрын
@@bradylewis9698 bullshit
@ShavonnShow
@ShavonnShow 7 ай бұрын
IT was and is a hell of a player just in unfortunate circumstances
@truthyahweh9877
@truthyahweh9877 7 ай бұрын
He should have got that hip surgery done right away
@jimbobfisher8904
@jimbobfisher8904 7 ай бұрын
Ya but the hoe ass Boston team doctors said play on it.
@MikeKorzemba
@MikeKorzemba 7 ай бұрын
Really unfortunate he didn’t, sad he worked so hard and never got a real pay day
@stevenkoudanis5238
@stevenkoudanis5238 4 ай бұрын
We all cried with IT when that happened to his little sister. Was a very sad time, IT is the man forever loved in Boston
@Boe3
@Boe3 7 ай бұрын
9:10 that Skal dude was legit he was a 5 star recruit but the earthquake at his hometown ruined his career before it started sadly
@tachyon108
@tachyon108 7 ай бұрын
great video on Isiah. Mike, can you do a video on Sabonis and why there's a bandwagon of haters that surrounds him, even though the guy leads NBA this season in rebounds and triple doubles. Imo this is the most perplexing story of the year.
@SgtCrypto
@SgtCrypto 7 ай бұрын
It goes to show, that you should NEVER put your health (and personal life) before the organization. Boston & Danny Ainge did him dirty.
@matthewstrach4135
@matthewstrach4135 7 ай бұрын
As a cavs fan, I remember talking myself in thinking the cavs UPGRADED before the 2018 season by getting IT and some draft picks, on top of acquiring D Wade and D Rose. But deep down even I knew, it was the beginning of the end of an era in Cleveland. I just remembered how good IT was the year before and thought he could produce offensively just as much as kyrie did, but he was just never the same after that year.
@jamespressman1202
@jamespressman1202 7 ай бұрын
Naaa. The moment i knew IT was coming i already knew it would be a disaster. IT can score but he cant rebound or defend his position we need a guy like PG if only PG is not bitter to what bron did to him who knows he had a ring already.
@matthewstrach4135
@matthewstrach4135 7 ай бұрын
@@jamespressman1202 I mean Kyrie was not a good defender or rebounder either. If we actually got prime IT instead of injured IT, I think we might remember those years a lot differently.
@jamespressman1202
@jamespressman1202 7 ай бұрын
@@matthewstrach4135 i dont think so. Kyrie is not great defender but a reliable defender and rebounder compare to IT. It doesnt show in stats but he gave steph a nightmare match up.
@RasheedsChair
@RasheedsChair 7 ай бұрын
Die hard Celtics fan here. Been riding with the team since their worst season on record in 1997. IT4 was one of the most likable/electric players I’ve seen in my nearly 30 years as a fan. That 2017 season was incredible and he was the only reason we were competitive during it. Danny Ainge made the right business decision for the team but it definitely was scummy. I was really hoping Brad would sign IT this year as a depth piece to potentially help with our title run and get a ring. But yeah this man needs additional compensation from Boston.
@Lul_davey
@Lul_davey 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for bringing light on Isiah I’ve wanted someone to make a good video about him so underrated
@MikeKorzemba
@MikeKorzemba 7 ай бұрын
Appreciate you, I agree for sure that 2017 season was special
@hakeemolajuwon4352
@hakeemolajuwon4352 7 ай бұрын
He's super overrated
@wayneenglish17
@wayneenglish17 7 ай бұрын
@@hakeemolajuwon4352no he’s not
@Lul_davey
@Lul_davey 7 ай бұрын
@@MikeKorzemba🙏🏽
@andreamicucci2396
@andreamicucci2396 7 ай бұрын
I be wondering wtf happened to Avery Bradley too, he was hoopin with IT4 back then too
@soft-games4074
@soft-games4074 5 ай бұрын
I don’t understand why this guy gets much less views than 3 years ago
@soft-games4074
@soft-games4074 5 ай бұрын
5+ years ago
@afkpunk4145
@afkpunk4145 6 ай бұрын
We will never forget Isaiah Thomas that man was a absolute bucket celtics did him dirty
@blockmonster8
@blockmonster8 7 ай бұрын
What a story!
@MikeKorzemba
@MikeKorzemba 7 ай бұрын
Appreciate it block!
@joshforest304
@joshforest304 7 ай бұрын
Nice vid Mike, I'm so glad someone made the IT to Ben Simmons comparison. Complete opposites physically, mentally, pick in the draft, heart, love for the game, loyalty and the outcomes after injury ($). IT keeps running the marathon though he's gonna be fine. He's still a millionaire from basketball (at his height!) and 5 years in the NBA is the average anyway. Slow Grind ❤
@youngtoneski7868
@youngtoneski7868 7 ай бұрын
i remember one his first games in Cleveland, IT and bron threw the ball back and forth a few times and bron giving a head nod like go show us something.
@lilpronto3627
@lilpronto3627 7 ай бұрын
He was doing what Brunson doing in NY right now 😅
@neilbryanbucsit197
@neilbryanbucsit197 7 ай бұрын
Reality hit him hard
@tylerbox7867
@tylerbox7867 7 ай бұрын
Way to shout out the I.T. guy
@polobrown28
@polobrown28 7 ай бұрын
They destroyed this man career
@zakiboudjemaa3750
@zakiboudjemaa3750 7 ай бұрын
He's a one way, ball dominant guard who happens to be too small. Also hip injury.
@InfiniteCoreXD
@InfiniteCoreXD 7 ай бұрын
There are a bunch of one way players that’s nonsense
@zakiboudjemaa3750
@zakiboudjemaa3750 7 ай бұрын
@InfiniteCoreXD seems like you didn't read my comment. I'll give you another shot.
@InfiniteCoreXD
@InfiniteCoreXD 7 ай бұрын
@@zakiboudjemaa3750 zaki I don’t care what you say, that hip injury is long from over. It was over way before this and he was in shape, they just ain’t sign him.
@zakiboudjemaa3750
@zakiboudjemaa3750 7 ай бұрын
@InfiniteCoreXD you're something special. Have a nice day though, because it seems like it has been harsh for you today.
@InfiniteCoreXD
@InfiniteCoreXD 7 ай бұрын
@@zakiboudjemaa3750 thank you. You take care too, I love you.
@nicktheking05
@nicktheking05 7 ай бұрын
Your vid just popped up on my timeline for the first time since your Kobe not human video😂
@Pareng_Doc
@Pareng_Doc 7 ай бұрын
That's WHY I don't like BOSTON CELTICS to win championship because of this. I was a fan of IT3.
@gavynchapman1808
@gavynchapman1808 7 ай бұрын
I wish there was a way IT could have sued the Celtics or something. Celtics are my favorite team for 20 years now but we definitely did him dirty and I hate it.
@Vanguard_pluto
@Vanguard_pluto 7 ай бұрын
Noti gang
@MikeKorzemba
@MikeKorzemba 7 ай бұрын
My man my man hope you liked the vid!
@Vanguard_pluto
@Vanguard_pluto 7 ай бұрын
@@MikeKorzemba you know I gotta hit that like button 👍
@blksheepgaming6656
@blksheepgaming6656 7 ай бұрын
In the video you state IT was second to Kobe Bryant .... but it was actually Russell Westbrook in 2017 that had the highest 4th quarter PPG in history. Just a little edit you should make there.
@willingram9751
@willingram9751 7 ай бұрын
You know it's fuckup how yall do someone like Isaiah Thomas who has been through he'll who has fought through the death of his sister and a injury just to give up on him like that I promise you God sees 👀 all and knows all God never forgets
@almightyfonics
@almightyfonics 7 ай бұрын
IT was like Steph Curry with a 40 inch vert
@dizzyhindrix
@dizzyhindrix 7 ай бұрын
You wild he hand a hip injury and needed surgery and the Celtics didn’t want him to have it
@lordtraxx4217
@lordtraxx4217 7 ай бұрын
It’s so crazy to me that IT has the Celtics record for most 20 pt games Ina row
@posivibe989
@posivibe989 7 ай бұрын
The game is so much easier when you can carry the ball
@hhghlsjdid4203
@hhghlsjdid4203 7 ай бұрын
One of my favourite players
@hakeemolajuwon4352
@hakeemolajuwon4352 7 ай бұрын
You can always tell who the casuals are when they gush over a fluke season to justify playing a below average player for emotions
@fredericsouthworth2707
@fredericsouthworth2707 7 ай бұрын
Spoken like a true casual
@hakeemolajuwon4352
@hakeemolajuwon4352 7 ай бұрын
@@fredericsouthworth2707 calling Isaiah Thomas below average is actually generous
@InfiniteCoreXD
@InfiniteCoreXD 7 ай бұрын
@@hakeemolajuwon4352 you out here bashing Isaiah like you have to. Dude mad he 5 9 in the nba, you on your couch all life.
@anonymoussquirrel1240
@anonymoussquirrel1240 7 ай бұрын
I single handedly won my fantasy basketball that year because of him. Literally gave 1rd round numbers all season.
@nochturnalj3238
@nochturnalj3238 7 ай бұрын
This was one of the dirtiest moves in NBA history! That Celtics Karma hit different 😈
@TheCarpentersApprentice
@TheCarpentersApprentice 7 ай бұрын
Torres’s sounds brilliant but still kinda looks wacky to me
@alucardbrahmstone6659
@alucardbrahmstone6659 7 ай бұрын
This is why this talk about loyalty to the team is BS!!! when the team wants to trade you they will trade you period!!
@laurorangel8632
@laurorangel8632 7 ай бұрын
Make a kemba walker video
@salsadude12
@salsadude12 7 ай бұрын
Dark past? Bait title
@makgeoff
@makgeoff 7 ай бұрын
We'll never know the truth of the Celtics' assessment but only IT4 has the best interests to play through it because he's due for a max, which he said "bring on the brinx truck" in public multiple times. So maybe he chose to do it while he knew very well he's not going to get a max from Celtics but show enough to get a big contract elsewhere. Stevens knew they'll not win a championship with IT4 due to his defensive liabilities. Kyrie wanted out while Cavs just wanted to get their 1st pick.
@wedabestradi096
@wedabestradi096 7 ай бұрын
Isaih was lethal in Boston, i wish the best for bro
@bradylewis9698
@bradylewis9698 7 ай бұрын
He's a 5'7" dude with that suffered a hip injury. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize why he dropped off hard. 😂
@GourSmith
@GourSmith 7 ай бұрын
He’s 5’9. Easy now.
@hakeemolajuwon4352
@hakeemolajuwon4352 7 ай бұрын
He's just not that good
@GourSmith
@GourSmith 7 ай бұрын
@@hakeemolajuwon4352 True. But when you consider he’s basically a midget playing with giants … I gotta put some respect on his skill set. Imagine if he was 6’3+
@jamespressman1202
@jamespressman1202 7 ай бұрын
​@@GourSmithnaaa. Even if hes 6'3 but the way he defends he will still be a trade piece to a team.
@GourSmith
@GourSmith 7 ай бұрын
@@jamespressman1202 He be better at 6’3 than 5’9 is all I said. That’s a fact. I didn’t say he’d be a goat or anything crazy. Just that he’d have had a better chance in the league. He never really belonged in the league but still did alright for a short time.
@CoachJohnMcGuirk
@CoachJohnMcGuirk 7 ай бұрын
"Mike" so called "Korzemba" . Suuuuuure. You think we are THAT gullible? Everyone knows there's no such thing.
@acetheballer3318
@acetheballer3318 7 ай бұрын
Plain and simple he got traded to the Cavs and wasn’t the same after
@Parodyzrus
@Parodyzrus 7 ай бұрын
I think that injury he played through with the Celtics has more to do with it that being traded 😂
@bradylewis9698
@bradylewis9698 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, it has nothing to do with having a hip injury when you're a short guy with no defense relying on quickness
@RambisRants
@RambisRants 7 ай бұрын
I would say any team who wants to legit win would take a talent him and use his abilities in some capacity. However it is clear the NBA is now entertainment the same as say a sitcom, or the NFL. Sad that some still think these games are left to whoever the best team is will win, with billions of dollars at stake in Vegas on a nightly basis, for 9 months every year. 🤓👏But I’m sure it was just Doneghy…🤨
@Somebodys-unc
@Somebodys-unc 7 ай бұрын
Never talk about a bag in celtics
@bandito241
@bandito241 7 ай бұрын
How can you blame a guy for flipping you the fingers for wanting a frosty?
@strongislandx
@strongislandx 7 ай бұрын
I'm a huge LeBron fan but that clip of him standing there almost pouting is hard to watch
@RE1GN_BLOOD
@RE1GN_BLOOD 7 ай бұрын
His head swole up like a pumpkin at the time. Wouldn’t stop telling the world how much of underdog he was. In fairness he also had a lot of turmoil too which all kind of ruined his career.
@dereknunn2699
@dereknunn2699 7 ай бұрын
Once a killa, always a killa...
@kuyo86
@kuyo86 6 ай бұрын
Mike Korzemba doesn't blink??
@osmanbigi5056
@osmanbigi5056 7 ай бұрын
What is the secret dude?! Smh 11 minute and you tell us what we already know
@YBK5
@YBK5 7 ай бұрын
At least he fought all of that and made it to the end of the year with the suns
@leemdream6522
@leemdream6522 7 ай бұрын
Bro changed the title
@Alexred94
@Alexred94 7 ай бұрын
I think what Chicago did to luol deng was worse
@flockaveli15
@flockaveli15 7 ай бұрын
It’s definitely up there. They were honest with Deng unlike Isaiah. Problem was they ain’t even check on this man when he had a damn surgery that could’ve left him dead or paralyzed. With Isaiah they literally lied and had him thinking he was cool and fucked his career. Deng I guess at least got the chance to keep playing his same style years after that injury and gracefully declined. Isaiah hit the damn floor after that hip injury. Both sad situations for them
@A.R_Smiff1537
@A.R_Smiff1537 7 ай бұрын
The rest of the league caught on and exposed his game. Started telegraphing his moves...typical hypeman.
@TheRealBigRisky
@TheRealBigRisky 7 ай бұрын
Tbh since his sister passed he hasn’t been the same. Don’t blame em.
@hoosierdaddy5846
@hoosierdaddy5846 7 ай бұрын
I think him playing with lebron after all that didn't help either. He's a confidence killer for teammates. But I'm sure ya'll think he just makes his teammates better. Ha
@EldenRinging
@EldenRinging 7 ай бұрын
And now Kyrie is Luka's lil' brother.🤷‍♂️lol
@everettdouglas2326
@everettdouglas2326 7 ай бұрын
Kyrie only has 2 game winners? 🤔
@fornhunkle
@fornhunkle 7 ай бұрын
Big loads
@newyardleysinclair9960
@newyardleysinclair9960 7 ай бұрын
Does Carmelo anthony deserve to be in the H.O.F?
@riley420
@riley420 7 ай бұрын
Easily
@edwardkimakaballislifekim_578
@edwardkimakaballislifekim_578 7 ай бұрын
Injuries
@jackyparkchan7762
@jackyparkchan7762 7 ай бұрын
Poor period in his life. Hope he gets through it!
@CoolerDanDem
@CoolerDanDem 7 ай бұрын
Probably because he's short. as much as your good on offense you will always suck on defense. teams will always exploit you and they may not want you starting anymore.
@jakemurphy3352
@jakemurphy3352 7 ай бұрын
Lebum may be the king, but there will always only be one king of the fourth
@jamesbrockingtonjr.6676
@jamesbrockingtonjr.6676 7 ай бұрын
To me his downfall was after the passing of his sister
@garthalamule1095
@garthalamule1095 7 ай бұрын
i dont think he deserved a max after only one good year. if he had kept it up another year or two for sure. but he proved he wasnt worth it and im glad the c's saved the money.
@EricMilos-f5v
@EricMilos-f5v 7 ай бұрын
LBJ destroyed him in the NBA illuminati... But that's why Kyrie Irving is a beast💪🏿👑🏀
@DonLee1980
@DonLee1980 7 ай бұрын
to be honest, he was still good on the offensive end, but defense wise, he's too much of a liability.
@jamespressman1202
@jamespressman1202 7 ай бұрын
He can score but the opponent can score x3 against him especially big men who know how to play inside
@stevieboymkii
@stevieboymkii 7 ай бұрын
It is sad but in reality, it's hard to feel that bad for someone who has well over $30 million. it's the ridiculous salaries that other NBA players and athletes get that make this look bad, when we all know that he will still live an unbelievably comfortable life.
@RobertHorry1956
@RobertHorry1956 7 ай бұрын
I’m glad the Celtics didn’t pay him because we wouldn’t have the team we have now & would of been paying him till this day.
@jimadams8795
@jimadams8795 7 ай бұрын
Clickbait 👎 what "dark past" are u talking about smh
@plebtile3347
@plebtile3347 7 ай бұрын
Being short didn't help
@johnq4354
@johnq4354 7 ай бұрын
IT4 was 🔥
@_Gwuapo
@_Gwuapo 7 ай бұрын
The best thing the Celtics organization ever did was not give him that money because now look how great things turned out. Yeah they probably should’ve went about it in a different way but it is what it is
@aceboogie9670
@aceboogie9670 7 ай бұрын
mike got in a fight w jxmmy
@jamespressman1202
@jamespressman1202 7 ай бұрын
Its IT fault also. He had millions he should consult another expert if he feels something is not right in his body yet he just play it through. Teams dont care about you unless you are a A+ Superstar so take care of yourself when you are earning a million per year a small penny for a consultation/ surgery is worth it than losing your career dont rely so much on the organization. Like kawhi did if he feels he dont want to play he will not play control the organization not other way around.
@alvarosalmeron05
@alvarosalmeron05 7 ай бұрын
I Hope Suns play Boston in the finals this year and I.T. ball out
@Freddie2916
@Freddie2916 7 ай бұрын
Click bait ass title, no one is trying to hide anything you talked about.
@ehe8119
@ehe8119 7 ай бұрын
The curse of Isaiah still lives to this day that’s why Boston will never win a title even they have that winning record each season. 😈
@chrisbeach423
@chrisbeach423 7 ай бұрын
Jeremy Lin and Isaiah Thomas both fell off a cliff right around the same time.
@MikeKorzemba
@MikeKorzemba 7 ай бұрын
Might do a Jeremy Lin video soon tbh
@argeldelacruz9545
@argeldelacruz9545 7 ай бұрын
@@MikeKorzembado it!
@YxngStunnaLewis
@YxngStunnaLewis 7 ай бұрын
King of the 4th 👑🍀🟢
@Nik.No.K
@Nik.No.K 7 ай бұрын
Didn’t even talk about his recent 10 day? I thought this would be a current update, we’ve all heard this story before
@AnthonyRainger-g8u
@AnthonyRainger-g8u 7 ай бұрын
If you look at his stats if you have multiple 20+ ppg seasons then you weren’t a scrub regardless so overall he had a decent career but why tell him to play if you knew the injury was severe ? They did IT bad lol they hadn’t even known if JT & JB could be cornerstones jus yet lol IT takes yall on a deep playoff run an yall trade him while injured lol let’s be real they had no idea that IT would play bad in Cleveland so it was morally wrong to trade him on top of that your doctors (Boston) are the ones who told him play lol Boston was trash for this 😂
@TyrusMiller-cr5ze
@TyrusMiller-cr5ze 7 ай бұрын
This guy has been click bait for years says all the shit we all know over and over again respect to the grind but damn bro
@dezzepson4173
@dezzepson4173 7 ай бұрын
@8:25 WHAT IS THE INSTRUMENTAL/SONG NAME @mikekorzemba?
@kendahl124
@kendahl124 7 ай бұрын
crazy im 5th
@jamesandalexandramonroy7736
@jamesandalexandramonroy7736 7 ай бұрын
This whole video is cap… I knew this dude dragged his videos
@nixdapogs
@nixdapogs 7 ай бұрын
Danny Ainge ruined his career.
@Johncena12317
@Johncena12317 7 ай бұрын
Terrible video title
@WikkiGaming
@WikkiGaming 7 ай бұрын
Danny Ainge and the Celtics deserve more flack. They ruined his entire career, and completely fucked over the Cavaliers. Dirty dirty dirty.
@hansmeier7508
@hansmeier7508 7 ай бұрын
freeking USA! A life is worth nothing....of course it is business and from gm perspective you have to trade IT and not give him a max but come on you lie to him, he gives everything for the franchise he loses his sister just give him for one year 30 mio....no super max just a compensation. sure we all say its al about winning and bla bla bla but sometimes it is not just about winning
@HyperTeve
@HyperTeve 7 ай бұрын
Jimmer was a better player
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