Milan 2023 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS | Japan v China | Men's Foil Fencing Team | 中国 v 日本 フェンシング 花剑击剑

Gold Medal bout of the 2023 Milan World Championships Men's Foil Team between Japan and China.
On the Left - Japan
Since Russia has been banned from competing, Japan has been making the semifinals of events more often - most often losing both bouts to come forth. Since the end of the previous season, 2022 Junior World Champion and 2022 Senior Belgrade Grand Prix Bronze Medalist, IIMURA Kazuki has replaced SAITO Toshiya for most team events. SUZUMURA Kenta is also now in the top 4 again.
After the 2021 Tokyo Olympics, French foil legend (including defeating Japan and winning Gold at the 2021 Tokyo Olympics) Erwan LE PECHOUX has become the Head Coach of the Men's Foil Programme for Team Japan. He coached IIMURA to win the Junior World Championships and Bronze at the 2022 Belgrade Grand Prix, and Kyosuke MATSUYAMA to win his first World Cup earlier this season in Bonn. Perhaps most impressively, Japan won its first Gold in the Men's Foil category earlier this season at the 2023 Cairo World Cup.
At Milan 2023, MATSUYAMA won a Bronze in the Men's Foil Individual Event. Japan made the Finals by defeating Korea in the Quarterfinals, and Hong Kong in the Semifinals.
On the Right - China
China had a strong Men's Foil Team - back in 2016. In fact, China won the Men's Foil Team event at both the Paris 2010 and Catania 2011 World Championships, then won Silver at the 2014 Kazan World Championships. However, since 2016, LEI Sheng, MA Jianfei, and CHEN Haiwei all retired, China has struggled to perform to the same standard ever since.
In 2019, CHEN Haiwei returned, but was unable to fence at the same level as he did back in 2016. However, recently the team has been doing better. In 2018, HUANG Menkai won the Individual Asian Games (then never did anything again). This year, MO Ziwei won Individual Gold at the Asian Championships. In terms of team performances, China upset France at the 2022 CIP World Cup, but achieved little other performances. In fact, this might be the first medal that China won as a team on the world stage since 2016.
At Milan 2023, China defeated France in the Quarterfinals, and USA in the Semifinals.
Team JAPAN
SHIKINE Takahiro 敷根 崇裕
MATSUYAMA Kyosuke 松山 恭助
IIMURA Kazuki 太田 雄貴 2.0
SUZUMURA Kenta 鈴村健太 (R)
Team CHINA
XU Jie
CHEN Haiwei
MO Ziwei
WU Bin (R)
0:00 Introduction
2:26 (1/9) SHIKINE v MO
6:26 (2/9) IIMURA v CHEN
15:04 (3/9) MATSUYAMA v XU
22:38 (4/9) IIMURA v WU
30:11 (5/9) SHIKINE v XU
36:07 (5/9) MATSUYAMA v CHEN
40:30 (7/9) IIMURA v XU
46:44 (8/9) MATSUYAMA v MO
1:00:09 (9/9) SHIKINE v CHEN

[@DonovanDeans]

Amazing Match. Karim Bashir is so bad at commentating for fencing, please replace him. It's one thing that he has no clue what's going on during Sabre, but Foil? Isn't this his weapon? Jesus. The best commentators they've ever had have all actually fenced at a world level...I remember Richard Kruse (GBR) commentated I think in Kazan WCH and was 100x better and witty. 90% of the time he jumps the gun on the referee's call he is dead wrong. 31:24 "And he's given this on attack on preparation for Japan" it's line you idiot. He literally even said line. Shikine literally stuck his arm out for two solid tempos and Xu ran into it. Also, why every world championships for the last 10 years do they feel the need to educate the viewer on the basic rules of fencing, every, single, time, every, single, match (particularly Foil/Sabre). I get it, trying to increase viewership, newbies only watch Olympics/World Champ finals, but no other sport does this at this level, not even Tennis. It's so amateur, like we're begging people to care. Nobody must want this job. Pay them a real wage and get real commentators, FIE.

[@Dancingtuna]

I understand your pain completely 🫡

[@Wisely_Liao]

Japanese foil fencers learned from the disappointment of the last Olympics Game in Tokyo, made rapid progress after the hard training. 🎉

[@joshsima97]

this commentator can't get iimura's name correct wtf

[@wargames2195]

So awesome.

[@goated2530]

Disappointed to see the US not make the podium, but congratulations to Japan on a well deserved win!! Definitely one of the most exciting stories in fencing

[@andrewli6606]

Given how Meinhardt was fencing that day, US didn’t deserve the podium.

[@kevinTang9000]

​@@andrewli6606 Exactly

[@xDinomanx]

To be fair, Hong Kong also took out the Italians in the 8 as well. It was a disappointing day for a few of the big name and Hong Kong were so good.

[@kevinTang9000]

It is a huge failure for Italian team that day as they never imagine be defeated in T8. Very embarrassing for an Italian team fencing in Italy.

[@joshsima97]

iimura absolutely carrying

[@Alexandre-cc5rr]

Beautiful Nippon.Japan!

[@boagprod.1372]

I am a firm believer in an Asian Foil dominance in the coming future, especially in teams, these fencers hailing from Asia are really going to be a threat in Paris. In the case of China, they seem to be a strong team, I haven’t seem much of them but I do believe they are a threat to the US, and European Teams. On the other hand, HKG is definitely in a good place, Choi and Cheung Ka Long are both in very good spots currently, and Japan.. Well results speak for themselves I guess.

[@christianalbertjahns2577]

Finally men's team foil gets to experience certified epee moment

[@SimonCaponVlogs]

Dear Mr Tuna. If you ever find a way to upload these without the horrific drivel that the FIE call “commentary” you’ll have the entire fencing world in your debt. Honestly just dub the fitness gram pacer test over it. Provides less pain.

[@Dancingtuna]

Thank you! In the rare occasions where there is a commentary and non-commentary stream, I will always try to post the non-commentary stream 🫡

[@SimonCaponVlogs]

@@Dancingtuna if you ever want alternate commentary, I can drag Jesse Morris out of retirement

[@alexthegreat38]

Put me in coach I could do it

[@SimonCaponVlogs]

@@alexthegreat38 I would take brain damaged monkeys with vuvuzelas pointed directly at my eardrums before more of that commentary

[@Dancingtuna]

@@SimonCaponVlogs do it

[@MatteoCignatta-fj8es]

It was nice to see her live as much as it was bad to see Italy go out like that with hong kong. Greetings from Milan

[@salvatoresorrentino6279]

bin Wu is certainly interesting

[@tatzdesigns9959]

Just imagine what he could do with correct technique 😂😮

[@wing96291223]

中國隊，小了主動進攻，上前時候中門大開，輸了活該😮😢😢

[@njasow5234]

TLDR: Matsuyama is passive on defense, attackers should push him to the end line. Against Matsuyama, it seems that the best approach to fencing Him is to gain the attack and slowly push him towards the end line. Other than some counter attacks with no real set up, which should be manageable to avoid when pushing forward slowly by either being ready to directly land or ready to quickly step back and regain the attack, Matsuyama is rather passive on defense and seems easily pushed to the back line (at least in this video) where vulnerability of losing a touch is very high. It is noticeable that most attacks that fail against Matsuyama come because the attackers move too fast, which leaves them rather open to a prepared and low sitting defender. A good visualization of an attack like this would be Garozzo's famous slow push attack. During the olympics, Garozzo was easily dominating the match going up 14-8 against Matsuyama by simply being in control on the attack and pushing matsuyama to the back. The reason matsuyama was able to comeback and tie up (ultimately losing) the match 14-14 was because Matsuyama became much more agressive (pushes forward a lot more) on attack as well as Garozzo questionably giving up on many attacks.

[@user-cj9tn7mj6i]

日本ってフェンシングつえーんだ

[@sakaematsumoto7057]

🌸剣道🌸が基本にあるからでしょうか?　🤔

[@sathviksm5267]

26th Japanese point was quite controversial

[@user0-7-9]

What do u mean

[@kiss4idy]

Too lucky for Japan, HK has remove the strongest team Italy.

[@Dancingtuna]

Too lucky? Give Japan some respect, they beat Italy at the 2021 Tokyo Olympic Games, 2022 Tokyo World Cup, and 2023 Cairo World Cup They currently have good odds when going into a bout with Italy

[@DonovanDeans]

Clearly you're wrong. If they were the strongest team they wouldn't have lost. Italy has been getting smacked by the USA since at least 2016, 80% of the time. Cheung Ka-Long is the Olympic Champion...who beat the prior Olympic Champion Garozzo from Italy, handily, to win. Have some respect and humility, even if you are Italian. Respecting your opponents and their success is how you learn and grow, not blind nationalism.

[@user-ey6le1ws5d]

Luck is also part of strength.

[@user0-7-9]

@@Dancingtuna true, Japan also came from like a 5 point deficit once and they still beat Italy, like mostly skill

[@christianalbertjahns2577]

​@@DonovanDeansnot Italian but some facts need to be said. The current Italian team is still very very strong. Heck, they are even stronger since they had broken out of US team chokehold that had happen since at least 2018. Also they are the favorite for finals alongside US team, being the finalist of the last world championships. The Japanese team is strong, they might be lucky but nevertheless still strong. The Chinese team fenced like raging fire, defeating French and US team along the way. Both certainly deserved their place in the podium

[@user-lv6sr7jl1g]

中國隊回家閉門思過！

[@lane8534]

😇 "promo sm"